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lib dem leader ed davey and snp leaderjohn swinney will take part, with just two weeks to go until election day. it comes as the tories�* director of campaigning and his wife, a conservative candidate, are being looked into by the gambling commission over an alleged bet relating to the timing of the general election. and i'm martine croxall in london. our other main story this hour... ..denmark equalise against england. it's one—one at the euros in frankfurt, with both teams looking to book a place in the last 16. ina minute, in a minute, we'll talk further about the question time leaders�* debate. the bbc has learned that the conservative party's director
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of campaigning is being looked into by the gambling commission over an alleged bet on the timing of the general election. tony lee, and his wife laura saunders — who is the party's candidate in bristol north west — are both being looked into. this morning it emerged that mr lee has taken a leave of absence from his job, and left the campaign yesterday. our political correspondent helen catt has the latest. we will have a general election on the 4th ofjuly. july elections are a rarity. now, the gambling commission is looking into some of the bets that were placed on one being called. the use of confidential information in order to gain an unfair advantage when betting may be a criminal offence. we now know that among those being looked into are tony lee, who's the conservative party's director of campaigning, and his wife, laura saunders, who's a candidate. mr lee took a leave of absence from his job yesterday. both mrs saunders and mr lee have been approached for comment, but haven't replied. this will be a two—bedroom apartment? correct, yes.
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on a visit earlier, the housing secretary, michael gove, admitted it didn't look good. it's quite properly being investigated now. how does it look? well, as i say, you and others looking at this will, i'm sure, be doing much more thanjust raising an eyebrow. but it's important for me and for all the candidates out there that while we acknowledge that this is not great, that we concentrate on the real issues in this campaign. keir, nice to see you. labour says it's not good enough, and wants action taken. this candidate should be suspended, and it's very telling that rishi sunak has not already done that. if it was one of my candidates, they'd be gone and their feet would not have touched the floor. there's a wider point here that you touch on, which is we've now had 14 years of chaos, of division, of politics, being about self—entitlement, and politics needs to be about service — about public service.
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the liberal democrats also want to see a firm hand. we think there should be a cabinet office inquiry. i i think the gambling commission will rightly look at this, - and i hope they come down heavy | on those people who look like — i i haven't seen the details — - but they look like they've acted illegally and immorally. earlier this month, craig williams, another candidate, and formerly the prime minister's parliamentary aide, admitted he'd placed a bet on the election date and apologised. did you have any inside information when you made the bet? i clearly made a huge error ofjudgment. he's being looked into, too. yesterday, one of rishi sunak�*s police close protection officers was arrested over alleged bets on the election date. a spokesman for the conservative party said the gambling commission had contacted it about a small number of individuals. as more details emerge, the pressure on rishi sunak to take action is only likely to grow. helen catt, bbc news, westminster. joining me is our political correspondent alex forsyth.
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hi, alex. we have a development. we've actually heard in the last few minutes a statement from laura saunders. this is a statement that she is released to the press association. it comes from her solicitors. "as the conservative party has stated, investigations are ongoing. ms. saunders will cooperate with the gambling commission has nothing further to add. it's inappropriate to conduct any investigation via the media and doing so risks jeopardising the work of the gambling commission and the integrity of the investigation. the publication of the story and the bbc is premature and clear of infringement of her privacy rights. she's considering legal accent against the bbc. —— action." she's considering legal accent against the bbc. -- action." we're a coule of against the bbc. -- action." we're a coume of hours _ against the bbc. -- action." we're a couple of hours away. _ against the bbc. -- action." we're a couple of hours away. we'll - against the bbc. -- action." we're a
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couple of hours away. we'll be - couple of hours away. we'll be anticipating that the other three may reference this?— anticipating that the other three may reference this? they've already talked about — may reference this? they've already talked about it _ may reference this? they've already talked about it today, _ may reference this? they've already talked about it today, but _ may reference this? they've already talked about it today, but what - may reference this? they've already talked about it today, but what we l talked about it today, but what we haven't done is here from the prime minister himself. the question will be down to the audience, but i suspect this will come up in one form or another. it will be the first time we have heard directly from the prime minister on this. you also host any — from the prime minister on this. you also host any questions and know more about almost anyone about how politicians interact with audiences. what have you learned doing that programme and what is it told you about the difference between you was about the difference between you was a politician and a member of the public? i a politician and a member of the ublic? ~ , , public? i think they believe differently _ public? i think they believe differently be _ public? i think they believe differently be they - public? i think they believe differently be they have - public? i think they believe | differently be they have the public? i think they believe - differently be they have the live audience with them —— when you please a politician —— quiz. i know audiences are really savvy and they hate anything non—authentic. they
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want the politicians to feel like they're answering them straightforwardly in honestly. i think the savvy politicians respond in a different way and try to be a little bit more straightforward and honest. we little bit more straightforward and honest. ~ , , ., ~ ., little bit more straightforward and honest. ~ , , .w ., ., honest. we were speaking to an academic here _ honest. we were speaking to an academic here at _ honest. we were speaking to an academic here at the _ honest. we were speaking to an academic here at the university| honest. we were speaking to an - academic here at the university who studies how these tv debates goes, and he says politicians to quite a degree are more likely to direct the answer from a degree are more likely to direct the answerfrom a member of degree are more likely to direct the answer from a member of the answerfrom a member of the public than from a journalist like me or you. does that ring true? absolutely, because i think the public about no patients with dodge questions. audiences tend to be quite close and there's going to be a lot of them. the politicians will sense of the public are not buying what they say. i think the challenge is going to be adapting their messages because they're going to want to land their messages and get across the party lines because they have campaign messages. everyone they want to land. they want to do
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that in a way that they are addressing the concerns and the issue that the audience raises and they are answering on if they can't, i'm sure the audience will give them a pretty short shrift. {iii i'm sure the audience will give them a pretty short shrift.— a pretty short shrift. of course, in the middle _ a pretty short shrift. of course, in the middle of _ a pretty short shrift. of course, in the middle of this _ a pretty short shrift. of course, in the middle of this question - a pretty short shrift. of course, in the middle of this question time | the middle of this question time leaders' special is the host fiona bruce. you host a programme where politicians interact every week. how do you judge when to intervene and let the audience play out? i do you judge when to intervene and let the audience play out?— let the audience play out? i would sa it's let the audience play out? i would say it's the _ let the audience play out? i would say it's the hardest _ let the audience play out? i would say it's the hardest judgment - let the audience play out? i would say it's the hardest judgment you | say it's the hardestjudgment you have to make. you want to be they are allowing the audience to put the questions to the and get an answer, and that audience person is often pretty good at doing that. but the other thing is you are there with the opportunity for scrutinising the answers of the politicians and trying not to let them get away with saying things are claiming things without that kind of adequate level of scrutiny. if they really hard
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balancing act. you also want to give them adequate space to give their arguments. it's only right the people watching at home get to hear what the politicians have to say about stuff. it's kind of a three wayjuggling act and it's a really difficult balancing one. i know that fiona is brilliant at it and i'm sure she will have it nailed. thank ou ve sure she will have it nailed. thank you very much _ sure she will have it nailed. thank you very much indeed. _ sure she will have it nailed. thank you very much indeed. you - sure she will have it nailed. thank you very much indeed. you can i sure she will have it nailed. thank. you very much indeed. you can listen to any addition on the bbc news out. i'm in the spin room and if i were to go about 150 metres, we'll get to the venue where the question time leaders' special is taking place. a few minutes ago, i went to have a look. this is where the bbc question time leaders' special will take place at the university of york. you can see where the audience will be sitting. over 116 people will be putting people to ed davey, then don sweeney, and sir keir starmer he and
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then the prime minister —— career starmer. the host fiona bruce will stand just here. let's speak to jonathan the host fiona bruce will stand just here. let's speak tojonathan munro, integrally involved. i think the audience have a number of questions about how this works. how do you settle on the fact that it's four l? we have a pretty sophisticated way of looking at which party deserves more scrutiny. because the polls have been moving a little bit largely edging up and down on other parties, we are having three of these programmes. this is the big two hour one, and we will have both reform and green party. viewers and wales will also be able to see a
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version of plaid cymru leaders. who is answering the questions and how are you organising and who is asking? how are you organising and who is askin: ? ., . ., how are you organising and who is askin. ? ., . ., ~' , , ., asking? the audience are keys to makin: it asking? the audience are keys to making it work. _ asking? the audience are keys to making it work. this _ asking? the audience are keys to making it work. this is _ asking? the audience are keys to making it work. this is the - asking? the audience are keys to| making it work. this is the format where the question is able to get the stock —— their teeth stuck. i don't set them. the stock -- their teeth stuck. i don't set them.— the stock -- their teeth stuck. i don't set them. ., ., i. ., ~ , don't set them. how do you make sure the makeup — don't set them. how do you make sure the makeup of— don't set them. how do you make sure the makeup of the _ don't set them. how do you make sure the makeup of the audience _ don't set them. how do you make sure the makeup of the audience is - don't set them. how do you make sure the makeup of the audience is a - the makeup of the audience is a fair representation and make sure the questions they ask are also a fair representation of the things people are most concerned about. what representation of the things people are most concerned about. what we do every single — are most concerned about. what we do every single week _ are most concerned about. what we do every single week is _ are most concerned about. what we do every single week is come _ are most concerned about. what we do every single week is come up - are most concerned about. what we do every single week is come up with - are most concerned about. what we do every single week is come up with an l every single week is come up with an audience that reflects the electoral map of great britain. people in the audience will support each of these parties. every leader noticed somewhere in the audience that there are some people who will support the policies and a lot of people who
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won't. in the case of this programme, we've brought some of the audience and from scotland from snp supporters who don't reside around york. on the questions, they give us the questions in advance and e—mail them in. they put them on postcards when they arrive. we choose the ones that resonate most with the big issues, but also choose ones that are pertinent to the individual leaders. this is a debate between people on stage because they know uptight mines are going to be against each other. this goes to the heart of what they're like as a leader. , ., �* , ., , ., leader. they won't be on stage together. _ leader. they won't be on stage together, each _ leader. they won't be on stage together, each will— leader. they won't be on stage together, each will get - leader. they won't be on stage together, each will get half- leader. they won't be on stage together, each will get half an | together, each will get half an hour. will they be waiting together in a room backstage, or do they come in a room backstage, or do they come in and leave separately? the? in a room backstage, or do they come in and leave separately?— in and leave separately? they make their own arrangements. _ in and leave separately? they make their own arrangements. we've - their own arrangements. we've already had a few of them looking at the set today. just making themselves comfortable with the staging and the lighting because this is a really big moment. this format is the format where the magic money tree came on theresa may's...
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that was here? money tree came on theresa may's. .. that was here?— that was here? that was actually here. that was here? that was actually here- that _ that was here? that was actually here. that was _ that was here? that was actually here. that was a _ that was here? that was actually here. that was a news-making . that was here? that was actually| here. that was a news-making of that was here? that was actually i here. that was a news-making of it here. that was a news—making of it into a 17. she lost the majority. it's also the format word 20 blair was visibly shocked where people are saying they couldn't get an appointment and ed miliband stumbled up appointment and ed miliband stumbled up the stage. —— off the stage. to the euros now — where england are playing denmark in frankfurt. let's speak to our correspondentjoe inwood. he's with fans watching the game in south london. it sounds like half came in the nick of time. it did. england looked rough at first, but were starting to flag —— solid at first
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acquit goalfrom harry acquit goal from harry kane, acquit goalfrom harry kane, and that the danes equalise about 30 minutes in. we havejude bellingham on the attacks, so i need to keep half an ear on this, but there has been a more muted atmosphere since the danish goal went in. in the last five minutes or so, trent alexander—arnold has been taken off to be replaced by gallagher. he has been seen as something as a sort of experiment. it might give us the indentation that may be gareth southgate think that hasn't work. sorry to interrupt your chips. what's your name and what do you think? ., , ., , ., think? harvey. loving it. great goal from harry — think? harvey. loving it. great goal from harry kane. _ think? harvey. loving it. great goal from harry kane. shame _ think? harvey. loving it. great goal from harry kane. shame about - think? harvey. loving it. great goal from harry kane. shame about the | from harry kane. shame about the other goal that came from the danish, but that's the way it is. what's your name?—
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danish, but that's the way it is. i what's your name?- what danish, but that's the way it is. - what's your name?- what do you what's your name? tommy. what do you make of the performance? _ what's your name? tommy. what do you make of the performance? i _ what's your name? tommy. what do you make of the performance? i think - make of the performance? i think it's areat. make of the performance? i think it's great- i _ make of the performance? i think it's great. i think— make of the performance? i think it's great. i think they're - it's great. i think they're struggling, it's a young team. three boys from _ struggling, it's a young team. three boys from crystal palace and the england — boys from crystal palace and the england squad. boys from crystal palace and the england squad-— england squad. cheering encland england squad. cheering england just _ england squad. cheering england just hit _ england squad. cheering england just hit the - england squad. cheering england just hit the post! | england squad. cheering - englandjust hit the post! every england just hit the post! every time you come to me, something interesting happens! do this more often! i think phil soden hit the post. —— foden. there we have it. it is all excitement, but is still 1—1. i should just leave it with you, joe, because things move on. i've been reading a lot of comments on the bbc sports website. a lot of them suggest it's the midfield that needs sorting, and i say this is if i know what i'm talking about. that is exactly what _ i know what i'm talking about. trust is exactly what happened. i mentioned that
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alexander arnold came off and connor gallagher came on. i think that probably was the feeling. the danes were always messing england. they seemed to get the ball constantly. i'm just speculating here, but maybe the feeling is the trent experiment hasn't worked quite as well in this game as it did against serbia. i didn't know you knew so much about football, mr inwood. i'm most impressed. thank you very much. let's go back to york, where ros atkins has been taking a look around the set of the leaders' special, which starts at eight o'clock tonight. yes, iam yes, i am in the spin room, which will teacher
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—— feature four and a half hours. let's talk about this with dr and sounders here at the university of york. —— anna sanders. yes you and your students, york. —— anna sanders. yes you and yourstudents, it york. —— anna sanders. yes you and your students, it must be quite a big moment. it’s your students, it must be quite a big moment-— big moment. it's been quite an excitin: big moment. it's been quite an exciting election _ big moment. it's been quite an exciting election and _ big moment. it's been quite an exciting election and quite - big moment. it's been quite an exciting election and quite a i exciting election and quite a different one.— exciting election and quite a different one. �* �* , .., different one. and it's come right here. it's fantastic _ different one. and it's come right here. it's fantastic to _ different one. and it's come right here. it's fantastic to have - different one. and it's come right here. it's fantastic to have it - here. it's fantastic to have it here. it's fantastic to have it here- what _ here. it's fantastic to have it here. what do _ here. it's fantastic to have it here. what do you _ here. it's fantastic to have it here. what do you think - here. it's fantastic to have it here. what do you think you j here. it's fantastic to have it - here. what do you think you and your students will — here. what do you think you and your students will look _ here. what do you think you and your students will look out _ here. what do you think you and your students will look out for _ here. what do you think you and your students will look out for in _ students will look out for in the exchanges?— students will look out for in the exchanaes? �* , ., ., ~' exchanges? one thing i'll be looking out for today — exchanges? one thing i'll be looking out for today is _ exchanges? one thing i'll be looking out for today is her _ exchanges? one thing i'll be looking out for today is her conservative - out for today is her conservative party strategy. conservatives are facing prospect of historic defeat currently. it will be interesting to see how they mitigate this. the conservatives have been trailing behind in the polls by around 20 points behind labour, so they need attention grabbing policies that can change the conversation and change
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attention away to what they will do an office. ~ , ., attention away to what they will do an office. ~ i. , , ., an office. when you study, do you rovide an office. when you study, do you provide some _ an office. when you study, do you provide some of— an office. when you study, do you provide some of the _ an office. when you study, do you provide some of the best - provide some of the best opportunities for these leaders to talk to the country as a whole was yellow tv debates can give us a really important insight into the sorts of policies that— sorts of policies that parties are led . in: sorts of policies that parties are pledging and — sorts of policies that parties are pledging and they _ sorts of policies that parties are pledging and they can _ sorts of policies that parties are pledging and they can also - sorts of policies that parties are pledging and they can also give| sorts of policies that parties are i pledging and they can also give us an insight into how voters can evaluate leaders. however, there is limited evidence to show that tv debates have an impact and more limited evidence to show that campaigns can make a difference to voting. that's not to say that all campaigns don't matter, as we saw in 2017. more often than not, the pulls hinge. 2017. more often than not, the pulls hinue. 2017. more often than not, the pulls hinie, ., 2017. more often than not, the pulls hinue. ., ., . ~ 2017. more often than not, the pulls hinue. ., ., ., ., hinge. looking on track to have a ma'ori , hinge. looking on track to have a majority. but _ hinge. looking on track to have a majority. but by _ hinge. looking on track to have a majority, but by the _ hinge. looking on track to have a majority, but by the election, - majority, but by the election, hadn't gotten one. she remained as prime minister. in terms of public
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interactions, what would they reveal that any other journalist interactions, what would they reveal that any otherjournalist might not reveal? it’s that any other “ournalist might not reveal? �* , . , that any other “ournalist might not reveal? �*, ., , ., ., reveal? it's really important that politicians can _ reveal? it's really important that politicians can show that - reveal? it's really important that politicians can show that they . reveal? it's really important that| politicians can show that they can engage with voters. often, we think about the gas politicians make, it's when they disconnect from voters. one thing we can look at today is how they interact with voters, whether they show compassion or truly listen. d0 whether they show compassion or truly listen-— truly listen. do you think they're in manages _ truly listen. do you think they're in manages to — truly listen. do you think they're in manages to going _ truly listen. do you think they're in manages to going anyplace i truly listen. do you think they're | in manages to going anyplace we truly listen. do you think they're - in manages to going anyplace we feel that we have to see! in your studying of campaigns, do they tend to be reasonably settled by this point or can there be big shifts? ., ' , ., ., , ., shifts? celeron 1596 of voters are undecided and _ shifts? celeron 1596 of voters are undecided and have _ shifts? celeron 1596 of voters are undecided and have yet - shifts? celeron 1596 of voters are undecided and have yet to - shifts? celeron 1596 of voters are undecided and have yet to make| shifts? celeron 1596 of voters are - undecided and have yet to make their minds. the polls so far have remained remarkably stable. we've seen a slight decline in conservative support and labour support and slight uptick in reborn
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about the —— reform uptick. that’s about the -- reform uptick. that's dr anna sanders. _ about the -- reform uptick. that's dr anna sanders. let's _ bring in three people who can bring us insight.. sean kemp, former liberal democrat special adviser during the coalition government. kirsty buchanan is former conservative adviser and by stuart nicolson, former spokesperson for the former scottish first minister, and snp leader, nicola sturgeon. sean, keirsey and stewart, welcome. keirsey, let me start with you. —— kirsty. what might a leader be doing in a moment like this?! kirsty. what might a leader be doing in a moment like this?— in a moment like this? i think the 'll in a moment like this? i think they'll be _ in a moment like this? i think they'll be prepping _ in a moment like this? i think they'll be prepping and - in a moment like this? i think. they'll be prepping and making in a moment like this? i think- they'll be prepping and making sure they'll be prepping and making sure they have their key messages right, making sure they got their attack lines right, and making sure they
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have a simple but important point. i think for someone like rishi sunak, the message is very simple — hammer home between now and in the election day about labour's right of taxes, etc. what i think you should work on a little bit more is listening to the voters. this is a very different debate. interaction with the audience and working on that connection to them, working with, sympathising and empathising with their plight rather than just going straight for the lines to take and straight for the lines to take and straight for the lines to take and straight for attack. i think he needs to sit back a little bit more, sympathise a little bit more in a cost of living crisis and not go straight for that line to take around the £2000 labour tax rise ad
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nausea, which we will hear tonight. sean and stuart, let's talk about the snp and the lib dems. sean, sir ed davey has used a range of campaigns stunts to get attention. you think there's a risk that that is in some way damaging the seriousness of the message from the lib dems? i seriousness of the message from the lib dems? ~ ., ., lib dems? i think of it carried on like that, where _ lib dems? i think of it carried on like that, where pretty _ lib dems? i think of it carried on like that, where pretty much - lib dems? i think of it carried on like that, where pretty much all| like that, where pretty much all voters _ like that, where pretty much all voters is — like that, where pretty much all voters is all was ed falling off a paddleboard, i think actual lib dems have been_ paddleboard, i think actual lib dems have been quite clear that they did a lot of— have been quite clear that they did a lot of that stuff at the start. that _ a lot of that stuff at the start. that has — a lot of that stuff at the start. that has continued, but they have worked _ that has continued, but they have worked that are more personable about _ worked that are more personable about ed~ — worked that are more personable about ed. managing to strike that balance — about ed. managing to strike that balance. the reason why they do that is because _ balance. the reason why they do that is because they need to find some way to— is because they need to find some way to get— is because they need to find some way to get noticed and be cut through _ way to get noticed and be cut through. i think it is relieved that
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today— through. i think it is relieved that today is— through. i think it is relieved that today is nothing like taking a zip wire to — today is nothing like taking a zip wire to get on tv. | today is nothing like taking a zip wire to get on tv.— wire to get on tv. i don't think that's planned _ wire to get on tv. i don't think that's planned for _ wire to get on tv. i don't think that's planned for the - wire to get on tv. i don't think| that's planned for the question wire to get on tv. i don't think- that's planned for the question time leaders' special! i can confirm that much. stuart, what do you think johns when he should do on behalf of the snp? i johns when he should do on behalf of the snp? “ johns when he should do on behalf of the snp? ~ ., .., , . the snp? i think what we can expect from john swinney _ the snp? i think what we can expect from john swinney is _ the snp? i think what we can expect from john swinney is to _ the snp? i think what we can expect i from john swinney is to hammer home a couple _ from john swinney is to hammer home a couple of— from john swinney is to hammer home a couple of key— from john swinney is to hammer home a couple of key messages. _ from john swinney is to hammer home a couple of key messages. they- a couple of key messages. they essentially— a couple of key messages. they essentially boiled _ a couple of key messages. they essentially boiled down - a couple of key messages. they essentially boiled down to - essentially boiled down to highlighting _ essentially boiled down to highlighting the _ essentially boiled down to highlighting the dangers. essentially boiled down to| highlighting the dangers of austerity, _ highlighting the dangers of austerity, regardless- highlighting the dangers of austerity, regardless of. highlighting the dangers of. austerity, regardless of who highlighting the dangers of- austerity, regardless of who wins the electioh _ austerity, regardless of who wins the election. it's _ austerity, regardless of who wins the election. it's the _ austerity, regardless of who wins the election. it's the point - austerity, regardless of who wins the election. it's the point they. the election. it's the point they have _ the election. it's the point they have been— the election. it's the point they have been making _ the election. it's the point they have been making consistentlyj the election. it's the point they. have been making consistently in the election. it's the point they- have been making consistently in the campaign, _ have been making consistently in the campaign, which— have been making consistently in the campaign, which is _ have been making consistently in the campaign, which is to— have been making consistently in the campaign, which is to say— have been making consistently in the campaign, which is to say that, - campaign, which is to say that, regardless _ campaign, which is to say that, regardless of _ campaign, which is to say that, regardless of who _ campaign, which is to say that, regardless of who wins, - campaign, which is to say that, regardless of who wins, further campaign, which is to say that, i regardless of who wins, further '5 whingeing — regardless of who wins, further '5 whingeing public— regardless of who wins, further '5 whingeing public service - regardless of who wins, further '5 whingeing public service cuts - regardless of who wins, further '5 whingeing public service cuts arei whingeing public service cuts are coming — whingeing public service cuts are coming so. _ whingeing public service cuts are coming so. he— whingeing public service cuts are coming. so, he wants _ whingeing public service cuts are coming. so, he wants to- whingeing public service cuts are coming. so, he wants to get- whingeing public service cuts are| coming. so, he wants to get that message — coming. so, he wants to get that message across. _ coming. so, he wants to get that message across. the _ coming. so, he wants to get that message across. the other- coming. so, he wants to get that message across. the other thing| coming. so, he wants to get that i message across. the other thing he will probably— message across. the other thing he will probably try _ message across. the other thing he will probably try to _ message across. the other thing he will probably try to emphasise - message across. the other thing he will probably try to emphasise at. will probably try to emphasise at some _ will probably try to emphasise at some point— will probably try to emphasise at some point as _ will probably try to emphasise at some point as the _ will probably try to emphasise at some point as the cost _ will probably try to emphasise at some point as the cost of - will probably try to emphasise atj some point as the cost of brexit, because — some point as the cost of brexit, because basically, _ some point as the cost of brexit, because basically, i—
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some point as the cost of brexit, because basically, i think- some point as the cost of brexit, because basically, i think the - some point as the cost of brexit,| because basically, i think the snp are the _ because basically, i think the snp are the only— because basically, i think the snp are the only mainstream - because basically, i think the snp are the only mainstream party - because basically, i think the snp . are the only mainstream party really talking _ are the only mainstream party really talking about — are the only mainstream party really talking about brexit _ are the only mainstream party really talking about brexit and _ are the only mainstream party really talking about brexit and its - are the only mainstream party really talking about brexit and its impact. i talking about brexit and its impact. there _ talking about brexit and its impact. there is— talking about brexit and its impact. there is a _ talking about brexit and its impact. there is a kind _ talking about brexit and its impact. there is a kind of... _ talking about brexit and its impact. there is a kind of... i— talking about brexit and its impact. there is a kind of... i think- talking about brexit and its impact. there is a kind of... i thinkjohn- there is a kind of... i thinkjohn swinney— there is a kind of... i thinkjohn swinney would _ there is a kind of... ithinkjohn swinney would say— there is a kind of... i thinkjohn swinney would say silence - there is a kind of... i thinkjohn swinney would say silence of i there is a kind of... i thinkjohnl swinney would say silence of the main _ swinney would say silence of the main parties _ swinney would say silence of the main parties on _ swinney would say silence of the main parties on brexit. - swinney would say silence of the main parties on brexit. it's - main parties on brexit. it's astonishing _ main parties on brexit. it's astonishing when- main parties on brexit. it's astonishing when you - main parties on brexit. it'sj astonishing when you think main parties on brexit. it's - astonishing when you think about main parties on brexit. it's _ astonishing when you think about how the dominant— astonishing when you think about how the dominant of— astonishing when you think about how the dominant of an issue _ astonishing when you think about how the dominant of an issue it _ astonishing when you think about how the dominant of an issue it was - astonishing when you think about how the dominant of an issue it was and l the dominant of an issue it was and how relevant — the dominant of an issue it was and how relevant it _ the dominant of an issue it was and how relevant it still _ the dominant of an issue it was and how relevant it still is _ the dominant of an issue it was and how relevant it still is in _ the dominant of an issue it was and how relevant it still is in terms - the dominant of an issue it was and how relevant it still is in terms of i how relevant it still is in terms of the ongoing — how relevant it still is in terms of the ongoing impact. _ how relevant it still is in terms of the ongoing impact. i— how relevant it still is in terms of the ongoing impact. i think- how relevant it still is in terms of the ongoing impact. i think these are the _ the ongoing impact. ! think these are the issues— the ongoing impact. i think these are the issues that _ the ongoing impact. ! think these are the issues that he will- the ongoing impact. i think these are the issues that he will want i the ongoing impact. i think thesel are the issues that he will want to hammer— are the issues that he will want to hammer home _ are the issues that he will want to hammer home.— are the issues that he will want to hammer home. let's ask kirsty. the 2019 election, — hammer home. let's ask kirsty. the 2019 election, the _ hammer home. let's ask kirsty. the 2019 election, the message - hammer home. let's ask kirsty. the 2019 election, the message was - hammer home. let's ask kirsty. the 2019 election, the message was get| 2019 election, the message was get brexit done. i've been surprised at how little or her much, i should say, rishi sunak has chosen to talk about it? ., ., ., , say, rishi sunak has chosen to talk aboutit? ., ., ., , ., ,�* about it? no, not really. it doesn't benefit either _ about it? no, not really. it doesn't benefit either of _ about it? no, not really. it doesn't benefit either of the _ about it? no, not really. it doesn't benefit either of the main - about it? no, not really. it doesn't benefit either of the main political| benefit either of the main political parties to talk about it. it doesn't benefit labour because it doesn't play well with the red ball vote they desperately need to win back as part of the wide election winning coalition they've built. it doesn't
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benefit the conservatives to talk about it because itjust reminds people about a lot of the internal squabbles that have gone with it. for many people in this country, the sense that brexit hasn't delivered for them, the conservatives haven't delivered from the brexit promise in terms of money for public services or the economic boost that we are all promised. i think there's a kind of conspiracy of silence around that because it benefits the main parties. stuart is absolutely right, there's also a kind of conspiracy of silence that will regardless of which party wins — almost certainly, labour, let's be honest — £18 million worth of spending cuts worth and nobody wants to talk about the impact of that. protected departments like health, but it will fall on things like local government and front—line services and the impact will be felt right across the
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country. impact will be felt right across the count . ,, ., , ., ,, impact will be felt right across the count . ,, ., , ., ., country. shawn kemp, do you agree for all four of— country. shawn kemp, do you agree for all four of the _ country. shawn kemp, do you agree for all four of the leaders _ country. shawn kemp, do you agree for all four of the leaders taking - for all four of the leaders taking part, there are some messages about the state of the economy and what might be coming thatjust aren't politically beneficial to empathise at this point? i politically beneficial to empathise at this point?— at this point? i think is the nical at this point? i think is the cynical true _ at this point? i think is the cynical true that _ at this point? i think is the cynical true that a - at this point? i think is the cynical true that a lot - at this point? i think is the cynical true that a lot of. at this point? i think is the - cynical true that a lot of parties don't _ cynical true that a lot of parties don't want _ cynical true that a lot of parties don't want to discuss. there's hardly— don't want to discuss. there's hardly any— don't want to discuss. there's hardly any money without raising taxes _ hardly any money without raising taxes. that is brazenly honest. in the polls. — taxes. that is brazenly honest. in the polls, people say they want honesty, — the polls, people say they want honesty, but the truth is campaigns tend not— honesty, but the truth is campaigns tend not to — honesty, but the truth is campaigns tend not to do very well. the problem _ tend not to do very well. the problem is it stokes of long—term distrust— problem is it stokes of long—term distrust in— problem is it stokes of long—term distrust in politics overall and problems for labour when they get in power— problems for labour when they get in power if— problems for labour when they get in power if they seem to be saying they will raise _ power if they seem to be saying they will raise taxes or they can't afford — will raise taxes or they can't afford it _ will raise taxes or they can't afford it. that's when you potentially, when you haven't been
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honest. _ potentially, when you haven't been honest, create a problem for yourself _ honest, create a problem for ourself. ~ honest, create a problem for yourself-— honest, create a problem for ourself. ~ , ., yourself. well, we will see what calculations _ yourself. well, we will see what calculations the _ yourself. well, we will see what calculations the four _ yourself. well, we will see what calculations the four party - yourself. well, we will see what l calculations the four party leaders take in the question time leaders' special later. sean kemp, kirsty buchanan and stuart nicholson, thank you. the hubbub is moving through the gears. we have an hour and a half to go before the question time leaders' special begins. sounds quite lively. some breaking news to bring you. the actor donald sunderland has died at the age of 88. dasha sutherland. he has been suffering from a long illness. you may have recently seen him in the hunger games series. he was born in canada in 19 85 in new brunswick —— 1935 and came to attention forfilms like
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brunswick —— 1935 and came to attention for films like clute, ordinary people, but his career spanned more than seven decades. the academy he is of course the father of the actor kiefer sutherland, who broke the sad news on social media. we will return to that story little later, as no doubt there will be many tributes paid. let's take a look at the weather forecast now with ben. hello. this evening marks the summer solstice, and so the night ahead of us is going to be a rather short one in terms of hours of darkness. these are the sunset and sunrise times. sunset there in lerwick after 10.30am, the sun rising in the morning before 3.40am. now, what about the weather over the next few days? any sign of summer? well, actually, yes, it is going to be warm.
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there will be some spells of sunshine, although it won't be all plain sailing — some rain at times in the west of the uk. in fact, on the earliest satellite picture you can see a lot of cloud gathering out in the atlantic. ahead of that, we've had some areas of high cloud in the sky turning today's sunshine quite hazy. but it does mean that many of us will see clear skies overnight, particularly across parts of england and wales. but for northern ireland, for scotland will see more cloud, outbreaks of rain, particularly in the northwest of scotland. temperatures, well, they will hold up, actually, where we have the cloud in the west — 12 degrees for glasgow, 13 for belfast — but a little bit cooler further east where we have the clear skies, but it will be across central and eastern parts where we have the best of the sunshine tomorrow morning. and so many central and eastern parts of england, the eastern side of scotland, too, holding on to a little bit of sunshine. but for western england, for wales, for the western side of scotland and perhaps most especially northern ireland, we will see cloud, we'll see some
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showery rain at times. 17 degrees for plymouth, 18 for belfast and glasgow, but further east, newcastle, hull, london, up to 22 or 23 degrees. now, that frontal system in the west will tend to break apart as we move on into saturday, but it will slide eastwards, the remnants of that front, bringing some clouds, some spots of rain and drizzle, and actually perhaps giving rise to some showers across central and eastern parts of england through saturday afternoon. the same time, cloud and some rain into northern ireland and more some spells of sunshine in between — temperatures for most of us in the high teens or low 20 celsius. now, on sunday, still some spells of sunshine around, but expect quite a lot of cloud, particularly across england and wales, maybe the odd shower. brighter skies and some sunshine for northern ireland and scotland. again, though, here there could be the odd shower, but those temperatures climbing, 18—24 degrees covers it for the majority. it's going to turn a little warmer than that into the start of the new week. we could see highs of 27 or 28 degrees, but there is uncertainty aboutjust how long that warm spell might last.
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hello, and welcome to sportsday — i'm hugh ferris. harry kane makes a record—setting contribution for england, but his goal is cancelled out as england head to the final stages of their euros match with denmark locked at 1—1 serbia are still alive in the tournament after snatching a late draw against slovenia — just hours after threatening to withdraw scotland's situation is similar as the tartan army start to think about the game that will make or break their euros it's a lot to look forward to, it's in our hands going into that hungry game, something to relish. also coming up on sportsday. draper's delight — britain's number one beats the world number two — to march on into the quarter finals at queen's but paris pain: two—time olympic champion katie archibald out
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of this summer's olympics — after a freak garden accident

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