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i'm going to make the same promise to you, which is everything you say will be broadcast in full. i want you to have the chance to make your points. i hope you'll answer the questions that are about topics that people... and you've not had any advanced warning. let's start with the general question. who the green party really is. we're going to come to that very soon. sometimes you'll click the party wants to save the countryside. who are the greens? the -a is a countryside. who are the greens? tue: party is a party countryside. who are the greens? tte: party is a party that wants to think about what really matters in life. for me, surviving a society was more equal where people can assess public services. the big issue that people raise on the doorstep across the
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country is the are in a just is severely overstretched, people can't get access to a doctor or a dentist. we need to tackle the scandal of sewage. we need to rethink how we run society. we need to invest in that transition to a green economy. both in tackling cost of living and addressing the biggest issue of our time. �* , , . addressing the biggest issue of our time. �*, , ., ., �*, time. let's start with. that's what most peeple _ time. let's start with. that's what most people will— time. let's start with. that's what most people will associate - time. let's start with. that's what most people will associate you . time. let's start with. that's what i most people will associate you with. philosophical question — an order i'm game for the planet, do we all have to share a little bit of pain? quite the opposite, because we are settling pain at the moment. we have extortionate train fares in the uk.
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we could be bringing down the cost of people's journeys and making the greener option the cheaper and greener option the cheaper and greener option. international affairs have exposed the fact that we're too reliant, and if we were to produce locally as farmers want to do, say they want to produce it naturally, we are proposing to put the money into that. whether it's about insulating homes... tt’s the money into that. whether it's about insulating homes... it's about tacklin: about insulating homes... it's about tackling the — about insulating homes... it's about tackling the cost _ about insulating homes... it's about tackling the cost of _ about insulating homes... it's about tackling the cost of living _ about insulating homes... it's about tackling the cost of living crisis. - it's about tackling the cost of living crisis. let's turn to one of things it one thing you want to do is screw up
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every petrol and diesel car. how many cars is the? we are looking at how we transition to a green economy. it would clearly be tens of millions. my about 13 million cars. if you'vejust spent millions. my about 13 million cars. if you've just spent about 15,000 on a new car and you might feel that you have to because of where you live, that's it. the greens are going to take your car away. that's not the cut message at all. in the meantime, the popularity of electric vehicles is growing, and that means more investment to bring price down. if we said that new cars need to be electric cars, that means there's going to be lots of second—hand petrol and diesel cars for some time. �* , .,
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petrol and diesel cars for some time. i ., ., petrol and diesel cars for some time. 3 ., ., ., time. it's not that long in the life of a car. that's _ time. it's not that long in the life of a car. that's where _ time. it's not that long in the life of a car. that's where they're - of a car. that's where they're going to end up. unlike all the other parties, you're going to... other arties parties, you're going to... other parties were _ parties, you're going to... other parties were saying _ parties, you're going to... other parties were saying that - parties, you're going to... other parties were saying that until. parties were saying that until recently, but we want to give the sector in this case, the electric vehicle sector, we want to give those confidence. what the government has done is to pull the rug away from underneath those sectors when we have huge economic opportunities here.— opportunities here. crosstalk we said to _ opportunities here. crosstalk we said to the _ opportunities here. crosstalk we said to the aa, _ opportunities here. crosstalk we said to the aa, what - opportunities here. crosstalk we said to the aa, what do - opportunities here. crosstalk we said to the aa, what do you opportunities here. crosstalk - we said to the aa, what do you think that would cost? they said if you have the current incentives to buy electric vehicles, for 30 million cars, they put the cost at £86 billion. they describe the policy as an impossible dream. irate billion. they describe the policy as an impossible dream.— an impossible dream. we do need to ut mone an impossible dream. we do need to put money behind — an impossible dream. we do need to put money behind supporting - an impossible dream. we do need to put money behind supporting peoplej put money behind supporting people with that green transition and all
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sorts of ways. we shone in our manifesto that how we would fund that. we need to think about the benefits of doing so. huge opportunities whether that's an renewable energy, which is the cheapest way, whether it's in public transport, because a transition like this can only be done and should only be done if we at the same time put the investment into a real network, one of the most expensive in europe. let network, one of the most expensive in euro e. network, one of the most expensive in euroe. ., i. network, one of the most expensive in euroe. ., ., in europe. let me ask you about another ambition. _ in europe. let me ask you about another ambition. to _ in europe. let me ask you about another ambition. to be - in europe. let me ask you about another ambition. to be fair, - in europe. let me ask you about| another ambition. to be fair, the in europe. let me ask you about - another ambition. to be fair, the uk climate change committee, which advises all government talks about it, the need to eat less meat in our diet. cutting the amount they say by a fifth by third by 2050. what that means to most people is in here watching. 2/2—billion of these burgers are eaten every year. are
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you saying to save the climate, we have to band the burger or make burgers a heck of a lot more expensive? burgers a heck of a lot more “pensive?— burgers a heck of a lot more expensive? burgers a heck of a lot more exensive? ., . ., , expensive? neither of those. what is in our manifesto _ expensive? neither of those. what is in our manifesto is _ expensive? neither of those. what is in our manifesto is supporting - expensive? neither of those. what is in our manifesto is supporting our - in our manifesto is supporting our farmers to produce... in our manifesto is supporting our farmers to produce. . ._ farmers to produce... crosstalk i'm farmers to produce... crosstalk i'm arguing _ farmers to produce... crosstalk i'm arguing that — farmers to produce... crosstalk i'm arguing that the _ farmers to produce... crosstalk i'm arguing that the greens - farmers to produce... crosstalk i'm arguing that the greens havel i'm arguing that the greens have always argued for eating less meat. would have to be more expensive? this would have to be more expensive? is i say, that's our policy that's in our manifesto. it's about what we want to put forward for this next five years. want to put forward for this next five years-_ want to put forward for this next five vears-_ want to put forward for this next five ears. ., ~ ., ., ., five years. talk about a carbon tax, and a tax on _ five years. talk about a carbon tax, and a tax on everything _ five years. talk about a carbon tax, and a tax on everything that - and a tax on everything that produces carbon dioxide, which could heat the planet. 0ne produces carbon dioxide, which could heat the planet. one of the main sources are cows, and therefore the argument is you have to tax. a policy says you want a progressive transition for diet dominated from meat to one dominated by plant—based foods in the operation by the... shire
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foods in the operation by the... are carbon tax — foods in the operation by the... ie: carbon tax that we're foods in the operation by the... i9: carbon tax that we're proposing doesn't include farming, and that's because we are putting positive incentives to support farmers to transition to support producing more food locally, more nature friendly farming. that's what most farmers tell me all the time. more more people are choosing to have a greater proportion of plant—based foods in their diet. that's happening anyway. we are talking about how we can make the farming system overall more resilient. 0ne system overall more resilient. one of the big points is about what proportion of our food is proportion of ourfood is produced in the uk. but proportion of our food is produced in the uk. �* ., �*, proportion of our food is produced inthe uk. �* :, �*, ., ., in the uk. but that's also what a carbon tax _ in the uk. but that's also what a carbon tax is. _ in the uk. but that's also what a carbon tax is. it _ in the uk. but that's also what a carbon tax is. it would _ in the uk. but that's also what a carbon tax is. it would be - in the uk. but that's also what a carbon tax is. it would be a - in the uk. but that's also what a carbon tax is. it would be a tax i in the uk. but that's also what a i carbon tax is. it would be a tax on meat, on cars, on any delivery to your house, on many of the things that we buy and consume. you say it would raise £90 billion in tax from a carbon tax. the think tank for institute for fiscal studies say will be impossible to raise that sort of money without the effect
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being felt by, the key phrase, everyone. everyone would pay more for something as a result. what for something as a result. what we're preposing _ for something as a result. what we're proposing is _ for something as a result. what we're proposing is a _ for something as a result. what we're proposing is a tax - for something as a result. what we're proposing is a tax that. for something as a result. “twat we're proposing is a tax that hits for something as a result. rmtegt we're proposing is a tax that hits a big polluting companies that are causing the climate emergency to have poor incomes... we want to support low carbon british manufacturing and have a carbon tax on those big polluting companies. 0rdinary people are suffering from the fact that the government is not acting on the issues. we have escalating bills, escalating fuel bills, extortionate prices... crosstalk let me be clear, we would be able to produce cheaper electricity... forgive me for interrupting, but you're saying to people low pay. these people who monitor public spending say massive pay for
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everybody. 0r spending say massive pay for everybody. or you have to compensate them all. irate everybody. or you have to compensate them all. ~ :, :, , . ~ them all. we get more money back. let me quote _ them all. we get more money back. let me quote back _ them all. we get more money back. let me quote back to _ them all. we get more money back. let me quote back to you. _ let me quote back to you. introducing carbon tax relating for energy would not work unless you are insulating people's homes, which is what we are proactively saying, that we need to first of all put in place the measures that help people reduce their bills. we are proposing a nationwide programme to insulate homes to bring bills down. it's about supporting ordinary people by taxing... about supporting ordinary people by taxinu... .. : taxing... crosstalk and i taxing... crosstalk and i just _ taxing... crosstalk and i just be - taxing... crosstalk and ijust be clear? i taxing... crosstalk - and ijust be clear? time and taxing... crosstalk _ and ijust be clear? time and time again, experts warn us that the cost of not tackling the climate cross is our fight great —— far greater than not tackling costs. we haven't
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insulated... not tackling costs. we haven't insulated. . ._ not tackling costs. we haven't insulated... , :, :, ., insulated... everyone got warmer homes- -- — insulated... everyone got warmer homes--- _ insulated... everyone got warmer homes... ... crosstalk - homes... crosstalk you say the total cost would be £105 billion a year in day—to—day spending. that is a vast sum of money. these numbers are baffling to people, so forgive me giving you an illustration. this is what the labour party say they would spend. each like a brick is £1 billion —— lego brick. some people disagree, but this is what they say. that's 17 billion. this is what the greens say they will spend. it's an absolute fortune that you're promising. way more thanjeremy corbyn, way more than liz truss, and you're asking
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people to believe they can spend all of that money out of £115 billion without consequence? of that money out of £45 billion without consequence?— of that money out of £45 billion without consequence? you're right to hiuuhliht without consequence? you're right to highlight the — without consequence? you're right to highlight the difference. _ without consequence? you're right to highlight the difference. why - without consequence? you're right to highlight the difference. why is - highlight the difference. why is there such a difference? because we have an nhs at breaking point that requires substantial investment and enough trust has been clear. of the labour and conservative proposals would leave the nhs worse off than it was under david cameron's austerity. we need the transition to the green economy and the way that tackles the crisis. we need to invest in our schools that are crumbling and where teachers don't have the money to spend on the things they need to provide our children with a good education. let's look at this in context because the gdp to tax ratio that the green party is proposing would take us closer to where the average european country is. for people who don't use it--- _ european country is. for people who don't use it... i'm _ european country is. for people who don't use it... i'm talking _ european country is. for people who don't use it... i'm talking about - don't use it... i'm talking about the share of the economy, taken up by tax. let the share of the economy, taken up b tax. , , ., :,
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by tax. let me finish. the share of the economy _ by tax. let me finish. the share of the economy that _ by tax. let me finish. the share of the economy that goes _ by tax. let me finish. the share of the economy that goes into - by tax. let me finish. the share of the economy that goes into tax - by tax. let me finish. the share of the economy that goes into tax for the economy that goes into tax for the uk at the moment is near the bottom of the table. what we are proposing would move us up, we'll still be below france other countries. its labour and the conservatives that are out of step. the ifa is has been very clear that the next government is either going to have to cut public services are increased taxes —— ifs. asking those with the broader shoulders to pay more. ,, ,, : more. crosstalk you said - more. crosstalk you said you - more. crosstalk you said you wantj more. crosstalk l you said you want to more. crosstalk - you said you want to hit the more. crosstalk _ you said you want to hit the people at the border. in particular, there's a proposal more tax on the rich. in particular, a wealth tax. can you name a country that is
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raised anything like the sorts of sums that you say you could raise from wealth tax?— from wealth tax? there are other euro ean from wealth tax? there are other european countries _ from wealth tax? there are other european countries that - from wealth tax? there are other european countries that have - european countries that have introduced wealth taxes. that wasn't the question- — introduced wealth taxes. that wasn't the question. we've _ introduced wealth taxes. that wasn't the question. we've been _ introduced wealth taxes. that wasn't the question. we've been working i the question. we've been working closely with _ the question. we've been working closely with academics _ the question. we've been working closely with academics and - the question. we've been working | closely with academics and experts around a range of models and we've been fairly cautious.— been fairly cautious. crosstalk allow me. cautious, _ been fairly cautious. crosstalk allow me. cautious, that - been fairly cautious. crosstalk allow me. cautious, that would | allow me. cautious, that would suggest there is country that has ever raised this sort of money, but the answer is there isn't. 12 european countries introduced wealth tax. nine of them included france and got rid of them, norway, switzerland and spain still have them. they raised a fraction of what you said. them. they raised a fraction of what ou said. :, , them. they raised a fraction of what ou said. ., , ., them. they raised a fraction of what ou said. :,, ., . ., them. they raised a fraction of what ou said. ., . ., you said. there was a particular way with how france _ you said. there was a particular way with how france introduced - you said. there was a particular way with how france introduced it - you said. there was a particular way with how france introduced it by - with how france introduced it by starting the tax too low. we are
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introducing a tax at 10 million. we would ask them to pay 1%, just 1% of that wealth and assets back into society. this is about what sort of society. this is about what sort of society want to have. we want to have a society where we ask the very rich is to pay a little bit more so that we can tackle the fact that our hospitals are severely overstretched. .. hospitals are severely overstretched... t hospitals are severely overstretched. . .- hospitals are severely overstretched. . . hospitals are severely overstretched... :, , :, overstretched. .. i ask you the questions _ overstretched. .. i ask you the questions about _ overstretched. .. i ask you the questions about other - overstretched. .. i ask you the l questions about other countries because it's all very well talking big numbers, saying and raise them. but if no other countries ever managed to do so and people who are wealthy here who think they will leave britain to go somewhere where there isn't a world tax, all this spending, you paid —— wealth tax. nikki, let me look at what experts have said. —— nick. a professor was quoted by the bbc, one of the first comments on the manifesto. that was
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ethically credible because we are putting forward a set of proposals that if any different from to labour... between those two parties and not being willing to be honest. if we're to tackle the scandal of sewage in our river and transition to a green economy and ensure that people can actually bring down the cost that they're facing. it is cost that they're facing. it is important — cost that they're facing. it is important because - cost that they're facing. it is important because you - cost that they're facing. it is important because you quoted this. the conclusion they came to today was that you had radical ideas which can realistically make a difference. and they compared you with nigel farage's reform. they said these idea are holy and attainable —— wholly unattainable and help to poisoning political... t wholly unattainable and help to poisoning political...— wholly unattainable and help to
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poisoning political... i quoted to ou what poisoning political... i quoted to you what other _ poisoning political... i quoted to you what other experts - poisoning political... i quoted to you what other experts have - poisoning political... i quoted to i you what other experts have said, welcoming our proposals. a different way of thinking that by european standards is actually fairly normal, and we can expect to have the level of health services, the quality of education system, that other countries have if we don't put the investment in. t countries have if we don't put the investment in.— countries have if we don't put the investment in. i want to give you a chance to talk _ investment in. i want to give you a chance to talk about _ investment in. i want to give you a chance to talk about how - investment in. i want to give you a chance to talk about how the - chance to talk about how the green party might use power. there are greens in government or supporting government run across europe. for scotland, it makes it easier. it might one day be introduced from the uk. greens have been a government in supporting government �*s. i want to get a sense of what you might do. but the greens are a separate party. they want to fight to change the
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laws that then could declare himself would be willing involving a doctor, also called gender id. have you learned from the route, you learned the decision to send a rapist called adam to a woman's prison after he changed his name and gender and asked to be called isla? have you learned from the? the asked to be called isla? have you learned from the?— learned from the? the scottish ureens learned from the? the scottish greens are _ learned from the? the scottish greens are separate _ learned from the? the scottish greens are separate party - learned from the? the scottish greens are separate party to i learned from the? the scottish l greens are separate party to the green party in wales, and there's a lot of things the scottish greens have achieved. whether it's on transport and making buffs is free for under 22—year—olds. i'm very proud of. this issue you talk about on gender recognition and some of the knock—on impact of the, that was supported by all five parties in the scottish parliament. itiiuiith supported by all five parties in the scottish parliament.— scottish parliament. with the answers of —
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scottish parliament. with the answers of the _ scottish parliament. with the answers of the question? - scottish parliament. with the i answers of the question? male 0r or you still saying, jk rowling is wrong and we need to push ahead. if you have power, that's what they will have. t0 you have power, that's what they will have. :, :, , you have power, that's what they will have. :, ., , , :, , will have. to answer your questions acificall , will have. to answer your questions pacificallv. yes. _ will have. to answer your questions pacificallv. yes. i — will have. to answer your questions pacifically, yes, i think— will have. to answer your questions pacifically, yes, i think there - will have. to answer your questions pacifically, yes, i think there has i pacifically, yes, i think there has to be learning for all of society on the way these changes are made and showing all spaces whether they be prisons or any other public spaces are run in a way that is safer for everyone involved. the government has been cleared, male body people should not be put in female prisons. i would support that. my second point is that this whole discussion is this discussion has become highly toxic in a way that it ignores the fact that we have very high levels of violence against women and girls, we have a gender pay gap in this country, we have growing... crosstalk
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this is separate. crosstalk this is se arate. ~ :, crosstalk this is searate. :, ., this is separate. we need to have this in a calm _ this is separate. we need to have this in a calm discussion. - this is separate. we need to have this in a calm discussion. let - this is separate. we need to have this in a calm discussion. let me | this in a calm discussion. let me ask ou this in a calm discussion. let me ask you another _ this in a calm discussion. let me ask you another each _ this in a calm discussion. let me ask you another each week - ask you another each week controversial issue. —— equally controversial. the green party says the long—term aim is for world without borders. no borders, no immigration control, anyone can live where they would like. how would that will work?— that will work? that's not our oli in that will work? that's not our policy in our _ that will work? that's not our policy in our manifesto. - that will work? that's not our policy in our manifesto. it's i that will work? that's not our| policy in our manifesto. it's on our policy in our manifesto. it's on your website. _ policy in our manifesto. it's on your website. i'm _ policy in our manifesto. it's on your website. i'm here - policy in our manifesto. it's on your website. i'm here to - policy in our manifesto. it's on - your website. i'm here to promote our oli your website. i'm here to promote our policy for _ your website. i'm here to promote our policy for the _ your website. i'm here to promote our policy for the next _ your website. i'm here to promote our policy for the next five - your website. i'm here to promote our policy for the next five years. | our policy for the next five years. so you don't believe in... t our policy for the next five years. so you don't believe in... i believe we need to — so you don't believe in... i believe we need to uphold _ so you don't believe in... i believe we need to uphold the _ so you don't believe in... i believe we need to uphold the long - so you don't believe in... i believe we need to uphold the long track. we need to uphold the long track record for being a safe haven for people or fleeing war or persecution or climate changes. we need to play our role internationally and welcoming people fleeing persecution.—
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persecution. crosstalk i'm persecution. crosstalk i'm asking _ persecution. crosstalk i'm asking you _ persecution. crosstalk i'm asking you what - persecution. crosstalk i'm asking you what did i persecution. crosstalk| i'm asking you what did it persecution. crosstalk - i'm asking you what did it mean? persecution. crosstalk _ i'm asking you what did it mean? how would it work? anybody can move here? this would it work? anybody can move here? : , , would it work? anybody can move here? a ., �*, :, :, here? as i say, that's not our oli . here? as i say, that's not our policv- itut — here? as i say, that's not our policy. but passed _ here? as i say, that's not our policy. but passed by - here? as i say, that's not our policy. but passed by the - here? as i say, that's not our i policy. but passed by the green pa . policy. but passed by the green party- thev _ policy. but passed by the green party. they growing _ policy. but passed by the green party. they growing numbers i policy. but passed by the green l party. they growing numbers who policy. but passed by the green - party. they growing numbers who are riskin: their party. they growing numbers who are risking their lives _ party. they growing numbers who are risking their lives fleeing _ party. they growing numbers who are risking their lives fleeing their - risking their lives fleeing their country because of war and or climate change, and we need to address the root causes of that. that's why the green party is alone in the election and saying we would restore the international aid. we supported poorer countries to adapt to climate changes. tt supported poorer countries to adapt to climate changes.— to climate changes. if that works, we're dealing _ to climate changes. if that works, we're dealing with _ to climate changes. if that works, we're dealing with problems - to climate changes. if that works, we're dealing with problems with | to climate changes. if that works, - we're dealing with problems with how people leave their homes. we're going to deal with the climate crisis. we're going to deal with wealth and equality by international aid, and in the green party policy —
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policy, it's on your website — is a world without borders. tt is policy, it's on your website - is a world without borders. it is about what green _ world without borders. it is about what green mps _ world without borders. it is about what green mps will _ world without borders. it is about what green mps will put - world without borders. it is about what green mps will put for. - what green mps will put for. crosstalk that needs to be safe and legal routes to a asylum. t’m that needs to be safe and legal routes to a asylum.— routes to a asylum. i'm hearing you, but i'm routes to a asylum. i'm hearing you, but i'm also — routes to a asylum. i'm hearing you, but i'm also hearing _ routes to a asylum. i'm hearing you, but i'm also hearing you _ routes to a asylum. i'm hearing you, but i'm also hearing you don't - routes to a asylum. i'm hearing you, but i'm also hearing you don't agree | but i'm also hearing you don't agree with their own party's policy. there's another thing you should push forward. you make have power to deliver these policies. your manifesto said is to create a legally regulated market for drugs does not mean legalising all drugs and regulating them? people going to music festivals this summer are
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getting this message, vote green and you'll be able to take cocaine, ketamine, cannabis.— you'll be able to take cocaine, ketamine, cannabis. let's look at the... ketamine, cannabis. let's look at the--- must _ ketamine, cannabis. let's look at the... must answer _ ketamine, cannabis. let's look at the... must answer the _ ketamine, cannabis. let's look at the... must answer the question. let's the... must answer the question. let's look — the... must answer the question. let's look at _ the... must answer the question. let's look at the _ the... must answer the question. let's look at the policy. _ the... must answer the question. let's look at the policy. we - the... must answer the question. let's look at the policy. we must| let's look at the policy. we must introduce commission on drugs to address the fact that the war on drugs has failed. the growing numbers who are addicted to drugs, we have a huge amount of power in the hands of criminal gangs that are profiting from the, and we need to see drug addiction as a medical issue, not as a criminal issue. to support individuals who are addicted, to regulate those drugs, which are in the hands of criminal gangs. let's look through this commission how other countries around the world have introduced a more enlightened policies that do actually support people who are addicted. is. actually support people who are addicted. : :, :, , actually support people who are addicted. :, :, , ., addicted. a lot of people have an ued addicted. a lot of people have argued about _ addicted. a lot of people have argued about the _ addicted. a lot of people have argued about the regulating . addicted. a lot of people have - argued about the regulating drugs. i'm asking you specifically, beyond the attics, you might be able to
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treat a medical problem, your policy is still legalising drugs. your co—leader says you want to see a legalised regulated system. 0r co—leader says you want to see a legalised regulated system. or that mean for someone who's not an addict, but says, i want to take some cocaine tonight? are they legal or they legal? that some cocaine tonight? are they legal or they legal?— or they legal? that will depend on what the independent _ or they legal? that will depend on what the independent commission or they legal? that will depend on - what the independent commission that we want to set up establishes because got to be an evidence—based decision that is made. tt because got to be an evidence-based decision that is made.— decision that is made. it could be leual. for decision that is made. it could be legal. for several _ decision that is made. it could be legal. for several softer - decision that is made. it could be legal. for several softer drugs i decision that is made. it could be i legal. for several softer drugs that the olice legal. for several softer drugs that the police are _ legal. for several softer drugs that the police are spinning _ legal. for several softer drugs that the police are spinning lots - legal. for several softer drugs that the police are spinning lots of time pursuing individuals for procession is not a best use of police time compared to all the work that the criminal gangs profit from that situation. there needs to be an evidence—based approach on this issue. t evidence-based approach on this issue. , , :, ., :, ., :,
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issue. i suggested to a moment ago but really give _ issue. i suggested to a moment ago but really give you _ issue. i suggested to a moment ago but really give you a _ issue. i suggested to a moment ago but really give you a chance - issue. i suggested to a moment ago but really give you a chance that - but really give you a chance that some people look at these policies and think they're a party of radical far left. let us come to that. you have had some problems with your candidates. everyone who sits on that chair tells me the same thing. "nigelfarage did a couple of that chair tells me the same thing. "nigel farage did a couple of days ago." you did drop a candidate who tweeted his hunch about israel and hamas on october the 7th. he saw candidates on the ballot box, and one tweeting they israel must be eliminated —— like a tweet saying. another claim to the victims of the holocaust had turned into the predators. 0ne likened hamas to the resistance in france. why are these
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people all attracted to join and stand for the green party. ? tlahe people all attracted to join and stand for the green party. ? none of those comments _ stand for the green party. ? none of those comments you've _ stand for the green party. ? none of those comments you've quoted - stand for the green party. ? none of those comments you've quoted are i those comments you've quoted are ones that i would condone. the green party has had situations where there were candidates who were originally selected, questions have been made about comments that they had made themselves or they had liked on social media, and in four cases, the party is a connection to result in those candidates no longer going forward. , ., , those candidates no longer going forward. , :, , ., forward. then why are they attracted to our forward. then why are they attracted to your party? _ forward. then why are they attracted to your party? i'm — forward. then why are they attracted to your party? i'm not _ forward. then why are they attracted to your party? i'm not going - forward. then why are they attracted to your party? i'm not going to - forward. then why are they attracted to your party? i'm not going to get i to your party? i'm not going to get into talking — to your party? i'm not going to get into talking about _ to your party? i'm not going to get into talking about individual- into talking about individual candidates because these are questions raised about candidates, there is a process to be investigated, they may well still be currently investigated. tide investigated, they may well still be currently investigated.— currently investigated. we are almost out — currently investigated. we are almost out of _ currently investigated. we are almost out of time, _ currently investigated. we are almost out of time, but - currently investigated. we are almost out of time, but let. currently investigated. we are| almost out of time, but let me currently investigated. we are - almost out of time, but let me get you the chance to address the point that i made. there are people who agree with what you say about the climate. they worry about the countryside. they see the vast amounts of money they want to spend. they hear your attitude towards
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drugs and migration. they see the candidates and they say, "the greens have become the new party of the radical far left." nick, have become the new party of the radicalfar left." nick, the people i spoke to in east anglia every day, many of whom traditionally voted conservative and feel utterly let down, make very clear that they're looking for a positive alternative. they're think about the future and they know that having green voices in parliament, to press for the restoration of public services, will push the new government to be bolder. they are planning on voting for positive change in from more green mps. adrian ramsey, thank you very much indeed forjoining me. next up on friday night, the leader of the liberal democrats, sir ed davies.
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—— sir ed davey.
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hello, i'm rajini vaidyanathan. you're watching the context on bbc news. the next government is either going to have to cut public services or increase taxes, and so the green party is the only party being honest in this election. we're either going to see some big tax increases or some spending cuts, given where we are with the public finances at the moment. to do things properly is to get to the bottom of what happened, to investigate things thoroughly, and we have to do that separately to the gambling commission,
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who don't report to me. rishi sunak needs to show some leadership. if these were my candidates, i tell you what, they'd be gone. their feet wouldn't have touched the floor. 0n tonight's panel — anna gross, political correspondent at the financial times, and writer and broadcasterjennie kleeman. ——jenny —— jenny kleeman. will be with the panel injust a moment, but —— jenny kleeman. will be with the panel in just a moment, but first, the latest headlines. israel's defence minister, yoav gallant, is in washington meeting senior us officials. the state department says secretary of state antony blinken will emphasize to him the importance of israel developing a realistic plan for the governance of gaza once the war is over. princess anne is in hospital with concussion after apparently being injured by a horse. the incident happened on her estate in gloucestershire yesterday. buckingham palace says the princess, who's 73, is expected to make a full recovery, though is likely to remain in hospital for some days.

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