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tv   The Context  BBC News  June 25, 2024 9:30pm-10:01pm BST

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hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. with just over a week to go until polling day, labour and the tories clash over how to approach migration. rishi sunak has claimed migrants are "queuing up in calais" waiting for a labour government so they can come to the uk. but labour his back,
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pointing to the latest figures which suggest they are not waiting, they are crossing in record numbers. this morning those reports were put to home secretary james cleverley, during an immigration debate on lbc. so are voters really meant to believe that people living in camps and on sand dunes are looking at the polling of the next general election in the united kingdom? they absolutely do. the people, those people are doing that. mr cleverly. well, unless you're going to accuse the journalists that went over there and spoke to them of lying, which i think would be a bold call. we know that this is a digital, digitally enabled criminal enterprise. the people smugglers and the people that seek to be smuggled pay very, very close attention to a whole range of things. and it is clear from these quotes that there are there's a cohort of people currently in france who are waiting for rwanda to be taken off the table
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before coming over here. and these quotes in the telegraph make it really clear i will not go until the day they make the right decision to destroy rwanda. i am looking forward to a new government. if things change, i will go. that is a direct quote. even though, as yvette cooper writes in the daily telegraph today, even if rwanda worked, it would only cover around 1% of asylum seekers, even if it was working cleverly. even if it was working mtr cleverly. no, because what it is about, it is about creating a deterrent. labour has said it would fund a new security board command, intelligence officers working alongside the french police. if it is digitally enabled then perhaps a deterrent like rwanda is being discussed on the other side of the child. how do you think this is going to make a huge difference? from what i understood from this debate today james cleverley and yvette cooper
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debating together there is already communication, a border command of thai that is looking at small bows for the house labours planker to be sufficiently different? i for the house labours planker to be sufficiently different?— sufficiently different? i think labour has — sufficiently different? i think labour has argued _ sufficiently different? i think labour has argued that - sufficiently different? i think labour has argued that their| sufficiently different? i think- labour has argued that their plan is going to be a lot there. the command will be extensive, much broader powers in order to communicate and exchange information with similar kinds of command across europe. they claim that's what makes it sufficiently different. essentially what labour thinks is the main plank of their argument is to negotiate more return deals. similar to the ones the governments already negotiated with albania which is had some success in stopping people coming from that country. there are plenty of places where that's our card to be possible at all to negotiate return deals. you're lucky to be able to get a return deal with
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the taliban and with chiron. there —— | the taliban and with chiron. there —— i ran. there are plenty of holes in labours policy but the real question, there is a lot of holes in their rwanda scheme for the no i's ever managing a plane off the ground and labour think it's immoral. it's and labour think it's immoral. it's a very difficult question.— and labour think it's immoral. it's a very difficult question. chris, do ou think a very difficult question. chris, do you think it _ a very difficult question. chris, do you think it could _ a very difficult question. chris, do you think it could be _ a very difficult question. chris, do you think it could be intelligence | you think it could be intelligence led to a better degree than we've seen over recent years? possibly. resources — seen over recent years? possibly. resources are _ seen over recent years? possibly. resources are a — seen over recent years? possibly. resources are a factor _ seen over recent years? possibly. resources are a factor in - seen over recent years? possibly. resources are a factor in the - resources are a factor in the resources _ resources are a factor in the resources of intelligence. i suspect it's a _ resources of intelligence. i suspect it's a far— resources of intelligence. i suspect it's a far more to do with how it will work— it's a far more to do with how it will work in _ it's a far more to do with how it will work in france. in our relationship in france under this government has been poor until recently — government has been poor until recently. you have liz truss playing at one _ recently. you have liz truss playing at one point— recently. you have liz truss playing at one point she wasn't sure whether atone point she wasn't sure whether micron— at one point she wasn't sure whether micron was— at one point she wasn't sure whether micron was an ally or an adversary. i micron was an ally or an adversary. l think_ micron was an ally or an adversary. llhink that's — micron was an ally or an adversary. i think that's the key to this. —— president — i think that's the key to this. —— president macron the other thing is why they— president macron the other thing is why they would risk their lives come across— why they would risk their lives come across the _ why they would risk their lives come across the water from the borders of france _ across the water from the borders of france to _ across the water from the borders of france to england. i can understand
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why people — france to england. i can understand why people would risk their lives coming — why people would risk their lives coming from tunisia or italy, but not that — coming from tunisia or italy, but not that. we need to understand what it is that _ not that. we need to understand what it is that this— not that. we need to understand what it is that this country has that is such— it is that this country has that is such a _ it is that this country has that is such a magnet. in it is that this country has that is such a magnet.— it is that this country has that is such a magnet. in what sense? is their ull such a magnet. in what sense? is their pull factor _ such a magnet. in what sense? is their pull factor in _ such a magnet. in what sense? is their pull factor in the _ such a magnet. in what sense? is their pull factor in the uk - such a magnet. in what sense? is their pull factor in the uk that - such a magnet. in what sense? isi their pull factor in the uk that the next government needs to look at? there are clearly pull factors in the uk. france is an advanced economy. it might be language. i'm not sure it is. i suspect it's got more to do with the economy, the black economy and the way in which people don't have identity cards. you would point to policing intelligence within the country that should be primarily focused on the black economy, employers who are hiring illegal migrants, who are under heading workers in the economy, that's what you would put some of the focus? i think it's very important. obviously, ourviews make this point, it's a small fraction of the net migration that we have
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currently. yvette cooper was asked about that. she promised a significant reduction hundreds labour but she repeatedly refused to put a numerical target audit for the largely because the conservative when they have done that have missed the target. you can understand why she's doing it politically. i wonder in practice when you need a number to work to. i in practice when you need a number to work to. ~ in practice when you need a number to work to— to work to. i think the reason not ut a to work to. i think the reason not put a number _ to work to. i think the reason not put a number on _ to work to. i think the reason not put a number on is _ to work to. i think the reason not put a number on is ludicrous - to work to. i think the reason not put a number on is ludicrous thati to work to. i think the reason not l put a number on is ludicrous that is totally— put a number on is ludicrous that is totally context dependent and everyone who's done it has found it to he _ everyone who's done it has found it to he a _ everyone who's done it has found it to be a hostage to fortune. and lots of prize _ to be a hostage to fortune. and lots of prize yvette cooper is not doing that _ of prize yvette cooper is not doing that one — of prize yvette cooper is not doing that. one of the things that is quite — that. one of the things that is quite clear when you look at the polling — quite clear when you look at the polling around immigration is that people _ polling around immigration is that people are concerned about legal two illegal— people are concerned about legal two illegal migration. they are worried about— illegal migration. they are worried about people coming to work in the nhs, _ about people coming to work in the nhs, to— about people coming to work in the nhs, to workjobs that we like them to do _ nhs, to workjobs that we like them to do. they're not particularly worried — to do. they're not particularly worried about international students or generally people coming over here to work _ or generally people coming over here to work the —
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or generally people coming over here to work. the concerns people have are around — to work. the concerns people have are around control and illegal immigration for that which like you say it— immigration for that which like you say it makes up a small proportion of the _ say it makes up a small proportion of the numbers. i think if politicians want to win over the public — politicians want to win over the public that is the area that they are saying over and over again that they want— are saying over and over again that they want us to focus on. well labour as _ they want us to focus on. well labour as chris _ they want us to focus on. well labour as chris says _ they want us to focus on. well labour as chris says once - they want us to focus on. well labour as chris says once a - they want us to focus on. -ii labour as chris says once a closer relationship with france to tackle the small boat crossing. that might well depend on the upcoming election. first run on sunday. both trackers have been looking today. that's a manual mccombs group who was almost erased —— emmanuel macron. the national rally a long way ahead of the moment. probably short of an overall majority. next comes the hard left in the guise of the new popular front the podcast release yesterday emmanuel macron took a look at the two extremes which could lead the country to civil war. tonight is the first televised debate.
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in a podcast released yesterday president macron took aim at "the two extremes" which he said could lead the country "to civil war". tonight it's the first televised debate of the campaign the french prime minister gabriel attal has debated his two rivals, that is the equally youthful jordan bardella representing the rally, who could ultimately replace him as prime minister. and for the left manuel bompard, who is there instead ofjean—luc melenchon. interestingly the republicains, once the centre right power in france, have no candidate on stage at all. for me it's a revealing thing because it shows how the mainstream in many european countries at the moment have been replaced by the insurgents for the three parties, even emmanuel macron sparty is an insurgent through the middle. no place for the socialist, no place for the republicans.— place for the socialist, no place for the republicans. they are going throu~h a for the republicans. they are going through a period — for the republicans. they are going through a period of _ for the republicans. they are going through a period of extreme - through a period of extreme turbulence _ through a period of extreme turbulence. it's— through a period of extreme turbulence. it's not- through a period of extreme turbulence. it's notjust - through a period of extreme turbulence. it's notjust in l through a period of extreme i turbulence. it's notjust in the through a period of extreme - turbulence. it's notjust in the us or in_ turbulence. it's notjust in the us or in the — turbulence. it's notjust in the us or in the uk— turbulence. it's notjust in the us or in the uk or— turbulence. it's notjust in the us or in the uk or with— turbulence. it's notjust in the us or in the uk or with brexit - turbulence. it's notjust in the us or in the uk or with brexit or- or in the uk or with brexit or with france _ or in the uk or with brexit or with france or— or in the uk or with brexit or with france or russia _ or in the uk or with brexit or with france or russia put _ or in the uk or with brexit or with france or russia put up there - or in the uk or with brexit or with france or russia put up there is. france or russia put up there is 'ust france or russia put up there is just the — france or russia put up there is just the sense _ france or russia put up there is just the sense that _ france or russia put up there is just the sense that things - france or russia put up there is just the sense that things are l france or russia put up there isj just the sense that things are in france or russia put up there is. just the sense that things are in a churn _ just the sense that things are in a churn the — just the sense that things are in a churn. the more _ just the sense that things are in a churn. the more mature - just the sense that things are in a churn. the more mature that- churn. the more mature that they normally— churn. the more mature that they normally are _ churn. the more mature that they normally are. there's _ churn. the more mature that they normally are. there's probably- churn. the more mature that they normally are. there's probably a i normally are. there's probably a couple _ normally are. there's probably a couple of — normally are. there's probably a couple of reasons. _ normally are. there's probably a
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couple of reasons. the - normally are. there's probably a couple of reasons. the first - normally are. there's probably a couple of reasons. the first is i normally are. there's probably a i couple of reasons. the first is the pandemic, — couple of reasons. the first is the pandemic, after— couple of reasons. the first is the pandemic, after every— couple of reasons. the first is the pandemic, after every major- couple of reasons. the first is the - pandemic, after every major pandemic in history— pandemic, after every major pandemic in history there — pandemic, after every major pandemic in history there has _ pandemic, after every major pandemic in history there has been _ pandemic, after every major pandemic in history there has been massive - in history there has been massive social— in history there has been massive social upheaval _ in history there has been massive social upheaval and _ in history there has been massive social upheaval and change. - in history there has been massivel social upheaval and change. some good, _ social upheaval and change. some good, some — social upheaval and change. some good, some bad _ social upheaval and change. some good, some bad but— social upheaval and change. some good, some bad but it's _ social upheaval and change. some good, some bad but it's always. social upheaval and change. some | good, some bad but it's always led to an _ good, some bad but it's always led to an immense _ good, some bad but it's always led to an immense reassessment - 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things. and climate change is because a lot of people to be | because a lot of people to be polarised _ because a lot of people to be polarised and _ because a lot of people to be polarised and say _ because a lot of people to be polarised and say this - because a lot of people to be polarised and say this is - because a lot of people to be - polarised and say this is something we were _ polarised and say this is something we were able. _ polarised and say this is something we were able, something - polarised and say this is something we were able, something we - polarised and say this is something we were able, something we don'tl we were able, something we don't worry— we were able, something we don't worry about — we were able, something we don't worry about you _ we were able, something we don't worry about. you can _ we were able, something we don't worry about. you can draw - we were able, something we don't worry about. you can draw a - we were able, something we don'ti worry about. you can draw a strong line around — worry about. you can draw a strong line around people _ worry about. you can draw a strong line around people who _ worry about. you can draw a strong line around people who think - worry about. you can draw a strong i line around people who think climate change _ line around people who think climate change isn't — line around people who think climate change isn't so — line around people who think climate change isn't so bad. _ line around people who think climate change isn't so bad. it— line around people who think climate change isn't so bad. it is— line around people who think climate change isn't so bad. it is generally. change isn't so bad. it is generally better— change isn't so bad. it is generally better to _ change isn't so bad. it is generally better to eight _ change isn't so bad. it is generally better to eight right—wing - change isn't so bad. it is generally better to eight right—wing and - change isn't so bad. it is generally. better to eight right—wing and older and don't _ better to eight right—wing and older and don't like — better to eight right—wing and older and don't like migration. _ and don't like migration. politicians _ and don't like migration. politicians will— and don't like migration. politicians will appeal. and don't like migration. politicians will appeal to | and don't like migration. - politicians will appeal to that because _ politicians will appeal to that because that's _ politicians will appeal to that because that's where - politicians will appeal to that because that's where they. politicians will appeal to that. because that's where they can actually— because that's where they can actually call _ because that's where they can actually call all— because that's where they can actually call all those - because that's where they can actually call all those people i because that's where they can. actually call all those people to because that's where they can - actually call all those people to do something — actually call all those people to do something and _ actually call all those people to do something and vote _ actually call all those people to do something and vote for _ actually call all those people to do something and vote for them. - actually call all those people to do something and vote for them. thej something and vote for them. the same _ something and vote for them. the same as— something and vote for them. the same as the — something and vote for them. the same as the other— something and vote for them. the same as the other end _ something and vote for them. the same as the other end as - something and vote for them. the same as the other end as well. . same as the other end as well. migration — same as the other end as well. migration in _ same as the other end as well. migration in that _ same as the other end as well. migration in that mix? - same as the other end as well. migration in that mix? very- same as the other end as well. . migration in that mix? very much same as the other end as well. - migration in that mix? very much so. a lot _ migration in that mix? very much so. a lot of— migration in that mix? very much so. a lot of immigration _ migration in that mix? very much so. a lot of immigration is _ migration in that mix? very much so. a lot of immigration is depended - migration in that mix? very much so. a lot of immigration is depended on i a lot of immigration is depended on failed _ a lot of immigration is depended on failed states— a lot of immigration is depended on failed states which _ a lot of immigration is depended on failed states which is _ a lot of immigration is depended on failed states which is up _ a lot of immigration is depended on failed states which is up to - failed states which is up to political— failed states which is up to political upheaval - failed states which is up to political upheaval and - failed states which is up to i political upheaval and climate change — political upheaval and climate change it _ political upheaval and climate change it all— political upheaval and climate change. it all ties _ political upheaval and climate change. it all ties into - political upheaval and climate . change. it all ties into everything else _ change. it all ties into everything else huge — change. it all ties into everything else. huge number— change. it all ties into everything else. huge number of— change. it all ties into everything else. huge number of factors - change. it all ties into everything . else. huge number of factors going on. else. huge number of factors going on its— else. huge number of factors going on it's ironic— else. huge number of factors going on. it's ironic that _ else. huge number of factors going on. it's ironic that the _ else. huge number of factors going on. it's ironic that the people - 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are most— on. it's ironic that the people who are most opposed _ on. it's ironic that the people who are most opposed to _ on. it's ironic that the people who are most opposed to waves - on. it's ironic that the people who are most opposed to waves of- are most opposed to waves of migration— are most opposed to waves of migration are _ are most opposed to waves of migration are older— are most opposed to waves of migration are older membersl are most opposed to waves of. migration are older members of society— migration are older members of society whose _ migration are older members of society whose pensions - migration are older members of society whose pensions and - migration are older members of- society whose pensions and standards of living _ society whose pensions and standards of living depend — society whose pensions and standards of living depend upon— society whose pensions and standards of living depend upon migration - society whose pensions and standards of living depend upon migration to- of living depend upon migration to keep it _ of living depend upon migration to keep it ticking _ of living depend upon migration to keep it ticking over. _ of living depend upon migration to keep it ticking over. that- of living depend upon migration to keep it ticking over. that debate l of living depend upon migration to| keep it ticking over. that debate is something — keep it ticking over. that debate is something we _ keep it ticking over. that debate is something we haven't _ keep it ticking over. that debate is something we haven't got - keep it ticking over. that debate is something we haven't got around. keep it ticking over. that debate is. something we haven't got around to have it _ something we haven't got around to have it yet — something we haven't got around to have it yet it's_ something we haven't got around to have it yet. it's one _ something we haven't got around to have it yet. it's one of— something we haven't got around to have it yet. it's one of those - have it yet. it's one of those things— have it yet. it's one of those things that _ have it yet. it's one of those things that we _ have it yet. it's one of those things that we have - have it yet. it's one of those things that we have to - have it yet. it's one of those things that we have to look. have it yet. it's one of those i things that we have to look at ourselves— things that we have to look at ourselves and _ things that we have to look at ourselves and say, _ things that we have to look at ourselves and say, what - things that we have to look at ourselves and say, what do i things that we have to look ati ourselves and say, what do we want ourselves and say, what do we want our country — ourselves and say, what do we want our country to — ourselves and say, what do we want our country to be _ ourselves and say, what do we want our country to be like _ ourselves and say, what do we want our country to be like when - ourselves and say, what do we want our country to be like when we're i our country to be like when we're old and _ our country to be like when we're old and need _ our country to be like when we're old and need care _ our country to be like when we're old and need care and _ our country to be like when we're old and need care and pensions. our country to be like when we're . old and need care and pensions and make _ old and need care and pensions and make younger— old and need care and pensions and make younger people _ old and need care and pensions and make younger people pay _ old and need care and pensions and make younger people pay into - old and need care and pensions and make younger people pay into the i old and need care and pensions and . make younger people pay into the tax system? _ make younger people pay into the tax system? that— make younger people pay into the tax system? that involves _ make younger people pay into the tax system? that involves young - make younger people pay into the tax system? that involves young people. system? that involves young people coming _ system? that involves young people coming over— system? that involves young people coming over here _ system? that involves young people coming over here from _ system? that involves young people coming over here from some - system? that involves young people coming over here from some rows . system? that involves young people l coming over here from some rows and being _ coming over here from some rows and being welcomed — coming over here from some rows and being welcomed and _ coming over here from some rows and being welcomed and allowed - coming over here from some rows and being welcomed and allowed to - coming over here from some rows and being welcomed and allowed to pay. being welcomed and allowed to pay tax and _ being welcomed and allowed to pay tax and allowed _ being welcomed and allowed to pay tax and allowed to _ being welcomed and allowed to pay tax and allowed to work, _ being welcomed and allowed to pay tax and allowed to work, not - tax and allowed to work, not demonised _ tax and allowed to work, not demonised and _ tax and allowed to work, not demonised and pushed - tax and allowed to work, not| demonised and pushed back. tax and allowed to work, not - demonised and pushed back. who tax and allowed to work, not demonised and pushed back. who knows where we may — demonised and pushed back. who knows where we may be — demonised and pushed back. who knows where we may be in _ demonised and pushed back. who knows where we may be in a _ demonised and pushed back. who knows where we may be in a couple _ demonised and pushed back. who knows where we may be in a couple of- where we may be in a couple of sundays time but the second round of the french vote is held the polls might look different for them at the moment we don't think there will be a majority. i'm wondering how a labour party that want to close relation with france deals with potentially a french government led by a nationalist prime minister. that's obviously a difficult
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possibility that keir starmer is facing — possibility that keir starmer is facing across the channel. he's also facing _ facing across the channel. he's also facing maybe even more terrifying proposition for him that across the atlantic— proposition for him that across the atlantic you might have to deal with donald _ atlantic you might have to deal with donald trump presidency and the us. ithink— donald trump presidency and the us. i think there are people in the labour— i think there are people in the labour camp who think that potentially hasn't been enough of the focus — potentially hasn't been enough of the focus from keir starmer and the people _ the focus from keir starmer and the people around him on threats that could _ people around him on threats that could come internationally. keir starmerm _ could come internationally. keir starmer... they said they want to -et starmer... they said they want to get a _ starmer... they said they want to get a more — starmer... they said they want to get a more trustworthy with the eu. that's_ get a more trustworthy with the eu. that's probably possible but relations couldn't be worse. therefore there are likely to be things— therefore there are likely to be things that do come early to derail what wants to be done in number ten and he_ what wants to be done in number ten and he needs people who are ready to take that _ and he needs people who are ready to take that on — and he needs people who are ready to take that on-— take that on. chris, do you think in a wa is take that on. chris, do you think in a way is the _ take that on. chris, do you think in a way is the french _
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take that on. chris, do you think in a way is the french election - take that on. chris, do you think in a way is the french election and i take that on. chris, do you think in | a way is the french election and the us election more important a way of life that no one were holding in the uk? ., , ,, ., , ~ uk? certainly the us one is. i think it's a very much _ uk? certainly the us one is. i think it's a very much polarised - uk? certainly the us one is. i think it's a very much polarised situation | it's a very much polarised situation there. the most powerful draw democracy he commits a key ally and facing a possible isolationist residency. i think in france it is probably the key state in europe but i don't think the crunch will come there until the presidential election in three years' time. interesting, i think ruled out a mixed government with different members in it. and so i think the problem with france probably won't be that it will be immediately authoritarian, it will be more of a chaotic situation. in authoritarian, it will be more of a chaotic situation.— chaotic situation. in terms of ukraine. _ chaotic situation. in terms of ukraine. as _ chaotic situation. in terms of ukraine, as you _ chaotic situation. in terms of ukraine, as you say, - chaotic situation. in terms of ukraine, as you say, he - chaotic situation. in terms of| ukraine, as you say, he won't cohabit with other parties in government if they do get control then they made it clear that they would stop sending long—range missiles, they wouldn't send french
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troops to train ukrainians. their influence in europe, brussels predominately would be much diminished, wouldn't it? i think france is the _ diminished, wouldn't it? i think france is the key _ diminished, wouldn't it? i think france is the key state - diminished, wouldn't it? i think france is the key state in - diminished, wouldn't it? i thinkj france is the key state in terms diminished, wouldn't it? i think. france is the key state in terms of the next couple of years of politics. the eu and nato and so on, i do very much fair, i was in paris in the embassy in 2002 and remember the shock went the national previous first got through to the second round of the presidential election between the two rounds and hardly increased its vote it's creeping up on us and it certainly looks as though it has the possible prospect of getting into power in the next few years, which is scary. direct links to fascism, his daughters into georgia maloney tried for the mainstream for the around the world and across uk. this is bbc news.
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we started the programme with the news ofjulian a sanch.— news ofjulian a sanch. believed to be carrying — news ofjulian a sanch. believed to be carrying the _ news ofjulian a sanch. believed to be carrying the wikileaks founder. be carrying the wikileaks founder has just arrived. it landed just after nine 3a uk time. at 630 in the morning. ican i can show you live pictures. the front doors where you can see from the reflections in the glass the journalists are waiting for the props waiting for some, from julian a sanch and his lawyers as they come those doors. sir keir starmer has been outlining his plans today, alonside actor idris elba who has long been campaigining on this issue. the labour leader has pledged to cut knife crime by a half in ten years, and has committed to chairing
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an annual summit to track progress towards that target. but he was challenged by reporters today on labour's record in the capital — the party runs city hall — and they have 46 mp's in london out of the 73 seats available. it isn't a question of urban versus rural. in fact i think there's more knife crime, sadly, in rural areas, or at least it is going up more quickly. and i think it's not fair on the families we've been hearing from this morning to simply point the finger to somebody else. this is something which the government needs to take responsibility for, i will take responsibility for, on a cross—party basis, to make the change that we need. and some that we can get on with quite quickly in terms of banning knives available online, some of it will take longer. crimes involving knives or sharp instruments in england and wales stood at 49,489 in 2023 — up 7% from 46,153 in 2022.
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i would dare say anecdotally if you were to ask parents of teenagers in london and in major cities around the country what their biggest concern this would be high up the list. it concern this would be high up the list. ., , , ., �* , ., list. it does seem that way. bristol was i list. it does seem that way. bristol was i think — list. it does seem that way. bristol was i think the _ list. it does seem that way. bristol was i think the focus _ list. it does seem that way. bristol was i think the focus of _ list. it does seem that way. bristol was i think the focus of a story - was i think the focus of a story today. travellers around london particularly afflicted for that lucky in a way that were dealing with knives and not consider cities which is part of gang culture certainly in america. i think there's a deeper problem here. the family, about having the right role models, about having male role models. my son is a teacher as you know in the inner city area and the factors he finds himself being in many cases the male role model for his own peoples. i think this problem goes deep into family culture. 5ir problem goes deep into family culture. . problem goes deep into family culture. ,, ,, ., problem goes deep into family culture. ,, ,, . ., culture. sir keir starmer today talked about _
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culture. sir keir starmer today talked about in _ culture. sir keir starmer today talked about in a _ culture. sir keir starmer today talked about in a way, - culture. sir keir starmer today talked about in a way, i - culture. sir keir starmer today talked about in a way, i do - culture. sir keir starmer today i talked about in a way, i do know, trying to find a way to ban the knives come he's talking about online companies not selling knives, not sharing pictures and that's all well and good. but anybody can find a knife. as process, you've got to get to the root cause of what's pushing people into gangs. it's not about life supply, is it? ida. pushing people into gangs. it's not about life supply, is it?— about life supply, is it? no. most --eole about life supply, is it? no. most people are _ about life supply, is it? no. most people are buying _ about life supply, is it? no. most people are buying their— about life supply, is it? no. most people are buying their stuff- people are buying their stuff online _ people are buying their stuff online i_ people are buying their stuff online. i had to purchase a set of kitchen _ online. i had to purchase a set of kitchen knives on line a little while — kitchen knives on line a little while ago the box popped up and said make sure _ while ago the box popped up and said make sure you are 18 couple you need your photo _ make sure you are 18 couple you need your photo taken and signed for it and all— your photo taken and signed for it and all the — your photo taken and signed for it and all the rest of it for them and when _ and all the rest of it for them and when he — and all the rest of it for them and when he came someone just said is this your— when he came someone just said is this your address, can you tell me the name — this your address, can you tell me the name of— this your address, can you tell me the name of the package? and that was it _ the name of the package? and that was it the — the name of the package? and that was it. the checks and balances are not as— was it. the checks and balances are not as good — was it. the checks and balances are not as good as they could be. and very easy— not as good as they could be. and very easy to— not as good as they could be. and very easy to get away on. part of the issue _ very easy to get away on. part of the issue i— very easy to get away on. part of the issue i think is that we've got two main — the issue i think is that we've got two main parties, saying their solution — two main parties, saying their solution to this is more police and more _ solution to this is more police and more punishment. i don't think the reason _ more punishment. i don't think the
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reason we — more punishment. i don't think the reason we have knife crime epidemic is because _ reason we have knife crime epidemic is because the police don't exist or things— is because the police don't exist or things aren't tough enough if you're one of— things aren't tough enough if you're one of the _ things aren't tough enough if you're one of the kids carrying a knife. a more _ one of the kids carrying a knife. a more inclined to think the liberal democratic party as he is of treating _ democratic party as he is of treating it as a public health crisis — treating it as a public health crisis and _ treating it as a public health crisis and bringing in multi agency solutions— crisis and bringing in multi agency solutions and try to fix it from the bottom _ solutions and try to fix it from the bottom up— solutions and try to fix it from the bottom up and expecting this is going _ bottom up and expecting this is going to — bottom up and expecting this is going to take five or ten years to reverse — going to take five or ten years to reverse is— going to take five or ten years to reverse is probably going to have a bit more _ reverse is probably going to have a bit more success in the long run. they— bit more success in the long run. they want— bit more success in the long run. they want the headline of more police — they want the headline of more police i— they want the headline of more olice. ., _ they want the headline of more olice. ., ., i. police. i would say one thing, youth workers, police. i would say one thing, youth workers. get _ police. i would say one thing, youth workers, get people _ police. i would say one thing, youth workers, get people in _ police. i would say one thing, youth workers, get people in the - workers, get people in the community who can talk to these people. absolutely. that's one of the things that they— absolutely. that's one of the things that they has — absolutely. that's one of the things that they has been _ absolutely. that's one of the things that they has been decimated - absolutely. that's one of the things that they has been decimated by. that they has been decimated by austerity— that they has been decimated by austerity of _ that they has been decimated by austerity of the _ that they has been decimated by austerity of the past _ that they has been decimated by austerity of the past 14. - that they has been decimated by austerity of the past 14. it - that they has been decimated by austerity of the past 14. it is - austerity of the past 14. it is those — austerity of the past 14. it is those front— austerity of the past 14. it is those front line _ austerity of the past 14. it is those front line services - austerity of the past 14. it is| those front line services that austerity of the past 14. it is - those front line services that have been _ those front line services that have been hit — those front line services that have been hit to — those front line services that have been hit. ., , ., ., those front line services that have been hit. ., i. ., ., . , been hit. to everyone who watches toniuht, been hit. to everyone who watches tonight. you _ been hit. to everyone who watches tonight, you made _ been hit. to everyone who watches tonight, you made the _ been hit. to everyone who watches tonight, you made the right- been hit. to everyone who watches tonight, you made the right choice| tonight, you made the right choice because i'm looking about the camera here and still 0—0. you've missed a thing three peddlers tonight chris, susie, jessica well done you for making the right choice to come on
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the context. we will be back at the same time tomorrow plenty more people watching tomorrow no doubt. we will see you then. have a good evening. hello. i'm ben croucher with your update from bbc sport. we'll start — where else — but the european championship where we're into the closing stages in cologne with england taking on slovenia in their final group game. a win guarantees top spot in group c. that would mean avoiding the likes of germany and france until at least the final, bukayo saka thought he'd put them ahead in the first half but phil foden was offside. they came close again before the break with harry kane's toes just a few inches from the ball.
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but it's still goalless. declan rice firing across the goal. the full—time whistle has just gone. denmark— survey are not a classic either. only to be ruled out as it stands england top, slovenia second and denmark 3rd. just confirmation, full—time in that game. just confirmation, full—time in that game. there was a big surprise in group d where austria grabbed top spot ahead of france and netherlands with a deserved 3—2 win over the dutch. austria led twice, were pegged back twice before marcel sabitzer�*s winner ten minutes from times sees them finish ahead of france. netherlands are into the last 16 as one of the best third placed teams. and the austrians leapfrogged kylian mbappe's france.
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mbappe was wearing a mask after injuring his nose earlier in the tournament and missing their last match. he scored a penalty. but bottom side poland won a spot kick of their own — converted after a retake by robert levandowski — so france have to make do with second in the group. it means they're now in the same side of the draw as portugal, germany and spain. a busy final week before the start of wimbledon. many warming up at the eastbourne internation. plenty of british interest, including a convincing win to for a former grand slam champion. here's adam cottier. emma raducanu says she has rekindled her love for tennis and her grass court season appears to be bearing fruit after a ruthless victory over sloane stephens. following a slow start in the contest between former us open champions, raducanu found the level of composure and showed what she may be getting back that happiness for the sport with some impressive tennis. she recovered from being a break
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down twice in the first sent to when it comes allotting the home support. such an exciting brand of tennis she plays. if that was good, it's against the even better for raducanu as she frequently left stevens flat—footed, floundering and without answers. almost three years on from her historic grand slam victory, raducanu appears clear of the injury issues that have punctuated her career since. this was a debut to remember but a stern test lies ahead on wednesday with the world numberfive her opponent in round two. british number one katie bolter will be seated at the all england club next week for the first time. illness has affected her in recent weeks but she power to the first set against a challengerfrom croatia. winning 6—1 in 27 minutes. the second was significantly more uncomfortable for the world number 32. bolter had to save three set points and was 5—1 down in the tie—break.
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she persevered to prevail with the calmness that could serve her well at wimbledon. i love coming back here even though i see a lot of seagulls when i'm serving. it's not that fun, but i do enjoy being down here in the sunshine. number one cameron norrie lost his first round match and was visibly and audibly frustrated during his defeat by the world number 88. norrie has found form hard to come by this season and made a late decision to play in this tournament after losing in the first round at queen's. however he felt he was similar fate in eastbourne, beaten in straight sets, throwing his racket in anger at the end. a great story to finish on from eastbourne — lucky loser giles hussey, world number 359 was called into replace the injured kei nishikori with 20 minutes notice, he then beat the sixth seed
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argentinian mariano navone in straight sets to make it through to round two. it's his first win on the atp tour. our top story, in glitter through to the last 16 of the european championship for them they have finished top of their group for the more of the website. and that's all the sport for now. hello there, good evening. well, it's been the warmest day of the year so far in england and wales today. lots of blue sky and sunshine here in the lavender fields of hertfordshire, but it's turned a lot fresher for scotland and northern ireland. now, yesterday afternoon, 27 degrees celsius was recorded in aberdeenshire, but this afternoon across north—eastern scotland, just 12—13 degrees. so, that's quite the drop, and the cooling trend is set to continue over the next couple of days or so. there will be some showers around at times. the heat and humidity will last longest across england and wales,
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but it will be gone by the end of the day on thursday. now, overnight tonight, still feeling rather muggy and warm for most. there'll be a lot of low cloud around. that's going to be rolling in from the north sea as well. so rather murky conditions for many. a few spots of rain, but generally dry and freshest conditions again out towards north—west scotland and northern ireland. here, lows of a 6—8 degrees celsius, so a much more comfortable night's sleep. into tomorrow, and a lot of that low cloud, mist and murk will roll back towards north sea—facing coasts. a bit of an onshore breeze going on here. a few showers, also some sunny spells across scotland. and despite the fine start to the day, it will cloud over across northern ireland through the afternoon. of course, the best of the sunshine and the highest of the temperatures will be for much of england and wales. mid to high 20s, but locally possibly 30 degrees celsius maybe in the far south. and the pollen levels will also be very high. and then this area of low pressure rolls in on thursday. here's the cold front that brings behind it that cooler—feeling air,
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so the heat and humidity get pushed further eastwards into the near continent as that cooler airjust rolls in. but some strong gusty winds for a time across parts of northern ireland and north—west scotland. there will also be some showers here as well. lots of sunshine elsewhere, including across eastern scotland. in fact, could be a few showers on the front as it gradually clears, and it will take some time, probably until the end of the day, for that cooler air to get to east anglia and the far south—east of england. temperatures here could possibly still be in the mid—20s in celsius perhaps, but much closer to the seasonal average as we head into friday and the weekend. still some sunny spells around. it will still feels warm in the best of the sunshine. any showers tending to be towards the north and the west, but much cooler as we head into the weekend. bye— bye.
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tonight at 10 — the election betting controversy deepens — a fifth conservative politician is investigtated — two conservative candidates lose their party's support and a labour candidate has been suspended. with the election next week it's too late for the conservatives to remove craig williams and laura saunders from ballot papers but they have with the election next week, it's too late for the conservatives to remove craig williams and laura saunders from ballot papers but they have removed their support. and labour has suspended their candidate kevin craig for betting against himself winning in suffolk at the election. an extraordinary day with
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the prospect of yet more to come. it all boils down to one thing — judgement also tonight a frustrating draw for england against slovenia but they're still through to the last 16 at the euros. the wikileaks founderjulian assange hasjust landed in a remote us territory in the pacific, where he'll face a final court hearing — and then should be free — we're there live. kanpai. and the king and queen welcome japan's emperor and empress at a buckingham palace banquet at the start of a state visit. coming up on the bbc news... coverage and analysis from our team of correspondents in the uk and
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abroad. good evening.

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