it is now time for the candidates to deliver their closing statements as predetermined by a coin toss, we begin with you, president you have two minutes. we have made significant _ you have two minutes. we have made significant progress - you have two minutes. we have made significant progress from | made significant progress from the debacle that was left by president trump in his last term. we find ourselves in a situation where, number one, we have to make sure we have a

fair tax system. i ask anyone in the audience and watching this debate, do you think the tax system is fair? the fact is, as i said, nobody making over $400,000 had a single penny —— under $400,000 had a single penny added to taxes and that would be the case under me again. he increased inflation because of the debacle he left with the way he handled the pandemic. and he now wants to tax you more by putting a 10% tariff... for example, he wants to get rid of the ability for medicare, the ability for us to be able to negotiate drug prices with big pharma companies. we got it down to

$35 for insulin rather than $400. reduced costs for seniors no matter how much prescriptions they need. that reduced the federal debt by $160 billion over ten years. because the government don't have to pay exorbitant prices. i will make that available to every senior. he wants to get rid of that. we're going to make sure we have childcare, significantly increase the credits people have for childcare, and make sure we do something about what we are doing on lead pipes and all the things causing health problems for people across the country. we are going to continue to fight to bring down inflation and give people a break. president trump, you now have two minutes for your closing statement. two minutes for your closing statement-— statement. like so many politicians, _ statement. like so many politicians, this - statement. like so many politicians, this man - statement. like so many politicians, this man is l statement. like so many l politicians, this man isjust statement. like so many - politicians, this man isjust a complainer. he said we want to do this, — complainer. he said we want to do this, do— complainer. he said we want to do this, do that, get rid of this—

do this, do that, get rid of this tax. _ do this, do that, get rid of this tax, but he doesn't do anything _ this tax, but he doesn't do anything. all he does is make our country unsafe by allowing millions — our country unsafe by allowing millions of people in. our military— millions of people in. our military doesn't respect him, we looked like falls in afghanistan. we didn't stop israei. _ afghanistan. we didn't stop israel, such a horrible thing that— israel, such a horrible thing that should have never happened. —— we looked like. stop— happened. —— we looked like. stop iran _ happened. —— we looked like. stop iran couldn't do business with— stop iran couldn't do business with china. iran was broke, they— with china. iran was broke, they had _ with china. iran was broke, they had no money for hamas, hezbollah, no money whatsoever for terror~ — hezbollah, no money whatsoever for terror. again, hezbollah, no money whatsoever forterror. again, ukraine for terror. again, ukraine should _ forterror. again, ukraine should never have happened. he dioni— should never have happened. he didn't do— should never have happened. he didn't do it for three and a half— didn't do it for three and a half years, we are living in heii — half years, we are living in heii we _ half years, we are living in hell. we have the palestinians and everybody else all over the piaco — and everybody else all over the place. this is 100 times charlottesville, 1000 times. the whole country is exploding because — the whole country is exploding because of you. they don't respect _ because of you. they don't respect you and they have to respect — respect you and they have to respect their presidents. they don't — respect their presidents. they don't respect you throughout the world. what we did was incredible, we rebuilt the military, the largest tax cut in history, the largest

regulation cut in history. the reason — regulation cut in history. the reason he _ regulation cut in history. the reason he hasjobs is because i cut the — reason he hasjobs is because i cut the regulations, but he's putting — cut the regulations, but he's putting a _ cut the regulations, but he's putting a lot of them back on. all of— putting a lot of them back on. all of the _ putting a lot of them back on. all of the things we have done, nobody— all of the things we have done, nobody has ever seen anything like it — nobody has ever seen anything like it. even medical, where we can try— like it. even medical, where we can try space age material materials rather than going to asia _ materials rather than going to asia and — materials rather than going to asia and europe when you are terminally ill, you sign the document, they have been trying to get— document, they have been trying to get it — document, they have been trying to get it for 42 years... but you — to get it for 42 years... but you know _ to get it for 42 years... but you know what we did for the nrilitary— you know what we did for the military was incredible. choice for our— military was incredible. choice for our soldiers. instead of waiting _ for our soldiers. instead of waiting for three months to see a doctor. — waiting for three months to see a doctor, they can go out and -et a doctor, they can go out and get themselves fixed up and ready— get themselves fixed up and ready and take care of themselves and they are living, and that's— themselves and they are living, and that's why i had the highest _ and that's why i had the highest approval rating in the history— highest approval rating in the history of the v a. we are in a failing — history of the v a. we are in a failing nation but it's not going _ failing nation but it's not going to be failing any more, we are — going to be failing any more, we are going to make it great again — we are going to make it great aaain. . ~ we are going to make it great aaain. ., ~' ,, we are going to make it great aaain. ., ,, i. ., again. thank you, former president _ again. thank you, former president trump, - again. thank you, former. president trump, president biden. stay with us because we have full of this debate. now

on cnn. —— full analysis of this debate. you have been watching the cnn presidential debate, we are live in atlanta, georgia to bring you special postdebate analysis. it's the first time presidentjoe biden and former presidentjoe biden and former president donald trump have faced off since the 2020 presidential election, and it's the earliest debate ever held in an election year. those debates are usually held in september, october, a couple of weeks from polling day. this year, a year of firsts. the first time the two parties have gone outside of the commission on presidential debates to make their own arrangement with a media organisation. in this case cnn. we havejust media organisation. in this case cnn. we have just been watching an hour and a half of the debate from both candidates. let's get reaction

from our panel. we arejoined by former members of congress, stephanie murphy, a democrat from florida, and rodney davis, a republican from illinois. a lot to talk about, and we will get to everything, but if i can get to everything, but if i can get a brief first reaction. 1 get a brief first reaction. i think it was what people expected out of the two candidates. there were moments where president biden did show his age, it was difficult to understand him. but on the other hand, former president trump continued to not answer the question and still his responses to things which were not exactly true. when they go to fact check this debate, it would be interesting to see how much was not true about what he said. although what i will have to say is if the biden campaign

had wanted to use this to draw contrasts, i'm not sure they got the contrast they wanted. because it did highlight the more senior elements of the current president, while the format where they cut off the mic help to mitigate and keep a more measured trump.- mic help to mitigate and keep a more measured trump. when you mentioned — more measured trump. when you mentioned joe _ more measured trump. when you mentioned joe biden _ more measured trump. when you mentioned joe biden and - more measured trump. when you mentioned joe biden and those i mentioned joe biden and those moments, did you find that was difficult to watch at times? you know, when i watch these things, like many people in politics, you kind of watch it with two screens. one is on social media and watching other people's responses as well as watching what is going on actually. there were a lot of people who were concerned with the inability to really

understand the current president very clearly. and i think we will see how this goes, as the days go on and people analyse the election. but i think there were equally as many concerns about some of the falsehoods by the former president, as well as his unwillingness to say he would accept the outcome of the next election. ~ . , accept the outcome of the next election. ~ ., , i. accept the outcome of the next election. ~ . , i. , election. what is your first thought. _ election. what is your first thought, rodney, - election. what is your first thought, rodney, on - election. what is your first thought, rodney, on the l election. what is your first i thought, rodney, on the last hour and a half? the contrast was clear- — hour and a half? the contrast was clear. it _ hour and a half? the contrast was clear. it was _ hour and a half? the contrast was clear. it was a _ hour and a half? the contrast was clear. it was a clear- hour and a half? the contrast was clear. it was a clear win i was clear. it was a clear win for president trump. i think he solidified — for president trump. i think he solidified his position as the frontrunner this race. as a matter— frontrunner this race. as a matter of— frontrunner this race. as a matter of fact, when we talk about — matter of fact, when we talk about fact checking the debate, how do — about fact checking the debate, how do you fact check someone whojust — how do you fact check someone whojust doesn't make sense? is that considered a lie or is it considered accurate? how do you

do that? — considered accurate? how do you do that? that is exactly what the world witnessed today. it was a — the world witnessed today. it was a disastrous debate for president biden. i will give him — president biden. i will give him credit, he got better as the night _ him credit, he got better as the night went on. i don't know why. _ the night went on. idon't know why. but— the night went on. i don't know why, but he did. in the end, if you— why, but he did. in the end, if you look— why, but he did. in the end, if you look at— why, but he did. in the end, if you look at the initial debate performance, it was one of the most _ performance, it was one of the most disastrous at a presidential level, let alone a congressional level. millions more — congressional level. millions more americans witnessed it. president _ more americans witnessed it. president trump, he did execute discipline. — president trump, he did execute discipline, which is something that we — discipline, which is something that we as republicans are not used _ that we as republicans are not used to — that we as republicans are not used to. and i agree with stephanie, the format actually helbed — stephanie, the format actually helped president trump. i think cnn thought, if we cut off his mic, _ cnn thought, if we cut off his mic, it's — cnn thought, if we cut off his mic, it's going to make sure we don't _ mic, it's going to make sure we don't allow— mic, it's going to make sure we don't allow him to interrupt president biden. they should have — president biden. they should have let _ president biden. they should have let it happen, that would

have _ have let it happen, that would have made people believe the perception that president biden was putting forward that donald trump _ was putting forward that donald trump is — was putting forward that donald trump is too unstable to be president. unfortunately for him, _ president. unfortunately for him. and _ president. unfortunately for him, and for democrats across america. — him, and for democrats across america, the format cnn put forward — america, the format cnn put forward did help president trump, _ forward did help president trump, and i believe he is the clear— trump, and i believe he is the clear frontrunner after tonight. clear frontrunner after tonight-— clear frontrunner after toniaht. ,. , , tonight. 0k, we will discuss the format _ tonight. 0k, we will discuss the format in _ tonight. 0k, we will discuss the format in more - tonight. 0k, we will discuss the format in more detail. the format in more detail later, because you have both raised the point there about how there wasn't really any live fact checking, the moderators were just asking questions and moving on to the next question. that benefited both candidates at different times. a lot of discussion about foreign policy, as we were expecting to see, specifically the war in the middle east was a prominent topic, alongside russia and ukraine as well. particularly aboutjoe biden's handling of israel's war in gaza, which has been met with criticism by

supporters in his own party of course. he reiterated his strong support of israel while defending the limits he has attempted to impose on it. but donald trump said it was time to finish thejob. donald trump said it was time to finish the job. the donald trump said it was time to finish the job.— to finish the “ob. the only one who wants — to finish the job. the only one who wants the _ to finish the job. the only one who wants the war _ to finish the job. the only one who wants the war to - to finish the job. the only one| who wants the war to continue is hamas, number one. we are still pushing hard to get them to accept. in the meantime, what happened? the only thing i have denied israel was 2000 lbs bombs, they don't work very well in populated areas, they kill a lot of innocent people. he said the only one who wants to keep — he said the only one who wants to keep going is hamas, actually israel is the one, and you should let them finish the job _ you should let them finish the job he — you should let them finish the job. he has become like a palestinian, but they don't like — palestinian, but they don't like him _ palestinian, but they don't like him because he is a very bad — like him because he is a very bad palestinian, he is a weak one~ — bad palestinian, he is a weak one. ., one. running me from washington, _ one. running me from washington, the - one. running me from | washington, the former assistant secretary of defence during the biden administration. what did you make of what both candidates said during the debate about how they would handle the situation in the middle east?

good evening, we heard two pretty different visions of how to deal with the middle east. some president biden, we heard his outline of the plan, how to end the war between israel and hamas. we also heard him outline how he has worked to support israel, including after iran's historic attack. frankly we had much less of a plan from president trump, slightlyjust president trump, slightly just a president trump, slightlyjust a desire to let israel do whatever it wants. and he was noticeably noncommittal on supporting the establishment of a palestinian state. did supporting the establishment of a palestinian state.— a palestinian state. did it rive a palestinian state. did it give you _ a palestinian state. did it give you any _ a palestinian state. did it give you any indication i a palestinian state. did itj give you any indication as a palestinian state. did it i give you any indication as to how either candidate would potentially approach policy, should they be elected in november? 1 should they be elected in november?— should they be elected in november? ~ ~ . november? i think it did. what we have seen _ november? i think it did. what we have seen with _ november? i think it did. what we have seen with president i we have seen with president biden has been this real effort to try to convene different countries around the middle east, working closely with european allies as well, to try

to contain the conflict in the middle east and then to try to find ways for it to end. the impression i think we got from president trump was probably a more hands—off approach, one in which it would reallyjust be israel doing anything it likes, and potentially a conflict continuing because i can't imagine we would see the sort of shuttle diplomacy that president biden's administration has had as a hallmark. administration has had as a hallmark-— administration has had as a hallmark. , ., , hallmark. given how tight this presidential _ hallmark. given how tight this presidential contest _ hallmark. given how tight this presidential contest is - hallmark. given how tight this presidential contest is this i presidential contest is this year, and how it will come down to those battleground states, of which michigan is one, home to the largest muslim population in this country, would you have expected president biden to speak directly to the people in his own party who are not happy with how he is handling gaza,

humanitarian aid and so on? we have seen _ humanitarian aid and so on? we have seen a _ humanitarian aid and so on? - have seen a lot of effort by president biden to deal with the substantial humanitarian challenges throughout this conflict. i think the debate format probably precluded getting deeper into this topic. we have seen a lot of effort by both the biden administration and a number of us allies and partners around the world on that front as well. in partners around the world on that front as well.— partners around the world on that front as well. in terms of how the rest _ that front as well. in terms of how the rest of _ that front as well. in terms of how the rest of the _ that front as well. in terms of how the rest of the world i that front as well. in terms ofj how the rest of the world who have an interest in middle eastern affairs were looking into this debate, how do you think they would react to what they heard from both candidates?- they heard from both candidates? ., . , candidates? one of the really interesting — candidates? one of the really interesting things _ candidates? one of the really interesting things we - candidates? one of the really interesting things we heard i candidates? one of the really| interesting things we heard in this debate, and that was beyond the middle east, we heard it in the conversations on ukraine as well, for example, hasjust been on ukraine as well, for example, has just been this real question of how much the united states should work with and collaborate with and try to convene other countries around the world to deal with challenges. i think you heard

president biden talk about bringing together more than 50 countries to help support ukraine as an example. you also heard him mention that when it historically attacked israel about two months ago with hundreds of drones and missiles, a number of countries worked together across different regions to repel i think something like 99% of that attack. so i think that was a real theme we were hearing some president biden. i think that is really not what we were hearing from president trump. it was more of a kind of go it alone approach.— trump. it was more of a kind of go it alone approach. thanks so much for speaking _ go it alone approach. thanks so much for speaking to _ go it alone approach. thanks so much for speaking to us - go it alone approach. thanks so much for speaking to us on i go it alone approach. thanks so much for speaking to us on bbcj much for speaking to us on bbc news. you might have noticed things have got a little noisier behind me, because with the debate ended, everyone has come out from the watch parties

where they were watching joe biden and donald trump debate each other. now telling us how they think their respective candidates got on. let's get the republican perspective with eric schmidt, the junior the republican perspective with eric schmidt, thejunior us senatorfrom missouri. you were one of the individuals who was prepping donald trump before this debate, you had a recent meeting with him, talking him through some policies, did everything go how you hoped it would tonight?— would tonight? better than exoected. _ would tonight? better than expected, honestly. i would tonight? better than i expected, honestly. president trump is very good on his feet, he knows the issues, but i couldn't have anticipated a better performance. i think he did great, i thinkjoe biden was terrible. i say this as an american, i take no pleasure, he went from looking confused to not being able to understand what he was saying... ijust can't imagine a worse performance byjoe biden. i think as a country, we have to have this collective decision to take the keys away from joe

biden, it is not helpful, it's dangerous. biden, it is not helpful, it's dangerous-— biden, it is not helpful, it's dangerous. there was no live fact checking _ dangerous. there was no live fact checking going _ dangerous. there was no live fact checking going on - dangerous. there was no live fact checking going on during j fact checking going on during that debate. president trump, do you think he benefited from that, in what he was saying? no, i think as president trump says, joe biden has a penchant for lying all the time. the idea he says the economy is working, that's not what people feel when they go to the grocery store or where they are paying the mortgage, trying to buy a house. middle—class families like the one i grew up in, they are really struggling. joe biden's inflation and what we are seeing at the border, we have never seen anything like this, no country has opened up their border to 15 million people who shouldn't be here, we see crime, the terrorist threat at its highest level since 9/11. the hardest part of that in 2001 was 90% of the challenge was getting here. now these people are getting here for $10,000 to the cartels. it's a unique opportunity to compare two presidents. when you have a secure border and a

working economy, people say that. if you are talking about immigration and a secure border, it was president trump who scuttled the bill that had bipartisan support recently. i disagree. the reason that bill failed, it normalised people here illegally and created an express bill with agents outside of the court is basically giving citizenship at the border, it was a terrible bill, that's why it didn't pass. the truth is there are 10 million people here because of joe biden, we had a 45 year low in a legal immigration under trump, now we have record numbers, there is no realistic wayjoe biden can put that on anyone other than himself. what anyone other than himself. what did ou anyone other than himself. what did you think— anyone other than himself. what did you think of— anyone other than himself. what did you think of the _ anyone other than himself. what did you think of the tone - anyone other than himself. what did you think of the tone of i did you think of the tone of the debate between both men? at one point they were bickering about their golf handicaps. i about their golf handicaps. i kind of like that, i play golf with president trump and he is legitimately a good golfer. is legitimately a good golfer. is that what people tuned in to see? ., �* ., ~' that what people tuned in to see? ., �* ., .

see? no, i'm 'oking, it was a light-hearted— see? no, i'mjoking, it was a light-hearted moment. i see? no, i'mjoking, it was a i light-hearted moment. president light—hearted moment. president biden in his state of the union came across as angry, bitter, great grandfather, yelling at people to get off his lawn. i'm not sure what the democrats expected... not sure what the democrats exoected- - -_ expected... they both did exchange _ expected... they both did exchange name-calling, l expected... they both did i exchange name-calling, let's exchange name—calling, let's say, they both call each other names at times.— names at times. look, the nature of— names at times. look, the nature of debates - names at times. look, the nature of debates are i names at times. look, the nature of debates are that | names at times. look, the i nature of debates are that you go back and forth. the most important thing to take away, when you compare president trump's record, people were doing better. underjoe biden, they are not, and there is no answer for that byjoe biden and that what the race will come down to.— come down to. this is a significant _ come down to. this is a significant moment, i come down to. this is a| significant moment, the come down to. this is a i significant moment, the first time they have come together, earlier than normally these things happen. what impact do you think voters will have taken on this? i think it was a record audience from what i am hearing. record audience from what i am hearinu. , , . . hearing. president trump had a treat hearing. president trump had a great performance, _ hearing. president trump had a great performance, and - hearing. president trump had a great performance, and i i hearing. president trump had a great performance, and i think| great performance, and i think they will take that away. there is a long way between that and

november. the things that really work againstjoe biden as the incumbent, how people perceive his age and mental decline, that's not going to change. the issues at the border, every week somebody here murdered and raped here illegally... today was an important side by side. the people of our country have not had that in four years. they got to see it and the contrast was stark in addition to the records. . , . , ., ., records. there was a shout out for our records. there was a shout out for your colleague _ records. there was a shout out for your colleague rick - records. there was a shout out for your colleague rick scott i for your colleague rick scott in the middle, was that a tell all who might be the vice presidential pick? i’m all who might be the vice presidential pick? i'm not in the prediction _ presidential pick? i'm not in the prediction business, i presidential pick? i'm not in the prediction business, he| presidential pick? i'm not in i the prediction business, he has a lot of great options and i think he will make that decision relatively soon. i'm excited, i think it will be a contrast from the candidate on our side versus kamala harris was almost as unpopular asjoe biden. was almost as unpopular as joe biden. �* . , was almost as unpopular as joe biden. 1, , ., ., biden. based on how the debate went, biden. based on how the debate went. and _ biden. based on how the debate went, and the _ biden. based on how the debate went, and the new _ biden. based on how the debate went, and the new format, i biden. based on how the debate went, and the new format, and l went, and the new format, and the impact that potentially had on the flow of things, do you think there will be a second

debate? 1 think there will be a second debate? ., �* ~' debate? i don't think the democrats _ debate? i don't think the democrats would - debate? i don't think the democrats would allow l debate? i don't think the democrats would allow a debate? i don't think the - democrats would allow a second debate. i really believe the performance was that bad byjoe biden. the nonverbal gestures of him staring out into space... i don't take any pleasure in saying this, but the mental decline is real and it was on full display in front of the country and the world. personally i don't think they would allow another debate but we will see. would allow another debate but we will see-— we will see. there were two questions — we will see. there were two questions posed _ we will see. there were two questions posed to - we will see. there were two questions posed to donald i we will see. there were two i questions posed to donald trump that he didn't answer in particular, and he was given a second opportunity in particular about whether he would accept the election results. i think he did, he said, look, if it is a fair and free election, of course. he said that — free election, of course. he said that two _ free election, of course. he said that two or— free election, of course. he: said that two or three times. the other question he was asked was about january the 6th, and whether he would denounce those people, and he wouldn't answer. i think he said previously he would consider them all one by one. i think again... joe biden trying to take one afternoon

and try to distract the american people from three and a half years of his disastrous presidency. brute a half years of his disastrous presidency-— presidency. we will have to leave it there, _ presidency. we will have to leave it there, thanks i presidency. we will have to leave it there, thanks so i presidency. we will have to i leave it there, thanks so much forjoining us on bbc news. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news, stay tuned for more coverage from the cnn presidential debate. to our panel, joined by former members of congress. you heard from senator schmidt from missouri that he didn't think there would be a second debate and the democratic party won't want one. what is your view? 1 won't want one. what is your view? ~ . won't want one. what is your view? ,, . .. view? i think what the campaign wanted out _ view? i think what the campaign wanted out of _ view? i think what the campaign wanted out of this _ view? i think what the campaign wanted out of this debate, i view? i think what the campaign wanted out of this debate, they | wanted out of this debate, they probably came up short. i think they wanted to highlight and contrast against trump, and they had hoped he would be undisciplined on the debate stage. forthe undisciplined on the debate

stage. for the most part, given the format, he was pretty disciplined. the hope was that they would be able to consolidate their base and put to bed the concerns people had about the current president's age and ability to do this. i'm not sure the performance tonight was strong enough to do that. already there are conversations about potentially an open convention. sol conversations about potentially an open convention. so i think tonight's debate set back the president notjust tonight's debate set back the president not just with tonight's debate set back the president notjust with the broader american public but may be with his own democratic party. in the next few days, we will see how that manifests, but i think the campaign didn't achieve what they sought to do when moving the debate up and setting the rules of the way they did. so they are going to have to deal with the aftermath of that. �* , ., have to deal with the aftermath of that. . , ., , . of that. and 'ust to explain, when you _ of that. and just to explain, when you are _ of that. and just to explain, when you are talking, i of that. and just to explain, when you are talking, to i when you are talking, to listeners who may not know what you mean by that, when you talk

about conversations about an open convention, you are talking about replacing joe biden as the democratic presidential nominee? that is what ou presidential nominee? that is what you are _ presidential nominee? that is what you are seeing - presidential nominee? that is what you are seeing on i presidential nominee? that is what you are seeing on social| what you are seeing on social media as well as in initial commentary. i don't know if that goes away, i think there is always... and how the campaign will put those comments down and try to paper over that, comments down and try to paper overthat, but comments down and try to paper over that, but i think it's something they are going to have to deal with. because you are already seeing it. keep in mind, on twitter or x, are already seeing it. keep in mind, on twitter orx, it are already seeing it. keep in mind, on twitter or x, it is a fairly liberal crowd that uses that. the conversations throughout this debate wasn't good. throughout this debate wasn't wood. ~ . �* , throughout this debate wasn't woodr ., �*, throughout this debate wasn't ioodr ., �*, good. what's your view, if there is — good. what's your view, if there is a _ good. what's your view, if there is a move _ good. what's your view, if there is a move within i good. what's your view, if there is a move within the j there is a move within the democratic party replace the president as their guy to run this year?— president as their guy to run this ear? , .,' . . this year? first off, i watched this year? first off, i watched this debate _ this year? first off, i watched this debate with _ this year? first off, i watched this debate with about - this year? first off, i watched this debate with about 30 i this debate with about 30

former— this debate with about 30 former republican colleagues. and they are giddy. i cannot imagine _ and they are giddy. i cannot imagine the text? my friend stephanie would have been getting from her former democratic colleagues during this debate. —— the texts my friend — this debate. —— the texts my friend stephanie would have been — friend stephanie would have been getting. it's very difficult to replace someone on the ballot this rate in the game _ the ballot this rate in the game. too many things can go wrong — game. too many things can go wrong. coupled with the fact that — wrong. coupled with the fact that the _ wrong. coupled with the fact that the process itself denies capability to the replacement. they— capability to the replacement. they are — capability to the replacement. they are not going to pass up kamala — they are not going to pass up kamala harris to replace him, because — kamala harris to replace him, because she is the first ever female _ because she is the first ever female african—american vice president our country has ever had _ had. inaudible. if they kick out joe biden, kamala _

if they kick out joe biden, kamala harris has worse poll numbers— kamala harris has worse poll numbers thanjoe biden. it is a conundrum _ numbers thanjoe biden. it is a conundrum democrats have put themselves in, and frankly, joe biden, — themselves in, and frankly, joe biden, because of his performance tonight... ok, sor , performance tonight... ok, sorry. we — performance tonight... ok, sorry, we will— performance tonight... ok, sorry, we will get _ performance tonight... ok, sorry, we will get into i performance tonight... ii, sorry, we will get into this later in the show, because we have a lot to discuss, but we have a lot to discuss, but we have to leave it for the moment. live from atalanta, this is bbc news. us presidentjoe biden and former president donald trump have hitout in a contentious televised cnn debate, the first of the 2024 election in this battleground state of georgia. the rivals accused one another of lying on issues including immigration, abortion and foreign policy. donald trump repeatedly attacked joe biden on the economy and his foreign policy record. joe biden took

aim at his opponent's criminal conviction and attempts to overturn the 2020 election. let's recap on what we have been watching tonight. i am joined by our senior north america correspondent gary o'donoghue. we talked about how high the stakes were and what a moment this would be in the campaign. it moment this would be in the campaign-— moment this would be in the camain. ~' ., campaign. it kind of delivered! it did, i'm _ campaign. it kind of delivered! it did, i'm not _ campaign. it kind of delivered! it did, i'm not sure _ campaign. it kind of delivered! it did, i'm not sure this - campaign. it kind of delivered! it did, i'm not sure this will i it did, i'm not sure this will have changed much for the committed, but they are not really talking to the committed, but the small number of undecided voters in key swing states, six or seven who will decide the november election. what we saw were fairly well worn attacks and well worn insults. i think what well worn insults. i think what we learned tonight, we already knew they don't like one another, but there wasn't very much about the future. this was an analysis, a dissection of the past, the pass presidency, ofjoe biden up till now and donald trump's first term in office. i'm not sure the public

will have learned much about what these men plan to