and with me tonight is my panel, chris morris — former the bbc reality check editor, now ceo of full fact and anna mikhailova, deputy political editor at the mail on sunday. first — the latest headlines. president biden has come out fighting after his faltering performance during last night's us presidential debate telling supporters in north carolina �*i intend to win this election�*. at times during his debate with donald trump, president biden — who's 81 — had difficulty in completing his sentences. ukrainian officials say one person has been killed and at least nine others injured when a russian missile struck an apartment block in the city of dnipro. the attack caused the collapse of the top floors of the nine— storey building. rescuers are at the scene. france is preparing to hold the first round of snap elections this weekend, with the hard right predicted to take first place. the french president, emmanuel macron, has warned that

support for "extreme" parties on the right or left, threatens to plunge the country into civil war. taking it straight over to taking it straight over to donald taking it straight over to donald trump, addressing a rally in virginia at the moment. let's listen in. �* , . , ., virginia at the moment. let's listen in. �*, ., ., virginia at the moment. let's listen in. it's really not a great idea... as every _ in. it's really not a great idea... as every american _ in. it's really not a great idea... as every american saw - in. it's really not a great idea... as every american saw first - in. it's really not a great idea... | as every american saw first hand last night, — as every american saw first hand last night, this _ as every american saw first hand last night, this election- as every american saw first hand last night, this election is- as every american saw first hand last night, this election is a - last night, this election is a choice _ last night, this election is a choice between _ last night, this election is a choice between strength i last night, this election is a. choice between strength and weakness. _ choice between strength and weakness, competence - choice between strength and weakness, competence and i weakness, competence and incompetence, _ weakness, competence and incompetence, peace - weakness, competence and incompetence, peace and l weakness, competence and - incompetence, peace and prosperity or war— incompetence, peace and prosperity or war or— incompetence, peace and prosperity or war or no— incompetence, peace and prosperity orwar or no wan _ incompetence, peace and prosperity or war or no war. they _ incompetence, peace and prosperity or war or no war. they like - incompetence, peace and prosperity or war or no war. they like a - incompetence, peace and prosperity or war or no war. they like a war, i or war or no war. they like a war, they— or war or no war. they like a war, they love — or war or no war. they like a war, they love wars _ or war or no war. they like a war, they love wars. they _ or war or no war. they like a war, they love wars. they love - or war or no war. they like a war, they love wars. they love killing i they love wars. they love killing people — they love wars. they love killing people. it's_ they love wars. they love killing people. it's so _ they love wars. they love killing people. it's so wonderful. - they love wars. they love killing people. it's so wonderful. you l they love wars. they love killing - people. it's so wonderful. you know, i'm the _ people. it's so wonderful. you know, i'm the only— people. it's so wonderful. you know, i'm the only president— people. it's so wonderful. you know, i'm the only president and _ people. it's so wonderful. you know, i'm the only president and many, - i'm the only president and many, many— i'm the only president and many, many decades _ i'm the only president and many, many decades that _ i'm the only president and many, many decades that didn't - i'm the only president and many, many decades that didn't start i i'm the only president and many, many decades that didn't start toi many decades that didn't start to work _ many decades that didn't start to work i_ many decades that didn't start to work. i finished _ many decades that didn't start to work. i finished one. _ many decades that didn't start to work. ifinished one. i— many decades that didn't start to work. i finished one. i beat- many decades that didn't start to work. i finished one. i beat isis l many decades that didn't start to| work. i finished one. i beat isis in record _ work. i finished one. i beat isis in record time _ work. i finished one. i beat isis in record time. as _ work. i finished one. i beat isis in record time. as soon _ work. i finished one. i beat isis in record time. as soon as - work. i finished one. i beat isis in record time. as soon as i- work. i finished one. i beat isis in record time. as soon as i left, - work. i finished one. i beat isis in record time. as soon as i left, we had the _ record time. as soon as i left, we had the situation _

record time. as soon as i left, we had the situation where _ record time. as soon as i left, we had the situation where russia i had the situation where russia went into ukraine — had the situation where russia went into ukraine. they— had the situation where russia went into ukraine. they would've - had the situation where russia went into ukraine. they would've never. into ukraine. they would've never done _ into ukraine. they would've never done that — into ukraine. they would've never done that and _ into ukraine. they would've never done that. and where _ into ukraine. they would've never done that. and where israel- into ukraine. they would've never done that. and where israel is- done that. and where israel is attacked — done that. and where israel is attacked and _ done that. and where israel is attacked and then _ done that. and where israel is attacked and then we - done that. and where israel is attacked and then we had - done that. and where israel is- attacked and then we had inflation. and then _ attacked and then we had inflation. and then we — attacked and then we had inflation. and then we had _ attacked and then we had inflation. and then we had that _ attacked and then we had inflation. and then we had that horrible, - and then we had that horrible, horrible — and then we had that horrible, horrible event _ and then we had that horrible, horrible event that _ and then we had that horrible, horrible event that took - and then we had that horrible, horrible event that took place i and then we had that horrible, i horrible event that took place in afghanistan, _ horrible event that took place in afghanistan, the _ horrible event that took place in afghanistan, the worst - horrible event that took place in afghanistan, the worst from - horrible event that took place in afghanistan, the worst from i. horrible event that took place in i afghanistan, the worst from i think the most _ afghanistan, the worst from i think the most embarrassing _ afghanistan, the worst from i think the most embarrassing moment i afghanistan, the worst from i think the most embarrassing moment in| afghanistan, the worst from i think. the most embarrassing moment in the history— the most embarrassing moment in the history of— the most embarrassing moment in the history of our— the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country. _ the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country. and _ the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country. and it's - history of our country. and it's a choice. — history of our country. and it's a choice. though. _ history of our country. and it's a choice, though, between- history of our country. and it's a choice, though, between a - history of our country. and it's a - choice, though, between a president who puts _ choice, though, between a president who puts america _ choice, though, between a president who puts america first _ choice, though, between a president who puts america first or— choice, though, between a president who puts america first or a _ choice, though, between a president who puts america first or a train - who puts america first or a train wreck— who puts america first or a train wreck who— who puts america first or a train wreck who puts _ who puts america first or a train wreck who puts america - who puts america first or a train wreck who puts america last. i wreck who puts america last. they put america — wreck who puts america last. they put america last. _ wreck who puts america last. they put america last. actually, - wreck who puts america last. they put america last. actually, the - put america last. actually, the democrats _ put america last. actually, the democrats put _ put america last. actually, the democrats put america - put america last. actually, the democrats put america last. . put america last. actually, the . democrats put america last. you put america last. actually, the - democrats put america last. you take a look _ democrats put america last. you take a look at _ democrats put america last. you take a look at that — democrats put america last. you take a look at that. look— democrats put america last. you take a look at that. look at a _ democrats put america last. you take a look at that. look at a guy - democrats put america last. you take a look at that. look at a guy like - a look at that. look at a guy like sehator— a look at that. look at a guy like senator schumer. _ a look at that. look at a guy like senator schumer. i've _ a look at that. look at a guy like senator schumer. i've always i a look at that. look at a guy like - senator schumer. i've always known him, _ senator schumer. i've always known him. known — senator schumer. i've always known him. known him _ senator schumer. i've always known him, known him a _ senator schumer. i've always known him, known him a long _ senator schumer. i've always known him, known him a long time. - senator schumer. i've always known him, known him a long time. i- senator schumer. i've always knowni him, known him a long time. i come from _ him, known him a long time. i come from new— him, known him a long time. i come from new york _ him, known him a long time. i come from new york. he's _ him, known him a long time. i come from new york. he's become a - from new york. he's become a palestinian _ from new york. he's become a palestinian. he's _ from new york. he's become a palestinian. he's a _ from new york. he's become a palestinian. he's a palestinianl from new york. he's become a - palestinian. he's a palestinian now. congratulations. _ palestinian. he's a palestinian now. congratulations. he _ palestinian. he's a palestinian now. congratulations. he was _ palestinian. he's a palestinian now. congratulations. he was very- palestinian. he's a palestinian now. congratulations. he was very loyal. congratulations. he was very loyal to israei— congratulations. he was very loyal to israet and — congratulations. he was very loyal to israel and to _ congratulations. he was very loyal to israel and tojewish_ congratulations. he was very loyal to israel and tojewish people. - to israel and tojewish people. he's jewish _ to israel and tojewish people. he's jewish but — to israel and tojewish people. he's jewish. but he's _ to israel and tojewish people. he's jewish. but he's become _ to israel and tojewish people. he's jewish. but he's become a - jewish. but he's become a palestinian _ jewish. but he's become a palestinian because - jewish. but he's become a palestinian because they i jewish. but he's become a - palestinian because they have a couple — palestinian because they have a coopte more _ palestinian because they have a couple more votes _ palestinian because they have a couple more votes or— palestinian because they have a. couple more votes or something. nohody's — couple more votes or something. nobody's quite _ couple more votes or something. nobody's quite figured _ couple more votes or something. nobody's quite figured it - couple more votes or something. nobody's quite figured it out. - couple more votes or something. nobody's quite figured it out. a l nobody's quite figured it out. a vote _ nobody's quite figured it out. a vote for— nobody's quite figured it out. a vote forjoe _ nobody's quite figured it out. a vote forjoe biden _ nobody's quite figured it out. a vote forjoe biden is _ nobody's quite figured it out. a vote forjoe biden is a - 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our country. a vote _ failure, surrender in disaster for our country. a vote for- failure, surrender in disaster for our country. a vote for your - our country. a vote for your alt-time — our country. a vote for your all—time favourite _ our country. a vote for yourl all—time favourite president, president _ all—time favourite president, president donald _ all—time favourite president, president donald j _ all—time favourite president, president donaldj trump. i all-time favourite president, president donald] trump. cheering is a vote president donald] trump. cheering is a vote and — president donald] trump. cheering is a vote and joe _ president donald] trump. cheering is a vote and joe biden's _ president donald] trump. cheering is a vote and joe biden's inflation, i is a vote and joe biden's inflation, stopping _ is a vote and joe biden's inflation, stopping the — is a vote and joe biden's inflation, stopping the border— is a vote and joe biden's inflation, stopping the border invasion - is a vote and joe biden's inflation, stopping the border invasion and i stopping the border invasion and very simply— stopping the border invasion and very simply making _ stopping the border invasion and very simply making america - stopping the border invasion and i very simply making america great again _ very simply making america great again it _ very simply making america great again it will— very simply making america great again. it will make _ very simply making america great again. it will make great- very simply making america great again. it will make great again. i very simply making america great i again. it will make great again. you see these _ again. it will make great again. you see these beautiful— again. it will make great again. you see these beautiful women. - again. it will make great again. you see these beautiful women. i'm - again. it will make great again. you see these beautiful women. i'm not allowed _ see these beautiful women. i'm not allowed to— see these beautiful women. i'm not allowed to use _ see these beautiful women. i'm not allowed to use the _ see these beautiful women. i'm not allowed to use the term _ see these beautiful women. i'm not allowed to use the term beautiful. see these beautiful women. i'm not| allowed to use the term beautiful as allowed to use the term beautiful as a politician, — allowed to use the term beautiful as a politician, in — allowed to use the term beautiful as a politician, in fact, _ allowed to use the term beautiful as a politician, in fact, it— allowed to use the term beautiful as a politician, in fact, it could - allowed to use the term beautiful as a politician, in fact, it could be - a politician, in fact, it could be the end — a politician, in fact, it could be the end of— a politician, in fact, it could be the end of my— a politician, in fact, it could be the end of my career. - a politician, in fact, it could be the end of my career. if- a politician, in fact, it could be the end of my career. if glenn| a politician, in fact, it could be - the end of my career. if glenn ever ran against— the end of my career. if glenn ever ran against me _ the end of my career. if glenn ever ran against me he _ the end of my career. if glenn ever ran against me he would _ the end of my career. if glenn ever ran against me he would say he - ran against me he would say he called _ ran against me he would say he called women _ ran against me he would say he called women beautiful- ran against me he would say he called women beautiful and - ran against me he would say he| called women beautiful and that could _ called women beautiful and that could be — called women beautiful and that could be the _ called women beautiful and that could be the edge _ called women beautiful and that could be the edge of— called women beautiful and that could be the edge of my- called women beautiful and that could be the edge of my career. i called women beautiful and that - could be the edge of my career. what am i could be the edge of my career. what am i going _ could be the edge of my career. what am i going to — could be the edge of my career. what am i going to do? 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they better — line. do my people treat you good? they better treat _ line. do my people treat you good? they better treat you _ line. do my people treat you good? they better treat you good. - line. do my people treat you good? they better treat you good. front . they better treat you good. front rowjoe, — they better treat you good. front rowjoe, he's— they better treat you good. front rowjoe, he's become _ they better treat you good. front rowjoe, he's become very- they better treat you good. front l rowjoe, he's become very famous. the question— rowjoe, he's become very famous. the question every— rowjoe, he's become very famous. the question every voter _ rowjoe, he's become very famous. the question every voter should - rowjoe, he's become very famous. the question every voter should be| the question every voter should be asking _ the question every voter should be asking themselves— the question every voter should be asking themselves today _ the question every voter should be asking themselves today it - the question every voter should be asking themselves today it is - the question every voter should be asking themselves today it is not . asking themselves today it is not whether— asking themselves today it is not whetherjoe _ asking themselves today it is not whetherjoe biden _ asking themselves today it is not whetherjoe biden can— asking themselves today it is not whetherjoe biden can survive i asking themselves today it is not whetherjoe biden can survive a. whetherjoe biden can survive a 90 minute _ whetherjoe biden can survive a 90 minute debate... _ whetherjoe biden can survive a 90 minute debate... we— whetherjoe biden can survive a 90 minute debate. . ._ whetherjoe biden can survive a 90 minute debate... we will leave that bean minute debate... we will leave that bear- donald _ minute debate... we will leave that bear. donald trump _ minute debate... we will leave that bear. donald trump addressing - minute debate... we will leave that bear. donald trump addressing his| bear. donald trump addressing his supporters in virginia after last night's tv debate. for his partjoe biden tonight came out fighting at a rally in north carolina, following last night's tv debate against donald trump which triggered panic among in the last couple

of hours, mr biden took to the stage in, mr biden told the audience he intends to win the presidential election in november. i know i'm not a young i know i'm nota young man... i know. i know i'm not a young man... i know. . folks... i don't walk as easy as i used to. i don't speak as smoothly as i used to. i don't debate as well as i used to. i don't debate as well as i use to. but i know what i do know, i know how to tell the truth! i know right from wrong! and i know how to do this job. i know how to

get things done. and i know like millions of americans know, when you get knocked down, you get back up. hello to both of you. thank you very much for being with me. how do you feel about things, what did you make of last night's debate? i will]! feel about things, what did you make of last night's debate?— of last night's debate? i will tell ou of last night's debate? i will tell you what. _ of last night's debate? i will tell you what. and — of last night's debate? i will tell you what, and getting _ of last night's debate? i will tell you what, and getting slight - you what, and getting slight flashbacks to four years ago when i was still at the bbc sitting and tv studios edge during the morning london time listening to the van biden— trump debates and thinking, "this is insane. how do you start to fact check this tsunami of stuff coming towards you." it's interesting listening to them again this time. it's going to be very similar. i've seen some of the american media trying to fact check every sentence, but it's really about the narrative, and trump's narrative is this is about strength versus weakness. biden's narrative,

and i notice his language was echoed by barack obama when he put out a supportive statement, this is about somebody who tells the truth against someone who just tells a pack of lies. and that is i think how both of them are trying to frame this they are both really trying to go for the middle ground. american politics is so divided know that the voters that really count, as always, are those in the centre. i think what biden is trying to do is say, look, in the end, do you want somebody who tells the truth or somebody who tells the truth or somebody who you cannot trust? talk we talked about trust in politics, but in america it's on turbocharger. tell me what your thoughts are on all of this. i mean everybody is talking about president biden and his delivery, aren't they? whatever the substance was and whatever they were saying, the fallout has been all about how he said it. absolutely. and i think the frustrating thing for a lot of

democrats and people who are really hoping _ democrats and people who are really hoping that this debate may shift the diat— hoping that this debate may shift the diet a — hoping that this debate may shift the dial a little bit for president biden— the dial a little bit for president biden is— the dial a little bit for president biden is that he failed to challenge donald _ biden is that he failed to challenge donald trump on so many things. i mean, _ donald trump on so many things. i mean, donald trump was coming up with many. — mean, donald trump was coming up with many, many things that were factuatty— with many, many things that were factually incorrect or open to proper— factually incorrect or open to proper scrutiny, and yet president biden— proper scrutiny, and yet president bideniust — proper scrutiny, and yet president bidenjust didn't do it. and even the fact— bidenjust didn't do it. and even the fact that, for me, what struck me was_ the fact that, for me, what struck me was how— the fact that, for me, what struck me was how few times he actually mentioned donald trump's recent conviction — mentioned donald trump's recent conviction. it sort of extraordinary. you would think that is something he would be able to reatiy— is something he would be able to reatty go — is something he would be able to really go after and land a couple of blows _ really go after and land a couple of blows you — really go after and land a couple of blows. you he barely mentioned it. and i— blows. you he barely mentioned it. and i think— blows. you he barely mentioned it. and i think what has really happened is president, a second trump presidency has become a lot more tikety— presidency has become a lot more likely and — presidency has become a lot more likely and around the world, people are going _ likely and around the world, people are going to have to adapt to the geopolitical reality of that. i mean. — geopolitical reality of that. i mean, tonight i thought it was quite

tetting _ mean, tonight i thought it was quite telling that liam fox when asked about _ telling that liam fox when asked about this, the former british home secretary. _ about this, the former british home secretary, defence secretary, said that you _ secretary, defence secretary, said that you have to understand, it is notjust_ that you have to understand, it is notjust the — that you have to understand, it is notjust the american that you have to understand, it is not just the american public watching that debate, it is going to be iran, _ watching that debate, it is going to be iran, north korea, russia, and i think— be iran, north korea, russia, and i think that _ be iran, north korea, russia, and i think that is — be iran, north korea, russia, and i think that is really sharpening minds — think that is really sharpening minds. and certainly, you know, you've _ minds. and certainly, you know, you've got — minds. and certainly, you know, you've got a _ minds. and certainly, you know, you've got a lot of anonymous points already— you've got a lot of anonymous points already in— you've got a lot of anonymous points already in the american press from democrats — already in the american press from democrats questioning whether or not biden is— democrats questioning whether or not biden is the right person to go into the election. it is really extraordinary unprecedented time stop what they're doing it publicly as wett _ stop what they're doing it publicly as well. it's notjust stop what they're doing it publicly as well. it's not just the anonymous. let's have a listen to donald _ anonymous. let's have a listen to donald trump because he is still talking — hundreds of millions of dollars, hundreds— hundreds of millions of dollars, hundreds of— hundreds of millions of dollars, hundreds of millions _ hundreds of millions of dollars, hundreds of millions of - hundreds of millions of dollars, hundreds of millions of dollars, | hundreds of millions of dollars, they— hundreds of millions of dollars, they respected _ hundreds of millions of dollars, they respected our— hundreds of millions of dollars, they respected our country, - hundreds of millions of dollars, . they respected our country, thank you very— they respected our country, thank you very much, _ they respected our country, thank you very much, they— they respected our country, thank you very much, they said, - they respected our country, thank you very much, they said, stand l they respected our country, thank. you very much, they said, stand up please, _ you very much, they said, stand up please, who— you very much, they said, stand up please, who said _ you very much, they said, stand up please, who said that? _ you very much, they said, stand up please, who said that? stand - you very much, they said, stand up please, who said that? stand up. because — please, who said that? stand up. because they _ please, who said that? stand up. because they respected - please, who said that? stand up. because they respected us! - please, who said that? stand up. because they respected us! you. please, who said that? stand up. . because they respected us! you said it's better—

because they respected us! you said it's better than — because they respected us! you said it's better than i _ because they respected us! you said it's better than i could. _ because they respected us! you said it's better than i could. thank- because they respected us! you said it's better than i could. thank you. l it's better than i could. thank you. i it's better than i could. thank you. i btagiarised — it's better than i could. thank you. iplagiarised. thank— it's better than i could. thank you. i plagiarised. thank you. _ it's better than i could. thank you. i plagiarised. thank you. they- i plagiarised. thank you. they respect — i plagiarised. thank you. they respect us~ _ i plagiarised. thank you. they respect us. there _ i plagiarised. thank you. they respect us. there were - i plagiarised. thank you. they respect us. there were no- i plagiarised. thank you. they- respect us. there were no games. but we have _ respect us. there were no games. but we have the — respect us. there were no games. but we have the enemy— respect us. there were no games. but we have the enemy on— respect us. there were no games. but we have the enemy on the _ respect us. there were no games. but we have the enemy on the outside - respect us. there were no games. but| we have the enemy on the outside and you can _ we have the enemy on the outside and you can do _ we have the enemy on the outside and you can do great — we have the enemy on the outside and you can do great things _ we have the enemy on the outside and you can do great things with them. - you can do great things with them. and then _ you can do great things with them. and then we — you can do great things with them. and then we have _ you can do great things with them. and then we have a _ you can do great things with them. and then we have a worse - you can do great things with them. and then we have a worse enemy. | you can do great things with them. i and then we have a worse enemy. i called _ and then we have a worse enemy. i called the _ and then we have a worse enemy. i called the enemy _ and then we have a worse enemy. i called the enemy from _ and then we have a worse enemy. i called the enemy from within. - and then we have a worse enemy. i l called the enemy from within. these are the _ called the enemy from within. these are the sick— called the enemy from within. these are the sick people, _ called the enemy from within. these are the sick people, the _ called the enemy from within. these are the sick people, the socialists, l are the sick people, the socialists, remember— are the sick people, the socialists, remember i — are the sick people, the socialists, remember i said _ are the sick people, the socialists, remember i said to _ are the sick people, the socialists, remember i said to america - are the sick people, the socialists, remember i said to america will. remember i said to america will never— remember i said to america will never be — remember i said to america will never be a — remember i said to america will never be a socialist _ remember i said to america will never be a socialist country. - remember i said to america will never be a socialist country. i l remember i said to america will. never be a socialist country. i was right _ never be a socialist country. i was right i _ never be a socialist country. i was right i was — never be a socialist country. i was right i was right _ never be a socialist country. i was right. i was right. it _ never be a socialist country. i was right. i was right. it skipped - never be a socialist country. i was right. i was right. it skipped overi right. i was right. it skipped over sociatism — right. i was right. it skipped over socialism and _ right. i was right. it skipped over socialism and went _ right. i was right. it skipped over socialism and went directly - right. i was right. it skipped over socialism and went directly into i socialism and went directly into fascism — socialism and went directly into fascism and _ socialism and went directly into fascism and communism. - socialism and went directly into fascism and communism. it - socialism and went directly into . fascism and communism. it never stopped _ fascism and communism. it never stopped at — fascism and communism. it never stopped at the _ fascism and communism. it never stopped at the station _ fascism and communism. it never stopped at the station called - stopped at the station called sociatism~ _ stopped at the station called socialism. it _ stopped at the station called socialism. it went _ stopped at the station called socialism. it went worse - stopped at the station called socialism. it went worse andj stopped at the station called - socialism. it went worse and that is a big problem — socialism. it went worse and that is a big problem that _ socialism. it went worse and that is a big problem that we _ socialism. it went worse and that is a big problem that we have. - socialism. it went worse and that is a big problem that we have. but i l a big problem that we have. but i think— a big problem that we have. but i think we — a big problem that we have. but i think we are _ a big problem that we have. but i think we are starting _ a big problem that we have. but i think we are starting to— a big problem that we have. but i think we are starting to see - a big problem that we have. but i think we are starting to see the l a big problem that we have. but i . think we are starting to see the end of that, _ think we are starting to see the end of that, and — think we are starting to see the end ofthat, and it— think we are starting to see the end of that, and it has _ think we are starting to see the end of that, and it has been _ think we are starting to see the end of that, and it has been starting - of that, and it has been starting for a _ of that, and it has been starting for a white — of that, and it has been starting for a while now— of that, and it has been starting for a while now with _ of that, and it has been starting for a while now with us. - of that, and it has been starting for a while now with us. but - of that, and it has been starting for a while now with us. but i. for a while now with us. but i think~~~ — for a while now with us. but i think... . , ,, .~ think... donald trump speaking in vir: inia. think... donald trump speaking in virginia- you _ think... donald trump speaking in virginia. you can _ think... donald trump speaking in virginia. you can watch _ think... donald trump speaking in virginia. you can watch and - think... donald trump speaking in virginia. you can watch and follow it live via our website. around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news.

returning our attention to the election here in the uk. reform uk's nigel farage and the green party co—leader adrian ramsay have just finished facing a live audience in bbc�*s question time. mr ramsey was asked about transport infrastructure, immigration and what sacrifices people would have to make to meet his party's pledges. but, it was mr farage who spent the first ten minutes of his appearance answering questions about the views of his candidates. one person asked him why his party "attracts racists and exremists". here's what they both had to say. i'v e i've done more to drive the far right out of british politics than anybody else alive.— anybody else alive. laughter it took them _ anybody else alive. laughter it took them on _ anybody else alive. laughter it took them on over _ anybody else alive. laughter it took them on over a - anybody else alive. laughter it took them on over a decade | anybody else alive. laughter - it took them on over a decade ago and said to the voters if this is a protest vote, you don't support their racist agenda, don't vote for them, vote for me and we destroyed them. i have never allowed and parties have led anybody who was even a member of an extremist organisation tojoin our even a member of an extremist organisation to join our party. what happened over the last weekend was

truly astonishing, a tirade of abuse directed at the prime minister, the whole thing was unbelievable. it didn't ring true, so i checked it out. it turns out the men that did this is an actor. let me promise you... this is an actor. let me promise ou... this is an actor. let me promise ou. . . ,, ., ., this is an actor. let me promise ou... ., ., ~ ., you... so who do you think would have done _ you... so who do you think would have done this? _ you... so who do you think would have done this? i _ you... so who do you think would have done this? i want _ you... so who do you think would have done this? i want nothing i you... so who do you think wouldj have done this? i want nothing to you... so who do you think would i have done this? i want nothing to do with people — have done this? i want nothing to do with people like _ have done this? i want nothing to do with people like him _ have done this? i want nothing to do with people like him and _ have done this? i want nothing to do with people like him and he has - with people like him and he has nothing to do with us. he somebody who turned up, we didn't know who he was sent by sheer coincidence happened to get teamed up with channel for who he had worked for in the past. i'm sorry.— the past. i'm sorry. these are still our the past. i'm sorry. these are still your candidates. _ the past. i'm sorry. these are still your candidates. i _ the past. i'm sorry. these are still your candidates. i didn't _ the past. i'm sorry. these are still your candidates. i didn't know. - the past. i'm sorry. these are still your candidates. i didn't know. as| your candidates. i didn't know. as ou 'ust your candidates. i didn't know. as you just went _ your candidates. i didn't know. as you just went through _ your candidates. i didn't know. as you just went through with - your candidates. i didn't know. as you just went through with the - you just went through with the greens, every party has problems in a snap election. we paid, i organised a professional london betting company, paid them £14a,000 up betting company, paid them £14a,000 up front to back our candidates, they didn't do it. now, i think this was the first of a series of the establishment �*s not wanting us to

do well and i'm afraid i'm seeing it from the russia hoechst to what happened with this guy yesterday. yes, we do talk about people who gain a work permit being able to bring their spouses with them. i think that's absolutely right and humane that — think that's absolutely right and humane that people should be able to do that _ humane that people should be able to do that. we have always benefited from people coming to the uk, benefited economically... applause we benefit economically, _ benefited economically... applause we benefit economically, we - benefited economically... applause we benefit economically, we benefit| we benefit economically, we benefit socially _ we benefit economically, we benefit socially. i'm sure we all know what people _ socially. i'm sure we all know what peopte who — socially. i'm sure we all know what people who come to the uk to support us and _ people who come to the uk to support us and only— people who come to the uk to support us and only have to listen to the horrific— us and only have to listen to the horrific comments that were exposed on channet— horrific comments that were exposed on channel 4 last night of people immediately around nigel farage to remind _ immediately around nigel farage to remind ourselves ofjust what a stark— remind ourselves ofjust what a stark future we could be heading in if people _ stark future we could be heading in if people back him and reform. it absolutely — if people back him and reform. it absolutely shouldn't be the case that it _ absolutely shouldn't be the case that it is — absolutely shouldn't be the case that it is more expensive to get the train, _ that it is more expensive to get the train, often— that it is more expensive to get the train, often substantially more expensive to get the train within the uk _ expensive to get the train within the uk than it is to get a flight and the — the uk than it is to get a flight and the flight is several times more

environmentally damaging. i think most _ environmentally damaging. i think most people want to do the greener option. _ most people want to do the greener option. but— most people want to do the greener option, but the greener option has -ot option, but the greener option has got to— option, but the greener option has got to be _ option, but the greener option has got to be the cheaper and more convenient option as well. channel 4 said in a statement: "we strongly stand by our rigorous and duly impartialjournalism which speaks for itself. we met mr parkerfor the first time at reform uk party headquarters, where he was a reform party canvasser. we did not pay the reform uk canvasser or anyone else in this report. mr parker was not known to channel 4 news and was filmed covertly via the undercover operation. " you can see a full list of all the candidates standing in the clacton constituency, and it's also on the bbc news website. let's cross now to our political correspondent hannah miller who's in the leaders' spin room for us tonight. a few people with you, so i will hand it straight to you.- a few people with you, so i will hand it straight to you. yes, two different parties _ hand it straight to you. yes, two different parties with _ hand it straight to you. yes, two different parties with very - different parties with very different parties with very different views on tonight, smaller parties, quite a big platform for

them to get their messages across and i amjoined by them to get their messages across and i am joined by natalie bennett of the green party and david both from reform uk. thank you both for being here with us in the spin room. i'm going to rescue the easy question first of all, we will start with natalie. what did you make of it, how do you think adrian performed?— it, how do you think adrian erformed? , . , ., . ., performed? this was a programme of two halves- — performed? this was a programme of two halves. what _ performed? this was a programme of two halves. what we _ performed? this was a programme of two halves. what we heard _ performed? this was a programme of two halves. what we heard from - two halves. what we heard from adrian _ two halves. what we heard from adrian was — two halves. what we heard from adrian was a positive vision of a hopeful— adrian was a positive vision of a hopeful future in which we defend and repair— hopeful future in which we defend and repair our nhs in which we tackle — and repair our nhs in which we tackle both the climate crisis and the cost — tackle both the climate crisis and the cost of — tackle both the climate crisis and the cost of living crisis with measures that make people's lives better— measures that make people's lives better and — measures that make people's lives better and cut our carbon emissions. and then _ better and cut our carbon emissions. and then in — better and cut our carbon emissions. and then in the second half i have to say— and then in the second half i have to say is— and then in the second half i have to say is an — and then in the second half i have to say is an immigrant myself to the uk, i— to say is an immigrant myself to the uk, i felt _ to say is an immigrant myself to the uk, i felt nauseous. there was a torrent— uk, i felt nauseous. there was a torrent of— uk, i felt nauseous. there was a torrent of bio of nastiness, of fear of conspiracy theories and i think we saw— of conspiracy theories and i think we saw the — of conspiracy theories and i think we saw the audience being quite shocked — we saw the audience being quite shocked they are in the room and we really— shocked they are in the room and we really saw— shocked they are in the room and we really saw very clearly that there are two — really saw very clearly that there are two ends of british politics and where _ are two ends of british politics and where the — are two ends of british politics and where the politics of hope and the other— where the politics of hope and the other end —

where the politics of hope and the other end is the politics of fear. david, — other end is the politics of fear. david, what do you say to that? i watched a different debate, didn't i? watched a different debate, didn't i? the _ watched a different debate, didn't i? the fact— watched a different debate, didn't i? the fact is— watched a different debate, didn't i? the fact is it's _ watched a different debate, didn't i? the fact is it's tough _ i? the fact is it's tough questioning. _ i? the fact is it's tough questioning. i- i? the fact is it's tough questioning. i would i i? the fact is it's tough - questioning. i would expect i? the fact is it's tough _ questioning. i would expect tough questioning — questioning. i would expect tough questioning from _ questioning. ! would expect tough questioning from nigel— questioning. i would expect tough questioning from nigel but - questioning. i would expect tough questioning from nigel but he - questioning. i would expect tough i questioning from nigel but he meets several— questioning from nigel but he meets several important _ questioning from nigel but he meets several important points _ questioning from nigel but he meets several important points and - questioning from nigel but he meets several important points and the - several important points and the audience — several important points and the audience was _ several important points and the audience was tough, _ several important points and the audience was tough, but - several important points and the audience was tough, but it's- several important points and the audience was tough, but it's a i audience was tough, but it's a metropolitan _ audience was tough, but it's a metropolitan bias— audience was tough, but it's a metropolitan bias because - audience was tough, but it's a metropolitan bias because wej audience was tough, but it's a - metropolitan bias because we are in birmingham. — metropolitan bias because we are in birmingham. but— metropolitan bias because we are in birmingham, but when _ metropolitan bias because we are in birmingham, but when we - metropolitan bias because we are in birmingham, but when we go - metropolitan bias because we are in| birmingham, but when we go around the country. — birmingham, but when we go around the country. in — birmingham, but when we go around the country, in sunderland _ birmingham, but when we go around the country, in sunderland we - birmingham, but when we go around the country, in sunderland we have i birmingham, but when we go around j the country, in sunderland we have a thousand _ the country, in sunderland we have a thousand people _ the country, in sunderland we have a thousand people there _ the country, in sunderland we have a thousand people there in _ the country, in sunderland we have a thousand people there in our- the country, in sunderland we have a thousand people there in our big - thousand people there in our big event _ thousand people there in our big event we've _ thousand people there in our big event. we've got _ thousand people there in our big event. we've got 5000 - thousand people there in our big event. we've got 5000 coming i thousand people there in our bigi event. we've got 5000 coming to birmingham. — event. we've got 5000 coming to birmingham, and _ event. we've got 5000 coming to birmingham, and what _ event. we've got 5000 coming to birmingham, and what people - event. we've got 5000 coming to| birmingham, and what people are talking _ birmingham, and what people are talking about _ birmingham, and what people are talking about is _ birmingham, and what people are talking about is not _ birmingham, and what people are talking about is not climate - birmingham, and what people arel talking about is not climate change on the _ talking about is not climate change on the doorstep, _ talking about is not climate change on the doorstep, they— talking about is not climate change on the doorstep, they are - talking about is not climate change on the doorstep, they are talking l on the doorstep, they are talking about— on the doorstep, they are talking about immigration— on the doorstep, they are talking about immigration from - on the doorstep, they are talking about immigration from a - on the doorstep, they are talking about immigration from a they i on the doorstep, they are talking. about immigration from a they are talking _ about immigration from a they are talking about _ about immigration from a they are talking about economy, _ about immigration from a they are talking about economy, they - about immigration from a they are talking about economy, they are l talking about economy, they are talking _ talking about economy, they are talking about _ talking about economy, they are talking about doctors, _ talking about economy, they are talking about doctors, they- talking about economy, they are talking about doctors, they are i talking about doctors, they are talking — talking about doctors, they are talking about _ talking about doctors, they are talking about the _ talking about doctors, they are talking about the health - talking about doctors, they are i talking about the health service, but they— talking about the health service, but they can't _ talking about the health service, but they can't get _ talking about the health service, but they can't get an _ talking about the health service, . but they can't get an appointment. they're _ but they can't get an appointment. they're talking _ but they can't get an appointment. they're talking about _ but they can't get an appointment. they're talking about crime. - they're talking about crime. actuatty— they're talking about crime. actually come _ they're talking about crime. actually come in _ they're talking about crime. actually come in at - they're talking about crime. actually come in at zero - they're talking about crime. i actually come in at zero does they're talking about crime. - actually come in at zero does not feature _ actually come in at zero does not feature at — actually come in at zero does not feature at all _ actually come in at zero does not feature at all on _ actually come in at zero does not feature at all on the _ actually come in at zero does not feature at all on the doorstep. i actually come in at zero does not feature at all on the doorstep. [i feature at all on the doorstep. would say that we can agree feature at all on the doorstep.“ would say that we can agree on feature at all on the doorstep]- would say that we can agree on the fact that _ would say that we can agree on the fact that the state of the nhs, which — fact that the state of the nhs, which is — fact that the state of the nhs, which is what the tories have left us with— which is what the tories have left us with is— which is what the tories have left us with is very much on the doorstep _ us with is very much on the doorstep. but as adrian said in the debates. _ doorstep. but as adrian said in the debates, while you are talking about migraines _ debates, while you are talking about migraines demonising migraines... you are _ migraines demonising migraines... you are far — migraines demonising migraines... you are far more likely to be treated — you are far more likely to be treated by a migrant in the nhs as a staff member then you are to have a

migrant— staff member then you are to have a migrant in— staff member then you are to have a migrant in the queue at the nhs with you. migrant in the queue at the nhs with ou. �* . . migrant in the queue at the nhs with ou. �* , , ., , migrant in the queue at the nhs with ou. . ,~ . you. let's be really clear about this, because _ you. let's be really clear about this, because we _ you. let's be really clear about this, because we are _ you. let's be really clear about this, because we are not - you. let's be really clear about - this, because we are not demonising migrants, _ this, because we are not demonising migrants, what — this, because we are not demonising migrants, what we _ this, because we are not demonising migrants, what we are _ this, because we are not demonising migrants, what we are saying - this, because we are not demonising migrants, what we are saying is - this, because we are not demonising migrants, what we are saying is we i migrants, what we are saying is we need _ migrants, what we are saying is we need to— migrants, what we are saying is we need to have — migrants, what we are saying is we need to have net _ migrants, what we are saying is we need to have net zero _ migrants, what we are saying is we need to have net zero migration. . need to have net zero migration. this country— need to have net zero migration. this country is _ need to have net zero migration. this country is built _ need to have net zero migration. this country is built on _ need to have net zero migration. . this country is built on immigrants, i this country is built on immigrants, i would _ this country is built on immigrants, i would agree — this country is built on immigrants, i would agree with _ this country is built on immigrants, i would agree with that. _ this country is built on immigrants, i would agree with that. but - this country is built on immigrants, i would agree with that. but what . this country is built on immigrants, i i would agree with that. but what we need to— i would agree with that. but what we need to do— i would agree with that. but what we need to do is— i would agree with that. but what we need to do is in— i would agree with that. but what we need to do is in terms— i would agree with that. but what we need to do is in terms of— i would agree with that. but what we need to do is in terms of the - need to do is in terms of the numbers of— need to do is in terms of the numbers of people - need to do is in terms of the numbers of people coming l need to do is in terms of the - numbers of people coming here, as need to do is in terms of the _ numbers of people coming here, as we heard, 685.000 — numbers of people coming here, as we heard, 685,000 people _ numbers of people coming here, as we heard, 685,000 people came - numbers of people coming here, as we heard, 685,000 people came legally. heard, 685,000 people came legally last year _ heard, 685,000 people came legally last year that's _ heard, 685,000 people came legally last year. that's the _ heard, 685,000 people came legally last year. that's the same _ heard, 685,000 people came legally last year. that's the same as - heard, 685,000 people came legally last year. that's the same as a - heard, 685,000 people came legally last year. that's the same as a city . last year. that's the same as a city the size _ last year. that's the same as a city the size of— last year. that's the same as a city the size of manchester. _ last year. that's the same as a city the size of manchester. we - last year. that's the same as a city the size of manchester. we simply| the size of manchester. we simply cannot _ the size of manchester. we simply cannot cope~ — the size of manchester. we simply cannot cope. that _ the size of manchester. we simply cannot cope. that means- the size of manchester. we simply cannot cope. that means houses. the size of manchester. we simply. cannot cope. that means houses and schools _ cannot cope. that means houses and schools and — cannot cope. that means houses and schools and infrastructure _ cannot cope. that means houses and schools and infrastructure and - cannot cope. that means houses and schools and infrastructure and all - schools and infrastructure and all the rest — schools and infrastructure and all the rest of — schools and infrastructure and all the rest of it— schools and infrastructure and all the rest of it we _ schools and infrastructure and all the rest of it we simply— schools and infrastructure and all the rest of it we simply cannot i the rest of it we simply cannot cope~ — the rest of it we simply cannot cope~ now. _ the rest of it we simply cannot cope. now, where _ the rest of it we simply cannot cope. now, where i— the rest of it we simply cannot cope. now, where i do- the rest of it we simply cannoti cope. now, where i do agree is the rest of it we simply cannot - cope. now, where i do agree is we need _ cope. now, where i do agree is we need to— cope. now, where i do agree is we need to train — cope. now, where i do agree is we need to train british _ cope. now, where i do agree is we need to train british doctors, - cope. now, where i do agree is we need to train british doctors, and i need to train british doctors, and that is— need to train british doctors, and that is where _ need to train british doctors, and that is where we _ need to train british doctors, and that is where we are _ need to train british doctors, and that is where we are saying, - that is where we are saying, actually _ that is where we are saying, actually we _ that is where we are saying, actually we need _ that is where we are saying, actually we need to - that is where we are saying, j actually we need to increase that is where we are saying, - actually we need to increase the number— actually we need to increase the number of— actually we need to increase the number of doctors _ actually we need to increase the number of doctors coming - actually we need to increase the number of doctors coming out . actually we need to increase the | number of doctors coming out of medical— number of doctors coming out of medical school. _ number of doctors coming out of medical school. i— number of doctors coming out of medical school. i also _ number of doctors coming out of medical school. i also want - number of doctors coming out of medical school. i also want to i medical school. i also want to underwrite _ medical school. i also want to underwrite their— medical school. i also want to underwrite their training, - medical school. i also want to underwrite their training, so. medical school. i also want to i underwrite their training, so that if you _ underwrite their training, so that if you spend _ underwrite their training, so that if you spend ten _ underwrite their training, so that if you spend ten years _ underwrite their training, so that if you spend ten years in- underwrite their training, so that if you spend ten years in the - underwrite their training, so that. if you spend ten years in the nhs, we will— if you spend ten years in the nhs, we will pay— if you spend ten years in the nhs, we will pay back— if you spend ten years in the nhs, we will pay back in _ if you spend ten years in the nhs, we will pay back in its _ if you spend ten years in the nhs, we will pay back in its entirety - we will pay back in its entirety your— we will pay back in its entirety your tuition _ we will pay back in its entirety your tuition fees. _ we will pay back in its entirety your tuition fees. and - we will pay back in its entirety your tuition fees. and i- we will pay back in its entirety your tuition fees. and i think. your tuition fees. and i think that's— your tuition fees. and i think that's really— your tuition fees. and i think that's really important - your tuition fees. and i think that's really important in- your tuition fees. and i think. that's really important in terms your tuition fees. and i think- that's really important in terms of the front— that's really important in terms of the front line _ that's really important in terms of the front line staff. _ that's really important in terms of the front line staff. we _ that's really important in terms of the front line staff. we have - that's really important in terms of the front line staff. we have alsoi the front line staff. we have also said he _ the front line staff. we have also said he will— the front line staff. we have also said he will pay— the front line staff. we have also said he will pay zero _ the front line staff. we have also said he will pay zero basic - the front line staff. we have also said he will pay zero basic rate i the front line staff. we have also. said he will pay zero basic rate tax for three _ said he will pay zero basic rate tax for three years. _ said he will pay zero basic rate tax for three years. that _ said he will pay zero basic rate tax for three years. that is _ said he will pay zero basic rate tax for three years. that is a - said he will pay zero basic rate tax for three years. that is a pay- for three years. that is a pay uplift — for three years. that is a pay uplift of— for three years. that is a pay uplift of 13%~ _ for three years. that is a pay uplift of 13%. that _ for three years. that is a pay uplift of 13%. that is - for three years. that is a pay uplift of 13%. that is pretty. uplift of 13%. that is pretty significant~ _ uplift of 1396. that is pretty significant.— uplift of13%. that is pretty

significant.— uplift of 1396. that is pretty significant. uplift of 1396. that is pretty siunificant. ., ., significant. you can outline those olicies significant. you can outline those policies all _ significant. you can outline those policies all you _ significant. you can outline those policies all you liked, _ significant. you can outline those policies all you liked, but - significant. you can outline those policies all you liked, but the - significant. you can outline thosej policies all you liked, but the fact is the first ten minutes of that for nigel farage were dominated by allegations of racism, and comfortable things that candidates have said. are you worried as someone associated with this party, with reform uk, that those allegations and that culture, that sense that there are racist people or people who have racist views in there, doesn't make you at all uncomfortable? let's be really clear i will not tolerate homophobia, racism, — i will not tolerate homophobia, racism, and _ i will not tolerate homophobia, racism, and islamophobia. - i will not tolerate homophobia, racism, and islamophobia. i. i will not tolerate homophobia, l racism, and islamophobia. iwill i will not tolerate homophobia, - racism, and islamophobia. iwill not tolerate _ racism, and islamophobia. iwill not tolerate it. — racism, and islamophobia. iwill not tolerate it, and _ racism, and islamophobia. iwill not tolerate it, and i— racism, and islamophobia. iwill not tolerate it, and i will— racism, and islamophobia. iwill not tolerate it, and i will —— _ racism, and islamophobia. iwill not tolerate it, and i will —— neither- tolerate it, and i will —— neither will niget _ tolerate it, and i will —— neither will niget i— tolerate it, and i will —— neither will nigel. i think— tolerate it, and i will —— neither will nigel. i think he _ tolerate it, and i will —— neither will nigel. i think he made - tolerate it, and i will —— neither will nigel. i think he made a i tolerate it, and i will —— neither. will nigel. i think he made a good point _ will nigel. i think he made a good point which — will nigel. i think he made a good point which is _ will nigel. i think he made a good point which is actually _ will nigel. i think he made a good point which is actually the - will nigel. i think he made a good| point which is actually the election caught— point which is actually the election caught many— point which is actually the election caught many people _ point which is actually the election caught many people out. - point which is actually the election caught many people out. we - point which is actually the election caught many people out. we had i point which is actually the election| caught many people out. we had a good _ caught many people out. we had a good vetting — caught many people out. we had a good vetting process, _ caught many people out. we had a good vetting process, but - caught many people out. we had a good vetting process, but actually| good vetting process, but actually as he _ good vetting process, but actually as he said — good vetting process, but actually as he said we _ good vetting process, but actually as he said we paid _ good vetting process, but actually as he said we paid a _ good vetting process, but actually as he said we paid a company- good vetting process, but actuallyi as he said we paid a company that didh't_ as he said we paid a company that didn't do— as he said we paid a company that didn't do due _ as he said we paid a company that didn't do due diligence. _ as he said we paid a company that didn't do due diligence. nigel- didn't do due diligence. nigel faraue didn't do due diligence. nigel farage founded _ didn't do due diligence. nigel farage founded reform - didn't do due diligence. nigel farage founded reform uk. | didn't do due diligence. nigel - farage founded reform uk. nigel has recently come — farage founded reform uk. nigel has recently come back... _ farage founded reform uk. nigel has recently come back... so _ farage founded reform uk. nigel has recently come back... so you - farage founded reform uk. nigel has recently come back... so you are - recently come back... so you are resmnsible _ recently come back. .. so you are responsible nigel— recently come back... so you are responsible nigel farage - recently come back... so you are responsible nigel farage isn't? l recently come back... so you are i responsible nigel farage isn't? no, no, we responsible nigel farage isn't? no, no. we have — responsible nigel farage isn't? no, no, we have done due diligence but when _ no, we have done due diligence but when you _ no, we have done due diligence but when you have _ no, we have done due diligence but when you have to _ no, we have done due diligence but when you have to put _ no, we have done due diligence but when you have to put 620 - no, we have done due diligence but. when you have to put 620 candidates

in, when you have to put 620 candidates in. some _ when you have to put 620 candidates in. some bad — when you have to put 620 candidates in, some bad apples— when you have to put 620 candidates in, some bad apples get— when you have to put 620 candidates in, some bad apples get in, - when you have to put 620 candidates| in, some bad apples get in, but when we find _ in, some bad apples get in, but when we find them — in, some bad apples get in, but when we find them they— in, some bad apples get in, but when we find them they are _ in, some bad apples get in, but when we find them they are out. _ in, some bad apples get in, but when we find them they are out. [- in, some bad apples get in, but when we find them they are out.— we find them they are out. i would invite broadcasters _ we find them they are out. i would invite broadcasters and _ we find them they are out. i would invite broadcasters and listeners i we find them they are out. i would| invite broadcasters and listeners to look invite broadcasters and listeners to took back— invite broadcasters and listeners to look back to the 2015 leader debates which _ look back to the 2015 leader debates which i _ look back to the 2015 leader debates which i took part in with nigel forage — which i took part in with nigel farage. and look back to the way in which _ farage. and look back to the way in which nigel— farage. and look back to the way in which nigel farage then explicitly targeted people who were not born in the uk _ targeted people who were not born in the uk who— targeted people who were not born in the uk who were receiving hiv treatment. this is nigel farage, a lon- treatment. this is nigel farage, a tong track— treatment. this is nigel farage, a long track history. | treatment. this is nigel farage, a long track history.— long track history. i don't want to net long track history. i don't want to get sidetracked _ long track history. i don't want to get sidetracked into _ long track history. i don't want to get sidetracked into this - long track history. i don't want to get sidetracked into this kind - long track history. i don't want to get sidetracked into this kind of. get sidetracked into this kind of treatment— get sidetracked into this kind of treatment and _ get sidetracked into this kind of treatment and i've _ get sidetracked into this kind of treatment and i've done - get sidetracked into this kind of treatment and i've done a - get sidetracked into this kind of treatment and i've done a lot. get sidetracked into this kind ofi treatment and i've done a lot of work— treatment and i've done a lot of work with— treatment and i've done a lot of work with that _ treatment and i've done a lot of work with that in _ treatment and i've done a lot of work with that in terms - treatment and i've done a lot of work with that in terms of - work with that in terms of prep. where _ work with that in terms of prep. where we — work with that in terms of prep. where we are _ work with that in terms of prep. where we are going _ work with that in terms of prep. where we are going with- work with that in terms of prep. where we are going with this is| where we are going with this is around — where we are going with this is around the _ where we are going with this is around the country _ where we are going with this is around the country people - where we are going with this is around the country people are i around the country people are desperate _ around the country people are desperate for _ around the country people are desperate for change. - around the country people are desperate for change. the - around the country people are . desperate for change. the green party— desperate for change. the green party isn't — desperate for change. the green party isn't going _ desperate for change. the green party isn't going to _ desperate for change. the green party isn't going to get _ desperate for change. the green party isn't going to get in. - desperate for change. the green| party isn't going to get in. labour and the _ party isn't going to get in. labour and the conservatives _ party isn't going to get in. labour and the conservatives are - party isn't going to get in. labour and the conservatives are two - party isn't going to get in. labour. and the conservatives are two sides of that— and the conservatives are two sides of that same — and the conservatives are two sides of that same grubby _ and the conservatives are two sides of that same grubby coin _ and the conservatives are two sides of that same grubby coin and - and the conservatives are two sidesi of that same grubby coin and people are desperate — of that same grubby coin and people are desperate for— of that same grubby coin and people are desperate for change. _ of that same grubby coin and people are desperate for change. and - of that same grubby coin and people are desperate for change. and that i are desperate for change. and that is why— are desperate for change. and that is why we _ are desperate for change. and that is why we are — are desperate for change. and that is why we are polling _ are desperate for change. and that is why we are polling now - are desperate for change. and that is why we are polling now at - are desperate for change. and that is why we are polling now at 21%, i are desperate for change. and that i is why we are polling now at 21%, we are ahead _ is why we are polling now at 21%, we are ahead of — is why we are polling now at 21%, we are ahead of the _ is why we are polling now at 21%, we are ahead of the conservatives. - is why we are polling now at 21%, we are ahead of the conservatives. we i are ahead of the conservatives. we are ahead of the conservatives. we are not— are ahead of the conservatives. we are not far— are ahead of the conservatives. we are not far behind _ are ahead of the conservatives. we are not far behind labour. - are ahead of the conservatives. we are not far behind labour. [- are ahead of the conservatives. we are not far behind labour. [just- are not far behind labour. i 'ust want to askfi are not far behind labour. i 'ust want to ask natalie i are not far behind labour. i 'ust want to ask natalie a i are not far behind labour.- want to ask natalie a question as well about the questions that adrian faced in terms of all of this. he

struggled to answer, didn't he, when he was asked about how people would be recompensed if petrol and diesel cars are to be scrapped by 2035. do you have an answer for that? absolutely. i think about the point he made _ absolutely. i think about the point he made and i think we've got to look— he made and i think we've got to took about— he made and i think we've got to look about this in the broader context— look about this in the broader context is— look about this in the broader context is we have to tackle the climate — context is we have to tackle the climate emergency and we have to create _ climate emergency and we have to create infrastructure and we are actually — create infrastructure and we are actually here now sitting outside the cricket ground is a charging point _ the cricket ground is a charging point for— the cricket ground is a charging point for electric cars, but as adrian — point for electric cars, but as adrian himself said, it's not been like the _ adrian himself said, it's not been like the info structure we need around — like the info structure we need around the country. we need to invest — around the country. we need to invest this— around the country. we need to invest. this is not a case of... that's— invest. this is not a case of... that's not— invest. this is not a case of... that's not about how people will be paid to get rid of their own car stop with this is not about individual action comments about creating the framework where ideally, we are not talking about one—for—one replacement of electric cars and petrol cars, we're looking at a society where there is brilliant, cheap public transport available to everyone who needs it, going at a time when you can get to work, as a grandparent go and see

your grandchildren. we need a society that really works for everybody. including those who don't have access to a car which is a significant number of people. natalie, david, we could go at this for quite a long time. we have got to hand back. thank you very much to both of you for your time. we could keep this going for quite a lot longer, but there's plenty of other issues to discuss. qm. longer, but there's plenty of other issues to discuss.— very much, hannah. and just to let you know that you can follow on the bbc live page, bbc verify, orfact checking policies from both sides from the green and reform. such just check that out on the bbc website. let's get some views from my panelists. just to very quickly, this reform stuff, what do you come in terms of that debate on question time being dominated about that covid recording with the canvasser. how damaging is that for reform uk, do you think?— do you think? well, nigel farage can't be happy — do you think? well, nigel farage can't be happy about _ do you think? well, nigel farage can't be happy about it. - do you think? well, nigel farage can't be happy about it. it - do you think? well, nigel farage can't be happy about it. it was i can't be happy about it. it was notable that most of the time with

adrian ramsey from the greens was about the things he wants to talk about, climate and decarbonisation. he was certainly challenged on some of the issues but he was talking about the things that really mattered to him. whereas nigel farage did not want to spend the first 10—15 minutes talking about racism within his own party. i guess his responses sort of a classic deflection technique, it is all a smear, it is all a stitch up to divert attention from what has actually been said. but i think will damage him and it is... he will certainly portray it as part of an attempt by what he would see as the status quo to marginalise what he likes to portray those whose insurgent party. but i think it's a really uncomfortable question because as we saw in the question time half hour, yes there is this one candidate to his film saying disgusting things but he's by no means the only one who has been caught out amongst those reform candidates saying things, which most people would believe are completely

unacceptable. people would believe are completely unacceptable-— unacceptable. what do you think, does this draw _ unacceptable. what do you think, does this draw a _ unacceptable. what do you think, does this draw a line _ unacceptable. what do you think, does this draw a line under - unacceptable. what do you think, does this draw a line under it - unacceptable. what do you think, | does this draw a line under it what nigel farage has said in response to it or do you expect us to run a bit longer? i it or do you expect us to run a bit loner? ~ . longer? i think it will run a little bit loner longer? i think it will run a little bit longerjust — longer? i think it will run a little bit longerjust because - longer? i think it will run a little bit longerjust because there - bit longerjust because there is potice — bit longerjust because there is police involvement. so there will definitely — police involvement. so there will definitely be headlines on it tomorrow. 0f definitely be headlines on it tomorrow. of course, following up on the allegations made by nigel farage and his— the allegations made by nigel farage and his supporters today about channel— and his supporters today about channel for or the production company— channel for or the production company involved saying that it was a set _ company involved saying that it was a set up _ company involved saying that it was a set up. now, i think what is significant _ a set up. now, i think what is significant here is he is not going to atienate — significant here is he is not going to alienate any of his supporters, in fact, _ to alienate any of his supporters, in fact, there is a sort of trump in playbook— in fact, there is a sort of trump in playbook here where they may actually — playbook here where they may actually feed their support for him because _ actually feed their support for him because he's fitting it all is the establishment is out to get me, it is a set up — establishment is out to get me, it is a set up. at the truth is that for reform _ is a set up. at the truth is that for reform to be truly successful, he has _ for reform to be truly successful, he has to— for reform to be truly successful, he has to move beyond his base, and ithink— he has to move beyond his base, and i think that _ he has to move beyond his base, and i think that in — he has to move beyond his base, and i think that in the first few weeks of this— i think that in the first few weeks of this campaign he was doing it quite _ of this campaign he was doing it quite successfully. look at the way he launched his manifesto in an old

taden— he launched his manifesto in an old taden seat— he launched his manifesto in an old laden seat in wales. he was coming for not _ laden seat in wales. he was coming for not only— laden seat in wales. he was coming for not only tory voters to cross over— for not only tory voters to cross over to — for not only tory voters to cross over to hint. _ for not only tory voters to cross overto him, but for not only tory voters to cross over to him, but also even labour voters _ over to him, but also even labour voters and — over to him, but also even labour voters and the only way to do that successfully is to be able to present _ successfully is to be able to present yourself as someone who is quite _ present yourself as someone who is quite acceptable.— quite acceptable. define what you mean b a quite acceptable. define what you mean by a truly — quite acceptable. define what you mean by a truly successful, - quite acceptable. define what you l mean by a truly successful, though. if you look at the projections in terms of the votes shared, but in terms of the votes shared, but in terms of the ability to actually get seats, it's entirely another, isn't it? ~ seats, it's entirely another, isn't it? . , .. , , seats, it's entirely another, isn't it? . , . . , , ., it? well, successful in that precisely — it? well, successful in that precisely getting _ it? well, successful in that precisely getting seats - it? well, successful in that - precisely getting seats because of all nigel farage stepped in as leader. — all nigel farage stepped in as leader, we were expecting possibly no seats— leader, we were expecting possibly no seats at all. and now you have had certain — no seats at all. and now you have had certain polls saying they may -et had certain polls saying they may get up _ had certain polls saying they may get up to — had certain polls saying they may get up to 18 seats. malcolm i think we are _ get up to 18 seats. malcolm i think we are not— get up to 18 seats. malcolm i think we are not going to see that any more _ we are not going to see that any more because for that to happen he precisely— more because for that to happen he precisely has to convince some of those _ precisely has to convince some of those dissolution tories, even some labour— those dissolution tories, even some labour voters to come over to his side, _ labour voters to come over to his side, and — labour voters to come over to his side, and instead come of this,

combined — side, and instead come of this, combined with his comments about russia _ combined with his comments about russia tast — combined with his comments about russia last week are really going to alienate _ russia last week are really going to alienate those people, really put them _ alienate those people, really put them off — alienate those people, really put them off. i think what happens is them off. i think what happens is the polling won't reflect that because polling takes a while to collect — because polling takes a while to collect that sample and to do the work _ collect that sample and to do the work so — collect that sample and to do the work. so it's an interesting scenario— work. so it's an interesting scenario where we've still got polls slightly— scenario where we've still got polls slightly lagging behind these news stories— slightly lagging behind these news stories that are reflecting reform doing _ stories that are reflecting reform doing quite well, but the election day is _ doing quite well, but the election day is very— doing quite well, but the election day is very soon and i don't thank you get— day is very soon and i don't thank you get polling to reflect those comments last weekend about russia and this— comments last weekend about russia and this incredibly uncomfortable incident — and this incredibly uncomfortable incident for nigel farage, incredibly. i mean, ijust would like to— incredibly. i mean, ijust would like to mention rishi sunak today actually— like to mention rishi sunak today actually because with his campaign in his— actually because with his campaign in his performance, the video he put out come _ in his performance, the video he put out come of— in his performance, the video he put out come of the statement he made to journalists _ out come of the statement he made to journalists about how his daughters will have _ journalists about how his daughters will have to see that slur was him probably— will have to see that slur was him probably at its best because it was passionate, it was angry and it is going _ passionate, it was angry and it is going to — passionate, it was angry and it is going to resonate with people. he.

said he going to resonate with people. said he was going to resonate with people. he: said he was hurt, didn't going to resonate with people. he said he was hurt, didn't he? thank you so much for now. plenty more from you later on, but do stay with us here on bbc news. you are watching the context. hello there. we may have lost the heat that some of us experienced earlier this week, but that certainly doesn't mean it's going to be a wash—out weekend. in fact, many places will stay dry. just a little bit of rain here and there. equally some spells of sunshine. now, during today, we've had this curl of cloud, an area of low pressure, to the north of us. that brought some heavy rain first thing across northern scotland. that tending to clear away. a fair amount of cloud elsewhere, but actually as we go through the evening, we'll see clear skies for many. and then this next zone of cloud rolling its way in from the west. some outbreaks of patchy rain maybe just fringing into the south of northern ireland, more especially into west wales, parts of north—west england by the end of the night. 12 degrees in liverpool,

but where we hold on to clear skies, it's going to be a little bit chilly as we start saturday morning. so a weak frontal system moving its way into the picture, but this isn't going to have an awful lot of life about it. not much energy associated with this weather front, so just this area of cloud. some bits and pieces of mostly light and patchy rain across parts of north wales and into northern england. northern ireland brightening up quite nicely with some sunshine. southern and central parts of scotland seeing sunshine. northern scotland quite breezy and cloudy with some showers. but with some hazy sunshine towards the south and the south—east of england, temperatures will actually climb to 25 degrees, a brief return of some relatively warm air. cooler further north and west, and actually as we head through saturday night, as this band of cloud and very patchy rain sinks south—eastwards, more of us will get back into that cooler, fresher air. now, for sunday, this big area of high pressure in the atlantic will try to ridge across the uk, so that ridge of high pressure building in. we are looking at a fair amount of dry weather. this old weather front still bringing some showers across the far south and south—east first thing. fair amounts of cloud

filtering its way southwards. we mayjust see the odd bit and piece of showery rain here and there. temperatures north to south 14—21 degrees, so around or perhaps even a touch below the average for this time of year in some locations. into next week, weather systems will push in from the west, but our area of high pressure to the south—west will still exert some influence. so the further south you are across the uk, actually not too much rain. a little bit wetter further north and west, but certainly not looking like there's anything particularly warm on the way.