but john curtice the snp got 37.8%. butjohn curtice has said that you have to be realistic, reform is not talking about winning seats in scotland, but what they are talking about is eating into the conservative vote, though not as dramatically as they might in england and wales. opinion polls suggest that the snp's decade—long dominance of scottish politics is looking weaker, but support for independence is still solid. the latest poll from redfield and wilson today puts yes for independence 46 and no 48. let's hear now from someone who would like to raise the issue of independence, how do you feel about it? y , independence, how do you feel about it? , ., independence, how do you feel about in , ., ., it? just now, i would say the momentum _ it? just now, i would say the momentum has _ it? just now, i would say the momentum has gone - it? just now, i would say the momentum has gone sort i it? just now, i would say the momentum has gone sort ofi it? just now, i would say the - momentum has gone sort of down a touch, in the sense that people up

and down the country now, their priorities are the cost—of—living, getting the services that they need from the nhs, and just basically surviving, when they can't heat their houses, they need, financially, it is such a higher priority now, rather than solving the independence question. with regards to independence, there is a couple of questions that has never been answered. one is the currency, are we still going to retain the pound or are we going to have the euro? or is they're going to be another currency? the second thing is, would you go back into the eu, yes or no? i is, would you go back into the eu, yes or no?— yes or no? i will put that but i wanted to _ yes or no? i will put that but i wanted to hear— yes or no? i will put that but i wanted to hear from - yes or no? i will put that but i wanted to hear from you - yes or no? i will put that but i i wanted to hear from you more, because i think i am right in saying you voted snp last time. i because i think i am right in saying you voted snp last time.— because i think i am right in saying you voted snp last time. i did. and you voted snp last time. i did. and what are you _ you voted snp last time. i did. and what are you thinking _ you voted snp last time. i c c and what are you thinking this time? you voted snp last time. i did. and what are you thinking this time? i l what are you thinking this time? i am actually a floating voterjust now. i have not made a decision quite yet as to which party to vote

for just quite yet as to which party to vote forjust now. i quite yet as to which party to vote forjust "ow-— quite yet as to which party to vote forjust now. i am sure kate forbes will ick forjust now. i am sure kate forbes will pick up — forjust now. i am sure kate forbes will pick up on _ forjust now. i am sure kate forbes will pick up on your— forjust now. i am sure kate forbes will pick up on your point _ forjust now. i am sure kate forbes will pick up on your point but - forjust now. i am sure kate forbes will pick up on your point but i - will pick up on your point but i would like a show of hands, who supports independence and voted snp last time? please raise your hands. please keep your hands up if you support independence and you are considering voting a different way this time. that is interesting, can i hearfrom this time. that is interesting, can i hear from the gentleman this time. that is interesting, can i hearfrom the gentleman here, why are you thinking that you might alter your vote? are you thinking that you might alteryourvote? i are you thinking that you might alter your vote?— are you thinking that you might alter your vote? i am an undecided voter on the _ alter your vote? i am an undecided voter on the basis _ alter your vote? i am an undecided voter on the basis that _ alter your vote? i am an undecided voter on the basis that the - alter your vote? i am an undecided voter on the basis that the current| voter on the basis that the current snp government has been in powerfor a number of years, they haven't, in my opinion, effected enough change and governed effectively, and as a result, i don't have faith that we can do it as an independent country. do you have faith in the idea of

independence, but not the vehicle? i believe that we should have the right to self—determination. find believe that we should have the right to self-determination. and can i hear from — right to self-determination. and can i hear from the _ right to self-determination. and can i hear from the gentleman, - right to self-determination. and can i hear from the gentleman, you - right to self-determination. and can i hear from the gentleman, you had | i hearfrom the gentleman, you had your hand up and then you brought it down. . . ~ your hand up and then you brought it down. , ., ~ ,., your hand up and then you brought it down. . ., ~' ,, g your hand up and then you brought it down. , ., ~ g .,, your hand up and then you brought it down. , ., g .,, down. yes, thank you. my doubt has come about — down. yes, thank you. my doubt has come about because _ down. yes, thank you. my doubt has come about because i _ down. yes, thank you. my doubt has come about because i haven't - down. yes, thank you. my doubt hasj come about because i haven't really, this time _ come about because i haven't really, this time around, seen any convincing information as to why the snp will— convincing information as to why the snp will deliver on independence. apart _ snp will deliver on independence. apart from independence, what about the track record on, for example, on education, the last piece of study showed that as far as we was coming, 2022 was the last one, compared to 2018, we were going backwards on maths, science and reading, is there something about the fundamentals that were review?— something about the fundamentals that were review? yes. i have been in education _ that were review? yes. i have been in education all _ that were review? yes. i have been in education all my _ that were review? yes. i have been in education all my life, _ that were review? yes. i have been in education all my life, and - that were review? yes. i have been in education all my life, and what l in education all my life, and what is absolutely clear is that there

has been a continuous decline in the quality of students coming through. and it's purely because of the way the funding structures have been undermined by the system. thank you ve much. undermined by the system. thank you very much- i — undermined by the system. thank you very much. i want _ undermined by the system. thank you very much. i want to _ undermined by the system. thank you very much. i want to put _ undermined by the system. thank you very much. i want to put this - undermined by the system. thank you very much. i want to put this to - very much. i want to put this to kate forbes, because kate forbes, there seems to be a conversation in this room that the snp has squandered the support for independence, that the support that was there before, and part of the way that you have squandered it is on the fundamental thing that scotland used to be so proud of, and thatis scotland used to be so proud of, and that is education? can scotland used to be so proud of, and that is education?— that is education? can i say directly to _ that is education? can i say directly to those _ that is education? can i say directly to those who - that is education? can i say directly to those who voted | that is education? can i say - directly to those who voted snp before, — directly to those who voted snp before, and are thinking of doing so again. _ before, and are thinking of doing so again. in_ before, and are thinking of doing so again, in this election will have an opportunity to declare your preferences, and we know that the snp has _ preferences, and we know that the snp has had a difficult year, but support— snp has had a difficult year, but support for independence has remained robust. and that means that in this— remained robust. and that means that in this election... a remained robust. and that means that in this election. . ._ in this election... a difficult year is a kind of— in this election... a difficult year is a kind of understatement! - in this election... a difficult year is a kind of understatement! i i

is a kind of understatement! i seriously mean it, it is an understatement and i feel that over the last two years, the problems have been, and presumably you would put your hand on your heart and say this, entirely of your own making? 1 this, entirely of your own making? i have owned the fact it has been difficult, — have owned the fact it has been difficult, i— have owned the fact it has been difficult, i am have owned the fact it has been difficult, lam not have owned the fact it has been difficult, i am not shying away from that _ difficult, i am not shying away from that but _ difficult, i am not shying away from that but i — difficult, i am not shying away from that. but i am saying that if you support— that. but i am saying that if you support independence, there is only one party— support independence, there is only one party standing at this election that will— one party standing at this election that will be able to effect any sort of change. — that will be able to effect any sort of change, and people are voting for different— of change, and people are voting for different reasons, but are but i think— different reasons, but are but i think primarily they are voting for change _ think primarily they are voting for chance. ., , ., ., change. how? let me put back to ian murra , change. how? let me put back to ian murray. because _ change. how? let me put back to ian murray, because what _ change. how? let me put back to ian murray, because what john _ change. how? let me put back to ian murray, because what john swinney i murray, because whatjohn swinney said was, if in this general election a majority of mps returned are snp, then that forms a mandate for another referendum. and the question really is, kate forbes' question really is, kate forbes' question is, are there any circumstances in which a labour government would ever grant a referendum to scotland again, obviously it was david cameron last

time, but on independence, and the lib dems and i think the rule of thumb here is that the majority of mps would then start negotiation, is ludicrous. let me at least attempt to answer the question. i ludicrous. let me at least attempt to answer the question.— to answer the question. i don't think it is _ to answer the question. i don't think it is the _ to answer the question. i don't think it is the two _ to answer the question. i don't think it is the two years - to answer the question. i don't think it is the two years that i to answer the question. i don't think it is the two years that is | think it is the two years that is the problem _ think it is the two years that is the problem here, _ think it is the two years that is the problem here, i— think it is the two years that is the problem here, ithink- think it is the two years that is the problem here, i think it. think it is the two years that is the problem here, i think it is| think it is the two years that is i the problem here, i think it is 17 years— the problem here, i think it is 17 years and — the problem here, i think it is 17 years and 14 _ the problem here, i think it is 17 years and 14 years _ the problem here, i think it is 17 years and 14 years respectively. the problem here, i think it is 17. years and 14 years respectively of the complete _ years and 14 years respectively of the complete failure _ years and 14 years respectively of the complete failure from - years and 14 years respectively of the complete failure from both i the complete failure from both governments _ the complete failure from both governments. this _ the complete failure from both governments. this is - the complete failure from both governments. this is a - governments. this is a change election— governments. this is a change election because people - governments. this is a change i election because people are worried about their— election because people are worried about their bills, _ election because people are worried about their bills, i— election because people are worried about their bills, i have _ election because people are worried about their bills, i have knocked i election because people are worried about their bills, i have knocked onl about their bills, i have knocked on thousands— about their bills, i have knocked on thousands of— about their bills, i have knocked on thousands of doors _ about their bills, i have knocked on thousands of doors in _ about their bills, i have knocked on thousands of doors in this - about their bills, i have knocked on thousands of doors in this electionl thousands of doors in this election and everyone _ thousands of doors in this election and everyone is— thousands of doors in this election and everyone is talking _ thousands of doors in this election and everyone is talking about i and everyone is talking about everything _ and everyone is talking about everything but _ and everyone is talking about everything but the _ and everyone is talking about i everything but the constitution. i want everything but the constitution. want to bring in alex... everything but the constitution. i want to bring in alex... the i want to bring in alex... the delivery _ want to bring in alex... the delivery of _ want to bring in alex... the delivery of change - want to bring in alex... the delivery of change come friday is rishi _ delivery of change come friday is rishi sunak— delivery of change come friday is rishi sunak packing _ delivery of change come friday is rishi sunak packing his— delivery of change come friday is rishi sunak packing his bags i delivery of change come friday is rishi sunak packing his bags andj delivery of change come friday is. rishi sunak packing his bags and a brand-new— rishi sunak packing his bags and a brand—new labour— rishi sunak packing his bags and a brand—new labour government i rishi sunak packing his bags and a i brand—new labour government which can effect— brand—new labour government which can effect change _ brand—new labour government which can effect change across _ brand—new labour government which can effect change across the - can effect change across the whole of the uk — can effect change across the whole of the uk. �* ., ., ., ., of the uk. alex cole-hamilton, one of the uk. alex cole-hamilton, one ofthe of the uk. alex cole-hamilton, one of the issues _ of the uk. alex cole-hamilton, one of the issues is _ of the uk. alex cole-hamilton, one of the issues is whether _ of the uk. alex cole-hamilton, one of the issues is whether or - of the uk. alex cole-hamilton, one of the issues is whether or not, i of the uk. alex cole-hamilton, one of the issues is whether or not, if i of the issues is whether or not, if it is an incoming labour government, it is an incoming labour government, it would actually be a reinforcing of devolution, do you think that would happen? 1 of devolution, do you think that would happen?—

of devolution, do you think that would happen? i hope that there would happen? i hope that there would be a _ would happen? i hope that there would be a discussion _ would happen? i hope that there would be a discussion about i would happen? i hope that there would be a discussion about thatj would happen? i hope that there i would be a discussion about that and i sure that a new government wood scotland with more respect, but kirsty my egg eldest son is 16, he will get his first vote in next holyrood election, he and his classmates have only ever known this constitutional debate, it has held them back, it has helped their education back, and it is what i hear on the doorsteps, i have knocked 10,000 doors in this election and people don't talk about independence, they are talking about getting a gp appointment, getting an nhs dentist to deliver care in their locality. fixing their children's education, getting our schools back up education, getting our schools back up the league tables. getting the sewage out of our... in up the league tables. getting the sewage out of our. . ._ sewage out of our... in that case how does — sewage out of our... in that case how does anybody _ sewage out of our... in that case how does anybody work - sewage out of our... in that case how does anybody work out i sewage out of our... in that case how does anybody work out why | sewage out of our... in that case i how does anybody work out why the support for independence, patrick harvie, has remained solid? i think increasingly — harvie, has remained solid? i think increasingly people _ harvie, has remained solid? i think increasingly people recognise i harvie, has remained solid? i think increasingly people recognise thatl increasingly people recognise that independence _ increasingly people recognise that independence does— increasingly people recognise that independence does not— increasingly people recognise that independence does not belong i increasingly people recognise that independence does not belong tol increasingly people recognise that i independence does not belong to one political— independence does not belong to one political party. — independence does not belong to one political party. and _ independence does not belong to one political party, and many— political party, and many independence _ political party, and manyj independence supporters political party, and many— independence supporters recognise that as _ independence supporters recognise that as welt — independence supporters recognise that as well. but _ independence supporters recognise that as well. but i— independence supporters recognise

that as well. but i will— independence supporters recognise that as well. but i will tell - independence supporters recognise that as well. but i will tell you i that as well. but i will tell you one of— that as well. but i will tell you one of the _ that as well. but i will tell you one of the threads _ that as well. but i will tell you one of the threads that - that as well. but i will tell you one of the threads that has i that as well. but i will tell youl one of the threads that has run through— one of the threads that has run through every— one of the threads that has run through every issue _ one of the threads that has run through every issue that - one of the threads that has run through every issue that we i one of the threads that has run l through every issue that we have discussed — through every issue that we have discussed tonight— through every issue that we have discussed tonight is _ through every issue that we have discussed tonight is the - through every issue that we have discussed tonight is the chronic. discussed tonight is the chronic inequality— discussed tonight is the chronic inequality in _ discussed tonight is the chronic inequality in our— discussed tonight is the chronic inequality in our society, - discussed tonight is the chronic inequality in our society, that l discussed tonight is the chronicj inequality in our society, that is why the — inequality in our society, that is why the cost—of—living - inequality in our society, that is why the cost—of—living crisis i inequality in our society, that is| why the cost—of—living crisis has hit on _ why the cost—of—living crisis has hit on equally _ why the cost—of—living crisis has hit on equally in _ why the cost—of—living crisis has hit on equally in our— why the cost—of—living crisis has hit on equally in our society. i why the cost—of—living crisis has. hit on equally in our society. that is why— hit on equally in our society. that is why covid — hit on equally in our society. that is why covid and _ hit on equally in our society. that is why covid and brexit _ hit on equally in our society. that is why covid and brexit hit - is why covid and brexit hit unequally— is why covid and brexit hit unequally in _ is why covid and brexit hit unequally in our— is why covid and brexit hit unequally in our society. i is why covid and brexit hit i unequally in our society. that is why 15_ unequally in our society. that is why 15 years _ unequally in our society. that is why 15 years of _ unequally in our society. that is why 15 years of tory _ unequally in our society. that is why 15 years of tory austerity i unequally in our society. that is. why 15 years of tory austerity has hit unequally _ why 15 years of tory austerity has hit unequally in _ why 15 years of tory austerity has hit unequally in our— why 15 years of tory austerity has hit unequally in our society- why 15 years of tory austerity has hit unequally in our society and l why 15 years of tory austerity has hit unequally in our society and it is why— hit unequally in our society and it is why the — hit unequally in our society and it is why the transition _ hit unequally in our society and it is why the transition to _ hit unequally in our society and it is why the transition to net - hit unequally in our society and it is why the transition to net zero i hit unequally in our society and iti is why the transition to net zero is so difficult — is why the transition to net zero is so difficult to _ is why the transition to net zero is so difficult to achieve _ is why the transition to net zero is so difficult to achieve without i so difficult to achieve without those — so difficult to achieve without those full _ so difficult to achieve without those full powers. _ so difficult to achieve without those full powers. we - so difficult to achieve without those full powers. we can i so difficult to achieve without i those full powers. we can make this a transition to — those full powers. we can make this a transition to a fairer _ those full powers. we can make this a transition to a fairer and _ a transition to a fairer and more equal— a transition to a fairer and more equal society but _ a transition to a fairer and more equal society but we lack - a transition to a fairer and more equal society but we lack the i equal society but we lack the ability to— equal society but we lack the ability to do that. _ equal society but we lack the ability to do that. the - equal society but we lack the | ability to do that. the chronic inequality. _ ability to do that. the chronic inequality, the _ ability to do that. the chronic inequality, the uk— ability to do that. the chronic inequality, the uk is- ability to do that. the chronic inequality, the uk is one i ability to do that. the chronic inequality, the uk is one of. ability to do that. the chronic. inequality, the uk is one of the richest — inequality, the uk is one of the richest countries _ inequality, the uk is one of the richest countries in _ inequality, the uk is one of the richest countries in the - inequality, the uk is one of the richest countries in the world, i inequality, the uk is one of the i richest countries in the world, one of the _ richest countries in the world, one of the richest _ richest countries in the world, one of the richest countries _ richest countries in the world, one of the richest countries there i of the richest countries there has ever been— of the richest countries there has ever been in— of the richest countries there has ever been in the _ of the richest countries there has ever been in the world, - of the richest countries there has ever been in the world, and i of the richest countries there has ever been in the world, and get i of the richest countries there has i ever been in the world, and get that wealth— ever been in the world, and get that wealth is— ever been in the world, and get that wealth is hoarded _ ever been in the world, and get that wealth is hoarded by— ever been in the world, and get that wealth is hoarded by the _ ever been in the world, and get that wealth is hoarded by the very, - ever been in the world, and get that wealth is hoarded by the very, veryl wealth is hoarded by the very, very few add _ wealth is hoarded by the very, very few add not— wealth is hoarded by the very, very few add not being _ wealth is hoarded by the very, very few add not being invested... i few add not being invested... applause _ applause lack of promise of investment from either of the uk parties in restoring our public services and investing. the accusation is that the conservatives allowed this to happen, miles briggs? i the conservatives allowed this to happen, miles briggs?— the conservatives allowed this to happen, miles briggs? i don't agree with that but _ happen, miles briggs? i don't agree with that but what _ happen, miles briggs? i don't agree with that but what is _ happen, miles briggs? i don't agree with that but what is clear _ happen, miles briggs? i don't agree with that but what is clear from i happen, miles briggs? i don't agree

with that but what is clear from the | with that but what is clear from the audience is, you want the politicians are standing at this election to get back to your priorities, not independence. i think this is where in a week's time, i am think this is where in a week's time, iam not think this is where in a week's time, i am not a clairvoyant but i can tell uk and john swinney will be declaring it is time for another independence vote. you declaring it is time for another independence vote.— declaring it is time for another independence vote. you are not a clairvoyant _ independence vote. you are not a clairvoyant but — independence vote. you are not a clairvoyant but do _ independence vote. you are not a clairvoyant but do you _ independence vote. you are not a clairvoyant but do you think- independence vote. you are not a clairvoyant but do you think the l clairvoyant but do you think the conservatives are going to win? in scotland i think this is a great opportunity for us and i say this because across scotland every seat is marginal, every one of us are fighting key seats across scotland and in these key states where it is and in these key states where it is a fight between snp and the conservatives, voting reform will help kate. i ask people to think, who can take the snp out of this election? because this could be the last independent selection we have a face. but last independent selection we have a face. �* ~ . �* . last independent selection we have a face. �* ~ , �* , ., last independent selection we have a face. ~ a ,., ., last independent selection we have a face. ~ a ,., face. but miles briggs how do you exlain face. but miles briggs how do you explain 4696 _ face. but miles briggs how do you explain 4696 in — face. but miles briggs how do you explain 4696 in the _ face. but miles briggs how do you explain 4696 in the latest - face. but miles briggs how do you explain 4696 in the latest poll- face. but miles briggs how do you explain 4696 in the latest poll out| explain 46% in the latest poll out today supporting independence, 48% don't. that would seem to me that in the lifetime of this conservative government, ifanything,

government, if anything, independence government, ifanything, independence has kind of dug in. you have not eaten away. do you remember, famously, george robertson, obviously not of your party, said that devolution was going to kill independence stone dead. there is still sufficient support for independence for some people to say there should be another referendum, what you make of that? i another referendum, what you make of that? ., ., ., , ., , ., that? i do not want us to see our country return — that? i do not want us to see our country return to _ that? i do not want us to see our country return to those - that? i do not want us to see our country return to those divisions| that? i do not want us to see our. country return to those divisions of the past. we had that referendum, they still exist and i think that is one thing over time we need to rebuild that but this election will be the chance to do that. let me brina in be the chance to do that. let me bring in some — be the chance to do that. let me bring in some voices _ be the chance to do that. let me bring in some voices from the i bring in some voices from the audience. trustable i am going to take the gentleman with the mic and then i am going to take the gentleman with the blue t—shirt. thank you, i want to come back on education. — thank you, i want to come back on education. i— thank you, i want to come back on education. i am _ thank you, i want to come back on education, i am a _ thank you, i want to come back on education, i am a yes— thank you, i want to come back on education, i am a yes vote - thank you, i want to come back on education, i am a yes vote but i i thank you, i want to come back onl education, i am a yes vote but i can no longer— education, i am a yes vote but i can no longer vote _ education, i am a yes vote but i can no longer vote snp— education, i am a yes vote but i can no longer vote snp because - education, i am a yes vote but i can no longer vote snp because i- education, i am a yes vote but i can no longer vote snp because i am i no longer vote snp because i am teacher— no longer vote snp because i am teacher and — no longer vote snp because i am teacher and my— no longer vote snp because i am teacher and my colleagues - no longer vote snp because i am teacher and my colleagues and l no longer vote snp because i am teacher and my colleagues and i i no longer vote snp because i am i teacher and my colleagues and i in colleges— teacher and my colleagues and i in colleges and — teacher and my colleagues and i in colleges and schools _ teacher and my colleagues and i in colleges and schools feel- teacher and my colleagues and i in colleges and schools feel utterly i colleges and schools feel utterly let down — colleges and schools feel utterly let down by— colleges and schools feel utterly let down by this _ colleges and schools feel utterly let down by this snp _ colleges and schools feel utterly i let down by this snp government. 3500 _ let down by this snp government. 3500 teachers _ let down by this snp government. 3500 teachers you _ let down by this snp government. 3500 teachers you promised - let down by this snp government. 3500 teachers you promised us, i let down by this snp government. i 3500 teachers you promised us, 3500 teachers _ 3500 teachers you promised us, 3500 teachers would — 3500 teachers you promised us, 3500 teachers would end two _ 3500 teachers you promised us, 3500 teachers would end two chopper -

teachers would end two chopper cavity— teachers would end two chopper cavity in — teachers would end two chopper cavity in early— teachers would end two chopper cavity in early primary _ teachers would end two chopper cavity in early primary teachers'l cavity in early primary teachers' careers. — cavity in early primary teachers' careers. it _ cavity in early primary teachers' careers, it would _ cavity in early primary teachers' careers, it would end _ cavity in early primary teachers' careers, it would end our- cavity in early primary teachers' i careers, it would end our workload crisis. _ careers, it would end our workload crisis. but — careers, it would end our workload crisis, but that _ careers, it would end our workload crisis, but that is _ careers, it would end our workload crisis, but that is a _ careers, it would end our workload crisis, but that is a promise - crisis, but that is a promise broken _ crisis, but that is a promise broken 0ur— crisis, but that is a promise broken. our college - crisis, but that is a promise i broken. our college lecturers crisis, but that is a promise - broken. our college lecturers right now. _ broken. our college lecturers right now. right — broken. 0ur college lecturers right now. right now— broken. our college lecturers right now, right now the _ broken. 0ur college lecturers right now, right now the snp— broken. our college lecturers right now, right now the snp are - broken. our college lecturers right now, right now the snp are kind i broken. our college lecturers rightj now, right now the snp are kind of posing _ now, right now the snp are kind of posing as— now, right now the snp are kind of posing as defenders _ now, right now the snp are kind of posing as defenders of— now, right now the snp are kind of posing as defenders of workers' i posing as defenders of workers' rights. — posing as defenders of workers' rights, meanwhile, _ posing as defenders of workers' rights, meanwhile, you're - posing as defenders of workers' i rights, meanwhile, you're standing aside _ rights, meanwhile, you're standing aside while — rights, meanwhile, you're standing aside while college _ rights, meanwhile, you're standing aside while college lecturers - rights, meanwhile, you're standing aside while college lecturers are i aside while college lecturers are being _ aside while college lecturers are being deemed _ aside while college lecturers are being deemed by— aside while college lecturers are being deemed by their- aside while college lecturers are being deemed by their own i aside while college lecturers are - being deemed by their own employers. you cannot— being deemed by their own employers. you cannot seriously _ being deemed by their own employers. you cannot seriously expect _ being deemed by their own employers. you cannot seriously expect voters i you cannot seriously expect voters who are _ you cannot seriously expect voters who are teachers _ you cannot seriously expect voters who are teachers and _ you cannot seriously expect voters who are teachers and lecturers - you cannot seriously expect voters who are teachers and lecturers to. who are teachers and lecturers to continue — who are teachers and lecturers to continue to — who are teachers and lecturers to continue to vote _ who are teachers and lecturers to continue to vote for _ who are teachers and lecturers to continue to vote for you. - who are teachers and lecturers to continue to vote for you. kale - continue to vote for you. kate forbes. continue to vote for you. kate forbes- can — continue to vote for you. kate forbes. can i say _ continue to vote for you. kate forbes. can i say that - continue to vote for you. kate forbes. can i say that i - continue to vote for you. kate forbes. can i say that i hear l continue to vote for you. kate - forbes. can i say that i hear those challenges. _ forbes. can i say that i hear those challenges, and _ forbes. can i say that i hear those challenges, and i _ forbes. can i say that i hear those challenges, and i have _ forbes. can i say that i hear those challenges, and i have already - forbes. can i say that i hear those i challenges, and i have already owned some of the difficulties that we face. but the choice in this election is to deliver real, proper change. election is to deliver real, proper chance. �* ' , . election is to deliver real, proper change-_ and - election is to deliver real, proper change._ and the i election is to deliver real, proper| change._ and the big change. but 17 years? and the big challenaes change. but 17 years? and the big challenges that _ change. but 17 years? and the big challenges that we _ change. but 17 years? and the big challenges that we face _ change. but 17 years? and the big challenges that we face across - change. but 17 years? and the big| challenges that we face across the board, whether it is the nhs, whether it's in education or in our other public services, is ultimately, the impact of austerity outsource. ., . , .

outsource. college lecturers have not had a pay _ outsource. college lecturers have not had a pay rise _ outsource. college lecturers have not had a pay rise since _ outsource. college lecturers have not had a pay rise since 2021, - outsource. college lecturers have i not had a pay rise since 2021, will you step — not had a pay rise since 2021, will you step in — not had a pay rise since 2021, will you step in and help the college lecturers? we you step in and help the college lecturers? ~ . you step in and help the college lecturers?— you step in and help the college lecturers? ~ . . ., lecturers? we are engaging and we want to see — lecturers? we are engaging and we want to see this _ lecturers? we are engaging and we want to see this resolved. - lecturers? we are engaging and we want to see this resolved. but - lecturers? we are engaging and we want to see this resolved. but at i want to see this resolved. but at the end of the day, this is why independence is not completely distinct from the core issue. that whether it is talking about immigration, the cost—of—living crisis... is immigration, the cost-of-living crisis... . immigration, the cost-of-living crisis... , . immigration, the cost-of-living crisis... . . ., crisis... is there anyone here for whom independence _ crisis... is there anyone here for whom independence will - crisis... is there anyone here for. whom independence will determine their vote or not? one, two. the gentleman with the microphone at the front, what do you make of this debate? i front, what do you make of this debate? ~' ,, . , . debate? i think the snp have been an absolute disaster _ debate? i think the snp have been an absolute disaster for _ debate? i think the snp have been an absolute disaster for scotland - debate? i think the snp have been an absolute disaster for scotland for - debate? i think the snp have been an absolute disaster for scotland for a i absolute disaster for scotland for a tong. _ absolute disaster for scotland for a tong. tong — absolute disaster for scotland for a long, long time. you look at our schools. — long, long time. you look at our schools, the education, nhs, the ferries, _ schools, the education, nhs, the ferries, the — schools, the education, nhs, the ferries, the amount of millions that are wasted — ferries, the amount of millions that are wasted on that. applause every time patrick harvie talks about — every time patrick harvie talks about the cost of living, every time you open— about the cost of living, every time you open your mouth, more tax, more tax, you open your mouth, more tax, more tax. more — you open your mouth, more tax, more tax. more tax. _ you open your mouth, more tax, more tax, more tax, he wanted to tax people — tax, more tax, he wanted to tax people just _ tax, more tax, he wanted to tax people just for parking at work,

£500 _ people just for parking at work, £500 a — people just for parking at work, £500 a year. that's working class people _ £500 a year. that's working class people like me. no. £500 a year. that's working class peeple like me— £500 a year. that's working class people like me. no. the workplace, it was for employers, _ people like me. no. the workplace, it was for employers, not _ it was for employers, not employees. you are disagreeing. the gentleman with the hat on, you want to say something?— with the hat on, you want to say somethin: ? , . ., �* something? independence, i don't think it is going — something? independence, i don't think it is going to _ something? independence, i don't think it is going to be _ something? independence, i don't think it is going to be part - something? independence, i don't think it is going to be part of- something? independence, i don't think it is going to be part of the i think it is going to be part of the solution — think it is going to be part of the solution to _ think it is going to be part of the solution. to fix _ think it is going to be part of the solution. to fix the _ think it is going to be part of the solution. to fix the problems i solution. to fix the problems of scottand~ — solution. to fix the problems of scotland. keep _ solution. to fix the problems of scotland. keep on _ solution. to fix the problems of scotland. keep on just - solution. to fix the problems of scotland. keep onjust ignoringj solution. to fix the problems of- scotland. keep onjust ignoring the fact that _ scotland. keep onjust ignoring the fact that voting... _ scotland. keep onjust ignoring the fact that voting... when _ scotland. keep onjust ignoring the fact that voting... when i - scotland. keep onjust ignoring the fact that voting... when i signed i fact that voting... when i signed up, fact that voting... when i signed up. i— fact that voting... when i signed up. i knew— fact that voting... when i signed up. i knew what— fact that voting... when i signed up, i knew what i— fact that voting... when i signed up, i knew what i was— fact that voting... when i signed up, i knew what i was getting, . fact that voting... when i signed up, i knew what i was getting, ii up, i knew what i was getting, i wanted — up, i knew what i was getting, i wanted an— up, i knew what i was getting, i wanted an independence - up, i knew what i was getting, i- wanted an independence referendum on the fact— wanted an independence referendum on the fact that _ wanted an independence referendum on the fact that you — wanted an independence referendum on the fact that you keep _ wanted an independence referendum on the fact that you keep ignoring - wanted an independence referendum on the fact that you keep ignoring the i the fact that you keep ignoring the fact and _ the fact that you keep ignoring the fact and dodging _ the fact that you keep ignoring the fact and dodging the _ the fact that you keep ignoring the fact and dodging the question- the fact that you keep ignoring the fact and dodging the question of. the fact that you keep ignoring the| fact and dodging the question of it. we have _ fact and dodging the question of it. we have had — fact and dodging the question of it. we have had one. _ fact and dodging the question of it. we have had one. infe— fact and dodging the question of it. we have had one.— fact and dodging the question of it. we have had one. we have an election eve five we have had one. we have an election every five years- _ we have had one. we have an election every five years. can _ we have had one. we have an election every five years. can a _ we have had one. we have an election every five years. can a take _ we have had one. we have an election every five years. can a take a - we have had one. we have an election every five years. can a take a quick- every five years. can a take a quick oint every five years. can a take a quick point from — every five years. can a take a quick point from the _ every five years. can a take a quick point from the young _ every five years. can a take a quick point from the young woman i every five years. can a take a quick point from the young woman at i every five years. can a take a quick| point from the young woman at the front? ., . ., , front? hi. so, more than one party here has been _ front? hi. so, more than one party here has been using _ front? hi. so, more than one party here has been using the _ front? hi. so, more than one party here has been using the word i front? hi. so, more than one party i here has been using the word changed an awful lot, and if we reflect on the last for years, for a lot of people, change has been really

frightening. i am people, change has been really frightening. lam here people, change has been really frightening. i am here as a member of living rent, and for example i know it is harking back to the cost of living crisis but it relates. the change in housing situation has been terrifying for many. the rent cap coming off has been terrifying. thank you so much for ending with such an incredibly important thing about the housing crisis, i'm afraid we have run right out of time and there we must leave it. thank you to our politicians and to everybody who took part tonight. and the audience here in glasgow. victoria is back on monday, on election week. have a great weekend, sleep well, good night. applause

you're watching bbc news, i'm mark lowen. nigel farage has faced repeated questions from a bbc audience about the racist language used by a canvasser for reform uk about rishi sunak. mr farage refused to apologise, saying that it was a set—up and a deliberate attempt to smear his party. mr sunak, who is of indian origin, said the language made him hurt and angry — and that nigel farage had questions to answer. the racist comments were secretly filmed and then broadcast by channel 4 while activists were campaigning for reform uk in clacton, where mr farage is standing. a warning this report byjoe pike contains offensive language. i'd like you to welcome the leader of reform uk, nigel farage. he is attempting a fightback as his party is hit with yet more accusations of racism. what is it about you and your party

that attracts racists and extremists, whether you say you want them or not? i've done more to drive the far right out of british politics i than anybody else alive. itook on the bnp, - just over a decade ago, i said to their voters, _ if this is a protest vote, you don't support their racist agenda, don't vote for them, - vote for me, we destroyed them. asked live on air about reform candidates who made offensive comments, he seemed to dismiss those standing. inherited a start—up party. why have they still been standing? they've been disowned. now it's notjust candidates but campaigners creating problems. one implied gay people are paedophiles. another suggested the army should shoot illegal immigrants.

and he used a racist slur to describe rishi sunak. andrew parker said he had not told nigel farage about his views and apologised if he had brought reform into disrepute. my two daughters have to see and hear reform people who campaign for nigel farage calling me a . it hurts and it makes me angry. i don't repeat those words lightly. i do so deliberately because this is too important not to call out clearly for what it is. earlier today we caught up with the reform leader. how are you doing? and he seemed keen to focus on one of the campaigners who he claims was acting. from the moment he arrived at the office at clacton last l saturday, he was rough speaking. you think it was faking it? he was acting from the moment

he came into the office. - i100% believe this whole thing is a total setup. i andrew parker has told us tonight he does not want to comment. he has done some acting in the past but today, we found no evidence he was acting in the covert recording. channel 4 news have said... nigel farage has been trying to get here for decades but he and his team know the distractions of the past couple of days have the potential to damage their campaign at precisely the moment when many floating voters are finally making up their minds. that's the future i foresee.

that i'm afraid i have to cut you off there. he has survived many similar storms before. will nigel farage weather this one or will it do damage to his party next week? joe pike, bbc news. and you can see a full list of the candidates standing in the clacton constituency on your screen now. if you are in a different constituency, you can check our website. well adrian ramsay, the co—leader of the green party, also appeared on the bbc�*s question time leaders special tonight, where he was asked about the day—to—day cost of the party's plans to combat climate change in areas such as transport. i think most people want to do the greener option, but the greener option has got to be the cheaper and more convenient option as well. so how would you make it cheaper, that's just what i'm wondering. there are huge subsidies that go into the aviation industry whilst we have some of the most expensive rail prices in europe. so one of the things we would do is to bring the railways back

into public ownership, which i think people would really like to see. adrian ramsey, co—leader of the green party there. let's dip into some of tomorrow's front pages. beginning with the financial times — which looks at the aftermath of that much discussed presidential debate, and president biden's decision to stay on in the race for the white house. meanwhile, the daily mail has focused on the uk general election — and former prime minister boris johnson — who has spoken out encouraging voters not to vote for keir starmer — which he says would be "starmergeddon" as he calls it. politics too on the front page of the independent — addressing the story about the reform uk canvasser caught on camera using an offensive slur — saying the incident has left rishi sunak "hurt and angry". the times also leads with the reform uk racism row — quoting the minister for women and equalities kemi badenoch — who in an interview with the paper says that nigel farage is only in the election race for the "limelight". moving on to the mirror —

which looks at the ongoing case of the missing teenager jay slater in tenerife. the paper says that in a video call on the morning of his disappearance, a friend saw him slipping down some rocks after walking off road. and we finish with the telegraph — which reports of growing pressure onjoe biden to win over democrats or stand down after a faltering performance on the debate stage in atlanta. a lovely story on the bottom as well about how grandparents in portugal outside of lisbon are being offered paid leave in a bid to boost portugal's birth rate. president biden has attempted to get back on the front foot — after a stumbling performance in his first televised presidential debate with donald trump. directly addressing concerns about his age, mr biden told a campaign rally he'd been knocked down but would get back up. but there's still alarm in democrat circles at his rambling during the debate — and calls from some for him to step

aside as the candidate. here's our north america editor sarah smith. the president of the united states, joe biden. is this old man up to the job? america wanted to know. as soon as he opened his mouth, the doubts began to grow. the, er...with the covid...excuse me, with dealing with everything we have to do with, er... look. . . if. .. we finally beat medicare. he was hard to hear and sounded confused. this is him talking about immigration. the total initiative relative to what we're going to do with more border patrol and more asylum officers. president trump? i really don't know what he said at the end of that sentence, i i don't think he knows what he said either. l one ofjoe biden's strongest issues should be abortion, but he couldn't even score on that, rambling on instead about a different topic.

look, there's so many young women, including a young woman who just was murdered and he went to the funeral... why, after a week of intense preparation, did he not have a great answer ready on what's a winning issue for democrats? immediately afterwards the senior democrats who were sent out to talk to the press did not have any convincing excuses for that disastrous performance. yes, the president may have had a minor cold, yes, maybe the president's voice was a little scratchy. who cares? is that the best president biden can do? is that what voters can expect for another four years of president biden? voters see president biden every single day, let's not forget, like, it's not like voters are seeing president bidenjust in debate. that's why he had to try and reassure them tonight. they see him in press conference, see him at events, campaign events, rallies. donald trump's performance was riddled with dozens of lies. the problem they have is they're radical because they will take i the life of a child in the eighth month, the ninth month, i and even after birth.

we have the greatest economy in the history of our country, i we have never done so well. everybody was amazed by it. other countries were copying us. we now have the largest deficit in the history i of our country under this guy. none of that is true. and joe biden did land some punches, one on donald trump's behaviour towards women. how many billions of dollars do you owe in civil penalties, for molesting a woman in public, for doing a whole range of things, of having sex with a pawn star on the night, while your wife was pregnant? what are you talking about? you have the morals of an alley cat. sir? i didn't have sex with- a porn star, number one. president biden described visiting a world war i cemetery in france that donald trump refused to enter. he was standing with his a—star general and he told me, he said, i don't want to go in there because they are a bunch of losers and suckers. my son was not a loser, was not a sucker, you are the sucker, you are the loser. president trump? first of all, that -

was a made—up quote. suckers and losers, they made it up. inside this huge press scrum are two democratic rising stars. and we all want to know if either of them might now step in and take over as their party's candidate. our nominee isjoe biden, i'm looking forward to voting for him in november. democrats are clinging to the hope that before the election this disaster could fade from voters' memories. with debates much closer to the general election, ronald reagan, having lost his first debate overwhelmingly went on to win, barack obama, having lost his first debate overwhelmingly, went on to win. this is not particularly unusual. a far more energised joe biden appeared at a campaign rally today. i don't walk as easy as i used to, i don't speak as smoothly as i used to. i don't debate as well as i used to, but i know what i do know. i know how to tell the truth! cheering.

he is clearly determined to continue, doing what he can to try to move on from this debate debacle. the jury in the trial of gavin plumb, the security guard accused of hatching a plan to kidnap, rape and murder the television presenter holly willoughby has been shown a video of the moment he was arrested. 3"+ plumb took to the stand at chelmsford crown court for the first time, and said his online messages plumb took to the stand at chelmsford crown court for the first time, and said his online messages about the alleged plot were �*massively regrettable' and that he was never going to carry out the abduction. he denies all the charges. now for something lighter. dua lipa has rounded out a huge first official day at glastonbury. the singer wrapped up her headline performance on the pyramid stage in front of a packed crowd a short time ago. the set featured a surprise performance from tame impala's kevin parker.

a whopping 200,000+ people are expected at the event — the biggest music festival in the uk. history was made too — with band "seventeen" becoming the first k—pop group to perform at the glastonbury. very jealous. now on bbc news its time for newscast with adam flemming and kirsty wark in glasgow hello. so newscast is doing this feature during the election called remote voter, where we find out why people are not at home on the 11th ofjuly. and so they've had to apply for a postal vote. i'm kind of doing that in real life because we're doing this episode of newscast, not in the newscast studio, but in this amazing venue, which is in glasgow. and it's where newsnight is going to come from live on friday night, which means it's hosted by kirsty wark. and isn't it magnificent? it's lovely. this is the original fruit market of glasgow 18m. and this is where you come to gigs. i've been here ever since. oh no, but you come

to gigs here, don't you? yeah. the last gig was the staves. that was a while ago. but i've been to weddings in here. i've been, you know, everything. you've played the violin in here. not actually in here, but in the other venue next door. it was where we had all our school concerts. did you sing? quite nostalgic for me. i did sing, like we'd have our christmas carol concert in there. it is an incredible venue from the sort of the early era of newsnight, really. yes. um, so nice to be reminded of that period, really. yeah, i know, but look, we've got branding everywhere now. i know, at least it's the right letter. like we start with the same letter. we're so american, aren't we? do you ever get confused for newscast? um, well, as far as i know, i don't have a moustache. anyway, so i talked about our feature remoter voter. um, would you like to play today's remote voter? yeah. let's play. shall i go first? no, no, no, we have to do it in order, you see. ok, here we go. so, kirsty, you've got the remote voter. that's the person who's not too far away from home. but this is weird, right? 0k. tom in stroud says, "i am going to be a remote voter.

"i'll only be about 30 miles from home. "but the democracy geek that i am, i'll be working as a polling station inspector in bristol". right. so why not be a polling station inspector near where you live 30 miles away and vote? why is it just. .. can i be a radio geek and remind you to hold your microphone? so why is he? why is he just not registered to vote in bristol where he's going to be an inspector? so he has a postal vote, then he goes to bristol? well, i reckon he's so devoted to his duty, he's going to be in the polling station from 7am to 10pm anyway. tom can get in touch and explain and forward his email on to you. ask tom... yeah. what is so exciting about being in a polling station from seven in the morning to ten? i mean, i think that's taking his actual public duty very seriously. i like that. very seriously. yes. right. nick, have you got our remote voter? i've got a remote voter, heather, who's going to be much further away. so here's what heather says. "i'm a regular newscast listener and excited for the election". i'm going to read that again.

please do. i've got remote voter heather, who's much further away, and she says "i'm a regular newscast listener and excited for the election"! "however, i will be a macgillycuddy's reeks in the republic of ireland, climbing the highest peaks of ireland at the time of the election. "so i will be voting by postal vote for the very first time. "i would usually stay up and watch the election night coverage, but we will be camping so that won't be possible. "but hopefully i will find some 56 to listen to newscast on the 5th ofjuly. "so it's all down to you, adam, to explain the election on the 5th ofjuly". gosh, what a sock she is. she is explain what that word means for non—scots. 0k. sucker. right you are on quite fiery form tonight. anyway, right, i've got... i thought remoter voter was a heavy metal band. you saw here in like 1989. right, and i've got the remotest voter, which is kira. she says, "my partner and i will be in hawaii, so we're looking forward to being able to follow the full results without having to stay up throughout the night. "we'll definitely add to the total miles of newscasters.

"thank you for making this election much more interesting".