it's the eve of the last full day of campaigning and millions of you are still undecided about how you're going to vote. who are the undecideds and what difference could they make to the result? and... crowd: boris! boris! - thank you very much. boris johnson finally pitches up for the conservative campaign. will it make a difference? welcome to newsnight for your interviews and insight live each weeknight. your political panel this evening — award—winning playwright and screenwriter james graham. his most recent work, dear england, is about how gareth southgate transformed the england team — are there any lessons politicians could learn from mr southgate? james graham describes himself

as a "total political nerd". salma shah, former advisor to conservative cabinet minister sajid javid, luke tryll from the pollsters more in common, and baroness ayesha hazarika, labour peer. two days to go until polls open and borisjohnson finally turns up on the campaign trail — at a rally with the pm in chelsea, london, in the last hour. we'll talk about that in a moment. also tonight — there are still so many of you as yet undecided — we'll bring you some facts on that tonight, talk about what the parties are doing last minute to fight for your vote, and we'll look back at some of the moments from this election campaign. first, here's what borisjohnson had to say tonight. if you want to protect our democracy and our economy, and keep this country strong abroad by spending 2.5% of our gdp on defence, which labour still refuses to commit to, then you know what to do, don't you, everybody? cheering.

there's only one thing to do — vote conservative on thursday, my friends! let's talk to nick, who's at the conservative rally in central london tonight. nick, tell us about that unexpected borisjohnson appearance. well, as you said, it all kicked off an hour ago. when i turned up here at the national army museum, one of rishi sunak�*s key senior aides gave me a great big bear hug and i thought, what's that about, is a brave face will those opinion polls? no, they looked really happy that all was revealed. there it was, borisjohnson appeared on the stage under a helicopter. interestingly, he didn't appear on the stage at the same time as rishi sunak. he said, she has asked me to join the campaign and that was what he was doing in the final 48 hours. boris johnson left and then rishi sunak appeared separately. in that speech by borisjohnson, it was a classic borisjohnson speech. he got over

what he regarded as his key message, don't let the putinistas let the corbynistas in. he meant, by voting for a sport, don't let keir starmer in, who voted forjeremy corbyn. borisjohnson did partly blame the european union for putting invading ukraine. the conservatives believe that if they can persuade 135,000 voters not to vote for reform uk, you could turn what they call a labour supermajority into not a majority. afterwards, i caught up with michael gove. michael gove, it took some time but finally, my borisjohnson makes an appearance and a great rallying cry to the nation or a desperate last throw of the dash to get those

people not to vote for reform? i think boris and rishi are the bellingham and kane of this election. just when everyone was thinking — election. just when everyone was thinking it— election. just when everyone was thinking it was all over, you have two members of great conservative team _ two members of great conservative team nokia out of the park. a great conservative _ team nokia out of the park. a great conservative team, _ team nokia out of the park. a great conservative team, but _ team nokia out of the park. a great conservative team, but not - team nokia out of the park. a great conservative team, but not able to | conservative team, but not able to be on the platform together, a distant, wasn't it?— be on the platform together, a distant, wasn't it? no. boris gave a full throated. _ distant, wasn't it? no. boris gave a full throated, energetic _ distant, wasn't it? no. boris gave a full throated, energetic and - full throated, energetic and passionate fullthroated, energetic and passionate defence of what we have achieved _ passionate defence of what we have achieved together in government. and as he said. _ achieved together in government. and as he said, he wasn't going to miss this moment — as he said, he wasn't going to miss this moment when rishi asked him in order_ this moment when rishi asked him in order to _ this moment when rishi asked him in order to make it clear what the choice — order to make it clear what the choice at — order to make it clear what the choice at this election is, between a labour— choice at this election is, between a labour government intent on increasing _ a labour government intent on increasing taxes and which would use a supermajority to rid the system in its favour _ a supermajority to rid the system in its favour if — a supermajority to rid the system in its favour if given one, or conservatives who would defend cutting _ conservatives who would defend cutting taxes. i conservatives who would defend cutting taxes— conservatives who would defend cutting taxes. i didn't hear a huge amount of praise _ cutting taxes. i didn't hear a huge amount of praise of— cutting taxes. i didn't hear a huge amount of praise of rishi - cutting taxes. i didn't hear a huge amount of praise of rishi sunak. l amount of praise of rishi sunak. they are not soulmates, are they? there are two members of the great conservative team and they have worked _ conservative team and they have worked incredibly well together to

deliver— worked incredibly well together to deliver the fastest vaccine roll—out in europe, — deliver the fastest vaccine roll—out in europe, in order to make sure the furiough _ in europe, in order to make sure the furlough programme we had during covid _ furlough programme we had during covid was _ furlough programme we had during covid was more generous than the whole _ covid was more generous than the whole of— covid was more generous than the whole of europe, and they are also working _ whole of europe, and they are also working together now to alert people to the _ working together now to alert people to the risks of labour having a mandate — to the risks of labour having a mandate to make the sort of changes to our— mandate to make the sort of changes to our economy, our constitution and on the _ to our economy, our constitution and on the international stage that will leave _ on the international stage that will leave britain poorer, weaker unmodified to.— leave britain poorer, weaker unmodified to. �* �* ., ,, unmodified to. and you're talking about the dangers _ unmodified to. and you're talking about the dangers of _ unmodified to. and you're talking about the dangers of what - unmodified to. and you're talking about the dangers of what you . unmodified to. and you're talking | about the dangers of what you call unmodified to. and you're talking i about the dangers of what you call a labour supermajority. this conservative campaign isn't now about trying to form a conservative government, is it? it's about holding back the size of a labour victory. holding back the size of a labour victo . ~ ., .,, ., victory. well, there are opinion olls victory. well, there are opinion polls that _ victory. well, there are opinion polls that do — victory. well, there are opinion polls that do point to _ victory. well, there are opinion polls that do point to the - victory. well, there are opinion i polls that do point to the potential for keir— polls that do point to the potential for keir starmer to have the sort of sweeping _ for keir starmer to have the sort of sweeping powers that i know he would like. sweeping powers that i know he would iike~ i_ sweeping powers that i know he would like i want _ sweeping powers that i know he would like. i want everyone to recognise that over— like. i want everyone to recognise that over the last 14 years, the conservatives have delivered improved education, improved welfare. — improved education, improved welfare, managed to reduce crime, -ot welfare, managed to reduce crime, got that— welfare, managed to reduce crime, got that great vaccine roll—out,

make _ got that great vaccine roll—out, make sure _ got that great vaccine roll—out, make sure we stood shoulder to shoulder— make sure we stood shoulder to shoulder with volodymyr ziellinski. keir starmer was the guy who tried to getjeremy corbyn keir starmer was the guy who tried to get jeremy corbyn to become prime minister— to get jeremy corbyn to become prime minister and the key choice that he -ot minister and the key choice that he got wrong — minister and the key choice that he got wrong in 2017 and 2019 is a mistake — got wrong in 2017 and 2019 is a mistake that i would not want him to make _ mistake that i would not want him to make again — mistake that i would not want him to make again. but mistake that i would not want him to make again-— make again. but this conservative cam aiun make again. but this conservative campaign isn't _ make again. but this conservative campaign isn't about _ make again. but this conservative campaign isn't about keeping - make again. but this conservative | campaign isn't about keeping rishi sunak in numberten, campaign isn't about keeping rishi sunak in number ten, it's about clipping the wings of keir starmer, isn't it? . �* , clipping the wings of keir starmer, isn't it? ., �*, .,. , clipping the wings of keir starmer, isn't it? ., �*, , ., isn't it? that's exactly what i said. i said, _ isn't it? that's exactly what i said. i said, let's— isn't it? that's exactly what i said. i said, let's get - isn't it? that's exactly what i said. i said, let's get rishi i isn't it? that's exactly what i i said. i said, let's get rishi back in number— said. i said, let's get rishi back in number ten said. i said, let's get rishi back in numberten as said. i said, let's get rishi back in number ten as prime minister. thats— in number ten as prime minister. that's what— in number ten as prime minister. that's what i'm trying to do. so that borisjohnson appears will dominate headlines tomorrow, but we will be seeing a lot of keir starmer around the country tomorrow. we have heard what i call message will be from labour. it will be, don't forget, one rule for them, another rule for everyone else. don't forget the economic chaos for which british people are still paying the price finally, they will say the core message from labour is, change will only come if you vote labour, they say.

only come if you vote labour, they sa . . only come if you vote labour, they sa , ., " , only come if you vote labour, they say. thanks, nick. luke tryll, can boris johnson _ say. thanks, nick. luke tryll, can boris johnson turning _ say. thanks, nick. luke tryll, can boris johnson turning up - say. thanks, nick. luke tryll, can boris johnson turning up for- say. thanks, nick. luke tryll, can boris johnson turning up for the i borisjohnson turning up for the conservatives even though he is not on the same stage as rishi sunak make a difference in the last 24 hours of campaigning?- make a difference in the last 24 hours of campaigning? well, we know boris johnson — hours of campaigning? well, we know boris johnson isn't _ hours of campaigning? well, we know boris johnson isn't universally - boris johnson isn't universally popular, borisjohnson isn't universally popular, but what you do find in the polling and focus groups is that there are two groups where he has a particular appeal. they are disgruntled conservatives who are thinking about going to reform uk and some disgruntled conservatives who are thinking about not voting. that will have been who that message from borisjohnson was squarely aimed at, a group the conservatives really need to get back if they are to avoid those worst projections of catastrophic defeat. so i think it will have juiced up the base and will have juiced up the base and will get a few more people out for the conservatives on election day. what do you think, salma shah, is a former conservative adviser to a conservative cabinet minister? boris johnson finally comes back from holiday to help the conservative party. holiday to help the conservative pa . ., ., ._ ,

holiday to help the conservative pa . ., ., party. there are two ways you could ut this. party. there are two ways you could put this- one _ party. there are two ways you could put this- one is _ party. there are two ways you could put this. one is too _ party. there are two ways you could put this. one is too little, _ party. there are two ways you could put this. one is too little, too - put this. one is too little, too late, — put this. one is too little, too late, and _ put this. one is too little, too late, and the other is better late than _ late, and the other is better late than never~ _ late, and the other is better late than never. there will be lots of conservatives who will fall into either — conservatives who will fall into either of — conservatives who will fall into either of those categories. for me, i understand what luke is saying. i think— i understand what luke is saying. i think there — i understand what luke is saying. i think there is merit in that and i understand that it's about bringing the reform vote that has leaked away from us _ the reform vote that has leaked away from us back in, and boris is probably— from us back in, and boris is probably only politician who can do that on— probably only politician who can do that on the — probably only politician who can do that on the conservative benches currentiv — that on the conservative benches currently. the downside of that is that the _ currently. the downside of that is that the conservatives who are more centrist _ that the conservatives who are more centrist iike — that the conservatives who are more centrist like me are also still annoved _ centrist like me are also still annoyed at borisjohnson centrist like me are also still annoyed at boris johnson about what he brought— annoyed at boris johnson about what he brought about that has ended up with a _ he brought about that has ended up with a great victory in 2019 that he was at _ with a great victory in 2019 that he was at the — with a great victory in 2019 that he was at the head of, that is now looking — was at the head of, that is now looking potentially like a complete disaster— looking potentially like a complete disaster for the conservatives. so there's— disaster for the conservatives. so there's going to be mixed emotions about— there's going to be mixed emotions about borisjohnson's intervention, about boris johnson's intervention, notjust_ about borisjohnson's intervention, notjust from about borisjohnson's intervention, not just from conservative voters, but people — not just from conservative voters, but people who are active in the past _ but people who are active in the past iike — but people who are active in the past like me. but people who are active in the past like me— but people who are active in the ast like me. g , ., ., ., past like me. ayesha hazarika, when ou see past like me. ayesha hazarika, when you see boris — past like me. ayesha hazarika, when you see boris johnson _ past like me. ayesha hazarika, when you see boris johnson back—

past like me. ayesha hazarika, when you see boris johnson back on - past like me. ayesha hazarika, when you see boris johnson back on the i you see borisjohnson back on the campaign trail, what do you think is a labour peer? i campaign trail, what do you think is a labour peer?— campaign trail, what do you think is a labour peer? i think desperate and undignified. — a labour peer? i think desperate and undignified, which _ a labour peer? i think desperate and undignified, which is _ a labour peer? i think desperate and undignified, which is where - a labour peer? i think desperate and undignified, which is where the - undignified, which is where the conservative _ undignified, which is where the conservative campaign - undignified, which is where the conservative campaign is - undignified, which is where the conservative campaign is rightl undignified, which is where the - conservative campaign is right now. and i_ conservative campaign is right now. and i think— conservative campaign is right now. and i think the _ conservative campaign is right now. and i think the spectre _ conservative campaign is right now. and i think the spectre of— conservative campaign is right now. and i think the spectre of boris - and i think the spectre of boris johnson — and i think the spectre of boris johnson delivering _ and i think the spectre of boris johnson delivering his - and i think the spectre of boris johnson delivering his blusterl and i think the spectre of boris i johnson delivering his bluster will only serve — johnson delivering his bluster will only serve to _ johnson delivering his bluster will only serve to remind _ johnson delivering his bluster will only serve to remind people - johnson delivering his bluster will only serve to remind people up. johnson delivering his bluster will. only serve to remind people up and down _ only serve to remind people up and down the _ only serve to remind people up and down the country _ only serve to remind people up and down the country about _ only serve to remind people up and down the country about the - only serve to remind people up and down the country about the 14 - only serve to remind people up andl down the country about the 14 years of economic. — down the country about the 14 years of economic, political, _ down the country about the 14 years of economic, political, social- of economic, political, social vandalism _ of economic, political, social vandalism that _ of economic, political, social vandalism that the _ of economic, political, social vandalism that the tories - of economic, political, social. vandalism that the tories have wrought— vandalism that the tories have wrought on— vandalism that the tories have wrought on this _ vandalism that the tories have wrought on this country. - vandalism that the tories have wrought on this country. i'm i vandalism that the tories have - wrought on this country. i'm afraid boris _ wrought on this country. i'm afraid borisjohnson, _ wrought on this country. i'm afraid borisjohnson, along _ wrought on this country. i'm afraid boris johnson, along with - wrought on this country. i'm afraid borisjohnson, along with liz- borisjohnson, along with liz truss, the boris _ borisjohnson, along with liz truss, the borisjohnson _ borisjohnson, along with liz truss, the borisjohnson is _ borisjohnson, along with liz truss, the borisjohnson is really- borisjohnson, along with liz truss, the borisjohnson is really the - the borisjohnson is really the poster— the borisjohnson is really the poster boy— the borisjohnson is really the poster boy for _ the borisjohnson is really the poster boy for that _ the borisjohnson is really the poster boy for that when - the borisjohnson is really the poster boy for that when you i the borisjohnson is really the - poster boy for that when you think about— poster boy for that when you think about things — poster boy for that when you think about things like _ poster boy for that when you think about things like partygate, - poster boy for that when you think about things like partygate, whenl about things like partygate, when you think— about things like partygate, when you think about _ about things like partygate, when you think about all— about things like partygate, when you think about all he _ about things like partygate, when you think about all he did - about things like partygate, when you think about all he did to - about things like partygate, when you think about all he did to the l you think about all he did to the constitution, _ you think about all he did to the constitution, when _ you think about all he did to the constitution, when you - you think about all he did to the constitution, when you think - constitution, when you think about how he _ constitution, when you think about how he handled _ constitution, when you think about how he handled covid. _ constitution, when you think about how he handled covid. there - constitution, when you think about how he handled covid. there are i constitution, when you think about how he handled covid. there are a| how he handled covid. there are a lot of— how he handled covid. there are a lot of peopie — how he handled covid. there are a lot of peopie up _ how he handled covid. there are a lot of people up and _ how he handled covid. there are a lot of people up and down - how he handled covid. there are a lot of people up and down the - lot of people up and down the country. — lot of people up and down the country. yes, _ lot of people up and down the country, yes, there _ lot of people up and down the country, yes, there is - lot of people up and down the country, yes, there is a - lot of people up and down the country, yes, there is a small| country, yes, there is a small number— country, yes, there is a small number of— country, yes, there is a small number of people _ country, yes, there is a small number of people who - 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seeing his face is going to make - people think they want a change from all this _ people think they want a change from all this. , . , people think they want a change from all this. , ., , , ., ., .,, ., all this. james graham, as a playwright. _ all this. james graham, as a playwright. in _ all this. james graham, as a playwright, in your- all this. james graham, as a playwright, in yourjob - all this. james graham, as a playwright, in yourjob you l all this. james graham, as a - playwright, in yourjob you have to sum up the mood of the nation sometimes. i'm going to ask you to do it now. it’s sometimes. i'm going to ask you to do it now. �* , ., sometimes. i'm going to ask you to do itnow. �*, ., sometimes. i'm going to ask you to do it now— sorry - sometimes. i'm going to ask you to do it now._ sorry to i do it now. it's not easy. sorry to ut ou do it now. it's not easy. sorry to put you on _ do it now. it's not easy. sorry to put you on the _ do it now. it's not easy. sorry to put you on the spot, _ do it now. it's not easy. sorry to put you on the spot, but - do it now. it's not easy. sorry to put you on the spot, but what i do it now. it's not easy. sorry to. put you on the spot, but what are you feeling right now? lots put you on the spot, but what are you feeling right now?— you feeling right now? lots of thins. i you feeling right now? lots of things. i wasn't _ you feeling right now? lots of things. i wasn't expecting - you feeling right now? lots of. things. i wasn't expecting that. you feeling right now? lots of - things. iwasn't expecting that. in things. i wasn't expecting that. in my world of tv drama, bringing boris johnson back is like when eastenders brings cindy beale back when ratings are suffering. do something dramatic. are suffering. do something dramatic-— are suffering. do something dramatic. �*, ., , _ dramatic. it's not bobby ewing in the shower- _ dramatic. it's not bobby ewing in the shower. for— dramatic. it's not bobby ewing in the shower. for younger - dramatic. it's not bobby ewing in| the shower. for younger viewers, dramatic. it's not bobby ewing in - the shower. for younger viewers, you have to catch — the shower. for younger viewers, you have to catch that _ the shower. for younger viewers, you have to catch that on _ the shower. for younger viewers, you have to catch that on youtube. - have to catch that on youtube. honestly, ifeel have to catch that on youtube. honestly, i feel exhausted. as have to catch that on youtube. honestly, ifeel exhausted. as you say, i'm a political nerd and i love the cut and thrust of politics and i am excited. whatever we think about the campaign, how interesting it was, did it shift in the way 2017 did, not really. whether any iconic moments like gillian duffy in possibly not. but i think what is about to happen is going to be

seismic. it is historic when a government changes in this country. if that happens. not a vote has been cast. i if that happens. not a vote has been cast. ~' ., if that happens. not a vote has been cast. ~ ., , ., ., cast. i know there is a level of susoense. _ cast. i know there is a level of suspense, but _ cast. i know there is a level of suspense, but in _ cast. i know there is a level of suspense, but in the - cast. i know there is a level of suspense, but in the past - cast. i know there is a level of suspense, but in the past 50 i cast. i know there is a level of - suspense, but in the past 50 years, the government has only changed three times. it doesn't happen often, it happens. there are going to be so many twists and turns on the night. in terms of the spirit of the night. in terms of the spirit of the nation, it hasn't been a happy, healthy 14 years. there have been ups and downs, but depending on your politics, it really feels like the mood of the country is incredibly despondent and disenfranchised. i can only assume that that is because, in theatre we talk about this thing, catharsis, which is when you go through a series of dramatic events. there is because and event and logical consequences, and that gives you a certain amount of release that means you can deal with that trauma and move on. i think there has been something about the last traumatic, chaotic and unstable periods of national life which feels like every time we think there is about to be a reset, there isn't

one. any moment of calm gets immediately snatched away from us. more importantly, any time we are promised, you are going to get back control or this is going to happen, people haven't seen any significant shift. and i think that robs us of what drama gives us, which is a consequence and then that satisfaction that you can look back at it and reflect. so even though we are about possibly to be in his moment of great transition which is historic, you don't yet feel that people are hopeful, excited and looking forward. i think we are all just really tired. you looking forward. i think we are all just really tired.— just really tired. you talk about --eole just really tired. you talk about people feeling _ just really tired. you talk about people feeling despondent. - just really tired. you talk about i people feeling despondent. there just really tired. you talk about - people feeling despondent. there are people feeling despondent. there are people feeling despondent about the prospects of a potential labour government, salma shah. what's interestinu government, salma shah. what's interesting about _ government, salma shah. what's interesting about what _ government, salma shah. what's interesting about what you - government, salma shah. what's interesting about what you just i government, salma shah. what's l interesting about what you just said is, building that narrative arc, peopie — is, building that narrative arc, people like luke and even ayesha did that to _ people like luke and even ayesha did that to an— people like luke and even ayesha did that to an extent when we were advisers — that to an extent when we were advisers in _ that to an extent when we were advisers in government, or spin doctors — advisers in government, or spin doctors. we were trying to create that storyline. but the reality is, politics. — that storyline. but the reality is, politics, like life, is messy. that's—

politics, like life, is messy. that's why you have written so many award—winning tv dramas about politics. award-winning tv dramas about olitics. �* , , award-winning tv dramas about olitics. �* , . politics. because there is so much mess. i understand _ politics. because there is so much mess. i understand that _ politics. because there is so much mess. i understand that point - politics. because there is so much mess. i understand that point of l mess. i understand that point of catharsis — mess. i understand that point of catharsis. to reference what ayesha said, _ catharsis. to reference what ayesha said. boris— catharsis. to reference what ayesha said, borisjohnson appears catharsis. to reference what ayesha said, boris johnson appears and you forget _ said, boris johnson appears and you forget everything that came before it. forget everything that came before it you _ forget everything that came before it. you forget the fact that the tories — it. you forget the fact that the tories won with a small majority in 2015 _ tories won with a small majority in 2015 you — tories won with a small majority in 2015. you forget that we were on an economic— 2015. you forget that we were on an economic road to recovery. all that stuff is _ economic road to recovery. all that stuff is shifted away. gf economic road to recovery. all that stuff is shifted away.— stuff is shifted away. of course, and i appreciate _ stuff is shifted away. of course, and i appreciate like _ stuff is shifted away. of course, and i appreciate like most - stuff is shifted away. of course, | and i appreciate like most voters that external factors always come into place like the pandemic and ukraine. unlike a character in a tv drama or a play, everyone is not always the agent of their own change. i come from a red wall seat and i was one of the seats in ashfield in 2019 that swung away from labour towards borisjohnson because of the boris johnson because of the borisjohnson effect. so i get the electoral logic of bringing him back. but it does remind me, five prime ministers in nine years is not a normal thing for the longest functioning democracy to

have. we the longest functioning democracy to have. ~ . . , the longest functioning democracy to have. . ., ., , ., have. we have all been out doorknocking _ have. we have all been out doorknocking and - have. we have all been out doorknocking and speaking j have. we have all been out i doorknocking and speaking to have. we have all been out _ doorknocking and speaking to people. ithink— doorknocking and speaking to people. i think wherever— doorknocking and speaking to people. i think wherever you _ doorknocking and speaking to people. i think wherever you are _ doorknocking and speaking to people. i think wherever you are in— doorknocking and speaking to people. i think wherever you are in british - i think wherever you are in british society— i think wherever you are in british society right — i think wherever you are in british society right now, _ i think wherever you are in british society right now, unless - i think wherever you are in british society right now, unless you - i think wherever you are in british society right now, unless you are | society right now, unless you are absolutely — society right now, unless you are absolutely part _ society right now, unless you are absolutely part of— society right now, unless you are absolutely part of that _ society right now, unless you are absolutely part of that super - absolutely part of that super wealthy _ absolutely part of that super wealthy elite _ absolutely part of that super wealthy elite at _ absolutely part of that super wealthy elite at the - absolutely part of that super wealthy elite at the top, - absolutely part of that super wealthy elite at the top, the| wealthy elite at the top, the general— wealthy elite at the top, the general lived _ wealthy elite at the top, the general lived experience - wealthy elite at the top, the general lived experience ofi general lived experience of everybody _ general lived experience of everybody is _ general lived experience of everybody is that _ general lived experience of everybody is that it - general lived experience of everybody is that it feels i general lived experience of. everybody is that it feels like something _ everybody is that it feels like something has— everybody is that it feels like something has gone - everybody is that it feels like something has gone badly. everybody is that it feels like - something has gone badly wrong with this country. everything _ something has gone badly wrong with this country. everything is an - this country. everything is an endurance test, _ this country. everything is an endurance test, whether it'sl endurance test, whether it's trying to get— endurance test, whether it's trying to get your— endurance test, whether it's trying to get your child _ endurance test, whether it's trying to get your child into _ endurance test, whether it's trying to get your child into school, - endurance test, whether it's trying to get your child into school, yourl to get your child into school, your kid trying — to get your child into school, your kid trying to — to get your child into school, your kid trying to get _ to get your child into school, your kid trying to get on _ to get your child into school, your kid trying to get on the _ to get your child into school, your kid trying to get on the housing i kid trying to get on the housing ladder. — kid trying to get on the housing ladder. getting _ kid trying to get on the housing ladder, getting a _ kid trying to get on the housing ladder, getting a doctor's- ladder, getting a doctor's appointment. _ ladder, getting a doctor's appointment, getting - ladder, getting a doctor's appointment, getting the ladder, getting a doctor's- appointment, getting the police to come to— appointment, getting the police to come to your— appointment, getting the police to come to your house _ appointment, getting the police to come to your house when - appointment, getting the police to come to your house when it - appointment, getting the police to. come to your house when it is broken into _ come to your house when it is broken into. ~' , ., come to your house when it is broken into. ~' i. ., come to your house when it is broken into. ~' i., ., ., , come to your house when it is broken into. ~' ., ., , , into. luke, you do many focus u-rous. into. luke, you do many focus 9"°ups- is— into. luke, you do many focus groups. is that _ into. luke, you do many focus groups. is that what _ into. luke, you do many focus groups. is that what people i into. luke, you do many focusl groups. is that what people say into. luke, you do many focus - groups. is that what people say to you? spot on. we ask people to try to sum up spot on. we ask people to try to sum up the country in a word following every focus group, and the most common word is broken, followed by chaotic, difficult, shambles. so whoever wins the election will have a big job notjust in terms of

policy delivered in terms of rebuilding trust that actually politics can make a difference. let's ask about these undecided voters, then. who are they? are there loads of them? can they make a difference, and in what way, luke? about 10% of likely voters are undecided. so about 1096 of likely voters are undecided-— about 1096 of likely voters are undecided. ., , undecided. so millions of people? yes, in a undecided. so millions of people? yes. in a grouo — undecided. so millions of people? yes, in a group of _ undecided. so millions of people? yes, in a group of people, - undecided. so millions of people? yes, in a group of people, which l undecided. so millions of people? | yes, in a group of people, which is not particularly unusual. what is unusual as the profile of those undecided voters. they are overwhelmingly people who voted conservative in 2019. so you might think of lots of them as disgruntled conservatives. but there are also overwhelmingly women, they tend to be slightly older, and they will be the focus of the campaigns, particularly the conservatives'. .. we can see that on your graph there, 55% voted conservative in 2019 and say they are currently undecided. absolutely, so the conservatives have two jobs in that group, one is

just getting them to turn out, like in the 1997, lots of former conservative voters just did not vote, which contributed towards labour's landslide. then they have to get them to go out and vote for the conservatives. band to get them to go out and vote for the conservatives.— the conservatives. and i think the interesting _ the conservatives. and i think the interesting issue _ the conservatives. and i think the interesting issue with _ the conservatives. and i think the interesting issue with that, - interesting issue with that, certainly a couple of focus groups i sat in _ certainly a couple of focus groups i sat in on. — certainly a couple of focus groups i sat in on, this was a while ago, in that— sat in on, this was a while ago, in that blue — sat in on, this was a while ago, in that blue wall area, where the conservatives have done really weiim — conservatives have done really well... ~ ., ., conservatives have done really well... ., ., , conservatives have done really well... ~ ., ., , ,., conservatives have done really well... ., ., well... what sort of places are you talkin: well... what sort of places are you talking about? _ well... what sort of places are you talking about? sorry _ well... what sort of places are you talking about? sorry in _ well... what sort of places are you talking about? sorry in places - well... what sort of places are you talking about? sorry in places like| talking about? sorry in places like that. it talking about? sorry in places like that- it was _ talking about? sorry in places like that. it was actually _ talking about? sorry in places like that. it was actually quite - talking about? sorry in places like that. it was actually quite a - talking about? sorry in places like that. it was actually quite a lot i talking about? sorry in places like that. it was actually quite a lot of| that. it was actually quite a lot of mothers. — that. it was actually quite a lot of mothers, olderwomen, who were saying. _ mothers, olderwomen, who were saying. this — mothers, olderwomen, who were saying, this was after the mini budget. — saying, this was after the mini budget, they were so furious about their mortgages going up, and loads of peopie _ their mortgages going up, and loads of people having to remortgage at the moment. —— surrey and places like that — the moment. —— surrey and places like that. there something very particular— like that. there something very particular to people like that. mortgages are something across the country. _ mortgages are something across the country, but they felt a real betrayai _ country, but they felt a real betrayal of conservative values, because — betrayal of conservative values, because they felt that conservatives should _ because they felt that conservatives should not be messing with our mortgages, that should not happen under— mortgages, that should not happen under a _ mortgages, that should not happen under a conservative government, and then at— under a conservative government, and then at the _ under a conservative government, and then at the mini budget happened.

and you _ then at the mini budget happened. and you all know, salma shah, that coincided with the moment when labour became more trust on the economy than the conservatives, and that position is maintained for the last two years. that position is maintained for the last two years-— last two years. absolutely, and i fit the profile _ last two years. absolutely, and i fit the profile of _ last two years. absolutely, and i fit the profile of the _ last two years. absolutely, and i fit the profile of the 5596, - last two years. absolutely, and i l fit the profile of the 5596, although fit the profile of the 55%, although i do fit the profile of the 55%, although i do know— fit the profile of the 55%, although i do know which _ fit the profile of the 55%, although i do know which way— fit the profile of the 55%, although i do know which way i— fit the profile of the 55%, although i do know which way i will- fit the profile of the 55%, although i do know which way i will be - i do know which way i will be voting — i do know which way i will be voting but _ i do know which way i will be voting but i _ i do know which way i will be voting. but i think— i do know which way i will be voting. but i think the - i do know which way i will be i voting. but i think the difficulty here _ voting. but i think the difficulty here is— voting. but i think the difficulty here is the _ voting. but i think the difficulty here is the damage _ voting. but i think the difficulty here is the damage that- voting. but i think the difficulty here is the damage that was i here is the damage that was inflicted _ here is the damage that was infiicted by— here is the damage that was inflicted by liz _ here is the damage that was inflicted by liz truss - here is the damage that was inflicted by liz truss is - here is the damage that was inflicted by liz truss is so i here is the damage that was - inflicted by liz truss is so massive that actually, _ inflicted by liz truss is so massive that actually, even _ inflicted by liz truss is so massive that actually, even being - inflicted by liz truss is so massive that actually, even being able - inflicted by liz truss is so massive that actually, even being able to l that actually, even being able to try to _ that actually, even being able to try to unwind _ that actually, even being able to try to unwind it, _ that actually, even being able to try to unwind it, even— that actually, even being able to try to unwind it, even being - that actually, even being able toj try to unwind it, even being able that actually, even being able to i try to unwind it, even being able to talk about— try to unwind it, even being able to talk about inflation _ try to unwind it, even being able to talk about inflation coming - try to unwind it, even being able to talk about inflation coming down i try to unwind it, even being able toj talk about inflation coming down to where _ talk about inflation coming down to where it— talk about inflation coming down to where it was— talk about inflation coming down to where it was supposed _ talk about inflation coming down to where it was supposed to _ talk about inflation coming down to where it was supposed to be - talk about inflation coming down to where it was supposed to be at - talk about inflation coming down toj where it was supposed to be at 2%, it is not— where it was supposed to be at 2%, it is not cutting _ where it was supposed to be at 2%, it is not cutting through _ where it was supposed to be at 2%, it is not cutting through because . where it was supposed to be at 2%, it is not cutting through because of| it is not cutting through because of the sort _ it is not cutting through because of the sort of— it is not cutting through because of the sort of seismic— it is not cutting through because of the sort of seismic impact - it is not cutting through because of the sort of seismic impact that - it is not cutting through because of the sort of seismic impact that lizl the sort of seismic impact that liz truss— the sort of seismic impact that liz truss had~ — the sort of seismic impact that liz truss had~ so _ the sort of seismic impact that liz truss had~ so i _ the sort of seismic impact that liz truss had. so i absolutely- the sort of seismic impact that liz i truss had. so i absolutely recognise that _ truss had. so i absolutely recognise that~ a— truss had. so i absolutely recognise that. a reputation— truss had. so i absolutely recognise that. a reputation for— truss had. so i absolutely recognise that. a reputation for fiscal- that. a reputation for fiscal prudence _ that. a reputation for fiscal prudence and _ that. a reputation for fiscal prudence and for— that. a reputation for fiscal prudence and for good - that. a reputation for fiscal- prudence and for good economic management. _ prudence and for good economic management. it— prudence and for good economic management, it has _ prudence and for good economic management, it has always - prudence and for good economicl management, it has always been really— management, it has always been really at — management, it has always been really at the _ management, it has always been really at the core. _ management, it has always been really at the core. but _ management, it has always been really at the core. but here's - management, it has always been really at the core. but here's the | really at the core. but here's the thing _ really at the core. but here's the thing - _ really at the core. but here's the thing - we — really at the core. but here's the thing - we are _ really at the core. but here's the thing — we are all— really at the core. but here's the thing — we are all shifting - really at the core. but here's the thing — we are all shifting all- really at the core. but here's the i thing — we are all shifting all over the place — thing — we are all shifting all over the place at — thing — we are all shifting all over the place at the _ thing — we are all shifting all over the place at the moment, - thing — we are all shifting all over the place at the moment, the - the place at the moment, the conservatives— the place at the moment, the conservatives have _ the place at the moment, the i conservatives have increasingly moved — conservatives have increasingly moved towards _ conservatives have increasingly moved towards the _ conservatives have increasingly moved towards the centre - conservatives have increasingly. moved towards the centre ground conservatives have increasingly- moved towards the centre ground and to left, _ moved towards the centre ground and to left, and _ moved towards the centre ground and to left, and now— moved towards the centre ground and to left, and now we _ moved towards the centre ground and to left, and now we are _ moved towards the centre ground and to left, and now we are seeing - to left, and now we are seeing labour— to left, and now we are seeing labour move _ to left, and now we are seeing labour move increasingly- to left, and now we are seeing

labour move increasingly into| to left, and now we are seeing - labour move increasingly into that centre _ labour move increasingly into that centre and — labour move increasingly into that centre and right, _ labour move increasingly into that centre and right, especially- labour move increasingly into that centre and right, especially on - centre and right, especially on issues — centre and right, especially on issues of— centre and right, especially on issues of patriotism, - centre and right, especially on issues of patriotism, defence, | issues of patriotism, defence, things— issues of patriotism, defence, things like _ issues of patriotism, defence, things like that. _ issues of patriotism, defence, things like that. so— issues of patriotism, defence, things like that. so there - issues of patriotism, defence, things like that. so there hasl issues of patriotism, defence, - things like that. so there has been a huge _ things like that. so there has been a huge swapping _ things like that. so there has been a huge swapping of— things like that. so there has been a huge swapping of political- things like that. so there has beenl a huge swapping of political clothes throughout— a huge swapping of political clothes throughout the _ a huge swapping of political clothes throughout the last _ a huge swapping of political clothes throughout the last five _ a huge swapping of political clothes throughout the last five years. - a huge swapping of political clothes throughout the last five years. 0k,| throughout the last five years. ok, we are and — throughout the last five years. ok, we are and have _ throughout the last five years. we are and have a quick look back throughout the last five years.“ we are and have a quick look back at this election campaign through the prism of newsnight. massive rumours within the conservative party that the stars are aligning for rishi sunak and big speculation that among conservative mps, the prime minister will announce the date of the election. we will have a general election on the 4th— we will have a general election on the 4th of— we will have a general election on the 4th ofjuly. we will have a general election on the ltth ofjuly-_ we will have a general election on the 4th ofjuly. 2017, theresa may reiterated to _ the 4th ofjuly. 2017, theresa may reiterated to be _ the 4th ofjuly. 2017, theresa may reiterated to be tens _ the 4th ofjuly. 2017, theresa may reiterated to be tens of _ the 4th ofjuly. 2017, theresa may reiterated to be tens of thousands j reiterated to be tens of thousands pledge. did that happen? ido. reiterated to be tens of thousands pledge. did that happen? no. you can no throu~h pledge. did that happen? no. you can go through all— pledge. did that happen? no. you can go through all of— pledge. did that happen? no. you can go through all of these, _ pledge. did that happen? no. you can go through all of these, and _ pledge. did that happen? no. you can go through all of these, and it - pledge. did that happen? no. you can go through all of these, and it is - go through all of these, and it is quite clear that we have not achieved... quite clear that we have not achieved. . ._ achieved... but it is very important. _ achieved... but it is very important, because - achieved... but it is very important, because you | achieved... but it is very _ important, because you have made this promise in every single election, and in fact, you have delivered the complete opposite. this morning, we revealed that the investigation into diane abbot�*s comments on racism finished five

months ago. 12 hours after our story dropped, the labour leadership have lifted our suspension —— her suspension. i lifted our suspension -- her suspension.— lifted our suspension -- her susension. ., ., ., suspension. i do feel that there are some people _ suspension. i do feel that there are some people around _ suspension. i do feel that there are some people around keir, - suspension. i do feel that there are some people around keir, not - suspension. i do feel that there are some people around keir, notjustl some people around keir, notjust starmer— some people around keir, notjust starmer don't match himself, but maybe _ starmer don't match himself, but maybe watched a bit too much scandal or the _ maybe watched a bit too much scandal or the west _ maybe watched a bit too much scandal or the west wing. that is not how politics _ or the west wing. that is not how politics is — or the west wing. that is not how politics is done, it is important that— politics is done, it is important that somebody like diane gets her dues~ _ that somebody like diane gets her dues. ., ., ., dues. you have extended to the student loan _ dues. you have extended to the student loan period _ dues. you have extended to the student loan period from - dues. you have extended to the student loan period from 30 - dues. you have extended to the student loan period from 30 to l dues. you have extended to the i student loan period from 30 to 40 years, meaning many graduates will be paying off the debt in the 60s. you invested only one third of what was recommended, venturers nearly 9% in the last year, and houses are at their most expensive since 1876. that is why i asked and houses are at their most expensive since 1876. that is why i asked them how the tories got a problem of young people? tories got a problem of young --eole? ., tories got a problem of young eo le? ., ., tories got a problem of young --eole? ., ., ., ., tories got a problem of young people?_ thank i tories got a problem of young - people?_ thank you people? no, not at all. thank you for talking — people? no, not at all. thank you for talking to _ people? no, not at all. thank you for talking to us. _ people? no, not at all. thank you for talking to us. are _ people? no, not at all. thank you for talking to us. are you - people? no, not at all. thank you for talking to us. are you the - for talking to us. are you the labour candidate for chingford and woodford green? i labour candidate for chingford and woodford green?— woodford green? i thought i was. then i literally _ woodford green? i thought i was. then i literally just _ woodford green? i thought i was. then i literallyjust got _

woodford green? i thought i was. then i literallyjust got an - woodford green? i thought i was. then i literallyjust got an e-maill then i literallyjust got an e—mail and i_ then i literallyjust got an e—mail and i am— then i literallyjust got an e—mail and i am in — then i literallyjust got an e—mail and i am in a bit ofa then i literallyjust got an e—mail and i am in a bit of a state of and i am in a bit ofa state of shock— and i am in a bit ofa state of shock to— and i am in a bit of a state of shock to be honest.- and i am in a bit of a state of shock to be honest. you got an e-mailtonight? _ shock to be honest. you got an e-mailtonight? when? - shock to be honest. you got an e-mailtonight? when? about| shock to be honest. you got an i e-mailtonight? when? about an shock to be honest. you got an - e-mailtonight? when? about an hour auo. i am e-mailtonight? when? about an hour ago- i am out — e-mailtonight? when? about an hour ago. i am out campaigning, _ e-mailtonight? when? about an hour ago. i am out campaigning, and - e-mailtonight? when? about an hour ago. i am out campaigning, and my. ago. lam out campaigning, and my phone _ ago. iam out campaigning, and my phone is— ago. lam out campaigning, and my phone is going up, they have briefed the press _ phone is going up, they have briefed the press before they even have the decency— the press before they even have the decency call me and talk to me. keir starmer would _ decency call me and talk to me. keir starmer would put all that progress at risk, _ starmer would put all that progress at risk, he — starmer would put all that progress at risk, he would _ starmer would put all that progress at risk, he would put _ starmer would put all that progress at risk, he would put up _ starmer would put all that progress at risk, he would put up everyone'sj at risk, he would put up everyone's taxes _ at risk, he would put up everyone's taxes by— at risk, he would put up everyone's taxes by 52000 _ at risk, he would put up everyone's taxes by £2000. he _ at risk, he would put up everyone's taxes by 9000-— taxes by £2000. he is the british exert on taxes by £2000. he is the british exoert on tax _ taxes by £2000. he is the british expert on tax raisers, _ taxes by £2000. he is the british expert on tax raisers, they - taxes by £2000. he is the british expert on tax raisers, they are i taxes by £2000. he is the british expert on tax raisers, they are at| expert on tax raisers, they are at the highest level for 70 years. what the highest level for 70 years. what he did, he did _ the highest level for 70 years. what he did, he did not _ the highest level for 70 years. what he did, he did not do _ the highest level for 70 years. what he did, he did not do a _ the highest level for 70 years. what he did, he did not do a knockout punch, _ he did, he did not do a knockout punch, he — he did, he did not do a knockout punch, he did a jab, he did, he did not do a knockout punch, he did ajab, and he jabbed repeatedly— punch, he did ajab, and he jabbed repeatedly with the same very effective message which was £2000. and inexplicably, keir starmer, should — and inexplicably, keir starmer, should have predicted this was common. _ should have predicted this was common, just did not answer the question — common, just did not answer the question. he common, 'ust did not answer the ruestion. . ., ., ., question. he could have dealt with that in the first _ question. he could have dealt with that in the first ten _ question. he could have dealt with that in the first ten seconds, he i that in the first ten seconds, he could havejust that in the first ten seconds, he could have just said the words, that is not true, i am not going to do it. , . , ., , it. independent civil servants within the — it. independent civil servants within the treasury... - it. independent civil servants within the treasury... i - it. independent civil servants within the treasury... i am i it. independent civil servants - within the treasury... i am going to ull ou

within the treasury... i am going to pull you op — within the treasury... i am going to pull you up on _ within the treasury... i am going to pull you up on that. _ within the treasury... i am going to pull you up on that. they _ within the treasury... i am going to pull you up on that. they are - within the treasury... i am going to pull you up on that. they are not i pull you up on that. they are not independent, they are not impartial. the assumptions on which the calculations are based have been made by tory special advisers, they are political appointees, and... made by tory special advisers, they are politicalappointees, and... no, hang on, and that is misleading to voters, and therefore very disrespectful. to the liberal democrats still wants to overturn brexit, yes or no?— democrats still wants to overturn brexit, yes or no? no, what we are talkin: brexit, yes or no? no, what we are talking about _ brexit, yes or no? no, what we are talking about is _ brexit, yes or no? no, what we are talking about is rebuilding - brexit, yes or no? no, what we are talking about is rebuilding the - talking about is rebuilding the relationship. we cannot go back to where we work.— where we work. wales voted for brexit, so _ where we work. wales voted for brexit, so an — where we work. wales voted for brexit, so an independent - where we work. wales voted for brexit, so an independent one i where we work. wales voted for - brexit, so an independent one would also have _ brexit, so an independent one would also have left the european union. in also have left the european union. in terms— also have left the european union. in terms of— also have left the european union. in terms of the opinion polls, success of opinion polls have shown that opinion has shifted, and brexit is doing untold harm to our communities. ., ., ., , ., communities. extraordinary that the prime minister _ communities. extraordinary that the prime minister of _ communities. extraordinary that the prime minister of the _ communities. extraordinary that the prime minister of the united - prime minister of the united kingdom, the king has advances medical— kingdom, the king has advances medical treatment so he was there, this will— medical treatment so he was there, this will be — medical treatment so he was there, this will be the last commemoration where _ this will be the last commemoration where survivors, big commemoration, where _ where survivors, big commemoration, where survivors, big commemoration, where survivors will be present, i think— where survivors will be present, i think it _ where survivors will be present, i think it is — where survivors will be present, i think it is political malpractice of the highest order if rishi sunak

absented himself for an election interview— absented himself for an election interview on itv.— absented himself for an election interview on itv. what happened around niger— interview on itv. what happened around niger was _ interview on itv. what happened around niger was not _ interview on itv. what happened around niger was not acceptable | interview on itv. what happened i around niger was not acceptable or intelligent form of protest. but i cannot pretend that he has not fed into a culture of anger and hatred and other ink that ended up manifesting hatred in this very kind of aggressive politics —— othering. i was attacked in sainsbury�*s. that i was attacked in sainsbury's. that is what _ i was attacked in sainsbury's. that is what really shocked me. i was thinking, — is what really shocked me. i was thinking, in— is what really shocked me. i was thinking, in sainsbury's? it wasn't even _ thinking, in sainsbury's? it wasn't even lidl~ — thinking, in sainsbury's? it wasn't even lidl. ., , ., even lidl. you will be borrowing double what _ even lidl. you will be borrowing double what liz _ even lidl. you will be borrowing double what liz truss _ even lidl. you will be borrowing double what liz truss wanted i even lidl. you will be borrowing double what liz truss wanted to borrow for tax cuts and her mini budget. you're going to crash the economy. liz budget. you're going to crash the econom . , , budget. you're going to crash the econom . ,, . .,, economy. liz truss crashed the economy. liz truss crashed the economy because _ economy. liz truss crashed the economy because that - economy. liz truss crashed the economy because that was - economy. liz truss crashed the - economy because that was unfunded. this is also unfunded borrowing. h0. this is also unfunded borrowing. no, because we — this is also unfunded borrowing. iifr, because we are bringing in other taxes... ., �* ., ., taxes... no, i'm going to pose you riaht taxes... no, i'm going to pose you right there, — taxes... no, i'm going to pose you right there, let's _ taxes... no, i'm going to pose you right there, let's be _ taxes... no, i'm going to pose you right there, let's be absolutely - right there, let's be absolutely clear with voters. you're making a

choice, you could fully fund and for the cost lived in the two child benefit cap and you're making the choice not to do that. that is right, isn't it? taste choice not to do that. that is right, isn't it?— choice not to do that. that is right, isn't it? choice not to do that. that is riaht, isn't it? ~ ., ., right, isn't it? we have made the commitment _ right, isn't it? we have made the commitment not _ right, isn't it? we have made the commitment not to _ right, isn't it? we have made the commitment not to increase - right, isn't it? we have made thel commitment not to increase taxes because _ commitment not to increase taxes because taxes are already too high as a consequence of the conservative in government. | as a consequence of the conservative in government-— in government. i will put this quote to ou, in government. i will put this quote to you. if i — in government. i will put this quote to you. if i may- — in government. i will put this quote to you. ifl may- i— in government. i will put this quote to you, ifl may. i asked _ to you, if i may. i asked british historian david 0lusoga about your manifesto. he said this is about fermenting divisions in order to win votes. ~ , ,., ., votes. absolute garbage. i will tell ou what votes. absolute garbage. i will tell you what ferments _ votes. absolute garbage. i will tell you what ferments divisions, - votes. absolute garbage. i will tell you what ferments divisions, it - votes. absolute garbage. i will tell you what ferments divisions, it is i you what ferments divisions, it is the concept of equality and inclusion.— the concept of equality and inclusion. ., ., ., , inclusion. reform would love this, wouldn't they? — inclusion. reform would love this, wouldn't they? of _ inclusion. reform would love this, wouldn't they? of course, - inclusion. reform would love this, wouldn't they? of course, i - inclusion. reform would love this, i wouldn't they? of course, i listened very carefully _ wouldn't they? of course, i listened very carefully to _ wouldn't they? of course, i listened very carefully to what _ wouldn't they? of course, i listened very carefully to what you _ wouldn't they? of course, i listened very carefully to what you said. - wouldn't they? of course, i listened very carefully to what you said. i - very carefully to what you said. i think— very carefully to what you said. i think it — very carefully to what you said. i think it is — very carefully to what you said. i think it is finer to change your mind — think it is finer to change your mind the _ think it is finer to change your mind. the facts change, personnel change _ mind. the facts change, personnel change at — mind. the facts change, personnel change at the top and so on, but i think— change at the top and so on, but i think it _ change at the top and so on, but i think it does — change at the top and so on, but i think it does strike me as if you are a _ think it does strike me as if you are a little _ think it does strike me as if you are a little bit all over the place

on who— are a little bit all over the place on who you supported. did i hear correctlym? _ on who you supported. did i hear correctly- - - ?_ on who you supported. did i hear correctly. . . ? there's nobody less all over the _ correctly. . . ? there's nobody less all over the place _ correctly. . . ? there's nobody less all over the place than _ correctly. . . ? there's nobody less all over the place than me. - correctly. . . ? there's nobody less all over the place than me. did i correctly. . . ? there's nobody less i all over the place than me. did you su ort all over the place than me. did you sopport liz — all over the place than me. did you support liz truss' _ all over the place than me. did you support liz truss' agenda? - all over the place than me. did you support liz truss' agenda? did - support liz truss' agenda? did you su ort support liz truss' agenda? did you sopport liz — support liz truss' agenda? did you support liz truss' _ support liz truss' agenda? did you support liz truss' agenda? - support liz truss' agenda? did you support liz truss' agenda? i - support liz truss' agenda? i did, and it was... support liz truss' agenda? i did, and it was---_ and it was... good evening, and welcome _ and it was... good evening, and welcome to _ and it was... good evening, and welcome to newsnight - and it was... good evening, and welcome to newsnight live - and it was... good evening, and welcome to newsnight live in i welcome to newsnight live in birmingham. welcome to newsnight live in ltirmingham-_ welcome to newsnight live in birminuham. , . ., ., , birmingham. sorry. we are really busy tonight- _ birmingham. sorry. we are really busy tonight. we _ birmingham. sorry. we are really busy tonight. we are _ birmingham. sorry. we are really busy tonight. we are going - birmingham. sorry. we are really busy tonight. we are going to - busy tonight. we are going to send an ambulance from stoke—on—trent, an hour away, _ an ambulance from stoke—on—trent, an hour away, to _ an ambulance from stoke—on—trent, an hour away, to get to my mother who has been _ hour away, to get to my mother who has been on — hour away, to get to my mother who has been on the floor for three hours — has been on the floor for three hours it— has been on the floor for three hours it is— has been on the floor for three hours. it is not on. it has been on the floor for three hours. it is not on.— hours. it is not on. it is a bit rich of victoria _ hours. it is not on. it is a bit rich of victoria to _ hours. it is not on. it is a bit rich of victoria to talk - hours. it is not on. it is a bit rich of victoria to talk about | hours. it is not on. it is a bit. rich of victoria to talk about the importance of debate in an election. at least she has shown up the ceiling. i was to take a missing persons ad out on her in the selection because the conservatives do not have a leg to stand on on the nhs. you have ducked a newsnight debate we could have had on health... debate we could have had on health- - -_ debate we could have had on health... , ., i. , .,, health... sorry, not everyone is as much of a — health. .. sorry, not everyone is as much of a self— health... sorry, not everyone is as much of a self publicist _ health... sorry, not everyone is as much of a self publicist as - health... sorry, not everyone is as much of a self publicist as you - health... sorry, not everyone is as|

much of a self publicist as you are. lots _ much of a self publicist as you are. let's move — much of a self publicist as you are. let's move on... | much of a self publicist as you are. let's move on. . ._ much of a self publicist as you are. let's move on. . .— let's move on... i am not talking about myself. — let's move on... i am not talking about myself, i— let's move on... i am not talking about myself, i am _ let's move on... i am not talking about myself, i am talking - let's move on... i am not talking about myself, i am talking about| about myself, i am talking about your record. about myself, i am talking about your record-— about myself, i am talking about our record. �*, ., ., ., ., your record. let's move on from that scra -. your record. let's move on from that scrap- you — your record. let's move on from that scrap- you just _ your record. let's move on from that scrap. you just literally _ your record. let's move on from that scrap. you just literally ignored - scrap. you just literally ignored the two countries where most asylum seekers come from.— seekers come from. india, bangladesh. _ seekers come from. india, bangladesh, albania... i seekers come from. india, | bangladesh, albania... and seekers come from. india, - bangladesh, albania... and you're still ignoring _ bangladesh, albania... and you're still ignoring afghanistan - bangladesh, albania... and you're still ignoring afghanistan and - bangladesh, albania... and you're still ignoring afghanistan and iran. are you saying you're ready overturn agreements from those two countries? if you look at each one on their merits, obviously... the if you look at each one on their merits, obviously... the answer is no. the merits, obviously... the answer is no- the betting — merits, obviously. .. the answer is no. the betting scandal— merits, obviously... the answer is no. the betting scandal deepens. | no. the betting scandal deepens. newsnight has been told that up to 15 conservative candidates and officials are being scrutinised. good evening and welcome to newsnight live in glasgow. unashamedly pro—immigration, for moral reasons, ethical reasons, and for economic reasons. we are a small country of 5 million people. we want to be open, we want to be welcoming, and i am horrified at the way that both labour and the conservatives are doubling down on this anti—immigration rhetoric. the

anti-immigration rhetoric. the anti—immigration rhetoric. the shadow chancellor declines to rule it out. _ shadow chancellor declines to rule it out. it _ shadow chancellor declines to rule it out. it is — shadow chancellor declines to rule it out, it is pretty clear why. is it out, it is pretty clear why. is this it out, it is pretty clear why. this how it out, it is pretty clear why. is this how desperate you are now? you are literally making things up? that is absolute nonsense. james graham — playwright and screenwriter of dear england, sherwood, coalition, brexit: the uncivil war, salma shah, ex—conservative advisor, luke tryll from pollsters more in common, and labour peer ayesha hazarika — what has stood out for you, either positive or negative? rishi sunak announcing the election in the rain looks so long ago now. it is probably the return of nigel farage, both in terms of what that good to the tone of the conversation, i don't think it will impact to the next government is but i think it will impact what happens next certainly to the identity and direction of travel for the conservative party.- direction of travel for the conservative party. direction of travel for the conservative pa . ., ., conservative party. have reform uk eaked, conservative party. have reform uk peaked. luke? _ conservative party. have reform uk peaked. luke? l— conservative party. have reform uk peaked, luke? ithink— conservative party. have reform uk peaked, luke? i think so, _ conservative party. have reform uk peaked, luke? i think so, we - conservative party. have reform uk peaked, luke? i think so, we saw. peaked, luke? i think so, we saw them on a — peaked, luke? i think so, we saw them on a steady _ peaked, luke? i think so, we saw them on a steady clip _ peaked, luke? i think so, we saw them on a steady clip up, - peaked, luke? i think so, we saw them on a steady clip up, up, - peaked, luke? i think so, we saw them on a steady clip up, up, up| them on a steady clip up, up, up in them on a steady clip up, up, up in the polls. _ them on a steady clip up, up, up in the polls, but after nigel farage's comments about ukraine and after the racism _ comments about ukraine and after the racism scandal is we have seen, they do seem _ racism scandal is we have seen, they do seem to _ racism scandal is we have seen, they do seem to have a best plateau, and actually _ do seem to have a best plateau, and actually in _ do seem to have a best plateau, and actually in some polls started to tick down~ —

actually in some polls started to tick down. —— they seem to have at best— tick down. —— they seem to have at best plateaued. tick down. -- they seem to have at best plateaued.— best plateaued. moment of the campaign. _ best plateaued. moment of the campaign, ayesha? _ best plateaued. moment of the campaign, ayesha? the - best plateaued. moment of the campaign, ayesha? the didier| best plateaued. moment of the - campaign, ayesha? the didier agathe, without question _ campaign, ayesha? the didier agathe, without question -- _ campaign, ayesha? the didier agathe, without question -- the _ campaign, ayesha? the didier agathe, without question -- the d-day - campaign, ayesha? the didier agathe, without question -- the d-day gaffe. i without question —— the d—day gaffe. this country is aching for change. i this country is aching for change. i have to agree with james, because actually nigel farage's return and what that means for the conservative party, what that means for a centre—right or a right force in this country has completely changed, and i this country has completely changed, and ~' ., this country has completely changed, and ~ ., ., , ., , ., and i think of the conservatives on certain polls _ and i think of the conservatives on certain polls are _ and i think of the conservatives on certain polls are predicted - and i think of the conservatives on certain polls are predicted to - and i think of the conservatives on certain polls are predicted to be i certain polls are predicted to be the third — certain polls are predicted to be the third party, i think that will be released seismically different for the _ be released seismically different for the way our politics will work for the way our politics will work for a _ for the way our politics will work for a long — for the way our politics will work for a long time.— for a long time. there is one poll out tonight. _ for a long time. there is one poll out tonight. a — for a long time. there is one poll out tonight, a big _ for a long time. there is one poll out tonight, a big mrp _ for a long time. there is one poll out tonight, a big mrp poll, - for a long time. there is one poll out tonight, a big mrp poll, the | out tonight, a big mrp poll, the last poll of the campaign, and it is a labour at 99% certain to win more seats than in 1997. what to do when in 1997? the majority it was 179,

tony blair's majority, they won 418. —— what did they win in 1997? this has them on course to win 484 seats. just on that point really quickly, in history there have only been six labour prime ministers, so although we still have to wait for the polls and we don't know what is going to happen, if this happens, this is a big moment in history. i happen, if this happens, this is a big moment in history.— happen, if this happens, this is a big moment in history. i want to ask ou, big moment in history. i want to ask you. james. — big moment in history. i want to ask you. james. your — big moment in history. i want to ask you. james. your play _ big moment in history. i want to ask you, james, your play which - big moment in history. i want to ask you, james, your play which you - big moment in history. i want to ask you, james, your play which you are j you, james, your play which you are adapting for a bbc tv drama, dear england, is honestly about gareth southgate, it is about he transformed the england team, transformed the england team, transformed the england team, transformed the connection between the players and supporters, and make am very proud of their identity, one of the most diverse england teams we have ever seen as well. could politicians learn anything from successful leaders in other fields? yes, and certainly when it comes to gareth southgate. i have spent a lot of time in his head, but i think one

of time in his head, but i think one of the things he did that was really successful is,