there are a lot of undecided voters still, lots of constituencies - that'll come down to a few hundred votes that make the difference. - and it's the final day for election stunts like this. we'll reflect on the campaign across the uk. with me today, northern ireland secretary chris heaton—harris, shadow work and pensions secretary liz kendall, lbc presenter nick ferrari and guardian columnist gaby hinsliff. this is politics live election 202a. welcome to viewers on bbc two, bbc iplayer and bbc news. yes, the day before polls open bright and early tomorrow. let's

take a look at the front pages. on the mirror, is it coming home? 1a years of hurt never stopped us dreaming with sir keir starmer. a more prosaic front—page, prison crisis on day one with cells full and one in, one out plan. the times, looking at the former prime minister borisjohnson, big labourwin looking at the former prime minister borisjohnson, big labour win is pregnant with horrors, he said, and the daily telegraph looks at boris johnson also, it is not too late to stop labour. and the daily mail, finally, boris and rishi unite, they didn't quite but anyway, to stop starmer. let's turn to boris johnson, the former conservative prime minister. last night he made a surprise speech at a conservative rally in chelsea.

if you feel you've got - a few thousand to spare, then vote labour on thursday. if you want uncontrolled immigration and mandatory wokery and pointless| kowtowing to brussels again, then go right ahead, - make my day, vote for starmer. but if you want to protect our democracy and our economy, i and keep this country strong abroad | by spending 2.5% of gdp on defence, which labour still refuses to commit to, then you know what to do, - don't you, everybody? there's only one thing to do! vote conservative on thursday! chris, vintage boris johnson chris, vintage borisjohnson you might say but is it too little too late? it might say but is it too little too late? ., , , might say but is it too little too late? . , , , ., ., late? it has been helping throughout the campaign — late? it has been helping throughout the campaign even _ late? it has been helping throughout the campaign even though he - late? it has been helping throughout the campaign even though he has . late? it has been helping throughout i the campaign even though he has been away. he has been helping a lot of conservative candidates with letters, endorsements and it is a vintage borisjohnson. the thing i love about vintage borisjohnson is he is bang on the money, labour will cost you more in tax, rubbish at

controlling migration and the best thing about it is you can't stop talking about him and that helps get the message across. is talking about him and that helps get the message across.— the message across. is that true, liz? i think _ the message across. is that true, liz? | think it — the message across. is that true, liz? i think it will _ the message across. is that true, liz? i think it will remind - the message across. is that true, liz? i think it will remind people | liz? i think it will remind people while they _ liz? i think it will remind people while they were _ liz? i think it will remind people while they were in _ liz? i think it will remind people while they were in lockdown, . liz? i think it will remind people| while they were in lockdown, the tories _ while they were in lockdown, the tories were partying and it was one rule for— tories were partying and it was one rule for them and one for everybody else _ rule for them and one for everybody else it _ rule for them and one for everybody else it will— rule for them and one for everybody else. it will remind people, it was you who _ else. it will remind people, it was you who kept my city in lockdown for the longest _ you who kept my city in lockdown for the longest ever period and we are still suffering as a result. it will remind — still suffering as a result. it will remind people that have been five prime _ remind people that have been five prime ministers, all the chaos, what i prime ministers, all the chaos, what i divided _ prime ministers, all the chaos, what i divided the — prime ministers, all the chaos, what i divided the conservatives are and i divided the conservatives are and ithink_ i divided the conservatives are and i think what chris and boris johnson have just _ i think what chris and boris johnson have just said it shows how out of touch _ have just said it shows how out of touch people are. they know they are paying _ touch people are. they know they are paying more — touch people are. they know they are paying more in taxes and getting less in_ paying more in taxes and getting less in their public services. they know_ less in their public services. they know under— less in their public services. they know under the conservatives immigration has soared and small hoais— immigration has soared and small boats are — immigration has soared and small boats are still arriving and they will know — boats are still arriving and they will know that unless they vote labour — will know that unless they vote labour for change tomorrow, they

will get _ labour for change tomorrow, they will get five more years of what they have — will get five more years of what they have had over the past 14 years and it _ they have had over the past 14 years and it is_ they have had over the past 14 years and it is time for change. help they have had over the past 14 years and it is time for change.— and it is time for change. help or hindrance the _ and it is time for change. help or hindrance the appearance - and it is time for change. help or hindrance the appearance of- and it is time for change. help or| hindrance the appearance of boris johnson? he hindrance the appearance of boris johnson? . ,., , johnson? he in'ected some energy. he talked about johnson? he injected some energy. he talked about how _ johnson? he injected some energy. he talked about how the _ johnson? he injected some energy. he talked about how the labour _ talked about how the labour administration _ talked about how the labour administration is _ talked about how the labour administration is pregnant. talked about how the labour. administration is pregnant with horrors — administration is pregnant with horrors but _ administration is pregnant with horrors but it— administration is pregnant with horrors but it was _ administration is pregnant with horrors but it was interesting . administration is pregnant with . horrors but it was interesting how listeners — horrors but it was interesting how listeners took _ horrors but it was interesting how listeners took to _ horrors but it was interesting how listeners took to it _ horrors but it was interesting how listeners took to it because - horrors but it was interesting how listeners took to it because for. listeners took to it because for those — listeners took to it because for those who _ listeners took to it because for those who don't _ listeners took to it because for those who don't know, - listeners took to it because for those who don't know, lbc - those who don't know, lbc is a phone in show and a lot— those who don't know, lbc is a phone in show and a lot of— those who don't know, lbc is a phone in show and a lot of people _ those who don't know, lbc is a phone in show and a lot of people were - in show and a lot of people were saying. — in show and a lot of people were saying. why— in show and a lot of people were saying. why are _ in show and a lot of people were saying, why are they _ in show and a lot of people were saying, why are they putting - in show and a lot of people were| saying, why are they putting him in show and a lot of people were - saying, why are they putting him up? that is— saying, why are they putting him up? that is partygate. _ saying, why are they putting him up? that is partygate, ppe _ saying, why are they putting him up? that is partygate, ppe scandal. - saying, why are they putting him up? that is partygate, ppe scandal. i- that is partygate, ppe scandal. i can see — that is partygate, ppe scandal. i can see why— that is partygate, ppe scandal. i can see why they _ that is partygate, ppe scandal. i can see why they did _ that is partygate, ppe scandal. i can see why they did it. - that is partygate, ppe scandal. i can see why they did it. it - that is partygate, ppe scandal. i can see why they did it. it is- that is partygate, ppe scandal. i can see why they did it. it is like| can see why they did it. it is like if you _ can see why they did it. it is like if you are — can see why they did it. it is like if you are running _ can see why they did it. it is like if you are running a _ can see why they did it. it is like if you are running a football - can see why they did it. it is like . if you are running a football team, you have _ if you are running a football team, you have a — if you are running a football team, you have a great _ if you are running a football team, you have a great player, _ if you are running a football team, you have a great player, we - if you are running a football team, you have a great player, we are i if you are running a football team, i you have a great player, we are not doing _ you have a great player, we are not doing well, — you have a great player, we are not doing well, let's _ you have a great player, we are not doing well, let's hurl— you have a great player, we are not doing well, let's hurl him _ you have a great player, we are not doing well, let's hurl him out - you have a great player, we are not doing well, let's hurl him out there| doing well, let's hurl him out there and see _ doing well, let's hurl him out there and see what— doing well, let's hurl him out there and see what he _ doing well, let's hurl him out there and see what he can _ doing well, let's hurl him out there and see what he can do. _ doing well, let's hurl him out there and see what he can do. i- doing well, let's hurl him out there and see what he can do. i quickly. and see what he can do. i quickly did a _ and see what he can do. i quickly did a tally, — and see what he can do. i quickly did a tally, i— and see what he can do. i quickly did a tally, i would _ and see what he can do. i quickly did a tally, i would say— and see what he can do. i quickly did a tally, i would say for- and see what he can do. i quickly did a tally, i would say for the i did a tally, i would say for the callers — did a tally, i would say for the callers from _ did a tally, i would say for the callers from my— did a tally, i would say for the callers from my show, - did a tally, i would say for the callers from my show, 65% i did a tally, i would say for the i callers from my show, 65% did did a tally, i would say for the - callers from my show, 65% did not like it _ callers from my show, 6596 did not like it. , . , callers from my show, 6596 did not like it. , . like it. interesting. it was always auoin to like it. interesting. it was always going to be _

like it. interesting. it was always going to be a _ like it. interesting. it was always going to be a gamble. _ like it. interesting. it was always going to be a gamble. it got - going to be a gamble. it got attention — going to be a gamble. it got attention but _ going to be a gamble. it got attention but a _ going to be a gamble. it got attention but a lot _ going to be a gamble. it got attention but a lot of - going to be a gamble. it got attention but a lot of people thought. _ attention but a lot of people thought, that _ attention but a lot of people thought, that is _ attention but a lot of people thought, that is exactly- attention but a lot of people| thought, that is exactly what attention but a lot of people l thought, that is exactly what i don't — thought, that is exactly what i don't want _ thought, that is exactly what i don't want to _ thought, that is exactly what i don't want to see _ thought, that is exactly what i don't want to see from - thought, that is exactly what i don't want to see from the - thought, that is exactly what i - don't want to see from the tories. it don't want to see from the tories. it was _ don't want to see from the tories. it was this— don't want to see from the tories. it was this awkward _ don't want to see from the tories. it was this awkward juxtaposition. don't want to see from the tories. i it was this awkward juxtaposition of borisjohnson, previous prime boris johnson, previous prime minister, borisjohnson, previous prime minister, and rishi sunak, the current prime minister. it was like an awfulfamily reunion current prime minister. it was like an awful family reunion because they didn't appear together. it felt humiliating — didn't appear together. it felt humiliating to _ didn't appear together. it felt humiliating to be _ didn't appear together. it felt humiliating to be honest - didn't appear together. it felt humiliating to be honest because there _ humiliating to be honest because there was— humiliating to be honest because there was this feeling of having kept _ there was this feeling of having kept him — there was this feeling of having kept him at arm's length, for a lot of reasons— kept him at arm's length, for a lot of reasons we just discussed, to then— of reasons we just discussed, to then had — of reasons we just discussed, to then had to bring him in at the last minute _ then had to bring him in at the last minute and — then had to bring him in at the last minute and they said at the beginning, i was glad when he called me for— beginning, i was glad when he called me for help. as he was dry i thought i me for help. as he was dry i thought i would _ me for help. as he was dry i thought i would gracefully throw him a life belt _ i would gracefully throw him a life belt you — i would gracefully throw him a life belt. you just think, two tory leaders — belt. you just think, two tory leaders who have won elections and won who _ leaders who have won elections and won who is — leaders who have won elections and won who is not going to, it was a sign _ won who is not going to, it was a sign of— won who is not going to, it was a sign of desperation. there are still people _ sign of desperation. there are still people out— sign of desperation. there are still people out there who love boris but a lot of—

people out there who love boris but a lot of them are thinking, oh, god, ifwe— a lot of them are thinking, oh, god, it we had _ a lot of them are thinking, oh, god, if we had him, we would have won this tinre — if we had him, we would have won this tinre it— if we had him, we would have won this time. it isjust reminding them of why— this time. it isjust reminding them of why they— this time. it isjust reminding them of why they don't like rishi sunak. apart _ of why they don't like rishi sunak. apart from — of why they don't like rishi sunak. apart from the fact i think they are all rubbish, i understand what nick is saying because boris is marmite. but if you look at the group of people who lent their votes to the conservatives last time, it was a loan of a vote and people we do need to vote tomorrow to stop a labour majority and who are either likely not to vote or likely to vote for reform and likely get a labour majority, boris is the right person to articulate that message. it started earlier this morning because the work and pensions secretary mel stride who has been in the studio a number of times, he all but conceded the election. let's take a listen. i totally accept that where the polls are at the moment, means that tomorrow is likely to see

the largest labour landslide majority, the largest majority that this country has ever seen, much bigger than 1997, bigger even than the national government in 1931. what therefore matters now is what kind of opposition do we have, what kind of ability to scrutinise government is there within parliament. what mel said is if the polls are right, _ what mel said is if the polls are right, then it will be a labour supermajority and we are making sure the polls— supermajority and we are making sure the polls are wrong. i have made sure _ the polls are wrong. i have made sure all— the polls are wrong. i have made sure all nry— the polls are wrong. i have made sure all my career i don't think we should _ sure all my career i don't think we should have — sure all my career i don't think we should have polls for the last two weeks _ should have polls for the last two weeks of — should have polls for the last two weeks of an election because that is what has _ weeks of an election because that is what has been setting a narrative rather _ what has been setting a narrative rather than many of the issues on the doorstep. rather than many of the issues on the doorstep-— rather than many of the issues on the doorstep. you think you can win the doorstep. you think you can win the election? _ the doorstep. you think you can win the election? i— the doorstep. you think you can win the election? i think _ the doorstep. you think you can win the election? i think there - the doorstep. you think you can win the election? i think there are - the doorstep. you think you can win the election? i think there are lots. the election? i think there are lots of votes at — the election? i think there are lots of votes at play- — the election? i think there are lots of votes at play. one _ the election? i think there are lots of votes at play. one thing - the election? i think there are lots of votes at play. one thing the - of votes at play. one thing the candidates are sure about is there a huge _ candidates are sure about is there a huge number of undecided voters.

where _ huge number of undecided voters. where they vote will determine the size of— where they vote will determine the size of any— where they vote will determine the size of any labour majority. the where they vote will determine the size of any labour majority. size of any labour ma'ority. the way i size of any labour ma'ority. the way i interpreted _ size of any labour ma'ority. the way i interpreted is h size of any labour ma'ority. the way i interpreted is is — size of any labour majority. the way i interpreted is is now _ size of any labour majority. the way i interpreted is is now he _ size of any labour majority. the way i interpreted is is now he is - size of any labour majority. the way i interpreted is is now he is now- i interpreted is is now he is now doing _ i interpreted is is now he is now doing damage _ i interpreted is is now he is now doing damage limitation. - i interpreted is is now he is nowj doing damage limitation. suella braverman _ doing damage limitation. suella braverman has _ doing damage limitation. suella braverman has written - doing damage limitation. suella braverman has written it - doing damage limitation. suella braverman has written it is- doing damage limitation. suella braverman has written it is now| doing damage limitation. suella - braverman has written it is now over and we _ braverman has written it is now over and we need — braverman has written it is now over and we need to— braverman has written it is now over and we need to prepare _ braverman has written it is now over and we need to prepare for- and we need to prepare for opposition _ and we need to prepare for opposition-— and we need to prepare for opposition. and we need to prepare for o- osition. ., ., , opposition. you fight to the bitter end no matter — opposition. you fight to the bitter end no matter what _ opposition. you fight to the bitter end no matter what is _ opposition. you fight to the bitter end no matter what is happening | opposition. you fight to the bitter . end no matter what is happening and the more _ end no matter what is happening and the more those undecided votes... it the more those undecided votes... [it is the more those undecided votes... is here, it is the more those undecided votes... if is here, it is over, we have failed. the former home secretary says the party needs to rediscover its soul. do you agree?— party needs to rediscover its soul. do you agree? probably not because we are a party _ do you agree? probably not because we are a party that _ do you agree? probably not because we are a party that the _ do you agree? probably not because we are a party that the whole, - do you agree? probably not because we are a party that the whole, we i we are a party that the whole, we encompass — we are a party that the whole, we encompass the whole of the right. but we _ encompass the whole of the right. but we do — encompass the whole of the right. but we do need to, going back to the point of— but we do need to, going back to the point of is _ but we do need to, going back to the point of is she right? have we lost the polls? — point of is she right? have we lost the polls? we need to win every vote to make _ the polls? we need to win every vote to make sure we are an effective opposition — to make sure we are an effective opposition-— to make sure we are an effective opposition. the one thing today i will a . ree opposition. the one thing today i will agree with _

opposition. the one thing today i will agree with chris _ opposition. the one thing today i will agree with chris on _ opposition. the one thing today i will agree with chris on is - opposition. the one thing today i will agree with chris on is that i will agree with chris on is that there are so many undecided people. the benefit of going out and knocking on doors, and looking at the data is i know how many people have still not made up their minds. it is not over until the ballot closes at ten o'clock at night. that is why after the show, i will be getting on a train, i won't mention the constituency but right until the very end and tomorrow as well, being in marginal seats as well as my own because so many people are still undecided and i am a child of my political upbringing. i remember the 92 election in the morning after how i felt and woke up and got that shock. i can't help but be shaped by that as are many in this campaign. nobody has voted yet and we have to get over the line, so that is the one thing that is missing but because we knock on doors, we know

how many people particularly in those marginal seats. taste how many people particularly in those marginal seats.— those marginal seats. we will discuss that _ those marginal seats. we will discuss that with _ those marginal seats. we will discuss that with kelly - those marginal seats. we willj discuss that with kelly beaver those marginal seats. we will- discuss that with kelly beaver from ipsos—mori but this idea that keir starmer has posited a voter suppression, that is what conservatives are doing. mel stride and others trying to say, you don't have to bother and go out and vote. it's not working very well but i do think— it's not working very well but i do think there — it's not working very well but i do think there is a fear that you had to keep — think there is a fear that you had to keep fighting till the very end because — to keep fighting till the very end because don't let people take it for granted _ because don't let people take it for granted and don't let people think, well, _ granted and don't let people think, well, if— granted and don't let people think, well, if labour is getting a majority, i can safely vote something else. they do fear this narrative — something else. they do fear this narrative that it is all over, labour— narrative that it is all over, labour has it in the bag but i don't think _ labour has it in the bag but i don't think i— labour has it in the bag but i don't think... i don't think it is driving people — think... i don't think it is driving people. the _ think... i don't think it is driving people. the fear the tories have is what _ people. the fear the tories have is what is _ people. the fear the tories have is what is left — people. the fear the tories have is what is left of their vote sitting at home, —

what is left of their vote sitting at home, notjust being undecided but even _ at home, notjust being undecided but even when they think they are voting _ but even when they think they are voting tory, they cannot bring themselves to the polling station and do _ themselves to the polling station and do it. — themselves to the polling station and do it, i can see that fear. i am informed by _ and do it, i can see that fear. i am informed by these _ and do it, i can see that fear. i am informed by these folk. _ and do it, i can see that fear. i am informed by these folk. they are out there _ informed by these folk. they are out there knocking — informed by these folk. they are out there knocking on _ informed by these folk. they are out there knocking on the _ informed by these folk. they are out there knocking on the doors - informed by these folk. they are out there knocking on the doors and - informed by these folk. they are outi there knocking on the doors and both of themm _ there knocking on the doors and both ofthemm there _ there knocking on the doors and both of them... there are _ there knocking on the doors and both of them... there are boats _ there knocking on the doors and both of them... there are boats out - there knocking on the doors and both of them... there are boats out there| of them... there are boats out there to play— of them... there are boats out there to play for— of them... there are boats out there to play for so— of them... there are boats out there to play for so i— of them... there are boats out there to play for so i can _ of them... there are boats out there to play for so i can see _ of them... there are boats out there to play for so i can see why- of them... there are boats out there to play for so i can see why they- to play for so i can see why they are working _ to play for so i can see why they are working so _ to play for so i can see why they are working so hard. _ to play for so i can see why they are working so hard. there - to play for so i can see why they are working so hard. there is i to play for so i can see why they. are working so hard. there is still are working so hard. there is still a fight _ are working so hard. there is still a fight out — are working so hard. there is still a fight out there _ are working so hard. there is still a fight out there which _ are working so hard. there is still a fight out there which puzzles i are working so hard. there is stilli a fight out there which puzzles me what suella — a fight out there which puzzles me what suella braverman _ a fight out there which puzzles me what suella braverman said. i a fight out there which puzzles me what suella braverman said. thisl a fight out there which puzzles me what suella braverman said. this is all about the _ what suella braverman said. this is all about the never _ what suella braverman said. this is all about the never ending - all about the never ending psychodrama within the tory party and she is sleeping out first, but thatjust reminds people of a party thatjust reminds people of a party thatis thatjust reminds people of a party that is all about these internal battles, not about their battles with paying their bills and trying to get to see the gp and that is the real issue here, about people saying, we won a government that is focused on us and our needs and concerns and seeing borisjohnson

and seeing suella braverman isjust reminding them of that. you should be focused on us not yourself. you need a government with a plan and you have _ need a government with a plan and you have yet to articulate yours. we have a you have yet to articulate yours. have a plan. you have yet to articulate yours. - have a plan. you might not like it, that's fair enough but don't say we don't have one because we do. let’s don't have one because we do. let's check in with — don't have one because we do. let's check in with the _ don't have one because we do. let's check in with the conservative campaign bus because nick eardley is travelling with the prime minister rishi sunak. the story today is very much that sort of concession of defeat if you like, damage limitation, whatever you want to call it by mel stride. it’s limitation, whatever you want to call it by mel stride.— call it by mel stride. it's pretty extraordinary, _ call it by mel stride. it's pretty extraordinary, isn't _ call it by mel stride. it's pretty extraordinary, isn't it? - call it by mel stride. it's pretty extraordinary, isn't it? the i call it by mel stride. it's pretty| extraordinary, isn't it? the day before polling for a senior cabinet minister, remember mel stride is close to rishi sunak, he is a key ally, for him to be staying you will probably not get in but a

significant labour majority but what matters now is the type of opposition we have. there are two reasons. one is to try and target those wavering former tory voters who may be are tempted to not vote or to back reform. it is to say to them, be careful what you wish for, if you don't back us you could end “p if you don't back us you could end up with a labour majority. the second is to inject a bit of complacency into the labour vote although when we chat to people in the labour party, they are adamant that will not happen. rishi sunak hasn't gone as far. we asked them yesterday, he was adamant he would fight until the last minute. he told me he wouldn't be doing this if he didn't think he could still win but whatever chris says, privately a lot of conservatives have been saying this for some time that they will not win tomorrow, that they fear a pretty historic drubbing and today,

for rishi sunak, it is all about the core vote which is one of the reasons why we are on our way to hampshire and not travelling to parts of the country with sound seats. . ~ parts of the country with sound seats. ., ~' , ., parts of the country with sound seats. . ,, , ., a parts of the country with sound seats. . ,, . , seats. thank you nick eardley. tomorrow. _ seats. thank you nick eardley. tomorrow, jeremy _ seats. thank you nick eardley. tomorrow, jeremy vine, i seats. thank you nick eardley. l tomorrow, jeremy vine, another seats. thank you nick eardley. i tomorrow, jeremy vine, another of seats. thank you nick eardley. - tomorrow, jeremy vine, another of my colleagues will continue a long—standing election night tradition, operating the swingometer from cardiff. let's take a preview. so, here we are in bbc cardiff, just constructing our path to the door of our own 10 downing street here. and let's just remember what labour need to do to win this election, if they can win it. is that they need to gain 125—odd seats just to get a majority of one, just to get keir starmer through that door. may not sound very difficult, but it sure is, because they will need a swing of 12.7%, that's more than even tony blair got in 1997 with his landslide. so it's no pushover for labour, this. we are going to find out what happens on election night with our programme on bbc one

which starts at 9:55pm with myself, laura kuenssberg and clive myrie, and others, and i hope to see you then. that was jeremy vine setting out the massive task ahead for labour in terms of swing a number of seats they would need to win to form the next government. in a moment we will show you the poll tracker, the bbc poll tracker, but let me introduce the chief executive of ipsos uk, the polls have consistently shown a 20 point lead for labour ahead of the conservatives and it is still 19 points, still the case as you can see there if you look at the lines, both labour and the conservatives have dropped a little bit. despite the massive swing needed by labour as set out byjeremy vine, is mel stride the cabinet minister right that the party is heading for a massive majority and a massive victory? it massive ma'ority and a massive victo ? ., , .,

massive ma'ority and a massive victo ? ., , . victory? it does look to be that wa . we victory? it does look to be that way- we have _ victory? it does look to be that way. we have got _ victory? it does look to be that way. we have got the - victory? it does look to be that way. we have got the labour l victory? it does look to be that i way. we have got the labour lead sitting at a similar sort of level to that, we expect them to take around 453 seats which is a 256 seat majority. so quite a sizeable lead. i think one of the questions i often get asked is about whether or not we will see much of a shift in voting intentions over the last few days of a campaign. when you look back across all of the electoral events at that scale since 1979 which is as far back as we have data, you can see that on average, things might move, the gap between conservative and labour, about three points. it is the exception rather than the rule that it moves more than that, and on two occasions we have seen it move to the extent of five points. and that was in 97 and 2001, both of which were labour having a strong lead and it slipped back a little bit. it is worth noting that today we still have a higher proportion

comparatively to previous elections who are undecided. it's still 36% of voters undecided today, at the same point in 2019 it was mid 20s. it is interesting. _ point in 2019 it was mid 20s. it is interesting, that _ point in 2019 it was mid 20s. it is interesting, that has been some of the discussion here. is it anecdotal, it has certainly been reported, this idea of undecided, unknowns. i have to say even in my own experience, more people have asked me this time, who should i vote for? as if i would know and give any indication! butjust as an interesting reflection of the campaign. now you have set out the figures, you don't think it is particularly, or it is particularly unique? particularly, or it is particularly uniaue? ., . . unique? not really, there are a coule unique? not really, there are a coople of _ unique? not really, there are a couple of things _ unique? not really, there are a couple of things that _ unique? not really, there are a couple of things that can i unique? not really, there are a couple of things that can also l unique? not really, there are a i couple of things that can also shape the last few days, notjust the don't knows. turn out, looking at the data we have, there are indicators that turn out is going to be specifically low during this election. if you look at 2019, at the same point, they were telling us

74% of people saying they were going to turn out, ends up being about 67%. at this point we have 65% of voters saying that they are going to voters saying that they are going to vote ten out of ten, and we know that they overestimate in these surveys when they tell us there so we would anticipate in the lower 605 or perhaps even lower than that again. turnout could have an impact on the ultimate votes that are cast and some marginal constituencies could be impacted. the and some marginal constituencies could be impacted.— and some marginal constituencies could be impacted. the number of seats where _ could be impacted. the number of seats where you _ could be impacted. the number of seats where you are _ could be impacted. the number of seats where you are looking i could be impacted. the number of seats where you are looking at i could be impacted. the number of| seats where you are looking at tens of thousands of votes, and people give a figure for the number of constituencies that we are talking about on both sides of the mainstream party spectrum, how important is that? could it really swing in terms of that number of seats, perhaps a dozen, 20, 30, on a very small number of votes? brute seats, perhaps a dozen, 20, 30, on a very small number of votes? we have 117 very small number of votes? we have "7 constituency _ very small number of votes? we have 117 constituency seats _ very small number of votes? we have 117 constituency seats where - very small number of votes? we have 117 constituency seats where we i 117 constituency seats where we believe it is a toss—up. so you can see things like the turnout numbers,

the reallocation of the don't knows and also tactical voting. one in five people are telling us they will vote tactically during this election. those three factors i would say can play into some variation on those marginal seats. and at this stage, those would be, that would be what i would be watching. abs. that would be what i would be watchinu. �* . that would be what i would be watchinu. . . ., , watching. a final thought, kelly, from what you — watching. a final thought, kelly, from what you have _ watching. a final thought, kelly, from what you have said. - watching. a final thought, kelly, from what you have said. if- watching. a final thought, kelly, | from what you have said. if there watching. a final thought, kelly, i from what you have said. if there is a lower turnout than perhaps we have been expecting, and yet we could be seeing a big political change, we could be seeing this big majority for labour, what does that say about enthusiasm for that big shift? 50. enthusiasm for that big shift? so, when ou enthusiasm for that big shift? so, when you look— enthusiasm for that big shift? 5r>, when you look across enthusiasm for that big shift? 5h, when you look across things like the turnout numbers, itjust shows you that political disengagement in the country today. we also know that trust in politics and politicians is at a record low from the british social attitudes data and our own voracity data. that is baked in. there is also a challenge around proving competency in government

again. when we ask people about their expectations of the labour government, i would say they are still quite muted in terms of the positivity on what they expect will be delivered. they also were concerned and think they will have tax rises, they think there will be more spending, they think there will be improvements in things like focus on public services etc, but one thing that comes across really clearly, people do want to change. we have seen a rise in that over the last six weeks, saying it is time for a change at this election, moving from 73 to 78%. sometimes you can get caught up in the noise and if you pick yourself out of that and look at the macro picture, the move of the nation is a desire for change. of the nation is a desire for chance. . ~ of the nation is a desire for chance. . ,, i. of the nation is a desire for chance. ., ~' ,, , change. thank you, kelly. reflections _ change. thank you, kelly. reflections on _ change. thank you, kelly. reflections on that? i change. thank you, kelly. | reflections on that? when change. thank you, kelly. i reflections on that? when chris said, i reflections on that? when chris said. i don't— reflections on that? when chris said, i don't think _ reflections on that? when chris said, i don't think you _ reflections on that? when chris said, i don't think you should i reflections on that? when chris i said, i don't think you should have pulled, _ said, i don't think you should have pulled, i_ said, i don't think you should have pulled, i thought he was bonkers but now i_ pulled, i thought he was bonkers but now i understand that because clearlym — now i understand that because clearly... 117 seats in play, i don't — clearly... 117 seats in play, i don't get _ clearly... 117 seats in play, i don't get out enough, these guys do is. don't get out enough, these guys do is because — don't get out enough, these guys do is. because it is not as we are

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gives the 172 course —— country. and the algorithm that gives the 172 course —— too - country. and the algorithm thati gives the 172 course —— too close country. and the algorithm that - gives the 172 course —— too close to call is _ gives the 172 course —— too close to call is an_ gives the 172 course —— too close to call is an algorithm, _ gives the 172 course —— too close to call is an algorithm, not _ gives the 172 course —— too close to call is an algorithm, not people. i gives the 172 course —— too close to| call is an algorithm, not people. we have been_ call is an algorithm, not people. we have been talking _ call is an algorithm, not people. we have been talking to _ call is an algorithm, not people. we have been talking to people - call is an algorithm, not people. we have been talking to people and - call is an algorithm, not people. we have been talking to people and we | have been talking to people and we know there — have been talking to people and we know there are _ have been talking to people and we know there are tonnes _ have been talking to people and we know there are tonnes of _ have been talking to people and we i know there are tonnes of undecided, we know_ know there are tonnes of undecided, we know turnout— know there are tonnes of undecided, we know turnout is _ know there are tonnes of undecided, we know turnout is going _ know there are tonnes of undecided, we know turnout is going to - know there are tonnes of undecided, we know turnout is going to be - we know turnout is going to be realty — we know turnout is going to be realty tow _ we know turnout is going to be really low. and _ we know turnout is going to be really low. and i— we know turnout is going to be really low. and i first - we know turnout is going to be really low. and i first got - we know turnout is going to be . really low. and i first got elected in 1999— really low. and i first got elected in 1999 in— really low. and i first got elected in 1999 in european— really low. and i first got elected in 1999 in european elections- really low. and i first got elected . in 1999 in european elections when tony in1999 in european elections when tony blair— in 1999 in european elections when tony blair was _ in 1999 in european elections when tony blair was at _ in 1999 in european elections when tony blair was at his _ in 1999 in european elections when tony blair was at his height, - tony blair was at his height, turnout _ tony blair was at his height, turnout was a _ tony blair was at his height, turnout was a disaster- tony blair was at his height, i turnout was a disaster across tony blair was at his height, - turnout was a disaster across the country _ turnout was a disaster across the country but — turnout was a disaster across the country but tory _ turnout was a disaster across the country but tory voters _ turnout was a disaster across the country but tory voters turned i turnout was a disaster across the i country but tory voters turned out in areas _ country but tory voters turned out in areas where _ country but tory voters turned out in areas where they— country but tory voters turned out in areas where they were - country but tory voters turned out in areas where they were not - in areas where they were not expected _ in areas where they were not exoected to _ in areas where they were not expected to and _ in areas where they were not expected to and i _ in areas where they were not expected to and i got - in areas where they were not expected to and i got in. - in areas where they were not expected to and i got in. there is a reason why. _ expected to and i got in. there is a reason why, what _ expected to and i got in. there is a reason why, what we _ expected to and i got in. there is a reason why, what we are _ expected to and i got in. there is a reason why, what we are saying . expected to and i got in. there is a reason why, what we are saying is, if you want change, you have to vote for it. it isn't a line, it's a fact. and when you have got over 100 and seats still within the margin of error, up to a third of voters undecided, when people, it is true

one of the biggest challenges people have had a hope kicked out of them for the last 1a years. to get out and convince them that politics matters and can make a difference, thatis matters and can make a difference, that is why we say we are fighting for every last vote. find that is why we say we are fighting for every last vote.— for every last vote. and they will have more _ for every last vote. and they will have more money _ for every last vote. and they will have more money kicked - for every last vote. and they will have more money kicked out - for every last vote. and they will have more money kicked out ofl for every last vote. and they will - have more money kicked out of them in the _ have more money kicked out of them in the next _ have more money kicked out of them in the next few years. is have more money kicked out of them in the next few years.— in the next few years. is there a sense that _ in the next few years. is there a sense that perhaps _ in the next few years. is there a sense that perhaps the - in the next few years. is there a sense that perhaps the lack- in the next few years. is there a sense that perhaps the lack of l sense that perhaps the lack of enthusiasm that has been talked about, apparent or real, is there an expectation that if labour wins, perhaps not enough will actually change? it will change as in there will be a new government and a new party, but their lives might not change very much. i party, but their lives might not change very much.— party, but their lives might not change very much. i think what i have been _ change very much. i think what i have been really _ change very much. i think what i have been really struck- change very much. i think what i have been really struck by - change very much. i think what i have been really struck by in - change very much. i think what i have been really struck by in the seats _ have been really struck by in the seats i_ have been really struck by in the seats i have been too is a sense of not just _ seats i have been too is a sense of notjust people seats i have been too is a sense of not just people thinking, seats i have been too is a sense of notjust people thinking, maybe the labour— notjust people thinking, maybe the labour government will not make a difference, — labour government will not make a difference, people thinking, no government makes a difference. losing _ government makes a difference. losing faith and having lost faith not just — losing faith and having lost faith not just having losing faith and having lost faith notjust having broken faith losing faith and having lost faith not just having broken faith with the tory— not just having broken faith with the tory government that has failed them _ the tory government that has failed them they— the tory government that has failed them they think, but politics itself is useful, — them they think, but politics itself is useful, cannot deliver for me. people — is useful, cannot deliver for me. people voted brexit because they wanted _ people voted brexit because they wanted a — people voted brexit because they wanted a change and they didn't get a change. _ wanted a change and they didn't get a change, they voted borisjohnson because _ a change, they voted borisjohnson because they thought that would be

the big _ because they thought that would be the big change and that wasn't it, now they— the big change and that wasn't it, now they are being asked to vote for another— now they are being asked to vote for another big — now they are being asked to vote for another big change and that isn't it, another big change and that isn't it. the _ another big change and that isn't it, the amount of times i have heard the enemy— it, the amount of times i have heard the enemy in — it, the amount of times i have heard the enemy in my seat is the sofa, not the _ the enemy in my seat is the sofa, not the other candidate, people thinking, — not the other candidate, people thinking, just stuff the lot of them — thinking, just stuff the lot of them. the interesting thing is the tactical— them. the interesting thing is the tactical voting. them. the interesting thing is the tacticalvoting. certainly them. the interesting thing is the tactical voting. certainly where i live in— tactical voting. certainly where i live in 0xfordshire,, they have already— live in 0xfordshire,, they have already always been safe tory seat, and people don't know what the tactical— and people don't know what the tactical vote is because they have not been — tactical vote is because they have not been in play before. you can see that across _ not been in play before. you can see that across the country, several seats _ that across the country, several seats where there is a will to unseat — seats where there is a will to unseat a _ seats where there is a will to unseat a tory candidate but people don't _ unseat a tory candidate but people don't know — unseat a tory candidate but people don't know the mechanism to do that, lib dems _ don't know the mechanism to do that, lib dems or— don't know the mechanism to do that, lib dems or labour, who is leading, they are _ lib dems or labour, who is leading, they are swamped with leaflets saying. — they are swamped with leaflets saying, winning here, with dubious bar charts~ — saying, winning here, with dubious bar charts. there could be seats that tories— bar charts. there could be seats that tories could survive because the anti—tory vote could not decide where _ the anti—tory vote could not decide where to— the anti—tory vote could not decide where to go. the anti-tory vote could not decide where to 90-— where to go. let's get the latest from the labour _ where to go. let's get the latest from the labour campaign - where to go. let's get the latest from the labour campaign bus. l so, we are following sir keir starmer today.

where he has already been in wales, we are heading to scotland and then later on we will be in england. so a real dash around the country. and he's continuing to visit seats that labour didn't win in the last general election. there is the sense of that growing confidence around the labour campaign, despite the very cautious public messaging. because of course it's the conservatives who are going around saying that they think the country could be heading for a labour, as they put it, supermajority. i asked sir keir starmer about mel stride, the work and pensions comments earlier on today, and sir keir said they amounted to voter suppression because of course what labour really don't want people to think is that this is a done deal and therefore they don't need to go out and bother voting for them. hence why we keep hearing sir keir starmer talking about, if you want change, you have got to go out and vote for it. now, as i say, they are pretty cautious in the public messaging, they don't want to look complacent or arrogant. but speaking to labour activists, and campaigners over the last couple of days, the mood is definitely one that is upbeat.

and when sir keir starmer came into the room in south—west wales earlier at a venue surrounded by labour supporters, there was a lot of applause, there was a real buzz in the room. i think within the labour party, a lot of them do think they could be on the cusp of being in power for the first time in 14 years. jess park are there on the labour bus. let me show you this headline. good to get your comment on this, chris, to respond. postal vote delays could bar kemi badenoch from tory leadership race. we have had various reports about postal votes being delayed in terms of being delivered to people, the head of the electoral commission think very few people have not received them but there is an issue in kemi badenoch's constituency and you can see all of the candidate on the bbc website. they say 2500 postal ballots were not sent out which could trigger a challenge, depending on the result, what you make of this?—

what you make of this? firstly, we are fighting _ what you make of this? firstly, we are fighting for _ what you make of this? firstly, we are fighting for every _ what you make of this? firstly, we are fighting for every vote - what you make of this? firstly, we are fighting for every vote and - are fighting for every vote and postal votes across the country have been out there, i made sure my parents did their postal vote last week, and they got their postal vote in plenty of time is very straightforward. there is no leadership election in the conservative party yet, we are trying to get rishi sunak re—elected as prime minister. i don't know much about what is going on in that particular part... about what is going on in that particular part. . ._ about what is going on in that particular part... they do all seem to be lining _ particular part... they do all seem to be lining op. — particular part... they do all seem to be lining up, don't _ particular part... they do all seem to be lining up, don't they, - particular part. .. they do all seem to be lining up, don't they, for- to be lining up, don't they, for life after. to be lining up, don't they, for life after-— to be lining up, don't they, for life after. �* , , ., , life after. i'm quite sure people alwa s life after. i'm quite sure people always fancy — life after. i'm quite sure people always fancy their _ life after. i'm quite sure people always fancy their tilt _ life after. i'm quite sure people always fancy their tilt at - life after. i'm quite sure people always fancy their tilt at the - life after. i'm quite sure people| always fancy their tilt at the top as they will be in the left wing of the labour party, rubbing their hands with glee that they will have a nice high tax government... shit a nice high tax government... all riaht, a nice high tax government... all right, chris, let's stick with the issue here!— right, chris, let's stick with the issue here! , ., . issue here! one benefit of what i do, i issue here! one benefit of what i do. i might _ issue here! one benefit of what i do. i might not— issue here! one benefit of what i do, i might not go _ issue here! one benefit of what i do, i might not go campaigning i issue here! one benefit of what i l do, i might not go campaigning as you do— do, i might not go campaigning as you do but— do, i might not go campaigning as you do but i— do, i might not go campaigning as you do but i get calls in from all over— you do but i get calls in from all over the — you do but i get calls in from all over the country to the show and there _ over the country to the show and there are — over the country to the show and there are problems with post, people are ringing _ there are problems with post, people are ringing in. it there are problems with post, people are ringing in-— are ringing in. it has been difficult to _ are ringing in. it has been difficult to get _ are ringing in. it has been difficult to get exactly - are ringing in. it has been| difficult to get exactly how difficult to get exactly how difficult it is.— difficult to get exactly how difficult it is. ~ . , difficult it is. with the greatest res - ect difficult it is. with the greatest resect to difficult it is. with the greatest respect to the _ difficult it is. with the greatest respect to the electoral - difficult it is. with the greatest - respect to the electoral commission saying _ respect to the electoral commission

saying it _ respect to the electoral commission saying it is — respect to the electoral commission saying it is fine, it's not, and i would — saying it is fine, it's not, and i would love _ saying it is fine, it's not, and i would love to give them the numbers of all of— would love to give them the numbers of all of these people. if you look geographically, people like scotland, it is their summer holiday season. _ scotland, it is their summer holiday season. it _ scotland, it is their summer holiday season. it is— scotland, it is their summer holiday season, it is no point saying, though— season, it is no point saying, though with your form you will be all right. — though with your form you will be all right, they can't because they could _ all right, they can't because they could be — all right, they can't because they could be in— all right, they can't because they could be in majorca. after the dust has settled, 10 million people vote by post _ has settled, 10 million people vote by post i— has settled, 10 million people vote by post. i understand sometimes it is because — by post. i understand sometimes it is because there are issues of mobility. _ is because there are issues of mobility, but it does seem a very hi-h mobility, but it does seem a very high numberto do. mobility, but it does seem a very high number to do. | mobility, but it does seem a very high number to do.— high number to do. i think there could be some _ high number to do. i think there could be some marginal- could be some marginal constituencies - could be some marginal constituencies where i could be some marginall constituencies where the could be some marginal- constituencies where the vote is very close. _ constituencies where the vote is very close, people _ constituencies where the vote is very close, people are - constituencies where the vote is very close, people are saying i constituencies where the vote is i very close, people are saying that they did _ very close, people are saying that they did not — very close, people are saying that they did not get _ very close, people are saying that they did not get their— very close, people are saying that they did not get their postal - very close, people are saying that they did not get their postal votei they did not get their postal vote and they— they did not get their postal vote and they didn't _ they did not get their postal vote and they didn't get _ they did not get their postal vote and they didn't get a _ they did not get their postal vote and they didn't get a chance - they did not get their postal vote and they didn't get a chance to l and they didn't get a chance to vote. _ and they didn't get a chance to vote. then _ and they didn't get a chance to vote. then we _ and they didn't get a chance to vote, then we could _ and they didn't get a chance to vote, then we could see - and they didn't get a chance to vote, then we could see some| and they didn't get a chance to - vote, then we could see some serious issues _ vote, then we could see some serious issues. �* . . ~ vote, then we could see some serious issues. �* , . ,, . vote, then we could see some serious issues. �*, . ,, . ., issues. let's talk about some of the substance and _ issues. let's talk about some of the substance and the _ issues. let's talk about some of the substance and the policies. - issues. let's talk about some of the substance and the policies. there . substance and the policies. there are many people who are struggling, still struggling with the ongoing cost of living crisis, and for many, expectations are low as to whether life will change or improve radically, whoever wins the election. the bbc�*s ed thomas was recently in grimsby, let's have a

look. shouldn't have to struggle on minimum wage. and it was here we met dom. still counted as homeless. he had borrowed cash from the pawnshop. you give them some things, they give you some money for it. and what was the money for? it was just so i could get some food. cost of living has gone so ridiculous to the point where i have been homeless three times this year. he struggled for a long time, then came the cost of living crisis. this is home, now, dom? yeah, pretty much, yeah. it's cosy. ymca, temporary supported accommodation. my freezer has some tater tots and chicken nuggets. dom had a zero—hour contract in a fish packing factory. but when shifts went down, bills went up. rent ended up going up four times within the space of six months. it messed me up. i just want to be able to live. all i've been doing is surviving and pushing through. that's all i can do,

it's survive or die. liz kendall, you could be the secretary of state for work and pensions dealing with welfare, how would you sort out that situation? the first thing he talked about is needing a decent home which is why we have committed to building 1.5 million more homes, which is absolutely essential. secondly, he talked about being on zero—hours contracts and we have said we will ban those exploitative contracts. we want to see a genuine living wage, and crucially, what he and many others need is to have more better paid jobs in every part of the country, which is why our local growth plans, what we are going to be doing on clean energy, how we are going to be transforming skills, are so important because ultimately we need to see more, better paid jobs and people who need them getting them. �* . . and people who need them getting them. �* , , ., , and people who need them getting them. 2, ., , �*, ., them. let's be honest, it's not auoin to them. let's be honest, it's not going to change _ them. let's be honest, it's not going to change for _ them. let's be honest, it's not going to change for dahmer. l them. let's be honest, it's not i going to change for dahmer. you them. let's be honest, it's not - going to change for dahmer. you are not a miracle worker but you are not

going to change things on day one. i going to change things on day one. i don't accept that people... there i don't accept that people... there has to be honesty. _ don't accept that people... there has to be honesty. there - don't accept that people... there has to be honesty. there is - don't accept that people... there . has to be honesty. there is honesty, i chair a programme _ has to be honesty. there is honesty, i chair a programme to _ has to be honesty. there is honesty, i chair a programme to end - has to be honesty. there is honesty, i chair a programme to end hunger. has to be honesty. there is honesty, | i chair a programme to end hunger in leicester, i have one in three people children growing up in poverty in my city. i know what the housing waiting lists are like but it does not have to be that way. i don't promise that things will change overnight, but we can and will make a start. i change overnight, but we can and will make a start.— will make a start. i have read the manifesto. _ will make a start. i have read the manifesto, and _ will make a start. i have read the manifesto, and it _ will make a start. i have read the manifesto, and it is _ will make a start. i have read the manifesto, and it is vague - will make a start. i have read the manifesto, and it is vague when l will make a start. i have read the | manifesto, and it is vague when it comes to your ambition to tackle poverty. you have set out some of these longer term, medium to long—term housing changes, etc, but in terms of that granular level change to that situation, labour candidate rosie duffield said to the bbc recently, we are not talking about poverty, we should be aiming to eliminate it particularly child poverty as soon as we can. we are scared of promising too much that might harm our lead but we have to

be to change the country needs. i be to change the country needs. i don't agree with that analysis. because we have a strong commitment on tackling child poverty and a bold cross government strategy to do that. . . cross government strategy to do that. l . cross government strategy to do that. . , ., cross government strategy to do that. l , l, ,l that. except he will not scrap the two child benefit _ that. except he will not scrap the two child benefit cap. _ that. except he will not scrap the two child benefit cap. this - that. except he will not scrap the two child benefit cap. this was i that. except he will not scrap the l two child benefit cap. this was not labour policy _ two child benefit cap. this was not labour policy and _ two child benefit cap. this was not labour policy and we _ two child benefit cap. this was not labour policy and we voted - two child benefit cap. this was not| labour policy and we voted against it but the absolutely critical thing that we have said is we need economic stability and we will only have promises, policies that we show how we can afford and let me tell you, if every single primary school has a free breakfast club so children start school with hungry minds are not hungry bellies, that will make a huge difference. if we have 8.5 —— 8500 more mental health workers and support in every school we will tackle one of the root causes of worklessness driving poverty and if we build those new homes, and have a genuine living wage,... is. homes, and have a genuine living wane,... . l, homes, and have a genuine living wane,... , l, , l, homes, and have a genuine living wae,... , l, , l, wage,... is, on the basis of if you win. we wage,... is, on the basis of if you win- we can _ wage,... is, on the basis of if you win. we can deliver _

wage,... is, on the basis of if you win. we can deliver because - wage,... is, on the basis of if you win. we can deliver because it. wage,... is, on the basis of if you | win. we can deliver because it can be different- _ win. we can deliver because it can be different. is _ win. we can deliver because it can be different. is that _ be different. is that transformative? - be different. is that i transformative? there be different. is that - transformative? there has be different. is that _ transformative? there has been a lot of disquiet about policies and the lack of them likely to child benefit cap because that would have an immediate effect on poverty and the numbers of children in poverty. is that an emission, a glaring omission by labour? it is. i would be amazed if most did not agree _ it is. i would be amazed if most did not agree with me. you can't understand why a labour government would _ understand why a labour government would not _ understand why a labour government would not change something that seems _ would not change something that seems so — would not change something that seems so egregious but to come back to dom _ seems so egregious but to come back to dom i_ seems so egregious but to come back to dom. i used to live in grimsby, it is to dom. ! used to live in grimsby, it is my— to dom. i used to live in grimsby, it is my old — to dom. i used to live in grimsby, it is my old local paper patch. 30 years _ it is my old local paper patch. 30 years ago— it is my old local paper patch. 30 years ago the problem was bringing 'obs years ago the problem was bringing iobs to— years ago the problem was bringing jobs to grimsby and it is still is. new— jobs to grimsby and it is still is. new governments have come in and .one new governments have come in and gone out _ new governments have come in and gone out and said, we will do something for your area, level it up but you _ something for your area, level it up but you are — something for your area, level it up but you are still struggling with the same problem which is how do you brin- the same problem which is how do you bring back— the same problem which is how do you bring back economic growth to places like that _

bring back economic growth to places like that in— bring back economic growth to places like that. in that manifesto, keir starmer— like that. in that manifesto, keir starmer is — like that. in that manifesto, keir starmer is banking on bringing back economic— starmer is banking on bringing back economic growth as the key to unlocking _ economic growth as the key to unlocking all the other things he wants— unlocking all the other things he wants to — unlocking all the other things he wants to do. i have not yet seen a mechanism — wants to do. i have not yet seen a mechanism that succeeds where other governments have failed. if you mechanism that succeeds where other governments have failed.— governments have failed. if you are auainst governments have failed. if you are against the — governments have failed. if you are against the child _ governments have failed. if you are against the child benefit, _ governments have failed. if you are against the child benefit, why - governments have failed. if you are against the child benefit, why not l against the child benefit, why not scrap _ against the child benefit, why not scrap it? — against the child benefit, why not scrap it? late _ against the child benefit, why not scra it? l l, , l,~ against the child benefit, why not scrait? l l, , , l, ,, scrap it? we can only make promises where we show _ scrap it? we can only make promises where we show we _ scrap it? we can only make promises where we show we can _ scrap it? we can only make promises where we show we can afford - scrap it? we can only make promises where we show we can afford them. l where we show we can afford them. let me say this on child poverty, i am proud of the last labour government's record on that and we want and intend to build on it, and we have already set out some first steps that will make a huge difference and when 70% of children growing up in poverty are in a working household, that's the big difference between now and when we were last in government... to gabb 's were last in government... to gabby's point, i have read in the manifesto — gabby's point, i have read in the manifesto these _ gabby's point, i have read in the manifesto these green - gabby's point, i have read in the manifesto these green jobs. - gabby's point, i have read in the| manifesto these greenjobs. how gabby's point, i have read in the - manifesto these green jobs. how will that help _ manifesto these green jobs. how will that help dom — manifesto these green jobs. how will that help dom who— manifesto these green jobs. how will that help dom who was _ manifesto these green jobs. how will that help dom who was once - manifesto these green jobs. how will that help dom who was once a - manifesto these green jobs. how will that help dom who was once a dish l that help dom who was once a dish packer— that help dom who was once a dish packer in _ that help dom who was once a dish

packer in grimsby? _ that help dom who was once a dish packer in grimsby? [— that help dom who was once a dish packer in grimsby? [amu— that help dom who was once a dish packer in grimsby?— packer in grimsby? i am in the olitics packer in grimsby? i am in the politics of— packer in grimsby? i am in the politics of hope _ packer in grimsby? i am in the politics of hope and _ packer in grimsby? i am in the politics of hope and change. i l politics of hope and change. i believe that if you can give people the skills they need to get the jobs of the future, perhaps not straightaway but most people you see like that, it is a journey. you had to get people a home then the skills they need, tackle any underlying problems like mental health problems and i have seen those people, just this week i went to a constituency of quite similar, on a coastal area, dealing with people with mental health problems. a man there who had tried to commit suicide three times, he is now ready to get a qualification. it is possible and we are determined to do it.— are determined to do it. chris, in work poverty _ are determined to do it. chris, in work poverty has _ are determined to do it. chris, in work poverty has grown - are determined to do it. chris, in work poverty has grown over - are determined to do it. chris, in work poverty has grown over the | are determined to do it. chris, in - work poverty has grown over the last 14 work poverty has grown over the last 1a years. that is the conservative party and successive conservative governments legacy. it can't be something you are proud of. firstly,

i think ou something you are proud of. firstly, i think you will _ something you are proud of. firstly, i think you will find _ something you are proud of. firstly, i think you will find poverty - i think you will find poverty figures _ i think you will find poverty figures amongst children have gone down _ figures amongst children have gone down |_ figures amongst children have gone down. l. l. ~ figures amongst children have gone down. l, l, ,, , l, figures amongst children have gone down. l, l, ~ , l, l, �* down. i am talking people who aren't workina, in down. i am talking people who aren't working, in households _ down. i am talking people who aren't working, in households where - down. i am talking people who aren't i working, in households where someone is in a job and they are in poverty. input from outside, the ukrainian crisis _ input from outside, the ukrainian crisis caused oil prices to go up but the — crisis caused oil prices to go up but the point is that dom, what dom wants— but the point is that dom, what dom wants and _ but the point is that dom, what dom wants and you have to admire people like him. _ wants and you have to admire people like him. he — wants and you have to admire people like him, he really wants to have a 'ob. like him, he really wants to have a job he _ like him, he really wants to have a job. he wants to get himself out of that hole — job. he wants to get himself out of that hole. it is great having a vacuous _ that hole. it is great having a vacuous and empty plan like labour havelll _ vacuous and empty plan like labour havelll we — vacuous and empty plan like labour have... l l. l. ~ vacuous and empty plan like labour have... l l, l, ,, l, have... we are talking about your record. levelling _ have. .. we are talking about your record. levelling up— have... we are talking about your record. levelling up hasn't - have... we are talking about your i record. levelling up hasn't happened in these parts of the country to the benefit of someone like don. let me give you the figures, 61% of working age adults live in a household in poverty and 11% of workers live in a household of poverty. conservatives and conservative governments,

instead of work being the path out of poverty, it has been the opposite. i of poverty, it has been the opposite-— of poverty, it has been the ouosite. , of poverty, it has been the o- osite. , l l, ~' opposite. i disagree entirely. work is the platform _ opposite. i disagree entirely. work is the platform that _ opposite. i disagree entirely. work is the platform that dom _ opposite. i disagree entirely. work is the platform that dom has - opposite. i disagree entirely. work i is the platform that dom has aspired is the platform that dom has aspired is his— is the platform that dom has aspired is his route _ is the platform that dom has aspired is his route out of this. we have set up _ is his route out of this. we have set up the — is his route out of this. we have set up the programme is to give people — set up the programme is to give people like don access to more skills. — people like don access to more skills. to — people like don access to more skills, to get betterjobs and you will see — skills, to get betterjobs and you will see from those figures, the unemployment figure is going down. what we _ unemployment figure is going down. what we have now is a lot of people who need _ what we have now is a lot of people who need to get back into the workplace and that has been costed in our— workplace and that has been costed in our manifesto where it is uncosted _ in our manifesto where it is uncosted in the labour one. not true. uncosted in the labour one. not true- fully _ uncosted in the labour one. iirrt true. fully costed plans to tackle the root causes of worthlessness. to reform the failed apprenticeship levy which is not delivering, especially for younger people. we have one in eight young people not in education, employment or training, that is terrible for them

and the taxpayer.— and the taxpayer. what is the difference _ and the taxpayer. what is the difference between _ and the taxpayer. what is the difference between what - and the taxpayer. what is the | difference between what chris and the taxpayer. what is the - difference between what chris has outlined in terms of getting people back into work, labour is offering something similar. you said, under our changed labour party, if you can work, they will be no option of a life on benefits. notjust because british people believe rights go hand in hand with responsibilities. we have always believed in work and i believe that work is good notjust because of a paycheque... in i believe that work is good not 'ust because of a paycheque. . .�* because of a paycheque. .. in your manifesto... _ because of a paycheque. .. in your manifesto... let chris _ because of a paycheque. .. in your manifesto... let chris respond. i because of a paycheque. .. in your manifesto... let chris respond. ll because of a paycheque. .. in your. manifesto... let chris respond. i am talkin: manifesto... let chris respond. i am talking about — manifesto... let chris respond. i am talking about rachel— manifesto... let chris respond. i am talking about rachel reeves's - talking about rachel reeves's document. there are zero savings in the welfare — document. there are zero savings in the welfare budget. we have a plan. there _ the welfare budget. we have a plan. there is— the welfare budget. we have a plan. there is no— the welfare budget. we have a plan. there is no money that you have already pencilled this into the baseline. you have no plans to

reform pip, it is all consultation and most of the things you have announced like reform the fit note... l, , l, note... do not believe in reform... i note... do not believe in reform... i absolutely — note... do not believe in reform... i absolutely believe _ note... do not believe in reform... i absolutely believe in _ note... do not believe in reform... i absolutely believe in reform. - note... do not believe in reform... i absolutely believe in reform. the| i absolutely believe in reform. the benefit system needs to encourage work and support people into work. people on sickness or disability benefits, if they get a job, they don't have two full back and go through it all again. we will tackle the route causes of worthlessness and crucially, we want a benefits system which focuses on getting people into work and on in their work. that is our plan and i'm afraid, when we have a situation where we have the record high in the number of people out of work... if number of people out of work... if you win the election, you will be judged on delivery. we will take a little breath and so for a moment, we look back over the election

campaign. rishi sunak could call an election as soon as today. i don't think there is any sensible appetite for this. we will have a general election on the 4th ofjuly. our plan to introduce a modern form of national service. i'm going to be banned from running for the labour party. _ she is free to go forward as a labour candidate. i've done it before, i'll do it again, i surprise everybody. would you, if you felt that that was the only way forward, use private health care, rishi sunak? yes. keir starmer? no. he would put up everyone's taxes by £2000. he knew he was lying. prime minister. gosh, hello. good to see you. very nice to see you, sorry to have kept you. not at all, yeah, it alljust ran over. 0n reflection, that was a mistake and i apologise. we are sleepwalking into a one—party socialist state.

snp! did you have inside information when you placed your bet on the election date? i've made a statement, it's an independent process. well, when i first learned about these allegations, i was furious. if any of my candidates l were being investigated by the gambling commission, they would be out the door. and their feet wouldn't touch the ground. - significant cuts across other services. now, we have called this a conspiracy of silence. boris, boris, boris, boris! thank you very much, thank you! are you two really the best we've got to be the next prime minister of our great country? applause. and the two men there, sir keir starmer and rishi sunak... reflections. that was joyous and reflections. that was “oyous and ins - irin . . reflections. that was “oyous and inspiring. to * reflections. that was “oyous and inspiring. to an h reflections. that was joyous and inspiring. to an extent, - reflections. that was joyous and inspiring. to an extent, it - reflections. that was joyous and inspiring. to an extent, it was i inspiring. to an extent, it was

there on the first day. rishi sunak in the rain, thinking, surely the rest of the campaign improve from here. �* r' , rest of the campaign improve from here. �* , . . rest of the campaign improve from here. , , , l, here. ask my listeners for the bi est here. ask my listeners for the biggest low — here. ask my listeners for the biggest low lights, _ here. ask my listeners for the biggest low lights, they - here. ask my listeners for the biggest low lights, they were | here. ask my listeners for the - biggest low lights, they were both featured _ biggest low lights, they were both featured in your story there, for the labour— featured in your story there, for the labour party it was diane abbott and four— the labour party it was diane abbott and four rishi sunak it was that d-day— and four rishi sunak it was that d—day desertion. | and four rishi sunak it was that d-day desertion.— and four rishi sunak it was that d-day desertion. ull d-day desertion. i saw you in our pull together— d-day desertion. i saw you in our pull together all— d-day desertion. i saw you in our pull together all recollections - pull together all recollections there at the titanic. was that a bad move? l. there at the titanic. was that a bad move? l, , l, l,, there at the titanic. was that a bad move? l, ,l, l, l, , move? faisal islam has already said he has made a _ move? faisal islam has already said he has made a mistake. _ move? faisal islam has already said he has made a mistake. titanic- move? faisal islam has already said he has made a mistake. titanic is i move? faisal islam has already said he has made a mistake. titanic is al he has made a mistake. titanic is a symbol— he has made a mistake. titanic is a symbol of— he has made a mistake. titanic is a symbol of rejuvenation, _ he has made a mistake. titanic is a symbol of rejuvenation, of- he has made a mistake. titanic is a symbol of rejuvenation, of rebirth, | symbol of rejuvenation, of rebirth, dynamic— symbol of rejuvenation, of rebirth, dynamic economic— symbol of rejuvenation, of rebirth, dynamic economic activity- symbol of rejuvenation, of rebirth, dynamic economic activity and - symbol of rejuvenation, of rebirth, . dynamic economic activity and having that in— dynamic economic activity and having that in the _ dynamic economic activity and having that in the background, _ dynamic economic activity and having that in the background, having - dynamic economic activity and having that in the background, having a - that in the background, having a reborn _ that in the background, having a reborn belfast _ that in the background, having a reborn belfast in _ that in the background, having a reborn belfast in the _ that in the background, having a i reborn belfast in the background... rishi _ reborn belfast in the background... rishi sunak— reborn belfast in the background... rishi sunak was _ reborn belfast in the background... rishi sunak was asked _ reborn belfast in the background... rishi sunak was asked about - reborn belfast in the background... i rishi sunak was asked about whether he was the captain of a sinking ship and you were stood right next to him. , ., i and you were stood right next to him-_ i am _ and you were stood right next to him._ i am really - and you were stood right next to i him._ i am really proud and you were stood right next to i him._ i am really proud of him. he is not. i am really proud of

the campaign _ him. he is not. i am really proud of the campaign we — him. he is not. i am really proud of the campaign we have _ him. he is not. i am really proud of the campaign we have run. - him. he is not. i am really proud of the campaign we have run. we - him. he is not. i am really proud of| the campaign we have run. we have had a simple message, it is time for change and that resonated. personally, if you like people, as i do, i love a campaign. i love meeting people, i love going out, knocking on doors, visiting people who were actually doing amazing things. i am always disappointed we don't get to talk more about the policies. there is only one visit i have done where they reported on the visit. i am optimistic because there are some great people out there. at, are some great people out there. a lot of people said there wasn't enough hope. we haven't got long. prediction? i think it will be a labour— prediction? i think it will be a labour victory, prediction? i think it will be a labourvictory, it prediction? i think it will be a labour victory, it will not be as high _ labour victory, it will not be as high as— labour victory, it will not be as high as the _ labour victory, it will not be as high as the polls will be. labour landslide and _ high as the polls will be. labour landslide and the _ high as the polls will be. labour landslide and the surprise - high as the polls will be. labour landslide and the surprise will l high as the polls will be. labourl landslide and the surprise will be how well— landslide and the surprise will be how well reform _ landslide and the surprise will be how well reform does _ landslide and the surprise will be how well reform does or - landslide and the surprise will be how well reform does or doesn'ti landslide and the surprise will be - how well reform does or doesn't do. that is_ how well reform does or doesn't do. that is all— how well reform does or doesn't do. that is all we — how well reform does or doesn't do. that is all we have _ how well reform does or doesn't do. that is all we have time _ how well reform does or doesn't do. that is all we have time for. - how well reform does or doesn't do. that is all we have time for. there i that is all we have time for. there is no programme tomorrow because it

is no programme tomorrow because it is polling day but our election programme starts tomorrow evening after the exit poll drops and then continues throughout the night and the next day. thank you to our viewers for keeping me company throughout the campaign, thank you to our guests for ending the campaign and also to our wonderful team who have put this programme together for five weeks. we are back on monday, goodbye.

today at one... in the final hours of the election campaign, party leaders are racing round the country with a last minute push to win over floating voters. but a conservative cabinet minister has admitted he thinks labour are about to win with what may be the biggest landslide in british political history. also on the programme this lunchtime... hurricane beryl heads towards jamaica. it's already battered several other nations in the caribbean. a mother admits using morphine to end the life of her terminally ill son a0 years ago. i said, "would you like me to remove the pain?" he said, "yes please, mama". and a british dream team at wimbledon. andy murray will play mixed doubles with emma raducanu at this year's tournament. coming up on sportsday on bbc news, we'll get the latest from the england camp where all 26 players train

this morning as they prepare for their european championship