this is bbc news. welcome to the programme. we will head straight to downing street. a very busy morning. keir starmer chairing his first cabinet meeting which is broken up and they have been walking out of that door after their very first meeting. standing by, my colleague

is live for us there. hello. hello. welcome back to a very wet downing street. on sir keir starmer�*s first full day as prime minister. he vowed to start work immediately and as you can see he has already held his first meeting of his newly appointed cabinet. the prime minister as you can see their welcoming and steam a short while ago. lots of smiles, a very relaxed looking cabinet but, really, the message that keir starmer is putting forward today is that this cabinet means business and wants to get started as soon as possible. i am joined here by our political correspondent helen who has been monitoring thing today. what are we expecting from this press conference? keir starmer has said from the outset that there is a lot of work to do and we will start that work straightaway.— of work to do and we will start that work straightaway. yes, and the fact he is holding — work straightaway. yes, and the fact he is holding a _ work straightaway. yes, and the fact he is holding a press _ work straightaway. yes, and the fact he is holding a press conference - he is holding a press conference todayis he is holding a press conference today is supposed to send a signal. he talks about this being a new style and that he is all about

accountability. this is the sort of thing that you often see in the first days of a new government, then wanting to put their message out, this is how we're going to govern. today, that first cabinet meeting on a saturday morning getting down to work. they have talked about the big overarching message of the campaign was change for labour. but keir starmer is very clear that he can't change everything overnight and that he has set up first steps that he wants to work on. so i would expect that we would see some of those first bits of that coming out in the next few days because he will want to be seen to be making the starting getting on with the work and trying to get their agenda in place. also i think there will be some natural frustration about having been in opposition for so long. that sort of keenness to get on and start getting on with what they want to do. you can't really underestimate how frustrating it is for politicians to

be in opposition to constantly be voted down and not be able to implement the things that they think will fix the country. so i think there will be a bit of impatience once you in government to start to change things where you can. impatience but also the desire not to have the feel of someone who is rushing things as well, i imagine. absolutely. and that is something that we have seen so keir starmer balanced throughout the campaign. when he was talking about labour�*s chances he was being very cautious. we have seen them do that in the past and i'm sure that's what we will see more of, the tempering so it doesn't look like they are rushing in but also being seen to try and change things, be seen to starting to make a difference pretty early. i starting to make a difference pretty earl . , , starting to make a difference pretty earl. , ., ., early. i suppose one of the key oints to early. i suppose one of the key points to make _ early. i suppose one of the key points to make is _ early. i suppose one of the key points to make is that - early. i suppose one of the key points to make is that this - early. i suppose one of the key i points to make is that this cabinet is made up of almost entirely, in the same way of the shadow cabinet. very few levels of movement there. that really underlines the fact that we are going to see steady as she

goes attitude. we are going to see steady as she goes attitude-— goes attitude. absolutely. and it was art goes attitude. absolutely. and it was part of _ goes attitude. absolutely. and it was part of a _ goes attitude. absolutely. and it was part of a plan. _ goes attitude. absolutely. and it was part of a plan. the - goes attitude. absolutely. and it was part of a plan. the reason i goes attitude. absolutely. and it| was part of a plan. the reason we didn't see those surprises there is that keir starmer�*s team has been preparing for this for a long time. he brought in sue gray as his chief of staff, a former head of civil service. he knows what it will mean to be in government, that is why there is shadow minister have gone in almost exactly the roles that they shudder to try and keep that continuity. but and it is a big but, opposition and government is different things. they will have had talks with the civil service in the run—up to this, they will have had those access talks and they will know what they want to do with their agenda. actually, once you become the government, overnight you take on a whole load of other challenges, problems, things that need to be done. so he is going to have to deal with all of those, the things that come up and come out of nowhere and balance them with trying to set his agenda. and that is the challenge of government that you don't have an

opposition as much.— opposition as much. absolutely. thank you _ opposition as much. absolutely. thank you for— opposition as much. absolutely. thank you for that _ opposition as much. absolutely. thank you for that helen. - opposition as much. absolutely. thank you for that helen. we i opposition as much. absolutely. | thank you for that helen. we will take you to somewhere else as we await that press conference by the prime minister. the general election was not only a labour landslide but also a lot of high—profile conservative candidates. liz truss lost her majority of 26,000 which was overturned in south norfolk. grant shapps lost his seat. also we saw the influential backbencher sir jacob rees—mogg beaten in north—east some of that. having had a seat with a majority of more than 14,000. i'll correspond in portsmouth the scene of another significant political upset. in portsmouth north... democracy is never wrong- — in portsmouth north... democracy is never wrong- it _ in portsmouth north... democracy is never wrong. it is _ in portsmouth north... democracy is never wrong. it is all—

in portsmouth north... democracy is never wrong. it is all gone _ in portsmouth north... democracy is never wrong. it is all gone south - in portsmouth north... democracy is never wrong. it is all gone south a i never wrong. it is all gone south a penny mordaunt. _ never wrong. it is all gone south a penny mordaunt. one _ never wrong. it is all gone south a penny mordaunt. one is _ never wrong. it is all gone south a| penny mordaunt. one is viewed by some as a potential tory party leader she lost her seat to labour. you can speak or you like of security and freedom but you can't have either if you are afraid. penny mordaunt's — have either if you are afraid. penny mordaunt's defeat _ have either if you are afraid. penny mordaunt's defeat is _ have either if you are afraid. penny mordaunt's defeat is a _ have either if you are afraid. penny mordaunt's defeat is a scene - mordaunt's defeat is a scene experienced in many other places. so a day after the results, what do voters now think? at this pet parlour, the manager hasn't yet heard about the labour victory until we popped in. labour won by a landslide. we popped in. labour won by a landslide-— landslide. brilliant. brilliant. i voted for labour. _ landslide. brilliant. brilliant. i voted for labour. she - landslide. brilliant. brilliant. i| voted for labour. she believes landslide. brilliant. brilliant. i- voted for labour. she believes they can leave the _ voted for labour. she believes they can leave the country _ voted for labour. she believes they can leave the country to _ voted for labour. she believes they can leave the country to a - voted for labour. she believes they can leave the country to a better i can leave the country to a better future. i can leave the country to a better future. ., , ., can leave the country to a better future. . , ., ., ., ., ~ future. i am 'ust an average worker and the cat’— future. i am just an average worker and the cost of _ future. i am just an average worker and the cost of living _ future. i am just an average worker and the cost of living crisis - future. i am just an average worker and the cost of living crisis is - and the cost of living crisis is really having its toll on everyone around me including myself and i want things to be changed so that it would benefit, notjust myself, but

everyone around me.— everyone around me. over at the binale everyone around me. over at the isingle das— everyone around me. over at the bingle das dingo _ everyone around me. over at the bingle das dingo hall, _ everyone around me. over at the bingle das dingo hall, customersj bingle das dingo hall, customers had very different views on the result. i voted conservative. i did very different views on the result. i voted conservative.— i voted conservative. i did vote conservative. _ i voted conservative. i did vote conservative. i— i voted conservative. i did vote conservative. i voted _ i voted conservative. i did vote conservative. i voted for - i voted conservative. i did vote conservative. i voted for nigel| conservative. i voted for nigel fara . e, conservative. i voted for nigel farage. not — conservative. i voted for nigel farage, not because _ conservative. i voted for nigel farage, not because i- conservative. i voted for nigel farage, not because i like - conservative. i voted for nigel farage, not because i like him conservative. i voted for nigel- farage, not because i like him but it was a protest vote. you farage, not because i like him but it was a protest vote.— farage, not because i like him but it was a protest vote. you kept your vote for the — it was a protest vote. you kept your vote for the conservatives? - it was a protest vote. you kept your vote for the conservatives? i - it was a protest vote. you kept your vote for the conservatives? i did - vote for the conservatives? i did and i am vote for the conservatives? i did and i am gutted _ vote for the conservatives? i did and i am gutted that _ vote for the conservatives? i did and i am gutted that they didn't win _ and i am gutted that they didn't win. �* ., and i am gutted that they didn't win. �* . . , ., win. but what about the future under a labour government? _ win. but what about the future under a labour government? to _ win. but what about the future under a labour government? to be - win. but what about the future under| a labour government? to be honest, ou have a labour government? to be honest, you have got — a labour government? to be honest, you have got to _ a labour government? to be honest, you have got to give _ a labour government? to be honest, you have got to give them _ a labour government? to be honest, you have got to give them a - a labour government? to be honest, you have got to give them a chance. l you have got to give them a chance. what _ you have got to give them a chance. what else _ you have got to give them a chance. what else can you do? | you have got to give them a chance. what else can you do?— what else can you do? i hope there will be better— what else can you do? i hope there will be better than _ what else can you do? i hope there will be better than what _ what else can you do? i hope there will be better than what the - will be better than what the conservatives have been in that they listen to people. the conservatives have been in that they listen to people-— listen to people. the swing head to labour listen to people. the swing head to labour was — listen to people. the swing head to labour was 1896. _ listen to people. the swing head to labour was 1896. we _ listen to people. the swing head to labour was 1896. we also _ listen to people. the swing head to labour was 1896. we also found - listen to people. the swing head to | labour was 1896. we also found that labour was 18%. we also found that some found the selection to be a turn off. who did you vote for? i didn't vote. i didn't _

turn off. who did you vote for? i didn't vote. i didn't vote. - turn off. who did you vote for? i didn't vote. i didn't vote. what l turn off. who did you vote for? i l didn't vote. i didn't vote. what did ou make didn't vote. i didn't vote. what did you make of _ didn't vote. i didn't vote. what did you make of the _ didn't vote. i didn't vote. what did you make of the election - didn't vote. i didn't vote. what did you make of the election result? l didn't vote. i didn't vote. what did you make of the election result? i | you make of the election result? i didn't vote. did _ you make of the election result? i didn't vote. did you _ you make of the election result? i didn't vote. did you vote? - you make of the election result? i didn't vote. did you vote? no. - you make of the election result? i | didn't vote. did you vote? no. the owner of the _ didn't vote. did you vote? no. the owner of the shop _ didn't vote. did you vote? no. the owner of the shop did _ didn't vote. did you vote? no. the owner of the shop did vote. - didn't vote. did you vote? no. the owner of the shop did vote. here | owner of the shop did vote. here amid the quirky, quaint and quite frankly unique items for sale, i asked her what the future will be under labour. are you optimistic neutral or pessimistic?— under labour. are you optimistic neutral or pessimistic? neutral -ish but a . ain i neutral or pessimistic? neutral -ish but again i still— neutral or pessimistic? neutral -ish but again i still don't _ neutral or pessimistic? neutral -ish but again i still don't know. - neutral or pessimistic? neutral -ish but again i still don't know. i - but again i still don't know. i can't give you any answers. we have just got to wait and see, haven't we? . ., , . , ., , we? one constituency with many voices. we? one constituency with many voices- all— we? one constituency with many voices. all waiting _ we? one constituency with many voices. all waiting to _ we? one constituency with many voices. all waiting to see - we? one constituency with many voices. all waiting to see just - we? one constituency with many| voices. all waiting to see just like the rest of the country. portsmouth north. well, the last general election was about the conservatives dismantling the so—called red wool in the midlands. this one was about labour

rebuilding it. the political map looks very different including in the midlands well either reclaim seat where it had previously held. this report now from northampton. at this cafe they were slowly digesting the news but on a momentous day the result had left a bitter taste. i voted for conservative. obviously we knew labour was going to win and they've won. my concerns were they're going to put the minimum wage up, which is all right, but minimum wage goes up, everything else is going to go up. over at the market, it was the best news possible for richie, who's voted labour ever since he moved here from zimbabwe a quarter of a century ago. tony blair and all them lot, they were doing the right thing. obviously things didn't go the right way after all. but with, you know, with these things, you have to listen to the people and try to do what, you know, you promise, not to say one thing and then you do the other thing. wolverhampton's typical of many towns and cities in the midlands and the north of england, which were solidly labour

for generations but then the conservatives chipped away until 2019, when they demolished the so—called red wall. now they've rebuilt it, perhaps only temporarily, but they'll be hoping that their foundations are strong. but turnout was low, the conservative vote collapsed, and even those happy that labour won weren't exactly overjoyed. yeah, i'm pleased with the result because i voted labour. but, you know, always something new, you don't know how it's going to go. this election proved that people are much more likely to switch allegiances than in the past. over an afternoon pint in the posada, graham and alan told me they voted reform for the first time. a lot of people would say that the reform vote is a protest vote, and it's a one—off. i wouldn't think so, no. why shouldn't we have a change? the tories and labour promise everything, we never get it. and they're going to say taxes are not going up, but it will go up. we will be taxed.

i've always voted labour. ever since i've been able to vote, i voted labour. how do you feel with a labour government now if you always have been a labour voter? well, i'm not a great fan of keir starmer, that's the one thing, and i don't think they're going to do anything about one of the biggest things, the immigration coming in. i don't think they're going to do a lot about that. back at jack's, husband and wife rav and jazz were tucking into a late breakfast. she didn't vote but, in a city which has swung back and forth between the two main parties, he reluctantly chose labour. yes, i did, but it's not exactly because i wanted to, but i'm guessing more of majority supporters, so i've gone along with them, which i knew that labour would probably win, more than likely, but it is what it is, we've just got to see. despite the huge majority, the mood didn't seem as optimistic as it was the last time labour won a huge majority.

but then the choice is never easy. labour won all three wolverhampton seats, but its vote here barely increased since the last time, when the conservatives won two. phil mackie, bbc news, wolverhampton. well, a recount in the last undeclared seat is taking place. there was initial count on thursday night, a recount on friday but the initial result remains undecided. our correspondent georgia roberts is monitoring events for us in dingwall and gave us this update. this monitoring events for us in dingwall and gave us this update.— and gave us this update. this is the last constituency _ and gave us this update. this is the last constituency to _ and gave us this update. this is the last constituency to declare. - and gave us this update. this is the last constituency to declare. it - and gave us this update. this is the last constituency to declare. it was | last constituency to declare. it was said that there were issues in the count. there were discrepancies between the verified vote total and the numbers counted. here we are again on saturday morning. we are expecting a result at some point this afternoon. but the situation here is that the snp have already

conceded defeat. the candidate is not at the count today. he said he had prior commitments but this is now expected to be another liberal democrat gain. the local businessman is the candidate here he is down on the floor in full dress. he said he is optimistic that although the liberal democrats are expecting to take this constituency today it is not official until the count is done and the returning officer has declared. it would mean a lot for the liberal democrats to take this constituency once again, it's a bit personal for them constituency once again, it's a bit personalfor them here. it was formerly held by the former leader of the party charles kennedy until it was taken by the snp in that famous landslide that the party had in 2015. of course the mood amongst the snp this weekend after totally just nine —— totalling just nine seats in the election in 2024 is very different. if the liberal democrats take the seat that would

take them to the tally of six seats in scotland. just a handful behind the snp's nine seats. a pretty extraordinary set of results that we saw in scotland yesterday. we expect the final result for the whole of the final result for the whole of the uk to be declared sometime this afternoon here in dingwall. weill. afternoon here in dingwall. well, welcome back _ afternoon here in dingwall. well, welcome back to _ afternoon here in dingwall. well, welcome back to downing - afternoon here in dingwall. well, welcome back to downing street. if you have a look behind me you can see that the bunting is on its way up. that is of course, for the england match at five o'clock against switzerland. a big kick up for the england team in the quarterfinals of the euro smack and downing street are supporting the team as i am sure many people up and down the country. the priorities and energy has been one of our correspondent has been explaining. a central promise of the

el ancient and green energy lies right at the heart how it plans to deliver that. right at the heart how it plans to deliverthat. keir right at the heart how it plans to deliver that. keir starmer says he is willing to make enemies to ensure that new onshore wind turbines and solar farms are built and built quickly. we will also need a web of new pylons to carry all of the electricity these new facilities generate to the national grid. keir starmer said he was ready to take what he called the tough decisions on planning to make sure all of this happens. we can expect ministers to be a begin proposing changes to the planning rules within the next few days. we can expect something else as well. we can expect big protest in the communities affected by these new projects. because they won'tjust reshape britain because my energy future, they will also change how part of this country look. that is our climate editor there. you can see on your screen the cabinet meeting, the welcome of the

new cabinet with keir starmer there at the centre of things. we are expecting a press conference from the prime minister at one o'clock, in about 15 orso the prime minister at one o'clock, in about 15 or so minutes' time. what is he going to talk about? what are the main issues that we are going to here put forward? will there be any surprises? let's cross live to lucy fisher and editor at the financial times. thank you for coming and speaking to me here. are we expecting any surprises today or are we going to expect keir starmer to underline what he has already said to us about the job that needs to be done? it’s said to us about the 'ob that needs to be done?— to be done? it's quite unusual in some ways _ to be done? it's quite unusual in some ways that _ to be done? it's quite unusual in some ways that he _ to be done? it's quite unusual in some ways that he is _ to be done? it's quite unusual in some ways that he is holding - to be done? it's quite unusual in some ways that he is holding a l to be done? it's quite unusual in - some ways that he is holding a press conference on its first full day in office. i think certainly it is a chance for him, an opportunity to underline the fact that he wants to hit the ground running, perhaps dress those lines that we heard him make in his first speech herejust yesterday. it could be that he is trying to drop some policy today. we will have to wait and see. we know that in the first few days, he wants to get forward on the planning

front. reimpose targets the housing bill, rewriting the national planning framework so it is favourable towards development. there is a presumption in favour of people being able to build because making cheaper and quicker to build infrastructure is a key part of driving that core mission for economic growth which is at the heart of his programme for government. and, of course, because he has promised to wake ten weeks for a proper budget that rachel reeves will deliver, at that won't come, i think, reeves will deliver, at that won't come, ithink, until october. this is one of the few things that he can get going on on the growth agenda before that budget. what get going on on the growth agenda before that budget.— get going on on the growth agenda before that budget. what about the detail, before that budget. what about the detail. many _ before that budget. what about the detail, many complained _ before that budget. what about the detail, many complained that - before that budget. what about the j detail, many complained that detail was lacking in the lead up to the election. i was lacking in the lead up to the election. ., «a was lacking in the lead up to the election. ~' ., ., election. i think in the weeks ahead with this stunning _ election. i think in the weeks ahead with this stunning majority - election. i think in the weeks ahead with this stunning majority that he l with this stunning majority that he won and the mandate that that hens, let's see if he is a little bit bolder than some of the slightly thinner parts of the manifesto suggested that he would be. irate thinner parts of the manifesto suggested that he would be. we have seen in the past _ suggested that he would be. we have seen in the past a _ suggested that he would be. we have seen in the past a different _ suggested that he would be. we have seen in the past a different cabinet i seen in the past a different cabinet being announced, this cabinet is

basically the shadow cabinet, what difference do think that is going to make to make to the way which they can do business moving forward? it will make it easier, won't it, because many of them will already have been in touch of the office and will have a good idea of what their brief will be about?— brief will be about? exactly. they wanted continuity _ brief will be about? exactly. they wanted continuity from _ brief will be about? exactly. they wanted continuity from the - brief will be about? exactly. they i wanted continuity from the shadow cabinet to the cabinet. they have had access talks with the civil service. that means these now cabinet ministers have met the secretaries in their respective departments at least twice. they are been able to communicate what their priorities are in advance for those departments. let's see beyond the first few months of first year whether it remains quite a stable. of whether it remains quite a stable. of course, there were some eye—catching appointments last night made that weren't expected. patrick vallance, the former scientific adviser to the governments. the chief executive of the high street retailer that is done so much to help ex offenders made prisons

minister. and a leading human rights kc made his attorney general. there is a little bit — kc made his attorney general. there is a little bit different. _ kc made his attorney general. there is a little bit different. one _ kc made his attorney general. there is a little bit different. one of- kc made his attorney general. there is a little bit different. one of my - is a little bit different. one of my journalist colleagues describe them as thoughtful and ambitious. absolutely right. a leaf out of the gordon brown playbook of talent showing that he wants to bring a broad range of people into government. i think we will see in the weeks ahead striking people in the weeks ahead striking people in the world of business, advisers to the world of business, advisers to the government, again making clear that he is in listening mode, it is an open face in government and that he wants to sweep and talent where he wants to sweep and talent where he can find it. he wants to sweep and talent where he can find it— he can find it. taught me a little bit more about _ he can find it. taught me a little bit more about the _ he can find it. taught me a little bit more about the style - he can find it. taught me a little bit more about the style of - he can find it. taught me a little bit more about the style of sir i bit more about the style of sir keir starmer and what we are going to get in the press conference. because the way in which he wants to be construed as prime minister is quite different to anything we have seen before, isn't it? that different to anything we have seen before, isn't it?— before, isn't it? that is right. in some ways _ before, isn't it? that is right. in some ways and _ before, isn't it? that is right. in some ways and another - before, isn't it? that is right. in some ways and another others l before, isn't it? that is right. in| some ways and another others a before, isn't it? that is right. in - some ways and another others a lot has been made of a lot has been made about how similar he is to rishi sunak. they are both quite forensic

people who like a lot of detail before making decisions. both very technocratic in their styles. so keir starmer knocks cy always seen as the most nimble politician but thoughtful and likes to have the data in front of him. i think that is something that we might see from his government, a stronger reliance of data perhaps building on the data units that dominic cummings first introduced in order to help policy development and measure the outcomes of those new policies as they are implemented. shes of those new policies as they are implemented-— of those new policies as they are imlemented. �* , .., , , implemented. as we can see behind us, we implemented. as we can see behind us. we have — implemented. as we can see behind us. we have got _ implemented. as we can see behind us. we have got a — implemented. as we can see behind us, we have got a bit _ implemented. as we can see behind us, we have got a bit of— implemented. as we can see behind us, we have got a bit of bunting. - us, we have got a bit of bunting. how much boost winning run when gave sir keir starmer? i how much boost winning run when gave sir keir starmer?— sir keir starmer? i think it would be a bit of _ sir keir starmer? i think it would be a bit of boost. _ sir keir starmer? i think it would be a bit of boost. good _ sir keir starmer? i think it would be a bit of boost. good well- sir keir starmer? i think it would be a bit of boost. good well and| be a bit of boost. good well and good feeling throughout the nation. i think that is something he would definitely try to capitalise on if it goes in glen's way were later today. it goes in glen's way were later toda . . ., it goes in glen's way were later toda . ., ,, i. it goes in glen's way were later toda. ., ,, i. it goes in glen's way were later toda. ., ,, . ., ., today. thank you so much for “oining us. let's today. thank you so much for “oining let-stalk— today. thank you so much for “oining us. let's talk a i today. thank you so much for “oining us. let's talk a bit * today. thank you so much for “oining us. let's talk a bit more h today. thank you so much forjoining us. let's talk a bit more about - today. thank you so much forjoining us. let's talk a bit more about the i us. let's talk a bit more about the conservatives and where they go from here. let's talk to jesse

conservatives and where they go from here. let's talk tojesse norman from the conservative party who is former minister of state for transport. the conservative party has taken a majority in hereford and south herefordshire and held the seat. i wanted to talk to you though, a little bit first of all about the challenge facing the conservative party from today. well. conservative party from today. well, es, thank conservative party from today. well, yes. thank you _ conservative party from today. well, yes. thank you very _ conservative party from today. well, yes, thank you very much _ conservative party from today. -ii yes, thank you very much indeed. there is a very significant challenge, this has been a landslide election. in the first task for the conservative party, i would say, is to recognise that fact and acknowledge it and, in some sense, own it because this is a moment for profound reflection on why voters have voted as they have done and what that means and how the conservative party can, as it were, remould itself to party politics. i think the central factor right now is just trying to find a way with so

few mps comparatively to be the opposition that the conservatives want to be. i opposition that the conservatives want to be— want to be. i am not sure about that. i want to be. i am not sure about that- ithink— want to be. i am not sure about that. i think there _ want to be. i am not sure about that. i think there are _ want to be. i am not sure about that. i think there are plenty . want to be. i am not sure about that. i think there are plenty of| that. i think there are plenty of important mps left in the parliamentary party. the process of regrouping and i am pleased to see that rishi sunak made clear that he will continue to lead the party whilst that is under way. what's that means is this process of reflection. in consideration. in some respects, that means thinking about what the conservative party has been its philosophical principles. i think it also implies a critique of the way in which it has been exercised over the last two years. i think there has been much centralisation, much too much personal government rather than collective cabinet responsibility. and i think personally, like all conservatives, i think all institutions are wider on the whole than individuals. therefore collective responsibility, as we

have historically exercised, is the right way to behave. and starting with tony blair, but more recently with tony blair, but more recently with more recent conservative prime ministers, that is being eroded. lots of personal decisions that don't get is well considered across government, they are not as well consulted on and frankly, they don't bring people, the elected representatives of the party with them. and those elected representatives are elected by their own constituents and if they cannot be heard and they are likely to react. and we see bad policy they react. and we see bad policy they react. so i think those decisions will be contributing to the trials at their parties had in the last weeks and months. you at their parties had in the last weeks and months.— at their parties had in the last weeks and months. you have said, haven't you. _ weeks and months. you have said, haven't you, this _ weeks and months. you have said, haven't you, this is _ weeks and months. you have said, haven't you, this is the _ weeks and months. you have said, haven't you, this is the time - weeks and months. you have said, haven't you, this is the time for . haven't you, this is the time for plain speaking. what does plain speaking sound like? i plain speaking. what does plain speaking sound like?— plain speaking. what does plain speaking sound like? i think plain s-ueakin speaking sound like? i think plain speaking dwells _ speaking sound like? i think plain speaking dwells on _ speaking sound like? i think plain speaking dwells on some - speaking sound like? i think plain speaking dwells on some of- speaking sound like? i think plain speaking dwells on some of the l speaking dwells on some of the points i have made, it is frank with acknowledging mistakes, frank with recognising style is a government that aren't working and perhaps are

hostile to our best traditions of the party. but it also, i think, is open about understanding, the major consideration in many cases is actually not so much the growth of reform, that is the one that has caught the media attention as a party, it is the way in which the conservative party has lost the confidence of the centre of the spectrum. a number of traditional conservative voters who have just sat on their hands because they weren't happy with any of the options that were put in front of them, including the party that they are formally supported. and so those are formally supported. and so those are the things that we as a group and a party have got to reflect on and a party have got to reflect on and i am sure we will do that. but i wanted to do it deeply and systematically.— wanted to do it deeply and systematically. wanted to do it deeply and s stematicall . ,, ., , systematically. should it be the centre of politics _ systematically. should it be the centre of politics that _ systematically. should it be the centre of politics that the - centre of politics that the conservatives need to look to now then, ratherthan conservatives need to look to now then, rather than the right? the -a then, rather than the right? the party should _ then, ratherthan the right? tie: party should always have an heir to the best interest of electors whatever they are across the

political spectrum, that means listening to the confirm of reform electorates which are actually valid, that feeling of incapability of government that we have seen, the feeling of powerlessness that people have had, the feeling of concern about legal and illegal immigration. it also means thinking about the core issues of public services that we are seeing. it is very interesting. i mean, it's all very well for the labour partyjust one in, sweeping on the basis of this extremely unclear but very strong electoral mandate but, you know, i don't think the public realises that large chunks of the most beautiful county in england will be covered by pylons and that and indeed possibly wales as well, that is a kind of pollution of its own that people will react very strongly against. they don't want to see england's green and pleasant land destroyed and they don't want to see it

imposed there are a whole series of concerns that will come to the surface now because labour on this side did not see clarity and transparency of its own mandate and i think, both of those sides will have to be heard from. you i think, both of those sides will have to be heard from. you were a former minister _ have to be heard from. you were a former minister for _ have to be heard from. you were a former minister for the _ have to be heard from. you were a former minister for the state - former minister for the state for transport. new hague is now the new state for transport. what do you think on the challenges for her and what you think the challenges after herfor what you think the challenges after her for national renationalisation the real way? is her for national renationalisation the real way?— her for national renationalisation therealwa ? , ., ., the real way? is worse transport and business, the real way? is worse transport and business. the _ the real way? is worse transport and business, the transport _ the real way? is worse transport and business, the transport has - the real way? is worse transport and business, the transport has always l business, the transport has always an area close to my heart. i do wonder where the money is going to come from. until covert, ourtrain service, although widely... there was a lot of discussion. it did not require enormous amounts of subsidy,

. whether it is really true that taking all these things back into public ownership and funding them out of the taxpayer's purse, when the unions in these industries are going to be demanding more on their side, i think that is going to create real problems. again, it goes to a lack of transparency in the labour manifesto and mandate in this area and i feel the general public could get quite concerns when they realise what this would do to taxation and train prices. jesse norman, taxation and train prices. jesse norman. it _ taxation and train prices. jesse norman, it has _ taxation and train prices. jesse norman, it has been _ taxation and train prices. jesse norman, it has been good - taxation and train prices. jesse norman, it has been good to i taxation and train prices. jesse norman, it has been good to talk to you. thank you once again for talking to us. here we are at downing street. it is very wet indeed. who knew that it was july the 6th? it soaking and cold as well. enough moaning from me. we are waiting for the press conference to

begin. the new prime minister keir starmer will be giving a press conference and also taking questions at the end of that press conference. it is happening in a few minutes' time so while we wait for that to happen. we will bring in our political correspondent helen was with me now. as mentioned earlier from the financial times, it's quite unusualfor from the financial times, it's quite unusual for a from the financial times, it's quite unusualfor a prime minister to be giving a press conference on a saturday afternoon after the election. why do you think is doing is? , , ., , ., election. why do you think is doing is? , , ., , , is? this is about these first few da s in is? this is about these first few days in government _ is? this is about these first few days in government are - is? this is about these first few days in government are always| is? this is about these first few - days in government are always about setting the tone, how are you going to govern and how you going to do things? i think this is part of that. numberten things? i think this is part of that. number ten sources are suggesting it's about showing that he wants to be accountable. putting himself up in the first day with some questions, bit of media scrutiny. firstly, it suggests that he is working on a saturday, cracking straight on with the job. he is working, going on the ground

immediately. it allows him to set the agenda immediately out of after the agenda immediately out of after the election. it depends what he is going to say in this press conference, do we get any initial bits of policy on the first day. if we do, what are those bits of policy that then show you what his government is going to be about? because that is what these first few hours, these first few days are all about. as well as doing the practical stuff behind the scenes, he's also been taking calls from international leaders, the president of australia today, the president of the japan he's also been talking to today. so there's been a strange mix of having to do the state stuff, the stuff that happens behind the scenes but also trying to really put your stamp on how the government is going to run and how it is going to be different perhaps from those that have come before. and that is the key thing, isn't it? to be different but give a sense of

continuity as well because that is one of the things he wants to underline, the fact that he is steadying the ship, isn't it? he is not rocking _ steadying the ship, isn't it? he is not rocking it. _ steadying the ship, isn't it? he is not rocking it. yes. _ steadying the ship, isn't it? he is not rocking it. yes. and - steadying the ship, isn't it? he is not rocking it. yes. and if- steadying the ship, isn't it? he is not rocking it. yes. and if you - not rocking it. yes. and if you think of his first steps. he was talking about one of those being economic stability.