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now on bbc news, newscast. newscast from the bbc. hello, it's adam in the newscast studio. and laura in the newscast studio. and paddy in the newscast studio. i'm glad we all remembered our names. laura, i'm impressed that you've done, what, 96 hours work solid and you didn't have any breakfast this morning? that's why i'm pleased i remembered my name. you've just been eating news. this is newscast, which is the bbc�*s daily news podcast. although, in the last few weeks, it's felt sort of hourly. and on wednesday i did an episode that was six hours long. did you? idid. right. so we will talk about what's happening right now in downing street because the new cabinet are meeting.

we'll talk about what might happen with the conservatives after their thumping by a combination of labour and the liberal democrats and reform. but should we just sort of reminisce about election night itself? and ijust wonder, how do you both feel now that actually you've been able to... i don't know if you've slept on it, but rather than just, like, living in the moment and like feasting on all the results as they come in, now that you've actually been able to sort of sit back and look at the big picture. it is a huge, huge change for the country. i mean, elections, apart from pandemics, are probably the biggest news stories that any of us ever cover. and it is an incredibly significant change of direction for the country. obviously, in the campaign, there was a lot of discussion about whether labour and the tories actually were really close to each other on some big issues. did they accept the same sort of economic terrain? and there is some merit in that argument. however, the thing i think is always underestimated at moments like this is how much the personalities, the principles, the hinterlands, the instincts and the reflexes of the individuals

involved are. and the changing of the guard that we witnessed, that we saw yesterday in downing street, that we saw all those counts around the around the country as they came over on thursday, is a genuinely enormous moment for the country. and governments, whatever they write down in their manifestos, very often end up being defined by events, and the reflex and response to events is about who people are and their whole kind of credo and belief system — not what they wrote down in their manifesto. so, how will keir starmer respond in the years to come to events that we don't yet know? paddy? weu. — a bad time for incumbents. the snp spanked in holyrood. the conservatives, after 14 years, spanked at westminster, effectively asking me as a voter to give them 19 years, a bad time forjoe biden, a bad time for president macron.

what constituency was he standing in? i know what you mean. well, he's standing in the constituency called incumbency. we've undergone a massive political change. i don't mean that. there was a bad, smelly tone to our national conversation which needs to improve media, have a role to play in that. radio 4 could have a great role to play in that as well. trying to bring educated debate, not tittle tattle and rubbish, but i think we should be humbled. the public have spoken and 40% of them couldn't be bothered. and i could tell you feel passionate because you just whacked the arm of the armchair! the two things i'm thinking that i maybe got a bit wrong on the night itself were initially maybe exaggerating the impact of reform because the exit poll had them on 13 seats potentially.

they ended up with, well, first of all, four, and then they got a fifth one right at the end of the counting process yesterday. and because they were coming very strong second in lots of the seats as they came in, iwas thinking, "0h, there's a massive reform wave." actually, historically ukip came second in lots of seats in in the past as well. so i was wondering maybe did i exaggerate it too much about reform. and we can discuss actually reforms influence in a bit. and the second thing is when the exit poll came in with the tories on three figures rather than two, ifound myself going, "oh, that's not so bad for them," which disguised the fact that historically it was very bad for them. it wasn't as bad as some of the polls had suggested. well, that's why, boringly, probably every single weekend in almost every time i opened my mouth in the last six weeks, in the last six months, i've said, don't believe the polls. the polls are important and they're significant, but they're an indication, not an accurate guide. some of the mrp polling was crazy. i'm not criticising that way of polling. but as we were saying

clearly on newscast, which if you just turned your radio on, you're listening to newscast, you haven't gone completely loopy. the crazier end of the mrp polling was really quite crazy. their methodology was clear. it's how they do that. but the point is, as we kept trying to say is the range of outcomes was enormous. so somebody was always going to be wrong when it came to the polling, because the predictions of the scale of the labour majority went from, you know, 200 and something completely crackers all the way down to something much more, you know, realistic. like, even down at sort of 60, 70, depending on what happened in different seats. but actually, i think it's pretty much where i expected it to end up by the time we got to thursday morning. do you think on reform, though, i've gone from overestimating them to now underestimating them? no. i think their impact on the conservatives was absolutely devastating. i think there's no doubt about that. and i think labour, although they are absolutely cockahoop, and justifiably so, but i think smarter people in the labour party will look at some of the places like where in leicester, wherejonathan

ashworth, very prominent and important member of keir starmer�*s team, lost his seat to somebody campaigning, a pro—palestinian candidate. that was a complete shock. it almost happened to wes streeting in his east london constituency. it almost happened to jess phillips in birmingham. and these little pockets of insurgents — and they're sort of under the radar — but that's a very serious thing that smarter labour people will be thinking, "ok, that's something we've got to watch." you are taking us to labour. i've heard some themes that i hope we do discuss, especially as we've promised to discuss them. but given that you've mentioned labour, given that you've told us, and i know laura, you've got a scoop to tell us about what's going on in downing street, given that you, adam, have started by saying there's a cabinet meeting today, let'sjust reboot by hearing from the new prime minister. but whether you voted| labour or not — in fact, especially if you did not — i say to you directly, _ my government will serve you.

politics can be a force for good. we will show that. we've changed the labour party, returned it- to service and that is how we will govern country first, party second. funny hearing that again. sort of like 20 hours later and just realising the massive contradictions there. "so massive labour landslide." 0h, keir starmer, realised loads of you actually didn't vote for us and we're going to change things massively, but it's going to take ages so we'lljust get started and then you just think, well hang on, are those two contradictions, the things that might kind of dominate the next five years? well, that's a challenge for politicians, isn't it, to give a nuanced message, but also actually talking to a senior conservative this morning, that's the point

of politicians who are broadly in the mainstream. and what they would say is that is what separates them from people at the populist end of things who say, here's a big, simple solution everybody vote for me. flick the... switch. flick the switch. and that is actually that's the difficulty, actually, of moderation in a sense. but he even used that word yesterday. he talked about moderate. he talked about being kind of mainstream. and i think both he and rishi sunak actually in his speech, they both kind of made a nod to all that incredible churn that is going on in the world right now. and whether that's as a conservative rishi sunak thinking, "0h, reform," or whether that's the labour politician thinking, "0h, look at these other kind of forces out there." so he is setting that stage there saying, look, i'm going to hold fast to the middle. he's not going to be pushed around by people on the left who say, look at the majority. you should have been more radical. you've missed this big opportunity for keir starmer�*s team, this is an absolute vindication of the argument they made all the way through is that you win from the middle. you show a responsibility with money. rachel reeves is going to keep a tight grip on the chequebook. because that's how they did win, whether it was with a surge

of enthusiasm... i don't think in 2024, any politician who's even vaguely in the middle of this expecting a surge of enthusiasm from anywhere. i think they need a series of quick wins. ithink... i've had enough of this import from the us — 100 days — like i've had enough of the import supermajority. here's a time frame i want to test out with you two. there's untested on radio 4 so far. it's 30 days. or your money back. please don't. let's ever give that that promise that a snap election. well, actually. you've summed it up very well, because in 30 days in august, so big is the work to do. they're all going to go on holiday. so it's so big. we've got to change the country. we must go on holiday. well, they're going to shorten the holiday i think. well, i'm going to say that they've got 30 days, they've got july to bring about some quick wins, and i sniff a few. i've seen some goats,

i've seen nick eardley on the news. clarify what you mean by goats. government of all the talent, from gordon brown. so not actually goats. so you're talking about sir patrick vallance, who's actually going to be lord high commander. professor, i want my money back. sir patrick vallance, who of course, became known to the public as the chief scientist during the covid inquiry. no, god, not during the covid inquiry — during the... imean... he was in that two all these big acts that we've had over the last few years. so he is becoming a government minister and he is going to go

and work in the dsit, which is a terrible whitehall acronym. but the department for science, that's a star higher. i think it would be fair to say james timpson, also, who's a really interesting man and employer and somebody who has made a lot of, i suppose, changed a lot of lives by employing lots of people when they leave prison. he is becoming a minister as well, and also somebody with conservative tendencies previously. so that's interesting. well, his brother was a tory minister. his brother was a tory minister indeed. also another one that's not out there yet, but i'm told that alan milburn, former health secretary, is going to become an enforcer at the department of health, which is an interesting one. so tackling waiting lists. so they are looking with these little nuggets, as you say, to show soon, as quickly as they can that they can get things done. wes streeting has already been on the phone to the bma to try to sort out the junior doctors strike. i mean, that would be a big win. i think it's also ambitious to to imagine are suddenly as this very strongly motivated organisation of young and some

quite radical doctors. are they going to suddenly say, "yes, we will do a deal with you?" who knows? that is a big one. can i make three observations? often with these goats, who are brought in from outside, especially in the brown era, it sort of didn't really work out. these people who were high flyers in their fields, whether it was defence or health, didn't really gel with the civil service and the political machine and they found it quite hard. patrick vallance is different because he's been right in the the the bunker in the crisis. and look at the vaccine programme. exactly. he knows how to pull levers and push buttons and chair meetings. so he is sort of more natural fit for that, although i'm quite surprised because i thought maybe he was going to be brought in as more of a tsar because, you know, labour's got this whole mission approach to government, with five big missions. it sounds like a eurovision. it sounds like a catherine the great tv miniseries. can you... was there a third observation? that was actually my first observation, but there was too many observations. anyway, so the second observation is aboutjames thompson. i was just watching an interview that krishnan guru—murthy did with him on channel 4 news a few months ago, and james thimpson is of the view that a third of the people who are in prison

should not be there, and a further third of them should actually be maybe having more support and rehabilitation and help rather than being in prison 21w. can i interrupt your second? please do. because then it gives me time to remember my third point. but the main the daddy timpson is a long time guest on broadcasting house john, and they've long employed prisoners. and here's the thing about prisons, which are so full, we're going to release people early. that's what's happening right now, that many of the people in there, maybe 40%, are re—offenders. so one way to cut the prison population is to stop re—offending. one way to stop re—offending is to give prisoners a job. hold your nose and give prisoners a job. and the timpson family have been doing that. they've also been giving clean suits to people who are unemployed, and it's a sort of old fashioned "conservative" philanthropy imported by the new labour man who is flexing the prime minister's office. and i've always thought that was something rishi sunak was learning to do at the end by importing david cameron. keir starmer has been preparing, as we're going to hear from laura, for months for this moment — and i know you've got some reallyjuicy detail, but i've interrupted your third observation. it was about alan milburn.

so, on thursday night, election night for newscasts, we hosted this big watch party in the radio theatre with lots of newscast. fans came and watched the results, and we also had lots of guests coming off your programme, laura, and the radio programme that nick and rachel burden were doing to come and have a sort of fireside chat and a slightly more chilled environment with us. and it was interesting. most of the labour people referenced alan milburn as a person from the old days who got things done, knew how to run a government, and you were saying when we were chatting beforehand that actually he's been sort of advising them and now he's actually going to come back. but i do just wonder, he was a polarising figure in the blair era. the left. sure. exactly. because he was like private sector, public sector. "i don't care who delivers your eye test, bring it on." and he said hard truths to the medical profession. so i'm just thinking if wes streeting his first call. as to the bma and they're all becoming quite like firebrand, radically the ship of the bma. but then his second call is to alan milburn. that's another contradiction there to add

to the list of contradictions. but i think that what labour people would push back at you and say, it's not a contradiction. i think they would say that is reality. oh, yeah, totally. politics is about getting things done where you have to have people on different sides. and the point is that maybe everybody has to lose a little bit of the thing that they hold dear as a conviction, but that's not real life. and i think keir starmer has always been asked again and again and again since the first time he ran for the leadership... and i remember doing this myself and sort of being a bit stumped when what he said was what he stood for was moral socialism. you what? i mean, it sounded like a something that had been created for a guardian headline, and it was indeed, i think, a guardian headline. now, he years later, still hasn't — for some people in the labour party, even some experienced — a former adviser is saying to me last night i still don't really know what he believes in, but i think actually with keir starmer, to look for an ideology is to miss the point. this is what people say flatteringly about him.

they say he's a doer, he's a doer, not a thinker. but that still leaves for some kind of political superfans. but where's his ideology? give me something to believe in. his counter would be, "well, i've got a huge majority, and i want to get things done, and i want to change the country." and that is much more important than making somebody feel good because they read a pamphlet that tickled their belly. can we just do a new chapter heading? yeah. so news that we've going to be told now that we haven't heard before. some of it are scoop from laura kuenssberg. so what is labour doing now? they've been working with very recently tory cabinet ministers to pave the way for transition. yes. it's one of the things that's been part of their preparation there have been at least a couple of tory ministers involved, which is interesting. 0r former tory ministers. they have also had an incredibly extensive period of preparation with each other under the leadership of sue gray, who becomes keir starmer�*s chief of staff, but also with whitehall. and i'm told that sue gray really has been speaking to senior mandarins, as they're sometimes

called in whitehall, on an almost daily basis since january. since january? since january. but obviously this has accelerated over time, in the last few weeks, shadow ministers have been introduced and have been speaking to their permanent secretaries. those are the most senior civil servants in each department. and essentially what has happened is this work has built up and up and up and up and up and up. so, in whitehall, officials have been sitting not just with the labour manifesto, but with their mission plans and their documents, and they've been sitting and discussing and workshopping. i was told some of how they might make these things happen, and there is no doubt that the polling situation has meant that these preparations are more extensive than they might have been in another set of circumstances. and it's so interesting that this is sort of almost a thing itself. the transition, the preparation — it has been also a huge job of work going on quite separately. in fact, even in an office around the corner, not in labour hq - in a different office, an overspill office, that's where sue gray and her team

have been doing preparation. and in most of the shadow teams, certainly the bigger ones, the bigger departments, there's been one or two of the team who've been doing the prep and other people have been doing the campaign, so it has been meticulously planned. but the interesting thing about all of it is they are first... you know, i think we've just seen actually the first picture of the new cabinet sitting around the table has just emerged as we were talking to you at 11:20 on saturday morning. the interesting thing is that somebody, a very senior person in whitehall, said to me, "the thing is, i think they are ready. i think they're probably as ready as you can be, but actually nothing can completely prepare you." and there were two particular moments they referenced. there's one moment where they come in, they're exhausted, they're elated, and then you say, ok, prime minister, but now we need to talk to you about the end of the world. yeah. and the nuclear codes and all of those things. but there's one other thing that

just is just interesting to see that and someone who had seen lots of prime ministers come and go said to me that they, they also worry about is that moment when they're literally about to go in and see the monarch — they're kind of, "what do i do?" and actually, whether it was liz truss, theresa may, david cameron or other people who as leader of the opposition or ministers or someone like keir starmer, plainly they will have met the monarch as you do on previous occasions. but that moment where they ring the bell or whatever they do and they're standing outside the room about to be taken in for that moment where they are invited to become the prime minister. apparently the routine is, they tend to ask, really detailed... "well, what do i do? where do i stand? and exactly what do i do?" because all the preparation in the world, that's not going to make you ready for that. although i was going to say, one of the innovations in our constitution is actually there is video of starmer meeting king charles yesterday for their audience, which we never used to have. ok, then the cameras turned off and you don't see the kissing of the hand moment.

i mean, actually, keir starmer is king charles ii's third prime minister, which is a tip, a hat tip to the churn, the conservative churn and the system used to work that you did in opposition. prepare for your brief and younger listeners will be used to conservative people handing over to conservative people in a crisis without time to to do this transfer. so and you'd get a new minister in the case of housing 16 of them in 14 years. and it wasn't as if they had one second preparation. so actually, a lot of civil servants, journalists and voters will think it's actually quite a good idea for the opposition to learn how to get in charge of their brief talk to the civil service, in case the public are vicious enough to ask for a change of power, instead ofjust letting conservatives pass the hat round. well, let's talk about the tories. but before we do, ijust have to tell you one of the more unusual forms of preparation that has gone on in the treasury. did you know, adam, that in the treasury there has for many years been, shall we say, a gentleman's bathroom for the chancellor — a private bathroom that includes something that a female chancellor or females

in general wouldn't actually want to use — a urinal. right. and during the preparations for government, expecting that rachel reeves was very likely to be the first female chancellor, there was a debate in the treasury over what to do about said urinal. i'm told, however, it's been boxed in. so not to offend rachel reeves as she arrives and gets down to work. so there'sjust, like, a big a random wooden box there? instead of...? well, the thing is, they haven't removed it to be fair. there'll probably be another man along any minute now, so you wouldn't want to do. it's a metaphor, isn't it, because chancellors are often boxed in. oh, the thing is also also talking about.

ceramic things in the treasury. there's also a newscast mug in her kitchen around the corner from her office that was smuggled in a few years. but it would be. it would be a sign to just take it out. how about that? well, exactly. well, on a serious point about the trip, i was really struck by rachel reeves statement that she gave to treasury officials yesterday. two things. 0ne, saying we need to talk about. and it's usually women in underappreciated areas of the economy. they need to be brought into policymaking and also the treasury, she said. this building has got to be about growth, because actually, up until now, the treasury, of course, they care about economic growth, but delivering growth has been in other departments. we don't have growth of this programme. we hardly have any time left. it's 11:25. let's do six hours to newscasts. we have to talk about what happened to the tories, their terrible defeat. this is what rishi sunak said yesterday morning to the country. i would like to say, first and foremost, i am sorry i have given this . job my all, but you have sent ia clear signal that the government. of the united kingdom must change, and yours is the only. judgment that matters. there are no conservative mps in 0xfordshire since the birth of electricity.

now, it hasn't happened since the great reform act. the change in the country has been massive and one of the biggest changes is i very rarely heard someone say i am sorry in that way from downing street. wasn't it interesting? so some people think actually that was the best communication and the most human that they've ever seen. because the others didn't have their claws on him because he was completely owned during the campaign by people, probably from australia. that's where they get them from, isn't it? tell them what to do. well, one of them was. yeah. well, i mean, the thing is it's he's learnt a lesson. it's completely opposite of borisjohnson telling everyone, you know, the herd moves. we almost got to the end of this programme without you doing an impression. i was going to leave terribly sad but. it was a very graceful speech, as wasjeremy hunt's and actually, as was keir starmer was also very gracious about rishi sunak. so perhaps we are opening a more gracious period of politics. perhaps. let's see how long that lasts, however. so there is now a question. we don't know how long the tory leadership race is going to be. they haven't got a new, all—powerful1922 committee, which is a committee of mps that sets out the rules. there is, however, a very long list of people who fancy a tilt at it.

so it will probably be a bit like the grand national. we mightjust possibly hear from some of them on my programme tomorrow morning. oh, really? just possibly. i'll just put that out there. i hope you do better than i did because i had, excuse me, two of them in my microphone zone on thursday night. dame priti patel and james cleverly at the same district council, braintree with two parliamentary constituencies. and they did not want to address succession. no. and i think the timing will be interesting. somebody involved in all of this said to me this morning, if rishi sunak says he's only going to stay for a couple of weeks, there'll be a certain kind of frantic race. there is quite a push from senior people to actually see if they can get him to stay up, perhaps up until party conference, so they can take a breath and sort of have a proper think rather than descend into sort of blood—letting straightaway. and we should as we close those just say this was also a fantastic night for the smaller parties. so we're looking at the biggest

share in history for the parties that weren't the red team or the blue team, whether that's the lib dem's success — although the snp did obviously have a disaster, but the greens did well. plaid cymru obviously are in there as well. you know, this was a really interesting election for all sorts of reasons. huge labour victory. but underneath that there was, you know, a really strong pattern of a sort of political rainbow in terms of where voters went. and the greens targeted four seats and were very explicit about that, and they won four seats. so it looks like maybe that party has learned how to make the electoral system work to its advantage. and the electoral system for the first time actually has sent nigel farage to parliament. he'll be there with his other small group of reform mps. but obviously we know even when he hasn't had a political perch, he's still somebody who tries to have a big voice. but it will be fascinating to see how and if he does really use it in parliament — we just don't know how that's going to play out. we willjoin each other again tomorrow morning when you'll be on the radio, i'll be on the television and then we'll be on the weekend sunday newscast later in the day. but i think that's plenty from us for now. but if you'd like to get in touch, our emailaddress is newscast@bbc.co.uk,

and we'll be back for one more live helping next weekend. bye. goodbye. newscast from the bbc. hello, there. conditions did improve somewhat through this afternoon with increasing amounts of sunshine, particularly across southern and eastern areas, but as we head into party with the weekend it is going to be a similar story, starting off on sunny spells and then showers will develop. some of them could be heavy and thundery through the afternoon. it's all courtesy of this area of low pressure, which has brought wet and windy weather to southern and eastern areas. that's continuing to push off into the north sea as we head through this evening and overnight. many of the showers fade away tonight, clearerskies. but showers will return across southern and western areas during the early hours. so, where we have clear skies, temperatures in single digits. where we have more cloud, more breeze across the south with the showers, then we're looking at 10—12 c. so sunday starts off bright — brighter than what we had on saturday morning. some sunshine before showers get going late onwards, and into the afternoon these will tend to become widespread — form bands as well. and some of them could be heavy and thundery. but a few areas could escape them altogether and stay dry. wind's a bit lighter, too,

so it should feel a touch warmer, but still disappointing temperatures for this time of year. mid to high teens. so sunday, then, expect a heavy shower to move through the wimbledon area. monday, this is a bit pessimistic. it will start dry with plenty of sunshine before cloud thickens up later in the day with some patchy rain. so, as we had three sunday night, most of the showers fade away, with a slightly cooler air mass in place, light winds, clear skies. it's going to turn quite chilly with temperatures widespread into single digits. even in towns and cities. out of towns, we're looking at low single figures, so a chilly start to monday. however, it will be chilly but bright. widespread sunshine around, light winds. through the day, showers will develop across central and northern areas, and then towards the end of the day this new area of low pressure will push in to the south to bring thicker cloud and outbreaks of rain. so a pretty decent day, i think, before this low starts to move up from the south. we could see temperatures touching 20 degrees. that area of low pressure continues to move north across the uk during tuesday and wednesday.

towards the end of the week, though, we've got high pressure toppling in from the west. that should settle things down. and i think as we head into next weekend and the following week, it looks like it should be dry with quite a bit of sunshine around. but the run—up to next weekend looks like it will stay unsettled thanks to low pressure. pretty disappointing temperatures forjuly. take care. live from downing street, this is bbc news. england fans go wild as gareth southgate's men beat switzerland on penalities to make it through to the last four of the euros in germany.

keir starmer says he will have to make tough decisions and "make them early" in his first full day as prime minister. it's a mandate notjust to govern, although it is certainly that, but it's a mandate that has put trust in us to change the country and to deliver. at his first cabinet meeting, sir keir tells his team they have "a huge amount of work to do". i'm martine croxall. the other main stories this hour: the gaza health ministry says at least 16 people have been killed in an israeli air strike on a school in nuseirat. iranians react to the election of masoud pezeshkian as president. the reformist candidate's win brings hope to some women and younger voters.

good evening from downing street, where the england