everything has changed. we are a chanced everything has changed. we are a changed labour _ everything has changed. we are a changed labour party _ everything has changed. we are a changed labour party and - everything has changed. we are a i changed labour party and yesterday we... labour's andy burnham willjoin us. to the country i would like to say first and foremost i am sorry. he miaht first and foremost i am sorry. he might be sorry but what and who is next for rishi sunak�*s

conservatives? robert generic and victoria atkins are here. more of you voted for the other parties than ever before. one of the victors, ed davey, leader of the liberal democrats, joins us this morning. conservative lord michael howard. morning, morning. let's start by looking at the papers. the observer as the new prime

minister on the front page saying, it is time to deliver. the conservative rule and the scheme is dead and buried. the sunday times said the government needs a plan for emigration. the suella braverman tells the telegraph the tories deserved to lose. on the other big contest, the football. england reach the euro semis, beating switzerland last night. asa as a historian, something like this is real history, it happened so real rarely, real change? it is is real history, it happened so real rarely, real change?— rarely, real change? it is true, landslides— rarely, real change? it is true, landslides however _ rarely, real change? it is true, landslides however much - rarely, real change? it is true, l landslides however much people rarely, real change? it is true, - landslides however much people are saying immediately, a loveless landslide, was one phrase. not really a landslide, a pseudo— landslide. nevertheless, it is a reboot of democracy, which is a very

healthy thing. many landslides in the past, this is not including tony blair or margaret thatcher, modern history for us, 1832... laughter. let me write that one down. governments come in with colossal sky—high expectations in that particular government was eaten away in not so many years. the other one, 1900, michael doesn't remember that. massive majority and then lost it. the most famous of all was 1906, huge liberal landslide, huge. four years later, 1910, something like more than a 200 majority was down to almost nothing. but this is different. this is shrewdly presented by the prime minister, by keir starmer by there are these big

problems, the other lot have caused them. but don't expect miracles. it is not an ecstatic... them. but don't expect miracles. it is not an ecstatic. . ._ is not an ecstatic... michael, you will not is not an ecstatic... michael, you will got absolutely _ is not an ecstatic... michael, you will got absolutely hammered, . is not an ecstatic... michael, you - will got absolutely hammered, why? all sorts of reasons, people are taking _ all sorts of reasons, people are taking it — all sorts of reasons, people are taking it out on the governments, macron's— taking it out on the governments, macron's party has gone to third place. _ macron's party has gone to third place. the — macron's party has gone to third place, the ruling social democrats in germany have gone to third place. we have _ in germany have gone to third place. we have a _ in germany have gone to third place. we have a new government in the netherlands which kicked out its former— netherlands which kicked out its former prime minister. all over the world, _ former prime minister. all over the world, people are punishing governments because they are not as well-off— governments because they are not as well-off as_ governments because they are not as well—off as they would like to be, because — well—off as they would like to be, because of— well—off as they would like to be, because of covid, inflation and the war and _ because of covid, inflation and the war and all— because of covid, inflation and the war and all of those things. it is a natural_ war and all of those things. it is a natural tendency to blame governments. the last government did exacerbate _ governments. the last government did exacerbate that trend somewhat by some _ exacerbate that trend somewhat by some of— exacerbate that trend somewhat by some of the that it did. i freely concede — some of the that it did. i freely concede. but let me just say, i do wish _ concede. but let me just say, i do wish the _ concede. but let me just say, i do wish the new government well, i hope

they succeed, as rishi sunak said, their— they succeed, as rishi sunak said, their successors will be our successes. everyone wants a successful country. i hope that happens — successful country. i hope that happens. it successful country. i hope that ha ens. , , happens. it is interesting, there has been a _ happens. it is interesting, there has been a lot _ happens. it is interesting, there has been a lot of— happens. it is interesting, there has been a lot of gracious - has been a lot of gracious concession, rishi sunak and jeremy hunt were quite flattering by the new prime minister but there are urgent problems, one of them might be worried about, there is a risk of jobs at the port talbot steel plant in wales. your union had planned to strike but he delayed that, you called it off because of the election, so what is the issue because we are about to talk to the business secretary, jonathan reynolds. i business secretary, jonathan reynolds-_ business secretary, jonathan re nolds. ., ., ., reynolds. i congratulate labour and caettin on reynolds. i congratulate labour and getting on but _ reynolds. i congratulate labour and getting on but they _ reynolds. i congratulate labour and getting on but they won't _ reynolds. i congratulate labour and getting on but they won't be - reynolds. i congratulate labour and getting on but they won't be a - getting on but they won't be a honeymoon _ getting on but they won't be a honeymoon period _ getting on but they won't be a honeymoon period because i getting on but they won't be a i honeymoon period because there getting on but they won't be a - honeymoon period because there are things— honeymoon period because there are things that _ honeymoon period because there are things that need _ honeymoon period because there are things that need to _ honeymoon period because there are things that need to be _ honeymoon period because there are things that need to be dealt- honeymoon period because there are things that need to be dealt with - things that need to be dealt with and steel— things that need to be dealt with and steel is— things that need to be dealt with and steel is a _ things that need to be dealt with and steel is a symbol— things that need to be dealt with and steel is a symbol of- things that need to be dealt with and steel is a symbol of things . and steel is a symbol of things wrong — and steel is a symbol of things wrong in — and steel is a symbol of things wrong in our— and steel is a symbol of things wrong in our country. - and steel is a symbol of things wrong in our country. we - and steel is a symbol of things wrong in our country. we are i and steel is a symbol of things - wrong in our country. we are about to have _ wrong in our country. we are about to have a _ wrong in our country. we are about to have a situation _ wrong in our country. we are about to have a situation where _ wrong in our country. we are about to have a situation where 2800 - wrong in our country. we are about i to have a situation where 2800 steel workers _ to have a situation where 2800 steel workers could — to have a situation where 2800 steel workers could lose _ to have a situation where 2800 steel workers could lose their— to have a situation where 2800 steel workers could lose theirjobs - to have a situation where 2800 steel workers could lose theirjobs in- to have a situation where 2800 steel workers could lose theirjobs in a - workers could lose theirjobs in a ntatter— workers could lose theirjobs in a matter of— workers could lose theirjobs in a matter of days _ workers could lose theirjobs in a matter of days. as _ workers could lose theirjobs in a matter of days. as soon - workers could lose theirjobs in a matter of days. as soon as - workers could lose theirjobs in a matter of days. as soon as theyl workers could lose theirjobs in a i matter of days. as soon as they put

forward _ matter of days. as soon as they put forward those — matter of days. as soon as they put forward those redundancy— matter of days. as soon as they put forward those redundancy notices. i forward those redundancy notices. the steel— forward those redundancy notices. the steel industry— forward those redundancy notices. the steel industry in _ forward those redundancy notices. the steel industry in britain- forward those redundancy notices. the steel industry in britain has. the steel industry in britain has been _ the steel industry in britain has been decimated. _ the steel industry in britain has been decimated. we _ the steel industry in britain has been decimated. we produce . the steel industry in britain has. been decimated. we produce less steel— been decimated. we produce less steel in— been decimated. we produce less steel in britain— been decimated. we produce less steel in britain than _ been decimated. we produce less steel in britain than one - been decimated. we produce less steel in britain than one single . steel in britain than one single site in— steel in britain than one single site in germany. _ steel in britain than one single site in germany. yes, - steel in britain than one single site in germany. yes, even - steel in britain than one single - site in germany. yes, even though we are very— site in germany. yes, even though we are very high — site in germany. yes, even though we are very high consumers. _ site in germany. yes, even though we are very high consumers. i— site in germany. yes, even though we are very high consumers. i am - site in germany. yes, even though we are very high consumers. i am askingl are very high consumers. i am asking for investment — are very high consumers. i am asking for investment in— are very high consumers. i am asking for investment in steel— are very high consumers. i am asking for investment in steel with - are very high consumers. i am asking for investment in steel withjob - for investment in steel withjob guarantees _ for investment in steel withjob guarantees. the _ for investment in steel withjob guarantees. the other- for investment in steel withjob guarantees. the other one - for investment in steel withjob guarantees. the other one is. for investment in steel withjobl guarantees. the other one is on procurement _ guarantees. the other one is on procurement legislation - guarantees. the other one is on procurement legislation that. guarantees. the other one is on procurement legislation that all| guarantees. the other one is on. procurement legislation that all uk infrastructure _ procurement legislation that all uk infrastructure projects _ procurement legislation that all uk infrastructure projects should - procurement legislation that all uk infrastructure projects should use i procurement legislation that all uk| infrastructure projects should use a uk steet~ _ infrastructure projects should use a uk steet~ we — infrastructure projects should use a uk steel. we need _ infrastructure projects should use a uk steel. we need to— infrastructure projects should use a uk steel. we need to back- infrastructure projects should use a uk steel. we need to back british. uk steel. we need to back british steel. _ uk steel. we need to back british steel. we — uk steel. we need to back british steel. we need _ uk steel. we need to back british steel, we need to _ uk steel. we need to back british steel, we need to back— uk steel. we need to back british steel, we need to back british - steel, we need to back british business. _ steel, we need to back british business, investment- steel, we need to back british business, investment is- steel, we need to back british business, investment is goingj steel, we need to back british . business, investment is going to steel, we need to back british - business, investment is going to be key and _ business, investment is going to be key and we — business, investment is going to be key and we need _ business, investment is going to be key and we need to _ business, investment is going to be key and we need to find _ business, investment is going to be key and we need to find the - business, investment is going to be key and we need to find the moneyl key and we need to find the money for that _ key and we need to find the money for that. �* , , , for that. let's see if this new government _ for that. let's see if this new government will _ for that. let's see if this new government will find - for that. let's see if this new government will find the - for that. let's see if this new i government will find the money for that. let's see if this new - government will find the money as you are after. the transfer of power, when it comes in this country, is shockingly quick. in less than 2a hours one pm is out, and the other�*s moved in. this is how it started, on thursday night, on the stroke of ten. big ben tolls. as big ben strikes ten, the exit poll is predicting a labour landslide. blimey, just take a look. bridget phillipson has been duly elected... rachel reeves is duly elected... dan lawrence is duly elected...

labour gains. jonathan ashworth has lost his seat. we did it! cheering and applause. here come the outriders, they'll flank him everywhere he goes. i have just returned from buckingham palace where i accepted an invitation from his majesty the king, to form the next government... the first ever female chancellor of the exchequer. for every young woman... absolutely fantastic to welcome you to the cabinet, our first meeting. applause. have you unpacked yet? no, we've not unpacked quite yet. in they went. we will mark this moment of history. he was sitting round that cabinet table yesterday

and yourfamily round that cabinet table yesterday and your family where round that cabinet table yesterday and yourfamily where in downing street, we spotted them in the pictures and we spotted them when keir starmer walked in. pictures and we spotted them when keir starmerwalked in. in one regard, some people thinking it is an election the conservatives lost rather than an election that labour won, do you think it is part of it? no i don't, labour has a clear mandate to govern. the first party in a generation to win a majority of seats in england, wales and scotland. keir starmer was right in those words outside downing street saying this is a government that will work for everyone. public service at the core of it and we will listen, respect and work for people who didn't support those as well. that is the kind of constructive approach, public service based approach people want to see. �* , service based approach people want to see. 3 . ~ service based approach people want to see. �*, ., ,, ., service based approach people want tosee. �*, ., «as to see. let's talk about something at the to - to see. let's talk about something at the too of _ to see. let's talk about something at the top of your _ to see. let's talk about something at the top of your list _ to see. let's talk about something at the top of your list at _ to see. let's talk about something at the top of your list at the - at the top of your list at the moment. we have from sharon graham 3000 jobs at risk the tata steel plant in port talbot. will the

government step in and write a check to underwrite it so those jobs don't disappear? taste to underwrite it so those 'obs don't disa ear? ~ , , .,, to underwrite it so those 'obs don't disauear? ~ , , ., ., ., disappear? we see this as a ma'or riori , i disappear? we see this as a ma'or priority. i have i disappear? we see this as a ma'or priority, i have spoken i disappear? we see this as a ma'or priority, i have spoken to i disappear? we see this as a ma'or priority, i have spoken to tata h priority, i have spoken to tata about it and as has the new prime minister. i will be talking to them again today, asking representatives of the workforce and the unions to talk to me about that. it is not about underwriting loss—making businesses in perhaps a way we would have afforded industrial policy in the past. it is about being a partner for investment in the future. there is money available for the steel industry but we need to meet this transition with the private sector together and we have to make sure that decarbonisation is not deindustrialisation. we have to do that together but there is a better deal available for port talbot on the steel industry as a whole, i am sure of that. the old blast furnaces, _ whole, i am sure of that. the old blast furnaces, the _ whole, i am sure of that. the old blast furnaces, the company - whole, i am sure of that. the old| blast furnaces, the company want whole, i am sure of that. the old . blast furnaces, the company want to close them but there is a gap before a newer and greenerfurnace can be

built and that would employ fewer people. you say money will be available, how much are you willing to spend in order to guarantee those jobs? are you guaranteeing those jobs? are you guaranteeing those jobs this morning? the jobs? are you guaranteeing those jobs this morning?— jobs? are you guaranteeing those jobs this morning? the money we have available to spend _ jobs this morning? the money we have available to spend is _ jobs this morning? the money we have available to spend is in _ jobs this morning? the money we have available to spend is in our _ available to spend is in our manifesto so it is in the public domain. �* ., . you will domain. but how much here? you will understand i— domain. but how much here? you will understand i am _ domain. but how much here? you will understand i am now _ domain. but how much here? you will understand i am now involved - domain. but how much here? you will understand i am now involved in - domain. but how much here? you will understand i am now involved in a - understand i am now involved in a negotiation and i will not reveal my hand. people will understand why thatis hand. people will understand why that is the case. i do want things in exchange for money invested in the private sector around jobs in technology and it is a reasonable way to make sure public money is well spent. there are things, capacities the uk and steel industry needin capacities the uk and steel industry need in the future and that conversation i will be having in the next few days. idistill conversation i will be having in the next few days— next few days. will you guarantee those 'obs next few days. will you guarantee these jobs as _ next few days. will you guarantee those jobs as sharon _ next few days. will you guarantee those jobs as sharon graham - next few days. will you guarantee those jobs as sharon graham has| those jobs as sharon graham has asked you to do? i those jobs as sharon graham has asked you to do?— those jobs as sharon graham has asked you to do? i am going to make sure that job — asked you to do? i am going to make sure that job guarantees _ asked you to do? i am going to make sure that job guarantees a _ asked you to do? i am going to make sure that job guarantees a part - asked you to do? i am going to make sure that job guarantees a part of - sure thatjob guarantees a part of the negotiations. if sure that job guarantees a part of the negotiations.— the negotiations. if tata will receive money _

the negotiations. if tata will receive money from - the negotiations. if tata will receive money from the - the negotiations. if tata will. receive money from the british taxpayer, in return they have to guarantee the jobs? taxpayer, in return they have to guarantee thejobs? i taxpayer, in return they have to guarantee the jobs?— taxpayer, in return they have to guarantee the jobs? guarantee the “obs? i am not going to ut a guarantee the jobs? i am not going to put a particular _ guarantee the jobs? i am not going to put a particular figure _ guarantee the jobs? i am not going to put a particular figure on - guarantee the jobs? i am not going to put a particular figure on it. - guarantee the jobs? i am not going to put a particular figure on it. it i to put a particular figure on it. it sounds like you are hinting at that but will not put a figure on it. blast furnaces will employ fewer people, there is a range of things you have to understand but i agree with the point we have to make sure this is a transition that works for working people and they are part of that but you cannot give money out without guarantees in exchange for that. but there is a negotiation i have to keep that information to myself. have to keep that information to m self. ., , have to keep that information to m self. ., a , ., have to keep that information to m self. ., , ., ~' myself. how quickly do you think you can resolve — myself. how quickly do you think you can resolve this? _ myself. how quickly do you think you can resolve this? sharon _ myself. how quickly do you think you can resolve this? sharon said - myself. how quickly do you think you can resolve this? sharon said there l can resolve this? sharon said there arejobs at stake can resolve this? sharon said there are jobs at stake in the next few days and you and your colleagues have just spent six weeks going round the country think we are ready, we are prepared to hit the ground running, this is a decision you knew was coming, can you tell us when you are going to sort it out? the clock is ticking very loudly. not only have we been running the campaign, we have been preparing for government at the same time,

including playing an active role in making sure the outcome none of us wanted in port talbot occurred. this is a priority, the timescale is not a large one, i have asked colleagues across every part of this negotiation for time to do that. i do need a few weeks to get it ready, but we have started straightaway from stopthe a few weeks before it is resolved? we have started discussions right away, there are some discussions with the company on due diligence, but there is a way we can demonstrate we can make this transition i worked for the uk, the workforce on the company and it is about economic strength and a positive story am not a —1. he positive story am not a -1. he promised _ positive story am not a -1. he promised a — positive story am not a —1. he promised a big expansion of rights for workers, and that will be under your department although angela rayner has a leadership role and she has talked about that a lot. when will those new rights for workers come into force? taste will those new rights for workers come into force?— will those new rights for workers come into force? we will start the rocess come into force? we will start the process straightaway, _ come into force? we will start the process straightaway, as - come into force? we will start the process straightaway, as we - come into force? we will start the process straightaway, as we were | process straightaway, as we were committed to doing. as any piece of

employment legislation, you have a consultation period. i am told new cabinet ministers are not supposed to pre—empt the kings speech, but this will play a role because of the commitment we have made. but this is an important part of an overall economic programme to make sure it is growing the economy will strongly and benefiting people in every part of the uk. ., , , of the uk. how quickly will people watchin: of the uk. how quickly will people watching this _ of the uk. how quickly will people watching this morning _ of the uk. how quickly will people watching this morning have - of the uk. how quickly will people watching this morning have extral watching this morning have extra rights in the workplace? used to say you do in the first 100 days. it will begin in the first 100 days. some of those things are decisions that will effectively apply immediately in terms of conservative legislation, which we will remove from the statute book. all things will become law once you have been through that significant presence of passing a piece of legislation in the house of commons and the house of lords and parliament operates. we will begin immediately. fine of lords and parliament operates. we will begin immediately.— will begin immediately. one of the ieces of will begin immediately. one of the pieces of legislation _ will begin immediately. one of the pieces of legislation we _ will begin immediately. one of the pieces of legislation we have - will begin immediately. one of the | pieces of legislation we have talked about before, very important to the people if you think about what

happened at british airways, this idea of fire and rehire so businesses can get rid of stuff, take them back on under less good terms and conditions. during the campaign you said there could be some exemptions to the outcome is that what is going to happen? because that wasn't what was originally promised. irate because that wasn't what was originally promised. we oppose fire and rehire. — originally promised. we oppose fire and rehire. we _ originally promised. we oppose fire and rehire, we will— originally promised. we oppose fire and rehire, we will ban _ originally promised. we oppose fire and rehire, we will ban a _ originally promised. we oppose fire and rehire, we will ban a fire - originally promised. we oppose fire and rehire, we will ban a fire and i and rehire, we will ban a fire and rehire. we will do it in a way that other parliamentarians have tried to do, attempts at legislation as part of this. we recognise where there are occasions a company needs to do are occasions a company needs to do a change of circumstances because the business would be lost if it wasn't for that. we understand but it is the process you go through and making sure we do not see an economy that tries to be competitive by lowering the terms and conditions of the workers. not many people in business want that, it is only in the most egregious examples are where we have seen it and we know what the legislative approach needs to me but don't doubt our commitment

to me but don't doubt our commitment to make the happening. it will be interesting to see how that unfolds. let's talk about some of the results. clearly labour had an absolutely massive win on thursday night, no question about that. but in some pockets of the country, we saw in our tape, jonathan ashworth lost his seat in leicester to an independent candidate who said his victory was for gaza. jess phillips, birmingham mp, very nearly came a cropper in the —— for the same reason. wes streeting, now the health secretary, also nearly came a cropper. dewsbury and batley, an area with a high muslim population, was lost. what are you going to do about this issue? clearly there are pockets of the population who look at labour, who look at particularly keir starmer�*s position on the gaza situation and conflict and think, i cannot vote for them? what are you going to do about them? you

cannot vote for them? what are you going to do about them?— cannot vote for them? what are you going to do about them? you saw how comlicated going to do about them? you saw how complicated and _ going to do about them? you saw how complicated and challenging _ going to do about them? you saw how complicated and challenging british i complicated and challenging british politics is. we have lost colleagues who played a major part of the turnaround of the party fortunes. in a personal level i regret that very, very much. a personal level i regret that very, very much-— a personal level i regret that very, ve much. . ., ., ., ., very much. what are you going to do about it? we — very much. what are you going to do about it? we will _ very much. what are you going to do about it? we will take _ very much. what are you going to do about it? we will take any _ very much. what are you going to do about it? we will take any loss - very much. what are you going to do about it? we will take any loss of. about it? we will take any loss of su ort about it? we will take any loss of support seriously. _ about it? we will take any loss of support seriously. we _ about it? we will take any loss of support seriously. we know - about it? we will take any loss of support seriously. we know howl support seriously. we know how strongly people feel about the issues you are talking about. we know and appreciate why they are frustrated. we will always act in the interests of the country, not a narrow party interest. what people in those circumstances want to see some real progress notjust towards the end of the conflict in gaza and is run, but a real peace process. now we have the chance to deliver on that agenda. the positions we have taken, people look at it, but they want to see progress, and i do understand that. now we can do that we are in government. dare understand that. now we can do that we are in government.— we are in government. are you concerned — we are in government. are you concerned that _ we are in government. are you concerned that in _ we are in government. are you concerned that in the - we are in government. are you . concerned that in the undergrowth we are in government. are you - concerned that in the undergrowth of this election there are trends that might make, that do make some mainstream politicians, concerned? mainstream politicians, concerned ? whether or mainstream politicians, concerned? whether or not that easy losing

support in many communities, or nigel farage winning votes with his reform party? he was taking votes from labour as well as the conservatives and he says he is coming after you. are you concerned about some of the trends we saw the weeds of the election? irate about some of the trends we saw the weeds of the election?— weeds of the election? we have an outstanding _ weeds of the election? we have an outstanding mandate. _ weeds of the election? we have an outstanding mandate. we - weeds of the election? we have an outstanding mandate. we take - outstanding mandate. we take seriously and will analyse those results. i did meet in this election good people who were telling me they were thinking about voting reform. that doesn't mean reform are good people. we are able to tell people, this is what they believe, they support the foreign policies of vladimir putin, people are horrified. now the members of reform will come under the kind of scrutiny which they may be always should have come under, and they will find it very difficult. we will come for them. we will tell people what their agenda would mean for their economic and national security. we know we are in the right place. reform are quite frankly not. do are in the right place. reform are quite frankly not.— are in the right place. reform are quite frankly not. do you think they are not good _ quite frankly not. do you think they are not good people _ quite frankly not. do you think they are not good people like _ quite frankly not. do you think they are not good people like you - quite frankly not. do you think theyj are not good people like you hinted they were not good people. i think

they were not good people. i think the --eole they were not good people. i think the people who — they were not good people. i think the people who voted _ they were not good people. i think the people who voted reform - they were not good people. i think| the people who voted reform were good you —— good people, often didn't know the position of reform. backing... it didn't know the position of reform. backin: . .. , didn't know the position of reform. backinu... , ., ., backing... it is good to have you with us. thank you very much indeed. so, in the next few days keir starmer is travelling across the uk to meet first ministers, and then metro mayors. one of them is andy burnham, the mayor of greater manchester, who's sat round the cabinet table himself when gordon brown was prime minister. here he is watching the exit poll results on thursday night. fair to say he was pleased with the result! and he is with us this morning. i think we can speak to him from his back garden in greater manchester. still beaming, andy burnham. thank you forjoining us. are you sad not to be around the cabinet table? ida. to be around the cabinet table? no, i'm reall to be around the cabinet table? iifr, i'm really excited, actually, to be

in the position i am in because i think this is going to be a great era for the english cities and the english regions, and greater manchester will be at the forefront of that. with a government are saying is core mission is growth. greater manchester has been growing faster than the uk economy in recent times and we have so much more to give. no, iwouldn't times and we have so much more to give. no, i wouldn't swap my position for anything but i look forward very much to working with keir and his forward very much to working with keirand his team. you forward very much to working with keir and his team.— keir and his team. you are due to meet keir — keir and his team. you are due to meet keir starmer _ keir and his team. you are due to meet keir starmer and _ keir and his team. you are due to meet keir starmer and the - keir and his team. you are due to meet keir starmer and the otherl keir and his team. you are due to - meet keir starmer and the other may ors in the coming days. with such a massive majority he doesn't actually have to listen to you. how will you make sure he does?— have to listen to you. how will you make sure he does? well, i am sure he will. make sure he does? well, i am sure he will- ibut — make sure he does? well, i am sure he will. but as _ make sure he does? well, i am sure he will. but as i _ make sure he does? well, i am sure he will. but as i just _ make sure he does? well, i am sure he will. but as ijust said, _ make sure he does? well, i am sure he will. but as ijust said, we - make sure he does? well, i am sure he will. but as ijust said, we need l he will. but as ijust said, we need to get this country growing in all parts of the country. and evolution to the big city regions is the way to the big city regions is the way to do that, as greater manchester has proved. one thing i will say to keir and the new government, committee early to the northern powerhouse, deliver what the tories said they would do but never did. i think that would be a very wise move

because it would create a path to growth. also, ithink because it would create a path to growth. also, i think it would lay the foundations for a second labour term, if people here in the north of england see that change, then i think they will stick with this government for the long haul. what does that mean in practice? well, it means in this parliament, for instance, making a start on work for that new railway between liverpool and manchester. these are the things we can move out really quickly. that's why this is such an exciting moment. .,, , ., , , moment. those things are pretty exensive moment. those things are pretty expensive though. _ moment. those things are pretty expensive though. you _ moment. those things are pretty expensive though. you are - moment. those things are pretty| expensive though. you are calling for extra financial commitments to the north of england, things that weren't in the labour manifesto necessarily because of rachel reeves�* tight on the cheque book? well, to be fair, the last government left £17 billion in the plan for that new railway. but i just couldn�*t make decisions on what should happen at manchester piccadilly and at the other end of the line liverpool city regional mayor steve rotherham and i have a clear plan for this railway line.

let�*s get on with it. it is 200 years since the place where i am talking to you from now gave the world its first ever wellwe. what a great thing it would be to do that again, 200 years later. —— first ever railway. i will also be offering to cure or to build at least our share if not more of our share of the 1.5 million homes he wants to build on this parliament. greater manchester has already allocated the site to do that. we would like a large number of those homes to be council homes. let�*s not just build more homes, let�*s deal with the housing crisis, solve the housing crisis. we think we can do that. ,, ., , , ._ that. keir starmer said yesterday he is still committed _ that. keir starmer said yesterday he is still committed to _ that. keir starmer said yesterday he is still committed to not _ that. keir starmer said yesterday he is still committed to not abolishing l is still committed to not abolishing a cap on benefit payments to families with more than two children. are you disappointed by that? you have spoken before passionately that actually labour should get rid of it?— should get rid of it? well, i understand _ should get rid of it? well, i understand how _ should get rid of it? well, i understand how difficult . should get rid of it? well, i | understand how difficult the

financial situation is. and i remember the tories, when labour left government last time, they actually left us a worse inheritance than they had back in 2010. sol realise that? can�*t go out and just make commitments. i would like if it was kept under review because we have seen grinding poverty in parts of greater manchester in the last 1a years. we have seen the emergence of a voluntary welfare state where communities are having to look out for each other, look after each other. we do need to see change in people�*s to real living standards. when it comes to kids obviously, we want to lift as many children as we can out of poverty. i have heard? because my commitment to that. i would say as and when keep these matters under review. but we really want to have a decisive break with the austerity of the last 1a years that has been so punishing for so many people in our country. you want a decisive break. _ many people in our country. you want a decisive break. we _ many people in our country. you want a decisive break. we were _ many people in our country. you want a decisive break. we were just - a decisive break. we werejust talking to jonathan a decisive break. we werejust talking tojonathan reynolds about how labour lost support in some

communities where previously they had strong backing. do you have a concern about how the party has been losing some voters, particularly muslim voters, over its position in gaza? you were calling for a ceasefire in gaza ahead of labour. are you worried that labour has overlooked some of its traditional voting? overlooked some of its traditional votin: ? ., overlooked some of its traditional votina? ., ., �* ~' overlooked some of its traditional votina? ., ., �* ,, voting? no, i don't think it has overlooked _ voting? no, i don't think it has overlooked people. _ voting? no, i don't think it has overlooked people. obviouslyl voting? no, i don't think it has| overlooked people. obviously it voting? no, i don't think it has - overlooked people. obviously it has been a difficult issue for everybody. proof that it has listened is its position changed. and here in greater manchester we were very pleased indeed that rochdale came back to labour, and paul waugh will be a fantastic mp there. we are regaining people�*s trust where we have lost it. but the proof will be in how the labour government goes about things. i think it has made a really strong start. you know, the great thing about politics sometimes, it is just

how quickly the political weather can change. it feels already like we are in a new era. with a very different, more serious government, less of the volatility. the great thing about what the british people have done is they have created a platform political —— for political stability. you look at france, you look at the us, lots of countries don�*t have that. we now have the chance after lots of turbulence in recent times to have a serious government focused on growth and delivery, without all of the psychodrama is of the past of the tory years. this is a great moment for the country could be because we can move forward now with purpose, always listening to people and making sure we carry people with us. andy burnham, thank you very much indeed forjoining us. what do you think? let us know — email us at kuenssberg@bbc.co.uk, or on social use the hashtag bbclaurak, and we�*ll try and share some of of the converation later in the show. let�*s see what our panel have to say about that.

sharon, let�*s start with you. jonathan reynolds wasn�*t giving much away, but he did say there was money available. he said of the prime minister has spoken to the boss of tata steel. he didn�*t quite guarantee jobs, tata steel. he didn�*t quite guaranteejobs, but tata steel. he didn�*t quite guarantee jobs, but what did you make of his answers?— make of his answers? there is no doubt that _ make of his answers? there is no doubt that labour _ make of his answers? there is no doubt that labour coming - make of his answers? there is no doubt that labour coming in - make of his answers? there is no doubt that labour coming in and l make of his answers? there is no i doubt that labour coming in and the intent of what they want to do is a good thing. i am glad we have a labour government. i am the leader of a trade union and my main focus isjobs, pay and conditions of a trade union and my main focus is jobs, pay and conditions for workers, so i am going to be a critical friend workers, so i am going to be a criticalfriend or a pain in the proverbial. whichever way they want to take that! it is myjob to make sure the feet are to the fire of this. the problem i have got here is that when investment is spoken about in britain there is neverjobs guarantees attached. the devil will be in the detail. unless there are jobs guarantees attached to the investment, what tax i will do is take the investment, build one electric arc, import green steel for the rest of it and these jobs will walk out the door. i am going to

give very eagle eyed and exactly what that detail means. the investment could be more than what they have promised. and this moves us onto the fiscal rules and the fact that we will have to borrow to invest if we are going to invest in british industry. that will have to happen. i will be watching very closely. happen. i will be watching very closel . ~ closely. when you say the fiscal rules, closely. when you say the fiscal rules. that _ closely. when you say the fiscal rules, that is _ closely. when you say the fiscal rules, that is the _ closely. when you say the fiscal rules, that is the spending - closely. when you say the fiscal| rules, that is the spending limits that rachel reeves comedy shadow chancellor, as was, now the chancellor, as was, now the chancellor in number 10. you didn�*t actually sign up to the labour manifesto, you will read back but you are not quite in the tent. do you are not quite in the tent. do you think they will have to move on those rules because of reality? i do. since 1997, fiscal rules have changed nine times. fiscal rules change. and of course when you change. and of course when you change then they have more opportunity. we are going to have to borrow to invest. we haven�*t got time to wait for growth. people are literally hurting out there. we have to borrow to invest. our crumbling public services need money, absolutely need money. andy burnham

was very supportive _ absolutely need money. andy burnham was very supportive of _ absolutely need money. andy burnham was very supportive of keir— absolutely need money. andy burnham was very supportive of keir starmer, i was very supportive of keir starmer, you could tell he was delighted by the result. this you could tell he was delighted by the result. �* , , the result. as i might, by the way. he did say — the result. as i might, by the way. he did say there _ the result. as i might, by the way. he did say there needs _ the result. as i might, by the way. he did say there needs to - the result. as i might, by the way. he did say there needs to be i the result. as i might, by the way. he did say there needs to be a i he did say there needs to be a decisive break with austerity. interesting phrase. do you think as things stand that labour is on course to make a decisive break with austerity? course to make a decisive break with austeri ? , ., ., ., ., austerity? they would have to do that. austerity? they would have to do that- they _ austerity? they would have to do that. they will _ austerity? they would have to do that. they will have _ austerity? they would have to do that. they will have to _ austerity? they would have to do that. they will have to make i that. they will have to make difficult choices. i don�*t understand the choices between pensioners and children. who decided thatis pensioners and children. who decided that is the choice. ——? the richest families in britain, there are 50 richest families in britain worth £500 billion. that is the same as 33 million people. that is the same as half britain. this completely unfair society has to be looked at. we need to invest. we have to borrow to invest. that is not the same as borrowing for anything else. borrowings were gassed is absolute the right thing to do. —— borrowing to invest. we have to look at our crumbling public services and say, what we�*re going to do about this?

we can�*t wait for growth. it is good thing to say. i understand why they are saying it. but every economist pretty much, i have been singing for the best part of six months, we are not going to be able to get that type growth quick enough and people won�*t wait. people will not wait for that delivery. it�*s won't wait. people will not wait for that delivery-— that delivery. it's interesting, simon, because _ that delivery. it's interesting, simon, because the - that delivery. it's interesting, simon, because the labour. that delivery. it's interesting, - simon, because the labour leadership are saying they won partly because they made these very tight promises on spending, they neutralised that fear that sometimes voters have that labour goes crazy with public money. what do you think are the dangers for keir starmer? i what do you think are the dangers for keir starmer?— for keir starmer? i think actually the phrase _ for keir starmer? i think actually the phrase by — for keir starmer? i think actually the phrase by which _ for keir starmer? i think actually the phrase by which the - for keir starmer? i think actuallyj the phrase by which the standing for keir starmer? i think actually i the phrase by which the standing of the phrase by which the standing of the new— the phrase by which the standing of the new government will live or die is two _ the new government will live or die is two words, fully costed. on the one hand — is two words, fully costed. on the one hand everybody knows across the political _ one hand everybody knows across the political spectrum that this was a bread—and—butter election. we all know— bread—and—butter election. we all know i_ bread—and—butter election. we all know i think actually that keir starmer's dad was a toolmaker. this was above _ starmer's dad was a toolmaker. this was above all a toolkit election. people — was above all a toolkit election. people very upset about things that

immediately impact their daily lives, — immediately impact their daily lives, waiting times for an operation under the nhs, the notion that prisons are about to be absolutely full, i'm very happy to see that — absolutely full, i'm very happy to see that the government is prepared to appoint _ see that the government is prepared to appoint somebody like james timson — to appoint somebody like james timson from outside the political circle, _ timson from outside the political circle, patrick vallance as a minister— circle, patrick vallance as a minister of science. these things absolutely, as sharon was saying, need _ absolutely, as sharon was saying, need to— absolutely, as sharon was saying, need to be — absolutely, as sharon was saying, need to be addressed quickly. the 14th hospital myth of the last several — 14th hospital myth of the last several governments was absolutely, it was _ several governments was absolutely, it was like _ several governments was absolutely, it was like spitting in the eyes of the electorate to say, we say this and it— the electorate to say, we say this and it will— the electorate to say, we say this and it will happen. but it won't really— and it will happen. but it won't really happen. this is actually at the heart — really happen. this is actually at the heart of the legitimacy of the newcomer. ijust want to add one small— newcomer. ijust want to add one small thing. you go with proper faith when you say you go with proper faith when you sav it— you go with proper faith when you sav it was— you go with proper faith when you say it was fully costed, you meant it. say it was fully costed, you meant it on _ say it was fully costed, you meant it on the — say it was fully costed, you meant it. on the other hand they were all these _ it. on the other hand they were all these black— it. on the other hand they were all these black swans in a kind of turbulent— these black swans in a kind of turbulent pond out there called the

world _ turbulent pond out there called the world economy. if we get donald trump, _ world economy. if we get donald trump, both in foreign policy and defence — trump, both in foreign policy and defence spending, there is trouble ahead _ defence spending, there is trouble ahead. it— defence spending, there is trouble ahead. . , , , ahead. it was very interesting, downin: ahead. it was very interesting, downing street _ ahead. it was very interesting, downing street posted - ahead. it was very interesting, i downing street posted yesterday the beginnings of a conversation between keir starmer and president biden since he moved into number ten. we can show you a glimpse of that now. congratulations mr prime minister, one hell of a victory.— one hell of a victory. thank you mr president. — one hell of a victory. thank you mr president. it _ one hell of a victory. thank you mr president, it has _ one hell of a victory. thank you mr president, it has been _ one hell of a victory. thank you mr president, it has been a _ one hell of a victory. thank you mr president, it has been a long i one hell of a victory. thank you mr president, it has been a long night and dav~ _ president, it has been a long night and da . , , . and day. interesting they chose it to ut it and day. interesting they chose it to put it in _ and day. interesting they chose it to put it in the — and day. interesting they chose it to put it in the public _ and day. interesting they chose it to put it in the public domain i and day. interesting they chose it to put it in the public domain but| to put it in the public domain but the popular is swelling around the place and we were talking to jonathan reynolds because some of it as muslim voters. when it comes to your party, michael, how should they have handled nigel farage because uk reform did such damaged to the

conservatives on thursday night? that interview with jonathan reynolds, that expose the differences between electioneering and campaigning and opposition on the one hand and governments on the other. government is difficult, there are difficult decisions to be made. i grew up not farfrom port talbot so i really hope some successful conclusion can be reached to that very difficult challenge. but there are difficulties all over the place. you cannotjust borrow, borrow and borrow without terrible consequences in terms of inflation, in terms of the whole economic fabric of our society. so it is a difficult business and there are difficult business and there are difficult choices to be made. what the conservative party has got to do in the future is to remember that it is a national party. in due course, it is going to take time, we are going to have to come up with

policies that reflect the needs of the whole nation. it�*s not going to be any good devising policies that appeal to narrow sections of the electorate-— appeal to narrow sections of the electorate. ~ . , .,~ appeal to narrow sections of the electorate. ~ ., , .,~ ., electorate. was that the mistake of the campaign? _ electorate. was that the mistake of the campaign? i— electorate. was that the mistake of the campaign? i don't _ electorate. was that the mistake of the campaign? i don't think- electorate. was that the mistake of the campaign? i don't think it i electorate. was that the mistake of the campaign? i don't think it was. | the campaign? i don't think it was. you know. — the campaign? i don't think it was. you know, there _ the campaign? i don't think it was. you know, there will _ the campaign? i don't think it was. you know, there will be _ the campaign? i don't think it was. you know, there will be an - the campaign? i don't think it was. you know, there will be an inquestj you know, there will be an inquest of sorts, but i think it is much more important to concentrate on the future and concentrate on what the conservative party can do in the future. we all agreed the electorate is extremely volatile. the difference in the vote share was much less than the difference in the number of seats. so there is an important role for the conservative party in holding the government to account over the next few years as an effective opposition and then coming up with policies, which will be the right policies for the challenges that then face our country. challenges that then face our count . ~ ., ., ~ challenges that then face our count . ~ ., ., ,, ., country. who do you think could do that? i country. who do you think could do that? i don't— country. who do you think could do

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election the conservatives - the tory party chairman. this is an election the conservatives lost, i election the conservatives lost, much _ election the conservatives lost, much more _ election the conservatives lost, much more than _ election the conservatives lost, much more than labour- election the conservatives lost, much more than labour one. i election the conservatives lost, i much more than labour one. you election the conservatives lost, much more than labour one. you have sent a clear— much more than labour one. you have sent a clear signal _ much more than labour one. you have sent a clear signal that _ much more than labour one. you have sent a clear signal that the _ sent a clear signal that the government of the united kingdom must change. rishi sunak is resigning as leader after the terrible results, so that creates a vacancy. the tories must work out who's next, and how they can move on. the former health secretary, vicky atkins, who might fancy thejob, is here. she is the shadow health secretary now. what do you think went wrong? good morning, laura. firstand foremost, we all understand that the voters wanted a change and we are going to have to look hard and long at ourselves as to why they wanted a change. but for me, one of the issuesis change. but for me, one of the issues is going to be the issue of trust and as part of that, we need to ask ourselves some very hard questions about delivery, about integrity and also about our values. underlying all of this, of course, we have to talk as a unified party,

because i am very, very conscious we lost very many wonderful colleagues and friends on thursday night who worked their socks off as mps and as candidates, but also other candidates, but also other candidates and volunteers who did so much work over the six week period to try and select more conservative mps. ., _ ,. to try and select more conservative mps. ., _ i. ., to try and select more conservative mps. ., ., ., to try and select more conservative mps. you say you have to look like one unit, mps. you say you have to look like one unit. is — mps. you say you have to look like one unit. is part — mps. you say you have to look like one unit, is part of— mps. you say you have to look like one unit, is part of what _ mps. you say you have to look like one unit, is part of what you - mps. you say you have to look like one unit, is part of what you think| one unit, is part of what you think went wrong, weekend after weekend in here and year after year on tv, in the papers we saw conservatives knocking lumps out of each other, do you think that is what did few, lack of discipline?— of discipline? voters want the government — of discipline? voters want the government to _ of discipline? voters want the government to deliver - of discipline? voters want the government to deliver for - of discipline? voters want the i government to deliver for them. of discipline? voters want the - government to deliver for them. when i am walking round my constituency, voters are concerned we have the interest at heart, whether it is health care, supporting local businesses and ensuring migration continues to fall. the minute we start conversations away from those

essential elements, it brings into question our delivery, but also we as a party are about, our values. please don't think i am trying to turn away from the very loud, clear message to us as a party, but i do observe that the support for the labour party in the selection has spread very thinly, and a little bit like margarine. i think there is a real opportunity for us as a party, once we have reflected and once we have absolutely taken on board those lessons and acted on them, there is a realjob for us to do to rebuild our party. and we will do that, we will get there.— our party. and we will do that, we will get there. what went wrong with our values will get there. what went wrong with your values then? _ will get there. what went wrong with your values then? we _ will get there. what went wrong with your values then? we know - will get there. what went wrong with your values then? we know the - your values then? we know the country is _ your values then? we know the country is instinctively - country is instinctively conservative. people want lower taxes, i am conservative. people want lower taxes, iam not conservative. people want lower taxes, i am not sure they will agree with sharon's assessment by borrowing more and to spend more. instinctively conservative, when they booted you out, you got your worst defeat ever? in they booted you out, you got your worst defeat ever?—

they booted you out, you got your worst defeat ever? in terms of their instincts, worst defeat ever? in terms of their instincts. i — worst defeat ever? in terms of their instincts, i believe _ worst defeat ever? in terms of their instincts, i believe the _ instincts, i believe the instinctively conservative, they want to build a better future for their children, they want us to help them thrive in their personal lives and in their livelihoods. and so those values are important it was all. what we need to do is to make sure we are acting on those values, but also ensuring that we have policies that deliver on the sorts of issues that were being raised. if of issues that were being raised. if the country has dramatically kicked you out, this is not a standard defeat, labourwon you out, this is not a standard defeat, labour won a landslide, what was it that was wrong? i defeat, labour won a landslide, what was it that was wrong?— was it that was wrong? i think, as i said at the — was it that was wrong? i think, as i said at the beginning, _ was it that was wrong? i think, as i said at the beginning, it _ was it that was wrong? i think, as i said at the beginning, it is - was it that was wrong? i think, as i said at the beginning, it is about i said at the beginning, it is about trust. for me there are a couple of elements we want to look at as part of this. we are 72 hours away from the result we have never met yet, as a parliamentary party we have to talk to our members and volunteers and so on. i imagine we will want to be looking at how we delivered on

policies. over the ia years there is some real success, including in education. we can be proud of the fact we have the best readers in the western world. we can be proud of the fact 800 jobs were created today. we can be proud of the fact we brought in gay marriage. but we also need to acknowledge that there are areas where we wanted to do more and show progress. i feel that very strongly as shadow health secretary now. �* strongly as shadow health secretary now. ~ , ., ., ., strongly as shadow health secretary now. �* , ., ., ., this now. are you going to run? this weekend is _ now. are you going to run? this weekend is not _ now. are you going to run? this weekend is not about _ now. are you going to run? this| weekend is not about leadership. now. are you going to run? this i weekend is not about leadership. it is about the world as well as the who, would viewers be surprised if come in a few days, they see you have a nap she will run for the leadership? mr; have a nap she will run for the leadership?— have a nap she will run for the leadership? have a nap she will run for the leadershi? g , ., leadership? my absolute focus for the moment _ leadership? my absolute focus for the moment and _ leadership? my absolute focus for the moment and the _ leadership? my absolute focus for the moment and the reason - leadership? my absolute focus for the moment and the reason i - leadership? my absolute focus for| the moment and the reason i came leadership? my absolute focus for - the moment and the reason i came on today was not to talk about leadership, this is not the moment for this. we need to show the public we understand they have sent us some very loud messages, we are listening

and reflecting. then we, as a party, need to get together work out what we want for the future. [30 need to get together work out what we want for the future.— we want for the future. do you do ou think we want for the future. do you do you think you _ we want for the future. do you do you think you have _ we want for the future. do you do you think you have what - we want for the future. do you do you think you have what it - we want for the future. do you do you think you have what it takes? i you think you have what it takes? for anyone at this stage to be talking about their own ambitions goes to what we were talking about at the very beginning, which is politics and the conservative party needs to be at the forefront of everything we are talking about. you talkin: everything we are talking about. you talking about trust and being honest with voters, wouldn't it be refreshingly honest to be honest about your ambition. refreshingly honest to be honest about yourambition. oliver refreshingly honest to be honest about your ambition. oliver dowden, he was the deputy prime minister has been overheard saying he thinks you should be the leader. everyone knows there has been as shadow leadership race running for very long time? that race running for very long time? git this point in time it does not and should not be about personalities and people. the conservative party is bigger than any one member and ourfocus has to is bigger than any one member and our focus has to be on the country. my our focus has to be on the country. my hope and expect that in due course when a leadership contest is

held, everybody involved will be uniting around the central message that we are all in this for our constituents and the electorate in four of the united kingdom. victoria atkins, four of the united kingdom. victoria atkins. thank _ four of the united kingdom. victoria atkins, thank you _ four of the united kingdom. victoria atkins, thank you for _ four of the united kingdom. victoria atkins, thank you for coming - four of the united kingdom. victoria atkins, thank you for coming in - four of the united kingdom. victoria atkins, thank you for coming in this | atkins, thank you for coming in this morning. but different mps have very different diagnoses of how to cure the party's ills. robertjenrick quit as rishi sunak�*s immigration minister just before christmas. on thursday, he hung on to his newark seat, robertjenrick is duly elected as member of parliament for the newark constituency. he member of parliament for the newark constituency-— constituency. he is now the last to mp constituency. he is now the last tory mp in _ constituency. he is now the last tory mp in nottinghamshire. i in the sunday times today, he blames the conservative defeat on their failure to deliver. particularly on immigration and he joins us now. why do you think the public gave you a party such a kick in? it public gave you a party such a kick in? ., , public gave you a party such a kick in? . , ., ., , ., ., in? it was a devastating defeat, the worst for a party — in? it was a devastating defeat, the worst for a party since _ in? it was a devastating defeat, the worst for a party since 1832. - in? it was a devastating defeat, the worst for a party since 1832. there l worst for a party since 1832. there are so many brilliant, dedicated

public servants, my former colleagues who lost theirjobs. i feel desperately sorry for them. but my argument is that the reason we lost the trust of millions of people across the country, is not because we were too left—wing or right—wing or had this slogan all that slogan, but fundamentally because we failed to deliver on the promises we made to deliver on the promises we made to the british public. you to deliver on the promises we made to the british public.— to the british public. you didn't do the thin . s to the british public. you didn't do the things you _ to the british public. you didn't do the things you said _ to the british public. you didn't do the things you said you _ to the british public. you didn't do the things you said you were - to the british public. you didn't do | the things you said you were going to do? in the things you said you were going to do? ii' ' the things you said you were going to do? ::' ' ., to do? in 2019 we said we would get brexit done — to do? in 2019 we said we would get brexit done and _ to do? in 2019 we said we would get brexit done and deliver _ to do? in 2019 we said we would get brexit done and deliver a _ to do? in 2019 we said we would get brexit done and deliver a strong - brexit done and deliver a strong economy, strong nhs and secure borders. although there are many things i will fiercely defend about the record of our party in government and we did get brexit done, we did not deliver the level of growth and taxation that conservatives expect. the quality of service in the nhs that the public need and above all, the secure borders and controlled and reduced migration. we promised that and we

need to live there. you migration. we promised that and we need to live there.— need to live there. you broke promises _ need to live there. you broke promises you _ need to live there. you broke promises you made - need to live there. you broke promises you made to - need to live there. you broke promises you made to the i need to live there. you broke i promises you made to the public need to live there. you broke - promises you made to the public and thatis promises you made to the public and that is why you got booted out? there are so many things we should be proud of as a government, but we will only begin the long road of winning back the trust and faith of the public if we are honest. that is why i am being painfully honest today and in the article i wrote in the sunday times about what has gone wrong. because as a party, we have got to have shared diagnosis of what happened. we have got to have a common set of principles we can unite around. the conservative party is a broad church but it has to have a common creed. if we can do that in the weeks and months ahead, we can begin the long road of regaining trust and confidence and holding the labour party to account. but trust and confidence and holding the labour party to account.— labour party to account. but why didn't you _ labour party to account. but why didn't you keep _ labour party to account. but why didn't you keep those _ labour party to account. but why didn't you keep those promises? i labour party to account. but why - didn't you keep those promises? what was it? where you too busy arguing about brexit, was it because there were questions about the behaviour of ministers in government and all the things that happened under boris johnson and his relationship with

the truth? what was it that stop you? who bears responsibility for your failure to keep you? who bears responsibility for yourfailure to keep his promises which you have outlined? i your failure to keep his promises which you have outlined?- which you have outlined? i don't think it is about _ which you have outlined? i don't think it is about any _ which you have outlined? i don't think it is about any one - think it is about any one individual. we are all responsible for what happened. in politics you win or you lose as a team. what we have got to learn is why did we not deliver on those central promises? above all, immigration, not exclusively immigration. i think it was a number of things. we didn't have a good enough diagnosis ofjust how broken some of our public services were. we didn't have the willingness to take the tough decisions that were necessary to deliver for the british decisions that were necessary to deliverfor the british public. when we said, for example on immigration, we said, for example on immigration, we would do whatever it takes. we didn't do whatever it takes. it is only by showing the public that going forwards the conservative party understands that we didn't do what was necessary on those crucial issues, and making clear that if we are ever fortunate enough to be in

government again, we will do that. but i think we can begin to end the public�*s trust again. of those things it is crucial we understand that migration was at the heart of it. two thirds of the constituencies that we lost in the general election, the majority is, the margin of defeat was less than the reform vote. and that is the case in the north, the south, scotland, wales, everywhere, including in seats we lost to the liberal democrats. on that issue, not exclusively, but above all that issue, we have got to make sure the conservative party takes a different approach. flan conservative party takes a different a- roach. . ,, conservative party takes a different a- roach. ., ,, , conservative party takes a different auroach. ., , ., , conservative party takes a different auroach. . , ., approach. can you be honest about our own approach. can you be honest about your own ambition, _ approach. can you be honest about your own ambition, do _ approach. can you be honest about your own ambition, do you - approach. can you be honest about your own ambition, do you have i approach. can you be honest about i your own ambition, do you have what it takes? i honestly don't think that three days on from a general election in which we have lost so many friends and colleagues that it is right to have self—indulgent conversations like this. the reason i came on as because i care about the conservative party. i have been a

member since 1997 when i was 16 years old. i have been with it through thick and thin. i want to ensure it has the right diagnosis of what has gone wrong. and that diagnosis is not about personalities. it is about principles. and ideas. hat principles. and ideas. not individuals. _ principles. and ideas. not individuals. let's - principles. and ideas. not individuals. let's talk about it in principle. it is quite clear that you and victoria atkins are partly because you have ambitions and you want to at least be to be in the running for the party leadership. i think our viewers will know that quite clearly even though you're both been coy. do you believe in principle you might have what it takes to be party leader? i’m takes to be party leader? i'm honestly not _ takes to be party leader? i�*sn honestly not going to get into that because i think it is self—indulgent. i think the first step for the party is to have a proper honest diagnosis about what has gone wrong. does proper honest diagnosis about what has gone wrong-— has gone wrong. does that mean a lona has gone wrong. does that mean a long campaign. — has gone wrong. does that mean a long campaign, along _ has gone wrong. does that mean a long campaign, along handover? l has gone wrong. does that mean a long campaign, along handover? i | long campaign, along handover? i would support a longer campaign. i think we as a party need to think very carefully about what has happened. once we have that, we need to unite behind that common set of

true conservative principles and move forward, and above all, hold keir starmer to account. the country needs the conservative party right now to provide a strong opposition. robertjenrick, thank you very much indeed for coming in. i have to say this morning i wouldn't be amazingly surprised, probably neither would you, if within a certain amount of time either victoria atkins or robertjenrick announce their intentions. we are grateful to them for coming in. this election made history for all sorts of reasons. when you put their votes together, the smaller parties got their highest ever share of the votes. maybe it was the bungee jumping. or maybe, given they want to change the voting system, ironically, the lib dems just learned to play the system better. they ruthlessly targeted seats where the conservatives and had held them. there he is, ed davey, the happiest man in britain, he looked like there, celebrating winning more than 70 seats. and hejoins us there, celebrating winning more than 70 seats. and he joins us this morning. ed davey, congratulations.

i suppose. more than 70 seats. why do you think you did so well, what do you plan to do with all these new seats?— what do you plan to do with all these new seats? ., ,, , ., , . these new seats? thank you very much for comini these new seats? thank you very much for coming and — these new seats? thank you very much for coming and taking _ these new seats? thank you very much for coming and taking me _ these new seats? thank you very much for coming and taking me from - for coming and taking me from south—west london so i can spend more of today with my family, who i have missed a lot over the past few weeks. it was an amazing result for the liberal democrats. we got 72 seats, with the last one coming in just today. and we are very excited about this opportunity. we fought the campaign putting health and care of the top of our list. we are going to fight in parliament to campaign for health and care. i have already called for an emergency budget for health and care this month, so we can start rescuing our nhs, which is on its knees because of the conservatives.— on its knees because of the conservatives. ., ., .. , conservatives. you are energetically on the campaign _ conservatives. you are energetically on the campaign criticising - conservatives. you are energetically on the campaign criticising the - on the campaign criticising the conservatives. are you just —— going to be just as energetic and going after the labour party?—

to be just as energetic and going after the labour party? well, we are aioin to after the labour party? well, we are going to be — after the labour party? well, we are going to be constructive _ after the labour party? well, we are going to be constructive opposition. | going to be constructive opposition. we fought the election on health and care, the cost of living, ending the sewage scandal, and in parliament we will focus on those issues. we will urge the government to go further. we have already started that by calling for the emergency budget on health and care. and i want to make sure they respond. i mean, one thing i was disappointed in in the labour manifesto was it didn't mention family carers or unpaid carers. i have made very clear that the liberal democrats will be the voice of carers and will challenge the government to make sure they deliver for the millions of people looking after their loved ones. but for the millions of people looking after their loved ones.— after their loved ones. but when labour because _ after their loved ones. but when labour because this _ after their loved ones. but when labour because this enormous l labour because this enormous majority, how are you going to make them pay any attention to you? they don't have to, they are not under any obligation, and they have raw power now, they don't have to pay attention to the liberal democrats? well, by the strength of our arguments. we have managed over a number of years to persuade people to steal our policies. that is a

really good idea. even in opposition it was the liberal democrats who argued for a windfall tax on the huge profits of the oil and gas companies, made on the back of president putin and his illegal invasion of ukraine. it was the liberal democrats making that argument to help people with energy bills. three months after we made it, the labour party stole that idea. i'm hoping if we argue for health and care, ending the sewage scandal, argue for action on the cost of living, that the labour government will realise that we actually have the best arguments, the best policies, and take them. that would be great.— the best policies, and take them. that would be great. reform uk got many more — that would be great. reform uk got many more votes _ that would be great. reform uk got many more votes than _ that would be great. reform uk got many more votes than you - that would be great. reform uk got many more votes than you might i that would be great. reform uk got l many more votes than you might have ended up with far, far fewer seats. is that fair? ended up with far, far fewer seats. is that fair?— ended up with far, far fewer seats. is that fair? well, you know liberal democrats have _ is that fair? well, you know liberal democrats have long _ is that fair? well, you know liberal democrats have long argued - is that fair? well, you know liberal democrats have long argued for i is that fair? well, you know liberal| democrats have long argued for fair votes. long argued for electoral reform and proportional representation. we want to improve our democracy. our politics is broken. we will continue to make

that case. it may mean there are people who are elected we don't agree with. by the way, that has been the case in the first past the post. there are many people in the conservative party share the values of reform. in conservative party share the values of reform. , ., ., of reform. in terms of reforming the votin: of reform. in terms of reforming the voting system. _ of reform. in terms of reforming the voting system. if— of reform. in terms of reforming the voting system, if you _ of reform. in terms of reforming the voting system, if you reform - of reform. in terms of reforming the voting system, if you reform the - voting system, if you reform the voting system, if you reform the voting system, if you reform the voting system under proportional representation, which you have long argued for, would you be happy to see reform uk being the third biggest party and then not the liberal democrats? i biggest party and then not the liberal democrats?— biggest party and then not the liberal democrats? i believe in democracy- _ liberal democrats? i believe in democracy. and _ liberal democrats? i believe in democracy. and i _ liberal democrats? i believe in democracy. and i believe - liberal democrats? i believe in democracy. and i believe in i liberal democrats? i believe in i democracy. and i believe in taking forward the ideas of political reform. people will get voted in who you don't agree with under first past the post people in reform have got elected too and people in the conservative party close to reform have got elected. but that is democracy, allowing the people to express their will. i'm just very proud that the liberal democrats have managed to do a record result. our best ever, certainly the best in

the largest third party in british political history. i am determined that our amazing candidates will be local champions for their area and put forward the liberal democrat values which i think are more in tune with the british electorate than anyone else. 5ir tune with the british electorate than anyone else.— tune with the british electorate than anyone else. sir ed davey, lib dem leader. _ than anyone else. sir ed davey, lib dem leader, with _ than anyone else. sir ed davey, lib dem leader, with a _ than anyone else. sir ed davey, lib dem leader, with a huge _ than anyone else. sir ed davey, lib dem leader, with a huge new- than anyone else. sir ed davey, lib| dem leader, with a huge new cohort of mps, thank you forjoining us this morning and enjoy that date with your family. this morning and enjoy that date with yourfamily. it this morning and enjoy that date with your family. it has been a long campaign for everybody. thank you very much indeed. labour history has been made in the last few days — sweeter for labour, given how rarely they win — only four of their leaders have ever won an election with a majority — here are starmer's predecessors. labour's policy is the only policy that can lead us to peace abroad and socialjustice that can lead us to peace abroad and social justice at that can lead us to peace abroad and socialjustice at home. prime ministers tony blair entered downing _ prime ministers tony blair entered downing street in triumph today after— downing street in triumph today after the — downing street in triumph today after the biggest election victory in labour— after the biggest election victory in labour history. a

after the biggest election victory in labour history.— after the biggest election victory in labour history. a new dawn has broken, in labour history. a new dawn has broken. has _ in labour history. a new dawn has broken, has it _ in labour history. a new dawn has broken, has it not? _ broken, has it not? now our country has voted decisively for change _ simon, which previous labour prime minister do you think keir starmer will be more like he well, i think it will be most like himself rather than anyone else. it it will be most like himself rather than anyone else.— than anyone else. it beats harold wilson's refusal— than anyone else. it beats harold wilson's refusal to _ than anyone else. it beats harold wilson's refusal to be _ than anyone else. it beats harold wilson's refusalto be up - than anyone else. it beats harold wilson's refusalto be up in - than anyone else. it beats harold wilson's refusal to be up in the l wilson's refusal to be up in the sky _ wilson's refusal to be up in the sky there _ wilson's refusal to be up in the sky. there are some things about clement— sky. there are some things about clement attlee. but i think that is less important, forgive me, then saying _ less important, forgive me, then saying this — less important, forgive me, then saying this. i suppose it self evident _ saying this. i suppose it self evident. but it is worth saying on your— evident. but it is worth saying on your programme on a sunday morning. that was— your programme on a sunday morning. that was someone who lives a lot of time, _ that was someone who lives a lot of time, most — that was someone who lives a lot of time, most in the united states, where _ time, most in the united states, where the — time, most in the united states, where the putative nominee for the republican party has already said that it's _ republican party has already said that it's not necessarily going to be that it's not necessarily going to he the _ that it's not necessarily going to be the case that he will accept the

resuit— be the case that he will accept the result of— be the case that he will accept the result of the election, the transfer of power— result of the election, the transfer of power so peacefully, so generously stated in rishi sunak's rather— generously stated in rishi sunak's rather wonderful speech, is a majestic— rather wonderful speech, is a majestic thing that we can't take for granted. we have right now historically merciless problems of climate _ historically merciless problems of climate change, the next pandemic, which _ climate change, the next pandemic, which i _ climate change, the next pandemic, which i fear— climate change, the next pandemic, which i fear is probably around the corner. _ which i fear is probably around the corner. wars— which i fear is probably around the corner, wars we didn't think would happen— corner, wars we didn't think would happen again in europe and elsewhere and the _ happen again in europe and elsewhere and the middle east, so how democracy endures in facing these things— democracy endures in facing these things is— democracy endures in facing these things is the ultimate problem. and when _ things is the ultimate problem. and when you — things is the ultimate problem. and when you... democracy is certainly on the _ when you... democracy is certainly on the back— when you... democracy is certainly on the back foot, but it is not down and out _ on the back foot, but it is not down and out. narendra modi did not get a triumphant— and out. narendra modi did not get a triumphant majority. in all likelihood marine le pen will not -et likelihood marine le pen will not get an— likelihood marine le pen will not get an absolute majority today. we should _ get an absolute majority today. we should he _ get an absolute majority today. we should be grateful and celebrating that, and — should be grateful and celebrating that, and have a glass of something

stiff at _ that, and have a glass of something stiff at lodge. sharon, what kind of pm i do think keir starmer will be? you will be tough customer. you are in the labour movement but you are a tough customer. i’d labour movement but you are a tough customer. �* g labour movement but you are a tough customer. �* ~' ., labour movement but you are a tough customer. �* ~ ., , ~ customer. i'd like to be like in 1945 transformational - customer. i'd like to be like in - 1945 transformational government, 19a5 transformational government, thatis 19a5 transformational government, that is what i would like them to be. just listening to the two people you are interviewing for the tories, i still don't think the penny has dropped yet. that actually, people are hurting to a degree that really is beyond anything i have ever seen before. and i have 1.1 million workers in my union. i am out there all the time. and for me i don't think what they are taking into account, that we have a 2008 crash and workers paid the price and they have given bankers back their bonuses prior to the new government coming in. we had covid, and it was low paid workers who dealt with that. it wasn't city bankers. it was low paid workers. when they came back they were told they weren't getting a pay rise. something has got to stop. that's why i do say to

labour, it is a big moment for them. i think they will rise to the challenge but i will be on their tails to make sure! it is a big moment for them and they need to grasp the nettle, they need to make it count. ., ~ . ., ., ., , it count. lord michael howard, it is a bi da it count. lord michael howard, it is a big day for— it count. lord michael howard, it is a big day for you- _ it count. lord michael howard, it is a big day for you. i _ it count. lord michael howard, it is a big day for you. i have _ it count. lord michael howard, it is a big day for you. i have just - it count. lord michael howard, it is a big day for you. i have just been. a big day for you. i havejust been told it is your birthday. a big day for you. i have 'ust been told it is your birthday._ told it is your birthday. happy birthda . told it is your birthday. happy birthday. thank _ told it is your birthday. happy birthday. thank you _ told it is your birthday. happy birthday. thank you very - told it is your birthday. happy i birthday. thank you very much! told it is your birthday. happy - birthday. thank you very much! you heard two rrot _ birthday. thank you very much! heard two not ready to declare birthday. thank you very much!m heard two not ready to declare being candidates but we think they are likely to be candidates for the leadership. do you think the conservatives could actually get their act together in time for the next general election, or will it be a long period in opposition? weill. a long period in opposition? well, obviously l — a long period in opposition? well, obviously i hope _ a long period in opposition? well, obviously i hope it _ a long period in opposition? well, obviously i hope it can _ a long period in opposition? well, obviously i hope it can be - a long period in opposition? well, obviously i hope it can be possible to do— obviously i hope it can be possible to do it _ obviously i hope it can be possible to do it in — obviously i hope it can be possible to do it in time _ obviously i hope it can be possible to do it in time for— obviously i hope it can be possible to do it in time for the _ obviously i hope it can be possible to do it in time for the next - to do it in time for the next election _ to do it in time for the next election. we _ to do it in time for the next election. we will— to do it in time for the next election. we willjust - to do it in time for the next election. we willjust havel to do it in time for the next i election. we willjust have to to do it in time for the next - election. we willjust have to wait and see — election. we willjust have to wait and see but _ election. we willjust have to wait and see but i _ election. we willjust have to wait and see. but i do _ election. we willjust have to wait and see. but i do think— election. we willjust have to wait and see. but i do think that - election. we willjust have to wait and see. but i do think that it- election. we willjust have to wait and see. but i do think that it is. and see. but i do think that it is important — and see. but i do think that it is important that— and see. but i do think that it is important that the _ and see. but i do think that it is important that the conservativej important that the conservative party _ important that the conservative party takes _ important that the conservative party takes time, _ important that the conservative party takes time, takes - important that the conservative party takes time, takes time i important that the conservative party takes time, takes time toj important that the conservative - party takes time, takes time to look at all— party takes time, takes time to look at all the _ party takes time, takes time to look at all the candidates, _ party takes time, takes time to look at all the candidates, takes - party takes time, takes time to look at all the candidates, takes time - party takes time, takes time to look at all the candidates, takes time toi at all the candidates, takes time to choose _ at all the candidates, takes time to choose its— at all the candidates, takes time to choose its leader, _ at all the candidates, takes time to choose its leader, and _ at all the candidates, takes time to choose its leader, and it— at all the candidates, takes time to choose its leader, and it takes- at all the candidates, takes time to| choose its leader, and it takes time to think— choose its leader, and it takes time to think very— choose its leader, and it takes time to think very hard _ choose its leader, and it takes time to think very hard about _ choose its leader, and it takes time to think very hard about how- choose its leader, and it takes time to think very hard about how it - choose its leader, and it takes time to think very hard about how it canl to think very hard about how it can best respond — to think very hard about how it can best respond to _ to think very hard about how it can best respond to the _ to think very hard about how it can best respond to the challenges - best respond to the challenges

facing — best respond to the challenges facing our— best respond to the challenges facing our country. _ best respond to the challenges facing our country. on- best respond to the challenges facing our country. on a - best respond to the challenges i facing our country. on a national level. _ facing our country. on a national level. not— facing our country. on a national level, not appealing _ facing our country. on a national level, not appealing to - facing our country. on a national level, not appealing to sectionsl facing our country. on a national. level, not appealing to sections of the electorate, _ level, not appealing to sections of the electorate, but _ level, not appealing to sections of the electorate, but really- level, not appealing to sections of the electorate, but really identifyl the electorate, but really identify the electorate, but really identify the challenges _ the electorate, but really identify the challenges which _ the electorate, but really identify the challenges which our - the electorate, but really identify the challenges which our country| the challenges which our country faces— the challenges which our country faces and — the challenges which our country faces and coming _ the challenges which our country faces and coming up— the challenges which our country faces and coming up with - the challenges which our country faces and coming up with the - the challenges which our country i faces and coming up with the right answers— faces and coming up with the right answers which— faces and coming up with the right answers which will— faces and coming up with the right answers which will benefit - answers which will benefit everybody. _ answers which will benefit everybody-— answers which will benefit eve bod. ., ., answers which will benefit eve bod. ., . ., everybody. thank you, all three of ou, for everybody. thank you, all three of you. for being _ everybody. thank you, all three of you, for being with _ everybody. thank you, all three of you, for being with us. _ everybody. thank you, all three of you, for being with us. it - everybody. thank you, all three of you, for being with us. it is - you, for being with us. it is interesting it seems to be the move interesting it seems to be the move in the tory party towards taking a longer time. in the tory party towards taking a longertime. lots in the tory party towards taking a longer time. lots of you have been in touch on important weekend. rosie keedy told us it is such a relief to hear grown—up politicians like jonathan reynolds and andy burnham. it feels like a new dawn. thank you so much for watching today. thank you to my trio at the desk. and thanks for spending your sunday morning with us as the new

government gets going. labour is savouring its victory right now. but they shouldn't be under any illusions about what lies ahead. we've heard this morning already the tricky demands that face the steel industry. what will the government do? across the bbc today there'll be coverage of the prime minister's visits to scotland and northern ireland. i'll be with paddy o'connell later for sunday's newscast on bbc sounds, and you can catch up with anything from these momentous few days, as ever, on iplayer. i'll look forward to seeing you next sunday. same time, same place.

your party, michael, how should they have handled nigel farage live from london, this is bbc news. the polls are open — voters in france cast their ballots in the second round of a snap election, with the far—right national rally hoping for an historic victory. the uk's new prime minister,

keir starmer, will visit edinburgh today, at the start of a tour of the uk's nations. what next for the conservatives after the losses in the uk general election? a former minister says the party failed on what it said it would deliver for the country. we didn't have a good enough diagnosis ofjust how broken some of our public services were and we didn't have the willingness to take the tough decisions necessary to deliver for the british the tough decisions necessary to deliverfor the british public. the gaza health ministry says an israeli strike on a school has killed at least 16 people and wounded more than 50. growing calls from senior members ofjoe biden's party, who want him to step aside from the us presidential contest in november. and england fans overjoyed after the team beat switzerland to make it to the semifinals of euro '2a, but only after penalties. they will face the netherlands.