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exit polls. what let me show you the exit polls. what about this? these are projections, i should stress, taken from a sample of the votes that were cast. the new popular front, of the votes that were cast. the new popularfront, 170—190 of the votes that were cast. the new popular front, 170—190 seats. of the votes that were cast. the new popularfront, 170—190 seats. a sample, 150—170. the rally, the republican rally, rassemblement national, the rally for marine le pen, 135-155, national, the rally for marine le pen, 135—155, in third. and the republicans. so, from the first round to the second round, it looks as if the rally have been relegated from first to third position. you are right- _ from first to third position. you are right. that _ from first to third position. you are right. that was _ from first to third position. 7m, are right. that was the surprise that we have tonight compare to what we had after last sunday's results. but there are two levels here. the
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first one is, yes, to understand that the national rally will not lead france. jordan will not become president tomorrow. —— margaret jordan bardella will not become president tomorrow. but it is double the number of mps they will have. there are people down on the balconies that are applauding, beating their horns. is there celebration in the streets here amongst some. obviously paris is a little bit different to the rural communities around france. given that the republican front that has been put in place to stop it getting power. been put in place to stop it getting ower, ., , , been put in place to stop it getting ower. ., , , ,., been put in place to stop it getting ower. ., , , y., ., power. probably you had in mind when ou looked power. probably you had in mind when you looked at — power. probably you had in mind when you looked at the _ power. probably you had in mind when you looked at the polls _ power. probably you had in mind when you looked at the polls that _ power. probably you had in mind when you looked at the polls that we - power. probably you had in mind when you looked at the polls that we had - you looked at the polls that we had between the two rounds, when voters are from national rally were asked about their feeling about it, and there was hope. you remember that national rally voters were to say
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how angry they were, but this time it was different. a large proportion of them did say, "we have hope that it could happen. it could be our turn. it could be our round." so, yes, that is important for the politicians now to hear what has been said, and not to forget. let me “ust been said, and not to forget. let me just reiterate — been said, and not to forget. let me just reiterate the _ been said, and not to forget. let me just reiterate the results _ been said, and not to forget. let me just reiterate the results for - just reiterate the results for people justjoining just reiterate the results for peoplejustjoining us. the new popularfront, the peoplejustjoining us. the new popular front, the left alliance, including the hard left group of jean—luc melenchon, the socialists, the greens and the communists, which was brought together, they are on 170-190 was brought together, they are on 170—190 seats. there are the top of the pile. mr macron�*s. and any national rally. let's go to stalingrad and join as a day machinery. with a new popular front group, what is the reaction been
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like there?— group, what is the reaction been like there? christian, it has been ure “0 like there? christian, it has been pure joy here- — like there? christian, it has been pure joy here- i _ like there? christian, it has been pure joy here. i am _ like there? christian, it has been pure joy here. i am holding - like there? christian, it has been pure joy here. i am holding my. purejoy here. iam holding my earpiece because i can barely hear you. there were screams as soon as this result came in. speaking to people before this, they were not expecting it. each timejordan bardella's name has been mentioned, the new face of the rassemblement national, the far right, on the tv screen behind me where they have been showing french media, french broadcasters the entire night, each time his name have been mentioned there have been two. and that sound ofjoy is one you did not hear until those results came in. and everyone here, they are not the happiest of bedfellows. i spoke to one person... applause they are looking at the results and they are cheering, shouting slogans that i cannot repeat on tv.-
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that i cannot repeat on tv. listen to that booing — that i cannot repeat on tv. listen to that booing right _ that i cannot repeat on tv. listen to that booing right now, - that i cannot repeat on tv. listen to that booing right now, but - that i cannot repeat on tv. listen | to that booing right now, but they are still not satisfied with the amount of support the far right has still gained. but in general, it is clear that this is a victory, that this alliance has worked and that they have managed to keep the far right at. they are chanting right now. they are chanting anti—fascist slogans right now. it is a victory for them. jean—luc melenchon is expected to speak here soon. i can come christian. i expected to speak here soon. i can come christian.— come christian. i was “ust going to sa , ou come christian. i was “ust going to say. you said h come christian. i was “ust going to say, you said that — come christian. i was “ust going to say, you said that it _ come christian. i wasjust going to say, you said that it was _ come christian. i wasjust going to say, you said that it was brought l say, you said that it was brought together to see off the rally. we
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will maybe get the view of our panellist here with us. how tightly this sticks together on the other side of the vote. do the socialists and the greens stick withjean—luc melenchon? because their platform is very different. melenchon? because their platform is very different-— very different. jean-luc melenchon has taken the _ very different. jean-luc melenchon has taken the stage. _ very different. jean-luc melenchon has taken the stage. inside, - very different. jean-luc melenchon has taken the stage. inside, i - has taken the stage. inside, i believe, everyone is watching it on the screen behind me, so you may hear some more screaming. but to your point, not everyone supports this man. one woman i spoke to, i mentioned this, she said that she was fed to socialism out of the bottle from birth. this was not someone that she would typically support, but she saw him as the only option to keep the far right at bay. some people here swore they would never vote forjean—luc melenchon and his party, and in terms of
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whether the greens, the socialists could cooperate withjean—luc melenchon, that remains to be seen. he insists that if he ever came to power, he would put the new popular front�*s agenda front, that is what he would fight for. but they don't believe that. they think it is just words. and certainly, the centrist, emmanuel macron, his prime minister, they rejected any idea of working withjean—luc melenchon. so it is farfrom a simple withjean—luc melenchon. so it is far from a simple future from here. thank you very much for that. i will just pick up that thought about jean—luc melenchon, who has taken to the stage there. emmanuel macron has made it very clear that he will will never become prime minister of the country. he called for a moment of clarification, but how much clarification, but how much clarification will have at these
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first projections question mark i do not see a government out of this at the moment. where do you find a government out of all of these different groups? in government out of all of these different groups?— government out of all of these different groups? in france, since charles de — different groups? in france, since charles de gaulle, _ different groups? in france, since charles de gaulle, you _ different groups? in france, since charles de gaulle, you do - different groups? in france, since charles de gaulle, you do not - different groups? in france, sincel charles de gaulle, you do not need to go to the parliament and get a confidence vote. you do not need it. you can be kicked out by an absolute majority of the voters but you will never havejean—luc melenchon mps voting with marine le pen mps. do you understand that? they can keep the same prime minister. and you understand that? they can keep the same prime minister.— the same prime minister. and try to find coalition — the same prime minister. and try to find coalition parties? _ the same prime minister. and try to find coalition parties? there - the same prime minister. and try to find coalition parties? there is - the same prime minister. and try to find coalition parties? there is a - find coalition parties? there is a trick called _ find coalition parties? there is a trick called 49-3. _ find coalition parties? there is a trick called 49-3. 0k, _ find coalition parties? there is a trick called 49-3. ok, let's - find coalition parties? there is a
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trick called 49-3. ok, let's have find coalition parties? there is a i trick called 49-3. ok, let's have a ruick trick called 49-3. ok, let's have a quick listen _ trick called 49-3. ok, let's have a quick listen to _ trick called 49-3. ok, let's have a quick listen to jean-luc _ trick called 49-3. ok, let's have a l quick listen to jean-luc melenchon, quick listen to jean—luc melenchon, he quick listen tojean—luc melenchon, he is speaking now. melenchon speaks french i thought we did have some translation on that. we do not have translation on that. we do not have translation on that. we do not have translation on that. we will try to get a translation of that for you. key points from jean—luc melenchon's speech there. let's go to mark loewen. i would suggest that they made where you are as little more subdued? ., . ~ , ,
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subdued? correct? absolutely. there was a bit of — subdued? correct? absolutely. there was a bit of a — subdued? correct? absolutely. there was a bit of a stunned _ subdued? correct? absolutely. there was a bit of a stunned silence, - subdued? correct? absolutely. there was a bit of a stunned silence, a - was a bit of a stunned silence, a tiny splattering of applause, trying to reassure themselves when the exit polls came out. it looks that the far right, the national rally has fallen far short of what they were hoping for. far short of the numbers needed to form a majority or indeed to be able to form even a minority government. if these exit polls are to be... and we are getting more exit polls every few minutes. it is suggesting that they national rally has been beaten comprehensively, not only by the left—wing coalition, the new popular front, but by the centrist coalition of emmanuel macron. jean—luc melenchon, as you said wasjust speaking. macron. jean—luc melenchon, as you said was just speaking. i was trying to decipher what he was saying. but clearly, there will be now the numbers for the left that would put them in quite a strong position potentially to see if they could
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somehow form some kind of republican front as they call it in france government in some way. that will be discussed in the hours to come. as for the national rally, their vote has collapsed from the first round when they got much, much higher. some estimations in the share of the vote that they got for the first round put them kind of quite close to 280-289, but the round put them kind of quite close to 280—289, but the exit polls putting them down that 150—180 at the moment, which is far short of the moment, which is far short of the magic number of 289 to form an absolute majority. so clearly what we can say is that the strategy of the opposition to drop out, rally behind the unity candidate to try to block the far right, looks like it has worked. the far right, it does not look at this stage, will be able to form a government, and i will be a huge relief for the other side of the france who would be horrified by it, but absolute frustration and
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disappointment for the national rally. disappointment for the national rall. ~ disappointment for the national rall . ~ �* disappointment for the national rall. ~ �* , ., , rally. mark, i'm sorry to interrupt ou. we rally. mark, i'm sorry to interrupt you- we do _ rally. mark, i'm sorry to interrupt you. we do have _ rally. mark, i'm sorry to interrupt you. we do have some _ rally. mark, i'm sorry to interrupt| you. we do have some translation. translation:— you. we do have some translation. translation: ., ., ., ., , translation: from now on, the voters have decided _ translation: from now on, the voters have decided between _ translation: from now on, the voters have decided between two _ translation: from now on, the voters have decided between two radically - have decided between two radically opposed plans, the new popularfront is ready to government. the only alternative which was built consistent with an organised structured programme. its components represent the left united, and they have been at the height of history. and in its manner, this party has stepped aside from the trap laid once more. this party has saved the
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country once more. this party can begin its work, it is ecological and social work, which our people, which our time, which our world, which our europe needs so dearly. friends, comrades, men and women across the whole country, you have waited anxiously for this moment and we have fought the prognosis thanks to your commitment, thanks to your loyalty. listen to the poets are singing for france as the sun rises in the province. there is something in the province. there is something in the province. there is something in the air. there is transparency, we feel the taste of happiness. this is my france.
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quite poetic from jean—luc melenchon at stalingrad in paris, euphoric tonight having relegated the national rally into third place. we just heard there from mark lowen at the rally headquarters how subdued the rally headquarters how subdued the atmosphere is there. we have not yet seen marine le pen giving her response to what has happened. with me still, thoughts on these initial results. remember, they are only initial projections at the moment. pick that up, whatjean—luc melenchon saying there, that the left is united. does it feel united to you? to me, it looks like a disparate group of parties that came together in an emergency, but legislatively they are not that cohesive, are they? he legislatively they are not that cohesive, are they? he doesn't talk about the steps _ cohesive, are they? he doesn't talk about the steps they _ cohesive, are they? he doesn't talk about the steps they need - cohesive, are they? he doesn't talk about the steps they need to - cohesive, are they? he doesn't talk about the steps they need to be - about the steps they need to be taken. we have come up with this assembly, no majority. france is absolutely not used to that. macron's party had almost come so
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they could build things. but being so close to the overall majority, macron wasn't able to make happen everything that he wanted to make happen. here, we have a partition in three blocks where probably none of those blocks will have 200 mp5, where you would need 292 have an overall majority. ok, he talks about the left, but the same question about the other parts of what we have now in the national assembly. how will they mingle, find new ways of working? we are re—entering uncharted territory here. it of working? we are re-entering uncharted territory here.- of working? we are re-entering uncharted territory here. it may be that the prime _ uncharted territory here. it may be that the prime minister _ uncharted territory here. it may be that the prime minister stays. - uncharted territory here. it may be | that the prime minister stays. what does it leave the president? people did not like to gamble that he took, they said it was reckless. his own party didn't like it. and yet, what
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he has done any space of four or five weeks, the rally finished at the top of the european elections, now they are third. is that a gamble has worked?— now they are third. is that a gamble has worked? , ., , ,., , has worked? yes, i mean, everybody said that macron _ has worked? yes, i mean, everybody said that macron is _ has worked? yes, i mean, everybody said that macron is finished _ has worked? yes, i mean, everybody said that macron is finished in - said that macron is finished in politics. — said that macron is finished in politics, he will not enter in the history— politics, he will not enter in the history books and so on. but actually, _ history books and so on. but actually, his gamble is not bad, because, — actually, his gamble is not bad, because, yes, quite a good number, he is _ because, yes, quite a good number, he is number— because, yes, quite a good number, he is numbertwo, quite a because, yes, quite a good number, he is number two, quite a good number— he is number two, quite a good numberof— he is number two, quite a good number of seats. he has blocked the national_ number of seats. he has blocked the national front who arrived at number one in_ national front who arrived at number one in the _ national front who arrived at number one in the european elections. and he will— one in the european elections. and he will make probably an alliance with the — he will make probably an alliance with the socialist party, and you have _ with the socialist party, and you have to — with the socialist party, and you have to remember that he himself, when _ have to remember that he himself, when he _ have to remember that he himself, when he was younger, he was a member of the _ when he was younger, he was a member of the socialist party and he was even _ of the socialist party and he was even a _ of the socialist party and he was even a minister for the socialist partx _ even a minister for the socialist party. so. — even a minister for the socialist party. 50, yes, he played well his
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alliances, — party. 50, yes, he played well his alliances, so it is not the end of him _ alliances, so it is not the end of him. alliances, so it is not the end of him, y., ., alliances, so it is not the end of him. i. ., , , ., him. so you are suggesting that it is actually an _ him. so you are suggesting that it is actually an easy _ him. so you are suggesting that it is actually an easy step _ him. so you are suggesting that it is actually an easy step for- him. so you are suggesting that it is actually an easy step for him i him. so you are suggesting that it is actually an easy step for him to | is actually an easy step for him to go to the left? you don't think so? no, i think it is very hard step because voters, the french population, french political opinion is not probably happy with seeing him coming back to the left. after two years he has been obviously working more on the right side. so, coming back and saying, "guy's, i am going to do something quite new and come back to the left now," i don't think so. of course, he could do a few things. think so. of course, he could do a few things-— few things. just to be clear, are ou both few things. just to be clear, are you both saying _ few things. just to be clear, are you both saying that _ few things. just to be clear, are you both saying that this - few things. just to be clear, are i you both saying that this becomes almost a rainbow coalition within the assembly?— almost a rainbow coalition within the assembly?- you - almost a rainbow coalition within the assembly? yeah. you move forward lerislation the assembly? yeah. you move forward legislation by — the assembly? je—i you move forward legislation by legislation the assembly? ie—"i you move forward legislation by legislation and you try to get a majority? but
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legislation by legislation and you try to get a majority?— try to get a ma'ority? but we are not germans — try to get a majority? but we are not germans and _ try to get a majority? but we are not germans and we _ try to get a majority? but we are not germans and we are - try to get a majority? but we are not germans and we are not - try to get a majority? but we are| not germans and we are not used try to get a majority? but we are - not germans and we are not used to it. ., not germans and we are not used to it. . , ., not germans and we are not used to it. . ,., ., .,, not germans and we are not used to it. . , ., ., ., , it it. that is a enormous fudge. it could take _ it. that is a enormous fudge. it could take may _ it. that is a enormous fudge. it could take may be _ it. that is a enormous fudge. it could take may be weeks, - it. that is a enormous fudge. it - could take may be weeks, months, and after that i'm not sure it could be stable enough. the after that i'm not sure it could be stable enough.— after that i'm not sure it could be stable enou:h. , ., , stable enough. the power in germany is with the parliament. _ stable enough. the power in germany is with the parliament. power - stable enough. the power in germany is with the parliament. power in - is with the parliament. power in france _ is with the parliament. power in france is — is with the parliament. power in france is with the president, executive _ france is with the president, executive power. it is totally different. because in germany, you have to _ different. because in germany, you have to have relations because they power _ have to have relations because they power is _ have to have relations because they power is the bundestag. in france, power— power is the bundestag. in france, power is _ power is the bundestag. in france, power is the — power is the bundestag. in france, power is the elysee. but power is the bundestag. in france, power is the elysee.— power is the elysee. but it reflects on the president. _ power is the elysee. but it reflects on the president. if— power is the elysee. but it reflects on the president. if the _ power is the elysee. but it reflects on the president. if the assemblyl on the president. if the assembly does not function, if the assembly does not function, if the assembly does not function, it reflects on the president. i does not function, it reflects on the president.— does not function, it reflects on the president. i can bet that the resident the president. i can bet that the president will _ the president. i can bet that the president will not _ the president. i can bet that the president will not resign. - the president. i can bet that the president will not resign. so - the president. i can bet that the| president will not resign. so you think he is _ president will not resign. so you think he is in _ president will not resign. so you think he is in a _ president will not resign. so you think he is in a stronger - president will not resign. so you think he is in a stronger positionj think he is in a stronger position tonight? then he was when he called this election?—
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this election? certainly, yes. he is in a weaker— this election? certainly, yes. he is in a weaker position _ this election? certainly, yes. he is in a weaker position than - this election? certainly, yes. he is in a weaker position than after - this election? certainly, yes. he is in a weaker position than after the j in a weaker position than after the european — in a weaker position than after the european elections because he could have said. _ european elections because he could have said, ok, it is the european elections. — have said, ok, it is the european elections. i— have said, ok, it is the european elections, i go on with french matters _ elections, i go on with french matters. but he is in a stronger position— matters. but he is in a stronger position after the first round. he is still— position after the first round. he is still in — position after the first round. he is still in politics. he is not out of the — is still in politics. he is not out of the game. is still in politics. he is not out of the game-— is still in politics. he is not out ofthe came. �*, , ., of the game. let's bring in someone who knows marine _ of the game. let's bring in someone who knows marine le _ of the game. let's bring in someone who knows marine le pen _ of the game. let's bring in someone who knows marine le pen quite - of the game. let's bring in someone| who knows marine le pen quite well. catherine fieschi, who's a political analyst and author. where does the rally go from here? i think it is very interesting because the numbers on the eve of the first round were such, and the rhetoric coming from rassemblement national, from jordan bardella and from marine le pen over this past week, it really has been extremely bombastic. even though, let's face it, they
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will have increased the number of seats, they will have gone from 88 to something like 120—130. we do not have the final numbers yet. nevertheless, this is going to feel like a loss. that is the first thing. and then i think the second thing. and then i think the second thing that is really important is the fact that they had already nevertheless tried to prepare for this kind of scenario, arguing that in fact they are the victims of a stitch up. and jordan bardella went on the radio a couple of days ago and said this whole republican front in order to block access to power, it is because "we are considered second class voters, second—class citizens," so my sense is they are going to capitalise on this. their take on it is going to be that present macron's stitch up worked and the system is rigged against them. �* . . . , and the system is rigged against them. ., ., them. and actually come out when you
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look across europe, _ them. and actually come out when you look across europe, you _ them. and actually come out when you look across europe, you see _ them. and actually come out when you look across europe, you see that - look across europe, you see that trend in many, many countries. if you look at the netherlands, the nationalists of geert wilders went backwards and then took power. afd, similarly. they now have control of the eastern states in regional elections in germany. are you saying that the trend here is that, actually, the rally is getting stronger election by election, and the disappointment of what has happened here for their supporters will in some way galvanise them? i suppose it can be seen in two ways, one is that potentially marine le pen will be questioned in terms of her leadership of the party. why were they not more ready, for example, they kept going on and on, asking for the asengi to be resolved, asking for a vote of no confidence, and then it turned out they were scrambling to find decent candidates. so they may get a little
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bit of the blame. we have to keep in mind, and i certainly hope that whatever coalition emerges in the next few weeks and whatever decision president macron makes, i think we need to keep in mind that in 2022 rassemblement national had 4 million voters and on the eve of the first round of these legislative elections a week ago, it is climb to 10.6 million voters, right? so this is not a problem that i think can be swept under the carpet. i think it is something that is going to have to be quite systematically addressed. personally, i'm delighted that their momentum has been broken, because they looked unstoppable. then it turns out they are not unstoppable, the system in many ways does encourage democratic majorities and democratic voices, but nevertheless i do not think that we can sweep 10.6 million votes under
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the carpet. so i think that whatever emerges in the next few weeks, they have a huge responsibility to face, to take on board some of what these voters were trying to say. i to take on board some of what these voters were trying to say.— voters were trying to say. i think ou are voters were trying to say. i think you are absolutely _ voters were trying to say. i think you are absolutely right, - voters were trying to say. i think you are absolutely right, but - voters were trying to say. i thinkj you are absolutely right, but you make a very important point, and it is important for our viewers around the world to recognise this, when you put the voters of the centre—right anti—centre and the left and the hard left altogether, there is a majority that is not nationalist and populist here in france. that is an important point to make, is it not? it is france. that is an important point to make, is it not?— to make, is it not? it is a hugely important _ to make, is it not? it is a hugely important point _ to make, is it not? it is a hugely important point to _ to make, is it not? it is a hugely important point to make. - to make, is it not? it is a hugely important point to make. it - to make, is it not? it is a hugely important point to make. it is i to make, is it not? it is a hugely l important point to make. it is also important point to make. it is also important because over the past few weeks, the past ten years even, the proportion of french citizens who were willing to think or admit to thinking that they thought maybe rassemblement national was just another regular party, this proportion was increasing. so i think it is very reassuring for the rest of europe, for the french
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public itself, to see that actually there are still some red lines that cannot be easily crossed. i think that that is absolutely crucial. i just think that these voices cannot just think that these voices cannot just be relegated. the other thing i think we need to keep in mind, and some of this was brought up by some of your previous panellists, is what kind of majority, what kind of government can be carved out of these moderate voices. because they may all agree on the fact that they wanted to block the path of rassemblement national, but they do not agree on very much else. which means that a sort of great rainbow coalition is going to be very hard to put together, notjust because of an absence of political tradition to that effect but actually because this is a polarised country, this is
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a fragmented country, and they are going to have to do some of this work to try to carve out chunks of the moderates from the socialist party, chunks of the moderates from the centre—right, to try and put a functioning government together, whether it is a government of national unity, which is difficult to put together, or maybe a more technical government. that is going to be difficult. it is going to be a struggle. butjust to end on this point, let's face it, it is precisely what emmanuel macron had in mind when he dissolve the national assembly. we had two objectives. one was to relegate rassemblement national as far down the polls as he could, and he has done a pretty good job because they have come in third. and the second was to force the groups in the national assembly to work together. and this is something that he hadn't been able to do since 2022 when he lost his absolute majority and his
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government lost their absolute majority. and it looks as though he has kind of force them to come together and try and carve out this majority. but i think the next few weeks are going to be interesting. catherine, thank you very much. just for our viewers that are joining us, we have got another of these projections. this one from m6 rtl, which does tend to echo the one we got about 20 minutes ago. it has the new popular front on 200—221i, ensemble on 150—182, quite broad ranges. the republicans, 50—75. there are the centre—right in this? we mightjust pick that up. the national rally on 110—158. when you look at that, and catherine was just saying that he wanted to force these parties to work together, what do
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you want to hear from parties to work together, what do you want to hearfrom emmanuel macron tonight? because it seems to me he has to address the nation tonight. we are all scratching our heads as to what this means and what heads as to what this means and what he is going to do next. i heads as to what this means and what he is going to do next.— he is going to do next. i don't know what i want — he is going to do next. i don't know what i want to _ he is going to do next. i don't know what i want to hear _ he is going to do next. i don't know what i want to hear from _ he is going to do next. i don't know| what i want to hear from emmanuel macron. probably he will say if you things like he is quite proud of what he is doing, so he might come back and say that is exactly what he planned, which is not what everyone had in mind a week ago. but he will probably come back and say, "i wanted a clarification, now i have it, now i will let all of the political parties and politicians work together to come with me or it to me with a solution, when something that is acceptable and that the french population can accept." that is maybe what is going to say. but i'm not sure again that thatis to say. but i'm not sure again that that is possible. it will take time. the point that catherine makes there
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is that when you look at the result, however you slice it, the national rally is growing. it is gone from 80 seats and now it may be up near 120-130. , , ., ., , , 120-130. there is still a glass ceilinu 120-130. there is still a glass ceiling to _ 120-130. there is still a glass ceiling to get _ 120-130. there is still a glass ceiling to get to _ 120-130. there is still a glass ceiling to get to power. - 120-130. there is still a glass ceiling to get to power. we . 120-130. there is still a glass i ceiling to get to power. we have this expression, glass ceiling. they were _ this expression, glass ceiling. they were very— this expression, glass ceiling. they were very close to power but they will never — were very close to power but they will never get it, because nobody makes _ will never get it, because nobody makes alliances with them. they are isolated _ makes alliances with them. they are isolated on— makes alliances with them. they are isolated on the far right. but makes alliances with them. they are isolated on the far right.— isolated on the far right. but is it then incumbent _ isolated on the far right. but is it then incumbent on _ isolated on the far right. but is it then incumbent on the _ isolated on the far right. but is it i then incumbent on the mainstream parties, a bit like what is happening in the uk at the moment with the conservative party being pulled to the right. look at what happened with the head of the republican party, his dalliance with the rally, he split his party, they get barely 60 seats in this. where are they? where are the centrist parties that are going to take on the extremes?—
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parties that are going to take on the extremes? , ., ~ the extremes? they were quite weak in the previous _ the extremes? they were quite weak in the previous assembly. _ the extremes? they were quite weak in the previous assembly. they - the extremes? they were quite weak in the previous assembly. they were | in the previous assembly. they were thrown out more or less by an sample, by macron. they are coming back, they are weaker, and despite the fact that some of them went with ciotti. they have been weak for quite a long time. but with ciotti. they have been weak for quite a long time.— quite a long time. but this does not chance the quite a long time. but this does not change the trend _ quite a long time. but this does not change the trend we _ quite a long time. but this does not change the trend we are _ quite a long time. but this does not change the trend we are seeing - change the trend we are seeing across europe, the mainstream parties under severe pressure from the extremes. and on the centre—right, a party that is driven straight down the middle and now into parts. the way i see it is that european elections where voters want to give a message to the government.
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we want more order, more order in the streets. — we want more order, more order in the streets, on our borders, in the treasury — the streets, on our borders, in the treasury it— the streets, on our borders, in the treasury it is— the streets, on our borders, in the treasury. it is confirmed in the first— treasury. it is confirmed in the first round _ treasury. it is confirmed in the first round of the legislative elections that don't microp it was a total surprise when macron decided that. total surprise when macron decided that but _ total surprise when macron decided that. but when it comes to giving the reat— that. but when it comes to giving the real power, it is not a message, it is giving _ the real power, it is not a message, it is giving the power, because the prime _ it is giving the power, because the prime minister in france, he can govern— prime minister in france, he can govern if— prime minister in france, he can govern if he _ prime minister in france, he can govern if he has an absolute majority _ govern if he has an absolute majority. now there is a kind of apparently glass ceiling. let's speak to christine ockrent, journalist. a regularface on a regular face on the a regularface on the bbc he a regular face on the bbc he was digesting some of what we are seeing in these projections. just hang on for me, if you would, becausejordan bardella, the 28—year—old who couldn't become the prime minister for the national rally, he is
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speaking. translation: ., , , ., translation: contempt shown about our rivals. people _ translation: contempt shown about our rivals. people have _ translation: contempt shown about our rivals. people have taken - translation: contempt shown about our rivals. people have taken all- our rivals. people have taken all means to stop french people choosing different politics. but today, rassemblement national has had the best result it has ever had. u nfortu nately, unfortunately, an alliance of dishonour and electoral arrangement passed by emmanuel macron and gabrielle et al. have led to policies. we were ahead in european elections and last week in the first round. tonight, these electoral
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