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and upholding their right for self—defence. president biden, for him, it's business as usual. - it's the big nato summit, - and he wants to focus on that, and he wants to show that he can be |the world leader that he says he is. | but of course, he's going to be scrutinised in a way _ that he has probably never been scrutinised before. . all that coming up. first, the latest headlines: democrats in congress hold a series of meetings to discuss the future of president biden�*s faltering re—election campaign, as criticism continues of his disastrous debate performance aginst donald trump. medics in southern gaza say at least 29 people have been killed and dozens more wounded in an israeli air strike that hit a camp for displaced people near a school in abasan. israel says it's looking
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into the reports. the european space agency's new ariane 6 rocket has lifted off from french guiana on its maiden flight. it's intended to give european governments and firms independent access to space. and the first semifinal of the euros between spain and france is taking place right now. france took the lead but spain came back. spain currently 2—1 up. we had to washington in the us. leaders are arriving for this crucial nato summit. us presidentjoe biden to speak. a big test for him. the focus on nato. the security organisation is marking 75 years — this week, the focus showing they're united still in helping ukraine
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combat russian aggression. us secretary of state antony blinken has met with nato secretary general jens stoltenberg at the us state department — here's what they had to say. what's to be said in the coming days about the concrete achievements of this summit, i won't get ahead of those, you'll be hearing about those in the next few days. but again, suffice it to say we have an alliance that's stronger than it's been, larger than it's been and ready to deal with the challenges of our time. we will make decisions on ukraine, and i think what we have seen over the last days demonstrates the need to step up our support for ukraine. we have seen new russian missile attacks against cities, against a child hospital. many children and civilians have been killed, and itjust demonstrates the brutality of russia's war of aggression against ukraine and the importance of us supporting ukraine and upholding their right for self—defence. earlier, us secretary of state antony blinken met with ukrainian foreign minister dmytro
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kuleba. kyiv has appealed for more air defences and sustained security guarantees. kyiv�*s also seeking that nato membership. appears no movement on that now. but a new series of measures for ukraine have been announced. here's white house national security adviserjake sullivan. in the coming days, nato will also announce robust new measures of support, including a new nato military command in germany, led by a 3—star general, that will launch a training, equipping and force developing programme for ukrainian troops, a pledge from all allies to collectively provide ukraine with at least a0 billion euros worth of security assistance this next year and a new nato senior representative in kyiv appointed by secretary—general stoltenberg, who you will hear from in a moment, who will deepen ukraine's institutional relationship with the alliance and serve as the focal point for nato�*s engagement with senior ukrainian officials.
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i'm joined by our correspondent in washington, helena humphrey. talk us through what's going to happen now. talk us through what's going to happen "ow-— talk us through what's going to happen now. talk us through what's going to ha en now. ~ ., . , . , happen now. world leaders have “ust started happen now. world leaders have 'ust started arriving �* happen now. world leaders have 'ust started arriving here i happen now. world leaders have 'ust started arriving here at i happen now. world leaders have 'ust started arriving here at the i happen now. world leaders have just started arriving here at the mellon i started arriving here at the mellon auditorium just a few blocks away from the white house where president biden is high stake address, i think it's fair to say, perhaps warming up there the presidents own marine band for this address i've been taking a look through their programme which is left on every seat for them giving some indication as to what we can expect to hear from giving some indication as to what we can expect to hearfrom president biden. one line standing out in his message in this programme, reminding him that nato founding principle of all for one and one for all. that defence pact to come to the mutual defence pact to come to the mutual defence of each other. i think that gives us a hint as to what we can expect to hear from gives us a hint as to what we can expect to hearfrom president biden on that stage tonight really trying to make a stark contrast from
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comments that we've heard from the former president donald trump who said back in february that for any of the allies paying less then 2% of their defence budget for gdp, russia could "do what the hell they like to those countries." he hasn't spoken glowingly about nato, even whether he would pull the united states out of that alliance. all eyes on ukraine. the us secretary of state entity blanket was meeting with his ukrainian counterpart after which he said we can expect to hear about a strong packet of support for ukraine. president zelensky has come to the us capitol with those scenes of what happened in kyiv at the children's hospital. making that call for more badly needed air defense. also expecting to hear more details about how ukraine will enter nato. there was some discontent at the last summit, to the extent the
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invite wasn't extended then. where are expected to hear about a bridge fort membership. and questions being asked how do you trump prove all of this when it isn't a binding mechanism and what could a trump presidency potentially mean for the future of nato? of course from president biden and himself i think every word, his appearance, how he talks, and he stumbles will be closely watched at a time when there have been growing calls for him to step out of the democratic race. helena, thank you very much for that. we will take a moment to reflect on joe that. we will take a moment to reflect onjoe biden. in the last hour or so the white house at its usual briefing of course are plenty of questions aboutjoe biden and his performance. a north american correspondent was there. we will try to speak to know mia and just a moment. great to see you. only you
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can hear us. talk us through what happened in that briefing. == can hear us. talk us through what happened in that briefing. -- know mia cabal. happened in that briefing. -- know mia cabal- a _ happened in that briefing. -- know mia cabal. a bit— happened in that briefing. -- know mia cabal. a bit more _ happened in that briefing. -- know mia cabal. a bit more muted - happened in that briefing. -- know mia cabal. a bit more muted that l happened in that briefing. -- know| mia cabal. a bit more muted that it was yesterday. it got very combative with the american press really going for the press secretary, almost accusing the white house of holding back information about his health. there's also been criticism of the american press by other quarter saying that they essentially haven't been doing theirjob by not questioning the health concerns around mr biden a lot earlier. while the president wants to focus on nato, he wants to use this as an opportunity to prove that he can do thejob. of course opportunity to prove that he can do the job. of course questions were largely dominated with those questions about his health, clarification about the neurologist that visited the white house several times this year. but the white house press secretary doubled down saying that the president is going nowhere.
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and these meetings that were held, housing democrats and senate democrats on close meetings were expressing concern. as far as the white house is concerned there are more people that packed the president about more people in the party that want him to run and so as far as they are concerned this matter is closed. i very much doubt that they will get what they want in that they will get what they want in that respect. the that they will get what they want in that reaped-— that respect. the scrutiny will continue- _ that respect. the scrutiny will continue. thank _ that respect. the scrutiny will continue. thank you - that respect. the scrutiny will continue. thank you very - that respect. the scrutiny will. continue. thank you very much that respect. the scrutiny will- continue. thank you very much for that. big issues there. let's bring in our panel for the show. susie boniface, daily mirrorfor the political scientists and rand corporation also joining us for this part of the discussion rose got milik, former us diplomat who served as deputy secretary general of nato from 2016 until 2019. thank you all for coming onto the program. let's
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start with the substance of nato itself with the rose, if i could start with you. things are about to kick off there, that 75th anniversary. what strikes you as the politicians start to arrive? in anniversary. what strikes you as the politicians start to arrive?— politicians start to arrive? in some wa s it politicians start to arrive? in some ways it looks _ politicians start to arrive? in some ways it looks very _ politicians start to arrive? in some ways it looks very familiar. - politicians start to arrive? in some ways it looks very familiar. the - ways it looks very familiar. the auditorium was also the site of the 70th anniversary in 2019 when i was still deppe terry secretary general. it's a celebration of the washington treaty which was signed in that room. which is the foundation of documents that really serve as a solid source of nato's coherence and strength over the year of the famous article five, for all. and it ensures that nato hangs together and being resolved to defend member states should they be faced with aggression. it is also served as a kind of spiritual tone for the
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alliance as well in terms of laying out core principles that are very important for the survival and further growth of the alliance. i think that celebrating as they do in that room, it's an important sign of nato's longevity but also its future potential. let nato's longevity but also its future otential. ., a nato's longevity but also its future otential. . , ., nato's longevity but also its future otential. ., ., potential. let me ask you about ukraine. potentially, _ potential. let me ask you about ukraine. potentially, of- potential. let me ask you about ukraine. potentially, of course. ukraine. potentially, of course we've heard already a series of announcements from washington about measures that no doubt will be welcomed by ukraine. what do you make of the state of play with ukraine and how much support nato is giving and how much could potentially be doing? i giving and how much could potentially be doing? i think it's very important _ potentially be doing? i think it's very important to _ potentially be doing? i think it's very important to parse - potentially be doing? i think it's very important to parse the - potentially be doing? i think it's l very important to parse the words potentially be doing? i think it's - very important to parse the words of jake sullivan, he spoke about the military command being established in germany and there's been a great argument inside nato about what this thing will mean for that would be a
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command, a mission? apparently the germans were quite nervous about calling it a mission. that was too serious and in military terms. the notion of a command support, the continuing technical assistance to ukraine on the military front and also to ensure coherent training for the ukrainian armed forces going forward. that's has a very strong message. i think what i am hearing out ofjake sullivan message. i think what i am hearing out of jake sullivan smiled is that the alliance has come to a very good place in terms of its consensus around continued long—term support for ukraine. also to ensure it it is centred in the alliance and not too dependent on the united states of america. that's an important point here. the alliance is looking for ways, you could call a trump proving that i really think about it as establishing the institutional basis for a long term cooperation among allies as the united states pivots to asia as well. we need to bear in mind the united states for a long
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time has been wanting to focus more on the long—term threat of china. and so having more leadership from the institution and other nato members will be important no matter what. . , . . members will be important no matter what. ., ,. ., g , members will be important no matter what. ., , ., what. fascinating. joan, 'ust on where the i what. fascinating. joan, 'ust on where the world * what. fascinating. joan, 'ust on where the world stands _ what. fascinating. joan, just on where the world stands right i what. fascinating. joan, just on i where the world stands right now, what. fascinating. joan, just on - where the world stands right now, 75 years a crucial anniversary to mark from nato's point of view. and crucial from their point of view to demonstrate that unity when it comes to ukraine. . demonstrate that unity when it comes to ukraine. , ~ , , to ukraine. yes. absolutely true. i think that what _ to ukraine. yes. absolutely true. i think that what president - to ukraine. yes. absolutely true. i think that what president biden i to ukraine. yes. absolutely true. i think that what president biden is| think that what president biden is going _ think that what president biden is going to _ think that what president biden is going to emphasise among other boys is the _ going to emphasise among other boys is the fact— going to emphasise among other boys is the fact that not only does the united _ is the fact that not only does the united states have a corp place in nato _ united states have a corp place in nato but — united states have a corp place in nato but nato has a core place in america's— nato but nato has a core place in america's security interest. he feels _ america's security interest. he feels very— america's security interest. he feels very deeply that that's a case for ukraine. i think he will take the opportunity to make this more of
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a case _ the opportunity to make this more of a case to— the opportunity to make this more of a case to sell nato to the american people _ a case to sell nato to the american people as _ a case to sell nato to the american people as well. particularly senses adversary— people as well. particularly senses adversary donald trump is very sceptical— adversary donald trump is very sceptical about nato, to put it mitdtx — sceptical about nato, to put it mitdtx i— sceptical about nato, to put it mildly. i wouldn't be surprised if president — mildly. i wouldn't be surprised if president biden recounts an antidote when i _ president biden recounts an antidote when i was _ president biden recounts an antidote when i was working in the senate foreign— when i was working in the senate foreign relations committee, this was a _ foreign relations committee, this was a few— foreign relations committee, this was a few weeks after the fall of the taliban and perhaps the best briefing — the taliban and perhaps the best briefing that he got in kabul was from _ briefing that he got in kabul was from british intelligence team which laid out _ from british intelligence team which laid out in _ from british intelligence team which laid out in exquisite detail the neighbourhood by neighbourhood, block _ neighbourhood by neighbourhood, block by _ neighbourhood by neighbourhood, block by block breakdown of where the population, the past two and was an president biden went away from that renewed with an appreciation for the _ that renewed with an appreciation for the fact that article five has only been— for the fact that article five has only been invoked once in all of nato's — only been invoked once in all of nato's history and it was to come to the defence — nato's history and it was to come to
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the defence of the united states. susie, _ the defence of the united states. susie, keir starmer on his way there for them so many world leaders are. what do you view as the top lines out of this nato summit, the key challenges? for out of this nato summit, the key challenges?— challenges? for keir starmer it's sim -l challenges? for keir starmer it's siml an challenges? for keir starmer it's simply an opportunity _ challenges? for keir starmer it's simply an opportunity to - challenges? for keir starmer it's simply an opportunity to be - challenges? for keir starmer it's| simply an opportunity to be there and speak— simply an opportunity to be there and speak at— simply an opportunity to be there and speak at the _ simply an opportunity to be there and speak at the top _ simply an opportunity to be there and speak at the top table, - simply an opportunity to be there and speak at the top table, to - simply an opportunity to be there and speak at the top table, to sit| and speak at the top table, to sit with the — and speak at the top table, to sit with the other— and speak at the top table, to sit with the other states _ and speak at the top table, to sit with the other states and - and speak at the top table, to sit with the other states and leaders around _ with the other states and leaders around the — with the other states and leaders around the world _ with the other states and leaders around the world and _ with the other states and leaders around the world and be - with the other states and leaders around the world and be won - with the other states and leaders around the world and be won at i with the other states and leaders . around the world and be won at the top table _ around the world and be won at the top table. thanks _ around the world and be won at the top table. thanks to _ around the world and be won at the top table. thanks to our— around the world and be won at the top table. thanks to our nuclear - top table. thanks to our nuclear deterrent — top table. thanks to our nuclear deterrent we _ top table. thanks to our nuclear deterrent we have _ top table. thanks to our nuclear deterrent we have a _ top table. thanks to our nuclear deterrent we have a special - deterrent we have a special relationship _ deterrent we have a special relationship and _ deterrent we have a special relationship and everything | deterrent we have a special - relationship and everything else. it comes— relationship and everything else. it comes down— relationship and everything else. it comes down to, _ relationship and everything else. it comes down to, i _ relationship and everything else. it comes down to, i think, _ relationship and everything else. it comes down to, i think, as - relationship and everything else. it comes down to, i think, as the - relationship and everything else. it i comes down to, i think, as the other speaker— comes down to, i think, as the other speaker said — comes down to, i think, as the other speaker said trying _ comes down to, i think, as the other speaker said trying to _ comes down to, i think, as the other speaker said trying to trump proof. speaker said trying to trump proof nato in _ speaker said trying to trump proof nato in the — speaker said trying to trump proof nato in the instance _ speaker said trying to trump proof nato in the instance that - speaker said trying to trump proof nato in the instance that possiblyi nato in the instance that possibly biden— nato in the instance that possibly biden loses— nato in the instance that possibly biden loses the _ nato in the instance that possibly biden loses the election - nato in the instance that possibly biden loses the election and - nato in the instance that possibly biden loses the election and youi biden loses the election and you have _ biden loses the election and you have someone _ biden loses the election and you have someone who's _ biden loses the election and you have someone who's going - biden loses the election and you have someone who's going to i biden loses the election and you| have someone who's going to be biden loses the election and you . have someone who's going to be on biden loses the election and you - have someone who's going to be on a major— have someone who's going to be on a major partner, — have someone who's going to be on a major partner, america, _ have someone who's going to be on a major partner, america, perhaps- major partner, america, perhaps someone — major partner, america, perhaps someone led _ major partner, america, perhaps someone led by— major partner, america, perhaps someone led by a _ major partner, america, perhaps someone led by a more - major partner, america, perhaps someone led by a more insular. someone led by a more insular attitude — someone led by a more insular attitude and _ someone led by a more insular attitude. and doesn't - someone led by a more insular attitude. and doesn't realise . someone led by a more insular. attitude. and doesn't realise the strength— attitude. and doesn't realise the strength and _ attitude. and doesn't realise the strength and purpose _ attitude. and doesn't realise the strength and purpose of- attitude. and doesn't realise the strength and purpose of nato . attitude. and doesn't realise the strength and purpose of nato isi attitude. and doesn't realise the - strength and purpose of nato is that even those — strength and purpose of nato is that even those countries _ strength and purpose of nato is that even those countries that _ strength and purpose of nato is that even those countries that are - strength and purpose of nato is that even those countries that are part. even those countries that are part of a benefit — even those countries that are part of a benefit from _ even those countries that are part of a benefit from it, _ even those countries that are part of a benefit from it, because - even those countries that are part of a benefit from it, because if. even those countries that are parti of a benefit from it, because if you don't _ of a benefit from it, because if you don't have — of a benefit from it, because if you don't have a — of a benefit from it, because if you don't have a nato— of a benefit from it, because if you don't have a nato yet _ of a benefit from it, because if you don't have a nato yet the - of a benefit from it, because if you. don't have a nato yet the developed world _
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don't have a nato yet the developed world at _ don't have a nato yet the developed world at each — don't have a nato yet the developed world at each other's _ don't have a nato yet the developed world at each other's throat - don't have a nato yet the developed world at each other's throat and - don't have a nato yet the developed world at each other's throat and a l world at each other's throat and a potential— world at each other's throat and a potential for — world at each other's throat and a potential for very— world at each other's throat and a potential for very large _ world at each other's throat and a potential for very large scale - world at each other's throat and a potential for very large scale war, devastating — potential for very large scale war, devastating to _ potential for very large scale war, devastating to many _ potential for very large scale war, devastating to many countries, i potential for very large scale war, i devastating to many countries, not 'ust devastating to many countries, not just the _ devastating to many countries, not just the ones— devastating to many countries, not just the ones involved _ devastating to many countries, not just the ones involved in _ devastating to many countries, not just the ones involved in it. - devastating to many countries, not just the ones involved in it. whichl just the ones involved in it. which is exactly— just the ones involved in it. which is exactly what _ just the ones involved in it. which is exactly what we're _ just the ones involved in it. which is exactly what we're seeing - just the ones involved in it. which is exactly what we're seeing it - is exactly what we're seeing it ukraine — is exactly what we're seeing it ukraine i_ is exactly what we're seeing it ukraine. ithink— is exactly what we're seeing it ukraine. i think one _ is exactly what we're seeing it ukraine. i think one of- is exactly what we're seeing it . ukraine. i think one of stormers is exactly what we're seeing it - ukraine. i think one of stormers big challenges — ukraine. i think one of stormers big challenges is — ukraine. i think one of stormers big challenges is going _ ukraine. i think one of stormers big challenges is going to _ ukraine. i think one of stormers big challenges is going to encourage i challenges is going to encourage other— challenges is going to encourage other members— challenges is going to encourage other members of— challenges is going to encourage other members of nato - challenges is going to encourage other members of nato and - challenges is going to encourage . other members of nato and ensure that britain's— other members of nato and ensure that britain's own _ other members of nato and ensure that britain's own contributions - other members of nato and ensure that britain's own contributions is. that britain's own contributions is going _ that britain's own contributions is going to — that britain's own contributions is going to he — that britain's own contributions is going to he -- _ that britain's own contributions is going to he -- keir— that britain's own contributions is going to be —— keir starmer- that britain's own contributions is going to be —— keir starmer and i going to be —— keir starmerand holding— going to be —— keir starmerand holding up— going to be —— keir starmerand holding up the _ going to be —— keir starmerand holding up the fight _ going to be —— keir starmerand holding up the fight in - going to be —— keir starmerand holding up the fight in ukraine i holding up the fight in ukraine without— holding up the fight in ukraine without at— holding up the fight in ukraine without at the _ holding up the fight in ukraine without at the same _ holding up the fight in ukraine without at the same time - holding up the fight in ukraine i without at the same time making things— without at the same time making things worse _ without at the same time making things worse. they— without at the same time making things worse. they are _ without at the same time making things worse. they are going - without at the same time making things worse. they are going to i without at the same time making i things worse. they are going to be talking _ things worse. they are going to be talking at— things worse. they are going to be talking at the — things worse. they are going to be talking at the end _ things worse. they are going to be talking at the end of _ things worse. they are going to be talking at the end of the _ things worse. they are going to be talking at the end of the summit. talking at the end of the summit about— talking at the end of the summit about having _ talking at the end of the summit about having an _ talking at the end of the summit about having an irreversible - talking at the end of the summit. about having an irreversible bridge perhaps _ about having an irreversible bridge perhaps to — about having an irreversible bridge perhaps to ukraine _ about having an irreversible bridge perhaps to ukraine joining - about having an irreversible bridge perhaps to ukraine joining nato i about having an irreversible bridge perhaps to ukraine joining nato at| perhaps to ukraine joining nato at some _ perhaps to ukraine joining nato at some point— perhaps to ukraine joining nato at some point in— perhaps to ukraine joining nato at some point in the _ perhaps to ukraine joining nato at some point in the future. - perhaps to ukraine joining nato at some point in the future. but - perhaps to ukraine joining nato at some point in the future. but they cannot— some point in the future. but they cannot do— some point in the future. but they cannot do that _ some point in the future. but they cannot do that while _ some point in the future. but they cannot do that while the _ some point in the future. but they cannot do that while the war- cannot do that while the war is still going _ cannot do that while the war is still going because _ cannot do that while the war is still going because it— cannot do that while the war is still going because it would - still going because it would be eight — still going because it would be eight step— still going because it would be eight step too— still going because it would be eight step too far _ still going because it would be eight step too far for - still going because it would be eight step too far for putin - still going because it would be| eight step too far for putin and things— eight step too far for putin and things would _ eight step too far for putin and things would escalate - eight step too far for putin and things would escalate and - eight step too far for putin and things would escalate and geti eight step too far for putin and l things would escalate and get so much _ things would escalate and get so much worse _ things would escalate and get so much worse. it's _ things would escalate and get so much worse. it's a _ things would escalate and get so much worse. it's a very - things would escalate and get so much worse. it's a very delicate i much worse. it's a very delicate cliff edge — much worse. it's a very delicate cliff edge they _ much worse. it's a very delicate cliff edge they are _ much worse. it's a very delicate cliff edge they are walking - much worse. it's a very delicate - cliff edge they are walking between the possibility— cliff edge they are walking between the possibility of— cliff edge they are walking between the possibility of one _ cliff edge they are walking between the possibility of one side - cliff edge they are walking between the possibility of one side may- cliff edge they are walking between the possibility of one side may be l the possibility of one side may be in the _ the possibility of one side may be in the future _ the possibility of one side may be in the future it _ the possibility of one side may be in the future it nato _ the possibility of one side may be in the future it nato and - the possibility of one side may be in the future it nato and its - the possibility of one side may be in the future it nato and its major partner— in the future it nato and its major partner perhaps _ in the future it nato and its major partner perhaps not _ in the future it nato and its major partner perhaps not being - in the future it nato and its major partner perhaps not being quite l partner perhaps not being quite as involved _ partner perhaps not being quite as involved as — partner perhaps not being quite as involved as it — partner perhaps not being quite as involved as it was. _ partner perhaps not being quite as involved as it was. 0n _ partner perhaps not being quite as involved as it was. 0n the - partner perhaps not being quite as involved as it was. 0n the other. involved as it was. 0n the other someone — involved as it was. 0n the other someone who— involved as it was. 0n the other someone who is _ involved as it was. 0n the other someone who is pushing - involved as it was. 0n the other someone who is pushing very. involved as it was. 0n the other. someone who is pushing very hard involved as it was. 0n the other- someone who is pushing very hard at nato's _ someone who is pushing very hard at nato's lrorders— someone who is pushing very hard at nato's borders and _ someone who is pushing very hard at
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nato's borders and desperately - nato's borders and desperately trying _ nato's borders and desperately trying to— nato's borders and desperately trying to knock— nato's borders and desperately trying to knock the _ nato's borders and desperately trying to knock the whole - nato's borders and desperately| trying to knock the whole house nato's borders and desperately i trying to knock the whole house of cards _ trying to knock the whole house of cards over~ — trying to knock the whole house of cards over-— trying to knock the whole house of cards over. ., ,, , ., , . ., cards over. thank you very much for that. i cards over. thank you very much for that- i want — cards over. thank you very much for that. i want to _ cards over. thank you very much for that. i want to bring _ cards over. thank you very much for that. i want to bring in _ cards over. thank you very much for that. i want to bring in an _ cards over. thank you very much for that. i want to bring in an extra - that. i want to bring in an extra spot. while world leaders are arriving in the us for nato. the indian prime minister narendra modi has met president putin in moscow. mr modi landed on monday, just hours after russian bombing killed at least 41 people in ukraine, including at a children's hospital in kyiv. the us expressed concern over the trip and ukraine's president zelensky described it as a huge disappointment. and today narendra modi had this to say in a meeting with president putin. translation: when innocent children are killed, _ when we see innocent children dying, then the heart pains. and that pain is very horrible. as a friend, i have always said that peace is most important for the bright future of our future generations. but i also know that a solution is not possible on the battlefield. we have to adopt the path of peace only through talks.
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what do you make of this meeting? it's a fine message from mr modi. i would point out it is russia that is the problem. they are the ones who are hurling long—range accurate missiles into ukraine and attacking civilian targets. if putin wants to get to the negotiating table he has to stop these long—range missile attacks without an attacks on ukrainian civilian targets. modi is walking a fine line, you're talking about a cliff edge, he is very keen to open up the aperture for cooperation with the united states it's part of this new quad which is very much focused with japan, the rok, with security, sorry australia, with security and the indo—pacific. he wants to open up the aperture for cooperation with the united states and its allies. at the same time he is getting a lot of gasoline and oil
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from the russians. it's a situation where he's benefiting very much from his cooperation with vladimir putin. but he also wants to have a decent cooperation going on with the united states and its allies modi has got a difficult balancing act. will note he did not attend this summit of the shanghai cooperation organisation this past week. that's one of putin is project for them he went straight to moscow instead. it's as if he's delivering a nuanced message for them on the money and he's not going to do everything vladimir putin is but on the other hand he's happy to go and have nice discussions with putin in the hope that his energy supplies will keep flowing. joan. supplies will keep flowing. joan, this balance _ supplies will keep flowing. joan, this balance i _ supplies will keep flowing. joan, this balance i suppose _ supplies will keep flowing. joan, this balance i suppose that - supplies will keep flowing. joan, this balance i suppose that narendra modi is rather strong? == this balance i suppose that narendra modi is rather strong?—
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this balance i suppose that narendra modi is rather strong? -- johan. yes and no, narendra _ modi is rather strong? -- johan. yes and no, narendra modi _ modi is rather strong? -- johan. yes and no, narendra modi has - modi is rather strong? -- johan. yes and no, narendra modi hasjust- modi is rather strong? -- johan. yes and no, narendra modi hasjust lost| and no, narendra modi hasjust lost his majority— and no, narendra modi hasjust lost his majority in the parliamentary elections — his majority in the parliamentary elections. he still is head of a form — elections. he still is head of a form coalition so ee is not going anywhere — form coalition so ee is not going anywhere soon for them but this was at least _ anywhere soon for them but this was at least a _ anywhere soon for them but this was at least a loss from where he had been before. why that affects the trip to _ been before. why that affects the trip to russia is mainly because he wants— trip to russia is mainly because he wants to _ trip to russia is mainly because he wants to show strength. he is quite keen on— wants to show strength. he is quite keen on making sure that other rivals, — keen on making sure that other rivals, even within his own party, people _ rivals, even within his own party, people like — rivals, even within his own party, people like the chief minister for example — people like the chief minister for example. who is really to the right of modi _ example. who is really to the right of modi and is quite hungry to supplant— of modi and is quite hungry to supplant him. i think he's trying to send _ supplant him. i think he's trying to send a _ supplant him. i think he's trying to send a message to all of these other potential— send a message to all of these other potential rivals that he is very much — potential rivals that he is very much in — potential rivals that he is very much in control. let's remember, lndia _ much in control. let's remember, india and — much in control. let's remember, india and russia have friendly relations— india and russia have friendly relations almost as close as he gets to an _ relations almost as close as he gets to an alliance ever since the 1971
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world _ to an alliance ever since the 1971 world in— to an alliance ever since the 1971 world in pakistan.— world in pakistan. thank you for that will be _ world in pakistan. thank you for that will be speaking _ world in pakistan. thank you for that will be speaking in - world in pakistan. thank you for that will be speaking in a - world in pakistan. thank you for - that will be speaking in a moment to both of you. rose, thank you for coming on the programme and lending us your expertise and experience. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news.
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as we've been here just before the break, this week a huge test for us presidentjoe biden. he will be closely watching how he performs of the word staged at the nato summit after his disastrous few weeks of his campaign for the causing questions over his health and ability to continue there are calls within his own party for him to step aside for them but the president still insists he's not going anywhere. let's bring in our panel.
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jonah, let's start with you for big a test do you think this nato summit is for him or is it actually in opportunity?— is for him or is it actually in ouortuni ? , is for him or is it actually in ouortuni ? i, opportunity? it's an opportunity but as he showed _ opportunity? it's an opportunity but as he showed over _ opportunity? it's an opportunity but as he showed over the _ opportunity? it's an opportunity but as he showed over the past - opportunity? it's an opportunity but as he showed over the past nearly l as he showed over the past nearly two weeks he probably is not up to making the most of this opportunity. to take a step back, i staffed then senator biden for more than a year before he became vice president. i know his body language pretty well. i've seen him at his best, i've seen them at his worst. i never really was very concerned about all of the reports about his ageing until the thursday debate. the debate that he had was just as bad as everyone who saw or thought it was. that was a man i hadn't seen before or at least that's how it felt. he's aged a lot more in the past half year than
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those of us even who are deeply familiar with him from several years ago may have thought. i think anyone expecting fireworks at the nato summit will be disappointed. the best he can hope for is to have some very good teleprompter speeches. if he can do that, he's good at teleprompter speeches. he's done to very well since that debate performance. i think we will hear a lot of talk afterwards about how it was in and how people have known him for a number of years have noticed some very real slippage. yes. for a number of years have noticed some very real slippage. yes, susie, what are your _ some very real slippage. yes, susie, what are your thoughts? _ some very real slippage. yes, susie, what are your thoughts? i _ some very real slippage. yes, susie, what are your thoughts? i think- some very real slippage. yes, susie, what are your thoughts? i think the i what are your thoughts? i think the problem _ what are your thoughts? i think the problem forjoe biden is whether he is competent or not, as it regards to his _ is competent or not, as it regards to his age — is competent or not, as it regards to his age as— is competent or not, as it regards to his age as the president of the united _ to his age as the president of the united states as a nominee. it's 'ust united states as a nominee. it's just the — united states as a nominee. it's just the fact that the narrative is about— just the fact that the narrative is about his — just the fact that the narrative is about his age and his competence. just talking about it, just raising it is an — just talking about it, just raising it is an issue, which is happened as a result— it is an issue, which is happened as a result of— it is an issue, which is happened as a result of that disastrous debate
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is enough — a result of that disastrous debate is enough to rooted in peoples minds~ — is enough to rooted in peoples minds~ it— is enough to rooted in peoples minds. it doesn't really matter whether— minds. it doesn't really matter whether it's you, not true, whether it's something that was fleeting or something that is permanent, it's 'ust something that is permanent, it's just going — something that is permanent, it's just going to take root. it will become — just going to take root. it will become permanent, it will become a de facto, _ become permanent, it will become a de facto, accepted truth for millions— de facto, accepted truth for millions of american voters, that joe biden— millions of american voters, that joe biden has got health concerns. and that _ joe biden has got health concerns. and that will affect and hasn't repeatedly when there are presidents who are _ repeatedly when there are presidents who are in _ repeatedly when there are presidents who are in the best of health of it that will— who are in the best of health of it that will affect how they vote and how they — that will affect how they vote and how they choose to vote. it's not really _ how they choose to vote. it's not really about whether joe how they choose to vote. it's not really about whetherjoe biden is capable — really about whetherjoe biden is capable of making eight nato summit come off— capable of making eight nato summit come off well, if he does good interviews, maybe another debate to prove _ interviews, maybe another debate to prove his— interviews, maybe another debate to prove his worth. he could sail through— prove his worth. he could sail through that and do brilliantly through— through that and do brilliantly through all of it and there is still going _ through all of it and there is still going to — through all of it and there is still going to be a narrative because of the first— going to be a narrative because of the first debate that joe going to be a narrative because of the first debate thatjoe biden has passed it — the first debate thatjoe biden has passed it. that's what he's battling against~ _ passed it. that's what he's battling against. it's the narrative, is the fact that — against. it's the narrative, is the fact that this seems to have taken
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root the _ fact that this seems to have taken root the media but in the public too~ _ root the media but in the public too so— root the media but in the public too. so many people watch that debate — too. so many people watch that debate had that feeling as a result. he's got— debate had that feeling as a result. he's got to — debate had that feeling as a result. he's got to convince the voters that it was— he's got to convince the voters that it was some — he's got to convince the voters that it was some strange aberration, it's not him _ it was some strange aberration, it's not him i_ it was some strange aberration, it's not him. i don't know how we can possibly— not him. i don't know how we can possibly do— not him. i don't know how we can possibly do that short of putting on a bikini _ possibly do that short of putting on a bikini and roller skating down pennsylvania avenue. his doctor to be able _ pennsylvania avenue. his doctor to be able to— pennsylvania avenue. his doctor to be able to convince anybody that is young _ be able to convince anybody that is young and — be able to convince anybody that is young and full of vigor. at what point _ young and full of vigor. at what point do — young and full of vigor. at what point do you say, i never have to... you know? — point do you say, i never have to... you know?— point do you say, i never have to... you know? that is the image you're auoin to you know? that is the image you're going to leave _ you know? that is the image you're going to leave us — you know? that is the image you're going to leave us with. _ you know? that is the image you're going to leave us with. we're - you know? that is the image you're going to leave us with. we're out i you know? that is the image you're going to leave us with. we're out ofj going to leave us with. we're out of time for this part of the program. this is bbc news. hello there, good evening. it's feeling muggy and humid today in the south. plenty of rain around yet again, including here in chelmsford, in essex — in fact, many spots across the south have already seen over a month's worth of rainfall — we're only nine days intojuly. and there's yet more unsettled conditions as we head through the rest of the week, so expect further wet weather at times.
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won't be raining all the time everywhere. there'll also be some sunshine — it's been in short supply today, some of the best of it across the far north of scotland, shetland, and orkney. but overnight tonight, we'll see that rain push further northwards into northern scotland. it'll be particularly relentless across eastern scotland, driven in on this brisk northeasterly wind. some sharper showers, too, further south, including across northern ireland. but lots of dry weather across the southern half of the uk — always plenty of cloud. it's a muggy and a mild start to the day tomorrow. and then, on wednesday, our area of low pressure continues to push very slowly out into the north sea. we're keeping the feed of northeasterly winds and all of that relentless rain throughout the day. so the rainfall totals really starting to rack up here — particularly over the higher ground, there could be as much as 70—90mm of rainfall locally. some longer spells of rain, too, across northern ireland, with the low pressure. a few showers across wales, northern england, but across southeast england, it could stay largely dry and, given any sunshine in the muggy, warm—feeling air, temperatures
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will rise to the low—20s in celsius. so, we stand a much better chance of getting a full day's play on the outside courts on wednesday, and also on thursday, perhaps a bit more in the way of sunshine then, too. but if we just take a look at thursday, then, our area of low pressure still out in the north sea, still a little bit of rain for eastern scotland, but generally drier. we're drawing down this northerly wind, so it will feel cooler, particularly for the northern half of the uk, a few showers, too, further south. but with the sunshine, then, temperatures here should again lift into the low—20s. it will be feeling cooler further north, particularly in exposure to that northerly wind. and we're also keeping a close eye on this little feature towards the south — it could affect southern coastal areas on thursday into friday, perhaps. higher pressure building out towards the west — so west probably best, in terms of temperature and sunshine amounts on friday, but these temperatures are below the seasonal average. cool and still unsettled at times through the weekend. bye— bye.
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hello, i'm lewis vaughanjones. you're watching the context on bbc news. before heading to the nato summit in washington, sir keir starmer addressed mp5 from the despatch box for the first time as prime minister. the need to restore trust should weigh heavily on every member here, new and returning unlike. we all have a duty to show that politics can be a force for good.
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we'll hear more about uk politics injust a minute, but first hospital sources in southern gaza say at least 29 people have been killed and dozens of others injured in an israeli air strike that hit a camp for displaced people. doctors say a blast hit tents outside a school. there's been no immediate comment from israel. our correspondent injerusalem, nick beake, has more many palestinian families had sought safety and shelter at this school in the city of khan younis, and it seems lots of people were there when this missile struck. there's a video on social media that shows more than a dozen people dead, and other people very badly injured being treated at the local hospital.
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one medical source saying that more than 50 people

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