but the clamour is growing and there are many, many�* more who think he should i who haven't gone public yet. joining me on my panel tonight is political commentator brian taylor, and former presidential campaign chief spokesperson and senior adviser to the republican party, rina shah. first, the latest headlines. on the second day of the summit in washington, nato allies announce that they've begun to transfer f—16 fighter planes to ukraine. president zelensky said the aircraft would bring a lasting peace closer. a suspect being hunted in connection with the killing of three women has been captured at a cemetery. 26—year—old kyle clifford is in custody after the deaths of the wife and two daughters of bbc racing commentator john hunt at their home in bushey, hertfordshire.

france and germany call for investigations, after four israeli strikes on schools in gaza in the past four days. israel says it was aiming for hamas targets. the latest strike — last night, near the southern city of khan younis — is reported to have killed 29 people. the euro 2024 semifinal between england and the netherlands is currently under way. the score is currently 1—1. gareth southgate's side are looking to make their second final under his management. the winner of tonight's match will play spain in sunday's final. there are busy days in washington, and then there are busy days in washington. world leaders have been gathering in the american capital, as the nato summit gets under way. the alliance, which is celebrating its 75th anniversary, comes together amidst a backdrop of the war in ukraine, and questions over defence spending. and there are questions over it's own existence —

if donald trump wins the presidency, he's promised wholesale change. president biden is hosting this year's summit — but, while he's welcoming his political counterparts from across the globe, more of his political allies at home are starting to question whether he's fit to run in november's election. and speaking of elections, prime minister keir starmer — whose labour party won big here in the uk less than a week ago — will hold his first bilateral meeting with president biden later tonight. we'll take you through all of those developments — let's start with the latest from nato — and join our correspondent helena humphrey, who is at the summit. so first of all, let's just focus on the summit itself. tell me more about this announcement around the f-i6s. about this announcement around the f-165. ., , , f-16s. you put it very well there, there are — f-16s. you put it very well there, there are a _ f-16s. you put it very well there, there are a busy _ f-16s. you put it very well there, there are a busy days _ f-16s. you put it very well there, there are a busy days in - f-16s. you put it very well there, - there are a busy days in washington, and then there are busy days in

washington — this is the latter. we had that key announcement coming from the us secretary of state about nato ally country is providing ukraine with these much—needed f—16 fighterjets. we've been waiting for this announcement for such a long time because for about a year and a half, ukrainian pilots have been here in the us learning how to fly these jets — they are sophisticated planes that do take a lot of training, but now at least we know these fighter jets will training, but now at least we know these fighterjets will be making their way to ukraine. it comes off their way to ukraine. it comes off the back of that announcement for more patriot missiles, as well as other tactical air defence systems. some of the other key announcements we've had today, one that stuck out to me from jens stoltenberg naming china directly, saying china was an enabler in russia's war on ukraine because of those micro electric parts it reportedly makes which are used in russian weaponry. then this question continues to loom large

about ukraine's role in nato, when it will be able to join. we did hear from the finish president saying that this should be irreversible. we'll be hearing about this bridge to nato, and he says it's something that allies shouldn't be able to go back on. the backdrop to all this, the split screen here in washington continues with calls for president biden to step out of the race. a more ambiguous call from nancy pelosi, a high—ranking influential democrat saying he needs to decide quickly if he'll stay in the race or not. and then, of course, that us democratic donor and world famous actor, george clooney, saying in an opinion editorial in the new york times, "joe biden, i love you, but we need another nominee." find times, "joe biden, i love you, but we need another nominee." and this summit happens _ we need another nominee." and this summit happens on _ we need another nominee." and this summit happens on the _ we need another nominee." and this summit happens on the 75th - summit happens on the 75th anniversary of that alliance — in the past we've heard from donald trump saying he would remove america

from the alliance. i understand he's speaking to fox news radio today, saying he would not pull the us out of nato if he won reelection. but he reiterated that he wanted members to pay their bills more, saying, "europe takes advantage of us badly." how much conversation are you hearing where you are around what will happen if there is another trump presidency, in terms of nato? president zelensky put it very well, speaking last night, saying absolutely everybody, ukraine and around the world, is watching to see what happens in november. i've been asking every single defence minister, foreign minister i've been meeting here from european countries, from balkan countries saying, are you concerned about this? they've been diplomatic about it, saying, "we respect the democratic processes of countries," president zelensky echoing similar statements because they know they would have to work with a potential

president donald trump. but it's fair to say there's a lot of conversation about it, there's certainly concerned about it — jens stoltenberg tackled it straight on, saying, "we can't see in negotiated peace settlement right now because if you were to freeze the matter of ukraine right now, this would not be peace, this would be an occupation." and i think that's in direct contrast to what donald trump has had to say about, "i would be able to settle this war in 2a hours if i was president," without saying how he would do so. in that radio interview, donald trump said it's all thanks to me that other countries are fulfilling their commitments at the threshold — just a fact check on that, obama had also been asking under his administration for other countries to pay more. so this isn't something thatjust for other countries to pay more. so this isn't something that just falls along party lines, this has been a long running concern for other european allies to pay more, and now we are seeing that more of them then other meeting that 2% threshold.

helena, thank you very much, live from the nato summit. joining me now is political commentator brian taylor, and former presidential campaign chief spokesperson and senior adviser to the republican party, rina shah. i'll start with you, this is all going on where you are in washington, dc — how much of a talking point is the us�*s relationship to nato in the circles you move in?— relationship to nato in the circles ou move in? ~ ., �* you move in? well, though i'm here in dc, you move in? well, though i'm here in dc, and — you move in? well, though i'm here in dc, and focused _ you move in? well, though i'm here in dc, and focused on _ you move in? well, though i'm here in dc, and focused on the _ you move in? well, though i'm here in dc, and focused on the words - you move in? well, though i'm here in dc, and focused on the words of. in dc, and focused on the words of donald _ in dc, and focused on the words of donald trump from his rally in florida — donald trump from his rally in florida last night, where he said that he — florida last night, where he said that he didn't know what the heck nato _ that he didn't know what the heck nato was — that he didn't know what the heck nato was before he became president. those _ nato was before he became president. those are _ nato was before he became president. those are some really striking words - and _ those are some really striking words - and today — those are some really striking words — and today in washington, what i'm seeing _ — and today in washington, what i'm seeing our— — and today in washington, what i'm seeing our senior congressional republicans following trump cosmic footsteps, saying more countries ought _ footsteps, saying more countries ought to— footsteps, saying more countries ought to pay their fair share. and that's— ought to pay their fair share. and that's almost rather hypocritical because —

that's almost rather hypocritical because if you look at the data, now more _ because if you look at the data, now more than _ because if you look at the data, now more than 20 countries — i believe the newest— more than 20 countries — i believe the newest number is 23 countries — pay more _ the newest number is 23 countries — pay more under president biden. this is a ntonient— pay more under president biden. this is a moment where you have to wonder. — is a moment where you have to wonder, "gosh, where is the republican river electorate at?" for a long _ republican river electorate at?" for a long time — republican river electorate at?" for a long time it's been, "we in america _ a long time it's been, "we in america take care of the world, and there's— america take care of the world, and there's something wrong with that picture. _ there's something wrong with that picture, we need to force our allies toioin_ picture, we need to force our allies toioin and — picture, we need to force our allies tojoin and pay picture, we need to force our allies to join and pay their fair share with— tojoin and pay their fair share with us, — tojoin and pay their fair share with us, and we to join and pay their fair share with us, and we can't always take the brunt— with us, and we can't always take the brunt of— with us, and we can't always take the brunt of every hit here financially." but now, i think more moderate — financially." but now, i think more moderate republicans are looking at the former— moderate republicans are looking at the former president's words and saying. _ the former president's words and saying, "he really wants to disassemble this alliance that has kept us _ disassemble this alliance that has kept us safe and free." if you listen — kept us safe and free." if you listen to— kept us safe and free." if you listen to the words ofjohn bolton, he talks— listen to the words ofjohn bolton, he talks about him being there with trump _ he talks about him being there with trump in _ he talks about him being there with trump in the white house, and trump aimost _ trump in the white house, and trump almost withdrew — she didn't want to renegotiate, this was about getting back renegotiate, this was about getting hack in— renegotiate, this was about getting back in the white house for trump, and really—

back in the white house for trump, and really withdrawing the us from nato~ _ and really withdrawing the us from nato~ we _ and really withdrawing the us from nato. we ought to listen to those who surrounded the former president and believe them when they say that trump _ and believe them when they say that trump hates nato. it�*s trump hates nato. it's interesting, i trump hates nato. it's interesting, i remember _ trump hates nato. it's interesting, i remember when _ trump hates nato. it's interesting, i remember when i _ trump hates nato. it's interesting, i remember when i was _ trump hates nato. it's interesting, i remember when i was on - trump hates nato. it's interesting, i remember when i was on the - i remember when i was on the campaign trail in 2016, seeing in small town michigan stickers and signs saying "the us needs to leave nato" and i was surprised it was an issue that resonated so far away from washington, dc. do you think that donald trump is hyping up this issue because he thinks it's a vote winner? irate issue because he thinks it's a vote winner? ~ . ., . ~ . winner? we have to look back at 2016 - and remember— winner? we have to look back at 2016 - and remember who _ winner? we have to look back at 2016 - and remember who donald - winner? we have to look back at 2016 - and remember who donald trump l — and remember who donald trump is, he hasn't _ — and remember who donald trump is, he hasn't changed much nor left the limelight— he hasn't changed much nor left the limelight in the four years since he was kicked — limelight in the four years since he was kicked out of the white house, he remains — was kicked out of the white house, he remains steadfast with that one message _ he remains steadfast with that one message - — he remains steadfast with that one message — america first. we are losing _ message — america first. we are losing out— message — america first. we are losing out to the rest of the world because _ losing out to the rest of the world because we are not selfish enough, we do _ because we are not selfish enough, we do not _ because we are not selfish enough, we do not demand more of others, we are the _ we do not demand more of others, we are the world's police." that message _ are the world's police." that message really drilled down into rurai— message really drilled down into rural communities like the one i was

born and _ rural communities like the one i was born and raised in, and west virginia, _ born and raised in, and west virginia, which really goes ruby red and supports trump writ large. when you look— and supports trump writ large. when you took at— and supports trump writ large. when you look at republican voters nowadays even outside rural communities, that message does tend to resonate _ communities, that message does tend to resonate because of the american people _ to resonate because of the american people are _ to resonate because of the american people are feeling regardless of demographics — jens e, millennialist, gen x, boomers — people — millennialist, gen x, boomers — people are — millennialist, gen x, boomers — people are feeling like the american way of— people are feeling like the american way of life _ people are feeling like the american way of life has changed, and what trump _ way of life has changed, and what trump has — way of life has changed, and what trump has forced them to do with his rhetoric— trump has forced them to do with his rhetoric is _ trump has forced them to do with his rhetoric is to — trump has forced them to do with his rhetoric is to look outside the borders, _ rhetoric is to look outside the borders, it's everybody else's fault that we _ borders, it's everybody else's fault that we are — borders, it's everybody else's fault that we are losing out, not ours." | that we are losing out, not ours." i was that we are losing out, not ours." wasjust that we are losing out, not ours." i wasjust reading this as that we are losing out, not ours." i was just reading this as well, it says that finland was concerned about this us uncertainty, potential trump presidency that could change the dynamic between america and nato, saying, "if there's one thing i'm concerned about with the united states, it's the polarisation of the political climate. it is very toxic," that from the finish

president. just wanted to get your thoughts on that. you president. just wanted to get your thoughts on that.— thoughts on that. you know, i do think that that _ thoughts on that. you know, i do think that that kind _ thoughts on that. you know, i do think that that kind of _ thoughts on that. you know, i do think that that kind of rhetoric i think that that kind of rhetoric makes — think that that kind of rhetoric makes me very sad, if i'm honest. that's_ makes me very sad, if i'm honest. that's my— makes me very sad, if i'm honest. that's my gut reaction, because the america _ that's my gut reaction, because the america i_ that's my gut reaction, because the america i know and grew up in as the daughter— america i know and grew up in as the daughter of— america i know and grew up in as the daughter of immigrants is a country that's— daughter of immigrants is a country that's embracing of everybody, that loves _ that's embracing of everybody, that loves the _ that's embracing of everybody, that loves the world so much that it goes out to— loves the world so much that it goes out to promote a free, fair and just voting _ out to promote a free, fair and just voting system which is a representative democracy like the one we _ representative democracy like the one we have here. so when other countries — one we have here. so when other countries look at us and say, "you are toxic. — countries look at us and say, "you are toxic, something is going on and it's very— are toxic, something is going on and it's very wrong within your borders," _ it's very wrong within your borders," i know they are right because — borders," i know they are right because what's happening right now is there _ because what's happening right now is there isn't real division that's come _ is there isn't real division that's come to— is there isn't real division that's come to the service and made a lot of americans feel not just left out, but made — of americans feel not just left out, but made them direct their ajer and fears but made them direct their ajer and tears at— but made them direct their ajer and fears at their neighbours —— there's a real— fears at their neighbours —— there's a real division. it's the tearing of our social— a real division. it's the tearing of our social fabric and erosion of our

institutions— our social fabric and erosion of our institutions that concerns me in such— institutions that concerns me in such a — institutions that concerns me in such a way— institutions that concerns me in such a way that i'm not sure, by the time _ such a way that i'm not sure, by the time my— such a way that i'm not sure, by the time my daughters are older, their preschool— time my daughters are older, their preschool age now, that america will have a _ preschool age now, that america will have a place on the world stage the way we _ have a place on the world stage the way we did — have a place on the world stage the way we did when i was growing up in the i980s _ way we did when i was growing up in the 1980s and 90s. that is something we should _ the 1980s and 90s. that is something we should all be concerned about because — we should all be concerned about because when america doesn't lead, we know— because when america doesn't lead, we know that peace is not they are — and pieces— we know that peace is not they are — and pieces of— we know that peace is not they are — and pieces of everybody around the world _ and pieces of everybody around the world wants. so these words are striking — world wants. so these words are striking and the leaders hear them. they must— striking and the leaders hear them. they must hear them.— striking and the leaders hear them. they must hear them. thank you for the moment- _ they must hear them. thank you for the moment- l _ they must hear them. thank you for the moment. i should _ they must hear them. thank you for the moment. i should say— they must hear them. thank you for the moment. i should say if- they must hear them. thank you for the moment. i should say if you're l the moment. i should say if you're wondering where bryan has gone to, his line has dropped out, so we will try and rejoin or get him to rejoin so we can hear his thoughts on the day's news. sir keir starmer is do to meet presidentjoe biden later. chris mason has been travelling with the

uk prime minister — here's his report. landing on the world stage. sir keir starmer arrived here in washington, the campaign trail behind him, the red carpet in front. accompanied by his wife, victoria, a motorcade tojoin. ukraine on his mind, sleep to grab, people to meet. first up, the german chancellor, olaf scholz. grip and grin, this a few days to build personal relationships with the uk's closest allies. next stop the senate to meet senior us politicians, both democrat and republican. how might this town look next year after the us presidential election? prime minister, good morning. here's the man seeking reassurance — ukraine's president zelensky. how are you? nato wants its members to spend 2% of national income on defence. most, but not all, manage it. the uk exceeds it. the new government is promising to boost defence spending to 2.5%, but not putting a time frame on it.

prime minister, is president zelensky reassured that he's getting the help that he needs? i've just had a very good meeting with president zelensky, where i made it absolutely clear that, as far as the uk is concerned, the change of government makes no difference to the support that we will provide, and to use our opportunity here with our allies to make sure that that support is agreed. and to reinforce, in a sense as a message to putin, the resolve of nato — bigger now than it's ever been, more united than it's ever been, and absolutely clear—eyed about the threat of russian aggression. the uk will begin what's called a strategic defence review next week to work out what is needed for our security, and part of that will be about the money required too. but the review will take time. so what, weeks or months?

no defence review, when it's grappling with such problems, can be done in weeks, but it will be done properly, it will be done at pace, and it'll give us the foundations as a new government to lead britain into the future. they call this the family photo, and a first one for a new prime minister. those rosettes and election campaign speeches seem rather a while ago now. keir starmer heads to the white house next. chris mason reporting there, and will have more on the special relationship between the us and uk, will speak to a former us ambassador to the uk. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news.

he's only been in charge for a few days, but it's already been a busy week for britain's new prime minister. sir keir starmer is at

the nato summit, in washington dc, he's already met president zelensky, but in the coming hours he's also got important one—on—one — a special one, you might say — with us presidentjoe biden. every time these meetings much is made of the so—called special relationship — but before we talk about it, let's take a look at some of those pairings in recent years. music plays

let's speak now with matthew barzun, former us ambassador to the uk. i'm sorry i'm s o r w y o u i r e i'm sorry you're missing the football because when we spoke earlier, you said you wanted to watch that mat too, but i can tell you it's1—1 at watch that mat too, but i can tell you it's 1—1 at the moment. you it's 1-1 at the moment. thank ou for you it's 1-1 at the moment. thank you for the _ you it's 1-1 at the moment. thank you for the update. _ you it's 1-1 at the moment. thank you for the update. let's - you it's 1-1 at the moment. thank you for the update. let's focus i you for the update. let's focus on the politics _ you for the update. let's focus on the politics - _ you for the update. let's focus on the politics - you _ you for the update. let's focus on the politics - you are _ you for the update. let's focus on the politics - you are well - you for the update. let's focus on the politics - you are well placedl the politics — you are well placed to describe how you see the special relationship and how it's changed — what do you think are the biggest challenges for sir keir starmer and joe biden on each side when it comes to the relationship? i’m joe biden on each side when it comes to the relationship?— to the relationship? i'm one of these people _ to the relationship? i'm one of these people who _ to the relationship? i'm one of these people who actually - to the relationship? i'm one of| these people who actually likes to the relationship? i'm one of- these people who actually likes that phrase, special relationship, and i know some others don't. i think sometimes it's misunderstood that it stands for something nostalgic or fixed, or stands for perfect agreement — i don't think it means any of those things, i think its strength lies in its flexibility and

it's always changing, and i think the meeting that's about to take place is another chapter in this wonderful long evolving relationship. one misperception is that we somehow do hard things together as countries because we are friends, and there's sluggishly a truth to that. i think what's more interesting, and what i got to see when i served in that role, is that we are friends as countries because we've done hard things together. we think about the 80th anniversary of d—day, the 75th anniversary of nato, think about all the hard things in front of us together as we look around the world — ukraine top of mind, but not limited to that — these hard things in the differences that emerge and how different countries want to deal with them are the source of the strength of the special relationship, in my opinion. do you think there will be a substantial if difference in the relationship between sir keir starmer and joe biden compared with

rishi sunak and joe biden, or indeed liz truss or borisjohnson? it’s liz truss or boris johnson? it's alwa s liz truss or boris johnson? it�*s always wonderful when the occupant of number ten and 1600 pennsylvania ave, which is the address of the white house, when there's a real connection between those two leaders, really good things can happen. but at the times in history where there hasn't been a great connection, i think the strength of the special relationship is so wide and deep, defence and security, commercial, financial, all the ties that bind the two countries together is where i think the real strength and flexibility lies. so not to minimise the importance of the two top heads of government, and i expect a good, fruitful relationship between starmer and biden. $5 between starmer and biden. as someone who's been in the room many times, what will be happening behind the scenes of the white house to prepare for a new occupant at number

ten? ., , . ., ., , ten? one of my favourite moments before - i served _ ten? one of my favourite moments before - i served in _ ten? one of my favourite moments before - i served in the _ ten? one of my favourite moments before - i served in the obama - before — i served in the obama administration and david cameron was prime minister — all the meetings you don't see. usually the photo ops ljy you don't see. usually the photo ops by definition are quite orderly and people have the appropriate flags in front of their chairs — even in the nato photographs, you have the us and uk sitting next to each other because of an accident of the alphabet, both beginning with the u. all these meetings with senior staffers where people don't sit in orderly ways, people interrupt each other and sit in a random order, and the us and uk find themselves sitting next to each other on purpose, deliberately because we need to work together as countries and we want to work together as countries. picture a simple venn diagram in your life, people you

want to work with and need to work with — as a special thing. he'll see lots of meetings and notepads, and the information he that can exist between our two countries — i love that aspect of it. between our two countries - i love that aspect of it.— that aspect of it. let's bring in the panel- _ we do have brian, there he is! i'll ask you another question quickly, matthew, because i'll bring the other two in. from a us perspective, which alliance around the world do you think is the most important? and i'll ask the panelists the same or similar questions. i i'll ask the panelists the same or similar questions.— similar questions. i don't know, i'm the father of _ similar questions. i don't know, i'm the father of twins _ similar questions. i don't know, i'm the father of twins and _ similar questions. i don't know, i'm the father of twins and a _ similar questions. i don't know, i'm the father of twins and a former - the father of twins and a former diplomat so i specifically avoid those questions. i'lljust say if you think about from the us perspective, the countries you need to work with, the uk is in that circle, and the countries we enjoy working with, the uk is very much in

that overlap — i'm not saying it's the only one, but it's a very important one in that regard, precisely because we are able to not agree all the time, all the potential energy in this relationship, just like in a marriage or parenting, exists in differences. we can work their differences. we can work their differences together. we've proved that and we will prove that in the years ahead. that and we will prove that in the years ahead-— that and we will prove that in the ears ahead. �* . _, ,. . ~ years ahead. brian, welcome back, i think ou years ahead. brian, welcome back, i think you got — years ahead. brian, welcome back, i think you got your— years ahead. brian, welcome back, i think you got your text _ years ahead. brian, welcome back, i think you got your text sorted. - years ahead. brian, welcome back, i think you got your text sorted. sir i think you got your text sorted. sir keir starmer�*s first foreign trip, and already he's managed to secure a meeting with joe and already he's managed to secure a meeting withjoe biden — what's your assessment of what he needs to come with from that first meeting? i think it will be critically important for sir keir starmer, he's established — important for sir keir starmer, he's established himself in the election campaign as getting a relatively dominant position in terms of seats in the _ dominant position in terms of seats in the commons, they have hardly enough _ in the commons, they have hardly enough seats to accommodate the labour _ enough seats to accommodate the labour side. but he now has to gain

a similar— labour side. but he now has to gain a similar profile on the global stage — a similar profile on the global stage with regards to the special relationship, i think it's more cherished _ relationship, i think it's more cherished and acknowledged on the uk side then— cherished and acknowledged on the uk side then is— cherished and acknowledged on the uk side then is on the us side. i think the us— side then is on the us side. i think the us still— side then is on the us side. i think the us still find it particularly useful— the us still find it particularly useful to have a close relationship with the _ useful to have a close relationship with the uk, which is after all a nuclear— with the uk, which is after all a nuclear defence of power, it's also a key— nuclear defence of power, it's also a key trading partner. ithink nuclear defence of power, it's also a key trading partner. i think also the us— a key trading partner. i think also the us found it more useful or advantageous to us interests are in the uk _ advantageous to us interests are in the uk was — advantageous to us interests are in the uk was a member of the eu, because — the uk was a member of the eu, because we were a member of a larger training _ because we were a member of a larger training and _ because we were a member of a larger training and diplomatic block that i think the _ training and diplomatic block that i think the us found was advantageous to their— think the us found was advantageous to their interests. but there's a close _ to their interests. but there's a close relationship or link, but i think— close relationship or link, but i think it's — close relationship or link, but i think it's more observed on the side of the _ think it's more observed on the side of the pond — think it's more observed on the side of the pond than the other. if think it's more observed on the side of the pond than the other.- of the pond than the other. if there is a republican _ of the pond than the other. if there is a republican president _ of the pond than the other. if there is a republican president next - of the pond than the other. if there is a republican president next year| is a republican president next year after the election, of course it would be donald trump if he is to win — we've heard some less than flattering remarks from various

labour politicians about mr trump. how do you think relations could be awkward and tricky going forward between sir keir starmer and donald trump if indeed it is another president trump that we see in office? i president trump that we see in office? ~' , ., . . . office? i think if you get a mag a republican. _ office? i think if you get a mag a republican, trump _ office? i think if you get a mag a republican, trump or _ office? i think if you get a mag a republican, trump or anyone . office? i think if you get a mag a i republican, trump or anyone else, office? i think if you get a mag a - republican, trump or anyone else, he makes _ republican, trump or anyone else, he makes the _ republican, trump or anyone else, he makes the vp— republican, trump or anyone else, he makes the vp pick— republican, trump or anyone else, he makes the vp pick of— republican, trump or anyone else, he makes the vp pick of someone - republican, trump or anyone else, he makes the vp pick of someone who i republican, trump or anyone else, he makes the vp pick of someone who is| makes the vp pick of someone who is very far— makes the vp pick of someone who is very far right— makes the vp pick of someone who is very far right as — makes the vp pick of someone who is very far right as well _ makes the vp pick of someone who is very far right as well — _ makes the vp pick of someone who is very far right as well — it _ makes the vp pick of someone who is very far right as well — it would - makes the vp pick of someone who is very far right as well — it would be - very far right as well — it would be a more _ very far right as well — it would be a more than — very far right as well — it would be a more than comic— very far right as well — it would be i a more than comic interrelationship of the _ a more than comic interrelationship of the uk — a more than comic interrelationship of the uk you _ a more than comic interrelationship of the uk. you would _ a more than comic interrelationship of the uk. you would see _ a more than comic interrelationship of the uk. you would see a - a more than comic interrelationship of the uk. you would see a really. of the uk. you would see a really fractured — of the uk. you would see a really fractured and _ of the uk. you would see a really fractured and broken _ of the uk. you would see a really fractured and broken tie - of the uk. you would see a really fractured and broken tie almost l of the uk. you would see a really| fractured and broken tie almost in the next _ fractured and broken tie almost in the next four— fractured and broken tie almost in the next four years. _ fractured and broken tie almost in the next four years. that - fractured and broken tie almost in the next four years. that really. the next four years. that really concerns— the next four years. that really concerns me _ the next four years. that really concerns me because - the next four years. that really concerns me because i- the next four years. that really| concerns me because i wouldn't the next four years. that really- concerns me because i wouldn't be a good _ concerns me because i wouldn't be a good student— concerns me because i wouldn't be a good student of history _ concerns me because i wouldn't be a good student of history if _ concerns me because i wouldn't be a good student of history if i _ concerns me because i wouldn't be a good student of history if i didn't- good student of history if i didn't say nato — good student of history if i didn't say nato was extremely - good student of history if i didn't. say nato was extremely important, and that's— say nato was extremely important, and that's why _ say nato was extremely important, and that's why it _ say nato was extremely important, and that's why it was _ say nato was extremely important, and that's why it was so _ say nato was extremely important, and that's why it was so concerning j and that's why it was so concerning wouldn't _ and that's why it was so concerning wouldn't donald _ and that's why it was so concerning wouldn't donald trump _ and that's why it was so concerning wouldn't donald trump first - and that's why it was so concerning | wouldn't donald trump first started talking _ wouldn't donald trump first started talking about — wouldn't donald trump first started talking about withdrawing - wouldn't donald trump first started talking about withdrawing the - wouldn't donald trump first started talking about withdrawing the us i talking about withdrawing the us from nato~ — talking about withdrawing the us from nato~ i_ talking about withdrawing the us from nato. i didn't _ talking about withdrawing the us from nato. i didn't think- talking about withdrawing the us from nato. i didn't think it - talking about withdrawing the us from nato. i didn't think it was . from nato. i didn't think it was simple — from nato. ididn't think it was simple talk— from nato. i didn't think it was simple talk he _ from nato. i didn't think it was simple talk he was _ from nato. i didn't think it was simple talk he was trying - from nato. i didn't think it was simple talk he was trying to i from nato. i didn't think it was i simple talk he was trying to throw to a base — simple talk he was trying to throw to a base of— simple talk he was trying to throw to a base of supporters _ simple talk he was trying to throw to a base of supporters there, i thought— to a base of supporters there, i thought he _ to a base of supporters there, i thought he was _ to a base of supporters there, i thought he was very _ to a base of supporters there, i thought he was very serious i to a base of supporters there, i i thought he was very serious and he continues—

thought he was very serious and he continues to — thought he was very serious and he continues to be, _ thought he was very serious and he continues to be, because _ thought he was very serious and he continues to be, because what he l continues to be, because what he does _ continues to be, because what he does not — continues to be, because what he does not believe _ continues to be, because what he does not believe it— continues to be, because what he does not believe it is— continues to be, because what he does not believe it is america i does not believe it is america is safer— does not believe it is america is safer when— does not believe it is america is safer when our— does not believe it is america is safer when our allies _ does not believe it is america is safer when our allies have - does not believe it is america is safer when our allies have our. safer when our allies have our backs, _ safer when our allies have our backs. and _ safer when our allies have our backs. and we _ safer when our allies have our backs, and we have _ safer when our allies have our backs, and we have our- safer when our allies have ouri backs, and we have our allies's backs — backs, and we have our allies's backs so— backs, and we have our allies's backs so as _ backs, and we have our allies's backs. so as someone - backs, and we have our allies's backs. so as someone who i backs, and we have our allies's backs. so as someone who is l backs. so as someone who is concerned _ backs. so as someone who is concerned with— backs. so as someone who is concerned with peace - backs. so as someone who is concerned with peace and i backs. so as someone who is - concerned with peace and security, particularly — concerned with peace and security, particularly for— concerned with peace and security, particularly for women _ concerned with peace and security, particularly for women and - concerned with peace and security, particularly for women and young l particularly for women and young people _ particularly for women and young people around _ particularly for women and young people around the _ particularly for women and young people around the world, - particularly for women and young people around the world, i - particularly for women and young people around the world, i know| people around the world, i know certain— people around the world, i know certain actions— people around the world, i know certain actions are _ people around the world, i know certain actions are necessary. i people around the world, i know. certain actions are necessary. and look, _ certain actions are necessary. and look. a _ certain actions are necessary. and look. a lot— certain actions are necessary. and look. a lot of— certain actions are necessary. and look, a lot of young _ certain actions are necessary. and look, a lot of young americans, i look, a lot of young americans, people — look, a lot of young americans, people 40 — look, a lot of young americans, people 40 and _ look, a lot of young americans, people 40 and under— look, a lot of young americans, people 40 and under like - look, a lot of young americans, people 40 and under like me i look, a lot of young americans, i people 40 and under like me have... you keep— people 40 and under like me have... you keep dropping _ people 40 and under like me have... you keep dropping out _ people 40 and under like me have... you keep dropping out a _ people 40 and under like me have... you keep dropping out a little - people 40 and under like me have... you keep dropping out a little bit, i you keep dropping out a little bit, i'lljust give the final word on this discussion to matthew. in terms of the most substantive thing that could come out of this, there's talks of defence cooperation and there's been a long talk about a possible trade deal between the two, what thing would you be looking out for after this first meeting? i what thing would you be looking out for after this first meeting?- for after this first meeting? i know if she not for after this first meeting? i know if she got cut _ for after this first meeting? i know if she got cut off, i _ for after this first meeting? i know if she got cut off, i think _ for after this first meeting? i know if she got cut off, i think she i for after this first meeting? i know if she got cut off, i think she was l if she got cut off, i think she was making some very important points about the importance of nato, so for me, it would be these two leaders

emphasising their support of this incredible alliance. it's past and its future, and as part of that ukraine — i remember when i headed to sweden as ambassador there before the uk, some grizzled foreign policy expert said, "you'll be asked to bring up nato membership for sweden one day," and that it wouldn't happen. then it happened. serra; one day," and that it wouldn't happen. then it happened. sorry to sto ou happen. then it happened. sorry to stop you there. _ happen. then it happened. sorry to stop you there, we've _ happen. then it happened. sorry to stop you there, we've just - happen. then it happened. sorry to stop you there, we've just ran i stop you there, we've just ran out of time, thanks to matthew and to my panel, i'll be back. on wednesday, it just on wednesday, itjust wouldn't on wednesday, it just wouldn't stop

raining across parts of northeast scotland. in parts of aberdeenshire, we had 70 mm of rain and places — over a month's worth of rain — as well as the wet weather, also quite windy and cold. northeast scotland nowjoins parts of southern england and the midlands in place of the uk that already had already a month's worth of rain, and just past the first week. it continues to rain across northeast scotland, an area of low pressure slowly moving out to the north sea, continues to be wet here but we had another weather front bring some rain across northern ireland and northern england, and thatjust stinks a bit further southwards, so heading into the first part of thursday morning. you might find a few patches of rain arrived across north wales and the midlands. a mild start of the day on thursday, temperatures 11—14 c — varied weather conditions from place to place on thursday, but low pressure continues to feed rain into northeast scotland. the rain turning lighter and patchy her but still bumpy even into the afternoon.

western scotland brighter with sunny spells, and sunshine coming through for northern ireland into the afternoon. northern england, wales and parts of the north midlands, heavy showers into the afternoons, throughout southern wales, a lot of dry, sunny and warm weather with temperatures widely into the low 20s and picking at 23 — feeling pleasant in the sunshine — otherwise temperatures around 15—19 c. for friday's forecast in this area of low pressure moves across northern france — it could come close enough to bring a band of persistent rain into southeast england. ill be there or thereabouts, so we'll keep an eye on the developments within that. this ridge of high pressure should break up across western scotland, northwest england, probably the driest and brightest spots. temperatures will continue to run below average, around 15—20 c for your high. the weekend sees low pressure get close to the northeast

of the uk, so it's across eastern scotland and northeast england that we will have some general outbreaks of rain developing. otherwise quite a lot of dry weather on saturday, just a few brief showers. sunday mostly fine with temperatures high teens or low 20s. bye for now.