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president — welcome. thank you very much, mr president. and firstly congratulations on a successful summit, — congratulations on a successful summit, it's been an incredibly important _ summit, it's been an incredibly important moment. 75 years of a bigger— important moment. 75 years of a bigger nato, stronger nato and the nato with_ bigger nato, stronger nato and the nato with the result that we need. i thought— nato with the result that we need. i thought the metal, the honour for stoltenberg yesterday was a very special _ stoltenberg yesterday was a very special moment. i don't think he was expecting _ special moment. i don't think he was expecting it — special moment. i don't think he was expecting it. no special moment. i don't think he was expeeting it— expecting it. no he wasn't, he was leavina expecting it. no he wasn't, he was leaving and — expecting it. no he wasn't, he was leaving and i— expecting it. no he wasn't, he was leaving and i intervened _ expecting it. no he wasn't, he was leaving and i intervened when - expecting it. no he wasn't, he was i leaving and i intervened when he was going to leave and i swear to god, my knees... i'm only kidding. he spoke to me yesterday. i my knees... i'm only kidding. he spoke to me yesterday.— my knees... i'm only kidding. he spoke to me yesterday. i had lunch with him when _ spoke to me yesterday. i had lunch with him when he _ spoke to me yesterday. i had lunch with him when he was _ spoke to me yesterday. i had lunch with him when he wasjust - spoke to me yesterday. i had lunch with him when he wasjust about i spoke to me yesterday. i had lunch i with him when he wasjust about to with him when he was just about to id with him when he was just about to go to— with him when he was just about to go to the _ with him when he was just about to go to the central bank saying i'm free, _ go to the central bank saying i'm free, and — go to the central bank saying i'm free, and then you spoke to him and he stitt— free, and then you spoke to him and he still in _ free, and then you spoke to him and he still in the job. he�*s free, and then you spoke to him and he still in the job.— he still in the 'ob. he's done a treat he still in the 'ob. he's done a great job. — he still in the 'ob. he's done a great job. a — he still in the job. he's done a great job, a really— he still in the job. he's done a great job, a really great - he still in the job. he's done a great job, a really great drop. | he still in the job. he's done a - great job, a really great drop. but great “0b, a really great drop. but that greatjob, a really great drop. but that special relationship is so important, it's forged in difficult circumstances, endured for so long and we _ circumstances, endured for so long and we are — circumstances, endured for so long and we are stronger now than ever, so we're _ and we are stronger now than ever, so we're very— and we are stronger now than ever, so we're very pleased to be able to come _ so we're very pleased to be able to come so _ so we're very pleased to be able to come so early in the government. to

reconmit— come so early in the government. to recommit to — come so early in the government. to recommit to nato, to recommit to the spedal— recommit to nato, to recommit to the special relationship and have the opportunity to discuss these affairs with you _ opportunity to discuss these affairs with you is — opportunity to discuss these affairs with you is really important for us. i kind _ with you is really important for us. i kind of— with you is really important for us. i kind of see — with you is really important for us. i kind of see you guys as tying the transatlantic alliance together. the closer you are, the more, if we know where you are, we know where we are. i think that's absolutely right. now we go _ i think that's absolutely right. now we go into— i think that's absolutely right. now we go into a cup final on sunday on top of— we go into a cup final on sunday on top of all— we go into a cup final on sunday on top of all of— we go into a cup final on sunday on top of all of that. i actually watched, i began to watch the game but we _ watched, i began to watch the game but we left _ watched, i began to watch the game but we left at one all. you watched, i began to watch the game but we left at one all.— but we left at one all. you guys are still talking — but we left at one all. you guys are still talking about _ but we left at one all. you guys are still talking about that? _ but we left at one all. you guys are still talking about that? no, - but we left at one all. you guys are still talking about that? no, we - still talking about that? no, we haven't seen — still talking about that? no, we haven't seen each _ still talking about that? no, we haven't seen each other - still talking about that? no, we haven't seen each other since. | still talking about that? no, we - haven't seen each other since. well, we've not haven't seen each other since. well, we've got a — haven't seen each other since. well, we've got a lot _ haven't seen each other since. well, we've got a lot to _ haven't seen each other since. well, we've got a lot to talk about, - haven't seen each other since. -ii we've got a lot to talk about, thank you all for coming. the middle they were referring to

was the presidential medal of freedom which was awarded to the nato secretary general against —— stoltenberg. live now to washington and my colleague helena humphrey, yes, i think those comments in the bilateral meetings were closely watched insert keir starmer on the international stage as the new uk prime minister at a time where there are questions aboutjoe biden and whether you will continue further forward with his candidacy for the white house and the upcoming presidential election and some witty repartee between the two men speaking about soccer or football and also saying that their alliance is stronger than ever in the best of analyses the way thatjoe biden put it but very much on this meeting

were someone has seen the drip of comments coming from democrats in congress and questioning present biden's mental acuity, health, stamina to continue in the race against donald trump in 2034 in just against donald trump in 2034 in just a few months' time including the former speaker of the house nancy pelosi speaking on msnbc saying the president needs to make up his mind and quickly if he plans to stay in the race despite the fact that prison biden said very clearly that he does indeed intend to keep on running and i do some of the business there on capitol hill and the white house which is also threatening to overshadow some the key developments monitoring your the nato summit in washington today but they have been because we have the washington declaration set out saying that ukraine's pap to nato membership is quote unquote,

irreversible trend to reverse the conditions of all of the allies in the us secretary of state said it should be a short bridge so it is not a question of if, but more likely when but after the war, that concern from the likes of the us, germany and triggering an escalation and that important key announcement with regards to what's being deployed as well and that's something we do know ukraine has been calling forfor a something we do know ukraine has been calling for for a long time and events in the netherlands from denmark that they will be getting key air defence by the summer as well and some of the key developments we have been seeing here in washington.— here in washington. thank you so much. i here in washington. thank you so much- idon't— here in washington. thank you so much. i don't need _ here in washington. thank you so much. i don't need to _ here in washington. thank you so much. i don't need to tell- here in washington. thank you so much. i don't need to tell you - here in washington. thank you so | much. i don't need to tell you that englander through to the finals. i don't need to tell you that england is through to the finals. all through the tournament, we've been checking

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is in washington and justin is down the line. so chris, we're recording at 6:11. what is happening at the nato summit? how is prime minister keir starmer doing? yeah. hello to you, adam. from the main press centre at the nato summit here in washington. i'm a fairly rare visitor to the united states and to be in washington in the summer, i've discovered it's quite hot. i mean, particularly when you've flown from the uk, which is, well, you know, wet and soggy and feels like february even though it'sjuly. and then you arrive in washington and it's a bit kind ofjungly and swampy, and you get a sweat on just walking round the block. anyway, this spot, the international media centre, i mean, frankly, we could be anywhere in the world. it's just a giant conference centre. but it does come furnished with air conditioning, which is a great relief to all. and here is the prime minister, you know, on the world stage, in the blink of an eye from wearing a rosette and doing a stump speech

and all the governments associated with an election campaign, here he is on the world stage with the kind of nato backdrop behind him, the family photo. they've just done, which is where all the nato leaders get together and smile towards a camera, you know, and all of this just seven days on from the last day of campaigning. it's extraordinary, really. but this summit was in the diary. it was going to happen this week, come what may. and so the prime minister, whoever they happen to be, he gets an invite. and justin, starmer�*s here. and justin, the political backdrop is that keir starmer arrives looking incredibly secure as a leader, while his host, joe biden is looking increasingly insecure. that's right. and, um, and everyone's saying at one stage, i think about a day or so ago, you go from day to day on this stuff, but one at one stage, people saying, it's ok, joe's going to stand again. he's telephoned his favourite news programme. he's sent a letter to congress. people, he's up and running. he's managed to read something off an autocue. it's all back on. uh. it's wonderful. nato people coming here.

forget about it. talk about something else. and then, um, in the last hour or two, two events, actually, number one, george clooney has turned against him. and when the film stars turn against you and you're a democratic candidate, that's not a good sign. and more seriously, actually a big fundraiser, george clooney. and number two, george stephanopoulos, who did this interview where he was meant to be kind of righting the ship, and he talked to to george, and it all went sort of, 0k. george stephanopoulos then, is bearded by someone in the street, um, who says, how do you think that went? do you think he can last another four years? and george, not knowing he was being recorded by this total stranger, said, no, i don't think he can. i don't think he can get to the end of it. so now it's absolute. we're back to chaos. just at the point at which chris and all the serious people are wanting to talk about other things. yeah, we'll pick up on that at that point aboutjoe biden a bit later on. but, chris, while we've got you on, i should say also, chris, if we go

over our time with you, the american broadcasting people start charging us hundreds of dollars for this line that we're speaking to you on. so if you could just keep, keep, keep, keep the pace up, please. anyway, so just in terms of what, um, what i mean, does keir starmer have a view onjoe biden? what does he say when you all in the press pack say, oh, what do you think aboutjoe biden? i've never felt the pressure quite so keenly as when there is a price on my brevity. and by the way, i've never been included within the bracket of the serious people asjustin very just kindlyjust did then, which is quite a weight upon my upon my shoulders. so we were asking the prime minister on the flight here about, you know, the whole business of the situation president biden finds himself in, not least because, as it turns out, one of labour's ideas, um, is this idea of cutting down the size of the house of lords. now, bear with me with this point, because you might think, what? where's he going with this? one of the ideas that labour have for reducing the size of the upper chamber is to effectively put an age cap on it.

and what would that age cap be? are people in their early 80s? mm. a little bit awks. so we asked the prime minister about this on the, on the flight here. and he, um, as deftly as diplomacy allows in these situations, pointed out that in his view, the house of lords is far too big and there's got to be a means of cutting it down. and people in the house of lords tend to be, broadly speaking, of a certain age. so perhaps the easiest way of killing it a bit is to have some sort of age cap. but he insisted that that bore no relation or had any impact on his view about the legitimacy or otherwise of, you know, aged leaders elsewhere around the world. but clearly, when we head to the white house later to see the moment on the chairs in the oval office between the prime minister and the president, that swirl, that is dominating the national conversation here in the states and then more broadly shapes the conversation around the nato table, because obviously, american leadership is so central to nato. what happens in the coming

in the coming months is absolutely dominant. flicking around the us tv channels this morning at breakfast time here. and this is not remotely surprising, but it was there wall to wall all of the questions about, well, ultimately if the president is senile. well let's bring it back to defence then. so what are keir starmer�*s ideas for defence. both kind of specifically with ukraine and support for zelensky. and he saw the ukrainian president a little bit earlier today. and alsojust kind of the bigger defence picture for britain as a nation over the next few decades. yeah. so prime minister saw president zelensky and was seeking to be reassuring, effectively saying, look, the government and the prime minister has changed, but the policy hasn't. i mean, president zelensky must be rather used to that, hearing it from british prime ministers, what with borisjohnson and then liz truss and then rishi sunak and now keir starmer. but to be fair to all of them, the policy hasn't changed the uk's kind of foreign policy posture, as far as ukraine is concerned, has been consistent through a period where, frankly, there's been a lot of inconsistency in terms of leadership and those in the most senior roles, the most interesting sort of gritty

bit of conversation around the uk's kind of defence posture is this whole question about funding, because labour was saying in the campaign that they wanted to see defence spending go up to 2.5% of national income. nato asks its members to spend 2% of national income on defence. most, but not all, nato members do that. it's quite a transition from ten years ago where plenty absolutely did not. now, you'll remember one of the arguments in the election campaign between the conservatives and labour was that over this 2.5% figure, with the conservatives saying that they were committing to doing it by 2030, labour saying they were committed to doing it, but without putting a time frame, a deadline on it, which, you know, how much of a commitment is a commitment if you're not saying to if you're not willing to say when you'll actually commit to it. now, the line from the government this morning is that that commitment is ironclad, but it is still

lacking a time frame. now, their argument is they're going to do what's called a strategic defence review. in other words, one heck of a look at what is needed in defence. notjust money, but, you know, everything from numbers to equipment and you name it, that is starting next week. that's going to take a while. and part of that will be a conversation around the money. but even then the government says that 2.5% would be reached if it was, in their view, affordable. so it means that critics can say, well, hang on a minute, how much of a priority is stepping up defence spending if it has so many caveats attached relative to other priorities? but hey, i mean, from, you know, labour's perspective, from keir starmer�*s perspective, welcome to the trade offs of government. that's the reality of it. and i don't know if this expensive line we've got you on works both ways. is there anything domestically

from westminster that has sort of managed to make it over to you across the atlantic? any kind of because normally when these prime ministers go on these foreign trips, they're dogged by something domestic. but of course, keir starmer is very much in his honeymoon period. yeah, i think that's it really. because, because of the sort of novelty value, if you like, of keir starmer and his team. he's got david lammy, the foreign secretary in tow. john healey, the defence secretary, is here. nick thomas—symonds, who has responsibility for relationships with uh the uk's nearest neighbours, is here too. means there's a bit less of a perhaps of the domestic agenda chasing him over the water. that will happen in time, no doubt. it happens to happens to all governments. to be honest, i must admit i feel in something of a nato summit bubble conscious that we've got, you know, the novelty of a new parliament taking shape at westminster with swearing in and a new shadow cabinet and new ministerial appointments at a more junior rank happening across the other side of the atlantic. but to a degree, honestly, um, passing us over here by to a greater or lesser extent, to be honest,

a greater extent really, with all eyes on the trip to the white house coming. oh, and the small matter of the football as well. oh, and talking of football, we know what keir starmer is going to give biden as a gift. ah, yes. so president biden has been given an arsenal shirt, which i'm sure he's always wanted. i mean, you know, it'sjust what he needs, isn't it? i mean, that would bejust, uh, that that's just great. uh, so, yeah. inevitable ritual of the exchanging of gifts. um, i'm sure president biden sings 1—0 to the arsenal in the back every day. so no, this shirt isjust the perfect, uh, the perfect, uh, you know, accoutrement to that, isn't it? really? i'm sure they'll all be watching the soccer later. chris, i've got to let you go. speak to you soon. ta ra. see ya. um, justin, that thing about presence between prime ministers and american presidents. it's always cringe, isn't it? utterly cringe. i remember, um, gordon brown being given by barack 0bama a load of video, a load of dvds that couldn't be watched on a british dvd machine.

i mean, it was that, it was that. um. but that was. also in the era, though, when gordon brown was so desperate to hang out with barack 0bama, they ended up having, like a quick brush by in a kitchen or something, weren't they? that's right. yeah. that's true. yeah, the dvd thing, i mean, it was later people wondered whether they actually bought the dvds in the white house gift shop and a kind of last minute. just give him these. give him these. um, but, yeah. no, there have been some some awful. i have to say, the british gifts are generally better than the american ones. but then that that reflects the reality of the special relationship, which is only special really from one side. some supplicants. i wonder, by the way, i wonder if keir starmer sweats, because what chris was saying right at the beginning, i mean, it really took me back to living there.

and i had a soft top car and i loved the heat and it was you do. washington at this time of year is really, really sweaty, and particularly when you're going from a cooler britain at the moment, it will really have struck them. and you can say, well, yeah, they'll be in air conditioned rooms and all the rest of it all the time, but you can't ever be completely in an air conditioned room. and as soon as you're outside, you soak and then you freeze when you go inside. so there are all these sort of issues, never mind the nato summit that, um, keir starmer's coming to terms with for the first time. and also if this summit was happening injanuary, it would be incredibly cold and probably very snowy because of the extremes. yeah, yeah. um, do you know what? i'm just thinking back to what chris was saying about, um, labour or the government, i should say commitment to spending 2.5% of gdp on defence, because actually, i woke up this morning and was listening to you interviewing the new armed forces minister, luke pollard, about that very subject.

let's just go back in time and see what he said. the commitment that's been made not only by rachel reeves, but by the prime minister as well, to get to 2.5% is ironclad. but we need to be clear, the way we deliver increased public spending on defence, on schools, hospitals or prisons is by growing our economy. if we don't grow our economy, there won't be the money to support those public services and the ambitions that we have. and that includes defence. and basically that is as a pledge. it's not very hard and fast no matter how much they say ironclad. and also he said it's quite dependent on other things. it's interesting the growing the economy thing, because i really did press him a bit on that. so are you saying if the economy doesn't grow, then we won't have this extra money for defence, which seems very much to be the implication. he didn't go that far. um, and they don't. and all of the things, of course, that they're saying will come from economic growth. and, you know, ithink they would say, look, we are going to get it. we're absolutely determined. we know how to do it. so there you are. um, but yeah. no, the, itjoins the long list of things that they want to spend

more money on, but they're being very cautious about making hard and fast promises with regard to timing, at least in the case of defence. and, you know, there's no doubt there was a senior guy who used to be in charge of the army, was telling the times newspaper a few days ago that we could, you know, if we needed to retake the falklands. i don't think we would. but if we needed to retake the falklands, we could probably send the two divisions, in otherwords, the kind of under 10,000 troops again. but we couldn't supply them when they were there and we couldn't get them back again. and, you know, that's the reality, it seems, of where we are. back to talking about president biden's future. so you were saying there's those two things that happened. so the george clooney op ed in the new york times, which is actually quite a powerful piece of writing. i thought i was quite surprised, though, george clooney or george clooney�*s writers are very good. um, and the george stephanopoulos doorstep, which kind of blew things open. but there was also a third thing that happened today, which is nancy pelosi. i'd forgotten about her! yeah. on one of the morning shows being incredibly

lukewarm about biden. so, she goes on morning joe, which is joe's favourite. um, joe biden's favourite programme, is not named after him, is named afterjoe scarborough as she presents it. uh, former congressman, now a great fan of biden, former republican congressman, interestingly. anyway, so he goes on morning joe, uh, or she goes on morning joe and says, you know, they say to her, actually stand. etc, etc. and she has this weird formulation where, well, he's got to make up his mind soon. well, hang on a second. he says he has made up his mind quite a quite a few days ago, and he's been telling everyone he's made up his mind. so where does that come from? and there's an immediate kind of flurry of, oh my goodness, um, what's going on with nancy? but i can tell you what's going on with nancy because it sort of knits in with the george clooney line. so. so somewhere in the middle of his article, clooney writes, we're not going to win in november with this president.

but then he goes on, on top of that, we won't win the house and we're going to lose the senate. um, now, that's every part of the federal government. and by the way, they got the court as well, essentially, um, into the hands of donald trump and the republicans. and he says, clooney says, notjust my opinion. this is the opinion of every senator and congress member and governor that i spoke with in private, every single one, irrespective of what he or she is saying publicly. now, nancy pelosi was, until very recently the head of the democrats in the house of representatives. she talks to all those people. she knows that too. there is, behind the scenes, an absolute ferment of people, including people who are saying, hang on a second. we're not just going to lose the presidency, we're going to lose both houses of congress. we're not going to be able to retake the house of representatives, which they had thought they could do, and we're going to lose the senate. and that means that donald trump can do pretty much whatever he wants. it is that kind of emergency as the democrats would see it. that's the thing that struck me as an amateur observer of american politics in the last couple of days, is that shift from it being about biden to,

do they call it down the ticket? so basically, people in other races that aren't the presidency, once they start thinking, hang on, he could be a drag on me and i won't get re—elected. that seems to give you a... this is one for the real nerds. but it's a fascinating one. the state of wisconsin that biden needs to win. the democrats need to win in the presidential election. this is one of those swing states, one of the ones that could actually change either be trump or or biden. there's a senator there called tammy baldwin, a democratic senator who's also running for re—election this time around. um, she is easily beating her republican rival at the moment. trump is easily beating biden. so what is going on? everyone is looking at wisconsin saying, whoa, hang on a second. what? people are making a hard and fast decision, and they're telling the pollsters, we're going to vote for tammy baldwin, who is a democrat, but we're not going to vote forjoe biden for the democratic ticket for the presidency. and right across the country, the fear is particularly in swing seats for congress that that is going to happen. and this could be a real wipe—out,

actually, of democrats. and everyone's become an armchair expert now. but you actually are an expert in this, and i don't know what kind of chair you're sitting in. also, i think your dog wants to go out for a walk. it's a hard chairand he's desperate to go out. but yeah, i mean, the thing is, everyone is going to become an expert. and because it's so accessible, really american politics, isn't it? because it's we used to think it was all balloons and nonsense, and actually it was no difference between the parties. and it's now so stark and so huge, and it kind of looms over us in a way that it really didn't when, when we were younger. and i think, i think by the time we get to the election, um, it's going to be, um, well, it's going to be on, on everyone's lips. um, i'll give you a one word answer, because i know you've got to take your dog out for a walk, but is there a mechanism by whichjoe biden can be forced out? yes there is. um, it's not really a mechanism that's giving it a rather dignified term. it'sjust a load of pressure from people, including barack 0bama

and bill clinton behind the scenes, ringing up and saying, for goodness sake, go ringingjill up his wife and saying, for goodness' sake, go! and it's that kind of drip, drip and also the polls suggesting then that he's there's no way that he's going to win, which they are currently suggesting all of that, plus another episode of of some sort. that's what gets him out there. there is no formal mechanism, but there are all sorts of ways, i think that he could still go. i think that it could still go. justin, i'm going to let you go and grab some poo bags. chiming in there, wasn't he? your dog thinks he's going to go, but there we go. i mean, that's that. if biden is listening to this, that might be the final straw. anywayjustin, lovely to catch up. bye, adam.

welcome to newsday, reporting live from singapore, i'm steve lai. the headlines... cheering. england celebrate a dramatic euros semifinal win. a 90th—minute winner sees them through to sunday's final. democrats pile the pressure onjoe biden, nancy pelosi urges him to make a final decision — while george clooney says he should step aside.

nato confirms it will support ukraine's "irreversible path" to membership, on the second day of the military alliance's summit in washington. we begin with football and england are through to the euro 2024 final. they beat the netherlands 2—1 in the semifinal in dortmund. ollie watkins was the hero of the night — somehow threading through the winner in the 90th minute. the netherlands scored early before harry kane equalised from the penalty spot. england now play spain in sunday's final. the england manager, gareth southgate, has come in for a lot of criticism from fans for the team's style of play. speaking after the game, he said this result vindicated his tactics. he said this result

i he said this result was really pleased with the quality