the english channel. the man who plotted to kidnap, rape and murder tv presenter holly willoughby will be sentenced today, as another woman he attacked tells the bbc he could have been stopped sooner. a plan to free some inmates early to help tackle prison overcrowding is set to be announced today. and england manager gareth southgate says they will have to be tactically perfect to beat spain in sunday's euro 2024 final. hello, i'm maryam moshiri. we start in the us where president biden has insisted he is the most qualified candidate to take on donald trump in november's election, despite making gaffes in front of world leaders at the nato summit.

he insists he is ok. he mistakenly called the ukrainian leader president putin. then, at a news conference, he referred to his deputy kamala harris, as vice—president trump. our north america editor sarah smith was watching. applause world leaders at the nato summit have cringed when mr biden introduced a key european ally as his sworn enemy. and now i want to hand over to the president of ukraine, who has as much courage as he has determination. ladies and gentlemen, president putin. president putin! he's going to beat president putin. president zelensky. i'm so focused on heating putin, we've got to worry about it. i'm better. you are a hell of a lot better. it was an unfortunate start to an event at which president biden was under intense scrutiny when he got the name of his own vice president kamala harris wrong. look, i wouldn't have picked vice

president trump to be vice president if she wasn't qualified, so i will start there. the fact is that the consideration is that i think i'm the most qualified person to run for president. i beat him once, and i will beat him again. however, these were mr biden�*s only obvious mistakes. over the course of nearly an hour of taking questions, there were no other slips like that, and president biden was discussing in depth the situation in ukraine, the war in the middle east, his domestic economic policy here in the united states, at great length on some occasions. he made it clear he had no intention of pulling out of the presidential race, despite repeated questions about his fitness for office, and there was nothing in this performance that would force him to change his mind. i've taken three significant and intense neurological exams by a neurologist. in each case, as recent as february,

and they say i'm in good shape. 0k? but after the event, more members of congress said they thought he should step aside. many don't know if he can, and many will be watching to see if he can actually get to november, given the crisis that is engulfing his candidacy right now. indicating this issue will continue to dog mr biden as he campaigns for re—election. sarah smith, bbc news, washington. the prime minister, sir keir starmer, has again defended the us president, saying mr biden and his team should be proud of their achievements at the nato summit. our political editor chris mason sent this update from washington. as sir keir starmer wrapped up his first international trip as prime minister, he wanted to emphasise his commitment to the nato defence alliance. he wanted to make an argument that said that lots of nato's members should be paying more

into their defence budgets. but inevitably, so much of the focus in the questions from us reporters afterwards were about those remarks from president bidenjust a few minutes before the prime minister arrived here. we have a stronger nato. we have a real sense of resolve. in the third of the sessions, the council sessions, the session with president zelensky there in relation to ukraine, there was a session that he described as a success because of the package coming out of it. and president biden led through all of that. that is an incredible achievement of this council. and when we think of the global threats, that is the best possible outcome we could have had today. and so i think he deserves credit for that. questions about president biden have dominated so many of the conversations here over the last few days.

and those remarks just in the final minutes will guarantee that conversation will continue. let's speak to sir david manning, former uk ambassador to the us and a director of gatehouse advisory partners. thank you forjoining us on bbc news, let me ask you first of all for your view on president biden and whether or not he should stand for election. i whether or not he should stand for election. ~' , ., , , election. i think probably he shouldn't — election. i think probably he shouldn't know. _ election. i think probably he shouldn't know. i— election. i think probably he shouldn't know. i think - election. i think probably he | shouldn't know. i think there election. i think probably he i shouldn't know. i think there is election. i think probably he - shouldn't know. i think there is a terrific record, as the prime minister said, that president biden has had over the last 20 half, four years, he has got the american economy moving, improving the transatlantic alliance and standing up transatlantic alliance and standing up for ukraine. the risk is, if he once again, he cannot help getting older, he will prejudice his own legacy. if he were to lose, that is certainly the case, ex—president trump were re—elected. i think

probably the tiniest for him to make way for a younger candidate —— at the time is. way for a younger candidate -- at the time is-_ way for a younger candidate -- at the time is. one of the issues here as there is — the time is. one of the issues here as there is no _ the time is. one of the issues here as there is no clear _ the time is. one of the issues here as there is no clear candidate - the time is. one of the issues here as there is no clear candidate who | as there is no clear candidate who at least he believes could beat former president trump? he at least he believes could beat former president trump? he has not actually said — former president trump? he has not actually said that _ former president trump? he has not actually said that as _ former president trump? he has not actually said that as far _ former president trump? he has not actually said that as far as _ former president trump? he has not actually said that as far as i - former president trump? he has not actually said that as far as i know. i actually said that as far as i know. he has said he is quite clear his vice president kamala harris could do thejob and vice president kamala harris could do the job and of course if he does start talking names, it suggests he is going to stand down and at the moment he is not ready to make that concession. it looks as though he is backin concession. it looks as though he is back in one element of the democratic party against the other. i don't think you can expect him to endorse anybody at the moment. they have a raft of good people in the democratic party and i am quite sure they can come up with a very strong candidate if he stands aside. let they can come up with a very strong candidate if he stands aside.- candidate if he stands aside. let us talk about keir _ candidate if he stands aside. let us talk about keir starmer's _ candidate if he stands aside. let us talk about keir starmer's visit - candidate if he stands aside. let us talk about keir starmer's visit to i talk about keir starmer's visit to washington. how do you think it went for him, his first big event on the international stage?

for him, his first big event on the internationalstage? it for him, his first big event on the international stage?— international stage? it looked a . reat international stage? it looked a great success — international stage? it looked a great success to _ international stage? it looked a great success to me. _ international stage? it looked a great success to me. i - international stage? it looked a great success to me. i was - international stage? it looked a great success to me. i was not| international stage? it looked a - great success to me. i was not there so i see what i see on the tv and so on. but it looked to me as though he handled it very well with real authority. from his point of view, it is an excellent opportunity because in his first week in office he not only has his first bilateral with the american president, he met the leaders of the other nato countries and a lot of those are european leaders and of course next week he is going to be hosting the european political meeting in britain which many of them will be present at. suddenly he has the opportunity to get to know his counterparts and to reaffirm britain's foreign and defence policies in those meetings. i think from his point of view it has been hugely productive. {iii from his point of view it has been hugely productive.— hugely productive. of course a tou~her hugely productive. of course a tougher stance _ hugely productive. of course a tougher stance on _ hugely productive. of course a tougher stance on ukraine - hugely productive. of course a| tougher stance on ukraine from hugely productive. of course a - tougher stance on ukraine from keir starmer. is that the right thing to do at this point, do you think? i

think he was bound to have to make it very clear in his first meeting, particularly at nato, where his administration stands on ukraine. i don't think anybody had any doubts that the new labour government would be 100% behind ukraine. but of course this was an opportunity to restate that and he did so in the most uncompromising terms. fiifi restate that and he did so in the most uncompromising terms. ok, sir david manning. _ most uncompromising terms. ok, sir david manning, good _ most uncompromising terms. ok, sir david manning, good to _ most uncompromising terms. ok, sir david manning, good to talk- most uncompromising terms. ok, sir david manning, good to talk to - most uncompromising terms. ok, sir david manning, good to talk to you, i david manning, good to talk to you, thanks for speaking to us. president zelensky has urged nato leaders to drop all restrictions on weapons supplied to strike targets inside russia. it comes after one of the worst russian attacks on ukraine this week, when over a0 people were killed and a children's hospital in kyiv was hit. at the nato summit in washington, members promised billions of pounds more in military aid and training for the country. but, as our ukraine correspondent, james waterhouse explains, the pledges were a fraction of what kyiv was hoping for. rocket.

on monday, in a matter of hours, missiles overwhelmed ukraine's normally well defended capital. and it's what they hit which made this one of the worst aerial assaults in this war. this is kiev�*s children's hospital, where some of the patients were being treated for cancer. it was a site which drew worldwide attention and western condemnation. russia denied targeting civilian areas, but evidence to the contrary is mounting. and this was an attack which wasn't confined to one place or one hospital. cities across central and eastern ukraine were targeted. ia people lost their lives here, and it took three days to find them from under the rubble. 0nce lived lives exposed by blown away walls. the country is paying a mounting human cost.

five doctors in a kyiv clinic died in one of the strikes this week. as nato leaders gathered in washington, president zelenskyy couldn't contain his emotion. it's so difficult to lose children. and of course, you know, you see these people, you see parents, and when their children are dying or dead, you want to kill putin at this moment. in the absence of battlefield progress, highlighting russian atrocities is kyiv�*s most potent weapon. sizeable western offerings have followed, including financial aid, the delivery of f—16 fighter jets and much needed air defence systems. but ukraine got only a fraction of what it was after. in the centre of the capital, thousands of flags mark ukraine's fallen.

it has long wanted nato membership and after years of promises, no—one has ever said when, because of russia's ongoing invasion. and that takes us to the heart of ukraine's unknowns. can it withstand more attacks on its infrastructure? are the current levels of military aid enough to carry it to victory? or will enduring defiance get it through? all questions brought to the fore by missile strikes which shocked the world. james waterhouse, bbc news, kyiv. some breaking news. four migrants have drowned whilst trying to cross the english channel in a small boat overnight. french officials say a navy patrol boat responded to reports last night that several people had fallen overboard off the coast of northern france. 63 others who fell into the water have been rescued.

let us cross live to speak to hugh schofield, paris correspondent. what more do we know? we schofield, paris correspondent. what more do we know?— more do we know? we know that it ha--ened more do we know? we know that it happened in _ more do we know? we know that it happened in the — more do we know? we know that it happened in the early _ more do we know? we know that it happened in the early hours - more do we know? we know that it happened in the early hours of- more do we know? we know that it happened in the early hours of this| happened in the early hours of this morning, they were off the coast near boulogne—sur—mer, well south of calais, where the channel is quite broad, but where more and more people are leaving from. in the early hours of this morning, there was an emergency call, a boat in difficulty, it was a blower dinghy, a bit of it was deflating —— blow dinghy. a fishing boat and rescue boat were in the area, they can to help, a navy patrol boat was diverted, a helicopter was at the scene as well. at dawn this morning, most of the people on this boat were picked up. the helicopter spotted four people floating, apparently

dead or unconscious, they were brought aboard the navy boat and taken to boulogne—sur—mer where it was established they were indeed dead. 63 rescued, four dead i am afraid, another terrible incident in the channel. afraid, another terrible incident in the channel-— the channel. thank you for that u date the channel. thank you for that update from — the channel. thank you for that update from paris. _ plans to release prisoners early to stop jails becoming full are to expected be announced today by the government. it is expected to apply to low—level offenders who could be released after serving 40% of their sentence. there are just over 83,000 male prisoners in england and wales. the bbc understands for the system to fight smoothly and efficiently, there needs to be a minimum of 1425 available spaces. a source has told the pc pc currently there are only 700. -- told the pc pc currently there are only 700. —— told the the pc pc currently there are only 700. -- told the bbc. with the

growing population constantly putting them under more pressure. prisons are full and we are in danger of having to close the doors and not let any new prisoners in. the latest issue, the fact that we are going to exceed the prison capacity that we are building, has been known about or at least projected, for a matter of years. a couple of years, i would suggest. there has always been a hope that we were able to deliver new build prison capacity in time to enable us to just about cope with the way the prison population was going. in total, there are 83,380 men in prison in england and wales. for the system to operate smoothly and effectively, we understand there needs to be a minimum of 1,425 spaces. a senior prison source has told us there are 700 spaces left in male jails. later today, the newjustice secretary, shabana mahmood, will announce that some inmates

on determinate sentences — that's those with a fixed end date — will be released after serving 40% of their sentence to create more room. this won't include serious offenders such as murderers and rapists. she's expected to explain that if prisons were to run out of places, police cells would rapidly fill up, courts would be forced to delay cases, and police unable to arrest dangerous criminals, putting the public at risk from unchecked criminality on our streets. but this is likely to be an unpopular move with some victims of crime, who believe those who break the law should do their time. it could also make some people feel unsafe as more prisoners are released in one go. the strategy also raises questions for the probation service, which is already stretched and will have to monitor those released early on licence, increasing its workload. this is a short—term fix which should free up some cells quickly, but it's not clear what the government will do in the longer term to deal

with the overcrowding. this is one of the first big tests for the new prime minister, just days into his premiership, and how it pans out could be an early mark of success orfailure. sima kotecha, bbc news. let's speak to our political correspondent, harry farley. harry, this is difficult decision for a new government. what exactly are we expecting from thejustice secretary, shabana mamood? good morning. difficult decision and some stark warnings as well this morning about the consequences of not acting. shabana mahmood, justice secretary, is expected to make a speech today, she will visit two prisons. we are expecting her to say the overcrowding in prisons is catastrophic, it requires immediate action to pull the justice system back from the brink of total collapse. the main part of the plan as you heard is to allow some prisoners to be released early after 40% of their sentence, under current

arrangements prisons with a —— prisoners with a fixed end date are released after 50% and spend the rest on licence under certain conditions which if they break they can be returned to jail. that is the main part of the plan to release some prisoners up to 40% of their time injail. government sources some prisoners up to 40% of their time in jail. government sources say serious violent offenders and sexual offenders will not be included in this. as you heard, there are concerns from some about the possible implications for a rising offending. the government argue the reason they are having to do this as they have been forced into it by the failures of the previous government to tackle overcrowding but there are longer term questions as well. this is a short—term measure, emergency measure, it will likely by the government 18 months according to the formerjustice secretary alex chalk. do they want to see fewer people going to prison after that?

average sentence has been reduced? those are some of the questions we can expect to be asked today. {iii can expect to be asked today. of course these are short—term fixes for what is a problem right now in prisons but there are longer term issues, other not?— issues, other not? exactly. sentences— issues, other not? exactly. sentences have _ issues, other not? exactly. sentences have gradually l issues, other not? exactly. - sentences have gradually been inflated ever since the 90s, since john major's government, tony blair as well, average sentences for time in prison increase dramatically. there has been a trend over the last few decades of politicians being faced about concerns about crime responding to concerns by saying, we will send people to prison for longer, we will be tougher on crime, increase sentences for all manner of crimes, and it has led over a long period of time to the situation we are now into day. this is a short—term fix, as you say, and there are questions about what the government will do in the longer term. we have not heard from the government what the plans are but a hint perhaps in the appointment of

james timpson as prisons minister, he has previously set around a third of people in prison should not be there at all. perhaps an indication there at all. perhaps an indication there of the government's direction of thought when it comes to longer term decisions.— of thought when it comes to longer term decisions. harry, thank you. if ou want term decisions. harry, thank you. if you want to — term decisions. harry, thank you. if you want to know _ term decisions. harry, thank you. if you want to know more _ term decisions. harry, thank you. if you want to know more about - term decisions. harry, thank you. if you want to know more about the l you want to know more about the story, you can follow at live, with analysis from our team of specialists and get live video on the live page running right now on the live page running right now on the bbc news website and the bbc news app. police in bristol are continuing their search for a man, after two suitcases containing human remains were found on the clifton suspension bridge. avon and somerset police were called to reports of a man acting suspiciously at the bridge late on wednesday evening. 0ur reporter fiona lamdin had this update. it is the second day of a manhunt here in bristol. the clifton suspension bridge behind me has now

reopened but yesterday and usually it was closed for the entire day. there was a white forensic police tend towards the leigh woods and of the bridge. at a press conference yesterday, the police told us on wednesday evening i received a call just before midnight. when they arrived, the man had vanished. they found two suitcases, one was on the bridge and one was just away from the bridge. when they opened them up, they found what they suspect to be human remains. at the press conference yesterday, they released an image of the man who is black, wearing black clothes, a beard and gold airing. the public are told not to approach him but if they see him to approach him but if they see him to call 999. the man convicted of attempting to

murder holly willoughby will be sentenced later. seen here in his arrest last year, he was charged after he unwittingly disclosed his plans online to an undercover police officer in the us. in plans online to an undercover police officer in the us.— officer in the us. in 2006, the former security _ officer in the us. in 2006, the former security guard - officer in the us. in 2006, the former security guard from - officer in the us. in 2006, the - former security guard from harlow, gavin plumb, received a suspended sentences after targeting two women in separate incidents. 0ne sentences after targeting two women in separate incidents. one of those women has been speaking to the bbc about the continuing impact of his attack, to our correspondent, charlotte gallagher. before gavin plan plotted to kidnap, rape and murder of holly willoughby, he targeted four other women and teenage girls. maria is one of them. plumb attempted to kidnap herfrom a train. i remember the train being empty. there was another girl. she got onto the same carriage as i did. she sat somewhere in the middle, i went to the back, when i noticed that

somebody came and sat right in front of me, and i thought, well, the carriage is empty. she's never spoken before about what happened to her, but agreed to speak to me on the condition her voice was disguised. he passed me a note. i mean, ithought, it'sjust some piece of paper. i didn't even look what he was doing, i ignored it. then, he pushed it forward for me to read. and when i read it, it was something, something along the lines of, "get off the train with me. be quiet." "don't do anything. "get off the train with me and nothing will happen to anybody." he had a rope and replica gun on him. and as i read that note, it was only then i looked at the person. so my first impression was that he is huge. i have no chance. so, there was this moment when i was just frozen and scared. but it was also disbelief. i thought, maybe he'sjoking.

i mean, it's absurd, but he started pointing and showing me to stay quiet, and he started approaching me with his hands. he held his hand on my knee and was indicating that we're going to go. in the note it said, "get off with me at the next station." and after the initial freeze and disbelief, i realised what was going on. and i was frightened. that feeling was growing because i started realising that this massive man wants to get me off the train. i knew the next station is just a small village. at this point of time, there'll probably be nobody there. i mean, it's surrounded by bushes and woods, and i had all the worst scenarios cooking in my head. and i thought, if i get off that train, he can do anything. and so my thought was not to get off that train at any cost. the other woman in the carriage noticed maria was in distress

and raised the alarm. gavin plumb fled but was arrested after trying to kidnap another woman from a train. he was given a suspended sentence for those crimes. he'd later go on to falsely imprison two teenage girls in the shop he worked at. do you feel that if he'd have got a custodial sentence, if he'd been sent to prison after he did what he did to you, do you feel it may have stopped gavin plumb from committing the crimes he went on to do? i believe so, i believe that lack of punishment was only encouragement. he could go unpunished doing whatever he did. if he got away with it, why would he not try again? what happened with plumb has changed how maria views men. potentially, every man can be a perpetrator, and i understand that so many women think along the same lines. a large man sitting right next to a girl, that's potential danger. it's really sad, but that's

just one of those takeaways from that unfortunate story for me, that when i look at men, i very often do that quickjudgement. so, what level of danger are they? and that's all men? when you see a man, you think, is this person dangerous to me? yes. how did you feel when the holly willoughby case, it hit the newspapers, and presumably the police told you, "look, the person who did this to you has been arrested"? he did something that was bad enough to finally find him guilty and keep him in custody, to keep him away from society. i do feel for holly because obviously she had to go through it in the spotlight and it must be difficult. you do not want your name to be attached to a person like gavin plumb. and this is one of the reasons i want to remain anonymous. i don't want to be associated with him in any way. how do you feel about gavin plumb now, when you think about gavin plumb?

i feel like he lost his life. anybody has capacity to have a wonderful life ahead of them. you just give in to some mad, sick fantasies, to your desires, to your ego, and you lose your life. he has, in my eyes, nothing in life, and it makes him, in a way, more dangerous. you know, a person who has nothing to lose. no ability to control himself. i almost feel pity for him. charlotte gallagher, bbc news. now it's time for a look at the weather with carol kirkwood. hello, again. generally, today is going to be cloudy and cooler than it was yesterday. the other thing is the pollen levels are moderate or high, and we're talking grass and nettle pollen at this time of year. now what's happening is we've got a weak weather front which is travelling southwards. there's a lot of cloud around,

that cloud thick enough for some patchy light rain and drizzle. this morning's rain clearing away from the south—east, but we've got some more showery outbreaks of rain coming into the north—west. you can see this ridge of high pressure trying to build in, and although there's a lot of cloud around, there will be some brighter breaks, the best of which are going to be across parts of central and southern scotland, where we'll see some sunny skies. some sunshine coming in to the east of northern ireland, but a lot of cloud across england and wales. some breaks now and again, perhaps the best ones across the south—west. but here, as temperatures rise, that could trigger a few sharp showers and you may well hear the odd rumble of thunder as well. temperatures 14 to 19 degrees with a northerly breeze. now, as we head on through the evening and overnight, it remains fairly cloudy for most of us. still some patchy light rain coming out of that cloud and breezy down the north sea coastline. temperature—wise, well, it's not particularly cold. we're looking at 10 to about 12 degrees as our overnight lows. so, that leads us into tomorrow.

again, tomorrow we've got high pressure out towards the west. we're watching this area of low pressure, which is quite close to us, and it could throw in some showers across some eastern areas. so, quite a bit of cloud to start the day tomorrow, the cloud thick enough for some showery outbreaks of rain and also some drizzle across the east. west is going to be brightest tomorrow, where we'll see the cloud break and some sunshine come through. but again, as temperatures rise, it could trigger off the odd shower. temperatures 13 to 19 degrees, so still below average for this stage injuly. and then as we move into sunday, well, this low pressure again not too far away from us, but it's pulling away towards scandinavia. then we're watching this next one, which could bring in some rain later on sunday and into monday, even tuesday, as it moves across the uk. so, for sunday, a lot of cloud around, some breaks, some showers, the rain coming in later, and that rain is going to move northwards and eastwards through the course of monday and tuesday.

it is 9:30am. this is bbc news, the headlines... president biden insists he is ready for another term in the white house despite making more gaffes at the nato summit in washington. elsewhere at the summit president zelensky urged nato allies to lift restrictions on the use of weapons on targets inside russia. more than one year after the loss of the titan submersible, an unmanned craft will carry out a detailed 3d scan of the world famous titanic shipwreck. four

migrants died and 63 are rescued off the coast of boulogne after a boat capsized in an attempt to cross the english channel overnight. postmortem examinations are under way after 77 pilot whales died on a beachin way after 77 pilot whales died on a beach in 0rkney in one of the uk's biggest ever strandings. some prisoners in england and wales are set to be released after completing just 40% of their sentence, under new plans to be announced by the government. of their sentence, under new plans the proposals, aimed at reducing overcrowding, are similar to those that were being looked at by the conservatives and are expected to apply to low—level offenders. let's speak to david shipley, a former inmate and writer. he spent time as an inmate at wandsworth prison for fraud after being jailed in 2020. after your release, you have worked as a consultant for the prisons inspectorate so you are an expert in so many ways in what is happening. can you let me know if you could, what you think of this plan of

moving the 40% figure and getting more people out of prison quickly, especially as a short—term fix? that especially as a short—term fix? git this stage it is inevitable we need to do early release, the prison system is full and we are close to the point where they will simply be no where to jail people, but the risk in releasing people early as we put more pressure on a probation service which is already suffering a staffing crisis and are struggling, by giving them more workload, and we see a spike in reoffending because the prisons have noted anything effective to reduce the chance of reoffending, which will mean more former prisoners being recalled are more pressure on the courts, so it is a very risk situation. {aide more pressure on the courts, so it is a very risk situation.— is a very risk situation. give me insiaht is a very risk situation. give me insight into _ is a very risk situation. give me insight into your _ is a very risk situation. give me insight into your experience - is a very risk situation. give me insight into your experience at| insight into your experience at wandsworth prison and why after your experience that you decided to spend your time pushing for reform? i often say that my time at wandsworth prison radicalised me. i became enraged by how bad our prisons are,

not only do they do very little good to help people turn their lights around but they often do lots of harm, they drive people into addiction because in the uk over 60% of male prisoners spend at least 22 hours a day locked up in their cells, it is a huge waste of time. people are lying on bunk beds feeling miserable and depressed, often turning to substances as a way often turning to substances as a way of coping, rather than developing skills, going into training or work, it is so wasteful. the skills, going into training or work, it is so wasteful.— it is so wasteful. the former risons it is so wasteful. the former prisons minister _ it is so wasteful. the former prisons minister rory - it is so wasteful. the formerl prisons minister rory stewart it is so wasteful. the former - prisons minister rory stewart was on the radio 4 today programme and said the radio 4 today programme and said the answer is to imprison fewer people, for less time, he said the conservatives and labour have competed with each other and being more thorough search —— ferocious demanding longer sentences that they often make things worse. do you agree that people should go to prison for only very serious crimes and many more peoplejust

prison for only very serious crimes and many more people just not go to prison? it and many more people 'ust not go to rison? , ., and many more people 'ust not go to rison? , . , . , ., prison? it is a difficult question. i think a prison? it is a difficult question. i think a lot _ prison? it is a difficult question. i think a lot of _ prison? it is a difficult question. i think a lot of the _ prison? it is a difficult question. i think a lot of the public - prison? it is a difficult question. | i think a lot of the public believe many crimes should be punished with a prison sentence. for me i think it is less important how many people be sent to prison and for how long and what is more important is what happens when they are there, and i think a prison system which works, helps people develop skills, become employable and leave prison with a job, a stable home and a social support network would be far more effective in reducing crime. the challenges that longer sentences, particularly for some crimes, a very popular and trying to fight that battle is pretty hard.— battle is pretty hard. david shile , battle is pretty hard. david shipley, it _ battle is pretty hard. david shipley, it has _ battle is pretty hard. david shipley, it has been - battle is pretty hard. david shipley, it has been good i battle is pretty hard. david l shipley, it has been good to battle is pretty hard. david - shipley, it has been good to talk to you and i appreciate you taking the time to speak to us. the man suspected of killing the wife and daughters of the bbc racing commentatorjohn hunt in a crossbow attack is reportedly in a serious condition in hospital after he was found injured in a cemetery in the

area. police are still waiting to speak to kyle clifford, the former boyfriend of one of the sisters who died. lucy manning sent this report. an enormous loss which can only be measured in tears. groups of friends of the hunt family came to comfort each other at a church vigil. they came with memories and great grief to remember carol hunt, her daughter is 28—year—old beautician hannah and 25—year—old louise, who run a dog grooming business. a group of carol's oldest friends, together for decades, now with one missing. lovely family. i miss carol like crazy, because that was the four others that were close friends and i

just really miss her and i cannot believe this has happened. can you tell me what she was like? lovely girl, sweet and kind, always thought about herfamily, very girl, sweet and kind, always thought about her family, very family orientated. ifeel for about her family, very family orientated. i feel for their oldest daughter and john, i orientated. i feel for their oldest daughterand john, i can't orientated. i feel for their oldest daughter and john, i can't imagine what it would be like. he was the nicest, kindest, sweetest person —— she was. a beautiful, beautiful person. she was. a beautiful, beautiful erson. , ., . ., ., person. they had so much going for them and she _ person. they had so much going for them and she and _ person. they had so much going for them and she and john _ person. they had so much going for them and she and john built - person. they had so much going for them and she and john built a - them and she and john built a fabulous _ them and she and john built a fabulous life together with their girls. _ fabulous life together with their girls, the girls were successful in their_ girls, the girls were successful in their businesses and it was taken away— their businesses and it was taken away in _ their businesses and it was taken away in an— their businesses and it was taken away in an instant.— their businesses and it was taken away in an instant. sally would chat to her as she _ away in an instant. sally would chat to her as she did _ away in an instant. sally would chat to her as she did her _ away in an instant. sally would chat to her as she did her nails. - away in an instant. sally would chat to her as she did her nails. she - away in an instant. sally would chat to her as she did her nails. she was a reall , to her as she did her nails. she was a really. really _ to her as she did her nails. she was a really, really lovely, _ to her as she did her nails. she was a really, really lovely, bubbly- a really, really lovely, bubbly person, a really great personality and a really happy little soul. when someone is that happy and all the

lights arejust taking someone is that happy and all the lights are just taking on such a barbaric way... the lights are just taking on such a barbaric way. . ._ lights are just taking on such a barbaric wa , , , . , barbaric way... the suspect in these killin . s, barbaric way... the suspect in these killings. kyle _ barbaric way... the suspect in these killings, kyle clifford, _ barbaric way... the suspect in these killings, kyle clifford, we _ barbaric way. .. the suspect in these killings, kyle clifford, we know- barbaric way... the suspect in these killings, kyle clifford, we know was| killings, kyle clifford, we know was the ex—boyfriend of louise hunt. a former soldier, the ex—boyfriend of louise hunt. a formersoldier, he the ex—boyfriend of louise hunt. a former soldier, he had worked for a security firm. his older brother is in prison, convicted in 2018 of murder. search is a house in enfield connected to this family continued as he remains in hospital after the police found him with injuries after the manhunt ended at a nearby cemetery. bbc racing commentator john hunt has the sympathy and support of his community at work and at home. at newmarket the racing paused. his wife and two of his daughter is killed in their own home. three successful women remembered here. lucy manning, bbc news.

some supermarkets and business owners are planning to give staff a lion on monday to recover from watching england play spain in the final of the euros. the game starts at 8pm on sunday and could last until 11pm if it goes to penalties. let's cross live to charlotte richardson, a sportsjournalist, not about the morning off, that is not what i will ask you because that is not for you to say, although i am sure you will get the morning off at the end of a long sunday night, let me ask you about the actual football. a great performance, mostly, against the netherlands, can we bring it home on sunday? we we bring it home on sunday? - absolutely can. for england it has been a tournament that we have really grown into, the group stages, the performances were not necessarily the most convincing and we were not seeing our attacking arsenal firing we were not seeing our attacking arsenalfiring on we were not seeing our attacking arsenal firing on all cylinders we were not seeing our attacking arsenalfiring on all cylinders but in the knockout rounds england have

shown a grit and determination and has been sprinkling into really magic moments from jude bellingham's bicycle kick to set a goal in extra time and the cool, calm, classy strike from 0llie watkins in the semifinal which sees england to make it to back—to—back european finals, just hoping that on sunday gareth southgate's sites can go that one step further and bring home the silverware. step further and bring home the silverware-— step further and bring home the silverware. ~ ., ., , ., ~' silverware. what do you think will be ke to silverware. what do you think will be key to england's _ silverware. what do you think will be key to england's success? - silverware. what do you think will- be key to england's success? manager gareth southgate says they need to be tactically perfect, what does he mean? �* ., , be tactically perfect, what does he mean? �* . , ,, ., ., mean? against spain we will have our tou~hest mean? against spain we will have our toughest contest _ mean? against spain we will have our toughest contest of _ mean? against spain we will have our toughest contest of the _ mean? against spain we will have our toughest contest of the tournament . toughest contest of the tournament so far. it is a final but not only that, spain have been on a fantastic winning streak in this competition, they are full of confidence and have a really great blend of experience with young, talented players. from a

tactical point of view i think midfield will be a key territory, declan rice and the teenager who has broken through and played with such maturity will be essential, and other elements of the game that will prove really important is gareth southgate's system that he chooses to play, he has played three defenders at the back and had england playing with wingbacks which i think has been really useful because it has pushed england up the pitch in the territory in which they really want to be, the final third with the likes of phil foden, jude bellingham and harry kane, that is where they are at their most dangerous and that will tactically be the key, making sure england can play with a confidence that might stifle spain and refused to let them get into a passing rhythm which they have done on so many occasions. they knocked out hosts germany and put on a really composed display against the french to reach the final. charlotte, thank you very much indeed, enjoy the match on sunday

night, i hope you get a lion on sunday morning. i certainly won't, i am back to work very early on monday morning, not that i like to moan, but i like to moan. some breaking news which you can read more about on the bbc news website, we have been talking about the four migrants who have died after their boat capsized during an attempt to cross the english channel. this information came from the french coastguard who settled in a navy patrol boat sounded the alert that migrants have fallen into the sea off the coast of boulogne cinema in northern france. four people found unconscious could not be saved, 63 were rescued, we have had to comment on the last few minutes from home secretary yvette cooper on x, saying the further loss of life in the channel is awful, criminal gangs are making vast profits from putting lives at risk, we are accelerating action with international partners to pursue and bring down dangerous

smuggler gangs. that is the latest from the home secretary yvette cooper in reaction to those migrant deaths on the channel. we will have more on the bbc website and throughout the day on bbc news. the widow of the broadcaster michael mosley says she believes his legacy will bring real value to improving people's health. speaking ahead of a special day to honour the former doctor across the bbc, dr clare bailey—mosley also said she had been overwhelmed by the public response to his passing last month. a little bit of news about the banking sector now. banking complaints have reached their highest level in at least a decade, according to the financial ombudsman. concerns about current accounts, credit cards and scams are behind the increase. current accounts were the most complained—about product. to australia now. a soldier and her husband have been arrested and charged with spying for russia. investigators say the couple — who are australian

citizens with russian passports — attempted to share classified information with moscow. officials are still trying to establish whether any material was handed over, but say there's been no significant compromise of military secrets. at a news conference, the australian federal police commissoner, reece kershaw, outlined the charges against the pair. they have been charged with one count each of preparing for an espionage offence, which carries a maximum penalty of 15 years imprisonment. they will appear before brisbane magistrates�* court today. the afp will allege the individuals worked together to access australian defence force material that related to australia's national security interests. we allege the woman was undertaking non—declared to travel to russia whilst she was on long—term leave from the australian defence force.

we allege that whilst she was in russia, she instructed her husband, who remained in australia, on how to log into her official work account from their brisbane home. we allege her husband would access requested material and would send to his wife in russia. we allege they sought that information with the intention of providing it to russian authorities. whether that information was handed over remains a key focus of our investigation. postmortems are being carried out on some pilot whales after the biggest mass stranding of pilot whales in decades. nearly 80 of the animals, including many calves,

died after washing ashore at tresness beach on the island of sanday — from where rob flett sent us this report. sanday�*s beaches are renowned for their outstanding natural beauty. yesterday morning, islanders discovered a scene of devastation. 77 pilot whales beached along the shoreline, some of the largest up to seven metres long, weighing as much as eight tonnes. rescuers say it was a horrible sight. we had at least eight animals that were still alive. uh, so we've been very busyjust trying to sort out logistics of how we're going to deal with it, because we've obviously very remote. we don't have a lot of kit, we don't have a lot of manpower. so it's been incredibly difficult trying to sort that out. we've also been fighting an incoming tide, um, with animals that are incredibly heavy, so we've got no way of moving them. the family group included males and females, calves and juveniles. 12 of the animals were still alive. they were tended to by the rescue team while vets across the country were consulted on what to do next. the soft sand thwarted any efforts to right the whales before they could be refloated. experts decided there was no chance they could be

saved and the remaining whales were euthanised. now attention is turning to establishing why this happened. sadly, this is becoming more common. this is... it used to be quite unusual to have a mass stranding event, certainly of this size. but over the last ten years or so, we've seen an increase both in the number of mass stranding events around scotland and also the size of them, as in the number of animals that it involves. so that is slightly concerning. and that might be because there are just more animals out there. or it could be that there are more hazards that these animals are exposed to. these people came here to rescue these whales. sadly, now all that's left to do is record them. that process will take the next few days. then local farmers will come and take these corpses away so they can be disposed of. rob flett, bbc news, 0rkney.

more than a year after the loss of the titan submersible and its five passengers, a team of explorers are preparing to return to the site of the wreck of the titanic. the mission will see an unmanned craft carry out a detailed 3d scan of the world famous shipwreck over several weeks. let's speak to our science correspondent, rebecca morelle. she is at rhode island. tell us more about what this expedition hopes to achieve. i about what this expedition hopes to achieve. ., ., . ,, about what this expedition hopes to achieve. ., ., a ., , achieve. i am on the deck of this shi - , the achieve. i am on the deck of this ship. the sun — achieve. i am on the deck of this ship, the sun is _ achieve. i am on the deck of this ship, the sun isjust _ achieve. i am on the deck of this ship, the sun isjust coming - achieve. i am on the deck of this ship, the sun isjust coming up l achieve. i am on the deck of this l ship, the sun isjust coming up but the team here has been working through the night to get the last—minute preparations for the submersible for their journey to the most famous shipwreck in the world, the titanic. i am joined byjohn hammond from rms titanic inc, we are looking at one of the underwater robots here, there will not be any people on board but what will it be

doing? we people on board but what will it be doinu ? ~ ., ., ., doing? we have two unmanned submersible — doing? we have two unmanned submersible is, _ doing? we have two unmanned submersible is, this _ doing? we have two unmanned submersible is, this one - doing? we have two unmanned submersible is, this one in - submersible is, this one in particular— submersible is, this one in particular is being fixed with a camera — particular is being fixed with a camera that will capture extremely high—resolution imaging of the fields— high—resolution imaging of the fields and the wreck site, the other will digitally scan so we can pinpoint— will digitally scan so we can pinpoint locations where artefacts are uncovered and found. you will look at the _ are uncovered and found. you will look at the whole _ are uncovered and found. you will look at the whole site? _ are uncovered and found. you will look at the whole site? yes, - are uncovered and found. you will look at the whole site? yes, the l look at the whole site? yes, the coal is to look at the whole site? yes, the goal is to digitally _ look at the whole site? yes, the goal is to digitally preserve - look at the whole site? yes, the goal is to digitally preserve the l goal is to digitally preserve the wreck— goal is to digitally preserve the wreck site because it is deteriorating, it has been down there _ deteriorating, it has been down there for— deteriorating, it has been down there for a _ deteriorating, it has been down there for a long time and there are still artefacts we believe exist out there _ still artefacts we believe exist out there that are at risk of being lost fbraver— there that are at risk of being lost forever so— there that are at risk of being lost forever so it is important we not only— forever so it is important we not only document them for the sake of history. _ only document them for the sake of history. if— only document them for the sake of history, if we can target them for additional— history, if we can target them for additional recovery, we have recovered more than 5000 artefacts already— recovered more than 5000 artefacts already which are on display in exhibitions around the world and some _ exhibitions around the world and some are — exhibitions around the world and some are housed and cared for by our collections _ some are housed and cared for by our collections team. you

some are housed and cared for by our collections team.— collections team. you own the salva . e collections team. you own the salvage rights _ collections team. you own the salvage rights to _ collections team. you own the salvage rights to the - collections team. you own the salvage rights to the wreck, i collections team. you own the - salvage rights to the wreck, some people argue they should be regarded as a great site because so many people lost their lives. you are not recovering anything this time? —— some people argue they should be recorded as a grave site. we some people argue they should be recorded as a grave site.— some people argue they should be recorded as a grave site. we are not recoverin: recorded as a grave site. we are not recovering anything, _ recorded as a grave site. we are not recovering anything, we _ recorded as a grave site. we are not recovering anything, we are - recorded as a grave site. we are not recovering anything, we are getting| recovering anything, we are getting a digital— recovering anything, we are getting a digital records of the site and also _ a digital records of the site and also are — a digital records of the site and also are there any things putting a touch— also are there any things putting a touch further risk of being lost forever? — touch further risk of being lost forever? at the end of the day there are those _ forever? at the end of the day there are those of— forever? at the end of the day there are those of that opinion, we value their— are those of that opinion, we value their point— are those of that opinion, we value their point of view but for us it can impact— their point of view but for us it can impact people in so many ways from _ can impact people in so many ways from a _ can impact people in so many ways from a history standpoint and from a science _ from a history standpoint and from a science standpoint and we want to inspire _ science standpoint and we want to inspire the — science standpoint and we want to inspire the next generation of explorers. inspire the next generation of explorers-_ inspire the next generation of exlorers. , , ., ., , explorers. this is a poignant trip for the team _ explorers. this is a poignant trip for the team because _ explorers. this is a poignant trip for the team because the - explorers. this is a poignant tripj for the team because the person explorers. this is a poignant trip i for the team because the person he was meant to be leading this

expedition was one of the victims who died on the tyton submersible one year ago, but a plaque will be laid on the sea bed for him? this laid on the sea bed for him? as important as this expedition as it is also _ important as this expedition as it is also very— important as this expedition as it is also very poignant because of the loss last _ is also very poignant because of the loss last year, so the crew is looking — loss last year, so the crew is looking forward to memorialising ph in a way— looking forward to memorialising ph in a way that is meaningful to them and underscores how beloved and respected — and underscores how beloved and respected he was by the titanic community and the deep sea community. community and the deep sea community-— community and the deep sea communi . , ., community. does anything stand out? the marconi — community. does anything stand out? the marconi room _ community. does anything stand out? the marconi room is _ community. does anything stand out? the marconi room is one _ community. does anything stand out? the marconi room is one of— community. does anything stand out? the marconi room is one of the - the marconi room is one of the things, where the telegraph sent out titanic�*s distress signal? 0ne things, where the telegraph sent out titanic�*s distress signal? one of the key things we can do after this expedition as compared to the 2010 expedition as compared to the 2010 expedition and expedition as compared to the 2010 exedition . ., ., ~' expedition as compared to the 2010 exedition . ., ., expedition and look at the of the shi- expedition and look at the of the ship itself- _ expedition and look at the of the ship itself. it _ expedition and look at the of the ship itself. it is _ expedition and look at the of the ship itself. it is expected - expedition and look at the of the ship itself. it is expected there l expedition and look at the of the | ship itself. it is expected there is further— ship itself. it is expected there is further deterioration which might provide _ further deterioration which might provide an unobstructed point of entry— provide an unobstructed point of entry to — provide an unobstructed point of entry to further the cut and maybe

even _ entry to further the cut and maybe even recover part of the marconi. and you — even recover part of the marconi. and you will have an instrument on boards, a magnetomer, which will allow you to see what is below the settlement. this has not been done before? ., ., ., settlement. this has not been done before? ., . ., ., settlement. this has not been done before? ., ., ., ., ~ ., ., before? no, and we do not know what miaht before? no, and we do not know what mi . ht exist before? no, and we do not know what might exist out _ before? no, and we do not know what might exist out there _ before? no, and we do not know what might exist out there so _ before? no, and we do not know what might exist out there so this - before? no, and we do not know what might exist out there so this is - before? no, and we do not know what might exist out there so this is a i might exist out there so this is a way of— might exist out there so this is a way of understanding what could potentially be sight unseen. they will need good _ potentially be sight unseen. iie: will need good conditions, potentially be sight unseen. "iie: will need good conditions, it potentially be sight unseen. i““ie:1: will need good conditions, it is potentially be sight unseen. iiez1 will need good conditions, it is not easy operating in the middle of the north atlantic. it will be 20 days at the site?— north atlantic. it will be 20 days at the site? hopefully everything noes at the site? hopefully everything aoes well, at the site? hopefully everything goes well. but — at the site? hopefully everything goes well, but the _ at the site? hopefully everything goes well, but the one _ at the site? hopefully everything goes well, but the one thing i i at the site? hopefully everything i goes well, but the one thing i know for certain— goes well, but the one thing i know for certain is this is the best possible _ for certain is this is the best possible team, experts in each of their— possible team, experts in each of their disciplines and if anyone can -et their disciplines and if anyone can get it— their disciplines and if anyone can get it done, it is them. it their disciplines and if anyone can get it done, it is them.— get it done, it is them. it will take millions _ get it done, it is them. it will take millions of _ get it done, it is them. it will take millions of images i get it done, it is them. it will take millions of images and i get it done, it is them. it will- take millions of images and records hours of footage too. there are bound to be some surprises? the

second part _ bound to be some surprises? the second part of — bound to be some surprises? the second part of the mission of the discovery, — second part of the mission of the discovery, the exciting part, looking _ discovery, the exciting part, looking at areas of the debris field which _ looking at areas of the debris field which have never been looked at before _ which have never been looked at before and what might lie within, what _ before and what might lie within, what is _ before and what might lie within, what is important too as the custom camera _ what is important too as the custom camera is— what is important too as the custom camera is high—resolution but the lighting _ camera is high—resolution but the lighting array is also customised to minimise _ lighting array is also customised to minimise some of the shadows you would _ minimise some of the shadows you would get — minimise some of the shadows you would get from flat lighting. thank ou ve would get from flat lighting. thank you very much. — would get from flat lighting. thank you very much, john. _ would get from flat lighting. thank you very much, john. it _ would get from flat lighting. thank you very much, john. it will - would get from flat lighting. thank you very much, john. it will take i you very much, john. it will take four days to get to the wreck site, they will spend 20 days there, they will need a bit of luck for things to go to plan that we will be following the team throughout their expedition and looking forward to seeing what they find.— expedition and looking forward to seeing what they find. thank you, and is a beautiful _ seeing what they find. thank you, and is a beautiful sunrise - seeing what they find. thank you, and is a beautiful sunrise behind i and is a beautiful sunrise behind rebecca. part of the m25, britain's busiest motorway, is to be shut again in both directions for the entire weekend. the works to improve the highway between junctions 10 and 11 will begin this evening. drivers are being urged to plan ahead to minimise travel disruption.

hollywood stars ryan reynolds and huthackman have teamed up for what's being tipped as one of this year's big blockbuster films — deadpool and wolverine. reynolds, the owner of wrexham football club, said it had been a dream come true to finally work alongside his best friend. michael mckenzie went to meet them. slow motion action sequence, who knows if you live or die? who's next? it's tipped to be one of the big blockbuster movies of the year, deadpool and wolverine. trust me, kid, i'm no hero. this highly anticipated anti—hero film is set to make millions when it finally opens on the 26th ofjuly. ryan reynolds and huthackman were in london for a fan event. now, this film has been tipped to be, like, one of the biggest films of the year. i mean, is there any pressure there then? not now, now that the movie's locked and done. the only pressure — well, it's not pressure, it's sadness, because i was sad when we locked the movie and i would no longer have that playground. i would no longer get

to work on the movie. now it's going to be out in the world. and it more than — oh, my god, it lives up to the hype and then some. i think the movie's strength is that it's so unexpected. foryou, hugh, reprising the role of wolverine, what's that been like? i've had the greatest time in my life. i feel invigorated, i loved playing him. these guys wrote so beautifully and generously for me. at one point i have a monologue that has more words in it than i've said in an entire movie playing wolverine before. i can't not talk about the euros. you've been supporting it? yeah, we've been, we've been, we've been... how can you not? it's everywhere. imean, we...yeah. this place is going to go ballistic on sunday, because england's going to win 3—1. that was my next question — where are you going to be on sunday watching it? five seconds ago he said like, 9—4 was the score. who would say that? you did, you said it a second ago. you said harry kane was going to score like, triple digits or something. i was like, this is nuts. he's scoring four goals, but three will be disallowed. you didn't hear that bit. wow! yeah.

and then let's just say, right, gareth southgate picks you on sunday to be in the team, just one of you, would it be deadpool or wolverine? oh, i think it's going to be wolverine given that hugh has dual citizenship. yes, exactly! i can technically do it. canada, being a commonwealth, doesn't quite get you there as much as that, i think. not since vinnie jones has there been a real enforcer. i think we need an enforcer in football. somebody who's just out there clobbering, right? with a red card within the first minute. yeah, hockey does it. why can't we do it in football? i need someone to protect paul mullin and wrexham. please! get get me a big, just a vin — come on, vinnie. that's it, come on. well, brilliant. thank you. enjoy your fan event. and the film is in cinemas on the 26th ofjuly. michael mckenzie, bbc news. iimagine i imagine wolverine would puncture the balls with his long nails. now it's time for a look

at the weather with carol kirkwood. generally, today is going to be cloudy and cooler than it was yesterday. the other thing is the pollen levels are moderate or high, and we're talking grass and nettle pollen at this time of year. now what's happening is we've got a weak weather front which is travelling southwards. there's a lot of cloud around, that cloud thick enough for some patchy light rain and drizzle. this morning's rain clearing away from the south—east, but we've got some more showery outbreaks of rain coming into the north—west. you can see this ridge of high pressure trying to build in, and although there's a lot of cloud around, there will be some brighter breaks, the best of which are going to be across parts of central and southern scotland, where we'll see some sunny skies. some sunshine coming in to the east of northern ireland, but a lot of cloud across england and wales. some breaks now and again, perhaps the best ones across the south—west. but here, as temperatures rise, that could trigger a few sharp showers and you may well hear the odd rumble of thunder as well. temperatures 14 to 19 degrees with a northerly breeze. now, as we head on through

the evening and overnight, it remains fairly cloudy for most of us. still some patchy light rain coming out of that cloud and breezy down the north sea coastline. temperature—wise, well, it's not particularly cold. we're looking at 10 to about 12 degrees as our overnight lows. so, that leads us into tomorrow. again, tomorrow we've got high pressure out towards the west. we're watching this area of low pressure, which is quite close to us, and it could throw in some showers across some eastern areas. so, quite a bit of cloud to start the day tomorrow, the cloud thick enough for some showery outbreaks of rain and also some drizzle across the east. west is going to be brightest tomorrow, where we'll see the cloud break and some sunshine come through. but again, as temperatures rise, it could trigger off the odd shower. temperatures 13 to 19 degrees, so still below average for this stage injuly. and then as we move into sunday, well, this low pressure again not too far away from us, but it's pulling away towards scandinavia. then we're watching this next one, which could bring in some rain later on sunday and into monday,

even tuesday, as it moves across the uk. so, for sunday, a lot of cloud around, some breaks, some showers, the rain coming in later, and that rain is going to move northwards and eastwards through the course of monday and tuesday.

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live from london, this is bbc news. four migrants die and 63 are rescued. president biden says he is ready for another term in the white house despite making more gas at the nato summit in washington. i now want to hand it over to the president of ukraine, who has as much courage as he has determination, ladies and gentlemen, president putin. also at the summit, president zelensky urges nato allies to lift restrictions on the use of weapons against

targets inside russia. two suitcases containing human remains are found, please continue to search for this man. gareth southgate says england will have to be tactically perfect to beat spain on sunday's euros final. hello, i'm maryam moshiri. welcome to bbc news. four migrants have drowned while trying to cross the english channel in a small boat. the french navy responded to reports last night several people have gone overboard near the coast near boulogne—sur—mer. 63 people were rescued. yvette cooper, home secretary, has said, the further loss of life in the channel this morning is truly awful. criminal gangs are making vast profit from

putting lives at risk. we are accelerating action with international partners to pursue and bring down dangerous smuggler gangs. let us cross live to speak to the bbc political reporter, michael, in dover. bring us up to date with what we know about this incident. brute we know about this incident. - understand some time just after four o'clock this morning the alarm was raised on the front side of the water, close to boulogne—sur—mer. a boat carrying somewhere in the region of 67 people got into difficulty, and at that .4 people lost their lives close to boulogne—sur—mer. this was first reported by french media. there were calls for support from british boats, later stood down as the search and rescue operation continued on the french side of the waters. ~:: ,': continued on the french side of the waters. ~:: z: ., continued on the french side of the waters. ~:: z: ~' ,. waters. 603! think were rescued, four people _ waters. 603! think were rescued, four people found _ waters. 603! think were rescued, four people found unconscious i waters. 603! think were rescued, i four people found unconscious and they could not be saved —— 63 people

were rescued. what else has the french coastguard tells us? the search and _ french coastguard tells us? the search and rescue _ french coastguard tells us? iie search and rescue operation continues across the water as they continues across the water as they continue to look for anyone they could have missed in the search and rescue operation. from the weather today, it is windy, the sea is choppy. today, it is windy, the sea is choppy, conditions are not favourable for crossing, that is why there is such concerned people are taking a risk even in the most difficult of conditions.- difficult of conditions. record numbers have _ difficult of conditions. record numbers have been - difficult of conditions. record numbers have been coming i difficult of conditions. record i numbers have been coming across difficult of conditions. record - numbers have been coming across the channel over this summer, michael, haven't i? channel over this summer, michael, haven'tl? ~ , ., , haven't i? absolutely. i have been s-ueakin haven't i? absolutely. i have been speaking in _ haven't i? absolutely. i have been speaking in the — haven't i? absolutely. i have been speaking in the last _ haven't i? absolutely. i have been speaking in the last few _ haven't i? absolutely. i have been speaking in the last few minutes l haven't i? absolutely. i have been| speaking in the last few minutes to the local new labour anti about what has happened in the channel. —— the local new labour mp. the new centre labour want to set up to break the people smuggling gangs, the mp saying he was saddened to hear what

happened in the channel, but said it is so important labour gets on with breaking up the people smuggling gangs and works closely with the french to do so, saying conversation's had taken place earlier this week and they were looking forward to breaking up the gangs leading to incidents like this in the early hours here in dover. good to talk to you, thank you for that. president biden has insisted he remains the most qualified candidate to take on donald trump in november's presidential election despite making gaffes in front of world leaders at the nato summit. he mistakenly called the ukrainian leader president putin. later at news conference, he referred to his deputy kamala harris, as "vice president trump." 0ur north america editor sarah smith. applause world leaders at the nato summit have cringed when mr biden introduced a key european ally as his sworn enemy.

and now i want to hand over to the president of ukraine, who has as much courage as he has determination. ladies and gentlemen, president putin. president putin! he's going to beat president putin. president zelensky. i'm so focused on beating putin, we've got to worry about it. i'm better. you are a hell of a lot better. it was an unfortunate start to an event at which president biden was under intense scrutiny when he got the name of his own vice president kamala harris wrong. look, i wouldn't have picked vice president trump to be vice president if she wasn't qualified, so i will start there. the fact is that the consideration is that i think i'm the most qualified person to run for president. i beat him once, and i will beat him again. however, these were mr biden's only obvious mistakes. over the course of nearly an hour

of taking questions, there were no other slips like that, and president biden was discussing in depth the situation in ukraine, the war in the middle east, his domestic economic policy here in the united states, at great length, on some occasions. he made it clear he has no intention of pulling out of the presidential race, despite repeated questions about his fitness for office, and there was nothing in this performance that would force him to change his mind. i've taken three significant and intense neurological exams by a neurologist. in each case, as recent as february, and they say i'm in good shape, 0k? but after the event, more members of congress said they thought he should step aside. many don't know if he can, and many will be watching to see if he can actually get to november, given the crisis that is engulfing his candidacy right now. indicating this issue will continue to dog mr biden

as he campaigns for re—election. sarah smith, bbc news, washington. for more on the reaction to mr biden's gaffes, i spoke to cbs news reporter, jarred hill. he has been talking to us about the democratic pushback. they could be dozens _ about the democratic pushback. they could be dozens of _ about the democratic pushback. they could be dozens of democrats who over the _ could be dozens of democrats who over the next couple of days come out and _ over the next couple of days come out and suggest that president biden stepped _ out and suggest that president biden stepped down. we will have to wait and see _ stepped down. we will have to wait and see exactly how many it ends up being _ and see exactly how many it ends up being and _ and see exactly how many it ends up being and if— and see exactly how many it ends up being and if it comes to fruition. as you _ being and if it comes to fruition. as you mentioned, the numbers at this point— as you mentioned, the numbers at this point in— as you mentioned, the numbers at this point in particular among some of the _ this point in particular among some of the top _ this point in particular among some of the top democrats, in leadership, incredibly— of the top democrats, in leadership, incredibly small in relation to those — incredibly small in relation to those actively asking him to step aside _ those actively asking him to step aside in — those actively asking him to step aside in the 2024 race. what has been _ aside in the 2024 race. what has been interesting is seeing some of the softer— been interesting is seeing some of the softer language, sort of

reticent _ the softer language, sort of reticent support for president biden, — reticent support for president biden, the likes of nancy pelosi who said it _ biden, the likes of nancy pelosi who said it should be up to the president to decide if he runs in 2024. _ president to decide if he runs in 2024, despite the fact is planning to do— 2024, despite the fact is planning to do so — 2024, despite the fact is planning to do so. again there is reporting there _ to do so. again there is reporting there is— to do so. again there is reporting there is a — to do so. again there is reporting there is a possibility we could hear more _ there is a possibility we could hear more voices, how many, when and if it happens. _ more voices, how many, when and if it happens, we don't know. let more voices, how many, when and if it happens, we don't know.— it happens, we don't know. let us take ou it happens, we don't know. let us take you to _ it happens, we don't know. let us take you to another— it happens, we don't know. let us take you to another element i it happens, we don't know. let us take you to another element of. it happens, we don't know. let us i take you to another element of nato. the prime minister sir keir starmer has defended the us president saying mr biden and his team should be proud of their achievements at the nato summit. 0ur political editor chris mason sent this update from washington. he said lots of nato's members should be paying more, but inevitably, so much of the focus and questions from the reporters afterwards was about the remarks

from president biden, a few minutes before the prime minister arrived here. we have a stronger nato. we have a real sense of resolve. in the third of the sessions, the council sessions, the session with president zelensky there in relation to ukraine, there was a session that he described as a success because of the package coming out of it. and president biden led through all of that. that is an incredible achievement of this council. and when we think of the global threats, that is the best possible outcome we could have had today. and so i think he deserves credit for that. questions about president biden have dominated so many of the conversations here over the last few days. and those remarks just in the final minutes will guarantee that conversation will continue.

a small time ago i spoke to a former ambassador to the us, sir david manning. i asked, ambassador to the us, sir david manning. iasked, does ambassador to the us, sir david manning. i asked, does he think president biden should stand for re—election? i president biden should stand for reelection?— re-election? i think probably he shouldn't know. _ re-election? i think probably he shouldn't know. there - re-election? i think probably he shouldn't know. there is - re-election? i think probably he shouldn't know. there is a i re-election? i think probably he i shouldn't know. there is a terrific record, as the prime minister said, that president biden has had over the last three and a half, four years. he has got the american economy moving, he has certainly been instrumental in improving the transatlantic alliance and standing up transatlantic alliance and standing up for ukraine. i think the risk now is if he once again, and he cannot help getting older, he will prejudice his own legacy. if he were to lose, it is certainly the case, ex president trump were re—elected. i think probably the time is two for him to make way for a younger candidate. him to make way for a younger candidate-— candidate. you say younger candidate. _ candidate. you say younger candidate, one _ candidate. you say younger candidate, one of _ candidate. you say younger candidate, one of the i candidate. you say younger| candidate, one of the issues candidate. you say younger i candidate, one of the issues is there is no clear candidate who at least he believes could beat former

president trump?— president trump? well, he has not actually said _ president trump? well, he has not actually said that _ president trump? well, he has not actually said that as _ president trump? well, he has not actually said that as far _ president trump? well, he has not actually said that as far as - president trump? well, he has not actually said that as far as i - president trump? well, he has not actually said that as far as i know. i actually said that as far as i know. he has said he is quite clear his vice president kamala harris can do thejob. 0f vice president kamala harris can do thejob. of course if he vice president kamala harris can do the job. of course if he does start talking names, it suggests he is going to stand down. at the moment, not ready to make the concession. it looks as though he is back in one element of the democratic party against another. i don't think you can expect him to endorse anybody at the moment. they have a raft of good people in the democratic party and i'm quite sure they can come up with a very strong candidate if he stands aside. let a very strong candidate if he stands aside. , ., ., a very strong candidate if he stands aside. , ., ,, ., ,, aside. let us talk about sir keir starmer's _ aside. let us talk about sir keir starmer's visit _ aside. let us talk about sir keir starmer's visit to _ aside. let us talk about sir keir starmer's visit to washington. | aside. let us talk about sir keir i starmer's visit to washington. how do you think it went for him, his first big event on the international stage? it first big event on the international stare? ., ., ,, first big event on the international stare? ., ., , .. ,, ., stage? it looked a great success to me. iwas stage? it looked a great success to me- i was not _ stage? it looked a great success to me. i was not there _ stage? it looked a great success to me. i was not there so _ stage? it looked a great success to me. i was not there so i _ stage? it looked a great success to me. i was not there so i see - stage? it looked a great success to me. i was not there so i see what i j me. i was not there so i see what i see on the tv and so on. but it looked at me as though he handled it very well, with real authority. from his point of view, i think it is an excellent opportunity because in his

first week in office he not only had his first bilateral with the american president but he met the leaders of the other nato countries and a lot of those are european leaders and of course next week he is going to be hosting the european political meeting in britain at which many of them will be present. suddenly he has the opportunity to get to know his counterparts and to reaffirm britain's foreign and defence policies in those meetings. i think from his point of view it has been hugely productive. {lit has been hugely productive. of course a tougher stance on ukraine from keir starmer. is that the right thing to do at this point, do you think? i thing to do at this point, do you think? ~' thing to do at this point, do you think? ~ ., , ,., ., ., think? i think he was bound to have to make it very _ think? i think he was bound to have to make it very clear— think? i think he was bound to have to make it very clear in _ think? i think he was bound to have to make it very clear in his - think? i think he was bound to have to make it very clear in his first i to make it very clear in his first meeting, particularly at nato, where his administration stands on ukraine. i don't think anybody had any doubts that the new labour government would be 100% behind

ukraine. but of course this was the opportunity to re—state that and he did in the most uncompromising terms. 5ir did in the most uncompromising terms. ,, ., terms. sir david manning, former uk ambassador— terms. sir david manning, former uk ambassador to _ terms. sir david manning, former uk ambassador to the _ terms. sir david manning, former uk ambassador to the us, _ terms. sir david manning, former uk ambassador to the us, talking i terms. sir david manning, former uk ambassador to the us, talking to i terms. sir david manning, former uk ambassador to the us, talking to me j ambassador to the us, talking to me earlier. also at the summit, president zelensky urges nato allies to lift restrictions on the use of weapons against targets inside russia. it comes after monday's missile attack in cities across ukraine which killed many people. members have promised billions of pounds worth of military aid at nato, but as james waterhouse explains, the pledges were a fraction of what kyiv was hoping for. rocket! on monday, in a matter of hours, missiles overwhelmed ukraine's normally well—defended capital. and it's what they hit which made this one of the worst aerial assaults in this war.

this is kyiv�*s children's hospital, where some of the patients were being treated for cancer. it was a sight which drew worldwide attention and western condemnation. russia denied targeting civilian areas, but evidence to the contrary is mounting. and this was an attack which wasn't confined to one place or one hospital. cities across central and eastern ukraine were targeted. 14 people lost their lives here, and it took three days to find them from under the rubble. 0nce lived lives exposed by blown away walls. the country is paying a mounting human cost. five doctors in a kyiv clinic died in one of the strikes this week. as nato leaders gathered in washington, president zelenskyy couldn't contain his emotion. it's so difficult to lose children.

and of course, you know, you see these people, you see parents, and when their children are dying or dead, you want to kill putin at this moment. in the absence of battlefield progress, highlighting russian atrocities is kyiv�*s most potent weapon. sizeable western offerings have followed, including financial aid, the delivery of f—16fighterjets and much needed air defence systems. but ukraine got only a fraction of what it was after. in the centre of the capital, thousands of flags mark ukraine's fallen. it has long wanted nato membership and, after years of promises, no—one has ever said when, because of russia's ongoing invasion. and that takes us to the heart of ukraine's unknowns. can it withstand more attacks on its infrastructure? are the current levels of military

aid enough to carry it to victory? or will enduring defiance get it through? all questions brought to the fore by missile strikes which shocked the world. james waterhouse, bbc news, kyiv. dinners are set to be released after completing just 40% of the sentence —— some prisoners. the proposals are similar to those being considered by the conservatives. here is our correspondent. prisons are at bursting point. staff who work inside some of them have told us they've never seen it this bad, with the growing population constantly putting them under more pressure. prisons are full and we are in danger of having to close the doors and not let any new prisoners in. the latest issue, the fact that we are going to exceed the prison capacity that we are building, has been known

about or at least projected, for a matter of years. a couple of years, i would suggest. there has always been a hope that we were able to deliver new build prison capacity in time to enable us to just about cope with the way the prison population was going. in total, there are 83,380 men in prison in england and wales. for the system to operate smoothly and effectively, we understand there needs to be a minimum of 1,425 spaces. a senior prison source has told us there are 700 spaces left in male jails. later today, the newjustice secretary, shabana mahmood, will announce that some inmates on determinate sentences — that's those with a fixed end date — will be released after serving 40% of their sentence to create more room. this won't include serious offenders such as murderers and rapists. she's expected to explain that if prisons were to run out of places, police cells

would rapidly fill up, courts would be forced to delay cases, and police unable to arrest dangerous criminals, putting the public at risk from unchecked criminality on our streets. but this is likely to be an unpopular move with some victims of crime, who believe those who break the law should do their time. it could also make some people feel unsafe as more prisoners are released in one go. the strategy also raises questions for the probation service, which is already stretched and will have to monitor those released early on licence, increasing its workload. this is a short—term fix which should free up some cells quickly, but it's not clear what the government will do in the longer term to deal with the overcrowding. this is one of the first big tests for the new prime minister, just days into his premiership, and how it pans out could be an early mark of success or failure. sima kotecha, bbc news.

you can follow this story life with analysis from our team of specialists and get live video on the live page running right now on bbc news, on the website and the bbc app bbc news, on the website and the bbc app from wherever you are, if you are stepping away from the tv at any point. police in bristol are continuing the search for a man they want to question of the two suitcases containing human remains were found on clifton suspension bridge. avon and somerset police were called to reports of a man acting suspiciously at the bridge late on wednesday evening. here is our reporter fiona london. it is late on wednesday evening. here is our reporter fiona london.- our reporter fiona london. it is the second day — our reporter fiona london. it is the second day of— our reporter fiona london. it is the second day of a _ our reporter fiona london. it is the second day of a manhunt _ our reporter fiona london. it is the second day of a manhunt here i our reporter fiona london. it is the second day of a manhunt here in i second day of a manhunt here in bristol. the clifton suspension bridge behind me has now reopened. yesterday and usually it was closed for the entire day. there was a white forensic police tend towards the leigh woods and of the bridge. at a press conference yesterday, the

police told us on wednesday evening they received a calljust before midnight, there was a man acting suspiciously on the bridge, the police arrived within ten minutes. when they arrived, the man had vanished. they found two suitcases, one was on the bridge and one was just away from the bridge. they open them up, they found what they suspected the human remains. at the press conference yesterday, they released an image of the man who is black, wearing black clothes, a beard, a gold earring. the public are told not to approach him but to call 999 if they see him. the are told not to approach him but to call 999 if they see him.— call 999 if they see him. the man convicted of _ call 999 if they see him. the man convicted of plotting _ call 999 if they see him. the man convicted of plotting to _ call 999 if they see him. the man convicted of plotting to kidnap, i convicted of plotting to kidnap, rape and murder television presenter holly willoughby will be sentenced later. 37—year—old gavin plumb seen in his arrest last year was charged after he disclosed his plans online to an undercover police officer in

the us. in 2006, the former security guard from harlow received a suspended sentence for targeting two women in two separate incidences, one of the women has for the first time been speaking about the continued impact of the attack to our correspondent, charlotte gallagher. before gavin plumb plotted the kidnap, rape and murder of holly willoughby, he targeted four other women and teenage girls. maria is one of them. plumb attempted to kidnap herfrom a train. i remember the train being empty. there was another girl. she got onto the same carriage as i did. she sat somewhere in the middle, i went to the back, when i noticed that somebody came and sat right in front of me, and i thought, well, the carriage is empty. she's never spoken before about what happened to her, but she agreed to speak to me on the condition her voice was disguised. he passed me a note. i mean, ithought, it'sjust some piece of paper.

i didn't even look what he was doing, i ignored it. then, he pushed it forward for me to read. and when i read it, it was something, something along the lines of, "get off the train with me. "be quiet. "don't do anything. "get off the train with me and nothing will happen to anybody." he had a rope and replica gun on him. and as i read that note, it was only then i looked at the person. so, my first impression was that he is huge. i have no chance. so, there was this moment when i was just frozen and scared. but it was also disbelief. i thought, "maybe he'sjoking." i mean, it's absurd, but he started pointing and showing me to stay quiet, and he started approaching me with his hands. he held his hand on my knee and was indicating that we're going to go.

in the note it said, "get off with me at the next station." and after the initial freeze and disbelief, i realised what was going on. and i was frightened. that feeling was growing because i started realising that this massive man wants to get me off the train. i knew the next station is just a small village. at this point of time, there'll probably be nobody there. i mean, it's surrounded by bushes and woods, and i had all the worst scenarios cooking in my head. and i thought, if i get off that train, he can do anything. and so my thought was not to get off that train at any cost. the other woman in the carriage noticed maria was in distress and raised the alarm. gavin plumb fled but was arrested after trying to kidnap another woman from a train. he was given a suspended sentence for those crimes. he'd later go on to falsely imprison two teenage girls in the shop he worked at.

do you feel that if he'd have got a custodial sentence, if he'd been sent to prison after he did what he did to you, do you feel it may have stopped gavin plumb from committing the crimes he went on to do? i believe so, i believe that lack of punishment was only encouragement. he could go unpunished doing whatever he did. if he got away with it, why would he not try again? what happened with plumb has changed how maria views men. potentially, every man can be a perpetrator, and i understand that so many women think along the same lines. a large man sitting right next to a girl, that's potential danger. it's really sad, but that's just one of those takeaways from that unfortunate story for me, that when i look at men, i very often do that quickjudgement. so, what level of danger are they? and that's all men? when you see a man, you think, is this person dangerous to me? yes.

how did you feel when the holly willoughby case, it hit the newspapers, and presumably the police told you, "look, the person who did this to you has been arrested"? he did something that was bad enough to finally find him guilty and keep him in custody, to keep him away from society. i do feel for holly because obviously she had to go through it in the spotlight and it must be difficult. you do not want your name to be attached to a person like gavin plumb. and this is one of the reasons i want to remain anonymous. i don't want to be associated with him in any way. how do you feel about gavin plumb now, when you think about gavin plumb? i feel like he lost his life. anybody has capacity to have a wonderful life ahead of them. you just give in to some mad, sick fantasies, to your desires, to your ego, and you lose your life.

he has, in my eyes, nothing in life, and it makes him, in a way, more dangerous. you know, a person who has nothing to lose. no ability to control himself. i almost feel pity for him. charlotte gallagher, bbc news. now time for a look at the weather with carol. hello, again. generally, today is going to be cloudy and cooler than it was yesterday. the other thing is the pollen levels are moderate or high, and we're talking grass and nettle pollen at this time of year. now what's happening is we've got a weak weather front which is travelling southwards. there's a lot of cloud around, that cloud thick enough for some patchy light rain and drizzle, this morning's rain clearing away from the south—east,

but we've got some more showery outbreaks of rain coming into the north—west. you can see this ridge of high pressure trying to build in, and although there's a lot of cloud around, there will be some brighter breaks, the best of which are going to be across parts of central and southern scotland, where we'll see some sunny skies. some sunshine coming in to the east of northern ireland, but a lot of cloud across england and wales. some breaks now and again, perhaps the best ones across the south—west. but here, as temperatures rise, that could trigger a few sharp showers and you may well hear the rumble of thunder as well. temperatures 14 to 19 degrees with a northerly breeze. now, as we head on through the evening and overnight, it remains fairly cloudy for most of us. still some patchy light rain coming out of that cloud and breezy down the north sea coastline. temperature—wise, well, it's not particularly cold. we're looking at 10 to about 12 degrees as our overnight lows. so, that leads us into tomorrow. again, tomorrow we've got high pressure out towards the west. we're watching this area of low pressure, which is quite close to us, and it could throw in some showers across some eastern areas. so, quite a bit of cloud to start the day tomorrow, the cloud thick enough for some showery outbreaks of rain and also

some drizzle across the east. west is going to be brightest tomorrow, where we'll see the cloud break and some sunshine come through. but again, as temperatures rise, it could trigger off the odd shower. temperatures 13 to 19 degrees, so still below average for this stage injuly. and then as we move into sunday, well, this low pressure again not too far away from us, but it's pulling away towards scandinavia. then we're watching this next one, which could bring in some rain later on sunday and into monday, even tuesday, as it moves across the uk. so, for sunday, a lot of cloud around, some breaks, some showers, the rain coming in later, and that rain is going to move northwards and eastwards through the course of monday and tuesday.

this is bbc news, the headlines... four migrants die and 63 are rescued off the coast off boulogne after a boat capsized during an attempt to cross the english channel overnight. president biden insists he's ready for another term in the white house, despite making mores gaffes at the nato summit in washington. elsewhere at the summit, president zelensky urges nato allies to lift restrictions on the use of weapons against targets inside russia. a plan to free some inmates early

to help tackle prison overcrowding is set to be announced today. the man who plotted to kidnap, and more than a year after the loss of the titan submersible and its five passengers, a new mission will see an unmanned craft carry out a detailed 3d scan of the world famous shipwreck. the man suspected of killing the wife and two daughters of the bbc racing commentator, john hunt, in a crossbow attack, is reportedly in a serious condition in hospital, after he was found injured in a cemetery in north london — a crossbow was also found in the area. police are still waiting to speak to 26—year—old kyle clifford — the former boyfriend of one of the sisters who died. lucy manning has been in bushey, as friends paid tribute to the family. she sent this report. they are at peace... there is an enormous loss here, that can only be measured in tears. groups of friends of the hunt family came to comfort each other at a church vigil.

they came with memories, friendship and deep grief. to remember carol hunt, her daughters, 28—year—old hannah, a beautician, and 25—year—old louise, who ran a dog grooming business. a group of carol's oldest friends, together for decades, now with one missing. lovely family. i'll miss carol like crazy. because there was the four of us that were close friends, and i'lljust really miss her and i can't believe this has happened. can you tell me what she was like, carol? lovely girl. sweet, kind girl. always thought about her family, very family orientated. i just feel for their oldest daughter and john. ijust can't imagine what it would be like. she was the nicest, kindest, sweetest person. beautiful. beautiful person.

they had so much going for them. her and john built a fabulous life together, with the girls. and the girls were all successful in their businesses. and it'sjust taken away in an instant. sally would chat to hannah as she did her nails. she was just a really, really lovely, bubbly person, really great personality, and a very happy little soul. when someone is that happy, and then all their lives are just taken in such a barbaric way... the suspect in these killings, kyle clifford, we now know was the ex—boyfriend of louise hunt. a former soldier, he had also worked for a security firm. his older brother is in prison, convicted in 2018 of murder. searches at a house in enfield connected to his family continue today, as he remained in hospital

after the police found him with injuries, after the manhunt ended at a nearby cemetery. bbc racing commentatorjohn hunt has the sympathy and support of his community at work and at home. at newmarket, the racing paused. his wife and two of his daughters killed in their own home. three successful women remembered here. lucy manning, bbc news. some prisoners in england and wales are set to be released early, after completing 40 percent of their sentence under new government plans. the proposals, aimed at reducing overcrowding, are similar to those that were being looked at by the conservatives and are expected to apply to low—level offenders. earlier i asked our correspondent

harry farley what we can expect from justice secretary shabana mahmood. difficult decision and some stark warnings about the consequences of not acting. justice secretary shabana mahmood is expected to make a speech today, she will visit two prisons and we expect her in the speech to say prison overcrowding is catastrophic and requires immediate action to pull the justice system back from the brink of total collapse. the main part of the planet you hurt is to allow some prisoners to released early after 40% of the sentence —— the main part of the plan, as you heard. under the current arrangement prisoners with a fix and data are released after 50% and spend the rest on licence under certain conditions which, if they break, they can be returned to jail. so part of the plan is to release after 40% rather than 50% of their time in jail. after 40% rather than 50% of their time injail. government sources after 40% rather than 50% of their time in jail. government sources say serious violence and sexual offenders will not be included in

this but there are concerns from some about the possible implications for a rise in offending. the government argue the reason they have to do this as they have been forced into it by the failings of the previous government to tackle prison overcrowding that there are longer term questions too. this is a short—term emergency measure which will likely buy the government 18 months according to formerjustice secretary alex chalk. so after that does the government want to see fewer people going to prison, do they want to see average sentences reduced? those are some of the questions we can expect to be asked today. questions we can expect to be asked toda . , ., , ., , today. these are short-term fixes for what is — today. these are short-term fixes for what is a _ today. these are short-term fixes for what is a problem _ today. these are short-term fixes for what is a problem right - today. these are short-term fixes for what is a problem right now i today. these are short-term fixes for what is a problem right now in | for what is a problem right now in prisons but there are longer term issues? ,, . , ., ., ., , issues? sentences have gradually been inflated _ issues? sentences have gradually been inflated ever _ issues? sentences have gradually been inflated ever since - issues? sentences have gradually been inflated ever since the i issues? sentences have gradually been inflated ever since the 90s, | been inflated ever since the 90s, since john been inflated ever since the 90s, sincejohn major's government and under tony blair, average sentence lengths for prison time increased

dramatically and there has been a trend over the last three decades of politicians when faced about concerns about crime responding to those concerns by saying we will send people to prison for longer, we will be tougher on crime and increase sentences for all manner of crimes which has led to over a long period to the situation we are now into day. as you say, this is a short—term fix and there are questions about what the government will do in the longer term. we have not heard from the government what those are but perhaps a hint in the appointment ofjames timson as prisons minister, he has previously said about a third of people in prison should not be there at all so perhaps an indication of the government's direction of thought on those that is our correspondents harry farley. earlier i spoke to david shipley, a former inmate at wandsworth prison, who was jailed for fraud in 2020, and since his release has

worked as a consultant for the prisons inspectorate. at this stage it is inevitable we need to do early release, the prison system is full and we are close to the point where they will simply be nowhere to jail people, but the risk in releasing people early is we put more pressure on a probation service which is already suffering a staffing crisis and is struggling, by giving them more workload, and we see a spike in reoffending because the prisons have not done anything effective to reduce the chance of reoffending, which will mean more former prisoners being recalled and more pressure on the courts, so it is a very risk situation. give me insight into your experience at wandsworth prison and why after your experience that you decided to spend your time pushing for reform? i often say that my time at wandsworth prison radicalised me. i became enraged by how bad our prisons are, not only do they do very little good to help people turn their lights around but they often do lots of harm, they drive people into

addiction because in the uk over 60% of male prisoners spend at least 22 hours a day locked up in their cells, it is a huge waste of time. people are lying on bunk beds feeling miserable and depressed, often turning to substances as a way of coping, rather than developing skills, going into training or work, it is so wasteful. the former prisons minister rory stewart was on the radio 4 today programme and said the answer is to imprison fewer people, for less time, he said the conservatives and labour have competed with each other on being more ferocious and demanding longer sentences but they often make things worse. do you agree that people should go to prison for only very serious crimes and many more people just not go to prison? it is a difficult question. i think a lot of the public believe

many crimes should be punished with a prison sentence. for me i think it is less important how many people be sent to prison and for how long, and what is more important is what happens when they are there, and i think a prison system which works, helps people develop skills, become employable and leave prison with a job, a stable home and a social support network, would be far more effective in reducing crime. the challenge is that longer sentences, particularly for some crimes, are very popular and trying to fight that battle is pretty hard. that was david shipley, a former prisoner, with his assessment of what is happening in today because my prisons around england and wales. know something about supermarkets and business owners. some supermarkets and business owners say they're planning to give staff a lie—in on monday — to recover from watching england play spain in the final of the euros. the game starts at 8pm on sunday — and could last until 11pm if it goes to penalties.

please, no! a short time ago i spoke to sports journalist charlotte richardson. she said she believes england is getting better with each match. for england it has been a tournament we have really grown into. the group stages, the performances were not necessarily the most convincing, we were not seeing our attacking arsenalfiring on were not seeing our attacking arsenal firing on all cylinders were not seeing our attacking arsenalfiring on all cylinders but in the rock —— in the knockout rounds england had shown grit and determination and have sprinkled in some very magic moments, from jude bellingham's bicycle cake to saka's winning goal in extended extra time and the cool, calm classy strike from 0llie watkins in the semifinal which sees england make it to back—to—back european finals. just hoping that on sunday they can go one step forward and bring the silverware home.—

one step forward and bring the silverware home. what do you think will be key to _ silverware home. what do you think will be key to their _ silverware home. what do you think will be key to their success? - will be key to their success? manager gareth southgate says they will have to be tactically perfect, what does he mean by that? against sain we what does he mean by that? against spain we will — what does he mean by that? against spain we will have _ what does he mean by that? against spain we will have our— what does he mean by that? against spain we will have our tuffers - spain we will have our tuffers context of the tournament so far. of course it is a final but also spain have been on a fantastic winning streak in this competition. they are full of confidence and have a really great blend of experience with young, talented players. tactically i think midfield will be key territory, declan rice and kobbie mainoo, the teenager who has broken through with such maturity, i think will be essential. another part of the game that will prove important is the system gareth southgate chooses, in the last couple of matches he has played three defenders at the back and had england play with wingbacks which i think has been really useful because it has pushed england up the pitch and the territory they want to be

in, the final third, where the likes ofjude bellingham, phil foden and harry kane, i think that is where england are most dangerous so tactically i think making sure playing with confidence that can stifle spain a little bit will be key, refused to let them get into a passing rhythm which they have done so many occasions. they are fantastic, they knocked out hosts germany and put on a composed display against the french to reach the final. abs, display against the french to reach the final. �* , , , ., ., ., the final. a study little photo at the final. a study little photo at the end of— the final. a study little photo at the end of march, _ the final. a study little photo at the end of march, apologies, i the end of march, apologies, charlotte richardson talking to me earlier about the euros —— a funny little photo. if you want to why my voice is croaky it is because of all of the screaming and cheering i did at the semifinal, i hope it will be calmer on sunday —— if you are wondering why my voice is croaky. never to another story. —— now to another story.

the widow of the broadcaster michael mosley says she believes his legacy will bring real value to improving people's health. speaking as part of a special day across the bbc to honour the former doctor, dr clare bailey—mosley said she had been overwhelmed by the public response to michael's death. here she is on the today programme. just extraordinary and it has been completely overwhelming, the response. people really loved him, you know? they talk about it... one of the main thing is what people felt they really knew him, they lived in his kitchen and knew what he was cooking, almost. it was trusting and weirdly intimate. it has been so uplifting and hugely... so grateful for that. and so incredible that he has made such a difference to people. i am so proud of what he has done.—

difference to people. i am so proud of what he has done. doctor michael mosle 's of what he has done. doctor michael mosley's wife- _ of what he has done. doctor michael mosley's wife. now _ of what he has done. doctor michael mosley's wife. now to _ of what he has done. doctor michael mosley's wife. now to australia, i mosley's wife. now to australia, where a soldier and her husband have been arrested and charged with spying for russia. investigation say the couple, australian citizens with russian passports, attempted to show supplied information with moscow and officials are trying to establish whether any material was handed over but say there has been no compromising of military secrets. the charges were explained. thea;r the charges were explained. they have been charged _ the charges were explained. ii3:1 have been charged with one count each of preparing for an espionage offence which carries a maximum penalty of 15 years imprisonment. they will appear before brisbane magistrates�* court today. the afp will allege the individuals worked together to access australian defence force material that related to australia's national security interests. we allege the woman was undertaking non—declared to travel to russia whilst she was on long—term leave

from the australian defence force. we allege that whilst she was in russia, she instructed her husband, who remained in australia, on how to log into her official work account from their brisbane home. we allege her husband would access requested material and would send to his wife in russia. we allege they sought that information with the intention of providing it to russian authorities. whether that information was handed over remains a key focus of our investigation. "hugely emotional" is how rescuers have described the scene on a beach in 0rkney, after the biggest mass stranding of pilot whales for decades. nearly 80 of the animals, including many calves, died after washing ashore at tresness beach on the island of sanday — from where rob flett sent us this report.

sanday�*s beaches are renowned for their outstanding natural beauty. yesterday morning, islanders discovered a scene of devastation. 77 pilot whales beached along the shoreline, some of the largest up to seven metres long, weighing as much as eight tonnes. rescuers say it was a horrible sight. we had at least eight animals that were still alive. uh, so we've been very busyjust trying to sort out logistics of how we're going to deal with it, because we've obviously very remote. we don't have a lot of kit, we don't have a lot of manpower. so it's been incredibly difficult trying to sort that out. we've also been fighting an incoming tide, um, with animals that are incredibly heavy, so we've got no way of moving them. the family group included males and females, calves and juveniles. 12 of the animals were still alive. they were tended to by the rescue team while vets across the country were consulted on what to do next. the soft sand thwarted any efforts

to right the whales before they could be refloated. experts decided there was no chance they could be saved and the remaining whales were euthanised. now attention is turning to establishing why this happened. sadly, this is becoming more common. this is... it used to be quite unusual to have a mass stranding event, certainly of this size. but over the last ten years or so, we've seen an increase both in the number of mass stranding events around scotland and also the size of them, as in the number of animals that it involves. so that is slightly concerning. and that might be because there are just more animals out there. or it could be that there are more hazards that these animals are exposed to. these people came here to rescue these whales. sadly, now all that's left to do is record them. that process will take the next few days. then local farmers will come and take these corpses away

so they can be disposed of. rob flett, bbc news, 0rkney. let's bring you some breaking news. the sentencing of the man convicted of plotting to kidnap, rape and murder television presenter holly willoughby is under way. 37—year—old gavin plumb, who you can see here during his arrest last year, was charged after disclosing his plans online to an undercover police officer in the us. in 2006 the former security guard from harlow received a suspended sentence from targeting two women in two separate incidents. there is live coverage on the bbc news website right now, if you want to be taken to that, scan the qr codes you can see on screen. we also expect to hear a statement which will be read out from holly

willoughby too, the qr code is what you need to scan if you want to go live to that continuous coverage on the bbc news website offers opening comments. i will tell you this, here on the bbc news channel we will take you there too when the sentencing is read out. if you are keen right now to go to the live coverage, please do so through the qr code, but if you stay with me, we will take you there as and when it happens. more than a year after the loss of the titan submersible and its five passengers, a team of explorers are preparing to return to the site of the wreck of the titanic. the mission will see an unmanned craft carry out a detailed 3d scan of the world famous shipwreck over several weeks. 0ur science correspondent rebecca morelle can tell us more about the

mission and what it hopes to achieve. i mission and what it hopes to achieve. ., ., , , , achieve. i am on the ship, the sun has come out _ achieve. i am on the ship, the sun has come out here that _ achieve. i am on the ship, the sun has come out here that the - achieve. i am on the ship, the sun has come out here that the team i achieve. i am on the ship, the sun i has come out here that the team has been working through the night to get their underwater robots ready. they will be setting sail for the north atlantic in a few hours to see the most famous shipwreck in the world, the titanic. i am joined the most famous shipwreck in the world, the titanic. iam joined by john hammond from rms titanic inc, the company leading the operation. we have the remote operated vehicle here, no people will be on board but what will this be doing as it dives? this is one of two which are going to the _ this is one of two which are going to the site. — this is one of two which are going to the site, this is fitted on the front— to the site, this is fitted on the front with _ to the site, this is fitted on the front with a very high resolution camera — front with a very high resolution camera. we are looking to capture the most _ camera. we are looking to capture the most detailed images of the wreck— the most detailed images of the wreck site and the debris field ever captured, — wreck site and the debris field ever captured, we hope to see it in a detail— captured, we hope to see it in a detail never seen before. you are particularly _ detail never seen before. you are particularly interested _ detail never seen before. you are particularly interested in - detail never seen before. you are particularly interested in the i particularly interested in the debris field because as the ship

splits apart as it sank down 3800 metres, the contents spilled out? yes, there are so many artefacts yet to be _ yes, there are so many artefacts yet to be seen— yes, there are so many artefacts yet to be seen or— yes, there are so many artefacts yet to be seen or discovered and that is the big _ to be seen or discovered and that is the big focus of this expedition. with— the big focus of this expedition. with a _ the big focus of this expedition. with a high resolution cameras as well as— with a high resolution cameras as well as the — with a high resolution cameras as well as the 3d scanning technology that exists on the second rov, not only do— that exists on the second rov, not only do we — that exists on the second rov, not only do we hope to explore those unseen _ only do we hope to explore those unseen areas but also discover unseen — unseen areas but also discover unseen artefacts.— unseen areas but also discover unseen artefacts. rms titanic and because the _ unseen artefacts. rms titanic and because the salvage _ unseen artefacts. rms titanic and because the salvage rights... i unseen artefacts. rms titanic and because the salvage rights... thisj because the salvage rights... this is strictly imaging and research but we hope _ is strictly imaging and research but we hope the detailed imaging will uncover— we hope the detailed imaging will uncover artefacts that we believe exist _ uncover artefacts that we believe exist down there, checking on the state _ exist down there, checking on the state of— exist down there, checking on the state of deterioration, they have been _ state of deterioration, they have been a _ state of deterioration, they have been a deep sea for many, many years

and our— been a deep sea for many, many years and our goal— been a deep sea for many, many years and our goal is to recover what is recoverable — and our goal is to recover what is recoverable before they are lost forever~ — recoverable before they are lost forever. , , ., ., forever. this is not without controversy. _ forever. this is not without controversy, what - forever. this is not without controversy, what would i forever. this is not without i controversy, what would you say forever. this is not without - controversy, what would you say to people who say this should be left alone as a grave site, 1500 people lost their lives in 1912 on the maiden voyage?— lost their lives in 1912 on the maiden voyage? certainly we acknowledge _ maiden voyage? certainly we acknowledge everyone i maiden voyage? certainly we j acknowledge everyone has... maiden voyage? certainly we - acknowledge everyone has... titanic at such— acknowledge everyone has... titanic at such a _ acknowledge everyone has... titanic at such a passionate community and create _ at such a passionate community and create such— at such a passionate community and create such passionate discussion, so there _ create such passionate discussion, so there are — create such passionate discussion, so there are many perspectives on titanic. _ so there are many perspectives on titanic. we — so there are many perspectives on titanic. we hold the perspective that it _ titanic. we hold the perspective that it is — titanic. we hold the perspective that it is worth holding on preserving and conserving these artefacts — preserving and conserving these artefacts in the history and more importantly the stories the passengers they belong to which through— passengers they belong to which through the artefacts is how we tell the stories— through the artefacts is how we tell the stories of the people on board titanic. _ the stories of the people on board titanic, both are living and those who perished, and if we stop that we stop learning everything we can't notjust_ stop learning everything we can't not just about stop learning everything we can't notjust about the stop learning everything we can't not just about the time periods and the history— not just about the time periods and the history but the people. it is

'ust over the history but the people. it is just over one — the history but the people. it is just over one year— the history but the people. it 3 just over one year since the titan submersible disaster and this will be particularly poignant for the team because one of the five people who died was ph nargeolet, a veteran underwater explorer, who was meant to be leading this expedition? this will be a very. _ to be leading this expedition? this will be a very, very poignant expedition. many of our expedition team _ expedition. many of our expedition team were — expedition. many of our expedition team were very close to ph nargeolet tail and _ team were very close to ph nargeolet tail and worked with him for many years. _ tail and worked with him for many years, conducted many expeditions with ph. _ years, conducted many expeditions with ph. they will be taking down a plague _ with ph. they will be taking down a plague in _ with ph. they will be taking down a plaque in honour of ph and his work and what _ plaque in honour of ph and his work and what he — plaque in honour of ph and his work and what he has given to the deep sea community, the research community and the titanic community. are there _ community and the titanic community. are there any— community and the titanic community. are there any items in particular you are invited —— you are interested in looking at? i know marconi telegraph, the machine that sent out the titanic�*s distress signals on that fateful night?

whatever we ask the titanic community what artefacts they are most _ community what artefacts they are most intrigued by all would most like to— most intrigued by all would most like to see recovered, the marconi telegraph— like to see recovered, the marconi telegraph it's always at the top of the list. _ telegraph it's always at the top of the list. i— telegraph it's always at the top of the list. i think it is the thing that— the list. i think it is the thing that embodies so many aspects of what makes titanic such a great story. _ what makes titanic such a great story. there are other artefacts we believe _ story. there are other artefacts we believe might be down there, one of our lead _ believe might be down there, one of our lead researchers believes that he sees _ our lead researchers believes that he sees remains of a piano, perhaps a second _ he sees remains of a piano, perhaps a second grand piano that might've been _ a second grand piano that might've been on _ a second grand piano that might've been on the ship, so with high resolution— been on the ship, so with high resolution camera and the 3d scanning _ resolution camera and the 3d scanning we hope to see whether there _ scanning we hope to see whether there was— scanning we hope to see whether there was really a second grand piano _ there was really a second grand piano that— there was really a second grand piano that might be retrievable. the words piano that might be retrievable. words would piano that might be retrievable. ii3: words would have rotted piano that might be retrievable. iij: words would have rotted away? piano that might be retrievable. the words would have rotted away? it i words would have rotted away? it will be the interior, the metal strings— will be the interior, the metal strings and potentially the keys. the wood — strings and potentially the keys. the wood would have rotted away? at what happens to the artefacts when you recover them? flil" what happens to the artefacts when you recover them?— you recover them? our collections team works _ you recover them? our collections team works diligently _ you recover them? our collections team works diligently to _ you recover them? our collections team works diligently to conserve | team works diligently to conserve and preserve them for all time. in a

few hours the _ and preserve them for all time. in a few hours the team _ and preserve them for all time. ii a. few hours the team set off, and preserve them for all time. ii —.j few hours the team set off, it and preserve them for all time. ii a; few hours the team set off, it will take four days to get to the site, 20 hours to explore edge, and we will follow them to see exactly what they find. —— 20 days to explore it. more on the sentencing of the man plotting to kidnap, rape and murder television presenter holly willoughby. that sentencing is under way and as you can see on your screen there is a qr code which you can scan if you want to be taken straight to our live coverage currently taking place on the bbc website. if you want to stay with us then we will be covering the sentencing as and when it happens that we have had a few more details on the last few minutes. we have heard in court a statement read out by the church in private which was requested by holly willoughby, a statement from her. the kc, alison

morgan, has said the impact plumb's offending has been life changing for the victims in private, public and professional terms. the victims in private, public and professionalterms. she the victims in private, public and professional terms. she has had the effect has been impossible to convey. being informed of the consequences, intentions and detail of the evidence in this case, it is inevitable that has exacerbated the trauma for this victim. inevitable that has exacerbated the trauma for this victim. of course, the victim tv presenter holly willoughby say she is forever grateful to the undercover police officer who understood the imminent threat, and to the metropolitan and essex police forces for their swift response. so that is the sentencing which we will bring you live on bbc news of gavin plumb who was found guilty of plotting to kidnap, rape and murder the television presenter holly willoughby. the qr code is that if you want to be taken to that live coverage on the bbc website.

here on the bbc news channel we will continue with our broadcasting of other stories but we will take you to that courtroom as and when we can. now let's take a brief break from news and take you to the weather with carol. hello again. generally, today is going to be cloudy and cooler than it was yesterday. the other thing is the pollen levels are moderate or high, and we're talking grass and nettle pollen at this time of year. now what's happening is we've got a weak weather front which is travelling southwards. there's a lot of cloud around, that cloud thick enough for some patchy light rain and drizzle, this morning's rain clearing away from the south—east, but we've got some more showery outbreaks of rain coming into the north—west. you can see this ridge of high pressure trying to build in, and although there's a lot of cloud around, there will be some brighter breaks, the best of which are going to be across parts of central and southern scotland, where we'll see some sunny skies. some sunshine coming in to the east of northern ireland, but a lot of cloud across england and wales. some breaks now and again, perhaps the best ones across the south—west.

but here, as temperatures rise, that could trigger a few sharp showers and you may well hear the rumble of thunder as well. temperatures 14 to 19 degrees with a northerly breeze. now, as we head on through the evening and overnight, it remains fairly cloudy for most of us. still some patchy light rain coming out of that cloud and breezy down the north sea coastline. temperature—wise, well, it's not particularly cold. we're looking at ten to about 12 degrees as our overnight lows. so that leads us into tomorrow. again, tomorrow we've got high pressure out towards the west. we're watching this area of low pressure, which is quite close to us, and it could throw in some showers across some eastern areas. so quite a bit of cloud to start the day tomorrow, the cloud thick enough for some showery outbreaks of rain and also some drizzle across the east. west is going to be brightest tomorrow, where we'll see the cloud break and some sunshine come through. but again, as temperatures rise it could trigger off the odd shower. temperatures 13 to 19 degrees,

so still below average for this stage injuly. and then as we move into sunday, well, this low pressure again not too far away from us, but it's pulling away towards scandinavia. then we're watching this next one, which could bring in some rain later on sunday and into monday, even tuesday as it moves across the uk. so for sunday a lot of cloud around, some breaks, some showers, the rain coming in later, and that rain is going to move northwards and eastwards through the course of monday and tuesday. live from london. this is bbc news. president biden is expected to face more calls — from within his party to stand aside after his gaffes overshadow the end of the nato summit in washington. and now i want to hand over to the president of ukraine, who has as much courage as he has determination.

ladies and gentleman, president putin. four migrants die and 63 are rescued after a boat capsized overnight in the english channel. the sentencing of the man who plotted to kidnap, rape and murder tv presenter holly willoughby is under way, as another woman he attacked tells the bbc he could have been stopped sooner. a plan to free some inmates early to help tackle prison overcrowding is set to be announced today. and manager gareth southgate says england will have to be "tactically perfect" to beat spain in sunday's euro 2024 final. very warm welcome to bbc this morning. the us president — joe biden — is expected to face more calls today from dozens of democratic party politicians to step aside as a candidate for re—election, after two embarrassing gaffes

marred the end of the nato summit in washington. last night he mistakenly introduced the ukrainian leader as president putin. then, at a news conference, referred to his deputy, kamala harris, as "vice president trump". but mr biden has again hit back at his critics, insisting he's the most qualified person to take on donald trump in november. i spoke to a former us ambassador and began by asking him what he thinks about president biden and whether he believes he should be re—elected. i whether he believes he should be re-elected-_ re-elected. i think you probably shouldn't know, _ re-elected. i think you probably shouldn't know, there _ re-elected. i think you probably shouldn't know, there is - re-elected. i think you probably shouldn't know, there is a i re-elected. i think you probably i shouldn't know, there is a terrific record that president biden has had over the last three and a half to four years, over the last three and a half to fouryears, he over the last three and a half to four years, he has got the american economy using, he has been instrumental in improving the transatlantic alliance and standing up transatlantic alliance and standing up for ukraine, and the risk now is if he runs again, he cannot help

getting older, he will prejudice his own legacy. if he loses, that is certainly the case. the time is for him to make way for a younger candidate. him to make way for a younger candidate-— him to make way for a younger candidate. ., , , , , candidate. one of the issues here is that there is — candidate. one of the issues here is that there is no _ candidate. one of the issues here is that there is no clear _ candidate. one of the issues here is that there is no clear candidate i candidate. one of the issues here is that there is no clear candidate who | that there is no clear candidate who at least he believes could beat former president trump. iie at least he believes could beat former president trump. he has not actually said — former president trump. he has not actually said that, _ former president trump. he has not actually said that, he _ former president trump. he has not actually said that, he has _ former president trump. he has not actually said that, he has said i former president trump. he has not actually said that, he has said he i actually said that, he has said he is clear that his vice president could do thejob. if he does is clear that his vice president could do the job. if he does start talking names, that suggests he will stand down. it looks as though he is backing one element of the democratic party against another. i don't think you can expect him to endorse anybody currently, but there is a raft of good people in the democratic party and i'm sure they can come up with a strong candidate if he stands aside.—

if he stands aside. let's talk about sir keir starmer's _ if he stands aside. let's talk about sir keir starmer's visit _ if he stands aside. let's talk about sir keir starmer's visit to - sir keir starmer's visit to washington. how did that go for him, his first big event on the international stage? his first big event on the internationalstage? it his first big event on the international stage? it looked a . reat international stage? it looked a great success — international stage? it looked a great success to _ international stage? it looked a great success to me, _ international stage? it looked a great success to me, i - international stage? it looked a great success to me, i was i international stage? it looked a great success to me, i was not| international stage? it looked a i great success to me, i was not there so i see what i see on the tv and so on. it looked like he handled it very well, with authority. it is an excellent opportunity, in his first week in office, he not only had his first bilateral meeting with the president but he met the leaders of the other nato countries, and a lot of those are european leaders and of course next week he is going to be hosting european political meeting in britain. many of them will be present. —— present. suddenly he has chance to get to know his counterpart and to reaffirm his foreign and defence policies in those meetings. his point of view,

it's been hugely productive. and a it's been hugely productive. and a tou~her it's been hugely productive. and a tougher stance _ it's been hugely productive. and a tougher stance on _ it's been hugely productive. and a tougher stance on ukraine - it's been hugely productive. and a tougher stance on ukraine from i it's been hugely productive. and a tougher stance on ukraine from keir starmer. is that the right thing to do? he starmer. is that the right thing to do? . . starmer. is that the right thing to do? . , , ., starmer. is that the right thing to do? ., , ,., ., ., starmer. is that the right thing to do? ., ., . ., starmer. is that the right thing to do? .,, ., ., ., ., ,, do? he was bound to have to make ve clear do? he was bound to have to make very clear in _ do? he was bound to have to make very clear in his _ do? he was bound to have to make very clear in his first _ do? he was bound to have to make very clear in his first meeting, i very clear in his first meeting, particularly at nato, where his administration stands on ukraine. don't think anybody had any doubts that any labour government would be 100% behind ukraine but this is an opportunity to restate that and he did so in the most uncompromising terms. . . , did so in the most uncompromising terms. . ., , ., terms. that was the former ambassador _ terms. that was the former ambassador of _ terms. that was the former ambassador of the - terms. that was the former ambassador of the uk - terms. that was the former ambassador of the uk to i terms. that was the formerl ambassador of the uk to the terms. that was the former - ambassador of the uk to the eight states. president biden is under pressure from some areas within the democratic party to step down, to not go for election. let's speak to jarred hill, cbs correspondent, who joins us from new york. talk us through the pressure on him. the pressure is increasing, more democrats within congress coming out

to say they think he should step down as the nominee, and the reason we are starting to hear more so now is because they feel he is not an effective communicator of the successes of his presidency and there are concerns among democrats that having him at the top could potentially spell chaos for the rest of the democratic runners in the senate as well as in the house of representatives. we also him the possibility that now this nato summit has ended, there could possibly be dozens or more democrats come out to say biden should step aside. we will have to see when that happens if it happens and the level of democrat, are these people in leadership that come out to make those statements? we don't know yet. who are those calling on him to go? most recently only one senator, one

sitting senator has come out, peter welch out of vermont, as well as a dozen or so members of the house saying he should step down. we have also heard from more popular progressive names in the house of representatives, including aoc, who said he should stay in the race and we should get behind him. there have been members who are in leadership positions within their committees who have come out to say they believe the president should step down but so far nobody that is on top of the party. in down but so far nobody that is on tap of the party-— top of the party. in terms of an obvious successor _ top of the party. in terms of an obvious successor if _ top of the party. in terms of an obvious successor if he - top of the party. in terms of anl obvious successor if he decided top of the party. in terms of an - obvious successor if he decided not to stand for election, there is talk of a couple of names.—

to stand for election, there is talk of a couple of names. yes, from what we have heard — of a couple of names. yes, from what we have heard from _ of a couple of names. yes, from what we have heard from some _ of a couple of names. yes, from what we have heard from some democrats| we have heard from some democrats who have ventured into this territory, even as they support president biden, they say if anyone it would be vice president kamala harris. president biden did not say yesterday if they should be a successor if he were to step down because then there would be an acknowledgement he will not continue with the race. he has said he believes that his vice president is qualified for the job, to believes that his vice president is qualified for thejob, to be president, he said he would not have picked out otherwise. great president, he said he would not have picked out otherwise.— picked out otherwise. great to talk to ou. picked out otherwise. great to talk to yom thank— picked out otherwise. great to talk to you. thank you. _ 37—year—old gavin plumb, seen here in his arrest last year, is being sentenced this year. he was charged after disclosing his plans to

undercover police officer from the united states. in 2006 as security guard —— the security guard received a suspended sentence for targeting two women. one of those women has been speaking to our correspondence. before gavin plumb plotted the kidnap, rape and murder of holly willoughby, he targeted four other women and teenage girls. maria is one of them. plumb attempted to kidnap herfrom a train. i remember the train being empty. there was another girl. she got onto the same carriage as i did. she sat somewhere in the middle, i went to the back, when i noticed that somebody came and sat right in front of me, and i thought, well, the carriage is empty. she's never spoken before about what happened to her, but agreed to speak to me on the condition her voice was disguised. he passed me a note. i mean, ithought, it'sjust some piece of paper.

i didn't even look what he was doing, i ignored it. then, he pushed it forward for me to read. and when i read it, it was something, something along the lines of, "get off the train with me. be quiet." um... "don't do anything. "get off the train with me and nothing will happen to anybody." he had a rope and replica gun on him. and as i read that note, it was only then i looked at the person. so my first impression was that he is huge. i have no chance. so, there was this moment when i was just frozen and scared. but it was also disbelief. i thought, maybe he'sjoking. i mean, it's absurd, but he started pointing and showing me to stay quiet, and he started approaching me with his hands. he held his hand on my knee and was indicating that we're going to go. in the note it said, "get off

with me at the next station." and after the initial freeze and disbelief, i realised what was going on. and i was frightened. that feeling was growing because i started realising that this massive man wants to get me off the train. i knew the next station is just a small village. at this point of time, there'll probably be nobody there. i mean, it's surrounded by bushes and woods, and i had all the worst scenarios cooking in my head. and i thought, if i get off that train, he can do anything. and so my thought was not to get off that train at any cost. the other woman in the carriage noticed maria was in distress and raised the alarm. gavin plumb fled but was arrested after trying to kidnap another woman from a train. he was given a suspended sentence for those crimes. he'd later go on to falsely imprison two teenage girls in the shop he worked at.

do you feel that if he'd have got a custodial sentence, if he'd been sent to prison after he did what he did to you, do you feel it may have stopped gavin plumb from committing the crimes he went on to do? i believe so, i believe that lack of punishment was only encouragement. he could go unpunished doing whatever he did. if he got away with it, why would he not try again? what happened with plumb has changed how maria views men. potentially, every man can be a perpetrator, and i understand that so many women think along the same lines. a large man sitting right next to a girl, that's potential danger. it's really sad, but that's just one of those takeaways from that unfortunate story for me, that when i look at men, i very often do that quickjudgement. so, what level of danger are they? and that's all men? when you see a man, you think, is this person dangerous to me?

yes. how did you feel when the holly willoughby case, it hit the newspapers, and presumably the police told you, "look, the person who did this to you has been arrested"? he did something that was bad enough to finally find him guilty and keep him in custody, to keep him away from society. i do feel for holly because obviously she had to go through it in the spotlight and it must be difficult. you do not want your name to be attached to a person like gavin plumb. and this is one of the reasons i want to remain anonymous. i don't want to be associated with him in any way. how do you feel about gavin plumb now, when you think about gavin plumb? i feel like he lost his life. anybody has capacity to have a wonderful life ahead of them. you just give in to some mad, sick fantasies, to your desires, to your ego, and you lose your life.

he has, in my eyes, nothing in life, and it makes him, in a way, more dangerous. you know, a person who has nothing to lose. no ability to control himself. i almost feel pity for him. charlotte gallagher, bbc news. the sentencing of gavin —— of gavin plumb is taking place now. there is a qr code on screen to be taken to our live coverage of this event. we will take you there when the key moment happens, when it happens, not sure when that is but it should be soon. let's bring use breaking news coming into us, this is regarding an attack that happened last night. we are hearing a 17—year—old boy has

been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder and religiously aggravated public order offence after two women were injured in gravesend, at a seek place of worship. nobody was seriously injured but two women required medical attention for cuts and bruises and a bladed weapon was recovered from the scene. this is of our attempting to attack —— a male attempting to attack women in gravesend. kent police have said, we understand communities are concerned relating to the event but we are treating it as an isolated incident. patrols will remain in the area for reassurance and without the community for ongoing support and assistance. to reiterate, a 17—year—old boy has been arrested on attempted murder and religiously

aggravated public order offence. more get it on bbc news. —— more as we get it. four migrants have drowned while trying to cross the english channel in a small boat. french rescue workers came to the help of about that got into difficulty after coast and it brings to 20 are people who have died trying to make the crossing this year alone. the inflatable boat were 60 people, set out from the french coast at around 2am, weather conditions were poor and two hours later they got themselves into difficulty. fishing boat and coastguard vessel were joined by french navy patrol boats and a helicopter. most migrants were saved and brought back to france but four of the migrants drowned. around

12,000 migrants are estimated to have come to england on small boats since january. let's speak to immigration policy expert, zoe gardner. so many people are trying to make this crossing and tragically more have lost their lives overnight. what can be done to stop this? what what can be done to stop this? what we need to do _ what can be done to stop this? what we need to do and _ what can be done to stop this? wusgt we need to do and what what can be done to stop this? writ we need to do and what is with every single one of these deaths are more desperate and more urgent for us to do is to recognise the reality that there is no policing our way out of our responsibility to protect a small proportion of the people around the world who seek protection in places like the uk, to recognise that responsibility and offer them safe alternatives to these smuggler boats. that is the only thing in the long—term will ever stop them from being forced into these situations where people die. the most important thing for us to remember is that

these four individuals, each one of their lives matted and was important and we must not become desensitised by the continuous repetition of these types of stories, to think it is normal, it is not normal and it has it is created by our policies that seek to turn people away. they will never work, we must offer people alternatives and solutions or we will keep hearing about these stories. ,., , a ., stories. governments quick to turn u . stories. governments quick to turn u- -- stories. governments quick to turn up -- tear — stories. governments quick to turn up -- tear up _ stories. governments quick to turn up -- tear up the _ stories. governments quick to turn up -- tear up the rwanda - stories. governments quick to turn up -- tear up the rwanda pill. - stories. governments quick to turn up -- tear up the rwanda pill. we | up —— tear up the rwanda pill. we talk about illegal ways, but what does that plan look like? == talk about illegal ways, but what does that plan look like? -- legal wa s. it does that plan look like? -- legal ways- it is — does that plan look like? -- legal ways- it is a _ does that plan look like? -- legal ways. it is a real— does that plan look like? -- legal ways. it is a real challenge - does that plan look like? -- legal ways. it is a real challenge but i does that plan look like? -- legal| ways. it is a real challenge but the labour government will never have as much power as it has right now, they have just won each mandate, they are in power with a significant majority, they have the ability to change the direction more significantly into one that embraces

reality and that aims to save people's lives and for the uk to play our part. in practice, that is going into negotiations with neighbours across europe, taking the lead in europe, to turnaround the current status quo so that every country seeks to be hostile —— that every country seeks to be hostile to push migrants to seek asylum in their neighbour instead. we say that they should stay in france whereas france says they should stay in italy because that is to the east of us, and on and on. we must come together to recognise people need solutions and pushing people away does not work and only resulted in deaths. it means providing people with travel documents to enter the uk to seek asylum. the labour government have said they will run

an asylum system that is the birmingham, but is more than the last government. they refused —— the bare minimum. they put people on barges and direction scrolling conditions. if the labour government will run a credible, fair and efficient asylum system, they must give people access to it. then people can cross safelyjust like you or i would cross. it is not inherently dangerous, it needs to be made safer. inherently dangerous, it needs to be made safer-— inherently dangerous, it needs to be made safer. ., ~ , ., ., ., ~ made safer. thank you for taking the time to speak _ made safer. thank you for taking the time to speak to _ made safer. thank you for taking the time to speak to us _ made safer. thank you for taking the time to speak to us today. _ plans to release prisoners early to stop jails becoming full are set to be announced today. it's expected to apply to low—level offenders, who could be released after serving 40% of their sentence. there are just over 83,000 male prisoners in england and wales. the bbc understands that for the system to operate smoothly and efficiently, there needs to be a minimum of 1,425 available spaces.

but a source has told the bbc there are currently only 700 spaces. i spoke to david shipley, a former inmate at wandsworth prison who was jailed for fraud in 2020. since inmate at wandsworth prison who was jailed forfraud in 2020. since his release, he has worked as a consultant for the prisons inspectorate. i think at this stage it's inevitable that we have to do early releases and the prison system is full, and we're quite close to the point at which there would simply be nowhere to jail people. the risk, though, is that injust releasing lots of people early, we put more pressure on the probation service, which is already suffering a staffing crisis and is struggling, by giving them more workload, and that we just see a spike in reoffending because the prisons haven't done anything really effective to reduce

the chance of people re—offending. and that will mean more prisoners, more former prisoners being recalled and more pressure on the courts. so it's a very high risk situation. give me a bit of insight into your experience at wandsworth prison and why it is that after your experience there, you decided to try and push for reform, to spend your time doing that? sure. i mean, i often say that my time at wandsworth prison radicalised me. ijust became enraged by how had our prisons are. and not only did they do very little good to help people turn their lives around, they often do a lot of harm. they drive people into addiction because, you know, in the uk, over 60% of male prisoners spend at least 22 hours a day locked up in their cells. it's just a huge waste of time. people are lying on their bunk beds feeling miserable, feeling depressed, often turning to substances as a way of coping rather than, you know, building skills, going into training, going into work, anything like that. it's so wasteful. and the former prisons minister rory stewart was on radio four today programme earlier, and he said, you know, the answer here is to put fewer people in prison for less time. he said that the conservatives and labour have competed

with each other on being more and more ferocious and demanding longer and longer sentences, but the long sentences for many people actually makes things worse. do you agree with that assessment? should people be going to prison for only very serious crimes and many more people just not go to prison at all? i think it's a difficult question. i mean, a lot of the public, i think, believe that many crimes should be punished with a prison sentence. for me, i think it's less important how many people we're sending to prison for how long, and what's much more important is what happens when they're there. and i think a prison system which works, which helps people develop skills, you know, become employable and leave prison with a job, a permanent or stable home to live in and a social support network would be far more effective at reducing crime. i think the challenge is that longer sentences, particularly for some crimes, are very popular. and i think trying to fight that battle is pretty hard. that was former convict david shipley giving me his take on where we are prisons.

let's speak to sian williams, ceo of switchback — a charity that aims to help young men find a way out of the justice system. good to speak with you today. if you tell me what action do we need to sort out what clearly is a problem of overcrowding in prisons? thank ou, such of overcrowding in prisons? thank you. such an _ of overcrowding in prisons? thank you, such an important _ of overcrowding in prisons? thank you, such an important issue. - of overcrowding in prisons? thank you, such an important issue. we| you, such an important issue. we work with young men leaving prison and returning to london, and we have seen horrific increases in what we call recall, when someone is released from prison but does not meet licence conditions according to the probation officer and our recall to prison. there has been a 78% growth in the number of recalls over the last ten years. that tells us that when people are released, it is not particularly guarantee they will be able to stay out of prison. one look at this problem, which is overcrowding in prisons, there are too many people in prison estates and you have just heard from david,

and you have just heard from david, and others throughout the morning, prisons are not doing rehabilitation well, they are not able to give the people skills and support, but also mental health support. when they leave prison they cannot build a new life. we work with young men leaving prison and our goal is you do not go back, you can build a stable and rewarding life. the reoffending rate in this country is horrific. about one in five people are back inside within a year, realistically we think that is outrageous. we have got that down to one intent. reason for that is because give people what they need on release. can for that is because give people what they need on release. cami for that is because give people what they need on release.— they need on release. can i ask you what ou they need on release. can i ask you what you told _ they need on release. can i ask you what you told me _ they need on release. can i ask you what you told me about _ they need on release. can i ask you what you told me about recall - they need on release. can i ask you what you told me about recall and i what you told me about recall and that issue? you have any figures on whether people are recalled because they are doing something like missing a meeting or if they are truly a risk to society? how many —— do we know who is one of the other?

it's very difficult to get statistics, our anecdotal evidence is that recall is unpredictable. there were working with who had been recalled, it is often that they have missed a meeting or two in a row and have not been able to let their probation officer know what is going on. it is rare that there is actual reoffending or a risk to the public. it is easy to blame probation service but every probation officer a caseload that is off the scale and it is hard for them. we often see people with a maximum of five mitts with their probation officer during the entire period on probation. that will not help anyone. it will not help probation officers know who to recall. we don't think there is transparency around the data, we are having a conversation with the probation service to understand that better, because if you come out of prison on licence and do not know what you will be recalled for, that is difficult too.—

is difficult too. good to talk to ou, is difficult too. good to talk to you. thank — is difficult too. good to talk to you. thank you _ is difficult too. good to talk to you, thank you for _ is difficult too. good to talk to you, thank you for taking - is difficult too. good to talk to you, thank you for taking the l is difficult too. good to talk to - you, thank you for taking the time to speak with us. police in bristol are continuing their search for a man they want to question after two suitcases containing human remains were found on clifton suspension bridge. avon and somerset police were called to reports of a man acting suspiciously at the bridge late on wednesday evening. our reporter fiona lamdin had this update. we are on the second day of a manhunt here in bristol. the clifton suspension bridge has now reopened but unusually it was closed for the entire day yesterday. there was a white forensic police tend towards the end of the bridge. —— tent. at a press conference police told us that on the wednesday evening they'd had a call after reports of a man acting suspiciously on the clifton suspension bridge. police arrived within ten minutes and when they arrived, the man had

vanished but they found two suitcases. one is on the bridge and one isjust away suitcases. one is on the bridge and one is just away from the bridge. when they opened them, they found what they suspect to be human remains. they released an image of the man at the press conference. he is black with a beard, dressed in black clothes, black trainers with white soles. the public have been told not to approach him. if they see him, they should call 999. more on that story on the bbc website and we are continuing our coverage of that kidnap plot sentencing. the qr code there can be scanned if you want to go to our live coverage right now for the sentencing of gavin plumb. if you are staying here on bbc news channel, we can look now at what is in store with whoever carol. —— with

carol. hello, again. generally, today is going to be cloudy and cooler than it was yesterday. the other thing is the pollen levels are moderate or high, and we're talking grass and nettle pollen at this time of year. now what's happening is we've got a weak weather front which is travelling southwards. there's a lot of cloud around, that cloud thick enough for some patchy light rain and drizzle, this morning's rain clearing away from the south—east, but we've got some more showery outbreaks of rain coming into the north—west. you can see this ridge of high pressure trying to build in, and although there's a lot of cloud around, there will be some brighter breaks, the best of which are going to be across parts of central and southern scotland, where we'll see some sunny skies. some sunshine coming in to the east of northern ireland, but a lot of cloud across england and wales. some breaks now and again, perhaps the best ones across the south—west. but here, as temperatures rise, that could trigger a few sharp showers and you may well hear the rumble of thunder as well. temperatures 1a to 19 degrees with a northerly breeze.

now, as we head on through the evening and overnight, it remains fairly cloudy for most of us. still some patchy light rain coming out of that cloud and breezy down the north sea coastline. temperature—wise, well, it's not particularly cold. we're looking at 10 to about 12 degrees as our overnight lows. so, that leads us into tomorrow. again, tomorrow we've got high pressure out towards the west. we're watching this area of low pressure, which is quite close to us, and it could throw in some showers across some eastern areas. so, quite a bit of cloud to start the day tomorrow, the cloud thick enough for some showery outbreaks of rain and also some drizzle across the east. west is going to be brightest tomorrow, where we'll see the cloud break and some sunshine come through. but again, as temperatures rise, it could trigger off the odd shower. temperatures 13 to 19 degrees, so still below average for this stage injuly. and then as we move into sunday, well, this low pressure again not too far away from us, but it's pulling away towards scandinavia. then we're watching this next one, which could bring in some rain later on sunday and into monday, even tuesday, as it moves across the uk. so, for sunday, a lot of cloud around, some breaks, some showers,

the rain coming in later, and that rain is going to move northwards and eastwards through the course of monday and tuesday.

this is bbc news. the headlines: the sentencing of the man who plotted to kidnap, rape and murder tv presenter holly willoughby is under way, as another woman he attacked tells the bbc he could have been stopped sooner. four migrants die and 63 are rescued after a boat capsized overnight in the english channel. president biden is expected to face more calls from within his party to stand aside after gaffes

overshadow the end of the nato summit in washington. a plan to free some inmates early to help tackle prison overcrowding is set to be announced today four migrants have drowned while trying to cross the english channel in a small boat. the french navy responded to reports last night, that several people had gone overboard off the coast near boulogne sur mer. 60 people were rescued. the home secretary, yvette cooper said... let's speak now wih peter walsh, senior researcher at oxford university's migration observatory. lets go back and think about for a

moment what the main industries are here, what is allowing so many people to cross the channel in this way, a dangerous endeavour. the initial drivers _ way, a dangerous endeavour. ira: initial drivers are conditions way, a dangerous endeavour. ii2 initial drivers are conditions of conflict, repression and countries of origin. the most common nationality crossing the channel these days is afghan. we know why some people come from the most chaotic or challenging parts of the world, iran, iraq, syria, yemen. the other question is, why the uk? why not france? most of these individuals do claim asylum and large majorities are successful in their claims are processed. print them to the uk is the presence of family members, the english language, the perception of the uk as a safe, democratic country. that is the bigger picture of why we see people continuing to cross in such

numbers. , , , , people continuing to cross in such numbers. , , ,, ., , numbers. there is pressure on this new government. _ numbers. there is pressure on this new government, as _ numbers. there is pressure on this new government, as with - numbers. there is pressure on this new government, as with the - numbers. there is pressure on this new government, as with the old, | numbers. there is pressure on this i new government, as with the old, to do something to sort this out. what options are left now that the rewind the bill has been effectively torn up the bill has been effectively torn up by the bill has been effectively torn up by the new government? labour? a- roaches up by the new government? labour? approaches and _ up by the new government? labour? approaches and enforcement - up by the new government? labour? approaches and enforcement heavy i approaches and enforcement heavy approach. there are questions that could be raised about the efficacy of this approach, not least because the previous government invested a lot of money, a lot of resources and enforcement, and on the ground alongside their french counterparts with wide powers of investigation and arrest, so there are these questions about how this enforcement heavy approach will succeed the previous approach had rather limited success. what do you think the answer is? there are no easy solutions, i'm afraid. there are limits to an enforcement approach. there are about 300 kilometres of

viable coastline here which is a lot of coastline to police. the people most immediately involved work in small groups. you apprehend one group and another seems to emerge in its place. the seniorfigures in the smuggling operations operate far beyond thejurisdiction smuggling operations operate far beyond the jurisdiction of the uk and countries like afghanistan and turkey. it is an extremely difficult phenomenon to try to reduce. peter welch, it phenomenon to try to reduce. peter welch. it has _ phenomenon to try to reduce. peter welch, it has been _ phenomenon to try to reduce. peter welch, it has been really _ phenomenon to try to reduce. peter welch, it has been really good to talk to you. thanks for taking the time to speak to us. the man suspected of killing the wife and two daughters of the bbc racing commentator john hunt in a crossbow attack is reportedly in a serious condition in hospital, after he was found injured in a cemetery in north london a crossbow was also found in th area. police are still waiting to speak to 26—year—old kyle clifford the former boyfriend of one of the sisters who died.

lucy manning has been in bushey, as friends paid tribute to the family. they are at peace... there is an enormous loss here, that can only be measured in tears. groups of friends of the hunt family came to comfort each other at a church vigil. they came with memories, friendship and deep grief. to remember carol hunt, her daughters, 28—year—old hannah, a beautician, and 25—year—old louise, who ran a dog grooming business. a group of carol's oldest friends, together for decades, now with one missing. lovely family. i'll miss carol like crazy. because there was the four of us that were close friends, and i'lljust really miss her and i can't believe this has happened. can you tell me what she was like, carol? lovely girl. sweet, kind girl. always thought about her family, very family orientated.

i just feel for their oldest daughter and john. ijust can't imagine what it would be like. she was the nicest, kindest, sweetest person. beautiful. beautiful person. they had so much going for them. her and john built a fabulous life together, with the girls. and the girls were all successful in their businesses. and it'sjust taken away in an instant. sally would chat to hannah as she did her nails. she was just a really, really lovely, bubbly person, really great personality, and a very happy little soul. when someone is that happy, and then all their lives are just taken in such a barbaric way... the suspect in these killings, kyle clifford, we now know was the ex—boyfriend of louise hunt. a former soldier, he had also worked

for a security firm. his older brother is in prison, convicted in 2018 of murder. searches at a house in enfield connected to his family continue today, as he remained in hospital after the police found him with injuries, after the manhunt ended at a nearby cemetery. bbc racing commentatorjohn hunt has the sympathy and support of his community at work and at home. at newmarket, the racing paused. his wife and two of his daughters killed in their own home. three successful women remembered here. lucy manning, bbc news. let's bring in an update on our breaking news story. you can see on

your screen as a qr code and more information on the kidnap plot story. gavin plumb is being sentence after being found guilty of planning to rape, kidnap and murder holly willoughby. he is in court, or the court is hearing from the prosecutor, alison morgan. we talk to you about the statements from the tv presenter holly willoughby, talking about the impact this case has had on her life. in the last few minutes alison morgan is continuing to argue that a life sentence should be imposed on gavin plumb. she said these are offences where it is clear from their nature and persistence there is a clear, significant risk to the public of serious harm. only a life sentence would be appropriate. this is the sentencing of gavin plumb. we have live and

continuous coverage of the sentencing on our website. you can scan the qr code on the screen. if you want to stay with mary here on bbc news we will take you to that sentencing when the key moment begins. that is coverage of the court case. president zelensky has urged nato leaders to drop all restrictions on its use of western supplied weapons to strike targets inside russia. it comes after monday's missile attack on cities across ukraine, which killed 43 people. the nato summit has seen members promise billions more pounds worth of military aid. but, as our ukraine correspondent, james waterhouse explains, the pledges were a fraction of what kyiv was hoping for. on monday, in a matter of hours, missiles overwhelm ukraine's normally well defended capital.

explosion and it's what they hit which made this one of the worst aerial assaults in this war. this is kyiv�*s children's hospital, where some of the patients were being treated for cancer. it was a site which drew worldwide attention and western condemnation. russia denied targeting civilian areas, but evidence to the contrary is mounting. and this was an attack which wasn't confined to one place or one hospital. cities across central and eastern ukraine were targeted. 1a people lost their lives here, and it took three days to find them from under the rubble. once lived lives exposed by blown away walls. the country is paying a mounting human cost. five doctors in a kyiv clinic died in one of the strikes this week. as nato leaders gathered in washington, president zelensky couldn't contain his emotion.

it's so difficult to lose children. and of course, you know, you see these people, you see parents, and then, when their children are dying or dead, so it's... you want to kill putin at this moment. in the absence of battlefield progress, highlighting russian atrocities is kyiv�*s most potent weapon. sizeable western offerings have followed, including financial aid, the delivery of f—16fighterjets and much needed air defence systems. but ukraine got only a fraction of what it was after. in the centre of the capital, thousands of flags mark ukraine's fallen. it has long wanted nato membership, and after years of promises no one has ever said when, because of russia's ongoing invasion. and that takes us to the heart of ukraine's unknowns.

can it withstand more attacks on its infrastructure? are the current levels of military aid enough to carry it to victory, or will enduring defiance get it through? all questions brought to the fore by missile strikes which shocked the world. james waterhouse, bbc news, kyiv. some breaking news know about the case of the triple murder in pushy. we are getting a statement from the police in bedfordshire, cambridgeshire and hertfordshire boss matt major crime unit, and that a man has been arrested. at 26—year—old man from enfield was arrested on thursday evening on suspicion of three counts of murder. this is the statements from the bedfordshire, cambridgeshire and

hertfordshire major crime unit. he said, ourthoughts hertfordshire major crime unit. he said, our thoughts remain with the victims because my family at this time. the investigation is moving at pace and as a result we have now arrested a man. inquiries are continuing at this time. so we know that the man remains in a serious condition in hospital. we have no further update expected today in relation to this investigation. that is the arrest of a 26—year—old man in connection with that triple murder which happened on tuesday evening. of course, we will bring you more if we get it, but it looks to me like there will be no further updates today. the widow of the broadcaster michael mosley says she believes his legacy will bring real value to improving people's health. speaking as part of a special day across the bbc to honour the former doctor, dr clare bailey mosley said she had been overwhelmed by the public response to michael death. speaking on the today programme this

morning, dr clare bailey mosley talked about her husband's legacy. extraordinary. it has been completely overwhelming, their response. people really loved him. they talk about it. one of the main things was that people felt they really knew him, that they lived in his kitchen, and knew what he was cooking, almost. it was very sort of trusting and weirdly intimates. it has just been uplifting and i am so grateful for that. has just been uplifting and i am so gratefulforthat. it has just been uplifting and i am so gratefulfor that. it is has just been uplifting and i am so grateful for that. it is so incredible that he has made such a difference to people. i'm so proud of what he has done.

more than a year after the loss of the titan submersible and its five passengers, a team of explorers are preparing to return to the site of the wreck of the titanic. the mission will see an unmanned craft carry out a detailed 3d scan of the world famous shipwreck over several weeks. tell us more about what this 3d mission wants to achieve. you 'oin us here in — mission wants to achieve. you 'oin us here in providence i mission wants to achieve. you 'oin us here in providence rhode h mission wants to achieve. you join | us here in providence rhode island where we will set sail in about four or five hours to go out to the titanic wreck site in the north atlantic. it is about four kilometres down on the sea bed. they will take these remotely operated vehicles. this is the main one, it has lots of cameras on it. you can see these three cylinders here. these are cameras that will get extraordinary imagery. i run them, lots of lighting. it will make the

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to do. _ resolution imaging we will be able to do. as — resolution imaging we will be able to do, as well as laser scanning to hopefully— to do, as well as laser scanning to hopefully identify artefacts that we believe _ hopefully identify artefacts that we believe we have seen in our earlier mission _ believe we have seen in our earlier mission we — believe we have seen in our earlier mission. we are hoping to discover new artefacts that have never been seen before. can new artefacts that have never been seen trefore— new artefacts that have never been seen before. can you explain to me what the fascination _ seen before. can you explain to me what the fascination is _ seen before. can you explain to me what the fascination is with - seen before. can you explain to me what the fascination is with the i what the fascination is with the titanic? it is more than 100 years since it went on. you see people at your exhibition, what it is about the titanic that draws people? it all something dear to everybody and it depends _ all something dear to everybody and it depends who you ask. some are drawn— it depends who you ask. some are drawn in_ it depends who you ask. some are drawn in by— it depends who you ask. some are drawn in by the romance and history of the _ drawn in by the romance and history of the times, the people on board, who survived and he didn't come at the first— who survived and he didn't come at the first and — who survived and he didn't come at the first and second class passengers on the different narratives that we love to tell at our exhibits. also the science and engineering aspects. why did the ship sank— engineering aspects. why did the ship sank so fast? there was so much to he _ ship sank so fast? there was so much to he learnt— ship sank so fast? there was so much to be learnt about the engineering and science of it all. there are so many _ and science of it all. there are so many entry— and science of it all. there are so many entry points to titanic, i

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breaking news story. police have made an arrest after that triple murder in pushy. helen is outside the property where the murder took place. bring us up to date. haste the property where the murder took place. bring us up to date.— place. bring us up to date. we have 'ust had a place. bring us up to date. we have just had a statement _ place. bring us up to date. we have just had a statement in _ place. bring us up to date. we have just had a statement in the - place. bring us up to date. we have just had a statement in the last i place. bring us up to date. we have just had a statement in the last few| just had a statement in the last few minutes from hertfordshire police. in that statement they have said that a man has now been arrested in connection with a triple murder. that happened on tuesday evening at a housejust that happened on tuesday evening at a house just down the road at the end of the cul—de—sac out of sight where investigations are continuing. the 26—year—old man from enfield was arrested on thursday evening, so yesterday evening, on suspicion of three counts of murder. police are not naming him, but the man arrested is kyle clifford, 26 years old, from enfield. he remains in a serious condition in hospital. you will

remember that huge manhunt that went on for a number of hours on wednesday after police put out that very public appeal to try to find kyle clifford, the suspect in this investigation. he was found in a cemetery in enfield in north london with injuries. he was taken to hospital on wednesday and he remains in a london hospital in a serious condition that breaking news in the last couple of moments that kyle clifford, 26 years old, has been arrested on suspicion of three counts of murder. the incident happened on tuesday here in this very quiet town of bushey and hertfordshire. the three victims were found with serious injuries in the house and paramedics, there was a huge emergency response, paramedics, tablets crews, police came to the scene and did their very

best to try to save them, but all three died at the scene. that news in the last couple of moments that kyle clifford, 26 years old from enfield, has been arrested on suspicion of three counts of murder. thank you. there is more on that story on our website. some supermarkets... some supermarkets and business owners say they're planning to give staff a lie in on monday to recover from watching england play spain in the final of the euros. the game starts at 8pm on sunday and could last until 11pm if it goes to penalties. a short time ago i spoke to sports journalist charlotte richardson. we all

remember that let's move swiftly on. hello, again. generally, today is going to be cloudy and cooler than it was yesterday. the other thing is the pollen levels are moderate or high, and we're talking grass and nettle pollen at this time of year. now what's happening is we've got a weak weather front which is travelling southwards. there's a lot of cloud around, that cloud thick enough for some patchy light rain and drizzle, this morning's rain clearing away from the south—east, but we've got some more showery outbreaks of rain coming into the north—west. you can see this ridge of high pressure trying to build in, and although there's a lot of cloud

around, there will be some brighter breaks, the best of which are going to be across parts of central and southern scotland, where we'll see some sunny skies. some sunshine coming in to the east of northern ireland, but a lot of cloud across england and wales. some breaks now and again, perhaps the best ones across the south—west. but here, as temperatures rise, that could trigger a few sharp showers and you may well hear the rumble of thunder as well. temperatures 1a to 19 degrees with a northerly breeze. now, as we head on through the evening and overnight, it remains fairly cloudy for most of us. still some patchy light rain coming out of that cloud and breezy down the north sea coastline. temperature—wise, well, it's not particularly cold. we're looking at ten to about 12 degrees as our overnight lows. so that leads us into tomorrow. again, tomorrow we've got high pressure out towards the west. we're watching this area of low pressure, which is quite close to us, and it could throw in some showers across some eastern areas. so quite a bit of cloud to start the day tomorrow, the cloud thick enough for some showery outbreaks of rain and also some drizzle across the east. west is going to be brightest tomorrow, where we'll see

the cloud break and some sunshine come through. but again, as temperatures rise it could trigger off the odd shower. temperatures 13 to 19 degrees, so still below average for this stage injuly. and then as we move into sunday, well, this low pressure again not too far away from us, but it's pulling away towards scandinavia. then we're watching this next one, which could bring in some rain later on sunday and into monday, even tuesday as it moves across the uk. so for sunday a lot of cloud around, some breaks, some showers, the rain coming in later, and that rain is going to move northwards and eastwards through the course of monday and tuesday.

live from london. this is bbc news. a man suspected of killing three women in a crossbow attack in hertfordshire has been arrested on suspicion of murder. carol hunt, wife of bbc racing commentatorjohn hunt, died alongside her daughters. four migrants die and 63 are rescued after a boat capsized overnight in the english channel. the sentencing of the man who plotted to kidnap, rape and murder tv presenter holly willoughby is under way, as another woman he attacked tells the bbc he could have been stopped sooner.

president biden is expected to face more calls from within his party to stand aside after his gaffes overshadow the end of the nato summit in washington. a plan to free some inmates early to help tackle prison overcrowding is set to be announced today. and manager gareth southgate says england will have to be "tactically perfect" to beat spain in sunday's euro 2024 final. a very warm welcome to bbc. accord has been told of the life changing impact of a plan to kidnap, rape and murder holly willoughby. gavin plumb is being sentenced this

morning, charged after disclosing plans unwittingly online to an undercover police officer in the united states. back in 2006, the former security guard from harlow received a suspended sentence for targeting two women in separate incidents, one of those women has for the first time been speaking about the continuing impact of the attack to our correspondent charlotte gallagher. before gavin plumb plotted the kidnap, rape and murder of holly willoughby, he targeted four other women and teenage girls. maria is one of them. plumb attempted to kidnap herfrom a train. i remember the train being empty. there was another girl. she got onto the same carriage as i did. she sat somewhere in the middle, i went to the back, when i noticed that somebody came and sat right in front of me, and i thought, well, the carriage is empty. she's never spoken before about what happened to her, but agreed to speak to me on the condition her voice was disguised. he passed me a note. i mean, ithought, it'sjust

some piece of paper. i didn't even look what he was doing, i ignored it. then, he pushed it forward for me to read. and when i read it, it was something, something along the lines of, "get off the train with me. be quiet." um... "don't do anything. "get off the train with me and nothing will happen to anybody." he had a rope and replica gun on him. and as i read that note, it was only then i looked at the person. so my first impression was that he is huge. i have no chance. so, there was this moment when i was just frozen and scared. but it was also disbelief. i thought, maybe he'sjoking. i mean, it's absurd, but he started pointing and showing me to stay quiet, and he started approaching me with his hands. he held his hand on my knee and was indicating that we're going to go.

in the note it said, "get off with me at the next station." and after the initial freeze and disbelief, i realised what was going on. and i was frightened. that feeling was growing because i started realising that this massive man wants to get me off the train. i knew the next station is just a small village. at this point of time, there'll probably be nobody there. i mean, it's surrounded by bushes and woods, and i had all the worst scenarios cooking in my head. and i thought, if i get off that train, he can do anything. and so my thought was not to get off that train at any cost. the other woman in the carriage noticed maria was in distress and raised the alarm. gavin plumb fled but was arrested after trying to kidnap another woman from a train. he was given a suspended sentence for those crimes.

he'd later go on to falsely imprison two teenage girls in the shop he worked at. do you feel that if he'd have got a custodial sentence, if he'd been sent to prison after he did what he did to you, do you feel it may have stopped gavin plumb from committing the crimes he went on to do? i believe so, i believe that lack of punishment was only encouragement. he could go unpunished doing whatever he did. if he got away with it, why would he not try again? what happened with plumb has changed how maria views men. potentially, every man can be a perpetrator, and i understand that so many women think along the same lines. a large man sitting right next to a girl, that's potential danger. it's really sad, but that's just one of those takeaways from that unfortunate story for me, that when i look at men, i very often do that quickjudgement. so, what level of danger are they? and that's all men?

when you see a man, you think, is this person dangerous to me? yes. how did you feel when the holly willoughby case, it hit the newspapers, and presumably the police told you, "look, the person who did this to you has been arrested"? he did something that was bad enough to finally find him guilty and keep him in custody, to keep him away from society. i do feel for holly because obviously she had to go through it in the spotlight and it must be difficult. you do not want your name to be attached to a person like gavin plumb. and this is one of the reasons i want to remain anonymous. i don't want to be associated with him in any way. how do you feel about gavin plumb now, when you think about gavin plumb? i feel like he lost his life. anybody has capacity to have a wonderful life ahead of them. you just give in to some mad, sick fantasies, to your desires, to your ego, and you lose your life.

he has, in my eyes, nothing in life, and it makes him, in a way, more dangerous. you know, a person who has nothing to lose. no ability to control himself. i almost feel pity for him. charlotte gallagher, bbc news. what hearing right now is that that sentencing process is under way and we will bring you the latest updates on bbc news but if you look at what is happening there, you can see the qr code on screen. that will take you to the bbc�*s continuous coverage of the sentencing on the website, if you are wondering. we will take you there ourselves on the news channel

when the sentencing actually happens, that should be at some point this morning. there is not long left before the sentencing happens. stay with us here if you want to hear that scan the qr code if you want continuous coverage of the sentencing. let's bring you some more breaking news. the man suspected of killing three women in hertfordshire has been arrested on suspicion of their murders. 26—year—old kyle clifford from enfield was detained by police on wednesday afternoon and taken to hospital where he is being treated for his injuries. the victims, carol hunt and daughters hannah and louise were the family of commentatorjohn hunt. they were discovered at a house and died at this. helena wilkinson has an update for us. haste wilkinson has an update for us. we 'ust wilkinson has an update for us. 2 just had a statement in the last few minutes from hertfordshire police,

in that statement they said a man has now been arrested in connection with a triple murder which happened on tuesday evening here at our house down the road at the end of the cul—de—sac out of sight investigations are continuing. he was arrested on thursday evening, yesterday evening, on suspicion of three counts of murder. police are not naming him but the man arrested on suspicion of three counts of murder is kyle clifford, 26 years old, from enfield. he remains in a serious condition in hospital. you remember that huge manhunt that went on for a number of hours on wednesday after the police put out a public appeal to try to find kyle clifford, the suspect in this investigation. he was found in a cemetery in enfield in north london with injuries. he was taken to

hospital on wednesday and he remains in a london hospital in a serious condition. that breaking news, in the last couple of moments, at kyle clifford, 26 years old, has been arrested on suspicion of three counts of murder. the incident happened on tuesday here in this very quiet town in hertfordshire. the three victims were found with serious injuries in the house and paramedics, there was a huge emergency response, ambulance crews, police, came to the scene and did their best to save them but all three died at the scene. that news in the last couple of moments that kyle clifford, 26 years old, from enfield, has been arrested on suspicion of three counts of murder. that was helena wilkinson with the latest on that story.

four migrants have drowned while trying to cross the english channel in a small boat. the french navy responded to reports last night that several people had gone overboard off boulogne—sur—mer. 56 people were rescued. nine remain in a serious condition. michael keohan has the latest from dover. at four o'clock this morning, the alarm was raised on the french side of the water, we understand about carrying around a 67 people got into difficulty and four people lost their lives. this was first reported by french media, we understand there were calls of support from british boats but that was a search and rescue operation close to french waters. ~ , ,. waters. winners 63 were rescued, four people _ waters. winners 63 were rescued, four people found _ waters. winners 63 were rescued, four people found unconscious i waters. winners 63 were rescued, | four people found unconscious and could not be saved. what else has

the french coastguard been telling us this morning? haste the french coastguard been telling us this morning?— us this morning? we understand search and _ us this morning? we understand search and rescue _ us this morning? we understand search and rescue operation i search and rescue operation continues across the water as they continues across the water as they continue to look at anybody they could have missed in that surgeon rescue operation will stop it is windy, the sea is choppy, the conditions are not favourable for crossing and that is why there is such concern for people taking the risk even in the most difficult of conditions. record numbers have been coming across the channel over this summer, michael. yes, and i have been speaking to local new labour mp about what has happened in the channel and about what labour will do. the home secretary has said that labour will be wanting to set up a new command centre to tackle the gangs. the mp here said he was sad to hear about this but it is

important that labour gets on with breaking those people smuggling gangs, it works closely with the french to do so. conversations are taking place this week that they were looking forward to break the people smuggling gangs that have led to incidents like this that we saw in the early hours here near dover. we will have more on that on the bbc�*s website. the us presidentjoe biden is expected to face more calls today from dozens of democratic party politicians to step aside as a candidate for re—election, after two embarrassing gaffes marred the end of the nato summit in washington. last night he mistakenly introduced the ukrainian leader as 'president putin'. then, at a news conference, referred to his deputy, kamala harris, as "vice president trump". but mr biden has again hit back at his critics, insisting he's the most qualified person to take on donald trump in november. i spoke to said david manning, former uk ambassador to the us, and

i asked him if president biden should stand for election. i think robabl should stand for election. i think probably he _ should stand for election. i think probably he should _ should stand for election. i think probably he should not - should stand for election. i think probably he should not now, i i should stand for election. i think. probably he should not now, i think there is a terrific record as the prime minister said that president biden has had over the last three and a half, four years. he has got the american economy moving, has been instrumental in improving the transatlantic alliance and standing up transatlantic alliance and standing up for ukraine. the risk now is that if he runs again, and he cannot help getting older, he will prejudice his own legacy and if he were to lose, thatis own legacy and if he were to lose, that is certainly the case, if ex—president trump were re—elected. i think probably the time is for him to make way for a younger candidate. you say younger candidate, but is one of the issues not that there's no clear candidate he believes could beat former president trump? he has not said that — beat former president trump? he has not said that as _ beat former president trump? he has not said that as far _ beat former president trump? he has not said that as far as _ beat former president trump? he has not said that as far as i _ beat former president trump? he has not said that as far as i know, - beat former president trump? he has not said that as far as i know, he i not said that as far as i know, he has said it is clear that his vice

president could do the job and if he does start talking names, that suggests he will stand down. he is not currently ready to make that concession and it looks as though he is backing one element of the democratic party against another. i don't think you can expect him to endorse anybody at the moment but they have a raft of good people in they have a raft of good people in the democratic party and i'm sure they could come up with a strong candidate if he stands aside. but seak candidate if he stands aside. but s - eak to candidate if he stands aside. but speak to a _ candidate if he stands aside. but speak to a democratic fundraiser and a delegate, you have yourfinger on the pulse of what is happening within those democratic circles. tell me what is happening in those circles, are we expecting to see any more pushback and if so, how strong will be pushback against president biden b? . , biden b? cuba having me, they will be further talking _ biden b? cuba having me, they will be further talking this _ biden b? cuba having me, they will be further talking this week. i biden b? cuba having me, they will be further talking this week. nancy| be further talking this week. nancy pelosi told people to hold off until after the nato summit but the summit

is over now and so we might see the dam break a little more. people are still expressing grave doubts. it is a very tenuous time.— still expressing grave doubts. it is a very tenuous time. what have they been saying — a very tenuous time. what have they been saying to _ a very tenuous time. what have they been saying to you? _ a very tenuous time. what have they been saying to you? i _ a very tenuous time. what have they been saying to you? i won't - a very tenuous time. what have they been saying to you? i won't name i been saying to you? i won't name names because _ been saying to you? i won't name names because these _ been saying to you? i won't name names because these people i been saying to you? i won't name names because these people are | been saying to you? i won't name i names because these people are my friends, but generally speaking, people are distraught. it's very hard, i'm sorry i am not more eloquent about it but this is actually a month ago, i wouldn't have dream this would be happening. it's very hard. most of us lovejoe biden and to see him like this, to see your party in such disarray, it is very disheartening, especially since the alternative is so dire. we are running against a convicted felon who incited a terrorist insurrection, so each day we are

talking about this, it is one