found in two suitcases in bristol shifts to the capital. the justice secretary says plans to release thousands of inmates early are "the only way to avert disaster" in the prisons system. the man who plotted to kidnap, rape and murder tv presenter holly willoughby is sentenced to life in prison. and star striker ollie watkins describes how it felt to score that goal to secure england's place in sunday's final against spain. i knew when i was going onto the pitch that i was going to score. you know, i manifested it, i had worked very hard to get to that point. so it's been an amazing feeling, but i'm not shocked. now on bbc news — it's time for newscast. hello, we could go we were waking

up, or going to bed, with the result of the general election 202a. we remember some key moments of the night, obviously, the big names that came and went and remember the next day. but other things that happened that we haven't clocked, individual results or trends that were under the surface of the labour landslide? that is what we were digging in this episode of newscast, looking back at the result of the general election in great detail. hello, it is adam in the newscast studio, and joining me hello, it is adam in the newscast studio, andjoining me for hello, it is adam in the newscast studio, and joining me for the stroll down memory lane, we have scarlett maguire. hello. freshly

wrested from a little holiday. also is a columnist and chief data reporter for the financial times, john. and excellent marathon and half marathon runner. beat everyone from the newscast team. and joining us on the line as professor rob ford. i know you were involved in the exit poll, so well done for getting it correct. and also you wrote the blue the general election 2019, co—author, so will there be a general election coming out? 2019, co-author, so will there be a general election coming out? there is, as general election coming out? there is. as soon — general election coming out? there is. as soon as _ general election coming out? there is, as soon as we _ general election coming out? there is, as soon as we can _ general election coming out? there is, as soon as we can get _ general election coming out? there is, as soon as we can get it - general election coming out? there is, as soon as we can get it out. - is, as soon as we can get it out. that could be a while, because as an awful lot to dissect from the election. it awful lot to dissect from the election. . ., awful lot to dissect from the election. _, , ., election. it could be a while. perfect setup. _ election. it could be a while. perfect setup. scarlett, - election. it could be a while. perfect setup. scarlett, youl election. it could be a while. - perfect setup. scarlett, you have a couple of days of.— couple of days of. what is the big icture, couple of days of. what is the big picture. the _ couple of days of. what is the big picture, the conclusion _ couple of days of. what is the big picture, the conclusion you - couple of days of. what is the big | picture, the conclusion you reach? in the _ picture, the conclusion you reach? in the run-up— picture, the conclusion you reach? in the run—up i hearthe picture, the conclusion you reach? in the run—up i hear the same thing, isn't it_ in the run—up i hear the same thing, isn't it boring. — in the run—up i hear the same thing, isn't it boring, we know the result, labour_

isn't it boring, we know the result, labour will— isn't it boring, we know the result, labour will have a massive landslide, the conservatives will do terribly? _ landslide, the conservatives will do terribly? actually that is correct, labour _ terribly? actually that is correct, labour did — terribly? actually that is correct, labour did when, the concert is imploded — labour did when, the concert is imploded result. underneath the surface _ imploded result. underneath the surface you basically can take any constituency in the country and find something — constituency in the country and find something interesting. a lot of attention— something interesting. a lot of attention has been on the shock results. — attention has been on the shock results, likejonathan attention has been on the shock results, like jonathan ashworth, attention has been on the shock results, likejonathan ashworth, my 'aw results, likejonathan ashworth, my jaw was _ results, likejonathan ashworth, my jaw was on — results, likejonathan ashworth, my jaw was on the floor. so many interesting things when you look at the holds _ interesting things when you look at the holds which don't warrant the attention — the holds which don't warrant the attention. that is my biggest takeaway. my quite a moments. i go on the election _ takeaway. my quite a moments. h gr? on the election software and look at places on the map. john, what is your big picture?— places on the map. john, what is your big picture? something that interested me _ your big picture? something that interested me is _ your big picture? something that interested me is various - your big picture? something that interested me is various age - interested me is various age gradients, like you young and old are voting for. this selection, it wasn't new but it is thrown into

light something steadily bolding over the last few years. the one i'm interested in is we got it into our heads over the last decades, with labour, if you are young you vote labour, if you are young you vote labour, if you are young you vote labour, if you are older you don't. starting in 2019 and clear now is now, pete labour is 30 years old. if you are 30, you are as labour as can be, so it's not a straight line. younger men bowed slightly differently, that is interesting. if there's attitudes holds —— vote differently. it is a different generation.— differently. it is a different generation. differently. it is a different reneration. ~ , , ., generation. we will pick up on them in a moment- _ generation. we will pick up on them in a moment. rob, _ generation. we will pick up on them in a moment. rob, give _ generation. we will pick up on them in a moment. rob, give a _ generation. we will pick up on them in a moment. rob, give a big - generation. we will pick up on them | in a moment. rob, give a big picture thought. ma; in a moment. rob, give a big picture thou:ht. y , in a moment. rob, give a big picture thou:ht. g , ,. in a moment. rob, give a big picture thou:ht. g , _ ., in a moment. rob, give a big picture thou:ht. g , ,. ., , thought. my big picture thought is the electoral— thought. my big picture thought is the electoral system _ thought. my big picture thought is the electoral system never- thought. my big picture thought is i the electoral system never mattered more than _ the electoral system never mattered more than it— the electoral system never mattered more than it did _ the electoral system never mattered more than it did here, _ the electoral system never mattered more than it did here, in— the electoral system never mattered more than it did here, in terms- the electoral system never mattered more than it did here, in terms of. more than it did here, in terms of how it _ more than it did here, in terms of how it affected _ more than it did here, in terms of how it affected the _ more than it did here, in terms of how it affected the behaviour - more than it did here, in terms of how it affected the behaviour of l how it affected the behaviour of voters — how it affected the behaviour of voters when— how it affected the behaviour of voters. when you _ how it affected the behaviour of voters. when you look -

how it affected the behaviour of voters. when you look at - how it affected the behaviour of voters. when you look at the i voters. when you look at the marginal— voters. when you look at the marginal seats, _ voters. when you look at the marginal seats, labour- voters. when you look at the marginal seats, labour overl marginal seats, labour over performed _ marginal seats, labour over performed where _ marginal seats, labour over performed where they- marginal seats, labour over performed where they were | marginal seats, labour over- performed where they were second to the tories, _ performed where they were second to the tories, and — performed where they were second to the tories, and the _ performed where they were second to the tories, and the lib— performed where they were second to the tories, and the lib dems - performed where they were second to the tories, and the lib dems over- the tories, and the lib dems over performance _ the tories, and the lib dems over performance. looking _ the tories, and the lib dems over performance. looking at - the tories, and the lib dems over performance. looking at the - the tories, and the lib dems over| performance. looking at the same suit, _ performance. looking at the same suit. the _ performance. looking at the same suit, the conservatives _ performance. looking at the same suit, the conservatives fell- performance. looking at the same suit, the conservatives fell more i suit, the conservatives fell more nsa pursuit, _ suit, the conservatives fell more nsa pursuit, but _ suit, the conservatives fell more nsa pursuit, but labour- suit, the conservatives fell more nsa pursuit, but labour also - suit, the conservatives fell more i nsa pursuit, but labour also fell. as a result, — nsa pursuit, but labour also fell. as a result, they _ nsa pursuit, but labour also fell. as a result, they will _ nsa pursuit, but labour also fell. as a result, they will go - nsa pursuit, but labour also fell. as a result, they will go with - nsa pursuit, but labour also fell. as a result, they will go with a i as a result, they will go with a bigger— as a result, they will go with a bigger and _ as a result, they will go with a bigger and more _ as a result, they will go with a bigger and more diverse - as a result, they will go with a bigger and more diverse set. as a result, they will go with aj bigger and more diverse set of marginal— bigger and more diverse set of marginal seats _ bigger and more diverse set of marginal seats than _ bigger and more diverse set of marginal seats than we've - bigger and more diverse set of| marginal seats than we've ever bigger and more diverse set of- marginal seats than we've ever had in any— marginal seats than we've ever had in any modern _ marginal seats than we've ever had in any modern election _ marginal seats than we've ever had in any modern election before. - marginal seats than we've ever had in any modern election before. it. in any modern election before. it will be _ in any modern election before. it will be the — in any modern election before. it will be the most _ in any modern election before. it will be the most hotly— in any modern election before. it will be the most hotly contestedl in any modern election before. it- will be the most hotly contested and most diverseiy— will be the most hotly contested and most diversely contested _ will be the most hotly contested and most diversely contested election i most diversely contested election ever coming — most diversely contested election ever coming up _ most diversely contested election ever coming up. scarlett - most diversely contested election ever coming up. scarlett started i most diversely contested election. ever coming up. scarlett started by pointing _ ever coming up. scarlett started by pointing out— ever coming up. scarlett started by pointing out it _ ever coming up. scarlett started by pointing out it seemed _ ever coming up. scarlett started by pointing out it seemed boring, - pointing out it seemed boring, everyone — pointing out it seemed boring, everyone knew— pointing out it seemed boring, everyone knew what _ pointing out it seemed boring, everyone knew what would - pointing out it seemed boring, - everyone knew what would happen. that definitely— everyone knew what would happen. that definitely won't _ everyone knew what would happen. that definitely won't be _ everyone knew what would happen. that definitely won't be the - everyone knew what would happen. that definitely won't be the case . that definitely won't be the case next time — that definitely won't be the case next time, even _ that definitely won't be the case next time, even if _ that definitely won't be the case next time, even if the _ that definitely won't be the case next time, even if the polls - that definitely won't be the casel next time, even if the polls point to a big _ next time, even if the polls point to a big win _ next time, even if the polls point to a big win. there's— next time, even if the polls point to a big win. there's so- next time, even if the polls point to a big win. there's so much- next time, even if the polls point. to a big win. there's so much going on in _ to a big win. there's so much going on in terms — to a big win. there's so much going on in terms of— to a big win. there's so much going on in terms of the _ to a big win. there's so much going on in terms of the landscape - to a big win. there's so much going on in terms of the landscape that l on in terms of the landscape that there _ on in terms of the landscape that there will— on in terms of the landscape that there will be _ on in terms of the landscape that there will be a _ on in terms of the landscape that there will be a lot _ on in terms of the landscape that there will be a lot to _ on in terms of the landscape that there will be a lot to watch. - there will be a lot to watch. scarlett, _ there will be a lot to watch. scarlett, another— there will be a lot to watch. scarlett, another way - there will be a lot to watch. scarlett, another way to - there will be a lot to watch. | scarlett, another way to put there will be a lot to watch. . scarlett, another way to put it, when it is the next election, we will be looking at the individual contest and working what they are

and have labour against conservatives against lib dems against reform. rather than the titanic battle normally between labour and conservatives, the two parties who could conceivably form a government. parties who could conceivably form a government-— parties who could conceivably form a government. yes, and constituencies are becoming — government. yes, and constituencies are becoming idiosyncratic. _ government. yes, and constituencies are becoming idiosyncratic. you - are becoming idiosyncratic. you might look at very broadly red wall constituencies and see what the conservative mp resisted the swing in the neighbouring constituency. you have labour mps coming in there with a much smaller majorities than you think. yes, we will see those fivewe scraps. three ways most of them. if you look at the isle of wight, five parties with double digits in the isle of wight east. the conservatives held on with 30%,

and reform on 20, greens under 20, and reform on 20, greens under 20, and labour under20, and lib dems on ten. that will be replicated. you have examples like it or similar all over the country.— over the country. john, scarlett used the phrase _ over the country. john, scarlett used the phrase red _ over the country. john, scarlett used the phrase red wall. - over the country. john, scarlett used the phrase red wall. can l over the country. john, scarlett i used the phrase red wall. can we over the country. john, scarlett - used the phrase red wall. can we put that phrase to bed now? i used the phrase red wall. can we put that phrase to bed now?— that phrase to bed now? i think with stuff like the — that phrase to bed now? i think with stuff like the red _ that phrase to bed now? i think with stuff like the red wall— that phrase to bed now? i think with stuff like the red wall it _ that phrase to bed now? i think with stuff like the red wall it is _ that phrase to bed now? i think with stuff like the red wall it is not - stuff like the red wall it is not that _ stuff like the red wall it is not that it — stuff like the red wall it is not that it has gone back to labour forever, — that it has gone back to labour forever, in— that it has gone back to labour forever, in the same way it didn't io forever, in the same way it didn't go tory— forever, in the same way it didn't go tory forever in 2019. the red bull seat — go tory forever in 2019. the red bull seat looking like your classic swing _ bull seat looking like your classic swing seats. —— read wall. these other— swing seats. —— read wall. these other types— swing seats. —— read wall. these other types of people and views in those _ other types of people and views in those seats which should be and went that way _ those seats which should be and went that way i_ those seats which should be and went that way. i think it is more the small— that way. i think it is more the small swing with the rest of the country — small swing with the rest of the country in _ small swing with the rest of the country. in five years' time, those seats _ country. in five years' time, those seats will— country. in five years' time, those seats will move with it but maybe lose the _ seats will move with it but maybe lose the mythical significance over

time _ lose the mythical significance over time. ., , ., ., lose the mythical significance over time. .,, ., ., ., lose the mythical significance over time. ., ., ., ., time. rob, the old definition of a man inal time. rob, the old definition of a marginal seat, _ time. rob, the old definition of a marginal seat, was _ time. rob, the old definition of a marginal seat, was it _ time. rob, the old definition of a marginal seat, was it the - time. rob, the old definition of al marginal seat, was it the majority for the winner was less than 10% of the electorate question that wouldn't have been a good definition in this election. brute wouldn't have been a good definition in this election.— in this election. we need a broader definition given _ in this election. we need a broader definition given how— in this election. we need a broader definition given how volatile - in this election. we need a broader definition given how volatile the i definition given how volatile the electorate — definition given how volatile the electorate has _ definition given how volatile the electorate has become. - definition given how volatile the electorate has become. if- definition given how volatile the electorate has become. if we i definition given how volatile the. electorate has become. if we use definition given how volatile the i electorate has become. if we use a definition— electorate has become. if we use a definition like _ electorate has become. if we use a definition like 10%, _ electorate has become. if we use a definition like 10%, 20% _ electorate has become. if we use a definition like 10%, 20% come - electorate has become. if we use a definition like 10%, 20% come pickj definition like 10%, 20% come pick your definition _ definition like 10%, 20% come pick your definition. 0n— definition like 10%, 20% come pick your definition. on any— definition like 10%, 20% come pick your definition. on any definition l your definition. on any definition there's— your definition. on any definition there's a — your definition. on any definition there's a lot _ your definition. on any definition there's a lot more _ your definition. on any definition there's a lot more of— your definition. on any definition there's a lot more of them. - your definition. on any definition there's a lot more of them. i- your definition. on any definitionl there's a lot more of them. i want to pick— there's a lot more of them. i want to pick up— there's a lot more of them. i want to pick up on— there's a lot more of them. i want to pick up on what _ there's a lot more of them. i want to pick up on what you _ there's a lot more of them. i want to pick up on what you said - there's a lot more of them. i want to pick up on what you said about| to pick up on what you said about the red _ to pick up on what you said about the red wait _ to pick up on what you said about the red wall. we _ to pick up on what you said about the red wall. we spent- to pick up on what you said about the red wall. we spent a - to pick up on what you said about the red wall. we spent a lot - to pick up on what you said about the red wall. we spent a lot of. to pick up on what you said about. the red wall. we spent a lot of time in the _ the red wall. we spent a lot of time in the last— the red wall. we spent a lot of time in the last eight— the red wall. we spent a lot of time in the last eight years _ the red wall. we spent a lot of time in the last eight years talking - in the last eight years talking about— in the last eight years talking about the _ in the last eight years talking about the red _ in the last eight years talking about the red wall, - in the last eight years talking about the red wall, which i in the last eight years talking about the red wall, which is| in the last eight years talking - about the red wall, which is why i found _ about the red wall, which is why i found it _ about the red wall, which is why i found it funny— about the red wall, which is why i found it funny the _ about the red wall, which is why i found it funny the equivalent - about the red wall, which is why i found it funny the equivalent set l about the red wall, which is why i i found it funny the equivalent set of seats _ found it funny the equivalent set of seats for— found it funny the equivalent set of seats for the — found it funny the equivalent set of seats for the conservatives, - found it funny the equivalent set of seats for the conservatives, seats. seats for the conservatives, seats they've _ seats for the conservatives, seats they've heid — seats for the conservatives, seats they've held for— seats for the conservatives, seats they've held for generations, - seats for the conservatives, seatsj they've held for generations, they fell they've held for generations, they felt by— they've held for generations, they felt by the — they've held for generations, they fell by the dozen _ they've held for generations, they fell by the dozen in _ they've held for generations, they fell by the dozen in the _ they've held for generations, they fell by the dozen in the selection. | fell by the dozen in the selection. that did _ fell by the dozen in the selection. that did not — fell by the dozen in the selection. that did not seem _ fell by the dozen in the selection. that did not seem to _ fell by the dozen in the selection. that did not seem to attract - that did not seem to attract anywhere _ that did not seem to attract anywhere near— that did not seem to attract anywhere near the - that did not seem to attract anywhere near the same - that did not seem to attract - anywhere near the same amount of attention — anywhere near the same amount of attention we — anywhere near the same amount of attention. we heard _ anywhere near the same amount of attention. we heard about - anywhere near the same amount of attention. we heard about the - anywhere near the same amount of attention. we heard about the bluej attention. we heard about the blue wall where — attention. we heard about the blue wall where the _ attention. we heard about the blue wall where the lib _ attention. we heard about the blue wall where the lib dems— attention. we heard about the blue wall where the lib dems were - attention. we heard about the blue i wall where the lib dems were second, but plenty— wall where the lib dems were second, but plenty of _ wall where the lib dems were second, but plenty of seats _ wall where the lib dems were second, but plenty of seats second _ wall where the lib dems were second, but plenty of seats second to - wall where the lib dems were second, but plenty of seats second to labour.

but plenty of seats second to labour where _ but plenty of seats second to labour where they— but plenty of seats second to labour where they haven't _ but plenty of seats second to labour where they haven't elected - but plenty of seats second to labour where they haven't elected anything j where they haven't elected anything conservative — where they haven't elected anything conservative mp _ where they haven't elected anything conservative mp since _ where they haven't elected anything conservative mp since gladstone - where they haven't elected anything l conservative mp since gladstone was prime _ conservative mp since gladstone was prime minister— conservative mp since gladstone was prime minister or— conservative mp since gladstone was prime minister or the _ conservative mp since gladstone was prime minister or the labour- conservative mp since gladstone was prime minister or the labour party. prime minister or the labour party wasn't _ prime minister or the labour party wasn't even — prime minister or the labour party wasn't even founded. _ prime minister or the labour party wasn't even founded. that - prime minister or the labour party wasn't even founded. that is - prime minister or the labour party. wasn't even founded. that is another front that _ wasn't even founded. that is another front that has — wasn't even founded. that is another front that has opened _ wasn't even founded. that is another front that has opened up _ wasn't even founded. that is another front that has opened up electorallyl front that has opened up electorally in terms _ front that has opened up electorally in terms of— front that has opened up electorally in terms of a — front that has opened up electorally in terms of a bunch _ front that has opened up electorally in terms of a bunch of— front that has opened up electorally in terms of a bunch of places - front that has opened up electorally in terms of a bunch of places now . in terms of a bunch of places now behaving — in terms of a bunch of places now behaving in— in terms of a bunch of places now behaving in a— in terms of a bunch of places now behaving in a very— in terms of a bunch of places now behaving in a very different - in terms of a bunch of places now behaving in a very different way. in terms of a bunch of places nowi behaving in a very different way to the way _ behaving in a very different way to the way they — behaving in a very different way to the way they have _ behaving in a very different way to the way they have for _ behaving in a very different way to the way they have for an _ behaving in a very different way to the way they have for an awful - behaving in a very different way to l the way they have for an awful long time _ the way they have for an awful long time seats — the way they have for an awful long time. seats that _ the way they have for an awful long time. seats that used _ the way they have for an awful long time. seats that used to _ the way they have for an awful long time. seats that used to be - the way they have for an awful long time. seats that used to be save i the way they have for an awful longl time. seats that used to be save but our battlegrounds. _ time. seats that used to be save but our battlegrounds. for— time. seats that used to be save but our battlegrounds. for some - time. seats that used to be save but our battlegrounds. for some reason| our battlegrounds. for some reason they aren't — our battlegrounds. for some reason they aren't attracting _ our battlegrounds. for some reason they aren't attracting the _ our battlegrounds. for some reason they aren't attracting the attention i they aren't attracting the attention they aren't attracting the attention the red _ they aren't attracting the attention the red watt— they aren't attracting the attention the red wall seats _ they aren't attracting the attention the red wall seats did. _ they aren't attracting the attention the red wall seats did. my- they aren't attracting the attention the red wall seats did.— they aren't attracting the attention the red wall seats did. my theory is because so many — the red wall seats did. my theory is because so many of— the red wall seats did. my theory is because so many of us _ the red wall seats did. my theory is because so many of us whose - the red wall seats did. my theory is because so many of us whose job i the red wall seats did. my theory is because so many of us whose job is| because so many of us whose job is to interpret it, we were up all night watching the result and i'm looking at the newscast hexagon map against the wall, which we had in the radio theatre, and it is very red, because labour won lots of seats but not blue enough because we gave up colouring in art for 30. can see conservative holds are

underrepresented. i wonder if so much of the narrative of what happened in the event of the election is really front—loaded by the first five hours of election night. just a theory, we will need someone wiser than me to prove it. scarlett, what are the implications of all of that for what happens in politics and the things we should look at in the next four or five years? i think for the last parliament we got interested in the idea of can the conservatives hold on inform labour areas, which we nicknamed the red wall? something and my company _ nicknamed the red wall? something and my company were _ nicknamed the red wall? something and my company were interested - nicknamed the red wall? something and my company were interested in, | and my company were interested in, something we kept hearing, you could see it in underlying data on a people's opinions. more from focus groups, the colour of people fed up with everyone. they were much, much

more fed up with the conservative party and keen to get them out of government. but it was this real plague on both your houses, these politicians are the same. we thought this must mean there is a volatility in the electorate, and we have seen this come to pass. a lot of attention has been given to those gains that these parties made, whether reform or the green party or different independent candidates campaigning on gaza, notjust art but broadly speaking. there are so many other constituencies where they have more of a stronger foothold. that means if you take some work like huddersfield, the green party have about 26% of the vote, in a much stronger position on the bare—bones bed to get there this time. that is replicated in lots of places. that is just a green time. that is replicated in lots of places. that isjust a green party, not talking about reform uk.

birmingham and mosley got no attention because labour held it, but two independents got some of it. again, not a perfect magic, like the would have gone their way. it is all to say i think the electorate is incredibly volatile. we can see it, but in western countries, i think around the world this frustration with mainstream party politics. we have a different electoral system which i think producers quite different results. the labour landslide does obscure that sentiment in the public. it isn't a say it's not an opportunity for keir starmer to turn it around, and we have seen his adjoining a honeymoon. we will see how long of glass and whether they turn the volatility ——

how long it lasts. it put every politician. there will be so many mps looking over their shoulder at reform, at the green party and independent candidates. shock result can happen at it makes the whole thing more tense.— thing more tense. john, let's talk about those- _ thing more tense. john, let's talk about those. i _ thing more tense. john, let's talk about those. i am _ thing more tense. john, let's talk about those. i am just _ thing more tense. john, let's talk about those. i am just rolling - about those. i am just rolling through my spreadsheet. labour's seven losses... through my spreadsheet. labour's seven losses. . ._ through my spreadsheet. labour's seven losses. . . seven losses... these were generally in seats with — seven losses... these were generally in seats with large _ seven losses... these were generally in seats with large muslim _ in seats with large muslim populations, in poor part of the country — populations, in poor part of the country i— populations, in poor part of the country. i think that latter point is overstated. it was really the muslim — is overstated. it was really the muslim vote that had an impact, something people have been talking about _ something people have been talking about. there was a lot of anger both within— about. there was a lot of anger both within the _ about. there was a lot of anger both within the muslim community and other— within the muslim community and other parts of younger progressive britain _ other parts of younger progressive britain about the position on gaza. there _ britain about the position on gaza. there were — britain about the position on gaza. there were calls for a ceasefire when _ there were calls for a ceasefire when labour and keir starmer weren't wilting _ when labour and keir starmer weren't wilting to _ when labour and keir starmer weren't wilting to go _ when labour and keir starmer weren't willing to go for it. they came

around — willing to go for it. they came around later. i think a lot of anger _ around later. i think a lot of anger. scarlett touched on it, when people _ anger. scarlett touched on it, when people say— anger. scarlett touched on it, when people say it is notjust about gaza, — people say it is notjust about gaza, it — people say it is notjust about gaza, it is _ people say it is notjust about gaza, it is and it isn't. gaza is the _ gaza, it is and it isn't. gaza is the trigger— gaza, it is and it isn't. gaza is the trigger that causes someone to question. _ the trigger that causes someone to question, hang on, why am i voting for this— question, hang on, why am i voting for this party? so much politics for younger— for this party? so much politics for younger people is you vote based on who your— younger people is you vote based on who your parents voted for or you think— who your parents voted for or you think people like you vote for. when it comes _ think people like you vote for. when it comes along and you disagree with it, it comes along and you disagree with it. you _ it comes along and you disagree with it. you can— it comes along and you disagree with it, you can question all sorts. it isn't _ it, you can question all sorts. it isn'tiust— it, you can question all sorts. it isn'tiust a _ it, you can question all sorts. it isn'tjust a uk it, you can question all sorts. it isn't just a uk thing, it, you can question all sorts. it isn'tjust a uk thing, signs of it happening in the us, a small population of african—americans moving — population of african—americans moving away from the democrats. you can get _ moving away from the democrats. you can get it _ moving away from the democrats. you can get it where a certain event like gaza — can get it where a certain event like gaza triggers a broader, causes sonreone _ like gaza triggers a broader, causes sonreone to— like gaza triggers a broader, causes someone to question what they are doing _ someone to question what they are doing in— someone to question what they are doing. in these seats where there was a _ doing. in these seats where there was a clear— doing. in these seats where there was a clear gaza candidate, that 'ust was a clear gaza candidate, that just nreant— was a clear gaza candidate, that just meant a lot of people felt they

didnt— just meant a lot of people felt they didn't have to vote labour. the labour — didn't have to vote labour. the labour supermajority narrative the tories _ labour supermajority narrative the tories were putting out, and not 'ust tories were putting out, and not just what— tories were putting out, and not just what they were saying but the knowledge labour were definitely going _ knowledge labour were definitely going to — knowledge labour were definitely going to win and were possibly going to win _ going to win and were possibly going to win nationally meant people who were disgruntled with labour felt i would _ were disgruntled with labour felt i would vote for someone else. rob, ou've would vote for someone else. rob, you've written _ would vote for someone else. rob, you've written lots _ would vote for someone else. rob, you've written lots of _ would vote for someone else. rob, you've written lots of books. - would vote for someone else. ira you've written lots of books. it seems to me the old things that made people vote a certain way, class, how you boated, your education, it has been added to by other factors which defined political choices. find which defined political choices. and also some of— which defined political choices. and also some of the other things like ethnicity. — also some of the other things like ethnicity. they— also some of the other things like ethnicity, they seem _ also some of the other things like ethnicity, they seem to _ also some of the other things like ethnicity, they seem to be - also some of the other things like i ethnicity, they seem to be muttering drastically— ethnicity, they seem to be muttering drastically less — ethnicity, they seem to be muttering drastically less in— ethnicity, they seem to be muttering drastically less in the _ ethnicity, they seem to be muttering drastically less in the selection. - ethnicity, they seem to be muttering drastically less in the selection. i- drastically less in the selection. i would _ drastically less in the selection. i would like — drastically less in the selection. i would like to _ drastically less in the selection. i would like to put _ drastically less in the selection. i would like to put a _ drastically less in the selection. i would like to put a shut - drastically less in the selection. i would like to put a shut out - drastically less in the selection. i would like to put a shut out —— l would like to put a shut out —— shout — would like to put a shut out —— shout out _ would like to put a shut out —— shout out for _ would like to put a shut out —— shout out for leicester - would like to put a shut out —— shout out for leicester east, . would like to put a shut out —— i shout out for leicester east, the only labour— shout out for leicester east, the only labour gain, _ shout out for leicester east, the only labour gain, and _ shout out for leicester east, the only labour gain, and the - shout out for leicester east, the only labour gain, and the seed i shout out for leicester east, the i only labour gain, and the seed with the highest —

only labour gain, and the seed with the highest hindu _ only labour gain, and the seed with the highest hindu share _ only labour gain, and the seed with the highest hindu share in- only labour gain, and the seed with the highest hindu share in the - the highest hindu share in the country — the highest hindu share in the country the _ the highest hindu share in the country. the conservative - the highest hindu share in the i country. the conservative second safest _ country. the conservative second safest seat — country. the conservative second safest seat is _ country. the conservative second safest seat is harrow _ country. the conservative second safest seat is harrow east. - country. the conservative second safest seat is harrow east. that i country. the conservative second| safest seat is harrow east. that is the third _ safest seat is harrow east. that is the third highest— safest seat is harrow east. that is the third highest hindu _ safest seat is harrow east. that isj the third highest hindu population in the _ the third highest hindu population in the country _ the third highest hindu population in the country. and _ the third highest hindu population in the country. and there's- the third highest hindu population in the country. and there's a - the third highest hindu population in the country. and there's a clearj in the country. and there's a clear trigger— in the country. and there's a clear trigger there — in the country. and there's a clear trigger there as _ in the country. and there's a clear trigger there as well. _ in the country. and there's a clear trigger there as well. a _ in the country. and there's a clear trigger there as well. a quieter. trigger there as well. a quieter trigger— trigger there as well. a quieter trigger perhaps— trigger there as well. a quieter trigger perhaps than _ trigger there as well. a quieter trigger perhaps than gaza, - trigger there as well. a quieter. trigger perhaps than gaza, which trigger there as well. a quieter- trigger perhaps than gaza, which has donrinated _ trigger perhaps than gaza, which has donrinated the — trigger perhaps than gaza, which has dominated the news _ trigger perhaps than gaza, which has dominated the news headlines. - trigger perhaps than gaza, which has dominated the news headlines. it - trigger perhaps than gaza, which has dominated the news headlines. it is| dominated the news headlines. it is not impossible _ dominated the news headlines. it is not impossible to _ dominated the news headlines. it is not impossible to imagine - dominated the news headlines. it is not impossible to imagine the - dominated the news headlines. it is| not impossible to imagine the hindu population— not impossible to imagine the hindu population of— not impossible to imagine the hindu population of this _ not impossible to imagine the hindu population of this country _ not impossible to imagine the hindu population of this country has - population of this country has notice — population of this country has notice the _ population of this country has notice the considers - population of this country has notice the considers have - population of this country has - notice the considers have provided the first— notice the considers have provided the first ever — notice the considers have provided the first ever hindu _ notice the considers have provided the first ever hindu prime - notice the considers have providedj the first ever hindu prime minister and have _ the first ever hindu prime minister and have responded _ the first ever hindu prime minister and have responded quite - the first ever hindu prime minister. and have responded quite positively. it and have responded quite positively. it has _ and have responded quite positively. it has been _ and have responded quite positively. it has been drowned _ and have responded quite positively. it has been drowned out _ and have responded quite positively. it has been drowned out by- and have responded quite positively. it has been drowned out by the - and have responded quite positively. it has been drowned out by the hugej it has been drowned out by the huge wave against — it has been drowned out by the huge wave against it. _ it has been drowned out by the huge wave against it, but _ it has been drowned out by the huge wave against it, but it— it has been drowned out by the huge wave against it, but it is— wave against it, but it is significant. _ wave against it, but it is significant. we - wave against it, but it is significant. we have - wave against it, but it is significant. we have the wave against it, but it is- significant. we have the two wave against it, but it is— significant. we have the two largest religious— significant. we have the two largest religious minority— significant. we have the two largest religious minority communities - significant. we have the two largest religious minority communities in l religious minority communities in the country— religious minority communities in the country behaving _ religious minority communities in the country behaving in— religious minority communities in the country behaving in differentl the country behaving in different ways _ the country behaving in different ways to — the country behaving in different ways to the _ the country behaving in different ways to the way _ the country behaving in different ways to the way they— the country behaving in different ways to the way they have - the country behaving in different ways to the way they have in - the country behaving in different ways to the way they have in the past _ ways to the way they have in the past if — ways to the way they have in the past if we — ways to the way they have in the past. if we look _ ways to the way they have in the past. if we look at _ ways to the way they have in the past. if we look at class - ways to the way they have in the past. if we look at class and - ways to the way they have in the i past. if we look at class and income and wealth— past. if we look at class and income and wealth and _ past. if we look at class and income and wealth and so _ past. if we look at class and income and wealth and so on, _ past. if we look at class and income and wealth and so on, you - past. if we look at class and income and wealth and so on, you have - past. if we look at class and income and wealth and so on, you have a l and wealth and so on, you have a huge _ and wealth and so on, you have a huge cluster— and wealth and so on, you have a huge cluster of— and wealth and so on, you have a huge cluster of the _ and wealth and so on, you have a huge cluster of the wealthiest - and wealth and so on, you have a . huge cluster of the wealthiest seats on any— huge cluster of the wealthiest seats on any of— huge cluster of the wealthiest seats on any of those _ huge cluster of the wealthiest seats on any of those metrics _ huge cluster of the wealthiest seats on any of those metrics in _ huge cluster of the wealthiest seats on any of those metrics in the - on any of those metrics in the country— on any of those metrics in the country that _ on any of those metrics in the country that have _ on any of those metrics in the country that have generally.

on any of those metrics in the. country that have generally not on any of those metrics in the - country that have generally not done anything _ country that have generally not done anything but — country that have generally not done anything but vote _ country that have generally not done anything but vote conservative - country that have generally not done anything but vote conservative for. anything but vote conservative for five generations _ anything but vote conservative for five generations and _ anything but vote conservative for five generations and are _ anything but vote conservative for five generations and are all- anything but vote conservative for five generations and are all in - anything but vote conservative for five generations and are all in libi five generations and are all in lib dems— five generations and are all in lib dems hands~ _ five generations and are all in lib dems hands. the _ five generations and are all in lib dems hands-— dems hands. the so-called gail seats. dems hands. the so-called gail seats- just _ dems hands. the so-called gail seats. just expand _ dems hands. the so-called gail seats. just expand on _ dems hands. the so-called gail seats. just expand on that - dems hands. the so-called gail. seats. just expand on that theory, because that was in a column in the economist byjournalist deborah economist by journalist deborah robinson. economist byjournalist deborah robinson. he is a popular chap. explain as what the theory is. it was imparted _ explain as what the theory is. it was imparted to— explain as what the theory is. it was imparted to him _ explain as what the theory is. it was imparted to him by- explain as what the theory is. it was imparted to him by a - explain as what the theory is. it was imparted to him by a lib i explain as what the theory is. it. was imparted to him by a lib dems activist. _ was imparted to him by a lib dems activist, supposedly. _ was imparted to him by a lib dems activist, supposedly. apparently. was imparted to him by a lib demsi activist, supposedly. apparently the lib dems _ activist, supposedly. apparently the lib dems were— activist, supposedly. apparently the lib dems were looking _ activist, supposedly. apparently the lib dems were looking for— activist, supposedly. apparently the lib dems were looking for any- activist, supposedly. apparently the lib dems were looking for any seatsj lib dems were looking for any seats which _ lib dems were looking for any seats which had _ lib dems were looking for any seats which had a — lib dems were looking for any seats which had a dales— lib dems were looking for any seats which had a dales bakery. _ lib dems were looking for any seats which had a dales bakery. we - lib dems were looking for any seats which had a dales bakery. we havei which had a dales bakery. we have one in— which had a dales bakery. we have one in my— which had a dales bakery. we have one in my seat. _ which had a dales bakery. we have one in my seat, they— which had a dales bakery. we have one in my seat, they are _ which had a dales bakery. we have one in my seat, they are very- which had a dales bakery. we have| one in my seat, they are very posh, nice expensive _ one in my seat, they are very posh, nice expensive breads— one in my seat, they are very posh, nice expensive breads and - one in my seat, they are very posh, nice expensive breads and muffins. | nice expensive breads and muffins. that would — nice expensive breads and muffins. that would seem _ nice expensive breads and muffins. that would seem to _ nice expensive breads and muffins. that would seem to be _ nice expensive breads and muffins. that would seem to be reminiscentj nice expensive breads and muffins. . that would seem to be reminiscent of the greg _ that would seem to be reminiscent of the greg seats — that would seem to be reminiscent of the greg seats in _ that would seem to be reminiscent of the greg seats in the _ that would seem to be reminiscent of the greg seats in the red _ that would seem to be reminiscent of the greg seats in the red wall- the greg seats in the red wall period — the greg seats in the red wall period its— the greg seats in the red wall period it's a _ the greg seats in the red wall period. it's a marker— the greg seats in the red wall period. it's a marker of- the greg seats in the red wall period. it's a marker of a - the greg seats in the red wall- period. it's a marker of a consumer, like waitrose —

period. it's a marker of a consumer, like waitrose. every _ period. it's a marker of a consumer, like waitrose. every look _ period. it's a marker of a consumer, like waitrose. every look over- period. it's a marker of a consumer, like waitrose. every look over the i like waitrose. every look over the last 15_ like waitrose. every look over the last 15 years. _ like waitrose. every look over the last 15 years. it _ like waitrose. every look over the last 15 years, it is _ like waitrose. every look over the last 15 years, it is true _ like waitrose. every look over the last 15 years, it is true if- like waitrose. every look over the last 15 years, it is true if you - last15 years, it is true if you look— last 15 years, it is true if you look at — last 15 years, it is true if you look at these _ last 15 years, it is true if you look at these kinds - last 15 years, it is true if you look at these kinds of - last 15 years, it is true if you i look at these kinds of places, surrey, — look at these kinds of places, surrey, berkshire, _ look at these kinds of places, i surrey, berkshire, hampshire, look at these kinds of places, - surrey, berkshire, hampshire, the conservative — surrey, berkshire, hampshire, the conservative vote _ surrey, berkshire, hampshire, the conservative vote has _ surrey, berkshire, hampshire, the conservative vote has drifted - surrey, berkshire, hampshire, thej conservative vote has drifted down for a while — conservative vote has drifted down for a while. these _ conservative vote has drifted down for a while. these are _ conservative vote has drifted down for a while. these are places- conservative vote has drifted down for a while. these are places that i for a while. these are places that want _ for a while. these are places that want government— for a while. these are places that want government to _ for a while. these are places that want government to leave - for a while. these are places that want government to leave them i for a while. these are places that - want government to leave them alone and not _ want government to leave them alone and not cause — want government to leave them alone and not cause any— want government to leave them alone and not cause any drama _ want government to leave them alone and not cause any drama and - want government to leave them alone and not cause any drama and rock- want government to leave them alone and not cause any drama and rock the| and not cause any drama and rock the boat _ and not cause any drama and rock the boat life _ and not cause any drama and rock the boat life is— and not cause any drama and rock the boat life is good _ and not cause any drama and rock the boat. life is good for— and not cause any drama and rock the boat. life is good for them. _ and not cause any drama and rock the boat. life is good for them. they- boat. life is good for them. they -et boat. life is good for them. they get their— boat. life is good for them. they get their gail's— boat. life is good for them. they get their gail's bones _ boat. life is good for them. they get their gail's bones and - boat. life is good for them. they get their gail's bones and go - boat. life is good for them. they get their gail's bones and go to i get their gail's bones and go to ascot— get their gail's bones and go to ascot and — get their gail's bones and go to ascot and they _ get their gail's bones and go to ascot and they are _ get their gail's bones and go to ascot and they are happy. - get their gail's bones and go to ascot and they are happy. they aren't _ ascot and they are happy. they aren't happy— ascot and they are happy. they aren't happy now _ ascot and they are happy. they aren't happy now.— ascot and they are happy. they aren't happy now. other bakery chains are _ aren't happy now. other bakery chains are available. _ aren't happy now. other bakery chains are available. going - aren't happy now. other bakery| chains are available. going back aren't happy now. other bakery i chains are available. going back to leicester east, i remember in the old days when i worked on the daily politics i would go to these areas, mr candidates and ask for any questions and try to catch them out, find out things about the area. looking at leicester east i wish i could have them my old job. as rob was saying, it was a tory gain from

labour. that left the script. look at the candidates, keep that as. you have claudia webb, a former labour mp was a big ally ofjeremy corbyn. they did the same as the liberal democrat candidate and slightly more than the reform candidate. you think, i would than the reform candidate. you think, iwould have than the reform candidate. you think, i would have loved to have meet those people. the other one i think is liz truss's old seat, which i can't remember the name because it has too many points of the compass. south west norfolk... can't even remember. let me scroll down to south west norfolk. 25.9%. i finally got there on my spreadsheet. she was facing this battle of the labour candidate who won, reform and the

date who run her pretty close in third place, and this guy he was an independent but had tried to get rid of her as the tory candidate in the 20105. you had the lib dems and green party getting more than 1000 votes. she was battling against her own reputation as well. no wonder we didn't see much of liz truss. it wasn't that they wanted to lock her in a cupboard, she was fighting on multiple fronts. john, we will pick up multiple fronts. john, we will pick up on your point about young people gloating, because we had this voice note from paris. hi. gloating, because we had this voice note from paris.— note from paris. hi, adam. firstly, what is the — note from paris. hi, adam. firstly, what is the appeal _ note from paris. hi, adam. firstly, what is the appeal of _ note from paris. hi, adam. firstly, what is the appeal of nigel- note from paris. hi, adam. firstly, what is the appeal of nigel farage| what is the appeal of nigel farage to younger voters. they typically votes left. what could the conservatives do to win back the support of the young? keep conservatives do to win back the support of the young?— conservatives do to win back the support of the young? keep up the aood support of the young? keep up the good work- — support of the young? keep up the good work. thank _ support of the young? keep up the good work. thank you, _ support of the young? keep up the good work. thank you, paris. i support of the young? keep up the good work. thank you, paris. all i support of the young? keep up the i good work. thank you, paris. all the polls... i saw an interesting one about 16 and i7—year—olds

potentially getting the votes, and amongst men, reform is really popular, which doesn't fit in with the stereotype a reform voter is pictured to be. the stereotype a reform voter is pictured to be— pictured to be. scarlett, you will have lots to _ pictured to be. scarlett, you will have lots to say, _ pictured to be. scarlett, you will have lots to say, but _ pictured to be. scarlett, you will have lots to say, but it - pictured to be. scarlett, you will have lots to say, but it is - have lots to say, but it is difficult to get representative samples of any part of the population, 6016 and i7—year—olds. the exact numbers here, we probably shouldn't put too much weight into. the generalfinding of shouldn't put too much weight into. the general finding of younger men being a bit more sympathetic to what a party like reform is saying, there's a fair amount of evidence. we aren't talking massive numbers. if you look at the data from the british election study, 30,000 person sample, done for years. the latest data, and the percentage of men voting for reform my age, if you start people in their 705 and get

younger, generally the population goes down until you get to about 25 and it goes up. the very youngest men, 19, 20, 21, 12, 30% of and it goes up. the very youngest men, 19, 20, 21, i2, 30% of them support reform. not a massive number but much higher than women. it is higher than the millennial men. there seems to be something going on. it's hard to know what is going on. it's hard to know what is going on. there's a temptation to think they arejust on. there's a temptation to think they are just trolling around, people who think it is rebellious. electoral anarchists. exactly. that is probably the subject patronising. young people can hold political views for genuine reasons, notjust because they are trawls. i think a lot of people cast a vote on election day because they think screw it. that is a motivation

people do use, notjust16 or i7—year—olds. this is something we should be wary of pretending it is 50% of young men. it is a real thing. an interesting thing ifound which hasn't been picked up was this was actually true for the conservatives in 2019. again, the youngest men were more likely to vote tory in 2019 than men in their 305. the tories weren't to clear the part you would vote for as a rebellious move. it'sjust a part you would vote for as a rebellious move. it's just a small subset of young men, there is a real thing where people are buying into what some of the more populous right—wing politicians are saying. no one has done muscle research into what aspects of this are. is it immigration, the general i feel like somebody to stand up for me question

mark borisjohnson and nigel farage do it. unclear, but we have enough evidence to say it is a real thing. scarlett, i'm glad you are here. do ou scarlett, i'm glad you are here. do you agree? i do and i think picking up you agree? i do and i think picking up on _ you agree? i do and i think picking up ona— you agree? i do and i think picking up on a broader point, i think it is too easy— up on a broader point, i think it is too easy to — up on a broader point, i think it is too easy to be too broadbrush when talking _ too easy to be too broadbrush when talking about voters and the parties they vote _ talking about voters and the parties they vote for. honestly it is a useful— they vote for. honestly it is a useful thing to do and there are some _ useful thing to do and there are some things you can observe in a more _ some things you can observe in a more removed way. for example, reform _ more removed way. for example, reform voters care more about immigration. 0ne reform voters care more about immigration. one thing we notice, during _ immigration. one thing we notice, during focus groups come all voters will surprise you. one thing we found — will surprise you. 0ne thing we found over— will surprise you. one thing we found over and will surprise you. one thing we found overand again will surprise you. one thing we found over and again with reform voters _ found over and again with reform voters is — found over and again with reform voters is they care about immigration but they wanted the nhs fixed _ immigration but they wanted the nhs fixed. slightly distorted by the fact they think a lot of the time they— fact they think a lot of the time they will— fact they think a lot of the time they will see immigration as a lens through— they will see immigration as a lens through which the public services

aren't— through which the public services aren't working well. they will say it is part — aren't working well. they will say it is part of — aren't working well. they will say it is part of the same thing. so the reason you — it is part of the same thing. so the reason you can't _ it is part of the same thing. so the reason you can't get _ it is part of the same thing. so the reason you can't get a _ it is part of the same thing. so the reason you can't get a gp - reason you can't get a gp appointment is there is too many people moving to the country. but we found it is not — people moving to the country. but we found it is not just _ people moving to the country. but we found it is notjust reform _ people moving to the country. but we found it is notjust reform voters i found it is notjust reform voters banging — found it is notjust reform voters banging on about immigration. people more interested and idiosyncratic. people _ more interested and idiosyncratic. people voting in the ballot box. and it is less _ people voting in the ballot box. and it is less easy to paint reasons on in thosem — it is less easy to paint reasons on in those- - -— it is less easy to paint reasons on in those... .,, ., ., , in those... rob, one of the things i hadn't really _ in those... rob, one of the things i hadn't really internalise _ in those... rob, one of the things i hadn't really internalise is - in those... rob, one of the things i hadn't really internalise isjust i hadn't really internalise is just how important for labour's comeback was scotland. my theory is it is something we took for granted because we knew labour would do well in scotland. we could feel it happening, said therefore we discounted it from the final results. . .. . discounted it from the final results. , ,, , ., ., results. yes, i think it is one of the most _ results. yes, i think it is one of the most under _ results. yes, i think it is one of the most under discussed i results. yes, i think it is one of i the most under discussed aspects of the most under discussed aspects of the result. scotland is complicated

and different. it selections have been different to ones in england and wales, which means it is hard to get it in the conversation. there they talk about it, but down here we focus on story as framed by england and wales. the snp completely collapse, almost as much as it rose in 2015 in the huge break after the independence referendum. it was an enormous surge in scottish labour's vote. that is point number one. point number two, it was a bigger swing than expected by virtually all the polling. the polling in scotland seems to substantially understate the scale of the labour advance. it was worth 30 or 35 seats. if scotland continues to behave differently to the rest of britain, that could be important in the next election because it is yet another facet of a fragmented electorate.

just to tap on the previous discussion about young people and reform, a further facet is yes, young man voted more for reform, but i looked it up. young women, 23%, nearly a quarter voted for the green. a higher share than perhaps any other demographic. you've got a big gender divide on both end of the spectrum. you have younger men drifting towards the right and younger women by a larger degree drifting towards the party on the progressive left.— drifting towards the party on the progressive left. yes, i picked up anecdotally _ progressive left. yes, i picked up anecdotally younger _ progressive left. yes, i picked up anecdotally younger women i progressive left. yes, i picked up| anecdotally younger women being enamoured by the green party. not necessarily the individual policies but that as a brand to tap into. that is one of the other themes, which is keir starmer moving labour to the centre will alienate people

on the far left and quite left as well. that is all for this episode. we recorded extra which you can listen on the podcast edition available in your podcasting feeds. thank you, we will be back with another one very soon. goodbye.

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of the nato summit. a couple of slip ups has lead to more calls for him to step aside