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but this strikes from jess fishlock saw them win the game and top the group, and made fishlock her country's joint top scorer. from 35 degrees in croatia to this in slovakia. do not adjust your set. but a ao—minute rain delay failed to dampen scottish spirits — claire emslie scoring twice in a 2—0 win. and northern ireland only needed two more points to secure their play—off place. in the end, they took all three against malta. kerry beattie capped off a 2—0 win which means all home nations are still in the mix for a spot in switzerland. matt graveling, bbc news. this programme continues on bbc one.
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this an american nightmare. with just four months to go until the presidential election. is it time for the democrats at the very top to speak truth to power? can stand by for a special tribute to our loved kirsty who tonight is presenting herfinal newsnight to our loved kirsty who tonight is presenting her final newsnight with the help of some well—known faces. good evening. welcome to newsnight and to my very old friends, alan cumming,
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who has just arrived from a very jittery america, and the today programme presenter, the marvellous martha kearney, who leaves her show next thursday. here too is the enfant terrible — lewis goodall — who started out on newsnight before he flew the coop for the news agents and lbc, and as always our very own nick watt. first, let's remind ourselves of those incidents from president biden last night. now i want to hand it over to the president of ukraine, who has as much courage as he has determination. ladies and gentlemen, president putin. president putin? he is going to beat president putin! president zelensky! i'm so focused on beating putin, we've got to worry about it. look, i wouldn't have picked vice president trump to be vice president if i think she was not qualified to be president. well, alan, you're a democrat supporter and fundraiser and you were withjoe biden last week. you hosted a fundraiser at which was joe biden and his wife. what was the
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atmosphere like? it joe biden and his wife. what was the atmosphere like?— atmosphere like? it was of the very definition of— atmosphere like? it was of the very definition of the _ atmosphere like? it was of the very definition of the elephant _ atmosphere like? it was of the very definition of the elephant in - atmosphere like? it was of the very definition of the elephant in the - definition of the elephant in the room because it was the night after the debate and everyone was apoplectic. it was just awful. i was at two events with him that day, the stonewall museum being opened and then this event. it wasn't good. nothing about it actually made me think that was an aberration of the night before. and i met him and had my photograph taken with him and that was insane, it's not funny but it kind of is. i was with my husband grant and we came in and everyone was stressed out, all the abiding people were freaking out and we came into this area where we were going to have our photos taken and grant came in and said tojill, i am a fellow teacher and i admire you and he said i am an illustrator so i
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teach illustration. and joe was next to me and said, i can't draw a damn thing. andi to me and said, i can't draw a damn thing. and i turned to him and said, he can't be good at everything because i didn't know what else to say and he kept talking as we were taken out. the thing about it as i feel, it is like we are all enabling something really bad by not speaking out more and i am glad that george clooney, i am glad democratic donors are withholding their money. we shouldn'tjust are withholding their money. we shouldn't just feel great are withholding their money. we shouldn'tjust feel great because he manages to have a firm grasp of foreign policy. what wejust manages to have a firm grasp of foreign policy. what we just saw, that man should not be president of the united states, and i love him and admire him greatly. but the united states, and i love him and admire him greatly.- and admire him greatly. but you literally arrive _ and admire him greatly. but you literally arrive this _ and admire him greatly. but you literally arrive this afternoon. i literally arrive this afternoon. more broadly as america jittery? everyone a sort of, for me i felt like there was a whole lot of people
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speaking out and discontent after the debate and then various attempts to calm the water, the george stephanopoulos thing, and what has happened is people were quiet for a while and the biden campaign went into repair mode and now people have a bit of system and organisation going, and the thing with george clooney and the donors, there is a guy called brian derek that has the oath thing which tells you where to put your money, he has a thing about passing the torch on, we love you but you have to let it go. i'm joined from newjersey by megyn kelly, journalist and host of the megyn kelly show on sirius xm, youtube and as a podcast — and who has interviewed donald trump many times. thank you forjoining us. what is your reaction to what alan cumming has just been saying? i am your reaction to what alan cumming hasjust been saying?— hasjust been saying? i am not surprised- _ hasjust been saying? i am not surprised. you _ hasjust been saying? i am not surprised. you and _ hasjust been saying? i am not surprised. you and i _ hasjust been saying? i am not surprised. you and i spoke - hasjust been saying? i am not i surprised. you and i spoke before the debate — surprised. you and i spoke before the debate and i told you that joe biden's_ the debate and i told you that joe biden's goal was to stay upright and
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donald _ biden's goal was to stay upright and donald trump's was to stay polite, and you _ donald trump's was to stay polite, and you kind of gave me some jazz saying _ and you kind of gave me some jazz saying i assume you're being facetious and i said no. that is the bil facetious and i said no. that is the big challenge forjoe biden, not to have a _ big challenge forjoe biden, not to have a massive senior moment out on that he _ have a massive senior moment out on that he had _ have a massive senior moment out on that he had multiple and his campaign imploded. the campaign has died, campaign imploded. the campaign has died. like_ campaign imploded. the campaign has died, like the deer that has been struck— died, like the deer that has been struck by— died, like the deer that has been struck by the truck and it has a few more _ struck by the truck and it has a few more steps — struck by the truck and it has a few more steps before it goes off to the side, _ more steps before it goes off to the side, that is his campaign. the donations— side, that is his campaign. the donations are stopping, the polls are dropping and it isjust a matter of time _ are dropping and it isjust a matter of time in — are dropping and it isjust a matter of time in my view before he is out. are the _ of time in my view before he is out. are the democrats in a really impossible position now? absolutely but it is one — impossible position now? absolutely but it is one of _ impossible position now? absolutely but it is one of their _ impossible position now? absolutely but it is one of their own _ impossible position now? absolutely but it is one of their own making. . but it is one of their own making. we have — but it is one of their own making. we have been covering biden's cognitive — we have been covering biden's cognitive decline on our show since
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democrats at their word that some of them were shocked but they shouldn't have been_ them were shocked but they shouldn't have been completely flawed because upset by what has happened. some have attended church services to give support to one another, brilliant. that is genuinely what it takes to keep a tramp quiet and it is working — takes to keep a tramp quiet and it is working. he is showing the discipline _ is working. he is showing the
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discipline of maintaining almost absolute — discipline of maintaining almost absolute silence. that will change when _ absolute silence. that will change when he _ absolute silence. that will change when he goes to the republican natiohai— when he goes to the republican national convention next week so he has to— national convention next week so he has to go— national convention next week so he has to go to — national convention next week so he has to go to the spotlight but it typically— has to go to the spotlight but it typically gives who is in the spotlight a massive boost. it has been _ spotlight a massive boost. it has been a _ spotlight a massive boost. it has been a bannerweek spotlight a massive boost. it has been a banner week for the trump campaign— been a banner week for the trump campaign andl been a banner week for the trump campaign and i genuinely believe it is the _ campaign and i genuinely believe it is the end — campaign and i genuinely believe it is the end of the biden one. if it is the end of the biden one. if it is the end of the biden one. if it is the end _ is the end of the biden one. if it is the end of— is the end of the biden one. if it is the end of the _ is the end of the biden one. if t is the end of the biden one. if t is the end of the biden one, who is it do you think... biden is way behind at the moment in the opinion polls, who do you think of the democrat possibilities has the best chance of changing the equation in the polls? i chance of changing the equation in the olls? , ., ., the polls? i understand that the smart money — the polls? i understand that the smart money is _ the polls? i understand that the smart money is on _ the polls? i understand that the smart money is on kamala - the polls? i understand that the | smart money is on kamala harris given her name recognition and title and the fact she has a black woman and the fact she has a black woman and this is an identity politics party. they would be hard pushed to brush past her, but the truth is they know she is no more likely to win than joe they know she is no more likely to win thanjoe biden. she is not popular even with democrats. i beg to differ. that —
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popular even with democrats. i beg to differ. that is _ popular even with democrats. i beg to differ. that is your _ popular even with democrats. i beg to differ. that is your opinion - popular even with democrats. i beg to differ. that is your opinion but i to differ. that is your opinion but look at the _ to differ. that is your opinion but look at the polls. _ to differ. that is your opinion but look at the polls. the _ to differ. that is your opinion but look at the polls. the latest - to differ. that is your opinion but look at the polls. the latest poll| look at the polls. the latest poll by emerson showed he would lose to trump by three and she would lose by six and it is not an outlier. what needs to happen is they need to have ate many primary and pick their top five or six. i ate many primary and pick their top five or six. ., ., , five or six. i agree that is the best plan _ five or six. i agree that is the best plan to _ five or six. i agree that is the best plan to do. _ five or six. i agree that is the best plan to do. i _ five or six. i agree that is the best plan to do. i think - five or six. i agree that is the best plan to do. i think gavin j best plan to do. i think gavin newsom. _ best plan to do. i think gavin newsom, i think there are some great people _ newsom, i think there are some great people out— newsom, i think there are some great people out there. and obviously kamala — people out there. and obviously kamala harris is in the spotlight right— kamala harris is in the spotlight right now— kamala harris is in the spotlight right now and she has been doing the rounds— right now and she has been doing the rounds and _ right now and she has been doing the rounds and the de facto campaign already. _ rounds and the de facto campaign already, but i think there are really— already, but i think there are really great... in a way, what you are saying. — really great... in a way, what you are saying, strangely i find myself agreeing — are saying, strangely i find myself agreeing with you in some ways, that actually— agreeing with you in some ways, that actually this— agreeing with you in some ways, that actually this has been a long time coming, _ actually this has been a long time coming, and it has been great hubris on the _ coming, and it has been great hubris on the part— coming, and it has been great hubris on the part of the president. he was going _ on the part of the president. he was going to _ on the part of the president. he was going to be — on the part of the president. he was going to be a transitional president and not _ going to be a transitional president and not run — going to be a transitional president and not run for a second time and then— and not run for a second time and then he _ and not run for a second time and then he did — and not run for a second time and then he did. i kind ofa
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and not run for a second time and then he did. i kind of a thing about america _ then he did. i kind of a thing about america in— then he did. i kind of a thing about america in general, that they don't seem to _ america in general, that they don't seem to have grasped the notion that the older— seem to have grasped the notion that the older you get, maybe you should chill out _ the older you get, maybe you should chill out and retire on things. the idea we _ chill out and retire on things. the idea we can — chill out and retire on things. the idea we can do whatever we want as lon- idea we can do whatever we want as lohg as _ idea we can do whatever we want as lohg as we _ idea we can do whatever we want as long as we want. idea we can do whatever we want as long as we want-— long as we want. interestingly, do ou think long as we want. interestingly, do you think there _ long as we want. interestingly, do you think there is _ long as we want. interestingly, do you think there is any _ long as we want. interestingly, do you think there is any sign - long as we want. interestingly, do you think there is any sign that. you think there is any sign that donald trump's age plays against him? i donald trump's age plays against him? ., ,,_ donald trump's age plays against him? ., , ., him? i have said publicly before that i definitely _ him? i have said publicly before that i definitely think _ him? i have said publicly before that i definitely think donald - him? i have said publicly before - that i definitely think donald trump has lost a step from where he was in 2016. �* . ., , has lost a step from where he was in 2016. �* _, , ., has lost a step from where he was in 2016. �* , ., ,., has lost a step from where he was in 2016. �* ,., ,., �* 2016. age comes for is all. don't i know it! it — 2016. age comes for is all. don't i know it! it is _ 2016. age comes for is all. don't i know it! it is not _ 2016. age comes for is all. don't i know it! it is not comparable - 2016. age comes for is all. don't i know it! it is not comparable to i know it! it is not comparable to what we are — know it! it is not comparable to what we are seeing _ know it! it is not comparable to what we are seeing with - know it! it is not comparable to what we are seeing with joe - know it! it is not comparable to - what we are seeing with joe biden. what we are seeing withjoe biden. donald trump is having the normal signs of ageing we'll get, you forget a word here and there, nothing on the scale of what we have seen from joe biden even in the last few years. this is a five alarm fire and who is pretending he could do four more years is doing just that, pretending. four more years is doing 'ust that, pretending.— four more years is doing 'ust that, retendinu. . ., ., ~ , pretending. what do you think is the most likely method? _ pretending. what do you think is the most likely method? we _ pretending. what do you think is the most likely method? we know - pretending. what do you think is the
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most likely method? we know the i pretending. what do you think is the i most likely method? we know the new york times op—ed with george clooney and an obama aide, presumably behind the scenes of this is what we are seeing? the scenes of this is what we are seeinu ? ., , the scenes of this is what we are seeinu ? .,, ~' the scenes of this is what we are seeinu ? .,, ,, ., the scenes of this is what we are seeina? ,, ., ., , seeing? people like obama... clearly obama doesn't _ seeing? people like obama... clearly obama doesn't want _ seeing? people like obama... clearly obama doesn't want him _ seeing? people like obama... clearly obama doesn't want him to _ seeing? people like obama... clearly obama doesn't want him to run - seeing? people like obama... clearly| obama doesn't want him to run either and every— obama doesn't want him to run either and every day it becomes more, people _ and every day it becomes more, people become braver and come out, but what _ people become braver and come out, but what i think the biggest tragedy of all this— but what i think the biggest tragedy of all this is, is that we are talking _ of all this is, is that we are talking about this absolutely insane and a _ talking about this absolutely insane and a terrible situation where the president — and a terrible situation where the president of the united states is incomprehensible and an audible and sometimes stop stocking altogether, but what _ sometimes stop stocking altogether, but what it obfuscates is the fact that at _ but what it obfuscates is the fact that at that debate trump lied constantly and was not checked by cnn reporters and last week he was accused _ cnn reporters and last week he was accused of— cnn reporters and last week he was accused of child rate. no one is talking — accused of child rate. no one is talking about that. why accused of child rate. no one is talking about that.— accused of child rate. no one is talking about that. accused of child rate. no one is - talking about that._ oh talking about that. why is that? oh m god, talking about that. why is that? oh my god. that _ talking about that. why is that? oh my god. that is _ talking about that. why is that? oh my god, that is ridiculous. - talking about that. why is that? oh my god, that is ridiculous. no - talking about that. why is that? oh my god, that is ridiculous. no one | my god, that is ridiculous. no one is accusing him of child rate. did ou see is accusing him of child rate. did you see the stuff that was released?
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and it _ you see the stuff that was released? and it is _ you see the stuff that was released? and it is absolutely unfounded and you shouldn't be allowed to repeat that on a programme like this. secondly it is not the moderator�*s job to fact check trump. it isjoe biden'sjob. i have anchored six presidential debates. it is not my job. if you come on the show i will fact check cue like i did with trump but at a presidential debate it is theirjob to fight it out. joe biden wasn't capable of doing it. that is
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why in part some democrats are saying he has to go. he can't prosecute the case against trump right, but the problem is the setting president of the united states is not mentally acute. he doesn't have it together, he is not compass mentis, and we are pretending that is not the case so we don't do bounce him out of the presidency but we certainly don't have to pretend he can do another
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four years. have to pretend he can do another four years-— have to pretend he can do another four ears. ~ ., .,, , ., , , four years. what has been happening toda with four years. what has been happening today with the _ four years. what has been happening today with the biden _ four years. what has been happening today with the biden camp? - four years. what has been happening today with the biden camp? it - four years. what has been happening today with the biden camp? it is - today with the biden camp? it is what alan has _ today with the biden camp? it is what alan has been talking about, a very significant _ what alan has been talking about, a very significant story _ what alan has been talking about, a very significant story in _ what alan has been talking about, a very significant story in the - what alan has been talking about, a very significant story in the new- very significant story in the new york— very significant story in the new york times _ very significant story in the new york times saying _ very significant story in the new york times saying some - very significant story in the new york times saying some major. york times saying some major democratic— york times saying some major democratic donors— york times saying some major democratic donors have - york times saying some major democratic donors have put i york times saying some major| democratic donors have put on york times saying some major- democratic donors have put on hold roughly— democratic donors have put on hold roughly $19 — democratic donors have put on hold roughly $19 million _ democratic donors have put on hold roughly $19 million in _ democratic donors have put on hold roughly $19 million in donations, i roughly $19 million in donations, the biggest — roughly $19 million in donations, the biggest pro—biden _ roughly $19 million in donations, the biggest pro—biden super- roughly $19 million in donations, l the biggest pro—biden super pac, roughly $19 million in donations, - the biggest pro—biden super pac, the future _ the biggest pro—biden super pac, the future forward — the biggest pro—biden super pac, the future forward fund, _ the biggest pro—biden super pac, the future forward fund, showing - the biggest pro—biden super pac, the future forward fund, showing how - future forward fund, showing how worried _ future forward fund, showing how worried they _ future forward fund, showing how worried they are. _ future forward fund, showing how worried they are. today— future forward fund, showing how worried they are. todayjoe - future forward fund, showing how worried they are. todayjoe biden future forward fund, showing how . worried they are. todayjoe biden is an rich— worried they are. todayjoe biden is an rich again. — worried they are. todayjoe biden is an rich again, the _ worried they are. todayjoe biden is an rich again, the key— worried they are. todayjoe biden is an rich again, the key swing - worried they are. todayjoe biden is an rich again, the key swing state. i an rich again, the key swing state. what _ an rich again, the key swing state. what he _ an rich again, the key swing state. what he is — an rich again, the key swing state. what he is focusing _ an rich again, the key swing state. what he is focusing on— an rich again, the key swing state. what he is focusing on is- an rich again, the key swing state. what he is focusing on is the -
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an rich again, the key swing state. what he is focusing on is the thingj what he is focusing on is the thing called _ what he is focusing on is the thing called project— what he is focusing on is the thing called project 2025, _ what he is focusing on is the thing called project 2025, seen - what he is focusing on is the thing called project 2025, seen to - what he is focusing on is the thing called project 2025, seen to be . what he is focusing on is the thingl called project 2025, seen to be one of the _ called project 2025, seen to be one of the main — called project 2025, seen to be one of the main themes _ called project 2025, seen to be one of the main themes of _ called project 2025, seen to be one of the main themes of a _ called project 2025, seen to be one of the main themes of a potential. of the main themes of a potential trump _ of the main themes of a potential trump presidency. _ of the main themes of a potential trump presidency. donald - of the main themes of a potential trump presidency. donald trump| trump presidency. donald trump saying _ trump presidency. donald trump saying he — trump presidency. donald trump saying he is— trump presidency. donald trump saying he is not— trump presidency. donald trump saying he is not sure _ trump presidency. donald trump saying he is not sure about - trump presidency. donald trump saying he is not sure about that i trump presidency. donald trump. saying he is not sure about that but it comes _ saying he is not sure about that but it comes from — saying he is not sure about that but it comes from the _ saying he is not sure about that but it comes from the heritage - it comes from the heritage foundation _ it comes from the heritage foundation and _ it comes from the heritage foundation and things - it comes from the heritage foundation and things likel foundation and things like disbanding _ foundation and things like disbanding the _ foundation and things like disbanding the educationl foundation and things like _ disbanding the education department, rejecting _ disbanding the education department, rejecting abortion _ disbanding the education department, rejecting abortion as _ disbanding the education department, rejecting abortion as health _ disbanding the education department, rejecting abortion as health care - rejecting abortion as health care and shredding _ rejecting abortion as health care and shredding climate _ rejecting abortion as health care and shredding climate change i and shredding climate change protections _ and shredding climate change protections. we _ and shredding climate change protections-— and shredding climate change rotections. ~ ., ., ., ., protections. we are about to hear from lewis _ protections. we are about to hear from lewis and _ protections. we are about to hear from lewis and martha _
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protections. we are about to hear from lewis and martha but - protections. we are about to hear from lewis and martha but first . protections. we are about to hear. from lewis and martha but first alan cumming was very prescient in this interview in 2019. last time i was very much for bernie. but with biden, bernie, even with elizabeth warren, i'm afraid say, who i love very much, ijust feel they are too old. and i hate to be ageist but this is a young person'sjob. and i think what's interesting in this country right now is that young people are the ones who are actually going to control this next election. well, young people going to control the next election, but in terms of the next election, but in terms of the today programme how do you deal with the fact that trump is so incredibly quiet. the with the fact that trump is so incredibly quiet. the audience is focusina incredibly quiet. the audience is focusing on _ incredibly quiet. the audience is focusing on biden _ incredibly quiet. the audience is focusing on biden himself- incredibly quiet. the audience is focusing on biden himself and l incredibly quiet. the audience is i focusing on biden himself and the mounting pressure on biden and i take on board everything you're saying. if you think about what he is doing now, going to detroit, tomorrow he is going to delaware. his home state as a senator. he is
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going to be bolstered by the democratic faithful. he will be able to say to himself, 0k, democratic faithful. he will be able to say to himself, ok, the likes of george clooney, alan if you have a mini primary, if you have the candidates you're talking about fighting it out amongst themselves, that is going to be a divided party, they will be critical each other, and they'll be getting closer and closer to the election itself. ii closer and closer to the election itself. . closer and closer to the election itself. , ., , ., , , ., g ., itself. if this does happen and joe biden itself. if this does happen and joe itiden makes _ itself. if this does happen and joe biden makes this _ itself. if this does happen and joe biden makes this decision, - itself. if this does happen and joe biden makes this decision, he - itself. if this does happen and joe biden makes this decision, he is i biden makes this decision, he is going _ biden makes this decision, he is going to — biden makes this decision, he is going to have to own this decision, therefore _ going to have to own this decision, therefore they are going to have to
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do it in_ therefore they are going to have to do it in a _ therefore they are going to have to do it in a way that has to be orderly. _ do it in a way that has to be orderly, the only way it can be orderly— orderly, the only way it can be orderly is _ orderly, the only way it can be orderly is for kamala harris, and there _ orderly is for kamala harris, and there are — orderly is for kamala harris, and there are severe questions of her credibility— there are severe questions of her credibility as a candidate. what do ou think credibility as a candidate. what do you think about _ credibility as a candidate. what do you think about her? _ credibility as a candidate. what do you think about her? i _ credibility as a candidate. what do you think about her? i like - credibility as a candidate. what do you think about her? i like her. i l you think about her? i like her. i think... she — you think about her? i like her. i think... she is— you think about her? i like her. i think... she is not _ you think about her? i like her. i think... she is not my _ you think about her? i like her. i think... she is not my first i you think about her? i like her. i i think... she is not my first choice. ithink— think... she is not my first choice. i think she — think... she is not my first choice. i think she is — think... she is not my first choice. i think she is kind _ think... she is not my first choice. i think she is kind of— think... she is not my first choice. i think she is kind of too— think... she is not my first choice. i think she is kind of too tainted i i think she is kind of too tainted with— i think she is kind of too tainted with the — i think she is kind of too tainted with the old... _ i think she is kind of too tainted with the old... the _ i think she is kind of too tainted with the old... the thing - i think she is kind of too tainted with the old... the thing aboutl i think she is kind of too taintedl with the old... the thing about it is, you've — with the old... the thing about it is, you've got _ with the old... the thing about it is. you've got to— with the old... the thing about it is, you've got to remember- with the old... the thing about it is, you've got to remember the i with the old... the thing about it i is, you've got to remember the only people _ is, you've got to remember the only people who — is, you've got to remember the only people who are _ is, you've got to remember the only people who are going _
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is, you've got to remember the only people who are going to _ is, you've got to remember the only people who are going to decide i is, you've got to remember the only people who are going to decide this| people who are going to decide this election— people who are going to decide this election are — people who are going to decide this election are a — people who are going to decide this election are a few— people who are going to decide this election are a few people _ people who are going to decide this election are a few people in - people who are going to decide this election are a few people in a - people who are going to decide this election are a few people in a few. election are a few people in a few states, _ election are a few people in a few states, the — election are a few people in a few states, the swing _ election are a few people in a few states, the swing voters, - election are a few people in a few states, the swing voters, these . election are a few people in a few. states, the swing voters, these are people _ states, the swing voters, these are people who — states, the swing voters, these are people who have _ states, the swing voters, these are people who have not _ states, the swing voters, these are people who have not decided - states, the swing voters, these are people who have not decided yet i people who have not decided yet between — people who have not decided yet between someone _ people who have not decided yet between someone who - people who have not decided yet between someone who is - people who have not decided yet i between someone who is proposing fascism _ between someone who is proposing fascism and — between someone who is proposing fascism and joe _ between someone who is proposing fascism and joe biden, _ between someone who is proposing fascism and joe biden, who - between someone who is proposing fascism and joe biden, who has i between someone who is proposing fascism and joe biden, who has a l fascism and joe biden, who has a really— fascism and joe biden, who has a really great — fascism and joe biden, who has a really great things _ fascism and joe biden, who has a really great things for— fascism and joe biden, who has a really great things for the - fascism and joe biden, who has a| really great things for the working people _ really great things for the working people of— really great things for the working people of america. _ really great things for the working people of america. if _ really great things for the working people of america. if you - really great things for the working people of america. if you have i really great things for the working | people of america. if you have not made _ people of america. if you have not made that— people of america. if you have not made that decision _ people of america. if you have not made that decision yet _ people of america. if you have not made that decision yet you're i people of america. if you have not made that decision yet you're noti made that decision yet you're not that bright—
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made that decision yet you're not that bright and _ made that decision yet you're not that bright and you _ made that decision yet you're not that bright and you don't - made that decision yet you're not that bright and you don't have i made that decision yet you're not i that bright and you don't have great powers _ that bright and you don't have great powers of— that bright and you don't have great powers of analysis _ that bright and you don't have great powers of analysis so _ that bright and you don't have great powers of analysis so you _ that bright and you don't have great powers of analysis so you will- that bright and you don't have great powers of analysis so you will rely. powers of analysis so you will rely on things— powers of analysis so you will rely on things like _ powers of analysis so you will rely on things like how _ powers of analysis so you will rely on things like how well _ powers of analysis so you will rely on things like how well someone i on things like how well someone speaks _ on things like how well someone speaks in — on things like how well someone speaks in a — on things like how well someone speaks in a debate, _ on things like how well someone speaks in a debate, that's- on things like how well someone j speaks in a debate, that's what's terrifying — speaks in a debate, that's what's terri int. . , speaks in a debate, that's what's terri int. ., , ., terrifying. the tragedy forjoe biden is terrifying. the tragedy forjoe iitiden is he — terrifying. the tragedy forjoe biden is he believed - terrifying. the tragedy forjoe biden is he believed his i terrifying. the tragedy forjoe i biden is he believed his god-given biden is he believed his god—given role was _ biden is he believed his god—given role was to— biden is he believed his god—given role was to block trump and now it looks _ role was to block trump and now it looks like — role was to block trump and now it looks like he might be a trump enabler — right now i would like to take an early look at the front pages, beginning with the daily mail. looters could run amok if we don't release prisoners. the ft, top house
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democrat crisis meeting as pressure on biden to quit the race, that is the leading house democrat there, hakeem jeffries. the telegraph, half the cabinet accused of planning hypocrisy. kim darroch, former ambassador to the us, says it is time for biden to stand down. the daily mirror, all about football, roar us on, come on england. and the daily express, win or lose, please
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win. and then the times, finally, ministry says violent criminals will go free, there is tony blair and his wife at an incredibly wealthy wedding in india. but top donors piled pressure on biden to quit race. so this is kirsty's last ever newsnight. she has presented this programme for more than 30 years. so tonight, on her final show, it's time to ask her a few questions. by by the body ofjan ravens. kirsty, you've _ by the body ofjan ravens. kirsty, you've got — by the body ofjan ravens. kirsty, you've got such a great legacy of the english political and cultural icon in— the english political and cultural icon in this country, i really admire _ icon in this country, i really admire that at the same time as
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that _ admire that at the same time as that, you've also managed to keep your life _ that, you've also managed to keep your life at — that, you've also managed to keep your life at home in another country. _ your life at home in another country, in glasgow, and that is mostly— country, in glasgow, and that is mostly to — country, in glasgow, and that is mostly to do my thing, with the caledonian sleeper train? the caledonian — caledonian sleeper train? iia: caledonian sleeper train? tia: caledonian sleeper has caledonian sleeper train? “ii2 caledonian sleeper has actually caledonian sleeper train? i““i2 caledonian sleeper has actually been an absolute boom, there was a rumour that i actually can keep it waiting, you know, if i'm a bit late from the
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studio. i you know, if i'm a bit late from the studio. . . you know, if i'm a bit late from the studio. ., ., ., you know, if i'm a bit late from the studio. . ., ., , ., you know, if i'm a bit late from the studio. ., ., ., , ., ., studio. i have heard that you have held u- studio. i have heard that you have held up the _ studio. i have heard that you have held up the train. _ studio. i have heard that you have held up the train. i _ studio. i have heard that you have held up the train. i had, _ studio. i have heard that you have held up the train. i had, albert i held up the train. i had, albert finney in _ held up the train. i had, albert finney in the — held up the train. i had, albert finney in the dressing - held up the train. i had, albert finney in the dressing room, i | held up the train. i had, albert i finney in the dressing room, i stand there in the platform going, stop that train! but more on that story later! i that train! but more on that story later! ., ,., ., that train! but more on that story later! ., ., ., ., y., �* later! i also heard a rumour you're asked to provide _ later! i also heard a rumour you're asked to provide the _ later! i also heard a rumour you're asked to provide the voice - later! i also heard a rumour you're asked to provide the voice for i later! i also heard a rumour you're asked to provide the voice for the | asked to provide the voice for the announcement for the caledonian sleeper — announcement for the caledonian sleeper. we announcement for the caledonian slee er. ~ ., ., ., sleeper. we did have a little trial run of me _ sleeper. we did have a little trial run of me announcing _ sleeper. we did have a little trial run of me announcing the - sleeper. we did have a little trial. run of me announcing the stations and so forth but i have this habit
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of aligning my constant so much and sort of rushing over the words, you know, if you're going to aberdeen you've got to go in the first four coaches to fort william, please stay in the back, everyone ended up in dundee, it was a disaster! ibtre in the back, everyone ended up in dundee, it was a disaster! are you takint the dundee, it was a disaster! are you taking the caledonian _ dundee, it was a disaster! are you taking the caledonian sleeper i dundee, it was a disaster! are you | taking the caledonian sleeper home tonight? _ taking the caledonian sleeper home tonight? i_ taking the caledonian sleeper home tonitht? .., �* taking the caledonian sleeper home tonitht? ., , tonight? i can't actually take the caledonian _ tonight? i can't actually take the caledonian sleeper— tonight? i can't actually take the caledonian sleeper home - tonight? i can't actually take the | caledonian sleeper home tonight because i have several trunks of
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product sweaters, and vivienne westwood skirts, so i have hired a you whole van. —— prada sweaters. so i would drive up the motorway tomorrow to get back home, and get bladder tonight! glad tomorrow to get back home, and get bladder tonight!— thanks, jan — i mean, kirsty! well, now, there have so many special moments over the years. let's take a look back at some of kirsty's best bits. music: video killed the radio star by the buggles. you are a big figure and you are a big personality and some in your own party would say you are a complete control freak. that's one minute to air, newsnight. kirsty wark is in londonderry. with its sectarian division and its bloody history the mood of derry tonight is as good a guide as any to what people in northern ireland are feeling after this roller—coaster week. this morning we are going to witness the symbolic start to a new chapter in scotland's history and indeed the history of the united kingdom. doesn't this underline the belief that scots' views are not taken into account? absolute nonsense. you have president trump appropriating rocketman to poke fun at kim jong—un. what did you make of that? i don't care. good evening. newsnight is here in finland... warsaw. taipei. belfast. washington. berlin. sri lanka. scotland. boston. kirsty is there. welcome to a very noisy convention hall in boston, hence the fetching headphones. do you think peace in burma is unattainable? we can achieve political peace, national peace, but absolute peace will have to be worked at for himself or herself. in the aftermath of the attacks there was the idea that nothing would be the same again in culture
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and society and that things would change for the better. you tried to counsel president bush not to call it a war on terror. idid. you thought that was wrong. i lost. he decided to call it that. the only way that you could invade iraq was if you were absolutely certain, the only legal basis was that you were certain he had a wmd, not an intention. how many times have we been over this argument? good evening. dunblane today suffered one of the most appalling acts of mass murder ever witnessed in this country. in the last hour, there are reports of many dead in paris and several major suspected terror attacks in the city. tonight bill clinton speaks for the first time since nelson mandela's death. when he smiled at you, if you looked in his eyes you knew he was not just smiling, he was looking in your soul. with some strong language, newsnight now on bbc two with kirsty wark. somebody talk to me for christ's sake! music: she's a lady by tom jones goodness! tell me, your attitude to women. my what? yes. let's look at this image of the bikini clad women in a jet engine. do you really think that's appropriate for an airline? do you think that's the way to attract people to your airline? i think there's many ways of attracting people to our airline. we do lots of different ads, i'm not responsible for all the ads that go out there. but if we put the... but you are responsible for the tone of the company. if a no deal looms, you can to avoid that? i am committed to making sure we avoid no deal. even if that means resigning as a minister? kirsty, as i said, there's lots of moving parts at the moment. i'm just going to carry on trying to make my point in my words. but you don't rule out resigning if you have to. borisjohnson in the itv debate consistently refused to rule out is he right to do that? i myself don't believe any to prorogue parliament. today borisjohnson asked the queen to prorogue parliament. he's pulled a flanker. music: walk this way by aerosmith desperately listening on the top lio and your kinks song. so what was the kinks song? so what is your name? georgios kyriacos panayiotou is my real name. snappy little pop name! do you ever, uh, no. for someone whose body has very much been part of their work, what do whatjohn major said tonight. is there any otherjob in the cabinet you'd like to do apart from being chancellor? i'm not going to be drawn into that. i'm happy doing the job that that i'm doing. come on! come on. would you like to be... tackling unemployment has been the big issue. would you like to be prime minister? kirsty. .. so how about you? what about an ambassadorship to the us? er, no, thank you very much. would you do a deal with theresa may? no. are you sure thatjeremy corbyn voted to remain? absolutely sure. has he told you that? that's an absurd question. just time to get on with some bedtime reading. we'll be back tomorrow night. until then, goodnight.
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i am now cooking very quickly some linguine with spicy tomato sauce and mussels. kirsty, you've been a legend in britishjournalism for more than three decades. tough but fair and always exceptionally smart. i wish you the very best of luck, and i'm sure you'll carry on doing great things. to say you are a broadcasting titan, obviously across the uk, but particularly here in scotland, would be an understatement. it's hard to imagine that landscape without you. i had my very, very first interview experience with you when i was just 17 or 18 years old. i was in awe of you then, and it's fair to say that hasn't really changed. we all owe a special thanks to kirsty wark, who has been a pathbreaker in britishjournalism. she's an interviewer who's asked the searching questions, a documentary maker whose originality has given us new insight
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into the big issues of the day, and always a broadcaster who enhanced our knowledge of current affairs. thank you, kirsty. to finish these off, i'm going to add a little bit of tinned tomatoes. kirsty, many congratulations on over three decades presenting newsnight. you have questioned us, quizzed us, held us to account and often terrified us. but a great record. many congratulations. now you're retiring, but you can always retire after a long career and then make a comeback. best wishes. well done with everything. brilliant. i'm going to put my linguine in here. hi, mum. congratulations on your last day at newsnight. i know how hard it's going to be for you to leave the programme and the team that you love so much, but i'm so proud of you and the amazing career that you've had there. and thank you for being the best mum in the world alongside that. 0k, and i'm going to mix this up, in like so. mum, a huge congratulations on an incredible run of over 30 years at newsnight.
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my entire life you've been on this programme and it's been such a pleasure to watch you work and such an inspiration to me and my sister. pop a little into the plate. working with kirsty, the most important thing about her, i think, is her incredible enthusiasm. i mean, she really is the scottish tigger. i am going to givejung chang a little linguine with mussels. spicy. of all the things i admire the most, it's the very gentle and conversational way that you can ask a difficult and pertinent question. you do that better than anyone. you've been an inspiration to a lot of us. the entire team just adores you. you are the queen of newsnight and we love you and we wish you well. you are an incredible journalist and amazing woman, and it was wonderful to find out that you are also a complete laugh. we are going to miss you. and if that's left you lacking in festive cheer, you could take comfort in the return of everyone's favourite nanny on the big screen tonight. sleep well. goodnight.
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