and we are new and we are now expected thrown out. and we are now expected donald trump to announce his nominee for vice president. it was rumoured that could happen on monday, the first day of the convention, and our newest partner here, cbs news, has also said he is expected to meet that announcement in the afternoon, and we could possibly see donald trump here at the convention centre. it has been filling in slowly with delegates arriving, but it is rumoured that he would arrive here this afternoon and that's might speak as well, ever so briefly, we believe, because he is excited to speak later in the week as well, but thatis speak later in the week as well, but that is what we are here today and so much has been happening. an excellent summary of an avalanche of news which is by your chief. we are recording this episode at 534 on monday evening. so while you were listening to the some of those things may have developed a bit further. justin, a first question to

you, are we learning any more about how this could've happened to? you don't need to know anything about american politics to know that the bubble of security around the american president is the tightest security you could imagine. it’s american president is the tightest security you could imagine. it's not “ust security you could imagine. it's not just security _ security you could imagine. it's not just security on _ security you could imagine. it's not just security on the _ security you could imagine. it's not just security on the day _ security you could imagine. it's not just security on the day as - security you could imagine. it's not just security on the day as the - just security on the day as the other— just security on the day as the other thing i just security on the day as the otherthing i remember just security on the day as the other thing i remember from just security on the day as the otherthing i rememberfrom my time in the _ otherthing i rememberfrom my time in the states— otherthing i rememberfrom my time in the states and watching presidential towards around the world — presidential towards around the world~ i— presidential towards around the world. i followed george w. bush to of all— world. i followed george w. bush to of all places such field, the consistency of tony blair in jullien there _ consistency of tony blair in jullien there in_ consistency of tony blair in jullien there in airfares one in nearby airport— there in airfares one in nearby airport and _ there in airfares one in nearby airport and they fear you in a helicopter, a black hawk helicopter to the _ helicopter, a black hawk helicopter to the then prime minister house to because _ to the then prime minister house to because they don't think the roads are safe _ because they don't think the roads are safe because they have not scanned — are safe because they have not scanned them and they brought their own fuel— scanned them and they brought their own fuel because they did not trust british— own fuel because they did not trust british air— own fuel because they did not trust british air fuels. so there's a huge amount— british air fuels. so there's a huge amount of— british air fuels. so there's a huge amount of effort, no expense spared effort _ amount of effort, no expense spared effort that _ amount of effort, no expense spared

effort that goes into the secret service's — effort that goes into the secret service's work in normal times. the allegation— service's work in normal times. the allegation is— service's work in normal times. the allegation is that the effort did not go — allegation is that the effort did not go into this, they did not scahhed _ not go into this, they did not scanned in advance, they did not know— scanned in advance, they did not know there — scanned in advance, they did not know there was high ground, they were _ know there was high ground, they were hot— know there was high ground, they were not liaising with the local police — were not liaising with the local police and further republican saying the secret service, like other institutions have gone woke there's too much _ institutions have gone woke there's too much diversity and equity and inclusion— too much diversity and equity and inclusion the point that some of the pictures— inclusion the point that some of the pictures particularly the female security— pictures particularly the female security officials who looked on occasion — security officials who looked on occasion if they are a bit lost. goodness. _ occasion if they are a bit lost. goodness, you expect you would do in those _ goodness, you expect you would do in those circumstances. now all sorts of pressure — those circumstances. now all sorts of pressure on the secret service is in the _ of pressure on the secret service is in the individuals concerned saying, again. _ in the individuals concerned saying, again. why— in the individuals concerned saying, again, why was he allowed to do that fist bump _ again, why was he allowed to do that fist bump in — again, why was he allowed to do that fist bump in the air and made a great— fist bump in the air and made a great shot. _ fist bump in the air and made a great shot, possibly the election winning — great shot, possibly the election winning shot, but that's not the way the secret— winning shot, but that's not the way the secret service rolls. generally when _ the secret service rolls. generally when there is a ginger to someone, they bundled them very roughly to

what they— they bundled them very roughly to what they regard as cover, whether on the _ what they regard as cover, whether on the ground or in a card —— when there— on the ground or in a card —— when there is— on the ground or in a card —— when there isa— on the ground or in a card —— when there is a danger. they are all ontine — there is a danger. they are all online from the assassination attempt — online from the assassination attempt of ronald rendered —— ronald reagan _ attempt of ronald rendered —— ronald reagan in _ attempt of ronald rendered —— ronald reagan in they were on him physically down to the car and ground — physically down to the car and ground so why did they allow donald trump _ ground so why did they allow donald trump to— ground so why did they allow donald trump to do that because if there were _ trump to do that because if there were another shooter they would've gotten _ were another shooter they would've gotten a _ were another shooter they would've gotten a shot. there are real questions _ gotten a shot. there are real questions notjust fake ones gotten a shot. there are real questions not just fake ones from conspiracy— questions not just fake ones from conspiracy theorists, there are real guestions — conspiracy theorists, there are real questions on how this was allowed. i questions on how this was allowed. glance at questions on how this was allowed. i glance at the long running discourse around to the secret service because in the uk we have that clint eastwood line of fire, the huber professional cliched view of them but actually does not take a lot of digging to see a lot of claims, some a bit conspiracy like but some potentially valid going back a few years about the secret service.

that's right and i think it is important to note that a lot of conspiracies have been circulating online since what happened on saturday and it is important to keep our focus on the facts that we do know at this point. but one of the most important points whichjustin mentioned which is about the organisation of the secret service and what critics now say is a shift of woke within the secret service. we know congress has called the head of the secret service for a hearing as they are demanding answers as well. there have been questions asked about the ability of the secret service to carry out security at such big events and in fact, one of the question asked in this case as well, is whether the secret service had adequately canvassed the area and whether they had the right plan in place to make sure that someone cannot climb on a shed 150 yards away. so this is going to be a very difficult moment for the secret service as this massive convention

is under way. they say they have got it here and security is good here. let's talk about the response from president biden we saw him and give remarks a couple of times culminating with the box office thing —— the most box office thing a president can do which is sitting at the desk in the oval office and taking to the channels. the olitical taking to the channels. the political situations - taking to the channels. tie: political situations gotten very heated. it's time to cool down. we all have a responsibility to do so. yes, we have deeply felt strong disagreements. the stakes in this election are enormously high. so many things there. first, bite widening the scope of people who have been victims of this kind of thing to include all parties and all levels of politics, notjust making this about the attack on donald trump. i this about the attack on donald trum -. ., �* this about the attack on donald trum. ., �* ~ ., this about the attack on donald trum. .,�* ~ ., this about the attack on donald trum. ., �* ~ ., ., ~ trump. i don't know, maybe it worked for some peeple. _ trump. i don't know, maybe it worked for some people, but _ trump. i don't know, maybe it worked for some people, but to _ trump. i don't know, maybe it worked for some people, but to me, - trump. i don't know, maybe it worked for some people, but to me, i - trump. i don't know, maybe it worked for some people, but to me, i felt - for some people, but to me, i felt to be _ for some people, but to me, i felt to be a _ for some people, but to me, i felt to be a rather bloodless, i don't

know— to be a rather bloodless, i don't know what — to be a rather bloodless, i don't know what to think... i will contrast— know what to think... i will contrast what he said in a formal stilted _ contrast what he said in a formal stilted setting with what josh schapiro said. josh schapiro is the governor— schapiro said. josh schapiro is the governor of— schapiro said. josh schapiro is the governor of pennsylvania, a democrat, one of the people who may democrats _ democrat, one of the people who may democrats believe should be the presidential candidate this time around — presidential candidate this time around rather thanjoe biden and for me, around rather thanjoe biden and for me. he _ around rather thanjoe biden and for me, he knocked it out of the park. he said. _ me, he knocked it out of the park. he said. all— me, he knocked it out of the park. he said, all the things you would expect, — he said, all the things you would expect, the comforter in chief would be expected, so in the state of pennsylvania he talked about the fireman — pennsylvania he talked about the fireman who was killed, his family, called _ fireman who was killed, his family, called them a hero. he talked to the window— called them a hero. he talked to the window and — called them a hero. he talked to the window and the daughters. it was 'ust window and the daughters. it was just something immediate and from the heart _ just something immediate and from the heart and it did not mention other— the heart and it did not mention other political violence. it just concentrated on this. to me, and to a lot— concentrated on this. to me, and to

a lot of— concentrated on this. to me, and to a lot of americans, whatjoe biden said, _ a lot of americans, whatjoe biden said. ok. — a lot of americans, whatjoe biden said. ok. it— a lot of americans, whatjoe biden said, ok, it takes all the a lot of americans, whatjoe biden said, ok, it takes allthe boxes, but the — said, ok, it takes allthe boxes, but the stuff about violence was quite _ but the stuff about violence was quite boilerplate. everyone says there's— quite boilerplate. everyone says there's no — quite boilerplate. everyone says there's no place for violence, but did not— there's no place for violence, but did not address any of it in any detail— did not address any of it in any detail and _ did not address any of it in any detail and crucially, he did not do the stuff— detail and crucially, he did not do the stuff that american leaders are meant _ the stuff that american leaders are meant to— the stuff that american leaders are meant to do which is talk personally to the _ meant to do which is talk personally to the people who had been involved. not to— to the people who had been involved. not to compare at all, because they are incomparable, but i remember coming home one day after the sandy hook massacre at the elementary school and watching the address from president 0bama about that and it being so... i hate to say shakespearean because the presenter says it is a weak comparison, but it was an extraordinary bit of rhetoric at a moment of immense national tragedy. at a moment of immense national traced . ., ~' at a moment of immense national traced . ., ~ ., at a moment of immense national traced . ., ,, ., ., at a moment of immense national traced. ., «m,, ., �* tragedy. you think about 0bama, bill clinton, ronald _ tragedy. you think about 0bama, bill clinton, ronald reagan _ tragedy. you think about obama, bill clinton, ronald reagan back- tragedy. you think about 0bama, bill clinton, ronald reagan back in - tragedy. you think about 0bama, bill clinton, ronald reagan back in the i clinton, ronald reagan back in the day heing — clinton, ronald reagan back in the day being able to do it with the

challenger disaster. it is actually the job— challenger disaster. it is actually the job of— challenger disaster. it is actually the job of the president. i don't know— the job of the president. i don't know trut— the job of the president. i don't know but i_ the job of the president. i don't know but i feel if you cannot do that, _ know but i feel if you cannot do that, it — know but i feel if you cannot do that, it would be cruel to say, but what _ that, it would be cruel to say, but what are — that, it would be cruel to say, but what are you for? there all sorts of decisions _ what are you for? there all sorts of decisions that cabinet members and secretary— decisions that cabinet members and secretary of state are taking in other— secretary of state are taking in other people are chipping in on, the nationai— other people are chipping in on, the national security adviser, your big moment— national security adviser, your big moment is— national security adviser, your big moment is when there is a national of coming _ moment is when there is a national of coming together and you need to be able _ of coming together and you need to be able to— of coming together and you need to be able to do it and eat if you don't — be able to do it and eat if you don't quite manage to do it, it is tricky _ don't quite manage to do it, it is tric . ~ don't quite manage to do it, it is tric . , don't quite manage to do it, it is tric .~ , ., ., don't quite manage to do it, it is tric .~ , ., tricky. we absolutely have to see these remarks _ tricky. we absolutely have to see these remarks within _ tricky. we absolutely have to see these remarks within the - tricky. we absolutely have to see these remarks within the contexti tricky. we absolutely have to see i these remarks within the context of what was happening a few days before the assassination attempt which was a massive crisis in the democratic party over president biden of mental acuity whether he is the right person to be their nominee. and he was scheduled to speak up for about ten minutes, we were all waiting for the address, it ended up being around six minutes and i agree, it was quite short and dry and he takes all the network sees a big audience

there. the one thing that took away from it was a lot of questions were asked as to how will president biden continue the campaign going forward after this horrible event. he did say, at the rnc, there would to be people on stage you criticise my record, my policies, i will be going on the road this week to talk about my record, to help my record and we had differing visions for america and he went on to say, that does not mean we have to resort to violence. so that gave us a bit of an idea on how he may proceed in the coming days he's heading to nevada, a critical battleground state. i think justin is right. everyone is hanging on president biden or has been hanging on his every word and it probably was not the address to the nation that some people may have been expecting or hoping for. justin, before you go, but before we started recording you said, look at the times, look at the times, what did you want me to see there? i’m did you want me to see there? i'm lookin: at did you want me to see there? i'm looking at my phone here, the times have the _ looking at my phone here, the times have the uke of poll, a lot of uk

posters are _ have the uke of poll, a lot of uk posters are active and respected in the united — posters are active and respected in the united states but they have done a survey— the united states but they have done a survey and it is what you would expect _ a survey and it is what you would expect and — a survey and it is what you would expect and it does all the battleground states so all the states — battleground states so all the states that could potentially change hands, _ states that could potentially change hands, most will not change, california _ hands, most will not change, california will go to the democratic nominee. — california will go to the democratic nominee, texas, oklahoma will go to the republican nominee which will be donald _ the republican nominee which will be donald trump. but there probably six or seven _ donald trump. but there probably six or seven states that won't but you can fight _ or seven states that won't but you can fight over in think could go either— can fight over in think could go either way— can fight over in think could go either way and they will decide the election— either way and they will decide the election and what the time has said in this— election and what the time has said in this yougov pull is that all seven— in this yougov pull is that all seven are _ in this yougov pull is that all seven are going to go to donald trump — seven are going to go to donald trump at — seven are going to go to donald trump at the moment. and three or four have _ trump at the moment. and three or four have been toss ups. so it is not a _ four have been toss ups. so it is not a complete cratering because that does — not a complete cratering because that does not happen in this polarised election, there are plenty of people _ polarised election, there are plenty of people who will still vote for joe biden whether or not he can move his arms _ joe biden whether or not he can move his arms or— joe biden whether or not he can move his arms or lips or whatever, they will still— his arms or lips or whatever, they will still vote for him and the same with donald trump. but at the

margins. _ with donald trump. but at the margins, this does make a difference and some _ margins, this does make a difference and some of— margins, this does make a difference and some of the margins in those states, _ and some of the margins in those states, if— and some of the margins in those states, if you member the last time around, _ states, if you member the last time around, i_ states, if you member the last time around, i don't remember the exact figures, _ around, idon't remember the exact figures, trut— around, i don't remember the exact figures, but something like 30,000 voters _ figures, but something like 30,000 voters in _ figures, but something like 30,000 voters in an— figures, but something like 30,000 voters in an entire estate were deciding — voters in an entire estate were deciding these things and if they all go _ deciding these things and if they all go againstjoe biden, that is not a _ all go againstjoe biden, that is not a path _ all go againstjoe biden, that is not a path for him to win the presidency. that then re—invigorates the whole _ presidency. that then re—invigorates the whole business which has gone off the _ the whole business which has gone off the back burner, but can you reinvigorate something off the burner, — reinvigorate something off the burner, it— reinvigorate something off the burner, it reinvigorate the business of what _ burner, it reinvigorate the business of what you — burner, it reinvigorate the business of what you do about biden which i think— of what you do about biden which i think him — of what you do about biden which i think him in— of what you do about biden which i think him in the white house, that thought— think him in the white house, that thought is— think him in the white house, that thought is that for a bit because of what is _ thought is that for a bit because of what is happened to donald trump at this awful— what is happened to donald trump at this awful event in pennsylvania. but if— this awful event in pennsylvania. but if there are more polls, they will reinvigorate. as he goes to the question. _ will reinvigorate. as he goes to the question, do we care about this? the democrats _ question, do we care about this? the democrats have been demonising from saying _ democrats have been demonising from saying it _ democrats have been demonising from saying it will be a disaster for american _ saying it will be a disaster for american democracy, it will imprison his opponents, etc, etc, this is the most _ his opponents, etc, etc, this is the most important election of all time

and suddenly they say, what the hell. _ and suddenly they say, what the hell. we — and suddenly they say, what the hell, we will put joe and suddenly they say, what the hell, we will putjoe biden in, although— hell, we will putjoe biden in, although we know from all polls, he is likely— although we know from all polls, he is likely to _ although we know from all polls, he is likely to lose or will they say, we believe _ is likely to lose or will they say, we believe what we are telling you and because of that, we will put even _ and because of that, we will put even more — and because of that, we will put even more pressure on him to go. i feel even more pressure on him to go. feel like we even more pressure on him to go. i feel like we have had our own episode of american cast. i will give you a multiple—choice in this last three minutes. do you want to talk about... i last three minutes. do you want to talk about- - -_ talk about... i was never good at multiple-choice. _ talk about. .. i was never good at multiple-choice. if— talk about... i was never good at multiple-choice. if you _ talk about... i was never good at multiple-choice. if you want - talk about... i was never good at multiple-choice. if you want to l talk about... i was never good at i multiple-choice. if you want to talk about the judgment _ multiple-choice. if you want to talk about the judgment in _ multiple-choice. if you want to talk about the judgment in florida - multiple-choice. if you want to talk| about the judgment in florida about the confidential documents case or, do you want to give us a preview about the next ten hours of the republican convention. take it away. let's talk about the preview of the rest of the convention because as we said, we are expecting a vice presidential nomination and, as you may hear behind me, the crowd was actually starting to fill in. there

are delegates starting to fill in and if you look over my shoulder coming see the different state flags and everyone taking their seats as the programme expecting to start. so let's talk about that. when do i need to tune in? one of the key marker points? will it bejd vance who will be selected as the running mate? i was rereading his autobiography which, he called it, tells you about his background. it certainly does. there are 2400 delegates expected to be on hand to officially nominate donald trump, so you could probably tune in and the next few hours to keep an eye on what happens. 0ne next few hours to keep an eye on what happens. one of the reasons she definitely tune in is because we have heard rumours that donald trump himself will make an appearance here today may be taking the stage, so that will be something to watch, his first public appearance after that assassination attempt in pennsylvania. the artificial speakers as well. some members of

the family of donald trump, like his sons donald junior and eric are scheduled to speak so we will have to see who takes the stage first. we do not have the official schedule yet. as for the vice presidential nominee, jd vance is rumoured to be the forerunner. a lot of people may know him from his book and we know world leaders, our member of the german chancellor saying he read that book and was in tears because he found it such a moving account of growing up in the white working class environment and making it to success and that it gave a bit of an idea of what some working—class communities around the world are facing. i think one of the reasons jd vance could be the favourite at this point, that is what we are hearing here, is because he has been a staunch supporter of donald trump, he is young, he presents, he is a senator from he is young, he presents, he is a senatorfrom 0hio so he is young, he presents, he is a senator from ohio so that is an important midwest state for republicans as well and has been someone who has been on all of the

morning talk shows talking about the record of president trump and why he should be president again. he is someone who really made the conservatorship. you will remember originally, he criticised donald trump sankey did not hold the solutions for the white working class, now he has moved to become one of donald trump's biggest supporters. a large political transformation. and he has been doggedin transformation. and he has been dogged in his criticism of president biden and has been very critical on aid to ukraine for international listeners so he is an interesting character because of the transformation and it looks because he is also friends with the son, don junior, that it could bejd vance, we will have to see. it is junior, that it could be jd vance, we will have to see.— we will have to see. it is so interesting _ we will have to see. it is so interesting in _ we will have to see. it is so interesting in british - we will have to see. it is so | interesting in british politics seeing how when people say they are friends with jd, seeing how when people say they are friends withjd, almost seeing how when people say they are friends with jd, almost as seeing how when people say they are friends withjd, almost as if they're trying to get in early. bit more international news now because the new foreign secretary, david lammy, is in the middle east. he's been in israel, done various things like meeting front line politicians there, meeting the families

of the hostages who are still being held in gaza by hamas. and so i decided to catch up with our bbc diplomatic correspondent, james landale, to get the latest on that conflict, and also to find out what david lammy can actually achieve or be seen to be trying to achieve there. and becausejustin and the americacast crew were in this studio when i needed to have that conversation with james, i went to our other spare studio to have that conversation with james. before we delve into kind of the daily politics of it, can we just step back and have a bit of a sit—rep about the israel—gaza conflict for people who've not tuned into it for a little while? and i know it's hard to sum up like an entire thing, butjust give us some fragments that will help us get up to date. the fighting continues in gaza. it remains incredibly intense. in recent days, the israelis have launched quite a few strikes in different parts of gaza. particularly they have

been trying to kill, frankly, one of the leaders of hamas, mohammed deif, who you know, they accuse of being behind the october attacks. and it seems that there are reports of quite a lot of civilians dying in those attempted attacks. we still don't know the, um, what has actually happened to that individual, whether or not he has been killed or not. the israelis aren't being 100% about it. so that's gaza. the situation remains terrible. access to humanitarian aid remains very limited. the famousjetty, the pier that the west and the americans stuck on the side to get aid, that is not really working, and that's going to be removed at some point. if not has been removed already. because i'd read that it was sort of operational, butjust not a very like high—volume. look, the problem is that thing was designed for rivers. it wasn't designed for choppy seas and orfor temporary beach landings

or things like that. where you go in, you know... if you know anything about the sea, the sea state varies, and there's a limit to how heavy the sea can get before that thing just starts breaking up. so at various stages, they've had to dismantle bits and nip it round the corner into ashdod port, because that's the irony. there's a perfectly good port just up the road that could perfectly do this. i just wondered not to get to kind of like novelistic about it, but that's just such an emblem ofjust how desperate to help the west were, but how impotent they were, because israel actually controlled all the access. so when there was a humanitarian crisis, it was a crisis that could have been alleviated more if israel had allowed more in. that is absolutely right. and also illustrated by the fact that, i remembertalking to policymakers about this, the origins of the pier as a policy initially was designed to put pressure onto the israelis to allow access in, and then subsequently it became a symbol of western activity so that when the west were putting pressure on the israelis to get more humanitarian aid in the west could say,

"well, look, we're doing this. why can't you do that"? in other words, the pier had a political symbolism as much as it did a practical one. so there's that. and then finally, just very quickly on the northern border, there are still lots of worries that at some point the low level conflict, well, you know, low level, high level conflict between hezbollah in lebanon and the israelis is going to heat up at some point, with fears that the israelis will attack hezbollah properly with force at scale, simply because at the moment there is a buffer zone in northern israel whereabout 80,000 israelis have been removed, and they're currently living in hotels, on friend's bunks and beds and things. and they're pretty unhappy that they can't go home. right. so david lammy is in the region. let's listen to a little clip of what he's been saying, and then you can decode it for us. i hope that we see a hostage deal- emerge in the coming days, and i am using all diplomatic efforts.

indeed, last week with the g7 nations, and particularly- with tony blinken, pressing for that hostage deal. - and i hope, too, that we seal a ceasefire soon and we bring |an alleviation to the suffering | and the intolerable loss of life that we're now seeing also in gaza. so that's labour's position. what is labour's position, really? well, the overt position is that they want an immediate ceasefire, they want to get humanitarian aid in, and they want the hostages released. those are the three things that mr lammy has been repeating at length. but what is interesting about this trip is that, you know, he's doing all the right things, he's ticking the right boxes. he's going to see, you know, he's been to see prime minister netanyahu.

he's been to see the newish prime minister of the palestinian authority, mr mustafa, he's been to see hostage families, some of those links with the uk, others not. he's been to see the israeli president. so he's doing the rounds and seeing, all the people that anybody would expect. what's really interesting about this trip is it's very, very controlled when it comes to media. no media travelling with him. i'm surprised you're not there. you might say that. so let me make a contrast. when david cameron was appointed to the position of foreign secretary last autumn, he took me with him on his trip and we got all access. when, for example, the defence secretary, the new defence secretary, mr healey, went to kyiv immediately after the election. yeah, the day after. he took the political editor of the sun newspaper with him.

and i remember seeing pictures of, um, of the political editor of the sun actually sitting in the meetings. so there's, you know, there's choices about access. in this case, um, mr lammy has chosen not to take anybody with him. uh, and that is, i think, because he knows he's going to get questions that he doesn't yet have answers to. he did, in fairness to him, a pool clip, one of those things where a broadcaster asks questions on behalf of all the other british media, and we get, you know, the answers and they're fed to everybody. and the questions he was asked them were all the questions, actually we want to know which is is the labour government going to ban arms sales to israel? what does it think about international humanitarian law? does it believe that the british weapons that are being sold are potentially in breach of international humanitarian law? because previous... sorry to interrupt because previously the conservative government kind of took a very

legalistic view of that. and they said if our lawyers in the foreign office tell us something has changed, we will think about stopping those arms sales. but the lawyers haven't said anything yet, which provoked the reaction from other people saying, well, the law is one thing, but you also have values and politics. oh yeah. absolutely. any british government, any government could stop arms sales just because it wanted to make a policy decision, but it is based on the law. um, when he was in opposition, mr lammy called for some of that law, legal advice to be published. whether he's as keen now that he's in government remains to be seen. but those are the questions he's going to be asked. also, is the uk going to carry on or start refunding the un agency in gaza? the un agency in gaza, unwra, which it it stopped funding some time ago when there were allegations that of links with hamas and involvement between some people who worked for the agency and the october attacks. and there's also the really interesting question about the international criminal court, which, if you remember, had the the prosecutor for that court has asked the court to issue an arrest warrant for mr netanyahu for alleged war crimes. now, the former government put up

a sort of legal red flag and said, "hang on a minute. is that fair? "are these is israel technically under thejurisdiction "of the icc, this court or not?" it's the sort of legal, but it was seen as very much a delaying tactic because also the question of the international criminal court, because this is the court, if you remember, the chief prosecutor has asked the court to issue an arrest warrant against mr netanyahu, the israeli prime minister, for alleged war crimes. and, also the hamas leaders as well. now, the british government, the former british government led by the conservatives, said they wrote, raised a legal red flag and said, look, hang on a minute, does the icc, this court actually have jurisdiction over the israelis because they don't recognise it, like the americans. the americans don't recognise the courts. so does it still have jurisdiction? um, which was seen by many as a delaying tactic.

so the current new government has to decide whether or not to to take that red flag off the table and allow the icc to carry on. now, i think the reason mr lammy was not keen to be persistently asked about this at every occasion on a trip to to israel is, i think, two reasons. one is because i think it'sjust the early days of a new government. they wanted to get their ducks in a row. i think also that they didn't want to be seen to be rushing into a decision on this that was somehow, perhaps be seen as a response to the election. because if you remember, obviously the election was very difficult for labour when it came to this issue. some mps were not elected because of people voting in favour of.... potentially five seats, that they didn't win. five seats. and i think so, there's a sense within some within the labour party to say, look, we don't want to be seen to be making decisions simply in response to some kind of electoral pressure. they want it to be seen as deliberative, but also i think that as ever, these kind of issues take time to work through. and we've got to remember this

government is only, what, ten—days—old? they're still trying to work out where the coffee machine is and how to work the printer. and so these kind of decisions, i think they'll just want it to. but mr lammy in his pool clip made very clear that he will make these announcements, you know, some in due course shortly to parliament. so i don't think they're that far off. and presumably, though david lammy doesn't know where the printer is or the coffee machine because he's hardly been in his office, because actually he's been travelling, what, 75% of the time since the election. yeah. and that's what foreign secretaries do. they travel. they are there to be outside of the country, batting for britain. and if you think about it, when you're a new foreign secretary and a new government, you've got a lot of people to see engage with, just touch base with, so that when you actually need to start having proper conversations with them, you've already done the, "hi, how are you? nice to meet you." you know, "did i know your father or something?" and just to go back to the israel—gaza situation, i mean, people talk about peace and it seems like a sort of quite ridiculously big word to bandy about.

but in terms of the process for achieving whether it's ceasefire in the short—term or a more permanent kind of long—term answer, where are we at? um, well, certainly no long—term answer. the short—term possibility of a ceasefire and hostage release by the hamas, i mean, those talks continue on and off involving the egyptians, the qataris, the israelis and obviously hamas and the americans. remember they're proxy talks. you know, the israelis and hamas are not talking directly to each other. hence, why it takes so long as well. because it's like multiple layers to go through. and, and actually the, the, the real reason why there's length of time is, is getting information and decisions back from the hamas leadership from within gaza, because for obvious reasons, that's that's hard. and then just where we started the episode, looking at the the situation in the us,

i mean, is biden making any headway with his plan for gaza because he's got his three—fold plan, hasn't he? 0r actually does his domestic troubles and everything else that's happening in america mean that actually this just doesn't get any attention any more? look, i think everybody is aware that there is a particular window before the us election bites hard. but that window is getting smaller and smaller and narrower and narrower as every day goes by. and i think right now, the focus of the biden administration is on survival and how to deal with the, you know, the political pressures against biden from within his own democratic team, but also, you know, the events of the weekend and how that's going to transform things. so i think at the moment, um, as ever, us attention is on itself rather than in the rest of the world. and that's all for this episode of newscast. we've recorded some bonus bits that you can listen to in the podcast edition, which is available on bbc sounds, and we'll be back with another one very soon. bye— bye. newscast from the bbc.

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