hello, i'm caitriona perry. welcome to this special bbc news live coverage of the republican national convention in milwaukee, wisconsin. normally home to the milwaukee basketball team and this we came to the republican national convention. it is like two and in the last our former president donald trump entered the convention hall to loud cheers, as you can see now he warmly greeted his new running mate jd vance. warmly greeted his new running matejd vance. donald trump arrived in time to hear his primary rivals, former us ambassador to the un and governor of south carolina nikki haley in the current

florida governor ron desantis, both addressing the convention and what was meant to be a display of party unity. both spent much of the last year criticising the president for let's hear from both of them now. , , ., a now. president trump asked me to seak now. president trump asked me to speak to _ now. president trump asked me to speak to this _ now. president trump asked me to speak to this convention - now. president trump asked me to speak to this convention in i to speak to this convention in the name of unity. applause. it the name of unity. applause.- the name of unity. applause. ., ., , applause. it was a gracious invitation. — applause. it was a gracious invitation, and _ applause. it was a gracious invitation, and i— applause. it was a gracious invitation, and i was - applause. it was a gracious invitation, and i was happy l applause. it was a gracious| invitation, and i was happy to accept. i will start by making one thing perfectly clear. donald trump has my strong endorsement, period. donald

trum - endorsement, period. donald trump stands _ endorsement, period. donald trump stands in _ endorsement, period. donald trump stands in their- endorsement, period. donald trump stands in their way, i endorsement, period. donald. trump stands in their way, and he stands _ trump stands in their way, and he stands up for america. donald _ he stands up for america. donald trump has been demonised, sued, prosecuted, and he — demonised, sued, prosecuted, and he nearly lost his life. we cannot— and he nearly lost his life. we cannot let _ and he nearly lost his life. we cannot let him down and we cannot— cannot let him down and we cannot let him down and we cannot let america down. joining _ cannot let america down. joining me now is our correspondent from the new york times, covering politics with a focus on elections and voting. innkeeper voting, joining us on bbc news. quite the moment therefore nikki haley and ron desantis having criticising desa ntis having criticising donald desantis having criticising donald trump recently becoming together now, what did you make of what they said? if together now, what did you make of what they said?— of what they said? if it's on what donald _ of what they said? if it's on what donald trump - of what they said? if it's on what donald trump has - of what they said? if it's on i what donald trump has been trying to bring to the early days of this convention, and thatis days of this convention, and that is his message of unity. it is a 2—pronged it is unity, the violence of the experience

of saturday, trying to project a more general election, less bombastic, less combative, while also showing that the republican party, once fractured over his nomination, once fractured over his presidency, is really uniting behind him in a way that we have not seen before. it is a party that has always been marked in recent years i division and different factions, pretravel anti—trump, becoming always an opposition party, a smaller one than elected. as we have seen over the past three days, nearly every facet of the republican party is falling in line behind the former president, in a way that we havejust the former president, in a way that we have just never seen before. that we have 'ust never seen before. ~ ., that we have 'ust never seen before. ~ . , before. we heard some building as a former— before. we heard some building as a former governor _ before. we heard some building as a former governor nikki - as a former governor nikki haley walked out onto the stage he, drowned out by cheering

from other quarters but there was a significant amount of building. was a significant amount of buildinu. .. , building. exactly. in the whole. _ building. exactly. in the whole, especially - building. exactly. in the whole, especially when | building. exactly. in the . whole, especially when she first took the stage, there is still resentment towards those who sought to resist trump. it is a unity behind him to think the lingering ill will is more to challenge him, especially nikki haley who was willing to go the most critical during the republican primary in iowa and new hampshire. there is still lingering resentment there but they are not the people that nikki haley was brought onstage to win over, because those are people who are already with trump. as she said in her speech, she is therefore the swing voters, the moderate voters who have been turned off by the former president i feel alienate alienated or be looking atjoe biden and his struggles as an untenable option. nikki haley was who they felt home with, so those

of the voters she was speaking to with the convention and that is why she is there, and that is why she is there, and that is a unity she is trying to bring versus winning over trump diehards who are still angry at herfor the primary diehards who are still angry at her for the primary election. in her remarks she spoke a lot about foreign policy, the stage of the world underjoe biden, the state of the world that had been under donald trump. given all the praise she was heaving on the former president, is she auditioning to be in his cabinet should he be elected? it is very early to say and tough to imagine that trump would welcome someone who was so critical into his cabinet. he has had hypocritical of him in the past. once comparing trump to hitler, calling him repulsive, and ourjd vance is his running mate, but it was

much further in the past. when it comes to recent history, i think the president, the former president, will be more reticent about inviting that into his cabinet. it could happen, they had a good relationship when she was the ambassador to the united nations, but it is early and you never know until it happens, but it would be a big surprise to see her in a trump 2025 cabinet then say another former governor lake ron desantis. former governor lake ron desantis-_ desantis. while this celebration - desantis. while this celebration of - desantis. while this celebration of all. desantis. while this . celebration of all things republican is going on here in milwaukee, joe biden has resumed campaigning, having caused —— pause for a couple of days following the attempted assassination on donald trump. we saw him in nevada that is here in the clear and away from all of that criticism are just all of that criticism are just a couple of days ago was being heaved upon him by members of his own party? hat heaved upon him by members of his own party?—

his own party? not at all. there has _ his own party? not at all. there has been _ his own party? not at all. | there has been continuing his own party? not at all. - there has been continuing calls and efforts behind the scenes for a lot of democrats who are still very concerned about the impact of the debate in the fallout since, especially as more polls come out showing trump getting a one point lead in the swing state, and it feels to a lot of these democrats at the election is starting to slip away. when you see formerly safe, light blue states like virginia or minnesota, all of a sudden you see battlegrounds. it is creating a lot of anger and anxiety amongst democrats, and is leading to these continuing calls behind the scenes. they also recognise they are running out of time stop the convention is in a few weeks, there will be a visual rollcall, so there is not much they can do publicly, and i think you will start to see public criticism of the president, starting to

wane as they see their chances of beating trump but behind—the—scenes they will not stop. behind-the-scenes they will not sto -. ~ behind-the-scenes they will not sto. ~ ., . behind-the-scenes they will not sto. ~ . . ., , stop. we will watch to see if they move _ stop. we will watch to see if they move from _ stop. we will watch to see if they move from behind - stop. we will watch to see if they move from behind the l they move from behind the scenes throughout in the public once again. nick, new york times reporter covering us apologies, thank you for joining us on bbc news. i am joined now in milwaukee by former democratic congresswoman stephanie murphy and also mark lotter, former special assistant to president donald trump and former press secretary to vice president mike pence. thank you for being with us here. just what we heard there from ron desantis and nikki haley most recently, what did you make of their speeches was make to their unity trying this convention convention has been about so far? i convention has been about so far? ~ , �* . , far? i think they didn't was necessary _ far? i think they didn't was necessary to _ far? i think they didn't was necessary to do _ far? i think they didn't was necessary to do this - far? i think they didn't was necessary to do this for - necessary to do this for primaries regardless of the party, i think you would agree

with me, are betterfamily affairs, they leave scars are sometimes but once a primary is over, whetherfor sometimes but once a primary is over, whether for congress, governor, president of the united states, the only to come together anew not because generally speaking we talk about the same thing, maybe 90 5% we disagree about two or 3%, so this was important to do. it is also important to do for the future of nikki haley and maybe ron desantis want to play in the republican party moving forward. both are young and still have a career ahead of them, the question will be in this room, in this arena, to move forward, whether a or national level. is move forward, whether a or national level.— national level. is the realisation _ national level. is the realisation the - national level. is the - realisation the republican party is absolutely the party of donald trump but that there no room for the never trump is as they were once called? the? as they were once called? they will have to _ as they were once called? they will have to make _ as they were once called? they will have to make that - as they were once called? tie: will have to make that decision themselves. looking at the policy, they are not that different than what ronald reagan argued for. the populist movement is more of a demand

for answers on a demand for action, notjust talk. the never trump will have to remember and think about what they want to do for the future, a lot of them are consultants, it is about contracts for them, not about the policies, the fact we are not welcome in getting aid to be consultants in this current republican party. in this current republican pa _ ,, , ., in this current republican pa . ,, , . . in this current republican pa , ,, , . . party. stephanie, what did you make of what _ party. stephanie, what did you make of what nikki _ party. stephanie, what did you make of what nikki haley - party. stephanie, what did youj make of what nikki haley anna ron desantis said? the primary process is better, perhaps not easy for them to do what they did they? easy for them to do what they did the ? ~ ., easy for them to do what they did the ?~ . .,, easy for them to do what they didthe ?~ . ._ did they? what was really interesting _ did they? what was really interesting is _ did they? what was really interesting is what - did they? what was really interesting is what nikki l did they? what was really - interesting is what nikki haley said. — interesting is what nikki haley said. she _ interesting is what nikki haley said, she said we do not agree all the — said, she said we do not agree all the time but we agree broadly. she basically created a permission structure for the third. — a permission structure for the third. the _ a permission structure for the third, the court of the people who— third, the court of the people who were _ third, the court of the people who were voting for her in those _ who were voting for her in those primaries, she put up strong — those primaries, she put up strong numbers in those primaries, even after she had shut— primaries, even after she had shut down— primaries, even after she had shutdown her campaign. people were _ shut down her campaign. people were still— shutdown her campaign. people were still voting for her. by getting _ were still voting for her. by getting up on the stage and

seeing _ getting up on the stage and seeing hey, we do not agree on everything all the time but this— everything all the time but this is— everything all the time but this is the person we want to sopport_ this is the person we want to support now, she really gave permission for all of those people _ permission for all of those people to support donald trump. the arena — people to support donald trump. the arena behind us has electrified again with what is going on. donald trump andjd vance, just keeping an eye on what is going on unless we are missing something. we're sitting literally underneath there. in terms of setting policies here at the convention at this week, how important is that you have hold of the new cycle here which has been owned ljy cycle here which has been owned by the democrats for the last week as they were dripping moves againstjoe biden. i assure you, they wish moves againstjoe biden. t assure you, they wish they were that the case.— that the case. donald trump -la ed a that the case. donald trump played a strategy _ that the case. donald trump played a strategy here - that the case. donald trump played a strategy here in - that the case. donald trump i played a strategy here in terms of last week, the attempted assassination changed everything but other voters to be won over by what they see here this week?—

here this week? one of the thins here this week? one of the things we _ here this week? one of the things we missed _ here this week? one of the - things we missed understandably about the current election, where we are, wasjoe biden was losing before the debate, losing before the debate, losing on the policies, the poll, the battlegrounds, which is why they had to make that historic and unprecedented call for an early debate, it backfired on me things worse. the whether the economy on immigration and crime and foreign policy, the other big things of the convention. last night was the economy and tonight is border security and crime and is national security. it is resonating with these people who are really concerned about the direction of our country in those areas, so they hit the right themes and tones. it is notjust aboutjoe biden and whether he is capable for the next four years, it is we didn't like where we are going all that happens. this is again more of a permission structure to say maybe you voted for him in 2020, meeting joe biden but i do not like what we have got going right now, it is time to

come back. going right now, it is time to come back-— going right now, it is time to come back. the challenge for the democrats, _ come back. the challenge for the democrats, to _ come back. the challenge for the democrats, to win - come back. the challenge for| the democrats, to win control of that messaging? it is the democrats, to win control of that messaging?— the democrats, to win control of that messaging? it is a huge challenae of that messaging? it is a huge challenge i— of that messaging? it is a huge challenge i think _ of that messaging? it is a huge challenge i think that _ of that messaging? it is a huge challenge i think that is - of that messaging? it is a huge challenge i think that is why . challenge i think that is why you see _ challenge i think that is why you see so much against in the democratic party. there was this— democratic party. there was this hand _ democratic party. there was this hand wringing and not actually— this hand wringing and not actually anything to effectually change, and i think in many— effectually change, and i think in many ways because of no change _ in many ways because of no change happening, you are losihg _ change happening, you are losing more voters in the process— losing more voters in the process because they have seen and have — process because they have seen and have expressed enrolling in otherwise — and have expressed enrolling in otherwise they are not confident in this candidate, and — confident in this candidate, and they— confident in this candidate, and they do not live within this— and they do not live within this washington bubble that we do. this washington bubble that we do they— this washington bubble that we do. they cannot understand why the democratic party is not doing — the democratic party is not doing something about this. i think— doing something about this. i think it — doing something about this. i think it is _ doing something about this. i think it is a real challenge, and — think it is a real challenge, and he _ think it is a real challenge, and he was behind before the debate, — and he was behind before the debate, and he is falling further— debate, and he is falling further behind in the democratic party needs to compress the case on those issues — compress the case on those issues that are driving this

campaign. it is unclear if he can— campaign. it is unclear if he can do— campaign. it is unclear if he can do that.— can do that. still, you are think that — can do that. still, you are think that is _ can do that. still, you are think that is the. .. - can do that. still, you are thinkthat is the... i- can do that. still, you are think that is the. .. i think three quarters _ think that is the. .. i think three quarters of- thinkthat is the... ithinkl three quarters of american people _ three quarters of american people believe that. the party that ignores the people does it at their— that ignores the people does it at their own political peril. we heard from nick a few moments ago they were the comments that pressure is still swelling privately amongst the democratic party. are they waiting for a moment after an attempted assassination, valley convention is under way, for it to go to the public again? thea;r to go to the public again? they are running _ to go to the public again? they are running out _ to go to the public again? they are running out of— to go to the public again? they are running out of time, - are running out of time, especially since the joe biden campaign is moving up the nomination process with a virtual— nomination process with a virtual nomination, so you may have _ virtual nomination, so you may have heard _ virtual nomination, so you may have heard there is a letter that — have heard there is a letter that is— have heard there is a letter that is gathering momentum, basically— that is gathering momentum, basically begging pdms the do not do — basically begging pdms the do not do this early nomination process, _ not do this early nomination process, you said that we would have _ process, you said that we would have a _ process, you said that we would have a chance at the convention to contest — have a chance at the convention to contest this, if you do this

nomination, it is the democratic party behaving in the most undemocratic way. just exlain the most undemocratic way. just explain the _ the most undemocratic way. just explain the early process was then moved to do eventually before the convention in late august to do it at the beginning of august, which initially was because of a rule initially was because of a rule in ohio but that avaya has weather, is not issue anymore? ohio has dealt with that but the democratic argument is that we cannot— the democratic argument is that we cannot leave anything to chance _ we cannot leave anything to chance because you cannot trust the ohio — chance because you cannot trust the ohio republicans to stay true — the ohio republicans to stay true to— the ohio republicans to stay true to their word so they are moving — true to their word so they are moving forward. i think people from _ moving forward. i think people from the — moving forward. i think people from the outside look at it and they— from the outside look at it and they see — from the outside look at it and they see it as a trans parent way— they see it as a trans parent way to— they see it as a trans parent way to accelerate and compress the timeline to put down any internal— the timeline to put down any internal rebellion within the democrat party. it is an ugly way— democrat party. it is an ugly way to— democrat party. it is an ugly way to get the nomination. the tift that way to get the nomination. the gift that keeps _ way to get the nomination. tue: gift that keeps on way to get the nomination. tu9 gift that keeps on giving for republicans.—

gift that keeps on giving for reublicans. :, �* republicans. yeah. but we need two healthy _ republicans. yeah. but we need two healthy parties _ republicans. yeah. but we need two healthy parties to _ republicans. yeah. but we need two healthy parties to debate i two healthy parties to debate issues and have discussions. i never want to see a president of the united states in a state of, i won't say it is incapacitation, diminished is a better word. that is not what the world needs it is not what our country needs. i honestly do not think it will make a difference whose name is on the ballot right now for them because of the policy issues and i was on another network the other day and they asked me about vice president harris and i well, if i was a consultant i know i never will be but i would tell her to not take the l. if you stay off the ballot and letjoe biden continue to be the nominee and lose which is what pulse are just right now, you are not going to be blamed. if they switch you out in a short time period and you still lose,... . in a short time period and you still lose,...— still lose,... . what if joe

biden were _ still lose,... . what if joe biden were to _ still lose,... . what if joe biden were to step - still lose,... . what if joe biden were to step down | still lose, . .. . what if joe - biden were to step down and, lowered to become president before polling day? j lowered to become president before polling day?— before polling day? i don't know the _ before polling day? i don't know the presidents... - before polling day? i don't| know the presidents... but before polling day? i don't - know the presidents. .. but that know the presidents... but that would be a historic thing. the second president ever in history to step down voluntarily. joe biden has been a loyal dedicated public servant who i mostly disagree with but i do not see he would take that step of also stepping down from the presidency. that is something that has never been done under these circumstances before. i do not see it happening. jt is circumstances before. i do not see it happening.— see it happening. it is hard to imatine see it happening. it is hard to imagine that _ see it happening. it is hard to imagine that it _ see it happening. it is hard to imagine that it happens. - see it happening. it is hard to imagine that it happens. i'vel imagine that it happens. i've been — imagine that it happens. i've been through a few house leadership struggles and there are a _ leadership struggles and there are a couple of rules that hold true _ are a couple of rules that hold true within politics and one is that— true within politics and one is that nobody gives up our. it must — that nobody gives up our. it must be _ that nobody gives up our. it must be taken. famously nancy pelosi _ must be taken. famously nancy pelosi said that. and nobody is stepping — pelosi said that. and nobody is stepping up to take it and that is rule — stepping up to take it and that is rule number two, you cannot run more _ is rule number two, you cannot run no—one against someone and

nobody— run no—one against someone and nobody has — run no—one against someone and nobody has had the courage or desire — nobody has had the courage or desire to — nobody has had the courage or desire to step into this race this— desire to step into this race this cycle. i have a hard time believing _ this cycle. i have a hard time believing that somebody will have — believing that somebody will have the courage to do that and risk their— have the courage to do that and risk their 1—shot this cycle. the — risk their 1—shot this cycle. the third _ risk their 1—shot this cycle. the third thing is that it does not matter how many defections the democratic party has, there is no _ the democratic party has, there is no threshold by which if they— is no threshold by which if they reach the threshold of defections biden steps aside. he has— defections biden steps aside. he has the delegates he has and that is— he has the delegates he has and that is the difference between house — that is the difference between house leadership race in the presidential. when it was mccarthy or policy trying to secure _ mccarthy or policy trying to secure the race they have to limit — secure the race they have to limit their— secure the race they have to limit their defections to a certain— limit their defections to a certain number. there is no such— certain number. there is no such threshold here. he could lose _ such threshold here. he could lose the — such threshold here. he could lose the entire democratic party _ lose the entire democratic party and still go forward as the presidential nomination. bringing it back to vice presidents, you are the press secretary for mike hands when he was vice president. what is your view onjd vance is the peak? j your view on jd vance is the eak? :, your view on jd vance is the eak? ., , . ~

peak? i love the pic. and nontraditional _ peak? i love the pic. and nontraditional weight - peak? i love the pic. and - nontraditional weight reasons why. the fact that he was critical of the president in 2015, 2016 makes him valuable. he can go into suburban swing districts in pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin and say i was one of you, i had concerns, i voiced my opposition but then when we compare the two men's records and when we look at the policy and we look at their vision for the future, i came on over. so come on and join me, the water is fine. he can really do that. i also think being a 39—year—old almost 40—year—old, joe biden promised to be the bridge to the next generation and donald trump just prove that. that he isn't bridge to the next generation which should be concerning to the democratic party as young people are starting to move

away and support republicans. the polling does support what he is saying, that young people are shifting in that direction and that is deeply concerning. i found and that is deeply concerning. ifound it and that is deeply concerning. i found it really interesting that in this convention the campaign has been very disciplined and they have gone straight after the democratic next, going after minority communities, going after labour, going after young people with a narrative of why it is ok to vote for them. that should be deeply concerning to any democrat. but they have a month to put together the counter message and let's hope they do so. in terms of what you were saying there, we heard from the speech earlier from vivek ramaswamy who went through every possible category of voters, particularly those who would traditionally be democratic voters, he mentioned african—americans and millennial�*s, he mentioned

generation see, i don't know they get up too often on the convention stage but it feels like republicans are trying to tickle the boxes and win the margins. tickle the boxes and win the mar: ins. ~ , :, tickle the boxes and win the mar: ins. ~ , . ., tickle the boxes and win the martins. ~ , . ., , . margins. we started to see that in 2020 prior— margins. we started to see that in 2020 prior to _ margins. we started to see that in 2020 prior to the _ margins. we started to see that in 2020 prior to the pandemic. l in 2020 prior to the pandemic. we started to see these kinds of ships taking place and the pandemic upended that election in how we see american and global life. what we see right now is being scaled and i think it is because of the policy issue and those economic issues, the immigration, the war issue that it is quickening this transition that we started to see. it will be interesting to see. it will be interesting to see. it will be interesting to see how the democrats respond because it does not take much of a shift. we saw in the polling ten, 11 point shifts from where things were injuly of 2016 and 2020, they were very similar. hillary clinton and joe biden had seven, eight, nine point leads in the demographics in the

battleground states. it is now donald trump by three points. that is a 10—12 point shift, a massive shift in politics and if you can seal that deal with four months to go... . democrats should be concerned that this election does reflect the 2016 election, my first time on the ballot and in my district which was a swing district, a battleground for american elections, in my swing district 10,000 people showed up district 10,000 people showed up at the polls and skipped the top of the ticket and voted at the congressional race and down. ' i: i: i: i: the congressional race and down, ':: i: i: i: ., the congressional race and down. ':: i: i: i: ., , the congressional race and down. ijijij ., , ., down. 10,000 more people voted in the congressional— down. 10,000 more people voted in the congressional race, - down. 10,000 more people voted in the congressional race, my - in the congressional race, my congressional race than they did in— congressional race than they did in the presidential. if you have — did in the presidential. if you have that _ did in the presidential. if you have that situation, that will be devastating for democrats. that _ be devastating for democrats. that is — be devastating for democrats. that is a — be devastating for democrats. that is a challenge i think for both parties again going back to what we can bank on but the

concept of people you don't like either and particularly in a battleground state they seem to be the ones who everybody is trying to win over at this point. that is where we get into the issue of the tragedy over the weekend but also the debate performance. many people i think, those were not the dc bubble they vote for strength. they want to see a strong american leader and we have had strong, they project strength. great presidents in the office and it is a huge comparison. clinton was famous for saying strong — clinton was famous for saying strong and wrong beats we can write every day. and he had a good — write every day. and he had a good pulse on the american electorate.— good pulse on the american electorate. ~ . �* , electorate. what we're seeing here is that — electorate. what we're seeing here is that what _ electorate. what we're seeing here is that what we're - electorate. what we're seeing j here is that what we're seeing here? , :, here is that what we're seeing here? , . ., here? there is an element of that, certainly. _ here? there is an element of that, certainly. and - here? there is an element of that, certainly. and the - here? there is an element of. that, certainly. and the bigger concern i think, _ that, certainly. and the bigger concern i think, those - that, certainly. and the bigger concern i think, those double l concern i think, those double haters who may not be able to

make a decision, if they are mostly democratic voters that cannot bring themselves to vote for donald trump and they skip that ticket, that is devastating down the ballot because i'd do not know if they will come out and vote in the congressional race. they may just not vote.— just not vote. there are key issues in — just not vote. there are key issues in some _ just not vote. there are key issues in some states - just not vote. there are key issues in some states that i just not vote. there are key i issues in some states that the democratic party are hoping will get people. reproductive ri t hts will will get people. reproductive rights will be _ will get people. reproductive rights will be a _ will get people. reproductive rights will be a huge - will get people. reproductive rights will be a huge issue. . rights will be a huge issue. and — rights will be a huge issue. and there are a lot of single issue — and there are a lot of single issue voters around that. i think— issue voters around that. i think the _ issue voters around that. i think the democrats are going to try— think the democrats are going to try and repeat the 2022 performance but i think all the polling — performance but i think all the polling sort of underestimates what _ polling sort of underestimates what trump being on the ticket does _ what trump being on the ticket does and — what trump being on the ticket does and that is true in 2016 as well— does and that is true in 2016 as well as _ does and that is true in 2016 as well as in 2020. 2020 the democratic party lost 13 house seats — democratic party lost 13 house seats because donald trump was on the _ seats because donald trump was on the ballot and those with a frontline _ on the ballot and those with a frontline seats. i on the ballot and those with a frontline seats.— frontline seats. i will stop ou frontline seats. i will stop

you there _ frontline seats. i will stop you there because - frontline seats. i will stop you there because the - frontline seats. i will stop - you there because the governor of arkansas, sarah huckabee sanders and the former press secretary for donald trump is on the stage. let's listen to her. �* ., , . her. before i get started i want to — her. before i get started i want to say _ her. before i get started i want to say that - her. before i get started i want to say that i - her. before i get started i want to say that i have i her. before i get started i- want to say that i have always been proud to stand with president trump. but never have i been more proud than to stand with him right now tonight. not even an assassin's bullet could stop him. god almighty intervened because america is one nation under god and he is

certainly not finished with president trump. and our country is betterfor president trump. and our country is better for it. i am here tonight as america's youngest governor, the first... the 1st woman to lead the great state of arkansas. and most importantly a mom to three amazing kids. when i was

president trump's white house press secretary i got the chance to take my four—year—old son to bring your kid to work day. much likejill now drags joe to bring your husband to work day. and while i was briefing the president on the upcoming event in the oval office all of the kids who were attending that day gathered in the rose garden to get ready to meet him. and we were walking out onto that beautiful perfect lawn and i saw from the corner of my eye that my son was running full speed directly at the president of the united

states. being the gracious person he is, president trump bent down to give him a big hug. and right in front of everyone hark sidestepped the president. completely ignoring him in front of everyone and ran straight into my arms. for my four—year—old son, the most powerful man in the world had nothing on his mom. but because he is the amazing man he is, president trump did not mind at all. after all, president trump did not mind at all. afterall, he president trump did not mind at all. after all, he is a dad to five unbelievable kids and a grandfather to two. and while

that story is a special memory for my family it is an even greater reminder why i support president trump, not for me, not for him but for my kids and yours. under president trump, america was safer. the world was safer and it felt like the next generation would have a chance at the american dream. president trump did the job that, la won't —— that come along won't and joe biden can't. —— kamala won't. when we are honest, every american knows that we were so much better off under president

trump. tonight i don't want to just speak about president from's successful policies.— successful policies. while there were _ successful policies. while there were many. - successful policies. while there were many. i- successful policies. while there were many. i wantl successful policies. while i there were many. i want to talk about the man that i know. when the president hired me i was the president hired me i was the first mum and only the third woman to ever serve as the white house press secretary. applause and in that role, and you would relent as attacks from the left. j relent as attacks from the left. :, , , relent as attacks from the left. . , , . , . , left. i was insulted as a guest at the white _ left. i was insulted as a guest at the white house _ at the white house correspondent �*s dinner. my family was denied service and kicked out of a restaurant. booing. kicked out of a restaurant. iming-— kicked out of a restaurant. booing. ~ ., ., , booing. and a parent at my three-year-old _ booing. and a parent at my

three-year-old son's - booing. and a parent at my i three-year-old son's preschool three—year—old son's preschool spit on my car. and in those moments, it was president trump who defended me. and when an msnbc host the set i was unfit to be a mother, and another msnbc host said i was file, not even human and that i should be choked, msnbc again did nothing. but our president pulled me aside, looked me in the eye and said, "sarah, you are smart, you are beautiful, you are tough and they attack you are tough and they attack you because you are good at yourjob. never let them stop fighting." applause _ . thank you, mr president

trump- — . thank you, mr president trump. thank— . thank you, mr president trump. thank you. i trump. thank you. applause that is the donald trump that i know. and that is the donaldj trump i will always respect. the left doesn't care about empowering women. biden and harris can't even tell you what a woman is. they only care about empowering themselves. but we have a president who believes in empowering every american and that our country is worth fighting for. applause for the last four years, republican governors have been leading the fight and doing

whatjoe biden refuses to do. we've the national guard to the border, we've cracked down on crime and drugs, we cut taxes to give hard—working americans a breakfrom biden—flation. and the universal school choice across the country. applause _ . donald trump was the very first president _ . donald trump was the very first president in _ . donald trump was the very first president in my - . donald trump was the very first president in my lifetime to take a hard line against china, and i'm proud to be the first and only governor in the country to kick communist china of ourfarmland and country to kick communist china of our farmland and out of my state. :, state. cheering and applause - cheering and applause.

president trump is a leader, and he is the leader our country needs, and if ever there was a doubt, earlier this week, we sawjust out of, resilient, courageous and daring this man is, and we can't get him back in the white house fast enough.— can't get him back in the white house fast enough. cheering and applause. trump, trump, trump! chanting. ladies and gentlemen, we are not called to stand still in

the face of grave danger. you and i were put on this earth at and i were put on this earth at a moment in time to charge boldly ahead. we cannot know what the future holds, we know damn sure who holds the future in his hands.— in his hands. cheering and applause _ god spared president trump from that assassin because god is not finished with him yet. cheering and applause. and he most certainly — cheering and applause. and he most certainly is _ cheering and applause. and he most certainly is not _ cheering and applause. and he most certainly is not finished i most certainly is not finished with america yet either. cheering and applause. with god as our guide and president from back in the white house, we will show the world that americans a place

where freedom rains and liberty will never die. cheering and applause. ladies and gentlemen... chanting.— ladies and gentlemen... chanting. ,,: ,,: x tonight, let us not leave here just excited about a great few days, but let us leave here energised and committed to making sure that we protect our freedom and we have the ability to pass it onto the next generation, because america is the greatest country that the world has ever known, and our kids and our grandkids deserve to enjoy it the way each of us

did, and we will with president trump back in the white house. thank you so much. god bless the great state of arkansas and the great state of arkansas and the united states of america. thank you very much. cheering and applause. _ thank you very much. cheering and applause. the _ thank you very much. cheering and applause. the governor. thank you very much. cheering and applause. the governor of arkansas sarah huckabee sanders there addressing the republican national convention in milwaukee in wisconsin. she is one of the headliner speakers here on night two, it is about making america safe again. i am joined now by diana mueller, the founder of female criminal rights. thank you forjoining us on bbc not use. she was thinking a lot about why women like donald trump, speaking about freedoms and someone... your organisation, what is it about donald trump that you like? that you see in him?

well, you may not know, but donald trump hasn't always been great honour issue. when he first got into office the first time, he did the band which we didn't like. i don't agree with him 100% of the time but he has a constitutional understanding, and he did do a lot of good things for the second amendment. during covid, he called essential the gun store so we were allowed to stay open, and thejudges so we were allowed to stay open, and the judges that gave us the decision was a big deal for gun rights advocates. he wasn't perfect by any means and i am not in love with the man. i am not in love with the man. ijust i am not in love with the man. i just feel his i am not in love with the man. ijust feel his policies are the best for america. i just feel his policies are the best for america. speaking about gun _ the best for america. speaking about gun rights, _ the best for america. speaking about gun rights, you - the best for america. speaking about gun rights, you are i the best for america. speaking about gun rights, you are a i about gun rights, you are a professional shooter, you are a very skilled at your sport if you want to call it that, and

it is your lifestyle, your profession as well. in this country, though, more children die from gun violence and by any other disease. is it time for the laws to change? j any other disease. is it time for the laws to change? i would encourage _ for the laws to change? i would encourage you _ for the laws to change? i would encourage you to _ for the laws to change? i would encourage you to look - for the laws to change? i would encourage you to look at i for the laws to change? i would encourage you to look at those | encourage you to look at those numbers because that statistic includes 18 and 19 —year—olds. anywhere else, 18 and 19 —year—olds are considered adults. it is a manipulation of statistics and it is not true. young people dying by gunfire...— young people dying by gunfire... young people dying by tunfire... , . ., ., gunfire... there is a lot of tun gunfire... there is a lot of gun violence _ gunfire... there is a lot of gun violence in _ gunfire... there is a lot of gun violence in chicago, i gun violence in chicago, chicago lost flat 100 people last weekend and nobody is really addressing that. disarming the good citizens of america do not make them safer. it actually makes it more dangerous. 96% of all mass public shootings happen in gun free zones. they are not only

ineffective but they are dangerous.— ineffective but they are dangerous. ineffective but they are danterous. :, ~ dangerous. someone like you he was skilled _ dangerous. someone like you he was skilled and _ dangerous. someone like you he was skilled and trained, - was skilled and trained, everyone who has access to a gun falls into that category, though. gun falls into that category, thouth. :, . ., �* gun falls into that category, thouth. :, . ~ ., though. correct. i don't know if ou though. correct. i don't know if you know. _ though. correct. i don't know if you know, but _ though. correct. i don't know if you know, but i _ though. correct. i don't know if you know, but i was i though. correct. i don't know if you know, but i was a i though. correct. i don't know if you know, but i was a 22 i if you know, but i was a 22 year police officer, and i went to people who didn't have guns that call people who did have guns, so i know how important it is to be your own first responder, so that is part of the reason why i choose to arm myself. now, from a perspective of why the second amendment was written, i think it was not for hunting, it was to keep a tyrannical government in check. and when we are here, all the speeches we have heard from the stage tonight, many of them have spoken about how america is unsafe. you were a police officer for 22 years in tulsa. you feel america has become less safe?—

less safe? absolutely, i believe _ less safe? absolutely, i believe the _ less safe? absolutely, i believe the policies i less safe? absolutely, i believe the policies in l less safe? absolutely, i. believe the policies in place in some of these major cities are dangerous. the gun free zones are the last prosecution, it is very sad because we do not have to live like this. we could follow law and order, and we could keep bad people away, but the liberal policies under the biden administration in my opinion have really exacerbated the crime, letting people in across the border, not prosecuting people, holding people accountable. people say that and understand that and they are becoming more bold. what is the solution do you think? j what is the solution do you think? ~' what is the solution do you think? ~ :, , ., , :, think? i think that you start with closing _ think? i think that you start with closing the _ think? i think that you start with closing the border i think? i think that you start with closing the border and | think? i think that you start| with closing the border and i think you start with prosecuting, getting these liberal attorney general is and attorneys, district attorneys i'm trying to say, out of office, and people hold people accountable for breaking the law. that is where you start.

from a gun rights advocacy perspective, i would like to see firearms education back in schools. when i grew up, you hear it all the time, who had guns and didn't lock the doors. what you mean by firearms education in schools? j what you mean by firearms education in schools? i believe that even _ education in schools? i believe that even if— education in schools? i believe that even if you _ education in schools? i believe that even if you don't - education in schools? i believe that even if you don't touch i education in schools? i believe that even if you don't touch a i that even if you don't touch a firearm, that every child should know how to safely be around or approach a firearm. the four rules should be taught handsdown to every kid, every person on the face of the earth. , :, person on the face of the earth. ,, ~ person on the face of the earth. i. ~ . ., earth. do you think that would contribute _ earth. do you think that would contribute to _ earth. do you think that would contribute to safety, _ earth. do you think that would contribute to safety, though? | contribute to safety, though? we were discussing earlier hear about how not all schools are equal, not all level levels of education or will.— education or will. no, i absolutely _ education or will. no, i absolutely think- education or will. no, i absolutely think it i education or will. no, i i absolutely think it would education or will. no, i - absolutely think it would make absolutely think it would make a difference, and i believe it was colorado that in a study from the time they implemented education in colorado, and any kind of accidental injury with a firearm was reduced

substantially.- a firearm was reduced substantially. a firearm was reduced substantiall . . ,, ., substantially. thank you for “oinint substantially. thank you for joining us- _ substantially. thank you for joining us. good _ substantially. thank you for joining us. good to - substantially. thank you for joining us. good to hear- substantially. thank you for. joining us. good to hear your thoughts, dianna muller, founder of, thank you for joining us on bbc news. thank ou for joining us on bbc news. thank you for having _ joining us on bbc news. thank you for having me. _ joining us on bbc news. thank you for having me. i _ joining us on bbc news. thank you for having me. i am i joining us on bbc news. thank you for having me. i am joined j you for having me. i am “oined here by former i you for having me. i am joined here by former democratic i here by former democratic ombudsman stephanie murphy who is with us here. you have been listening to all of the speeches from the podium there, sarah huckabee sanders given quite an impassioned and rousing speech, and she sought to humanise donald trump, telling stories about his interactions with her children. she was his spokesperson during his first presidency and so she is very good at responding to and connecting, and i thought that she did a really good job trying to humanise him and speak to suburban mums. another story she told resonated. an story she told resonated. an mums are — story she told resonated. an mums are one of the demographics that the democrats

have also always counted on the republicans are trying to chase i suppose at this point, and they are having some success there. iiii they are having some success there. , ., .. there. if you might recall in 2020 it was _ there. if you might recall in 2020 it was clear _ there. if you might recall in 2020 it was clear candidate j 2020 it was clear candidate trump that he was losing these women and he came out and said, "why don't you like me? why won't you support me?" and that was a weakness within his campaign in 2020, and it was a part of, when you have a very close races, part of the narrow margin. they are being very strategic at this convention, speaking to very specific groups, and taking a strategic approach in the campaign. ka nsas we kansas we were speaking to diana muller a campaignerfor diana muller a campaigner for gun diana muller a campaignerfor gun rights, her organisation women for gun rights and we have heard about how unsafe republicans think america's. what she was saying there are,

what did you think of that, calling for gun education at schools? j calling for gun education at schools? ., calling for gun education at schools?— calling for gun education at schools? ., ._ , schools? i thought the way she s . lit schools? i thought the way she slit he schools? i thought the way she split he is _ schools? i thought the way she split he is with _ schools? i thought the way she split he is with you _ schools? i thought the way she split he is with you regarding i split he is with you regarding the data with you was a little ingenuous, whether you are talking about 18, 19 —year—olds or people under the age of 20, that are still young people in america dying because of our gun laws. the other thing i would say about what she said as it is untrue — if you look at the crime rates, they are not any higher, they are low in some places, so she is talking to a perception not to where the data is, so it is good to see people who are advocates pick and choose the data supports the narrative... but if we talk _ supports the narrative... but if we talk about _ supports the narrative... but if we talk about the substance of what she believes that americans should have access to guns and there should be —— not be restrictions against them that comes against the democratic position that is why we have seen a failure to enact any kind of gun patrol and

legislation in this country,... i'm just told marco rubio is coming to the stage. we will interrupt you there and we will have a listen to what he has to say. cheering and applause. marco! marco!— say. cheering and applause. marco! marco! don't say parolo! thank you. — marco! marco! don't say parolo! thank you, thank— marco! marco! don't say parolo! thank you, thank you. _ marco! marco! don't say parolo! thank you, thank you. thank i thank you, thank you. thank you. the last few days remind us, that the life of every living thing, and the breadth of all mankind, as in the hands of all mankind, as in the hands of god. , ~ , ~ ~ ,, of god. cheering and applause. we were brought _ of god. cheering and applause. we were brought to _ of god. cheering and applause. we were brought to the _ we were brought to the precipice of the abyss and by the hand of god, reminded of

what truly matters in our lives and in our country. this thing we do, politics, it matters, it is not unimportant, but it is our people, who must always matter the most in everything we do. , ~ , matter the most in everything we do. , : , : : ,, we do. cheering and applause. b titvin we do. cheering and applause. by giving voice — we do. cheering and applause. by giving voice to _ we do. cheering and applause. by giving voice to everyday - by giving voice to everyday americans, president trump has notjust transformed our party, he has inspired a movement. cheering and applause. fit, cheering and applause. movement, a movement of the people who grow our food. and drive our trucks. the people who make our cars and build our homes. the people whose taxes fund our government. and whose children fight our wars.

americans like corey, he was the former fire chief and a loving husband, he was described as the best father a girl could ever ask for. as a man of god, who loved jesus fiercely, and looked after members of his church. corey was one of the millions of everyday americans who make our country great. he was not rich, he was not famous, and the only reason why we know his name and story now, is because last saturday, he shielded his wife and daughterfrom an saturday, he shielded his wife and daughter from an assassin , s and daughter from an assassin �*s bullet and lost his life the way he lived it, a hero. cheering and applause.

prolonged cheering and applause. for prolonged cheering and appl“se-— applause. for those still wondering _ applause. for those still wondering in _ applause. for those still wondering in the - applause. for those still wondering in the press i applause. for those still. wondering in the press and applause. for those still- wondering in the press and many watching at home, these are the americans who wear the red hats, and wait for hours under a blazing sun to hear donald trump speak. and what they want, what they asked for, it is not hateful or extreme, what they want is good jobs and lower prices. they want borders that are secure and for those who come here to do so legally. they want to be safe from criminals and from terrorists. and they want for our leaders to care more about our problems

here at home, then about the problems of other countries far away. problems of other countries far awa . , ~ , problems of other countries far awa. , : m : ,, away. cheering and applause. there is absolutely _ away. cheering and applause. there is absolutely nothing i there is absolutely nothing dangerous or anything divisive about putting americans first. cheering and applause. those who are offended _ cheering and applause. those who are offended anyone - cheering and applause. those who are offended anyone who i cheering and applause. those who are offended anyone who is i who are offended anyone who is offended about putting america first has forgotten what america is and what america needs. america is not the colour of our skin or our

ethnicity. americans are people diverse as humanity itself. but out of many, we are one because as the life story of our next vice presidentjd vance remind us, we are all descendants of ordinary people who achieved extraordinary things. cheering and applause. _ extraordinary things. cheering and applause. who _ extraordinary things. cheering and applause. who do - extraordinary things. cheering and applause. who do we - extraordinary things. cheering i and applause. who do we come from? we come _ and applause. who do we come from? we come from _ and applause. who do we come from? we come from pioneers i and applause. who do we come | from? we come from pioneers who ventured west to chase their dreams. and slaves who overcame bondage to claim the right to the promise of america. we come from exiles who fled tyranny in search of freedom. and of immigrants who left behind all they had and knew, because they could not be or achieve god �*s purpose for their life, and the nation of their birth. that, as an american.—

an american. cheering and applause _ an american. cheering and applause. and _ an american. cheering and applause. and putting - an american. cheering and - applause. and putting americans first, must applause. and putting americans first. must be _ applause. and putting americans first, must be what _ applause. and putting americans first, must be what this _ first, must be what this election is about. when president trump was in the white house, americans had more money, and lower prices. our borders were secure and our laws were enforced. iran was broke the taliban stop killing americans and vladimir putin did not invade anyone! cheering and applause. _ did not invade anyone! cheering and applause. under _ did not invade anyone! cheering and applause. under joe - did not invade anyone! cheering| and applause. underjoe biden, hith trices and applause. underjoe biden, high prices devour— and applause. underjoe biden, high prices devour paychecks, i high prices devour paychecks, criminals and drugs are allowed to flood into our country and terrorise our people. and iran has money to support terrorists, the taliban humiliated us in afghanistan,

and not one but two major wars have broken out. my fellow americans, the only way to make americans, the only way to make america healthy and safe and strong again, is to make donald j trump our president, again! cheering and applause. fill" cheering and applause. our country has — cheering and applause. cu" country has been injured. injured by the bad decisions of weak leaders. but now, though bloodied by our wounds, we must stand up and we must fight. fight not with violence or destruction, but with our voices and our votes, fight not against each other, but for the hopes and dreams we share in common and make us one. and

fight for an america where we are saved from those who seek to harm us, on our streets, and from abroad. and we will not be alone in this fight. for leading us in this fight will be a man who although wounded and facing danger, he stood up and facing danger, he stood up and raised his fist and reminded us that our people and our country are always worth fighting for. cheering and applause. it is time, it is time to put our country and —— and our people first again. and if we do, together, we will

make our people wealthy again! if we do together, we will make our country safe again! together, we will make donald trump our president, again! and together, we will notjust make america great again. we will make america greater than it has ever been. thank you. god bless you. has ever been. thank you. god bless yon-— bless you. cheering and applause _ bless you. cheering and applause. ladies - bless you. cheering and applause. ladies and - bless you. cheering and - applause. ladies and gentlemen lease applause. ladies and gentlemen please welcome... _ applause. ladies and gentlemen please welcome... you _ applause. ladies and gentlemen please welcome... you have i applause. ladies and gentlemen} please welcome... you have been listenin: please welcome... you have been listening to _ please welcome... you have been listening to the _ please welcome... you have been listening to the florida _ listening to the florida senator marco rubio who was a one—time challenge of donald

trump and also on that list of potential vice president picks before jd vance was potential vice president picks beforejd vance was unveiled. now we are going to listen to lara trump co—chair of the republican national committee and donald trump's daughter—in—law. is and donald trump's daughter-in-law. is there anybody _ daughter-in-law. is there anybody ready _ daughter-in-law. is there anybody ready to - daughter-in-law. is there anybody ready to send . anybody ready to send back donald trump to 1600 pennsylvania avenue! well, it may not be a surprise that i actually had a very different speech that i was prepared to give up here tonight. that all changed at 611, on saturday evening. nothing prepares you for a moment like that. our families faced ourfair share families faced our fair share of families faced ourfair share of death threats, mysterious powder sent to our homes, tasteless and violent comments directed towards us on social media, but none of that

prepares you as a daughter—in—law, to watch in real time, someone trying to kill a person you love. none of that prepares you as a mother, to quickly reach for the remote and turn your young children away from the screen, so that they are not witnessed to something that's ghastly memory of their grandfather for the rest of their lives. the prayers and well wishes we received over the last 72 hours have been overwhelming, to say the least. , �* , the least. cheering and applause. _ the least. cheering and applause. in _ the least. cheering and applause. in my - the least. cheering and applause. in my heart | the least. cheering and . applause. in my heart goes the least. cheering and - applause. in my heart goes out to the family _ applause. in my heart goes out to the family who _ applause. in my heart goes out to the family who lost _ applause. in my heart goes out to the family who lost a - to the family who lost a husband, and a father because of this senseless act. all of you here tonight and watching at home, mean the world to all of us in the trump family. cheering and applause. if

cheering and applause. ii? donald trump has shown us anything is that when it feels impossible to keep going, those are the times we must keep going. i don't know how many people here were watching at home have ever been to a trump rally but if you have never been, let me tell you about them, oh, some of you have been! 0h! regardless of how the media have painted these rallies, you would be hard pressed to find and to join a happier group of people, coming together over their love for the greatest country on earth, the greatest country on earth, the united states of america! cheering and applause. idea an one cheering and applause. idea anyone trying — cheering and applause. idea anyone trying to _ cheering and applause. ice: anyone trying to leave a trump

rally without leaving with some new friends, you always make friends at a donald trump rally, right? veterans, teachers, blue—collar workers, white—collar workers, active—duty military, police officers, firefighters, small business owners, latinos supporters, christian supporters, christian supporters jewish supporters, christian supportersjewish supporters, supporters jewish supporters, black supportersjewish supporters, black supporters, white supporters, gay supporters, republicans, independentand, republicans, independent and, yes, republicans, independentand, yes, even democrats. at a trump rally you are not viewed as your profession, your religion or the colour of your skin, you are viewed as one thing — an american! last saturday was a jarring reminder of that we, as americans, must always remember

there is more that unites us than divides us.— there is more that unites us than divides us. cheering and applause _ than divides us. cheering and applause. we _ than divides us. cheering and applause. we all _ than divides us. cheering and applause. we all want - than divides us. cheering and applause. we all want this. .. | applause. we all want this. .. you are watching _ applause. we all want this. .. you are watching bbc - applause. we all want this. .. you are watching bbc news. i applause. we all want this. .. l you are watching bbc news. live social coverage. we welcome our previous viewers. let's continue listening to the republican national committee co—chair lara trump. republican national committee co-chair lara trump.— co-chair lara trump. great aaain co-chair lara trump. great again for— co-chair lara trump. great again for all— co-chair lara trump. great again for all of _ co-chair lara trump. great again for all of us. - co-chair lara trump. great| again for all of us. proverbs 28 reads the wicked fleeing turnaround pursues but the righteous are as bold as a lion. , ~ , righteous are as bold as a lion. , �* , �* �* ,, lion. cheering and applause. and that truly — lion. cheering and applause. and that truly epitomises - and that truly epitomises donald trump. he is a lion! cheering and applause. he is

bold, he cheering and applause. he is bold. he is _ cheering and applause. he is bold, he is strong, _ cheering and applause. he is bold, he is strong, he _ cheering and applause. he is bold, he is strong, he is-