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to explain what has been done. i think that is crucial. so often inquiries make recommendations that they get put on a book shelf and nothing is done, they need to be monitored. even if they are not being invented a good reason easily given to the inquiry. on this report we are looking forward to that. we have heard these recommendations, but we have also said is a public inquiry so legally the government do not have to implement them. but i assume that you are hopeful that the new government will take on everything on board that she has said? in everything on board that she has said? ., ., ., , ., said? in addition we would be asking the government _ said? in addition we would be asking the government to _ said? in addition we would be asking the government to take _ said? in addition we would be asking the government to take on _ said? in addition we would be asking the government to take on things . the government to take on things that he has not said. for instance, she has not addressed racial inequalities, she has not spoken about the impact of austerity, the need for further investment so we will be picking up on her points. as you say, her points are not decisive, it is not what the government decides that matters. —— it is what the government decides that matters.. just
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it is what the government decides that matters- -_ that matters.. just how difficult is toda for that matters.. just how difficult is today for the _ that matters.. just how difficult is today for the families _ that matters.. just how difficult is today for the families of - that matters.. just how difficult is today for the families of the - today for the families of the bereaved? swamp always difficult in the sense that there is some pleasure to be taken from the positive recommendations but we do not forget the losses of the bereaved and what they have suffered. in bereaved and what they have suffered. .,. , bereaved and what they have suffered. .. , ., suffered. in fact, i will be at the memorial _ suffered. in fact, i will be at the memorial later _ suffered. in fact, i will be at the memorial later to _ suffered. in fact, i will be at the memorial later to recognise - suffered. in fact, i will be at the i memorial later to recognise those people. i memorial later to recognise those --eole. ~' ., memorial later to recognise those --eole. ~ ., ., , people. i know you have been involved in — people. i know you have been involved in other _ people. i know you have been involved in other high-profile| involved in other high—profile inquiries, do you think that the strength of what the baroness has said today will make it more likely that the politicians will do something so that what everyone says and another pandemic is around the corner that we will not lose as many lives? i corner that we will not lose as many lives? ., , ., ., ., lives? i hope we now have a government _ lives? i hope we now have a government which - lives? i hope we now have a government which is - lives? i hope we now have a government which is more | lives? i hope we now have a - government which is more amenable lives? i hope we now have a _
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government which is more amenable to changing the processes and to help those who are disadvantaged and to ensure that, she commented on the pandemic not being discriminatory but the way it affects people. we want to ensure that the vulnerable and particular are protected, and we hope that the government will be receptive to those submissions. irrespective of the words of the chair. , ., irrespective of the words of the chair. ,., ., ., irrespective of the words of the chair. _, ., ., ., ., , chair. going forward, we have many more of these _ chair. going forward, we have many more of these modules. _ chair. going forward, we have many more of these modules. are - chair. going forward, we have many more of these modules. are you - more of these modules. are you hopeful that people will be held to account? in this statement, she didn't apportion blame to people it is more of a a generic government failure. do you think that there should be blame apportioned to individuals? the should be blame apportioned to individuals?— should be blame apportioned to individuals? ., , ., , individuals? the family always look for accountability _ individuals? the family always look for accountability and _ individuals? the family always look for accountability and this, - individuals? the family always look for accountability and this, this - for accountability and this, this module, you could excuse herfor not
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ascribing individual responsibility. there was criticism of departments and the criticism of the process and sometimes, criticising individuals makes it more difficult to implement change because you then get into of people justifying their actions and so on. i can see why she has avoided that. but i would expect, particularly in module two, which talks about the response to look at individuals. �* ., ., , individuals. and, one of the things that was mentioned _ individuals. and, one of the things that was mentioned is _ individuals. and, one of the things that was mentioned is thick - individuals. and, one of the things that was mentioned is thick and i individuals. and, one of the things i that was mentioned is thick and how that was mentioned is thick and how that caused some of the problems that caused some of the problems that we face during covert mac. do you think that is likely to change within government? we you think that is likely to change within government?— within government? we are all sub'ect within government? we are all subject to _ within government? we are all subject to groupthink, - within government? we are all subject to groupthink, we - within government? we are all subject to groupthink, we are i within government? we are all. subject to groupthink, we are all subject to groupthink, we are all subject to groupthink, we are all subject to failure and it is something we should address. it is likely to see in government? we have
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to wait and see. it is quite a common feeling so who knows. thank ou ve common feeling so who knows. thank you very much — common feeling so who knows. thank you very much for _ common feeling so who knows. thank you very much for taking _ common feeling so who knows. thank you very much for taking the - common feeling so who knows. thank you very much for taking the time. if you arejustjoining us, the report, the first report, from the baroness is out and in its 200 odd pages it is damning. basically saying that we were not prepared, the uk was not prepared for the pandemic, and talking of that i am joined now by a preparedness expert from the institute of government. thank you very much forjoining us. i was wondering if i could get your initial reaction to what the baroness has had to say in her report. i baroness has had to say in her re ort. ~' . , report. i think it includes in there, report. i think it includes in there. a — report. i think it includes in there, a lot _ report. i think it includes in there, a lot of _ report. i think it includes in there, a lot of things - report. i think it includes in there, a lot of things that l report. i think it includes in i there, a lot of things that we report. i think it includes in - there, a lot of things that we were expecting. i think a lot of people already knew that we were not as prepared as we could have been. that we had largely prepared for the
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wrong type of pandemic. even where the preparedness exercises and plans had been set, those weren't always well coordinated or passed down to the front line and this report brings out all of that. the bits that i'm probably a bit surprised by is that she has focused on the inquiry on the resilience of public services. a lot of the questioning, particularly of people like george osborne and david cameron, was about the impact of austerity in public services and it is not picked up in great detail in this report.- great detail in this report. would ou like great detail in this report. would you like to _ great detail in this report. would you like to have _ great detail in this report. would you like to have seen _ great detail in this report. would you like to have seen more - great detail in this report. would you like to have seen more of. great detail in this report. would l you like to have seen more of that in this report? i you like to have seen more of that in this report?— in this report? i think that was a fundamental _ in this report? i think that was a fundamental factor _ in this report? i think that was a fundamental factor that - in this report? i think that was a fundamental factor that drove i in this report? i think that was a i fundamental factor that drove how well the public services were able to respond to this. from 2010
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onwards, particularly 2010 to 2015, there was a severe spending restraint in some services and substantial cuts to others. the result of that was that, in many cases, a lot of experienced staff had left their work and they're were high levels of vacancies. for example, among nurses that we had not invested nearly as much as we could have done in modern buildings, and equipment which made it difficult to socially distance or work remotely. all of that had an impact on our ability to respond and then to recoverfrom impact on our ability to respond and then to recover from the pandemic. impact on our ability to respond and then to recoverfrom the pandemic. i think, if you she has taken seems to be that, these are political decisions about how to wait long term risks with the kind of short—term needs to respond and deliver high quality public services. it seems unwilling or did
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not feel it was appropriate to criticise some of the overall spending decisions that had been made by the coalition in the subsequent government. ii made by the coalition in the subsequent government. if we look ahead, subsequent government. if we look ahead. which _ subsequent government. if we look ahead, which as _ subsequent government. if we look ahead, which as baroness _ subsequent government. if we look ahead, which as baroness said. - subsequent government. if we look ahead, which as baroness said. , i ahead, which as baroness said. , otherwise those lives that has been lost would be in vain stop. how difficult is it for everyone to work together, which is what she is suggesting? there needs to be one body which is responsible for emergency planning across the uk. i think it is easier in some services thanit think it is easier in some services than it is in others. particularly, for example, in the nhs or the police or the prisons. they are pretty well established command structures and it is relatively easy to make decisions at the centre and to make decisions at the centre and to pass them down the line. it is
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much less easy in services like schools or adult social care, for example, where there are thousands and thousands of much smaller providers. coordinating these kinds of groups is trickier. the other issueis of groups is trickier. the other issue is that how much time and headspace to those who are leading those services have to consider in what would happen in five or ten years' time given that they are so pressed with managing the kind of day—to—day issues that they are facing. it is one of the big question is that the new labour government is going to have to face, current spending plans from april next year are incredibly tight and would see some pretty substantial cuts to some services, particularly criminaljustice. if those are implemented, it is hard to see how there was a very busy and very
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stretched front line leaders are going to have the capacity or time to think about future pandemics. for the moment, thank you very much indeed. ijust want the moment, thank you very much indeed. i just want to show you, we are trying to listen to the sound because the families are making a statement just because the families are making a statementjust behind me. to watch the baroness had to stay. 1th statementjust behind me. to watch the baroness had to stay. as opposed to 'ust the baroness had to stay. as opposed to just understanding _ the baroness had to stay. as opposed to just understanding the _ the baroness had to stay. as opposed to just understanding the effects - the baroness had to stay. as opposed to just understanding the effects of. to just understanding the effects of these _ to just understanding the effects of these failures, _ to just understanding the effects of these failures, even— to just understanding the effects of these failures, even the _ to just understanding the effects of these failures, even the best - to just understanding the effects of these failures, even the best laid l these failures, even the best laid plans— these failures, even the best laid plans won't— these failures, even the best laid plans won't save _ these failures, even the best laid plans won't save lives _ these failures, even the best laid plans won't save lives or- these failures, even the best laid plans won't save lives or addressj plans won't save lives or address thatiust — plans won't save lives or address that just led _ plans won't save lives or address that just led to _ plans won't save lives or address thatjust led to our— plans won't save lives or address that just led to our inability- plans won't save lives or address that just led to our inability to i that just led to our inability to respond — that just led to our inability to respond quickly, _ that just led to our inability to respond quickly, effectively, i that just led to our inability to l respond quickly, effectively, we that just led to our inability to - respond quickly, effectively, we ask for this— respond quickly, effectively, we ask for this government _ respond quickly, effectively, we ask for this government to _ respond quickly, effectively, we ask for this government to produce i respond quickly, effectively, we ask for this government to produce a i for this government to produce a plan to— for this government to produce a plan to address _ for this government to produce a plan to address how— plan to address how inaudible - plan to address how inaudible conductl plan to address howl inaudible conduct a inaudible _ inaudible conduct a inaudible we - inaudible conduct a inaudible we are i inaudible conduct a | inaudible we are also inaudible conduct a - inaudible we are also calling inaudible conduct a _ inaudible we are also calling to establish — inaudible we are also calling to establish a — inaudible we are also calling to establish a resilience _ inaudible we are also calling to establish a resilience and - establish a resilience and preparedness. _ establish a resilience and
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preparedness. we - establish a resilience and preparedness.— establish a resilience and --rearedness. ~ , preparedness. we need somebody with. . . preparedness. we need somebody with... response _ preparedness. we need somebody with... response to _ preparedness. we need somebody with... response to holding i preparedness. we need somebody with... response to holding to i with... response to holding to account. the new government has the opportunity to learn from our loss, and from the findings of the inquiry. to make sure that when the next pandemic hits, we are a healthier, better protected and more resilient society. preparedness is our best defence. failure to prepare is indefensible. thank you. there we have the families, the bereaved families, talking here on the steps of the coleford mac inquiry, giving their reaction. how they do now want the government to act and how they want to aim meeting with the government to make sure that they follow through on these recommendations from the baroness. we're joined recommendations from the baroness. we'rejoined by recommendations from the baroness. we're joined by doctor phil bonfield who is the council chair of the british medical association. thank
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you very much forjoining us here. i wondered if i could get your initial reaction into what the baroness said today. this reaction into what the baroness said toda . ~ , �* , reaction into what the baroness said today. as you've 'ust seen, the very human cost — today. as you've 'ust seen, the very human cost of_ today. as you've just seen, the very human cost of this _ today. as you've just seen, the very human cost of this pandemic. i today. as you've just seen, the very human cost of this pandemic. we i today. as you've just seen, the very i human cost of this pandemic. we have seen confirmation of a states failure to prepare for a pandemic that was known to be coming, there has been warnings across two decades of planning that really failed to implement any of the recommendations of the planning, so we went into the pandemic with a less healthy population than we should have. we were ill—prepared, there was no capacity to increase bed numbers, increase basic preparedness for public health measures which would have stopped the pandemic and save lives. it have stopped the pandemic and save lives. . , have stopped the pandemic and save lives. ., , , ., , ., , lives. it was your staff, the doctors. — lives. it was your staff, the doctors, nurses, _ lives. it was your staff, the doctors, nurses, who i lives. it was your staff, the doctors, nurses, who had i
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lives. it was your staff, the | doctors, nurses, who had to lives. it was your staff, the i doctors, nurses, who had to deal with the fact that, as she put it, the government failed its citizens and plan for the wrong pandemic. public health doctors have expertise in public planning they knew what to do. �* ., ., , , , . do. but, unfortunately, public health had — do. but, unfortunately, public health had to _ do. but, unfortunately, public health had to be _ do. but, unfortunately, public health had to be dismantled i do. but, unfortunately, public. health had to be dismantled and do. but, unfortunately, public- health had to be dismantled and the front line public health doctors has begun separating from the planners. in central government. what happened when the increase in patient numbers started to come through the doors, was very rapidly expose the lack of beds and staff.— was very rapidly expose the lack of beds and staff. there are a number of recommendations. _ beds and staff. there are a number of recommendations. do _ beds and staff. there are a number of recommendations. do you i beds and staff. there are a number of recommendations. do you think| of recommendations. do you think that the government will follow through on those recommendations? what do you as the bma make of the recommendations? the what do you as the bma make of the recommendations?— what do you as the bma make of the recommendations? the commitment to simli and recommendations? the commitment to simplify and join — recommendations? the commitment to simplify and join up _ recommendations? the commitment to simplify and join up is — recommendations? the commitment to simplify and join up is highly _ simplify and join up is highly commendable, but of course, the baroness also says that this needs
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significant funding to make it happen. in particular, the search capacity we would need to cope with large numbers of admissions to hospitals needs significant funding, of course, if you make that capacity now, for the future, it would be there to be used for example for getting into the back log of waiting lists. irate getting into the back log of waiting lists. ~ ., , , getting into the back log of waiting lists. . ., , , lists. we have established some sound from _ lists. we have established some sound from the _ lists. we have established some sound from the family _ lists. we have established some sound from the family speaking. let's have a listen to what they are saying. d0 let's have a listen to what they are sa inc. ~' let's have a listen to what they are sa inc. ~ ., saying. do you think the more significant _ saying. do you think the more significant play _ saying. do you think the more significant play through i saying. do you think the more significant play through that i saying. do you think the more i significant play through that the baroness has made inaudible i think the most significant thing... inaudible i think the most sirnificant thin... , ., ., significant thing... occasion of the rocess significant thing... occasion of the process around _ significant thing... occasion of the process around civil _ significant thing... occasion of the process around civil contingencies | process around civil contingencies to make clear a clear a responsible de the highest governments
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inaudible immediately, there is no reason why a... can't be implemented immediately politicians here and in northern ireland are watching today and we ask them to do work immediately. inaudible they can see the families have gathered, they were allowed to read the report that the baroness has published today. obviously, it is a very difficult time for all of those friends and families who have lost loved ones during covert mac,
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the numbers are still staggering and so many people have lost family to covert mac. doctor phil banfield still with us. that is the sobering thought of all of this. the sheer number of lives that were lost to covert mac. number of lives that were lost to covert mac-— number of lives that were lost to covert mac. ~ ., , ., , , covert mac. what this report does is that, with better— covert mac. what this report does is that, with better preparedness, i covert mac. what this report does isj that, with better preparedness, that number would have been significantly lower and that is the tragedy that has happened. of course, being prepared for a future pandemic is needed to avoid such a tragedy occurring in the future. the baroness — occurring in the future. the baroness mentions - occurring in the future. the baroness mentions in i occurring in the future. the baroness mentions in the report that groupthink amongst ministers is difficult to get over, isn't it? it is, but it is a recurring theme within such a complex structure as
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the health service and government. the front line, the people who are experiencing the event as it happens, are often not a listen to and of course, that is still going on in inadequate respiratory protection in the front line. share protection in the front line. are ou protection in the front line. are you optimistic— protection in the front line. are you optimistic that these recommendations will be implemented, and if so, help clue would you expect them to be implemented? igrate and if so, help clue would you expect them to be implemented? we do have a new government, _ expect them to be implemented? we do have a new government, keir— expect them to be implemented? , cf have a new government, keir starmer is committed to implementing the covert inquiry�*s findings. there is nothing stopping these from being implemented immediately. this is a simplification, not a over complicating matters. joining up across the four nations is a political move, it is
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straightforward to do, this is a uk government for the whole uk. it covers a civil contingency across the uk, i would expect this to be done, there is no reason why it cannot take place and should happen. your members, meanwhile, a dealing day—to—day with coleford. people are still getting covert and we have still getting covert and we have still got extra elements to come from this inquiry. it is a key one today, what are you hoping for from the other modules that we still have in the covert inquiry? i do the other modules that we still have in the covert inquiry?— in the covert inquiry? i do not thinkthat _ in the covert inquiry? i do not think that we _ in the covert inquiry? i do not think that we have _ in the covert inquiry? i do not think that we have really i in the covert inquiry? i do not. think that we have really seen, in the covert inquiry? i do not i think that we have really seen, in this report, just how brutal it was. on the front line with doctors and other staff. they were exposed to enormous risks to inadequate respiratory protection, but also, having to decide who they could
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admit and who gets treatment and who was not getting treatment. that is a really tough decision to do when you have to triage, when you have to choose who comes into hospital and is not, because we did not have enough beds at the time. the council chair of the — enough beds at the time. the council chair of the bma, _ enough beds at the time. the council chair of the bma, thank _ enough beds at the time. the council chair of the bma, thank you - enough beds at the time. the council chair of the bma, thank you very i chair of the bma, thank you very much for your time on bbc news. if you'rejustjoining us, the covert, the first covert inquiry report has been published by the baroness and we have seen it is very damning. keir starmer said that the report confirms what many have always believed. the uk was underprepared for covert 19 and the process and planning and policy across all four nations failed uk citizens. that was the first reaction from the first prime minister, confirming what we
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always believed, the uk was underprepared for covert 19. the four nations failed uk citizens and thatis four nations failed uk citizens and that is the first comment and as we heard, the family say that they want the government to listen to the recommendations that the baroness made. they want a meeting with ministers to discuss how they are going to do it, and we were talking with a health editor, he was saying that baroness making it clear in some of the comments that she is going to follow through on the fact that these recommendations do need to be followed through and she is going to be keeping an eye on ministers stop so, the health industry will be digesting what the report says and i am sure that we will get some more reaction from the government. interestingly, the baroness did not name names on this.
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they were not names, it was more of a collective failure of the government to actually plan and prepare for the pandemic and she is making these ten recommendations. she says they need to happen. the main one is having this one body, that will work together to be able to plan for any more civil emergencies and all the experts say that there is likely to be another pandemic at some point. that is the point of this, she says, we must have gone through what we went through. if we don't learn the lessons. a reminder that the report said that the government failed its citizens uncovered by planning for the wrong pandemic. if you havejust joined us, the baroness addressed her report, she gave a short statement afterwards at midday. here's what she said. in
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statement afterwards at midday. here's what she said.— here's what she said. in 2019, it was widely _ here's what she said. in 2019, it was widely believed _ here's what she said. in 2019, it was widely believed that, i here's what she said. in 2019, it was widely believed that, in i here's what she said. in 2019, it was widely believed that, in the | was widely believed that, in the united kingdom and abroad, uk was not only properly prepared but was also one of the best prepared countries in the world to respond the pandemic. this belief was dangerously mistaken, in reality, the uk was ill—prepared to deal with the uk was ill—prepared to deal with the whole system of civil emergency for the pandemic, let alone the coronavirus pandemic which actually struck. in 2020, the uk lacked resilience. going into the pandemic, there had been a slowdown in health improvement and health inequalities had widened. hi and pre—existing levels of heart disease, diabetes, respiratory illness and others meant the uk was more vulnerable. public services, particularly health and
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social care, were running close to if not beyond capacity in normal times. at the same time, our national system, the civil emergencies and building preparedness, suffered from several significant flaws. the uk prepared for the wrong pandemic. the significant risk of a influenza pandemic had long been considered and planned for. however, that preparedness was inadequate for a global pandemic which struck. the institutions and structures were labyrinthine in their complexity. there were fatal strategic floors underpinning the risks faced by the uk and how the could be managed. how the state should respond. to give but one vitally important example,
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one of the first lines of defence for the pandemic is containment and this requires a system of test, trace and isolate which can be rapidly scaled up to meet the demands of the major outbreak. this did not exist in the united kingdom when the covert 19 pandemic struck. that is the baroness, a damning report from her and it is difficult for the families today of those who lost love walkmans during covert. i am pleased to bejoined by one family member. am pleased to be “oined by one family member.— am pleased to be “oined by one famil member. , , ., family member. yes, i lost my father back in the first _ family member. yes, i lost my father back in the first wave _ family member. yes, i lost my father back in the first wave in _ family member. yes, i lost my father back in the first wave in april - back in the first wave in april 2020. , ., , ., back in the first wave in april 2020. , ., ,., _, ., back in the first wave in april 2020. , ., _, ., m; 2020. tell us about your father. he was in the raf _ 2020. tell us about your father. he was in the raf as _ 2020. tell us about your father. he was in the raf as a _ 2020. tell us about your father. he was in the raf as a young - 2020. tell us about your father. he was in the raf as a young man, i 2020. tell us about your father. he was in the raf as a young man, he| was in the raf as a young man, he was in the raf as a young man, he was funny, cheeky, kind, lovable, my dad, i loved him. did
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was funny, cheeky, kind, lovable, my dad, i loved him.— dad, i loved him. did he have any underlying _ dad, i loved him. did he have any underlying health _ dad, i loved him. did he have any underlying health problems i dad, i loved him. did he have any underlying health problems or. dad, i loved him. did he have any| underlying health problems or was this, was he a healthy man and succumbed to covert? iie this, was he a healthy man and succumbed to covert?- this, was he a healthy man and succumbed to covert? he was healthy but he was bedridden, _ succumbed to covert? he was healthy but he was bedridden, he _ succumbed to covert? he was healthy but he was bedridden, he had - succumbed to covert? he was healthy but he was bedridden, he had just i but he was bedridden, he had just broken his hip so he had carers coming in. pandemic came in with the carers but i do not blame the carers but they did not have the correct ppe. ., y ., but they did not have the correct ppe. ., _, .,. ., but they did not have the correct ppe. ., _, ., ., ppe. could i get your reaction to the report _ ppe. could i get your reaction to the report from _ ppe. could i get your reaction to the report from the _ ppe. could i get your reaction to the report from the baroness i ppe. could i get your reaction to i the report from the baroness today? it is a good report, it could be better, but it is a good report so i think it should be positive. i am a bit concerned about the word vulnerable, does not cover everybody? 60% who were lost were disabled, does it cover ethnic minorities like the bangladeshi and black communities? does it cover clinically vulnerable people? that is a word which is bandied around
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and socially and economically as well. ., , ., well. the wording is quite damning, but we were — well. the wording is quite damning, but we were failed. _ well. the wording is quite damning, but we were failed. she _ well. the wording is quite damning, but we were failed. she is _ well. the wording is quite damning, but we were failed. she is really, i but we were failed. she is really, she really told _ but we were failed. she is really, she really told us _ but we were failed. she is really, she really told us how _ but we were failed. she is really, she really told us how it - but we were failed. she is really, she really told us how it is. i but we were failed. she is really, | she really told us how it is. there are current things that need to be abolished and started from scratch because they were not useful then and they are not as for now. itruihat and they are not as for now. what would you — and they are not as for now. what would you like _ and they are not as for now. what would you like the _ and they are not as for now. what would you like the government to do? they need to get on the straightaway, they need preparedness. we could have a pandemic tomorrow. covert is still with us and it is airborne and people are still dying. and there are other pandemics, it is notjust about coronavirus. share are other pandemics, it is not 'ust about coronavirus.i about coronavirus. are you optimistic _ about coronavirus. are you optimistic that _ about coronavirus. are you optimistic that is _ about coronavirus. are you optimistic that is going i about coronavirus. are you optimistic that is going to i about coronavirus. are you - optimistic that is going to happen. ? i have to be, i have to optimistic. i have to be, i have to optimistic. i am pleased that it is a good report. i i am pleased that it is a good re ort. ., ., ,.,, ., report. i am remaining positive. you said ou report. i am remaining positive. you said you wanted _ report. i am remaining positive. you said you wanted her _ report. i am remaining positive. you said you wanted her to _ report. i am remaining positive. you said you wanted her to go _ report. i am remaining positive. you said you wanted her to go further, i said you wanted her to go further, where would you like to have seen go
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further? igrate where would you like to have seen go further? ~ ., _, ., ., , further? we gave 22 recommendations, so there is a _ further? we gave 22 recommendations, so there is a lot — further? we gave 22 recommendations, so there is a lot more _ further? we gave 22 recommendations, so there is a lot more that _ further? we gave 22 recommendations, so there is a lot more that she - further? we gave 22 recommendations, so there is a lot more that she has i so there is a lot more that she has taken them into account.— taken them into account. there weren't that — taken them into account. there weren't that wasn't _ taken them into account. there weren't that wasn't any - taken them into account. there i weren't that wasn't any apportioned blame, it was about the general government, to think that is right or would you have liked to have seen some individuals held in this report? some individuals held in this re ort? ., some individuals held in this reort? ., ., ., some individuals held in this re ort? ., ., ., “ some individuals held in this reort? ., ., ., ~ ., , report? no, i do not think that is riuht. report? no, i do not think that is right- they _ report? no, i do not think that is right. they should _ report? no, i do not think that is right. they should have - report? no, i do not think that is right. they should have been i right. they should have been individuals to be held to account. are you hoping in the further one is that we get on the other modules that we get on the other modules that might happen?— that we get on the other modules that might happen? yes, i hoping in the further ones _ that might happen? yes, i hoping in the further ones that _ that might happen? yes, i hoping in the further ones that we _ that might happen? yes, i hoping in the further ones that we get - that might happen? yes, i hoping in the further ones that we get in i that might happen? yes, i hoping in the further ones that we get in the i the further ones that we get in the other modules that might happen? yes, i'm hoping so. thank you very much indeed. i do appreciate your time because it is very difficult. i appreciate your time. she lost her father during the covert pandemic. we will have much more by the one o'clock news coming up. we set the next couple of days
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because the jet stream, the flow of winds high in the atmosphere steering weather systems around the globe, is bending to the north of our shores, allowing us to draw this very warm and humid air up from the south. feeling the effects of that this afternoon across england and wales, where we are seeing some sunshine. more clouds, some rain, too, for northern ireland and western scotland. north—east scotland given some brightness getting into the low 20s celsius and further south, many parts of england and wales into the middle 20s. those temperatures above the average for the time of year. 27 or 28, the high in the southeast corner. and it's going to be a really warm and quite humid night, quite misty and murky for coastal hills in the west, and those overnight lows 13 to 17 degrees. so getting off to a pretty warm start tomorrow morning. and where we see that sunshine across many parts of england and wales, those temperatures will really respond through the day. quite misty and murky though for some of these western coasts, some more cloud generally at times for northern ireland and scotland,
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some rain into the western isles, where it will also turn quite breezy, but for many spots pretty warm. 21—22 degrees for belfast and for glasgow. 30 in london, somewhere could get to 31 degrees, but it probably won't last all that long because of this frontal system pushing in from the west on saturday, bringing some outbreaks of rain. but if that front moves slowly enough, we will still be able to bring some warm air into eastern parts of england through the day on saturday, so it could be another pretty warm one across those eastern parts where we see sunshine. although some showers and thunderstorms could erupt further west, a band of heavy rain moving quite slowly and cooling things off. so 16 for belfast, 18 for plymouth, but still perhaps the mid to high 20s across parts of central and eastern england. however, through saturday night into sunday that rain will slide northwards and eastwards, sweeping the heat and humidity away. a cooler day for all of us on sunday. not a bad day weather wise.
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some spells of sunshine, one or two showers, but top temperatures north 15 to 22 degrees.
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today at one, citizens were failed by the uk government and devolved nations, who didn't plan properly for the coronavirus pandemic. the first report from the covid inquiry says the virus caused more deaths and greater damage than it should have done. there damage than it should have done. were serious err pa rt there were serious errors on the part of the state, and serious flaws in our civil emergency systems. this cannot be allowed to happen again. also on the programme... joe biden tests positive for covid and pauses a campaign trip, as pressure grows for him to drop out of the presidential election race schools in england report a record number of pupils being suspended or permanently excluded. a new report says wrongly—jailed andrew malkinson could have been freed far earlier, and other miscarriges ofjustice may have been missed. and coming up on bbc news: the post—jimmy anderson era is underway for england cricket. they're taking on west indies in the second test match at trent bridge.

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