draft experience was that they would draft a reply _ experience was that they would draft a reply that was factually accurate and reasonable. you a reply that was factually accurate and reasonable.— a reply that was factually accurate and reasonable. you say that in your rel , and reasonable. you say that in your reply. given — and reasonable. you say that in your reply. given post— and reasonable. you say that in your reply, given post office _ and reasonable. you say that in your reply, given post office pass - reply, given post office pass responsibility— reply, given post office pass responsibility for— reply, given post office pass| responsibility for negotiating contractual— responsibility for negotiating contractual terms— responsibility for negotiating contractual terms and - responsibility for negotiating - contractual terms and conditions with sub—postmaster— contractual terms and conditions with sub—postmaster is, - contractual terms and conditions with sub—postmaster is, i - contractual terms and conditions with sub—postmaster is, i have l contractual terms and conditions - with sub—postmaster is, i have asked david _ with sub—postmaster is, i have asked david smith, — with sub—postmaster is, i have asked david smith, the _ with sub—postmaster is, i have asked david smith, the managing _ with sub—postmaster is, i have asked david smith, the managing director. david smith, the managing director of post— david smith, the managing director of post office — david smith, the managing director of post office to _ david smith, the managing director of post office to directly— david smith, the managing director of post office to directly respond i of post office to directly respond to my _ of post office to directly respond to my honourable _ of post office to directly respond to my honourable friend - of post office to directly respond to my honourable friend and - of post office to directly respond to my honourable friend and a l of post office to directly respond i to my honourable friend and a copy of his_ to my honourable friend and a copy of his reply— to my honourable friend and a copy of his reply will _ to my honourable friend and a copy of his reply will be _ to my honourable friend and a copy of his reply will be placed - to my honourable friend and a copy of his reply will be placed in- to my honourable friend and a copy of his reply will be placed in the - of his reply will be placed in the libraries— of his reply will be placed in the libraries of— of his reply will be placed in the libraries of the _ of his reply will be placed in the libraries of the house. - of his reply will be placed in the libraries of the house.— of his reply will be placed in the| libraries of the house. yes. that seems to _ libraries of the house. yes. that seems to be _ libraries of the house. that seems to be repeated libraries of the house.“ that seems to be repeated twice - libraries of the house.“ that seems to be repeated twice fori libraries of the house.“ that - seems to be repeated twice for some reason _ seems to be repeated twice for some reason 50. _ seems to be repeated twice for some reason 50. here, _ seems to be repeated twice for some reason. so, here, the _ seems to be repeated twice for some reason. so, here, the reply— seems to be repeated twice for some reason. so, here, the reply suggests| reason. so, here, the reply suggests you had, _ reason. so, here, the reply suggests you had, or— reason. so, here, the reply suggests you had, or somebody— reason. so, here, the reply suggests you had, or somebody on— reason. so, here, the reply suggests you had, or somebody on your- reason. so, here, the reply suggests| you had, or somebody on your behalf, had asked _ you had, or somebody on your behalf, had asked the — you had, or somebody on your behalf, had asked the managing _ you had, or somebody on your behalf, had asked the managing director- you had, or somebody on your behalf, had asked the managing director of. had asked the managing director of post office — had asked the managing director of post office to — had asked the managing director of post office to respond _ had asked the managing director of post office to respond to _ had asked the managing director of post office to respond to the - post office to respond to the question— post office to respond to the question raised. _ post office to respond to the question raised.— post office to respond to the l question raised.- but, post office to respond to the - question raised.- but, the question raised. indeed. but, the cuestion question raised. indeed. but, the question was: _ question raised. indeed. but, the question was: to _

question raised. indeed. but, the question was: to ask _ question raised. indeed. but, the question was: to ask for - question raised. indeed. but, the i question was: to ask for government what representations _ question was: to ask for government what representations it— question was: to ask for government what representations it had - question was: to ask for government what representations it had received| what representations it had received from jfsa _ what representations it had received from jfsa in — what representations it had received from jfsa in the _ what representations it had received from jfsa in the last _ what representations it had received from jfsa in the last 12 _ what representations it had received from jfsa in the last 12 months. - from jfsa in the last 12 months. indeed — from jfsa in the last 12 months. indeed but, _ from jfsa in the last 12 months. indeed but, i_ from jfsa in the last 12 months. indeed. but, i was _ from jfsa in the last 12 months. indeed. but, i was assuming... i from jfsa in the last 12 months. - indeed. but, i was assuming... why indeed. but, iwas assuming... why would mr smith _ indeed. but, iwas assuming... why would mr smith know the answer to that more _ would mr smith know the answer to that more than— would mr smith know the answer to that more than the _ would mr smith know the answer to that more than the government? i would mr smith know the answer to that more than the government? 1. would mr smith know the answer to i that more than the government? [was that more than the government? i was assumin: that more than the government? i was assuming that — that more than the government? i was assuming that that _ that more than the government? i was assuming that that was _ that more than the government? assuming that that was the way it had been — assuming that that was the way it had been done on the basis of what the advice — had been done on the basis of what the advice officials were giving me. what _ the advice officials were giving me. what you _ the advice officials were giving me. what you mean that you were asleep mean _ what you mean that you were asleep mean d_ what you mean that you were asleep mean d make — what you mean that you were asleep mean d make assuming _ what you mean that you were asleep mean d make assuming it— what you mean that you were asleep mean d make assuming it has- what you mean that you were asleep mean d make assuming it has been. mean d make assuming it has been done? _ mean d make assuming it has been done? what — mean d make assuming it has been done? what is _ mean d make assuming it has been done? what is that _ mean d make assuming it has been done? what is that it? _ mean d make assuming it has been done? what is that it? the - mean d make assuming it has been done? what is that it? the response to those types _ done? what is that it? the response to those types of _ done? what is that it? the response to those types of questions. - done? what is that it? the response to those types of questions. but - done? what is that it? the response to those types of questions. but the | to those types of questions. but the cuestions to those types of questions. but the questions are _ to those types of questions. but the questions are asking _ to those types of questions. but the questions are asking you _ to those types of questions. but the questions are asking you what - questions are asking you what representations _ questions are asking you what representations of— questions are asking you what representations of the - questions are asking you what . representations of the secretary questions are asking you what - representations of the secretary of state _ representations of the secretary of state has _ representations of the secretary of state has received. _ representations of the secretary of state has received. why— representations of the secretary of state has received. why does - representations of the secretary of i state has received. why does passing that on— state has received. why does passing that on to _ state has received. why does passing that on to mr— state has received. why does passing that on to mr smith _ state has received. why does passing that on to mr smith help _ state has received. why does passing that on to mr smith help with - state has received. why does passing that on to mr smith help with the - that on to mr smith help with the answer? — that on to mr smith help with the answer? i— that on to mr smith help with the answer? . . . that on to mr smith help with the answer? . , , .,, answer? i assumed those representations - answer? i assumed those representations would . answer? i assumed those - representations would always go to the post— representations would always go to the post office themselves, and that was the _ the post office themselves, and that was the way it operated because of the arm's—length relationship. i see, the arm's—length relationship. see, so the arm's—length relationship. i see, so because you assumed that any

previous— see, so because you assumed that any previous communications _ see, so because you assumed that any previous communications were - previous communications were themselves— previous communications were themselves forwarded - previous communications were themselves forwarded to - previous communications were themselves forwarded to the l previous communications were i themselves forwarded to the post office. _ themselves forwarded to the post office. the — themselves forwarded to the post office, the post _ themselves forwarded to the post office, the post office _ themselves forwarded to the post office, the post office was - themselves forwarded to the post office, the post office was in - themselves forwarded to the post office, the post office was in the i office, the post office was in the best place — office, the post office was in the best place to _ office, the post office was in the best place to answer _ office, the post office was in the best place to answer how- office, the post office was in the best place to answer how manyi best place to answer how many requests — best place to answer how many requests it _ best place to answer how many requests it had _ best place to answer how many requests it had received - best place to answer how many requests it had received oral. requests it had received oral representations _ requests it had received oral representations it— requests it had received oral representations it had - requests it had received oral. representations it had received requests it had received oral- representations it had received from jfsa? _ representations it had received from jfsa? i— representations it had received from jfsa? . , , ., , representations it had received from jfsa? ., , ., ., jfsa? i assumed that they had all been passed _ jfsa? i assumed that they had all been passed to _ jfsa? i assumed that they had all been passed to the _ jfsa? i assumed that they had all been passed to the post - jfsa? i assumed that they had all been passed to the post office. i jfsa? i assumed that they had all| been passed to the post office. at this stage. — been passed to the post office. at this stage, trying to understand my 'ob, this stage, trying to understand my job, i_ this stage, trying to understand my job, iwas— this stage, trying to understand my job, i was very reliant on advice i was being — job, i was very reliant on advice i was being given. can job, i was very reliant on advice i was being given.— job, i was very reliant on advice i was being given. can we turn to apo l 004 78 98? _ page 17. i think this is a draft

rel , page 17. i think this is a draft reply. is _ page 17. i think this is a draft reply. is that _ page 17. i think this is a draft reply, is that right? - page 17. i think this is a draft reply, is that right? if - page 17. i think this is a draft reply, is that right? if we - page 17. i think this is a drafti reply, is that right? if we can page 17. i think this is a draft - reply, is that right? if we can pan out _ reply, is that right? if we can pan out if— reply, is that right? if we can pan out. , ., reply, is that right? if we can pan out. i., reply, is that right? if we can pan out. i. . out. if you look under the tram lines, it out. if you look under the tram lines. it has — out. if you look under the tram lines, it has draft _ out. if you look under the tram lines, it has draft answer, - out. if you look under the tram lines, it has draft answer, and| out. if you look under the tram i lines, it has draft answer, and at the foot— lines, it has draft answer, and at the foot of— lines, it has draft answer, and at the foot of the _ lines, it has draft answer, and at the foot of the page, _ lines, it has draft answer, and at the foot of the page, excuse - lines, it has draft answer, and at| the foot of the page, excuse me, there _ the foot of the page, excuse me, there are — the foot of the page, excuse me, there are some _ the foot of the page, excuse me, there are some approval- the foot of the page, excuse me, there are some approval boxes. i the foot of the page, excuse me, i there are some approval boxes. can you see _ there are some approval boxes. can you see that? — there are some approval boxes. can you see that?— there are some approval boxes. can you see that? yes. is— there are some approval boxes. can you see that? yes. is that _ there are some approval boxes. can you see that? yes. is that rotary. you see that? yes. is that rotary club member— you see that? yes. is that rotary club member wrote _ you see that?“ is that rotary club member wrote books? - you see that?“ is that rotary| club member wrote books? what you see that?“ is that rotary- club member wrote books? what we saw before _ club member wrote books? what we saw before was _ club member wrote books? what we saw before was an _ club member wrote books? what we saw before was an actual— club member wrote books? what we saw before was an actual parliamentary- before was an actual parliamentary question— before was an actual parliamentary question and — before was an actual parliamentary question and answer, _ before was an actual parliamentary question and answer, this - before was an actual parliamentary question and answer, this is - before was an actual parliamentary question and answer, this is the i question and answer, this is the draft _ question and answer, this is the draft stage _ question and answer, this is the draft stage before _ question and answer, this is the draft stage before that. - question and answer, this is the draft stage before that. is - question and answer, this is the draft stage before that. is that i draft stage before that. is that right? — draft stage before that. is that right? to — draft stage before that. is that riuht? ., , draft stage before that. is that ritht? ., , ., ~' draft stage before that. is that riuht? . ,, draft stage before that. is that ritht? ., , ., ~' ., �* 4' ., right? to be frank, i don't know if the said right? to be frank, i don't know if they said draft — right? to be frank, i don't know if they said draft before _ right? to be frank, i don't know if they said draft before i _ right? to be frank, i don't know if they said draft before i signed - right? to be frank, i don't know if. they said draft before i signed them off, or— they said draft before i signed them off, orwhetherthey they said draft before i signed them off, or whether they didn't say draft~ — off, or whether they didn't say draft~ i'm _ off, or whether they didn't say draft. i'm not sure if it was that methodical. it draft. i'm not sure if it was that methodical-— methodical. it is from reem league-mac— methodical. it is from reem league-mac priti _ methodical. it is from reem league-mac priti patil - methodical. it is from reem league-mac priti patil to - methodical. it is from reem|

league-mac priti patil to ask methodical. it is from reem - league-mac priti patil to ask the league—mac priti patil to ask the secretary— league—mac priti patil to ask the secretary of _ league—mac priti patil to ask the secretary of state _ league—mac priti patil to ask the secretary of state how— league—mac priti patil to ask the secretary of state how many- league—mac priti patil to ask the . secretary of state how many times ministers _ secretary of state how many times ministers have _ secretary of state how many times ministers have had _ secretary of state how many times ministers have had discussions- secretary of state how many times ministers have had discussions oni ministers have had discussions on the horizon — ministers have had discussions on the horizon system. _ ministers have had discussions on the horizon system. the - ministers have had discussions on the horizon system. the horizon. ministers have had discussions oni the horizon system. the horizon it system _ the horizon system. the horizon it system is _ the horizon system. the horizon it system is an— the horizon system. the horizon it system is an operational— system is an operational responsibility— system is an operational responsibility of- system is an operational responsibility of the - system is an operational- responsibility of the company, and system is an operational— responsibility of the company, and i have had _ responsibility of the company, and i have had no— responsibility of the company, and i have had no discussions. _ responsibility of the company, and i have had no discussions. that- responsibility of the company, and i have had no discussions. that is- responsibility of the company, and i| have had no discussions. that is you want _ have had no discussions. that is you want something _ have had no discussions. that is you want something. it _ have had no discussions. that is you want something. it is _ have had no discussions. that is you want something. it is an— have had no discussions. that is you want something. it is an established convention _ want something. it is an established convention is — want something. it is an established convention is that _ want something. it is an established convention is that administrations . convention is that administrations cannot— convention is that administrations cannot see — convention is that administrations cannot see documents _ convention is that administrations cannot see documents of - convention is that administrations cannot see documents of the - convention is that administrations - cannot see documents of the previous administration — cannot see documents of the previous administration and _ cannot see documents of the previous administration and am _ cannot see documents of the previous administration and am therefore - administration and am therefore unable _ administration and am therefore unable to— administration and am therefore unable to provide _ administration and am therefore unable to provide the _ administration and am therefore i unable to provide the information requested — unable to provide the information requested. that— unable to provide the information requested. that was _ unable to provide the information requested. that was accurate - requested. that was accurate obviously _ requested. that was accurate obviously for _ requested. that was accurate obviously for you? _ requested. that was accurate obviously for you? you - requested. that was accurate i obviously for you? you haven't requested. that was accurate - obviously for you? you haven't had no meetings — obviously for you? you haven't had no meetings at _ obviously for you? you haven't had no meetings at this _ obviously for you? you haven't had no meetings at this time? - obviously for you? you haven't had no meetings at this time? yes. - obviously for you? you haven't had| no meetings at this time? yes. can we no no meetings at this time? yes. can we go forwards _ no meetings at this time? yes. can we go forwards to _ no meetings at this time? can we go forwards to page 15? third question from priti patil with

a draft _ third question from priti patil with a draft answer. to ask the secretary of state _ a draft answer. to ask the secretary of state for — a draft answer. to ask the secretary of state for business if he will review — of state for business if he will review the effectiveness of the post office _ review the effectiveness of the post office horizon it system and if you will report — office horizon it system and if you will report its findings to the house? _ will report its findings to the house? your draft answer: i have asked _ house? your draft answer: i have asked the — house? your draft answer: i have asked the md of post office to directly— asked the md of post office to directly respond to the honourable member— directly respond to the honourable member and a directly respond to the honourable memberand a copy directly respond to the honourable member and a copy of his reply will be placed _ member and a copy of his reply will be placed in the house library. again, — be placed in the house library. again, that is essentially maintaining the operational responsibility, right? w maintaining the operational responsibility, right? w itn 01610 trile one. the 8th ofjuly. from pretty patil

to ask— the 8th ofjuly. from pretty patil to ask the — the 8th ofjuly. from pretty patil to ask the secretary _ the 8th ofjuly. from pretty patil to ask the secretary of _ the 8th ofjuly. from pretty patil to ask the secretary of state - the 8th ofjuly. from pretty patil to ask the secretary of state fori to ask the secretary of state for business — to ask the secretary of state for business what _ to ask the secretary of state for business what his _ to ask the secretary of state for business what his most - to ask the secretary of state for business what his most recent i business what his most recent estimate — business what his most recent estimate was _ business what his most recent estimate was of _ business what his most recent estimate was of the _ business what his most recent estimate was of the cost - business what his most recent estimate was of the cost to i estimate was of the cost to postmasters _ estimate was of the cost to postmasters and _ estimate was of the cost to i postmasters and sub—masters estimate was of the cost to - postmasters and sub—masters of errors _ postmasters and sub—masters of errors on— postmasters and sub—masters of errors on the _ postmasters and sub—masters of errors on the horizon _ postmasters and sub—masters of errors on the horizon it- postmasters and sub—masters of errors on the horizon it system, | postmasters and sub—masters of- errors on the horizon it system, and if he will— errors on the horizon it system, and if he will make — errors on the horizon it system, and if he will make a _ errors on the horizon it system, and if he will make a statement. - errors on the horizon it system, and if he will make a statement. your. if he will make a statement. your reply: _ if he will make a statement. your reply: i_ if he will make a statement. your reply: i have _ if he will make a statement. your reply: i have asked _ if he will make a statement. your reply: i have asked david - if he will make a statement. your reply: i have asked david smith. if he will make a statement. your| reply: i have asked david smith of post office — reply: i have asked david smith of post office to _ reply: i have asked david smith of post office to respond _ reply: i have asked david smith of post office to respond directly- reply: i have asked david smith of post office to respond directly to i post office to respond directly to the honourable _ post office to respond directly to the honourable member- post office to respond directly to the honourable member and - post office to respond directly to the honourable member and a l post office to respond directly to i the honourable member and a copy post office to respond directly to - the honourable member and a copy of his reply— the honourable member and a copy of his reply will— the honourable member and a copy of his reply will be — the honourable member and a copy of his reply will be placed _ the honourable member and a copy of his reply will be placed in— the honourable member and a copy of his reply will be placed in a _ the honourable member and a copy of his reply will be placed in a house - his reply will be placed in a house library _ his reply will be placed in a house library. so. — his reply will be placed in a house library. so. it— his reply will be placed in a house library. so, it is— his reply will be placed in a house library. so, it is essentially- his reply will be placed in a house library. so, it is essentially the i library. so, it is essentially the same _ library. so, it is essentially the same answer— library. so, it is essentially the same answeras_ library. so, it is essentially the same answer as the _ library. so, it is essentially the same answer as the previous l library. so, it is essentially the i same answer as the previous one, maintaining — same answer as the previous one, maintaining the _ same answer as the previous one, maintaining the operational- maintaining the operational responsibility— maintaining the operational responsibility for— maintaining the operational responsibility for horizon i maintaining the operational- responsibility for horizon being the massive _ responsibility for horizon being the massive post — responsibility for horizon being the massive post office. _ responsibility for horizon being the massive post office. is _ responsibility for horizon being the massive post office. is that - responsibility for horizon being the massive post office. is that right? i massive post office. is that right? we move — massive post office. is that right? we move forward _ massive post office. is that right? we move forward to _ massive post office. is that right? we move forward to the - massive post office. is that right? we move forward to the 12th - massive post office. is that right? we move forward to the 12th of i massive post office. is that right? i we move forward to the 12th ofjuly. pole 004 _ we move forward to the 12th ofjuly. pole 004 oi — we move forward to the 12th ofjuly. pole 004 oi 98~ _ page 19, please. a letter to you

from _ page 19, please. a letter to you from an— page 19, please. a letter to you from an assembly _ page 19, please. a letter to you from an assembly member- page 19, please. a letter to you| from an assembly member from page 19, please. a letter to you - from an assembly member from the 12th of— from an assembly member from the 12th ofjuly— from an assembly member from the 12th ofjuly under _ from an assembly member from the 12th ofjuly under the _ from an assembly member from the 12th ofjuly under the heading - 12th ofjuly under the heading horizon — 12th ofjuly under the heading horizon post _ 12th ofjuly under the heading horizon post office _ 12th ofjuly under the heading horizon post office it- 12th ofjuly under the heading. horizon post office it accounting problems — horizon post office it accounting problems if— horizon post office it accounting problems if we— horizon post office it accounting problems. if we scroll— horizon post office it accounting problems. if we scroll down: - horizon post office it accounting problems. if we scroll down: as. horizon post office it accounting| problems. if we scroll down: as a former— problems. if we scroll down: as a former consultant _ problems. if we scroll down: as a former consultant in _ problems. if we scroll down: as a former consultant in the - problems. if we scroll down: as a former consultant in the postal. former consultant in the postal service — former consultant in the postal service sector, _ former consultant in the postal service sector, i'm _ former consultant in the postal service sector, i'm sure - former consultant in the postal service sector, i'm sure that. former consultant in the postal. service sector, i'm sure that you are of— service sector, i'm sure that you are of the — service sector, i'm sure that you are of the accounting _ service sector, i'm sure that you are of the accounting problemsi service sector, i'm sure that you i are of the accounting problems that have arisen— are of the accounting problems that have arisen from _ are of the accounting problems that have arisen from the _ are of the accounting problems that have arisen from the post _ are of the accounting problems that have arisen from the post office - have arisen from the post office arising. — have arisen from the post office arising, computer— have arisen from the post office arising, computer systems - have arisen from the post office - arising, computer systems resulting in postmasters _ arising, computer systems resulting in postmasters and _ arising, computer systems resulting in postmasters and post _ arising, computer systems resulting in postmasters and post mistresses| in postmasters and post mistresses in postmasters and post mistresses in caring _ in postmasters and post mistresses in caring financial— in postmasters and post mistresses in caring financial and _ in postmasters and post mistresses| in caring financial and sometimes... prosecutions _ in caring financial and sometimes... prosecutions. in— in caring financial and sometimes... prosecutions. in paragraphs- in caring financial and sometimes... | prosecutions. in paragraphs two, three' _ prosecutions. in paragraphs two, three. and _ prosecutions. in paragraphs two, three. and four, _ prosecutions. in paragraphs two, three, and four, the _ prosecutions. in paragraphs two, three, and four, the problem - prosecutions. in paragraphs two, three, and four, the problem with. three, and four, the problem with her constituent— three, and four, the problem with her constituent is— three, and four, the problem with her constituent is outlined, - three, and four, the problem with her constituent is outlined, and l her constituent is outlined, and paragraph — her constituent is outlined, and paragraph five _ her constituent is outlined, and paragraphfive at _ her constituent is outlined, and paragraph five at the _ her constituent is outlined, and paragraph five at the foot - her constituent is outlined, and paragraph five at the foot of- her constituent is outlined, and| paragraph five at the foot of the page. _ paragraph five at the foot of the page. where _ paragraph five at the foot of the page. where the _ paragraph five at the foot of the page, where the previous - paragraph five at the foot of the - page, where the previous government built up— page, where the previous government built up a _ page, where the previous government built up a very— page, where the previous government built up a very poor— page, where the previous government built up a very poor it—

page, where the previous government built up a very poor it record - page, where the previous government built up a very poor it record and - built up a very poor it record and already— built up a very poor it record and already entered _ built up a very poor it record and already entered into _ built up a very poor it record and already entered into a _ built up a very poor it record and already entered into a contract. built up a very poor it record and i already entered into a contract with bmi to— already entered into a contract with bmi to enable — already entered into a contract with bmi to enable post _ already entered into a contract with bmi to enable post office _ already entered into a contract with bmi to enable post office to - already entered into a contract with bmi to enable post office to ride . bmi to enable post office to ride rahge _ bmi to enable post office to ride range of— bmi to enable post office to ride range of financial _ bmi to enable post office to ride range of financial services, - bmi to enable post office to ride range of financial services, and i range of financial services, and then— range of financial services, and then over— range of financial services, and then over the _ range of financial services, and then over the page, _ range of financial services, and then over the page, please. i range of financial services, and| then overthe page, please. i'm range of financial services, and - then overthe page, please. i'm sure that you _ then overthe page, please. i'm sure that you will — then overthe page, please. i'm sure that you will agree _ then overthe page, please. i'm sure that you will agree that _ then overthe page, please. i'm sure that you will agree that the - that you will agree that the apparent _ that you will agree that the apparent inadequacies- that you will agree that the apparent inadequacies of. that you will agree that the i apparent inadequacies of the that you will agree that the - apparent inadequacies of the horizon it system _ apparent inadequacies of the horizon it system and — apparent inadequacies of the horizon it system and the _ apparent inadequacies of the horizon it system and the injustices - apparent inadequacies of the horizon it system and the injustices it - apparent inadequacies of the horizon it system and the injustices it is- it system and the injustices it is because — it system and the injustices it is because heed _ it system and the injustices it is because need immediate - it system and the injustices it is- because need immediate investigation and resolution — because need immediate investigation ahd resolution i— because need immediate investigation and resolution. i would _ because need immediate investigation and resolution. i would welcome - because need immediate investigation and resolution. i would welcome youri and resolution. i would welcome your advice _ and resolution. i would welcome your advice i_ and resolution. i would welcome your advice iwoutd — and resolution. i would welcome your advice. i would like _ and resolution. i would welcome your advice. i would like to _ and resolution. i would welcome your advice. i would like to know- and resolution. i would welcome your advice. i would like to know the - advice. i would like to know the goverhmeht_ advice. i would like to know the government intentions- advice. i would like to know the government intentions in- advice. i would like to know the government intentions in this l government intentions in this matter — government intentions in this matter for— government intentions in this matter. for this _ government intentions in this matter. for this to _ government intentions in this matter. for this to be - government intentions in this matter. for this to be passed| government intentions in this . matter. for this to be passed to government intentions in this - matter. for this to be passed to te for a _ matter. for this to be passed to te for a reply— matter. for this to be passed to te for a reply or— matter. for this to be passed to te fora reptv ora _ matter. for this to be passed to te for a reply or a draft _ matter. for this to be passed to te for a reply or a draft reply- matter. for this to be passed to te for a reply or a draft reply sure, . matter. for this to be passed to te for a reply or a draft reply sure, i. for a reply or a draft reply sure, i think— for a reply or a draft reply sure, i think ves~ — for a reply or a draft reply sure, i thihkves if— for a reply or a draft reply sure, i think yes if we _ for a reply or a draft reply sure, i think yes. if we move _ for a reply or a draft reply sure, i think yes. if we move on - 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bates on the basis of his first letter. plenty more for you, life page there. there is an inquiry is continuing and the evidence of sir ed davey. in the meantime, let us get a look at the weather. if you're a fan of warmer summer weather, this is certainly made you wait for it. the next few days will be probably to your liking. tomorrow, some places getting 31 degrees. hot for some of us, pretty humid forjust about all of us. the jet stream, the wind high in the atmosphere at searing weather systems around the globe bending to the north of our shores and allowing us to draw this very warm and humid air up from the south. feeling the effects of that this afternoon across england and wales where we are seeing some sunshine, more cloud and rain for northern ireland in the west of scotland. in the north—east of scotland, some brightness, low 205 in temperatures. in the south of england and wales, into the middle 205. those of above the average for

the time of year. 28 behind the south—east corner. really humid tonight, misty and making for coasts and heels kills in the west. overnight lows of 13—17 . a pretty warm start tomorrow morning. we see that sunshine across many parts of england and wales and those temperatures will really respond through the day. misty and murky for the western coast. cloud generally for northern ireland and scotland. rain into the western isles where it will turn bruising. for many spots, pretty warm, 21—90 from belfast and glasgow. 30 degrees in london. some places could get 31 degrees. it probably won't last all that long. this frontal system pushing in from the west on bringing some outbreaks of rain. front moves slowly enough, it may bring eastern parts of england warm air. another pretty warm one across eastern parts where we warm one across eastern parts where we see warm one across eastern parts where we see sunshine, although some

showers and thunderstorms could erupt. furtherwest, showers and thunderstorms could erupt. further west, a band of heavy rain moving slowly and cooling things off. sifting for belfast, 18 for plymouth, still the mid—high 205 across parts of central and eastern england. however, through saturday and into sunday, that rain will slide northwards and eastwards, sweeping the heat and humidity away. a cooler day for all of us on sunday, not a bad day weather wise, spells of sunshine, one or two showers, top temperatures north— south 15—22 .

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