looking frail and unsteady, it is almost painful to watch joe biden making his way home to isolation. there could not be a worse time for him to catch covid. it's really incumbent on people around joe biden to step up at this point and help the president. and help the man they love. we don't know whatjoe biden is going to do. i my democratic sources, - mostly on capitol hill tell me that it's looking more and more likely that it'sjust not sustainable that| he stays at the top of the party. but the next 72 hours are going to be criticah — joining me tonight on the panel. leslie vinjamuri, director of the us and americas programme at chatham house and former us federal prosecutorjoe moreno.

first, the latest headlines. president biden is under mounting pressure from fellow democrats to abandon his campaign for re—election, as he recovers at home from covid. the washington post says the former president, barack obama, has told allies that mr biden needs to seriously consider his candidacy. the republican national convention comes to a close in milwaukee tonight, and after days of build up it's donald trump's night. the former president will formally accept his party's nomination, and make a wide ranging speech expected to last more than an hour. a expected to last more than an hour. man was shot after a man was shot and seriously wounded after attacking a police officer in paris on thursday evening. the incident took place as paris is preparing to host the olympic games in the french capital from the 26th ofjuly. the report from the covid inquiry say that public was failed

by a government that wasn't prepared. the damning report on the uk's preparedness finds it with fundamental flaws and contingency planning before the outbreak. with the wrong choices being made about the wrong choices being made about the nation's health and the readiness of the health service to cope with the huge disaster. the race to become the next president of the united states has ta ken another unexpected twist. joe biden has tested positive for covid, forcing him to suspend all engagements and isolate at his delaware home. and it couldn't come at a worse time for the president. the noise from top democrats and some of his closest allies to end his campaign and stand aside is now deafening. the washington post is reporting that barack obama, who remains hugely influential within the party has told allies that his former vice president needs to seriously consider his candidacy. the top two democrats in the us congress,

senate majority leader chuck schumer and house minority leader hakeem jeffries, are both reported to have met him individually to express concerns over his bid for the white house. and nancy pelosi, the former house speaker, has also privately told him that he cannot beat donald trump in november's election, according to us media. as a result, the eighty—one—year—old president is now said to be open to considering changing his mind about running. and being stuck at home with covid, you can imagine he will be thinking about nothing else. all this comes whilst his opponent, donald trump prepares to deliver the closing speech at the republican national convention. his first since surviving an attempt on his life. leslie, let's start with you. the noise grows, the pressure grows. and still yet no word from joe biden. what do you make of the obama intervention tonight? i

what do you make of the obama intervention tonight?— intervention tonight? i think it significant- — intervention tonight? i think it significant. i— intervention tonight? i think it significant. i think _ intervention tonight? i think it significant. i think we're - intervention tonight? i think it | significant. i think we're seeing intervention tonight? i think it i significant. i think we're seeing a number of very senior people across the democratic party, highly influential people speaking to president biden, clearly leaking to the press, creating a lot of energy around this it dawned quiet temporarily after the failed to attempt. the fact that donald trump has come back so strong, that he followed very quickly with the announcement of his vice presidential candidate, that convention is on track and not in any way stepping back from a very maga agenda. very boisterous, it means there is space in the democratic party to revisit this question without feeling like it's going to destabilise the nation. the victim of the attackers moved on very quickly. so now i think there is a question of the democratic party of how and when as opposed to

whether president biden should decide not to run again. remember, these are people that have tremendous loyalty and belief in the president that feel he's had a very good term in office. that in no way underestimates the significant of his contribution over his entire career as well as his first term. it's a measure that is taken in good faith. there are many people of course very much focused forward. the buzz in the drama surrounding this national republican convention is very disturbing. the polling is not good. at this point i think there really is a sense of urgency and out the need to really make a firm decision and move ahead because it is not going to be an easy path for the democrats if that decision is made. , ., _, , for the democrats if that decision is made. , ., , ., is made. yes, of course all the while the _ is made. yes, of course all the while the clock— is made. yes, of course all the while the clock is _

is made. yes, of course all the while the clock is ticking - is made. yes, of course all the while the clock is ticking to - is made. yes, of course all the i while the clock is ticking to those elections in november. joe, i wonder what you make of the change in language. as yet no one has directly said, "joe now was a time to go." what we've seen and certainly president obama was notable in his silence up into now. that little by little the wording changes in these statements and the pressure piles on. are we expecting we may get to a stage where close allies ofjoe biden will actually be blunt and say, "joe, the time is up"? figs biden will actually be blunt and say, "joe, the time is up"? $5 a say, �*joe, the time is up"? as a human being — say, �*joe, the time is up"? as a human being i _ say, �*joe, the time is up"? as a human being i feel awful- say, �*joe, the time is up"? as a human being i feel awfulfor- say, "joe, the time is up"? as a human being i feel awful forjoe biden — human being i feel awful forjoe biden. no one should be going through— biden. no one should be going through that in his older years. is an american this is humiliating and not sustainable. we're not to have a figurehead _ not sustainable. we're not to have a figurehead type we're just not cut out like _ figurehead type we're just not cut out like that. as the language changes— out like that. as the language changes i think it will be more and more _ changes i think it will be more and more difficult for president biden to continue running. that being

said, _ to continue running. that being said. i— to continue running. that being said, i think we're seeing it is quite— said, i think we're seeing it is quite difficult to dislodge a president who has every intent of staying _ president who has every intent of staying in— president who has every intent of staying in office for as long as he can _ staying in office for as long as he can we — staying in office for as long as he can. we really don't have a credible mechanism — can. we really don't have a credible mechanism for removing someone who does not _ mechanism for removing someone who does not want to be removed. there is a 25th _ does not want to be removed. there is a 25th amendment but no one seems to have _ is a 25th amendment but no one seems to have the _ is a 25th amendment but no one seems to have the appetite to use that mechanism. i think that president obama _ mechanism. i think that president obama is — mechanism. i think that president obama is probably one of the few people _ obama is probably one of the few people that can impose onjoe biden the need _ people that can impose onjoe biden the need to step aside. i think probably— the need to step aside. i think probably bill clinton, certainly nancy — probably bill clinton, certainly nancy pelosi, chuck schumer, several of these _ nancy pelosi, chuck schumer, several of these people came out publicly. we hear— of these people came out publicly. we hear murmurs that some have spoke privately— we hear murmurs that some have spoke privately for _ we hear murmurs that some have spoke privately for that i agree with leslie — privately for that i agree with leslie. i'm surprised because i actually— leslie. i'm surprised because i actually thought after the assassination attempt on president trump _ assassination attempt on president trump this— assassination attempt on president trump this issue might die but it hasn't _ trump this issue might die but it hasn't it— trump this issue might die but it hasn't. it has come back right away. i hasn't. it has come back right away. i don't _ hasn't. it has come back right away. idon't think— hasn't. it has come back right away. i don't thinkjoe biden can stay in this race — i don't thinkjoe biden can stay in this race much longer. for i don't thinkjoe biden can stay in this race much longer.— this race much longer. for now thank ou. sta this race much longer. for now thank yon stay with _ this race much longer. for now thank

yon stay with us _ this race much longer. for now thank you. stay with us throughout - this race much longer. for now thank you. stay with us throughout the - you. stay with us throughout the hour as we assess these significant amount of stories throughout the evening. that's what's happening as far as the democrats are concerned. now let's focus in on the republican campaign. it's the last day of the party convention in milwaukee, in wisconsin. the whole event has felt a little like a coronation for donald trump. his candidacy was rarely in question. there have been speeches of support from across the party — and from members of his own family. they say you cannot truly know how you will respond in a moment of danger until you are actually confronted with it. so, what was my father's instinct as his life was on the line? not to cower, not to surrender, but to show for all the world to see that the next american president has the heart of a lion. also there, his newly announced running mate — ohio senatorjd vance. to the people of middletown ohio and all the forgotten communities, in michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania and ohio and every

corner of our nation, i promise you this. i will be a vice president who never forgets where he came from. and tonight — we'll hear from the man himself. donald trump will make his first major speech since surviving an assassination attempt at a rally in pennsylvania on saturday. the former president will close the republican convention. we'll have it live, here on bbc news. watching it there for us will be my colleague — katrina perry, one of our chief us presenters. this was a speech that was always going to be watched closely. given the events of the weekend it will be so much focused on what trump has to say. so much focused on what trump has to sa . . ., ., say. indeed it will come a band. i hoe ou say. indeed it will come a band. i hone you can _ say. indeed it will come a band. i hope you can hear _ say. indeed it will come a band. i hope you can hear me _ say. indeed it will come a band. i hope you can hear me because i say. indeed it will come a band. i- hope you can hear me because we're in the middle of the sound check for two nights proceedings. our rousing rendition of the star—spangled banner being rehearsed for that what

we will see is going to be a marked contrast to that image you've just been showing their ofjoe biden coming down the steps of air force one. from what i've seen of the sound check and dress rehearsal this is going to be a high energy performance, high enthusiasm for that we just heard that star—spangled banner rendition, kid rock has been rehearsing as well. he's going be performing his song american bad asjust he's going be performing his song american bad as just before he's going be performing his song american bad asjust before donald trump comes on stage. he's adapted some of the lyrics just as you'd imagine you have a trump, trump, rally cry, fight, fight, fight rally cry in the middle of that performance. using a high energy donald trump walking out into stage a man who just had assassination attempt on him on saturday he's been wearing that bandage all week, something that's been adopted by something that's been adopted by some of his supporters he pulled up a bit of a fashion trend at the convention to have a bandage on your right ear in solidarity with one of

the nomination party, or donald trump has gone through. in the week he said he had ripped up the speech he said he had ripped up the speech he intended to deliver and is written and won himself a cup it's good to be very personal, it's going to address what he went through on saturday. that bullet whizzing by his right ear, how he felt, how he feels about the need for unity in this country now. the need to tone down the politically violent rhetoric that we've heard from both campaigns, in fairness for many e to eight weeks, many years. he's going to whip the crowd into a frenzy here. the first time his wife milani and trump will be here and his daughter ivanic off. we haven't seen them on the campaign trail at all this year. they will be in the vip box just below here. 5m? this year. they will be in the vip boxjust below here.— this year. they will be in the vip boxjust below here. box 'ust below here. stay with us. i will boxjust below here. stay with us. i will brin: boxjust below here. stay with us. i will bring in — boxjust below here. stay with us. i will bring in the _ boxjust below here. stay with us. i will bring in the panel. _ boxjust below here. stay with us. i will bring in the panel. let's - boxjust below here. stay with us. i will bring in the panel. let's bring l will bring in the panel. let's bring injoe and leslie. the contrast could not be greater. this all plays to mr trump's favour, doesn't it? he

will walk out on that stage having survived an assassination attempt on saturday looking like the strong man and all of this sort ofjoe biden meanwhile isolating at home with covid. . , meanwhile isolating at home with covid. ., , , , covid. certainly. the republican national convention _ covid. certainly. the republican national convention with - covid. certainly. the republican national convention with formerj national convention with former president — national convention with former president donald trump in a very young _ president donald trump in a very young vice — president donald trump in a very young vice presidential running mate. — young vice presidential running mate. a — young vice presidential running mate, a lot of music, a unified republican— mate, a lot of music, a unified republican party for that which is very much— republican party for that which is very much in contrast with where the democrats _ very much in contrast with where the democrats have been felt that they've — democrats have been felt that they've been very divided and that's been on _ they've been very divided and that's been on display in spades in the last few— been on display in spades in the last few weeks. the republican party has consolidated, is unified around donald _ has consolidated, is unified around donald trump make america great again— donald trump make america great again slogan, his agenda, the policy positions _ again slogan, his agenda, the policy positions are pretty clear. and the candidate. — positions are pretty clear. and the candidate, nobody knew exactly who he would _ candidate, nobody knew exactly who he would choose but in some ways it seems _ he would choose but in some ways it seems like _ he would choose but in some ways it seems like a — he would choose but in some ways it seems like a choice that is designed

to underscore president biden is age _ to underscore president biden is age by— to underscore president biden is age. by appointing a 39—year—old man from ohio _ age. by appointing a 39—year—old man from ohio who has quite frankly very little experience. less then a couple — little experience. less then a couple of _ little experience. less then a couple of years i believe but is very— couple of years i believe but is very articulate, has tremendous energy — very articulate, has tremendous enera . .. very articulate, has tremendous ener: . ., ., ., , very articulate, has tremendous ener: . ., ., ., energy. someone who was formerly a critic of mr trump. _ energy. someone who was formerly a critic of mr trump. and _ energy. someone who was formerly a critic of mr trump. and somebody - energy. someone who was formerly a | critic of mr trump. and somebody who has showed many _ critic of mr trump. and somebody who has showed many flips. _ critic of mr trump. and somebody who has showed many flips. he _ critic of mr trump. and somebody who has showed many flips. he certainly i has showed many flips. he certainly made _ has showed many flips. he certainly made light— has showed many flips. he certainly made light of that. i was very opposed _ made light of that. i was very opposed to donald trump until i met him. opposed to donald trump until i met him but— opposed to donald trump until i met him. but typically donald trumps agenda _ him. but typically donald trumps agenda certainly on the foreign—policy side in a much more sophisticated way than the former president— sophisticated way than the former president does. joe, sophisticated way than the former president does.— president does. joe, what will be that agenda? _ president does. joe, what will be that agenda? we're _ president does. joe, what will be that agenda? we're told - president does. joe, what will be that agenda? we're told judging | president does. joe, what will be i that agenda? we're told judging by the article that donald trump wrote at the weekend saying this speech will be about ushering in a new golden age for america, he says he has rewritten it in the wake of that assassination attempt. this is a market attackjoe biden, i'm talk about bringing invited dues america

together. even the whole world together. even the whole world together. he's not short of ambition, is he? he together. he's not short of ambition, is he?— together. he's not short of ambition, is he? he has an opportunity _ ambition, is he? he has an opportunity here _ ambition, is he? he has an opportunity here that - ambition, is he? he has an opportunity here that does| ambition, is he? he has an - opportunity here that does not happen— opportunity here that does not happen often _ opportunity here that does not happen often. in— opportunity here that does not happen often. in the _ opportunity here that does not happen often. in the wake - opportunity here that does not happen often. in the wake of. opportunity here that does not i happen often. in the wake of the assassination— happen often. in the wake of the assassination attempt— happen often. in the wake of the assassination attempt donald . happen often. in the wake of the - assassination attempt donald trump has the _ assassination attempt donald trump has the opportunity _ assassination attempt donald trump has the opportunity to _ assassination attempt donald trump has the opportunity to change - assassination attempt donald trump has the opportunity to change the i has the opportunity to change the rhetoric— has the opportunity to change the rhetoric that — has the opportunity to change the rhetoric that we're _ has the opportunity to change the rhetoric that we're so _ has the opportunity to change thej rhetoric that we're so accustomed has the opportunity to change the i rhetoric that we're so accustomed to hearing _ rhetoric that we're so accustomed to hearing from — rhetoric that we're so accustomed to hearing from him _ rhetoric that we're so accustomed to hearing from him for— rhetoric that we're so accustomed to hearing from him for the _ rhetoric that we're so accustomed to hearing from him for the past- rhetoric that we're so accustomed to hearing from him for the past eight. hearing from him for the past eight years. _ hearing from him for the past eight years. which— hearing from him for the past eight years. which is— hearing from him for the past eight years, which is usually— hearing from him for the past eight years, which is usually that - hearing from him for the past eight years, which is usually that of i hearing from him for the past eight years, which is usually that of a i years, which is usually that of a vicious — years, which is usually that of a vicious attack— years, which is usually that of a vicious attack dog. _ years, which is usually that of a vicious attack dog. if— years, which is usually that of a vicious attack dog. if he - years, which is usually that of a | vicious attack dog. if he actually embraces — vicious attack dog. if he actually embraces the _ vicious attack dog. if he actually embraces the idea _ vicious attack dog. if he actually embraces the idea of— vicious attack dog. if he actually embraces the idea of unity, i vicious attack dog. if he actually embraces the idea of unity, the| vicious attack dog. if he actually- embraces the idea of unity, the idea of not _ embraces the idea of unity, the idea of not using — embraces the idea of unity, the idea of not using government _ embraces the idea of unity, the idea of not using government to - embraces the idea of unity, the idea of not using government to attack. of not using government to attack each other. — of not using government to attack each other. to _ of not using government to attack each other, to not _ of not using government to attack each other, to not use _ of not using government to attack each other, to not use harmful. each other, to not use harmful language — each other, to not use harmful language to _ each other, to not use harmful language to attack _ each other, to not use harmful language to attack each - each other, to not use harmful language to attack each otherl each other, to not use harmful. language to attack each other but instead _ language to attack each other but instead to — language to attack each other but instead to revert _ language to attack each other but instead to revert back _ language to attack each other but instead to revert back to - language to attack each other but instead to revert back to our- instead to revert back to our history. _ instead to revert back to our history, which— instead to revert back to our history, which is— instead to revert back to our history, which is actually- instead to revert back to our history, which is actually to i history, which is actually to vigorously— history, which is actually to vigorously debate - history, which is actually to vigorously debate the i history, which is actually to i vigorously debate the issues, history, which is actually to - vigorously debate the issues, that would _ vigorously debate the issues, that would be — vigorously debate the issues, that would be a — vigorously debate the issues, that would be a fantastic _ vigorously debate the issues, that would be a fantastic opportunity. i vigorously debate the issues, that i would be a fantastic opportunity. he has to— would be a fantastic opportunity. he has to actually — would be a fantastic opportunity. he has to actually do _ would be a fantastic opportunity. he has to actually do it _ would be a fantastic opportunity. he has to actually do it and _ would be a fantastic opportunity. he has to actually do it and he - would be a fantastic opportunity. he has to actually do it and he has i would be a fantastic opportunity. he has to actually do it and he has to i has to actually do it and he has to stick— has to actually do it and he has to stick with— has to actually do it and he has to stick with it — has to actually do it and he has to stick with it for _ has to actually do it and he has to stick with it for the _ has to actually do it and he has to stick with it for the next for - stick with it for the next for months. _ stick with it for the next for months, which _ stick with it for the next for months, which i _ stick with it for the next for months, which i imagine i stick with it for the next for i months, which i imagine could stick with it for the next for - months, which i imagine could be difficult _ months, which i imagine could be difficult for — months, which i imagine could be difficult for him _ months, which i imagine could be difficult for him —— _ months, which i imagine could be difficult for him —— four— months, which i imagine could be difficult for him —— four months. i months, which i imagine could be| difficult for him —— four months. if you take _ difficult for him —— four months. if you take that _ difficult for him —— four months. if you take that opportunity- difficult for him —— four months. if you take that opportunity he i difficult for him —— four months. ifj you take that opportunity he could convert _ you take that opportunity he could convert a — you take that opportunity he could convert a race _ you take that opportunity he could convert a race which _ you take that opportunity he could convert a race which by— you take that opportunity he could convert a race which by now - you take that opportunity he could convert a race which by now it i you take that opportunity he could i convert a race which by now it looks promising _ convert a race which by now it looks promising for— convert a race which by now it looks promising for him _ convert a race which by now it looks promising for him to _ convert a race which by now it looks promising for him to an— convert a race which by now it looks promising for him to an absolute i promising for him to an absolute landslide — promising for him to an absolute landslide if— promising for him to an absolute landslide if he _ promising for him to an absolute landslide if he in _ promising for him to an absolute landslide if he in fact _ promising for him to an absolute landslide if he in fact can - promising for him to an absolute landslide if he in fact can carry. landslide if he in fact can carry this off —

landslide if he in fact can carry this off. . , landslide if he in fact can carry this off. ., , , ,., , landslide if he in fact can carry this off. ., , , , ., this off. that unity message is a real departure _ this off. that unity message is a real departure from _ this off. that unity message is a real departure from what - this off. that unity message is a real departure from what we'vel this off. that unity message is a i real departure from what we've heard from mr trump on the campaign trail thus far. i wonder and i put it to you, that assassination attempt of the weekend, significant as it was could have implications that will last for many years because it could change the outcome of this election. and the nature of the campaigning ahead of the selection. it and the nature of the campaigning ahead of the selection.— ahead of the selection. it could chance ahead of the selection. it could change the _ ahead of the selection. it could change the outcome _ ahead of the selection. it could change the outcome of - ahead of the selection. it could change the outcome of the i ahead of the selection. it could i change the outcome of the election but if you look at the polling and the sense on the ground donald trump was ahead ofjoe biden before the debate. he was ahead ofjoe biden before the assassination attempt i think you can safely say he's ahead ofjoe biden and all polls now for that we're many months off the election day and do we even know who's going to be on the ticket at this point? we don't. on the question of unity, putting that point to some of the elected officials here at the congress, whether they think it's actually an achievable goal, most of them had said no, it's not. politics is politics. when you're seeking to be

reelected you have to go after your opponent and that's the way this is politics. when you're seeking to be reelected you have to go after your opponent and that's the way this is. they've kind of said it's nice to talk about unity and lowering the tone but that's not really possible in the country that is so polarised. it's interesting in the speech we've heard from the stage for the last few nights, people who are running on down ballot races for lower office are more fired up in the rhetoric that they've delivered from the stage. people who are higher up the stage. people who are higher up the billing, if you like, have been calm, donald trumpjuniorfor calm, donald trump junior for example calm, donald trumpjuniorfor example last night did not deliver what you might called a red meat speech he was very measured, talking again about what his father had gone through. we seen a real effort to humanise donald trump over these last few days. the republican party at large has been really strategic and how they've approached this convention to the point leslie was making a little earlier, there is a unity in the message but their messaging is quite different. donald

trump in the trump campaign are trying to make this a bolder charge. thought the tank, really reaching out to the sort of voters that would normally be in the democratic stronghold as blue—collar workers, those union workers and of course those union workers and of course those battleground states where this election in particular this year will be fought and won. i election in particular this year will be fought and won. i know you will be fought and won. i know you will talk us — will be fought and won. i know you will talk us through _ will be fought and won. i know you will talk us through everything i will be fought and won. i know you will talk us through everything as i will talk us through everything as of the speeches get under way there tonight here on bbc news. for now, thank you and well done surviving that music as they warm up at the convention. tojoe and leslie, we will be back with you in just a moment. around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news.

this is the context on bbc news. four years on from the covid—i9 outbreak — governments around the world are still examining the decisions that were made in order to better prepare

for a future pandemic. well today, here in the uk, the first report from the covid inquiry has revealed that the uk government �*failed its citizens' and didn't plan well enough for a potential pandemic. the inquiry heard from hundreds of witnesses and concluded majorflaws in the uk's preparation meant the virus caused more death and greater economic damage that it should have done. it is now calling for radical reform of the systems that were put in place. empty streets, schools closed, deadly viruses are not new. this was mexico 15 years ago, even mask wearing was enforced. previous global outbreaks had shown the world how an infectious disease could be controlled, but when covid struck, doctors like lisa remember how the uk was not ready. we were not prepared at all for anything of this level. we were scrambling to try to piece things together. we've had so many opportunities in the past with sars,

with swine flu to learn lessons about how to lock down, how to have stockpiles of protective gear, how to wear masks properly. and we've learned nothing. today, the findings from the first phase of the inquiry were published. it concluded... and then went on to state that... i have no hesitation in concluding that the processes, planning and policy of the civil contingency structures across the united kingdom failed the citizens of all four nations. there were serious errors on the part of the state and serious flaws in our civil emergency systems. this cannot be allowed to happen again. the bereaved, including deborah, seen here on the left,

gathered at the inquiry. her mother contracted covid in march 2020 and didn't survive. a very comprehensive report, hard—hitting. there's lot in there, you know, the families, what we have experienced, it is there in black—and—white now. they said the government were ill—prepared. by the time people flown back from china were bussed into quarantine in early 2020, the uk was already playing catch up. that's incredible. but for those working in social care, it was too little too late. there was no preparation for infection prevention at all within the care home setting. did you? maria was in charge of a care home in early 2020. herfirst resident died of covid in mid february, but in the week it took to confirm it was the virus that killed him, another nine residents contracted it. in those early days, there was no guidance, there was no ppe being sent to us. it was extremely scary.

it was extremely isolating to be told to kind ofjust get on with it, really. it felt like an absolute war zone. it was just... ..like us versus the virus. today's report says rather than focusing on how to stop the spread of a disease, including stockpiling ppe and preparing a testing programme, the uk was too focused on coping with the consequences. as the report concludes, they should've concentrated on tackling the causes. hugh pym, bbc news. let's talk to joe and leslie let's talk tojoe and leslie about this. it's a damning report. it says the uk government failed its citizens. joe, will there be any sympathy? governments around the world were dealing with the pandemic in his own ways and nobody knew how quickly it could spray, how

devastating, not only to health but also to the economy and things like jobs. should we be a bit more sympathetic to those who are having to make decisions in the heat of the moment? i to make decisions in the heat of the moment? ~ ,., to make decisions in the heat of the moment? ~' ,., ~' to make decisions in the heat of the moment? ~ ~ ., , ., moment? i think so. i think many of the self criticisms _ moment? i think so. i think many of the self criticisms that _ moment? i think so. i think many of the self criticisms that the _ moment? i think so. i think many of the self criticisms that the british i the self criticisms that the british government is now facing, i think we would also share here in the united states with a we can always second—guess was think this money of criticism about how we should have prioritised better the elderly and those with asthma and other respiratory concerns. whether or not we should have remove children from school for as long as we did, whether or not the mask and the self distancing were all really well thought out. i don't think anyone actually thinks any of the stars would net variously. i think is a general sense of the united states that we did the best we could for that we did the best we could for that we did the best we could for that we could always be more prepared, always second—guess ourselves. —— nefarious way. it's a good thing that we have a pandemic like this every 100 years or so for that now that we've been through one

in modern times we can hopefully be better prepared next time.— better prepared next time. leslie, one of the key _ better prepared next time. leslie, one of the key criticism _ better prepared next time. leslie, one of the key criticism is - better prepared next time. leslie, one of the key criticism is what i one of the key criticism is what they called groupthink amongst scientists all clubbing together and coming up with what they thought would be the answer. they say it was because it was too little questioning, too little pushback or challenge from ministers. ministers were qualified to push back for the this is the thing i find were qualified to push back for the this is the thing ifind intriguing, would something that we didn't know what it was and how devastating it could be, what pushback would you get from ministers? i could be, what pushback would you get from ministers?— get from ministers? i think it's tremendously _ get from ministers? i think it's tremendously important i get from ministers? i think it's tremendously important that l get from ministers? i think it's - tremendously important that there's been this_ tremendously important that there's been this kind of inquiry. it should been this kind of inquiry. it should be taken _ been this kind of inquiry. it should be taken extremely seriously. yes, of course _ be taken extremely seriously. yes, of course we were all dealing with something that we knew very little about _ something that we knew very little about. but the fact is a lot of people — about. but the fact is a lot of people died, a lot of people lost their— people died, a lot of people lost their relatives, their families, their— their relatives, their families, their parents. i hope that there is

adequate — their parents. i hope that there is adequate intervention given to the failures— adequate intervention given to the failures of— adequate intervention given to the failures of leadership. we saw failures— failures of leadership. we saw failures of leadership. we saw failures of leadership. we saw failures of leadership in the unit k, the _ failures of leadership in the unit k, the united states, we saw in the united _ k, the united states, we saw in the united states lots of hubris. —— the uk and _ united states lots of hubris. —— the uk and the — united states lots of hubris. —— the uk and the united states of course this was— uk and the united states of course this was new, it was difficult to .et this was new, it was difficult to get your— this was new, it was difficult to get your head around, it's not surprising _ get your head around, it's not surprising that given the leaders at the time _ surprising that given the leaders at the time that ministers were reiuctaht_ the time that ministers were reluctant to challenge for that that doesn't _ reluctant to challenge for that that doesn't negate the profound consequences that so many people suffered _ consequences that so many people suffered in the extreme importance of calling _ suffered in the extreme importance of calling them to account. having this kind _ of calling them to account. having this kind of— of calling them to account. having this kind of inquiry is absolutely essehtiat — this kind of inquiry is absolutely essential. we should applaud the uk for taking _ essential. we should applaud the uk for taking it so seriously. they are absolutely — for taking it so seriously. they are absolutely must be follow—up. this is really _ absolutely must be follow—up. this is really the key, what comes from their— is really the key, what comes from their report — is really the key, what comes from their report in terms of next steps. it's their report in terms of next steps. it's hard _ their report in terms of next steps. it's hard enough to get through this kind of— it's hard enough to get through this kind of inquiry at this scale to face — kind of inquiry at this scale to face the — kind of inquiry at this scale to face the political battles, the resource _ face the political battles, the resource battles at a time when

we've _ resource battles at a time when we've hail— resource battles at a time when we've ball at some level moved on. but really. — we've ball at some level moved on. but really, the follow—up is absolutely essential. but really, the follow-up is absolutely essential.- but really, the follow-up is absolutely essential. joe, the follow-up _ absolutely essential. joe, the follow-up of _ absolutely essential. joe, the follow-up of the _ absolutely essential. joe, the - follow-up of the recommendations follow—up of the recommendations that the chair of the inquiry wants to be enacted very quickly. you're quite right, leslie, saying she's a chair of the inquiry saying never again can disease be allowed to lead to so much death and suffering. the key point is what lessons can be learned for next time for the one assumes there will be a next time. joe, what you make of the recommendations? things like an independent body that will advise on civil emergencies, 83 yearly pandemic response exercise to stress test. were going to have to get used to stuff like this given what that report is suggesting.— to stuff like this given what that report is suggesting. yes. i think to even suggest _ report is suggesting. yes. i think to even suggest this, _ report is suggesting. yes. i think to even suggest this, i _ report is suggesting. yes. i think to even suggest this, i think- report is suggesting. yes. i think to even suggest this, i think we | to even suggest this, i think we almost have to be prepared for this thing as a means of self defence in terms of a symmetrical type of warfare and hall stone nations that

would purposely cause a pandemic like this. —— hostile nations it's important we be prepared as possible. if that means specialised agencies so be it. if it means routine test, yes, please do. cooperation between nations. we could certainly do a lot better if we pool our resources so that we don't need to be operating independent all across the globe. hopefully this has made us aware and certainly hopefully we will do a lot better next time. joe. certainly hopefully we will do a lot better next time.— better next time. joe, leslie, stay with us. better next time. joe, leslie, stay with us- we _ better next time. joe, leslie, stay with us. we will _ better next time. joe, leslie, stay with us. we will talk _ better next time. joe, leslie, stay with us. we will talk about - better next time. joe, leslie, stay with us. we will talk about much l with us. we will talk about much more including more on trump and those maga air bandages. we will talk about some of those in the next hour for the headlines coming talk about some of those in the next hourfor the headlines coming up next on bbc news. hello.

we've seen some very warm weather today, particularly across the south and the east of the uk. it's been a bit more complicated further north and west with more cloud, a little bit of rain, but tomorrow it will be warmer generally and hot for some of us. we could see the highest temperatures of the year so far, 3i celsius possibly. quite a humid feel as well. thejet stream is running to the north of the uk at the moment, allowing us to bring in this feed of warm and humid airfrom the south. but with that increasing humidity, as we head through tonight, we will see quite a lot of mist, and murk, and low cloud rolling into coasts and hills in the west. today's rain, i think, tending to peter out. the best of the clear skies further south and east. certainly not a cold night — in fact, quite a warm one, temperatures holding up in most places between 13—17 celsius. so, into tomorrow morning, quite a warm start, and where we see that sunshine, the best of it across england and wales, while the temperatures really will start to climb. still some of this mist and murk clinging to western coasts. northern ireland and scotland

generally seeing a bit more in the way of cloud. and this frontal system will start to bring some outbreaks of rain at later. temperatures, though, 22 celsius for aberdeen, 25 celsius for liverpool, 30 celsius in london, somewhere in the southeast likely to get to 31 celsius, so well above the seasonal average. but into friday evening, we will see those misty, murky conditions out towards the west and some outbreaks of rain in northern ireland and western scotland, as this frontal system moves its way in. now this front is going to bring a big change through the weekend. it will eventually bring cooler air from the atlantic, but it looks like this front will take its time to move eastwards, so still a chance across eastern parts of england for some pretty warm weather on saturday. some spells of sunshine here. we may see some sharp showers and thunderstorms erupting as we head through the late afternoon. but out towards the west, our frontal system bringing a slow—moving band of heavy rain. underneath the frontal system and behind it, it is going to turn cooler. so, 18 celsius for plymouth, 16 celsius for belfast. but ahead of that front, i wouldn't be at all surprised if we got up into the high—20s celsius in some parts of eastern england.

however, that weather front will then slide its way northwards and eastwards, and all of us will be in the cooler air for sunday. not a bad day weather—wise — some spells of sunshine, just one or two showers, but temperatures at best between 15—22 celsius.