american politics could be about to be upended as pressure ratchets up onjoe biden to drop out of the presidential race. it's reported that could happen as soon as this weekend.

welcome to newsnight, live on the cusp of what could be an extraordinary 48—72 hours in us politics. american democrats appear to be braced for a decision by us presidentjoe biden, aged 81, and who is currently self—isolating with covid, to drop out of the race for re—election. in a moment, we'll talk to former director of the fbi and biden supporterjames comey, who's here live. nick watt is here as always, and our panel this evening, former bbc washington correspondent nick bryant, author of several books on us politics, democratic strategist and former obama campaign advisor ameshia cross, and live from the republican national convention in wisconsin is delegate angie wong,

who is a conservative commentator — in a few hours�* time, donald trump is due to address supporters there for the first time since the assasination attempt, which will be a huge moment. donald trump is due to address supporters there for the first time since the assasination attempt, which will be a huge moment. we will be familiar with the phrase the big moment. and it seems to be moving decisively against president joe biden, so two big developments today, the washington post is reporting that several people have told them that barack obama has told allies in recent days thatjoe biden�*s path to victory is greatly diminished, and he needs to consider

the viability of his candidacy. the second big thing, a number of top democrats have told axial is that the combination of pressure from democratic congressional leaders and close friends ofjoe biden mean he will be persuaded to decide to drop out of the race as soon as this weekend, the message has been, you stay, donald trump wins in a landslide. nick bryant, isjoe biden going to step down? i don't think this number of senior democrats — i don't think this number of senior democrats would have come out and let it be _ democrats would have come out and let it be known that they are trying to persuade joe biden to drop out of this race _ to persuade joe biden to drop out of this race it_ to persuade joe biden to drop out of this race if they weren't confident he would — this race if they weren't confident he would drop out of this race, they know_ he would drop out of this race, they know the _ he would drop out of this race, they know the damage that this will do to joe biden, _ know the damage that this will do to joe biden, and it is the most senior democrats. — joe biden, and it is the most senior democrats, it is chuck schumer, it is the _ democrats, it is chuck schumer, it is the former— democrats, it is chuck schumer, it is the former president barack obama. — is the former president barack obama, nancy pelosi, it is sometimes said nancy— obama, nancy pelosi, it is sometimes said nancy pelosi can cut off your head _ said nancy pelosi can cut off your head and — said nancy pelosi can cut off your

head and you don't even notice it butjoe _ head and you don't even notice it butjoe biden would have noticed it, she has— butjoe biden would have noticed it, she has allowed this conversation attout— she has allowed this conversation about his — she has allowed this conversation about his age to progress since pretty— about his age to progress since pretty quickly after the debate, and i am pretty quickly after the debate, and i am a _ pretty quickly after the debate, and i am a four— pretty quickly after the debate, and i am a four o'clock correspondence, not a _ i am a four o'clock correspondence, not a clairvoyant, but it now looks as though — not a clairvoyant, but it now looks as though he is being persuaded to have an _ as though he is being persuaded to have an elegant dismount and to leave _ have an elegant dismount and to leave the — have an elegant dismount and to leave the race. ameshia cross, should joe biden step down? i would back whatever decision he would _ i would back whatever decision he would make. _ i would back whatever decision he would make, we _ i would back whatever decision he would make, we have _ i would back whatever decision he would make, we have not - i would back whatever decision he would make, we have not heard l i would back whatever decision he . would make, we have not heard from the current _ would make, we have not heard from the current president, _ would make, we have not heard from the current president, anything - the current president, anything related — the current president, anything related to — the current president, anything related to him _ the current president, anything related to him stepping - the current president, anything related to him stepping down, i the current president, anything. related to him stepping down, in fact we _ related to him stepping down, in fact we have _ related to him stepping down, in fact we have heard _ related to him stepping down, in fact we have heard from - related to him stepping down, in fact we have heard from his - related to him stepping down, in- fact we have heard from his campaign that obviously— fact we have heard from his campaign that obviously he _ fact we have heard from his campaign that obviously he is _ fact we have heard from his campaign that obviously he is recovering - fact we have heard from his campaign that obviously he is recovering from l that obviously he is recovering from covid, _ that obviously he is recovering from covid, he _ that obviously he is recovering from covid, he is — that obviously he is recovering from covid, he is still— that obviously he is recovering from covid, he is still in _ that obviously he is recovering from covid, he is still in this— that obviously he is recovering from covid, he is still in this thing, - covid, he is still in this thing, and _ covid, he is still in this thing, and the — covid, he is still in this thing, and the more _ covid, he is still in this thing, and the more we _ covid, he is still in this thing, and the more we pay- covid, he is still in this thing, i and the more we pay attention covid, he is still in this thing, - and the more we pay attention to conversations— and the more we pay attention to conversations that _ and the more we pay attention to conversations that are _ and the more we pay attention to conversations that are not - and the more we pay attention to conversations that are not even l conversations that are not even first-hand. _ conversations that are not even first-hand. we _ conversations that are not even first—hand, we are _ conversations that are not even first—hand, we are talking - conversations that are not even l first—hand, we are talking second conversations that are not even - first—hand, we are talking second or third or— first—hand, we are talking second or third or fourth, _ first—hand, we are talking second or third or fourth, people _ first—hand, we are talking second or third or fourth, people quoted by. third or fourth, people quoted by newspapers. _ third or fourth, people quoted by newspapers. it— third or fourth, people quoted by newspapers, it is— third or fourth, people quoted by newspapers, it is really- newspapers, it is really frustrating... _ newspapers, it is really frustrating. . ._ newspapers, it is really frustrating... newspapers, it is really frustratina... ., , ., frustrating... not when it comes to some of those _ frustrating... not when it comes to some of those senior _ frustrating... not when it comes to

some of those senior democrats. l some of those senior democrats. media across the globe to release a statement — media across the globe to release a statement the_ media across the globe to release a statement. ~ , , . media across the globe to release a statement. ~' , , ., , statement. the key thing is what is not bein: statement. the key thing is what is not being said _ statement. the key thing is what is not being said here. _ statement. the key thing is what is not being said here. schumer's - not being said here. schumer's spokesman is not saying that story is not true, barack obama's spokesman is not saying that story is not true, and it is also what is not being said, bill clinton is not coming out and saying, this is outrageous we are trying to persuade a sitting president to step aside... so silence is as significant? it is so silence is as significant? it is s-ueakin so silence is as significant? it is speaking volumes. _ so silence is as significant? it is speaking volumes. the - so silence is as significant? it is speaking volumes. the media i so silence is as significant? it isi speaking volumes. the media is so silence is as significant? it is - speaking volumes. the media is also not covering — speaking volumes. the media is also not covering a _ speaking volumes. the media is also not covering a 1400 _ speaking volumes. the media is also not covering a 1400 prominent - speaking volumes. the media is also not covering a 1400 prominent black| not covering a 1400 prominent black women _ not covering a 1400 prominent black women across — not covering a 1400 prominent black women across the _ not covering a 1400 prominent black women across the country, - not covering a 1400 prominent black women across the country, the - not covering a 1400 prominent black women across the country, the firstl women across the country, the first black— women across the country, the first black woman — women across the country, the first black woman senator, _ women across the country, the first black woman senator, 1400 - women across the country, the first black woman senator, 1400 womeni women across the country, the first - black woman senator, 1400 women who signed _ black woman senator, 1400 women who signed on _ black woman senator, 1400 women who signed on to— black woman senator, 1400 women who signed on to a _ black woman senator, 1400 women who signed on to a letter, _ black woman senator, 1400 women who signed on to a letter, putting _ black woman senator, 1400 women who signed on to a letter, putting their- signed on to a letter, putting their names— signed on to a letter, putting their names on— signed on to a letter, putting their names on it. — signed on to a letter, putting their names on it. we _ signed on to a letter, putting their names on it, we are _ signed on to a letter, putting their names on it, we are not— signed on to a letter, putting their names on it, we are not talking i names on it, we are not talking whispers— names on it, we are not talking whispers in— names on it, we are not talking whispers in the _ names on it, we are not talking whispers in the darkness, - names on it, we are not talking l whispers in the darkness, putting their— whispers in the darkness, putting their names — whispers in the darkness, putting their names to _ whispers in the darkness, putting their names to paper— whispers in the darkness, putting their names to paper to- whispers in the darkness, putting their names to paper to say- whispers in the darkness, putting their names to paper to say theyl whispers in the darkness, putting i their names to paper to say they are behind _ their names to paper to say they are behind biden, — their names to paper to say they are behind biden, this— their names to paper to say they are behind biden, this is _ their names to paper to say they are behind biden, this is the _ their names to paper to say they are behind biden, this is the coalition. behind biden, this is the coalition that brought _ behind biden, this is the coalition that brought joe _ behind biden, this is the coalition that broughtjoe biden— behind biden, this is the coalition that brought joe biden to - behind biden, this is the coalition that brought joe biden to the - behind biden, this is the coalition. that brought joe biden to the 2020 election. _ that brought joe biden to the 2020 election. they— that brought joe biden to the 2020 election, they made _ that brought joe biden to the 2020 election, they made sure _

that brought joe biden to the 2020 election, they made sure they- that brought joe biden to the 2020 election, they made sure they goti that brought joe biden to the 2020 i election, they made sure they got to the primaries— election, they made sure they got to the primaries in— election, they made sure they got to the primaries in south— election, they made sure they got to the primaries in south carolina - election, they made sure they got to the primaries in south carolina in - the primaries in south carolina in the primaries in south carolina in the same — the primaries in south carolina in the same coalition— the primaries in south carolina in the same coalition that _ the primaries in south carolina in the same coalition that wants - the primaries in south carolina in the same coalition that wants toi the primaries in south carolina in i the same coalition that wants to see him see _ the same coalition that wants to see him see this — the same coalition that wants to see him see this through, _ the same coalition that wants to see him see this through, it _ the same coalition that wants to see him see this through, it would - the same coalition that wants to see him see this through, it would be i him see this through, it would be abhorrent— him see this through, it would be abhorrent for— him see this through, it would be abhorrent for some _ him see this through, it would be abhorrent for some party - him see this through, it would be abhorrent for some party leads i him see this through, it would be abhorrent for some party leads in him see this through, it would be i abhorrent for some party leads in dc to not— abhorrent for some party leads in dc to not stand — abhorrent for some party leads in dc to not stand by— abhorrent for some party leads in dc to not stand by a _ abhorrent for some party leads in dc to not stand by a ticket _ abhorrent for some party leads in dc to not stand by a ticket where - abhorrent for some party leads in dc to not stand by a ticket where your. to not stand by a ticket where your most _ to not stand by a ticket where your most prominent _ to not stand by a ticket where your most prominent and _ to not stand by a ticket where your most prominent and strongest - to not stand by a ticket where yourl most prominent and strongest base members. — most prominent and strongest base members. voters— most prominent and strongest base members, voters are _ most prominent and strongest base members, voters are saying, - most prominent and strongest base members, voters are saying, we i most prominent and strongest base . members, voters are saying, we want this. angie wong, presumably you wantjoe biden to stay? absolutely! they wanted us to celebrate donald trump's funeral here during this rnc week and instead we will deliver donald trump andjd instead we will deliver donald trump and jd vance in the november ballot, so another biden team have to move him away because they understand that there is no way anyone is excited forjoe biden, they cannot get out to vote for november the 5th, therefore all the candidates are affected, so all those congressional seats in senator seats and even state seats on the ballot

in november, they will soften if the dnc does not get it right now, they will lose for generations to come because if the white house, the house of congress and senate take over as republican, we will sweep and make sure that the laws are in place for years to come. 50. and make sure that the laws are in place for years to come.— place for years to come. so, nick, is that the — place for years to come. so, nick, is that the fear _ place for years to come. so, nick, is that the fear from _ place for years to come. so, nick, is that the fear from the _ place for years to come. so, nick, l is that the fear from the democrats, it will be a total wipe—out ifjoe biden stays? it will be a total wipe-out ifjoe biden stays?— it will be a total wipe-out ifjoe biden sta s? ., , , ., biden stays? that is the case that has been presented _ biden stays? that is the case that has been presented to _ biden stays? that is the case that has been presented to joe - biden stays? that is the case that has been presented to joe biden i biden stays? that is the case thatl has been presented to joe biden at has been presented tojoe biden at the moment. in very forceful terms by chuci

forjoe _ few hours and have said it is time forjoe biden to put the aviator shades— forjoe biden to put the aviator shades on, get in his corvette and drive _ shades on, get in his corvette and drive off— shades on, get in his corvette and drive off into the sunset, there is an awful— drive off into the sunset, there is an awful lot— drive off into the sunset, there is an awful lot of respect and affection forjudge joe biden in this process, but i think they are telling _ this process, but i think they are telling him — this process, but i think they are telling him very clearly, it is time to step _ telling him very clearly, it is time to step aside. joe biden himself has shifted his poisition on his position in recent weeks — have a look. they told me to get out of the race. 14 million people voted for me to be the nominee. in the democratic party. 0k? the nominee. in the democratic party. ok? i the nominee. in the democratic party. 0k? iam the nominee. in the democratic party. ok? i am listening to them. is there anything that you would look too — is there anything that you would look too personally, not anybody else, _ look too personally, not anybody else, not — look too personally, not anybody else, not other pundits or even perhaps— else, not other pundits or even perhaps family members, that you would _ perhaps family members, that you would look to to say, if i see that, iwill— would look to to say, if i see that, i will re—evaluate? if would look to to say, if i see that, i will re-evaluate?_ would look to to say, if i see that, i will re-evaluate? if some medical condition emerged, _ i will re-evaluate? if some medical

condition emerged, if _ i will re-evaluate? if some medical condition emerged, if doctor - i will re-evaluate? if some medical condition emerged, if doctor said l i will re-evaluate? if some medical condition emerged, if doctor said i | condition emerged, if doctor said i had this problem with that problem. live on newsnight now, former director of the fbi james comey — he worked under president obama and president trump until mr trump sacked him. this is your first broadcast interview since you endorsed joe biden for this upcoming election. do you still think he should be the democratic candidate? i you still think he should be the democratic candidate?- you still think he should be the democratic candidate? i don't think ou should democratic candidate? i don't think you should be- _ democratic candidate? i don't think you should be. given _ democratic candidate? i don't think you should be. given all— democratic candidate? i don't think you should be. given all we - democratic candidate? i don't think you should be. given all we have i you should be. given all we have seenin you should be. given all we have seen in recent weeks, he should give way with the words of the play hamilton, he should teach us how to say goodbye, he did an incredible thing, running for office in 2020, great sacrifice, it is time for a new generation. i great sacrifice, it is time for a new generation.— great sacrifice, it is time for a new generation. great sacrifice, it is time for a new veneration. ., ., , ., new generation. i want to show you some images _ new generation. i want to show you some images of— new generation. i want to show you some images of mr _ new generation. i want to show you some images of mr biden _ new generation. i want to show you some images of mr biden from - some images of mr biden from yesterday after he had been diagnosed with covid, and i want you to talk us through what you see here. because it was not that long ago that you were endorsing him so i

wonder what it is you are seeing that has changed your mind? yes, please, let us see him now. how are you feeling? mr president, how do you feel? how do you feel? do you have symptoms? what do you see her? ic pattern with elderly parents _ what do you see her? ic pattern with elderly parents are _ what do you see her? ic pattern with elderly parents are seen, _ what do you see her? ic pattern with elderly parents are seen, i _ what do you see her? ic pattern with elderly parents are seen, i saw- what do you see her? ic pattern with elderly parents are seen, i saw it - elderly parents are seen, i saw it with my own dad in his 80s, people age in decline and especially in thatjob they do, so what i see breaks my heart but that is life right there, and i think thatjoe biden and his family need to acknowledge that. he rendered us an extraordinary service.— extraordinary service. should it be his decision? _ extraordinary service. should it be his decision? it _ extraordinary service. should it be his decision? it is _ extraordinary service. should it be his decision? it is his _ extraordinary service. should it be his decision? it is his decision, - his decision? it is his decision, and i his decision? it is his decision, and i am _ his decision? it is his decision, and i am no —

his decision? it is his decision, and i am no expert— his decision? it is his decision, and i am no expert at - his decision? it is his decision, i and i am no expert at democratic politics, but surely it is made with his family members, as these hard decisions about how a parent should be treated when they want to continue driving they can't any more, but also with the advice of those closest to him who are not family members. is it those closest to him who are not family members.— those closest to him who are not family members. is it hard for you to this publicly? _ family members. is it hard for you to this publicly? it _ family members. is it hard for you to this publicly? it is _ to this publicly? it is heartbreaking. - to this publicly? it is heartbreaking. we l to this publicly? it is l heartbreaking. we will to this publicly? it is - heartbreaking. we will all to this publicly? it 3 heartbreaking. we will all get to be old people, god willing, and we will all experience this to some measure, many of us have seen it with parents, it is a natural part of life, i wish we had seen it more clearly before the debate but the joe biden that i see today and that we saw in that debate is dramatically different from the joe biden dramatically different from thejoe biden i dramatically different from the joe biden i last was dramatically different from thejoe biden i last was in a room with in january 2017. biden i last was in a room with in january 2011— biden i last was in a room with in january 2017. you have also been a republican — january 2017. you have also been a republican for— january 2017. you have also been a republican for most _ january 2017. you have also been a republican for most of— january 2017. you have also been a republican for most of your - january 2017. you have also been a republican for most of your life, i republican for most of your life, you say you did not leave the party but the party left you, there is huge to donald trump addressing the republican national convention in a few hours, the first time most people have heard from him since

that attempted assassination, how would you describe the current republican party? i would you describe the current republican party?— would you describe the current republican party? i don't recognise it, ithink republican party? i don't recognise it, i think it— republican party? i don't recognise it, i think it is— republican party? i don't recognise it, | think it is a — republican party? i don't recognise it, i think it is a cult _ republican party? i don't recognise it, i think it is a cult at _ republican party? i don't recognise it, i think it is a cult at this - it, i think it is a cult at this point, it is not about principles but about a person that is in a very unhealthy place to be and the american people need to decide whether they want but going forward, and i don't think they do, i think another candidate could offer the american people a new leaf turned over. ., , , ., . over. you 'ust used the word cult, ou over. you just used the word cult, you believe _ over. you just used the word cult, you believe that? _ over. you just used the word cult, you believe that? i _ over. you just used the word cult, you believe that? i do. _ over. you just used the word cult, you believe that? i do. occult- over. you just used the word cult, you believe that? i do. occult is. you believe that? i do. occult is something _ you believe that? i do. occult is something centred _ you believe that? i do. occult is something centred around - you believe that? i do. occult is- something centred around devotion to the leader, and the republican party stands for adherence to the leader's wishes in ways i never could have predicted eight years ago or ten years ago, it is just a fact. what years ago, it is 'ust a fact. what do ou years ago, it is 'ust a fact. what do you think — years ago, it is 'ust a fact. what do you think a _ years ago, it isjust a fact. what do you think a potential- years ago, it isjust a fact. what do you think a potential second trump presidency would be like? titer? trump presidency would be like? very difficult and trump presidency would be like? - difficult and painful for americans who difficult and painfulfor americans who care about the rule of law to watch especially, you can't trust his promises but when he makes a

threat he follows through because otherwise he thinks he would look weak so his threats to use the law to go after his enemies should be taken very seriously, this is a man, we are glossing over this today with so much going on in our world, he incited an attack on the us capitol to interrupt the constitutional process of the united states transfer of power, so in a second term where he has fewer guardrails and fewer competent people around him, while! about! and fewer competent people around him, while! . i. , .,, him, while! and you were smiling as ou said him, while! and you were smiling as you said that. _ him, while! and you were smiling as you said that, this _ him, while! and you were smiling as you said that, this is _ him, while! and you were smiling as you said that, this is a _ him, while! and you were smiling as you said that, this is a man - him, while! and you were smiling as you said that, this is a man who - him, while! and you were smiling as you said that, this is a man who you| you said that, this is a man who you believe incited what happened on the 6th of january, believe incited what happened on the 6th ofjanuary, it believe incited what happened on the 6th of january, it sounds like you can hardly believe you are saying those words out loud, that it actually happened. it those words out loud, that it actually happened. it sounds like fiction. if actually happened. it sounds like fiction- if i _ actually happened. it sounds like fiction. if i put _ actually happened. it sounds like fiction. if | put that _ actually happened. it sounds like fiction. if i put that in _ actually happened. it sounds like fiction. if i put that in a - actually happened. it sounds like fiction. if i put that in a novel - fiction. if i put that in a novel proposal it would get rejected, come on, you aren't serious that a president who lost an election in light of the american people about it and then ginned up his followers to attack the capital and may be to

hang his own vice president? that would be rejected but it is the life we have lived in america, they should not be any low information voters in america, just go watch the youtube videos of the 6th of january, watch the interviews with former cabinet members who say this dude should never be near the oval office again, go watch that tape and then make a decision about what you want for america. it then make a decision about what you want for america.— want for america. if you wince, could he come _ want for america. if you wince, could he come after— want for america. if you wince, could he come after you? - want for america. if you wince, | could he come after you? sure. want for america. if you wince, - could he come after you? sure. he s-ent could he come after you? sure. he spent four— could he come after you? sure. he spent four years — could he come after you? sure. he spent four years trying _ could he come after you? sure. he spent four years trying to - could he come after you? sure. he spent four years trying to come - spent four years trying to come after me, i think i got a tax refund, i worry less about me because i have the resources to defend myself, i worry about the civil servants, the agents who cross him and then feel the weight of the justice department doing his willing. in justice department doing his willina. , , _ willing. in the presidency, when he won in 2016, _ willing. in the presidency, when he won in 2016, he _ willing. in the presidency, when he won in 2016, he said _ willing. in the presidency, when he won in 2016, he said a _ willing. in the presidency, when he won in 2016, he said a lot - willing. in the presidency, when he won in 2016, he said a lot of - won in 2016, he said a lot of outrageous things, some of the things he did, there was a big gap between the actions and the rhetoric, for example, when he was

president, he urged nato members to up president, he urged nato members to up their spending, he committed more troops to nato, he increased spending to nato, he spent the first javelins to ukraine. it could be the same again? i javelins to ukraine. it could be the same again?— javelins to ukraine. it could be the same again? i expect it would, you can't trust — same again? i expect it would, you can't trust his _ same again? i expect it would, you can't trust his promises, _ same again? i expect it would, you can't trust his promises, mexico, i can't trust his promises, mexico, maybe they will pay for the wall again, but my worry is about the erosion of the rule of law in the us, again, a man who attacked the us capital and incited a mob to do that will be president again, we can't have that amnesia in america. and will be president again, we can't have that amnesia in america. and of course some — have that amnesia in america. and of course some will— have that amnesia in america. and of course some will say, _ have that amnesia in america. and of course some will say, of— have that amnesia in america. and of course some will say, of course - have that amnesia in america. and of course some will say, of course you i course some will say, of course you will say this, the guy sacked you, you are a bitter man. i will say this, the guy sacked you, you are a bitter man.— you are a bitter man. i am not a bitter man. _ you are a bitter man. i am not a bitter man, he _ you are a bitter man. i am not a bitter man, he did _ you are a bitter man. i am not a bitter man, he did me - you are a bitter man. i am not a bitter man, he did me a - bitter man, he did me a great personal favour. bitter man, he did me a great personalfavour. br; bitter man, he did me a great personal favour.— bitter man, he did me a great personal favour. by sacking you? seriously? _ personal favour. by sacking you? seriously? my — personal favour. by sacking you? seriously? my life _ personal favour. by sacking you? seriously? my life has _ personal favour. by sacking you? seriously? my life has been - personal favour. by sacking you? seriously? my life has been so i personal favour. by sacking you? - seriously? my life has been so much better, my relationship with my family, transformed by not being fbi director, i believe not being with the men and women of that organisation, trying to stand up for

the rule of law. you organisation, trying to stand up for the rule of law.— organisation, trying to stand up for the rule of law. you picked jd vance who said this _ the rule of law. you picked jd vance who said this about _ the rule of law. you picked jd vance who said this about ukraine, - the rule of law. you picked jd vance who said this about ukraine, have i the rule of law. you picked jd vance who said this about ukraine, have a | who said this about ukraine, have a look. we have a leadership in this country that is focused on stuff that has nothing to do with the citizens of our country, has nothing to do with serving the middle—class citizens of my state of ohio or all across this country. and ladies and gentlemen, it's just time to stop. i'm sick of it. i'm sick of being told that we have to care more about people 6000 miles away than we do people like my mom and my grandparents and all the kids who are affected by this crisis. cheering and applause. what do you think of that? he is a smart au what do you think of that? he is a smart guy but _ what do you think of that? he is a smart guy but he does _ what do you think of that? he is a smart guy but he does not - what do you think of that? he is a smart guy but he does not know. what do you think of that? he is a i smart guy but he does not know what he is talking about. whenever he gets the intelligence briefings at the current speaker got, he will think differently about the threat russia opposes in ukraine and beyond. ! russia opposes in ukraine and be ond. . , , russia opposes in ukraine and be ond. ., , , ., russia opposes in ukraine and be ond. ., i, ., . ., beyond. i really believe that. what was our beyond. i really believe that. what was your response _ beyond. i really believe that. what was your response to _ beyond. i really believe that. what was your response to the - beyond. i really believe that. what. was your response to the attempted assassination of donald trump? full of horror as — assassination of donald trump? full of horror as a citizen that such violence could be directed at a

public figure and we have lived that in america in my lifetime and horror at the idea we might be going back to it and then i was absolutely mystified at the security failure that appeared to be represented by that appeared to be represented by that attack. horst that appeared to be represented by that attack. ., .., that appeared to be represented by that attack. ., _, ., ., , , that attack. how could that happen? i do not that attack. how could that happen? i do rrot know _ that attack. how could that happen? i do not know and _ that attack. how could that happen? i do not know and we _ that attack. how could that happen? i do not know and we ought - that attack. how could that happen? i do not know and we ought to i that attack. how could that happen? i do not know and we ought to know| i do not know and we ought to know the answer, the american people ought to know the answer quickly. it is an appalling failure of security and i don't want to jump to conclusions as to who did what but we should know that fast. let conclusions as to who did what but we should know that fast.- conclusions as to who did what but we should know that fast. let me ask ou about we should know that fast. let me ask you about your— we should know that fast. let me ask you about your book, _ we should know that fast. let me ask you about your book, it _ we should know that fast. let me ask you about your book, it draws - we should know that fast. let me ask you about your book, it draws on i you about your book, it draws on real—life experiences. what do you want the readers to take from it? i want the readers to take from it? i want the readers to take from it? i want them to have a break from some of the things you have talk about on your programme, this is a whodunnit that will transport you to the world of an elite hedge fund and it is a great summer read and we need that break was white referred one is already written, will that be topical by the time it is out? it is about white supremacist violence and

domestic extremism in the united states so i am confident it will still be an issue in my beloved, messed up country.— still be an issue in my beloved, messed up country. thank you for talkin: to messed up country. thank you for talking to us- _ messed up country. thank you for talking to us. thank— messed up country. thank you for talking to us. thank you. - messed up country. thank you for talking to us. thank you. nick, i messed up country. thank you for talking to us. thank you. nick, in| talking to us. thank you. nick, in terms of what might happen next and what james comey has terms of what might happen next and whatjames comey has said terms of what might happen next and what james comey has said clearly about what president biden should do, what do you say?— about what president biden should do, what do you say? firstly, let us take stock of what _ do, what do you say? firstly, let us take stock of what james _ do, what do you say? firstly, let us take stock of what james comey i do, what do you say? firstly, let us. take stock of what james comey said in the last few minutes, those words will be felt across the atlantic. which was that the attempted assassination of donald trump was the result of an appalling failure of the secret services and the security communities and that will be heard across the atlantic. also, very intervention byjames comey thatjoe biden should not be the democratic nominee in this november election but james democratic nominee in this november election butjames comey democratic nominee in this november election but james comey is sounding heartbroken as he said that because thatis heartbroken as he said that because

that is purely on the basis ofjoe biden's age but clearly he is worried thatjoe biden is on a ticket and that increases the chances of donald trump. what i heard is what _ chances of donald trump. what i heard is what you _ chances of donald trump. what i heard is what you hear _ chances of donald trump. what i heard is what you hear from i chances of donald trump. what i heard is what you hear from so i chances of donald trump. what i i heard is what you hear from so many people _ heard is what you hear from so many people who _ heard is what you hear from so many people who work closely with donald trump _ people who work closely with donald trump which is a warning, you cannot let this _ trump which is a warning, you cannot let this guy— trump which is a warning, you cannot let this guy back into the white house — let this guy back into the white house. james comey was a former director— house. james comey was a former director of— house. james comey was a former director of the fbi, chairman of the joint chiefs — director of the fbi, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff described donald — joint chiefs of staff described donald trump as a wannabe dictator. mike pence. — donald trump as a wannabe dictator. mike pence, his own vice president, will not _ mike pence, his own vice president, will not endorse him. the people who work closely — will not endorse him. the people who work closely with trump are sounding the alarm _ work closely with trump are sounding the alarm but this guy cannot be allowed — the alarm but this guy cannot be allowed back into the oval office. ifjoe _ allowed back into the oval office. ifjoe biden drops out, what happens?— ifjoe biden drops out, what ha ens? . , , happens? there have been reports that if he were _ happens? there have been reports that if he were to _ happens? there have been reports that if he were to step _ happens? there have been reports that if he were to step aside, i happens? there have been reports that if he were to step aside, he i that if he were to step aside, he would want it to be an orderly transition. and the one way to guarantee that it is to have his

vice president, kamala harris, take over the top place on the ticket. let's look at some of the runners and riders. if we look at that we can see that we do have kamala harris at the top of the graphic and the reason for that is that it would make it so much easier, the money could go to her. they need to get a move on because you need to have legal certainty to get onto the ballot in ohio by the 7th of august. interestingly, today kamala harris is widely seen to have had a very good few weeks after that rather poor debate by the president. she was in north carolina today, that is a red state, but it has a democratic governor. roy cooper, the governor, maybe he and she could be the dream ticket for the democrats. but it is not long ago thatjoe biden was quoted in a book saying that kamala harris is a work in progress. so

maybe we are looking at other candidates. going back to the graphic, i am candidates. going back to the graphic, iam not candidates. going back to the graphic, i am not making a political point here but if you look on the left you will see gretchen whitmer, the governor of michigan. she was considered forjoe biden in 2020 as one of his vice presidential candidates and has been talked about multiple times as a potential presidential candidate. we moved with the centre, not making a political point and we can see michelle obama, always talked about as a candidate and she always says thatis as a candidate and she always says that is the last thing i want to do. she is having too good of a time in her life. �* she is having too good of a time in her life. . ,., her life. and then gavin newsom, the matinee idol— her life. and then gavin newsom, the matinee idol governor _ her life. and then gavin newsom, the matinee idol governor of california. i matinee idol governor of california. could the democrats be doomed either way? could the democrats be doomed either wa ? ., ., ,., , could the democrats be doomed either wa? ., �* way? one of the reasons joe biden has sta ed way? one of the reasons joe biden has stayed in _ way? one of the reasons joe biden has stayed in the _ way? one of the reasons joe biden has stayed in the race _ way? one of the reasons joe biden has stayed in the race for- way? one of the reasons joe biden has stayed in the race for so i way? one of the reasons joe biden has stayed in the race for so long l has stayed in the race for so long as all— has stayed in the race for so long as all of— has stayed in the race for so long as all of the — has stayed in the race for so long as all of the possible alternatives have drawbacks. kamala harris would face racism _ have drawbacks. kamala harris would face racism and misogyny, when she

read herself— face racism and misogyny, when she read herself in 2019 she did not even _ read herself in 2019 she did not even make it into 2020 because she was such— even make it into 2020 because she was such a _ even make it into 2020 because she was such a poor candidate and gavin newsom _ was such a poor candidate and gavin newsom looks presidential, like he was born— newsom looks presidential, like he was born to run, but the governor of california, _ was born to run, but the governor of california, look at what is happening in los angeles and san francisco — happening in los angeles and san francisco with the homeless problem and he _ francisco with the homeless problem and he used to be the mayor of san francisco _ and he used to be the mayor of san francisco a — and he used to be the mayor of san francisco. a liberal democratic mayor— francisco. a liberal democratic mayor from san francisco cannot win the rust— mayor from san francisco cannot win the rust belt states or mainstream america _ the rust belt states or mainstream america. all of these alternatives have _ america. all of these alternatives have problems, and as for michelle obama. _ have problems, and as for michelle obama. we — have problems, and as for michelle obama, we are playing fantasy politics — obama, we are playing fantasy politics. she did not even want your husband _ politics. she did not even want your husband to— politics. she did not even want your husband to run originally. how would donald trump _ husband to run originally. how would donald trump fight _ husband to run originally. how would donald trump fight kamala _ husband to run originally. how would donald trump fight kamala harris? i | donald trump fight kamala harris? i will ask angie wong in a moment. what do you think? i will ask angie wong in a moment. what do you think?— will ask angie wong in a moment. what do you think? i think... trump is oh in: what do you think? i think... trump is playing it — what do you think? i think... trump is playing it smart — what do you think? i think... trump is playing it smart at _ what do you think? i think... trump is playing it smart at the _ what do you think? i think... trump is playing it smart at the moment. i | is playing it smart at the moment. i was going _ is playing it smart at the moment. i was going to say he would ridicule

her, was going to say he would ridicule her. he _ was going to say he would ridicule her, he would do the dog whistle around _ her, he would do the dog whistle around race. but trump has been quite _ around race. but trump has been quite smart— around race. but trump has been quite smart ever since those first five minutes of that debate with joe biden, _ five minutes of that debate with joe biden, he _ five minutes of that debate with joe biden, he could have to hammer him and go _ biden, he could have to hammer him and go for— biden, he could have to hammer him and go for the jugular and he realised _ and go for the jugular and he realised he did not have to because joe biden— realised he did not have to because joe biden was inflicting self—harm and that— joe biden was inflicting self—harm and that he disappeared for two weeks _ and that he disappeared for two weeks whether democrats were absolutely imploding and he has played _ absolutely imploding and he has played the aftermath the assassination, this talk about unity, — assassination, this talk about unity, from such a deliberately polarising figure, he has played it pretty— polarising figure, he has played it pretty smart. polarising figure, he has played it pretty smart-— polarising figure, he has played it pretty smart. polarising figure, he has played it re smart. . . ., ., pretty smart. angie wong, we can go back to ou pretty smart. angie wong, we can go back to you at — pretty smart. angie wong, we can go back to you at the _ pretty smart. angie wong, we can go back to you at the republican - back to you at the republican national convention. i would back to you at the republican national convention. iwould donald trump fight kamala harris? == hi trump fight kamala harris? -- hi word? he — trump fight kamala harris? -- hi word? he has— trump fight kamala harris? -- hi word? he has said _ trump fight kamala harris? -- hi word? he has said that _ trump fight kamala harris? -- hi word? he has said that he i trump fight kamala harris? -- hi word? he has said that he is i trump fight kamala harris? —— hi word? he has said that he is looking forward _ word? he has said that he is looking forward to— word? he has said that he is looking forward to having _ word? he has said that he is looking forward to having kamala _ word? he has said that he is looking forward to having kamala harris i word? he has said that he is looking forward to having kamala harris as i word? he has said that he is lookingi forward to having kamala harris as a potential— forward to having kamala harris as a potential running _ forward to having kamala harris as a potential running candidate - forward to having kamala harris as a potential running candidate to - forward to having kamala harris as a potential running candidate to run i potential running candidate to run against _ potential running candidate to run against and — potential running candidate to run against and that _ potential running candidate to run against and that would _ potential running candidate to run against and that would be - potential running candidate to run against and that would be an i against and that would be an easy win. against and that would be an easy win i_ against and that would be an easy win~ i am — against and that would be an easy win~ i am not _ against and that would be an easy win. i am not sure _ against and that would be an easy win. i am not sure even— against and that would be an easy win. i am not sure even that i against and that would be an easy. win. i am not sure even that kamala harris _ win. i am not sure even that kamala harris want — win. i am not sure even that kamala harris want to — win. i am not sure even that kamala harris want to be _ win. i am not sure even that kamala harris want to be on _

win. i am not sure even that kamala harris want to be on the _ win. i am not sure even that kamala harris want to be on the top - win. i am not sure even that kamala harris want to be on the top of the i harris want to be on the top of the ticket _ harris want to be on the top of the ticket because _ harris want to be on the top of the ticket because we _ harris want to be on the top of the ticket because we are _ harris want to be on the top of the ticket because we are just - harris want to be on the top of the ticket because we are just out i harris want to be on the top of the ticket because we are just out of. ticket because we are just out of time _ ticket because we are just out of time one — ticket because we are just out of time one point— ticket because we are just out of time. one point to— ticket because we are just out of time. one point to note - ticket because we are just out of time. one point to note is - ticket because we are just out of time. one point to note is the i ticket because we are just out of. time. one point to note is the dmc will push _ time. one point to note is the dmc will push up — time. one point to note is the dmc will push up its _ time. one point to note is the dmc will push up its roll— time. one point to note is the dmc will push up its roll call— time. one point to note is the dmc will push up its roll call to - will push up its roll call to nominate _ will push up its roll call to nominate a _ will push up its roll call to nominate a presidential. will push up its roll call to - nominate a presidential candidate two days— nominate a presidential candidate two days after— nominate a presidential candidate two days after the _ nominate a presidential candidate two days after the convention i nominate a presidential candidate two days after the convention is i two days after the convention is over _ two days after the convention is over and — two days after the convention is over. and that _ two days after the convention is over. and that is _ two days after the convention is over. and that is because - two days after the convention is over. and that is because joe i two days after the convention is i over. and that is because joe biden cannot— over. and that is because joe biden cannot get— over. and that is because joe biden cannot get off — over. and that is because joe biden cannot get off the _ over. and that is because joe biden cannot get off the nomination i over. and that is because joe biden. cannot get off the nomination before he is nominated _ cannot get off the nomination before he is nominated to pass _ cannot get off the nomination before he is nominated to pass on - cannot get off the nomination before he is nominated to pass on the - cannot get off the nomination before | he is nominated to pass on the baton unless_ he is nominated to pass on the baton unless he _ he is nominated to pass on the baton unless he is— he is nominated to pass on the baton unless he is very— he is nominated to pass on the baton unless he is very sick _ he is nominated to pass on the baton unless he is very sick and _ he is nominated to pass on the baton unless he is very sick and would - unless he is very sick and would have _ unless he is very sick and would have to — unless he is very sick and would have to but _ unless he is very sick and would have to but the _ unless he is very sick and would have to but the larger— unless he is very sick and would have to but the larger questionl have to but the larger question is, if he _ have to but the larger question is, if he is _ have to but the larger question is, if he is not — have to but the larger question is, if he is not well— have to but the larger question is, if he is not well enough _ have to but the larger question is, if he is not well enough to - have to but the larger question is, if he is not well enough to even i have to but the larger question is, | if he is not well enough to even be on the _ if he is not well enough to even be on the ballot — if he is not well enough to even be on the ballot for _ if he is not well enough to even be on the ballot for november, is - if he is not well enough to even be on the ballot for november, is he i on the ballot for november, is he well enough — on the ballot for november, is he well enough today— on the ballot for november, is he well enough today to _ on the ballot for november, is he well enough today to be - on the ballot for november, is he| well enough today to be president on the ballot for november, is he i well enough today to be president of the united _ well enough today to be president of the united states? _ well enough today to be president of the united states? he _ well enough today to be president of the united states? he will— well enough today to be president of the united states? he will have - the united states? he will have to make _ the united states? he will have to make major— the united states? he will have to make major moves _ the united states? he will have to make major moves to _ the united states? he will have to make major moves to move - the united states? he will have to make major moves to move him . the united states? he will have to i make major moves to move him out entirely~ _ make major moves to move him out entirely~ if— make major moves to move him out entirely~ if he — make major moves to move him out entirely. if he steps— make major moves to move him out entirely. if he steps down _ make major moves to move him out entirely. if he steps down from - make major moves to move him out entirely. if he steps down from the. entirely. if he steps down from the presidential— entirely. if he steps down from the presidential race, _ entirely. if he steps down from the presidential race, he _ entirely. if he steps down from the presidential race, he has— entirely. if he steps down from the presidential race, he has to - entirely. if he steps down from the presidential race, he has to resign| presidential race, he has to resign as president? _ presidential race, he has to resign as president? i_ presidential race, he has to resign as president? i think— presidential race, he has to resign as president? i think that - presidential race, he has to resign as president? i think that will- presidential race, he has to resign as president? i think that will be i as president? i think that will be the major question. _ as president? i think that will be the major question. if— as president? i think that will be the major question. if you - as president? i think that will be the major question. if you are i as president? i think that will be i the major question. if you are not well enough — the major question. if you are not well enough to _ the major question. if you are not well enough to run _ the major question. if you are not well enough to run for— the major question. if you are not well enough to run for the - the major question. if you are not. well enough to run for the president of the _ well enough to run for the president of the united — well enough to run for the president of the united states, _ well enough to run for the president of the united states, are _ well enough to run for the president of the united states, are you - well enough to run for the president of the united states, are you well. of the united states, are you well enough _ of the united states, are you well enough today _ of the united states, are you well enough today to _ of the united states, are you well enough today to run _ of the united states, are you well enough today to run the - of the united states, are you well enough today to run the country? 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enough today to run the country? . clearly he is not. we have seen that with our— clearly he is not. we have seen that with our own — clearly he is not. we have seen that with our own eyes, _ clearly he is not. we have seen that with our own eyes, he _ clearly he is not. we have seen that with our own eyes, he will - clearly he is not. we have seen that with our own eyes, he will have - clearly he is not. we have seen that with our own eyes, he will have to l with our own eyes, he will have to step down — with our own eyes, he will have to step down from _ with our own eyes, he will have to step down from the _ with our own eyes, he will have to step down from the presidency for this to _ step down from the presidency for this to work. — step down from the presidency for this to work. i_ step down from the presidency for this to work, i cannot _ step down from the presidency for this to work, i cannotjust, - step down from the presidency for this to work, i cannot just, he - this to work, i cannotjust, he cannot— this to work, i cannotjust, he cannot pull— this to work, i cannotjust, he cannot pull calvin _ this to work, i cannotjust, he cannot pull calvin coolidge i this to work, i cannot just, he i cannot pull calvin coolidge and this to work, i cannot just, he - cannot pull calvin coolidge and say i will cannot pull calvin coolidge and say i will work— cannot pull calvin coolidge and say i will work out _ cannot pull calvin coolidge and say i will work out the _ cannot pull calvin coolidge and say i will work out the rest _ cannot pull calvin coolidge and say i will work out the rest of - cannot pull calvin coolidge and say i will work out the rest of my- cannot pull calvin coolidge and say i will work out the rest of my term | i will work out the rest of my term and then— i will work out the rest of my term and then goodbye. _ i will work out the rest of my term and then goodbye. he _ i will work out the rest of my term and then goodbye. he will- i will work out the rest of my term and then goodbye. he will have i i will work out the rest of my term and then goodbye. he will have toj and then goodbye. he will have to step down— and then goodbye. he will have to step down as _ and then goodbye. he will have to step down as president _ and then goodbye. he will have to step down as president and - and then goodbye. he will have to step down as president and we - and then goodbye. he will have to i step down as president and we might be expecting — step down as president and we might be expecting that— step down as president and we might be expecting that an _ step down as president and we might be expecting that an announcement i be expecting that an announcement any day _ be expecting that an announcement any day lllie— be expecting that an announcement an da . ~ , ~ be expecting that an announcement an da . ~ , s , be expecting that an announcement an da . ~ , . , . , any day. we will see. while this has been aroin any day. we will see. while this has been going on. _ any day. we will see. while this has been going on. in — any day. we will see. while this has been going on, in this _ any day. we will see. while this has been going on, in this country, - been going on, in this country, european leaders have been discussing what a second trump presidency might mean for the conflict in ukraine and we heard james comey responding to whatjd vance said about the conflict. what has been happening at blenheim palace? ~ ., has been happening at blenheim palace? ~ . . , has been happening at blenheim palace? ~ . ., .,, ., palace? ukraine was top of the arenda palace? ukraine was top of the agenda of _ palace? ukraine was top of the agenda of this _ palace? ukraine was top of the agenda of this group _ palace? ukraine was top of the agenda of this group set - palace? ukraine was top of the agenda of this group set up - palace? ukraine was top of the agenda of this group set up by| agenda of this group set up by emmanuel macron after the russian invasion so that europe could get its act together and it has eu leaders but other leaders across the european continent who are not members of the eu, including the uk. listen to what keir starmer said, he said we need to be clear that ukraine is fighting notjust for the

ukrainian people, and of course it is, but for the european people, for freedom, democracy and the rule of law. the last few minutes downing street announced that volodymyr zelensky will be addressing what is described as an extraordinary meeting of the uk cabinet in downing street tomorrow. this will be the first overseas leader to do and in person address to the cabinet since bill clinton in 1997. at blenheim palace the bbc�*s political editor chris mason caught up with volodymyr zelensky and he put to the president, president trump's current thinking on ukraine. donald trump said last year that he thought this war could end within 2a hours if he was to meet both you and vladimir putin. what did you make of that? so... everybody will be happy if one person in the world... it doesn't depend,

donald trump or not... 0k, donald trump. if one person in the world, and this person is donald trump, can stop the war during 2a hours. the question is, what is the price and who will pay? angie wong, that was president zelensky. doubting whether that war could be ended in 2a hours, which donald trump has said, that he asks what is the price and who will pay. what is the answer?— what is the price and who will pay. what is the answer? remember, boris johnson 'ust what is the answer? remember, boris johnson just had _ what is the answer? remember, boris johnson just had a _ what is the answer? remember, boris johnson just had a visit _ what is the answer? remember, boris johnson just had a visit with _ johnson just had a visit with president _ johnson just had a visit with president trump _ johnson just had a visit with president trump here - johnson just had a visit with president trump here in - johnson just had a visit with - president trump here in milwaukee and the _ president trump here in milwaukee and the nren — president trump here in milwaukee and the men met— president trump here in milwaukee and the men met in— president trump here in milwaukee and the men met in a _ president trump here in milwaukee and the men met in a hotel- president trump here in milwaukee and the men met in a hotel suite, i and the men met in a hotel suite, what _ and the men met in a hotel suite, what were — and the men met in a hotel suite, what were they _ and the men met in a hotel suite, what were they discussing? - and the men met in a hotel suite, i what were they discussing? ukraine. so there _ what were they discussing? ukraine. so there is— what were they discussing? ukraine. so there is an— what were they discussing? ukraine. so there is an understanding - what were they discussing? ukraine. so there is an understanding that - so there is an understanding that president — so there is an understanding that president trump _ so there is an understanding that president trump want _ so there is an understanding that president trump want to - so there is an understanding that president trump want to end - so there is an understanding that president trump want to end the | so there is an understanding that - president trump want to end the war in ukraine _ president trump want to end the war in ukraine on— president trump want to end the war in ukraine on day— president trump want to end the war in ukraine on day one, _ president trump want to end the war in ukraine on day one, that- president trump want to end the war in ukraine on day one, that is- president trump want to end the war in ukraine on day one, that is top- in ukraine on day one, that is top of his— in ukraine on day one, that is top of his agenda _ in ukraine on day one, that is top of his agenda. but _ in ukraine on day one, that is top of his agenda-—

in ukraine on day one, that is top of his agenda._ other i in ukraine on day one, that is top - of his agenda._ other forces of his agenda. but how? other forces are at play--- — of his agenda. but how? other forces are at play... president _ of his agenda. but how? other forces are at play... president trump - of his agenda. but how? other forces are at play... president trump is - are at play... president trump is probably— are at play... president trump is probably the _ are at play... president trump is probably the only _ are at play... president trump is probably the only guy— are at play... president trump is probably the only guy who - are at play... president trump is probably the only guy who can i are at play... president trump is l probably the only guy who can pick up probably the only guy who can pick up the _ probably the only guy who can pick up the phone — probably the only guy who can pick up the phone and _ probably the only guy who can pick up the phone and call— probably the only guy who can pick up the phone and call president. up the phone and call president putin— up the phone and call president putin and — up the phone and call president putin and have _ up the phone and call president putin and have those _ up the phone and call president- putin and have those conversations. everyone _ putin and have those conversations. everyone is — putin and have those conversations. everyone is so— putin and have those conversations. everyone is so scared _ putin and have those conversations. everyone is so scared to _ putin and have those conversations. everyone is so scared to talk- putin and have those conversations. everyone is so scared to talk to - everyone is so scared to talk to vladimir— everyone is so scared to talk to vladimir -- _ everyone is so scared to talk to vladimir —— president - everyone is so scared to talk to vladimir —— president putin. i everyone is so scared to talk to . vladimir —— president putin. they have _ vladimir —— president putin. they have a _ vladimir —— president putin. they have a strong _ vladimir —— president putin. they have a strong relationship. - vladimir —— president putin. they have a strong relationship. can. vladimir —— president putin. they have a strong relationship. can [i have a strong relationship. can i 'ust have a strong relationship. can i just asked. _ have a strong relationship. can i just asked, boris _ have a strong relationship. can i just asked, boris johnson - have a strong relationship. can i just asked, boris johnson in - have a strong relationship. just asked, borisjohnson in his statement after meeting president trump said that president trump was going to stand up to aggression. her is saying this conflict could end in 24 is saying this conflict could end in 2a hours of standing up to aggression? could ended but that would mean freezing the lines as they are, giving president putin a huge chunk of ukraine and the thinking is he will be back in five years for the rest of ukraine. and years for the rest of ukraine. and that might _ years for the rest of ukraine. and that might be _ years for the rest of ukraine. and that might be the _ years for the rest of ukraine. and that might be the possibility but here is— that might be the possibility but here is the — that might be the possibility but here is the thing... _ that might be the possibility but here is the thing... he - that might be the possibility but here is the thing... he needs i that might be the possibility but here is the thing... he needs to| here is the thing... he needs to make _ here is the thing... he needs to make sure _ here is the thing... he needs to make sure those _ here is the thing... he needs to make sure those lines - here is the thing... he needs to make sure those lines of - make sure those lines of communication- make sure those lines of communication are - make sure those lines of| communication are open. make sure those lines of - communication are open. that make sure those lines of _

communication are open. that does not worry— communication are open. that does not worry me — communication are open. that does not worry me. clearly, _ communication are open. that does not worry me. clearly, congress - communication are open. that does i not worry me. clearly, congress does not worry me. clearly, congress does not want _ not worry me. clearly, congress does not want to _ not worry me. clearly, congress does not want to send _ not worry me. clearly, congress does not want to send another— not worry me. clearly, congress does not want to send another blank- not worry me. clearly, congress does not want to send another blank checkj not want to send another blank check to zelensky _ not want to send another blank check to zelensky to — not want to send another blank check to zelensky to do _ not want to send another blank check to zelensky to do whatever _ not want to send another blank check to zelensky to do whatever he - not want to send another blank checkj to zelensky to do whatever he wants. congress want — to zelensky to do whatever he wants. congress want to _ to zelensky to do whatever he wants. congress want to see _ to zelensky to do whatever he wants. congress want to see an _ to zelensky to do whatever he wants. congress want to see an end - to zelensky to do whatever he wants. congress want to see an end to - to zelensky to do whatever he wants. congress want to see an end to the l congress want to see an end to the game _ congress want to see an end to the game plan — congress want to see an end to the game plan to— congress want to see an end to the game plan to this _ congress want to see an end to the game plan to this war— congress want to see an end to the game plan to this war entirely - game plan to this war entirely before — game plan to this war entirely before this _ game plan to this war entirely before this and _ game plan to this war entirely before this and additional - game plan to this war entirely - before this and additional funding. president — before this and additional funding. president trump _ before this and additional funding. president trump can _ before this and additional funding. president trump can get _ before this and additional funding. president trump can get his - before this and additional funding. president trump can get his allies| president trump can get his allies in congress — president trump can get his allies in congress and _ president trump can get his allies in congress and the _ president trump can get his allies in congress and the senate - president trump can get his allies in congress and the senate to - president trump can get his allies . in congress and the senate to make sure there _ in congress and the senate to make sure there is — in congress and the senate to make sure there is funds _ in congress and the senate to make sure there is funds going _ in congress and the senate to make sure there is funds going to- in congress and the senate to make sure there is funds going to ukraine j sure there is funds going to ukraine but we _ sure there is funds going to ukraine but we need — sure there is funds going to ukraine but we need to— sure there is funds going to ukraine but we need to have _ sure there is funds going to ukraine but we need to have an _ sure there is funds going to ukraine but we need to have an endgame, i sure there is funds going to ukraine i but we need to have an endgame, we cannot— but we need to have an endgame, we cannot keep _ but we need to have an endgame, we cannot keep sending _ but we need to have an endgame, we cannot keep sending blank— but we need to have an endgame, we cannot keep sending blank cheques. cannot keep sending blank cheques and neither— cannot keep sending blank cheques and neither should _ cannot keep sending blank cheques and neither should nato _ cannot keep sending blank cheques and neither should nato or- cannot keep sending blank cheques and neither should nato or any- cannot keep sending blank cheques. and neither should nato or any other agencies _ and neither should nato or any other agencies around _ and neither should nato or any other agencies around the _ and neither should nato or any other agencies around the world. - and neither should nato or any other agencies around the world. we - and neither should nato or any other agencies around the world. we need | agencies around the world. we need to understand — agencies around the world. we need to understand how— agencies around the world. we need to understand how all— agencies around the world. we need to understand how all of— agencies around the world. we need to understand how all of this - to understand how all of this unfolds _ to understand how all of this unfolds and _ to understand how all of this unfolds and how— to understand how all of this unfolds and how everyone i to understand how all of this i unfolds and how everyone can to understand how all of this - unfolds and how everyone can win. only unfolds and how everyone can win. 0nly person — unfolds and how everyone can win. 0nly person who _ unfolds and how everyone can win. only person who can _ unfolds and how everyone can win. only person who can deliver- unfolds and how everyone can win. only person who can deliver that l unfolds and how everyone can win.j only person who can deliver that is president _ only person who can deliver that is president trump. _ only person who can deliver that is president trump. joe _ only person who can deliver that is president trump. joe biden - only person who can deliver that is president trump. joe biden cannot| president trump. joe biden cannot even _ president trump. joe biden cannot even pick— president trump. joe biden cannot even pick up — president trump. joe biden cannot even pick up the _ president trump. joe biden cannot even pick up the phone, _ president trump. joe biden cannot even pick up the phone, his - president trump. joe biden cannot even pick up the phone, his officei even pick up the phone, his office hours _ even pick up the phone, his office hours are — even pick up the phone, his office hours are between _ even pick up the phone, his office hours are between 10am - even pick up the phone, his office hours are between 10am until- even pick up the phone, his officei hours are between 10am until 4pm every— hours are between 10am until 4pm every single — hours are between 10am until 4pm every single day _ hours are between 10am until 4pm every single day. we _ hours are between 10am untilltpm every single day-— every single day. we don't know that. i every single day. we don't know that- i will _ every single day. we don't know that- i will go — every single day. we don't know that. i will go back— every single day. we don't know that. i will go back to _ every single day. we don't know that. i will go back to ameshia l that. i will go back to ameshia cross. let me ask you, ifjoe biden does step down, who do you want to see on the ticket? llntiil does step down, who do you want to

see on the ticket?— see on the ticket? until he announces _ see on the ticket? until he announces he _ see on the ticket? until he announces he is _ see on the ticket? until he announces he is stepping i see on the ticket? until he - announces he is stepping down i will