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and tom daley speaks to the bbc after winning his fifth olympic medal. hello and welcome to college screen. will be further analysing the statement made outside the comments by rachel reeves. just want to bring you in additional line of breaking news regarding those stabbings in southport in the northwest of england today. merseyside police say a 17—year—old boy from the banks area has been arrested in connection with those stabbings in southport. the incident they believe is not currently being treated as terror —related. a 17—year—old boy from banks being arrested in connection with those stabbings in southport green southport according to merseyside police. several people, at least eight people were injured.
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we heard earlier a man had been detained, it now turns out to be a 17—year—old boy from the area. we were hearing it is being treated as a major incident because of the number of people injured. witnesses said that children were amongst the numbers hurt and also some had been taking to the alder hey children's hospital. we will have more developments on the developing story throughout the evening here on bbc news. let's return to the statement on spending cuts that the chancellor outlined today. she said that having got into office it was clear to her that the outgoing previous conservative government had on funded spending commitments to the tune of billion pounds this year. 22 billion. we've heard from the budget of possibility saying they're going to review the basis on which the
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budget by the conservative government in march was made. but speak to pauljohnson from fiscal studies to get the reaction of what rachel reeves is on today, which included scrapping commitments or certain infrastructure projects thank you forjoining us on bbc news. it was widely flagged, but what came as a surprise to you? i think the scale of the extent to which the previous government made announcements and policies without funding them was something of a surprise. although it's very difficult with these capital projects to know why what is being funded and what hasn't. the e6 funded and what hasn't. the £6 billion bill for asylum—seekers is huge. it appears not to have been funded by the previous government. it's worth saying that the biggest announcement the chancellor made today was about public sector pay and additional money for that. it's worth saying first that was always predictable, we knew there was not enough money in the budgets for that. that was a choice she made,
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that. that was a choice she made, that was not something she absolutely had to do although it would been quite difficult to do anything else was up to what extent do you believe today's statement sets the tone for her tenure as chancellor? hertenure, sets the tone for her tenure as chancellor? her tenure, the tone is going to be set by some of the difficult choices she is going to phase in difficult choices we've been talking about for a long time. some of these challenges she revealed today are on top of the big challenges that we've always been aware of, which is that over the next few years, unless she finds more money from borrowing or tax they're going to be further cuts in public services. my guess is what's going to happen is she will need to find more money from taxes. that's what we will presumably see in the autumn budget.— autumn budget. what sort of taxes would ou autumn budget. what sort of taxes would you imagine _ autumn budget. what sort of taxes would you imagine she _ autumn budget. what sort of taxes would you imagine she will- autumn budget. what sort of taxes would you imagine she will be - would you imagine she will be looking at?— would you imagine she will be looking at? she is ruled out so man , looking at? she is ruled out so many. that's — looking at? she is ruled out so many, that's difficult. - looking at? she is ruled out so many, that's difficult. it's - many, that's difficult. it's extraordinary now to look back at jeremy hunt's last two budget where
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he cut taxes by £20 billion for that life will be a lot easier for the new government if he had not done that. the chancellor and the new chancellor has ruled out reversing those national insurance cuts, rolled out pick up tax, vat and corporation tax. that means to be doing some things with capital gains tax and inheritance tax there is scope for doing that. the amount of money are not huge and they are also uncertain. i think that is one of the problems with some of those changes. there's been rumours that she will change the way in which pensions are taxed. some complex and difficult choices i had. figs pensions are taxed. some complex and difficult choices i had.— difficult choices i had. as far as borrowing _ difficult choices i had. as far as borrowing is — difficult choices i had. as far as borrowing is concerned, - difficult choices i had. as far as borrowing is concerned, yes . difficult choices i had. as far as borrowing is concerned, yes it. difficult choices i had. as far as | borrowing is concerned, yes it is difficult choices i had. as far as - borrowing is concerned, yes it is an economic choice but it's also a political choice. how much headroom with the chancellor have if she wanted to borrow a bit more? against her own for school _ wanted to borrow a bit more? against her own for school rules, _ wanted to borrow a bit more? against her own for school rules, given - wanted to borrow a bit more? against her own for school rules, given what l her own for school rules, given what we've heard today she's got no headroom at all. there is no scope
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for additional borrowing if she really wants to get debt falling at the end of the parliament, as she said that she wants to do. if she were to decide to do a bit more borrowing, a few billion extra, if that were to start borrowing a few years later with the roof caving as it did after the many budget from liz truss? probably not. but that's not to say it will be free, riskless, don't forget, part of the problem, part of the reason we've got all the problems we got today is our debt is so high and our debt interest payments are so high that they are taking up a lot of the money that the government would all dues otherwise have available for the public services we want. if you reduce the — the public services we want. if you reduce the amount _ the public services we want. if you reduce the amount of— the public services we want. if you reduce the amount of borrowing . the public services we want. if you reduce the amount of borrowing that you're going to take, how does that feedthrough in terms of interest rates and what the markets think of the united kingdom? the rates and what the markets think of the united kingdom?— rates and what the markets think of the united kingdom? the first thing to sa is the united kingdom? the first thing to say is the — the united kingdom? the first thing to say is the more _ the united kingdom? the first thing to say is the more borrowing - the united kingdom? the first thing to say is the more borrowing you . to say is the more borrowing you have the more that you have and then the more you pay in debt interest.
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that's one of the big problems we're facing right now. what the government doesn't want to do is to scare the markets by suddenly embarking on a big borrowing splurge. i don't think we're anywhere near that. i think rachel reeves has made clear that's not the kind of chancellor she's going to be. that is why those real big choices over taxes and spending are pretty much inevitable, even if there is room for a little bit of additional borrowing, there's not very much room. against her own fiscal rules, which he is absolutely committed to there's no room at all. how much of a significant moment was it when the chancellor said that the office for budget responsibility wasn't aware of some of the commitments that the previous government had made? that commitments that the previous government had made? that was an extraordinary _ government had made? that was an extraordinary statement. _ government had made? that was an extraordinary statement. the - government had made? that was an l extraordinary statement. the problem that the office for budget responsibility has is essentially when the government says the home office, for example is going to get this number of billion pounds next
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year, they basically have to take it on trust that that's the amount the home office is going to spend. generally speaking the job of the treasury is to make sure that that is the amount at the home office spends and it doesn't spend any more than that. what appears to have happened this time around is that policy decisions have meant that spending on asylum—seekers was going to be something like £6 billion this yearin to be something like £6 billion this year in the home office had virtually no money at all to pay for that on top of its other duties. i think those are the sorts of things that the cpr think those are the sorts of things that the opr might not have been aware of or will have missed. it in aware of or will have missed. it in a sense takes those spending numbers as given, it doesn't look down into each individual department and work out whether it can do all of the things that it said it will do. i think that's one of the welcome changes that we might see in terms of its role going forward. the chancellor — of its role going forward. the chancellor also _ of its role going forward. the chancellor also mentioned again they're setting up of an office for
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value for money. in your mind, what is that going to do? i value for money. in your mind, what is that going to do?— is that going to do? i don't know, i haven't had — is that going to do? i don't know, i haven't had a _ is that going to do? i don't know, i haven't had a chance _ is that going to do? i don't know, i haven't had a chance to _ is that going to do? i don't know, i haven't had a chance to look- is that going to do? i don't know, i haven't had a chance to look at - haven't had a chance to look at detail of documents. we have a national audit office whose job it is exposed to look at whether things have been value for money and they put out regular reports, where things have been problematic and haven't offered value for money. it ought to be the job within the civil service departments to ensure that planned bending provides value for money. how a new value for money office sits on top of those two things is unclear. what i hope does is provide more public information on the expected efficiency of spending in particular areas. and hopefully holds government to account to ensure that a proper appraisal and evaluations are done so we can really see how effective spending is. we are done so we can really see how effective spending is.— effective spending is. we heard about some _ effective spending is. we heard about some of _ effective spending is. we heard about some of the _ effective spending is. we heard| about some of the infrastructure projects that are going to fall by the wayside, going to be scrapped,
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transport cuts, certain road projects such as the stonehenge teller, which we will talk about in a moment, which is not to be continued with. this is a government saying it wants to focus on growth. how do you do that without investing in infrastructure?— in infrastructure? that's a real roblem in infrastructure? that's a real problem for — in infrastructure? that's a real problem for the _ in infrastructure? that's a real problem for the government. | in infrastructure? that's a real- problem for the government. they appear to have signed up to significant cuts in capital spending on infrastructure spending over the last government had cuts played over the next five years. as far as we know that government isn't changing that. so by not finding extra funding for some of these planned projects, that's going to have a small but negative effect on growth into the medium term. ethic it's very striking that they made these decisions so quickly rather than making them as part of a broader spending review, which we ours expecting later in the year. i think that reflects projects with funding simply had it been allocated and
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therefore were the simplest ones to chop. in a sense, they're not really cuts in the sense the funding hadn't been allocated but promises had been made. i think that was another problem the previous government left behind saying, we will do this, without identifying the money with which they will do it. paul without identifying the money with which they will do it.— which they will do it. pauljohnson from the institute _ which they will do it. pauljohnson from the institute for _ which they will do it. pauljohnson from the institute for fiscal- from the institute for fiscal studies, thank you forjoining us and sharing your thoughts about the chancellors statement. listening to that interview is somebody with a slightly different perspective. joining me now is george dibb, associate director for economic policy at institute for public policy research — a charity that says it wants a fairer, greener and more prosperous society. thank you forjoining us here on couege thank you forjoining us here on college green. what is your reaction to what extent does the statement today meet your requirements, your aim for that today meet your requirements, your aim forthat fair today meet your requirements, your aim for that fair society? i today meet your requirements, your aim for that fair society?— aim for that fair society? i think we knew before _ aim for that fair society? i think we knew before the _ aim for that fair society? i think we knew before the election - aim for that fair society? i thinkl we knew before the election that some of the major economic challenges facing this country might
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be a barrier towards getting that economic growth and prosperity and reducing economic inequalities which so sorely need to be fixed. we have new information from rachel reeves for greater contacts with the i think you've heard from the chancellor is the long road that she sees the labour government has to climb to resolve some of these challenges. we believe that the election is a clear sign that the people of this country want to see some of the challenges of this country fix. lots of people know if they try to get a gp appointment with their local doctor or they try to get a train between two of the uk's largest cities that things don't work. that means the chancellor does have tough choices with up we need to get economic growth, we also need economic investment the prime minister has been very clear he does not want to see a return to austerity. all of these challenges together are quite significant. that is combined now with what we have learned today and what the opr have only learned last
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week, which is significant overspent this year. it week, which is significant overspent this ear. ., , ., ., this year. it does mean that the chancellor _ this year. it does mean that the chancellor believes _ this year. it does mean that the chancellor believes she - this year. it does mean that the chancellor believes she has - this year. it does mean that the | chancellor believes she has very little scope for further borrowing, which you might argue many people it may argue is absolutely essential if you're going to invest for growth? we think the government has a clear mandate to borrow and invest in the country. some of these overspent announced to date impact day—to—day spending but that doesn't necessarily mean it's closing off space to invest.— space to invest. you think you should be _ space to invest. you think you should be borrowing - space to invest. you think you should be borrowing more? i space to invest. you think you | should be borrowing more? we space to invest. you think you - should be borrowing more? we think there is space _ should be borrowing more? we think there is space for _ should be borrowing more? we think there is space for the _ should be borrowing more? we think there is space for the government. should be borrowing more? we think there is space for the government to | there is space for the government to invest both of the labour parties manifest you in the election was clear that in combination with sensible entitled to tax rises, borrowing to invest,... for sensible entitled to tax rises, borrowing to invest, . .. borrowing to invest,... for the arteries sending _ borrowing to invest,... for the arteries sending a _ borrowing to invest,... for the arteries sending a single - borrowing to invest,... for the arteries sending a single to - borrowing to invest,... for the | arteries sending a single to the market that she is fiscally prudent, she's going to show restraint and in
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doing so that in turn will get the deck outcome the deficit down, reduce the interest payments on that debt? that also helps business if they are not having to service debt at such a high cost. i they are not having to service debt at such a high cost.— at such a high cost. i think it's worth stepping _ at such a high cost. i think it's worth stepping back— at such a high cost. i think it's worth stepping back and - at such a high cost. i think it'sl worth stepping back and asking what does sustainable debt mean or what does sustainable debt mean or what does it mean to be a responsible chancellor. i think it's clear on the day—to—day challenges things like some of the welfare and spending challenges that the chancellor set up today, she's been very clear that she will be making tough challenges, perhaps even cutting those things with up to be responsible chancellor means investing today to avoid catastrophic change in the future. investing today to ensure that we're on the cutting—edge of industries of the future. that means you can balance those things. i think markets are absolutely clear for them if you listen to bond traders there is clearly space for the uk to borrow more. only if that borrowing is connected to growing the economy and the future. we should not learn the wrong lessons from liz cust�*s
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tenure as prime minister. that government borrowed money to give tax cuts to the wealthiest —— liz truss with the at the chancellors setting out today and the government talking about today's borrowing to invest, growing the economy, creating jobs and being at the front of the global economy. haifa creating jobs and being at the front of the global economy. how concerned were ou to of the global economy. how concerned were you to hear— of the global economy. how concerned were you to hear that _ of the global economy. how concerned were you to hear that winter _ of the global economy. how concerned were you to hear that winter fuel - were you to hear that winter fuel pensions will not receive credits, the people most tied up in society and knocking to get that money any more this winter? it's been a universal payment. it more this winter? it's been a universal payment.— more this winter? it's been a universal payment. it has. that was brou:ht in universal payment. it has. that was brought in at _ universal payment. it has. that was brought in at the _ universal payment. it has. that was brought in at the same _ universal payment. it has. that was brought in at the same time - universal payment. it has. that was brought in at the same time as - universal payment. it has. that was brought in at the same time as the | brought in at the same time as the triple lock, aiming to really make sure that we address pension, that was the right thing to do at the time. it is also right that we assess, is that the right thing to have as we go forward. clearly we need to make sure that the people who really need help to get it. i do think it is a sensible change to narrow down the scope of that. it's a sensible reform to a benefit which
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previously was universal. iloathed a sensible reform to a benefit which previously was universal.— previously was universal. what is our view previously was universal. what is your view on _ previously was universal. what is your view on her _ previously was universal. what is your view on her decision - previously was universal. what is your view on her decision to - previously was universal. what is your view on her decision to go i your view on her decision to go ahead with these 22% increases in public sector pay awards over the next couple of years at? jeremy hunt, the shadow chancellor said, we as a local government have not seen site of those recommendations. they are only recommendations, she doesn't have to adhere to them. why would you win that money could go to investment that would generate more revenue? , ., ., , revenue? they are only recommendations - revenue? they are only recommendations but l revenue? they are only . recommendations but they revenue? they are only - recommendations but they are recommendations but they are recommendations by independent pay review panels. you have to balance that cost with what would happen if those salary increases were not addressed. we know that public sector strikes, the shortages of workers in those important public sectors are holding back the delivery of services. i think this government have won a mandate to fix those public services. getting around the table and getting a deal with those workers is the right thing to do. like most people, i am relieved to hear that lots of those
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strikes will be called to an end. you mentioned the size of the mandate, the huge majority this government has come up there in this honeymoon period where if you're going to make difficult decisions you make them now. how do you think today's statement will go down with those people that you highlight were ready for change? i those people that you highlight were ready for change?— ready for change? i think they will take it as a _ ready for change? i think they will take it as a frank— ready for change? i think they will take it as a frank assessment - ready for change? i think they will take it as a frank assessment of i ready for change? i think they will i take it as a frank assessment of the challenges that really are facing the chancellor. some of the things we heard today match what the chancellor is set before the election that not every spending decision will be approved, not everything will get the green light. some of those tricky day—to—day decisions. i think what she has done is set out this vision of prioritising economic growth. also protecting public services that everyone relies on.— protecting public services that everyone relies on. george dibb, from the institute _ everyone relies on. george dibb, from the institute for _ everyone relies on. george dibb, from the institute for public - everyone relies on. george dibb,| from the institute for public policy research, thank you forjoining us on bbc news. a different perspective
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there. george dibb feeling there is still scope for further borrowing. that's not something that the chancellor has said she wishes to commit to. she feels she doesn't really have the headroom for that. drop the afternoon we been joined by stephen bush. stevebush is the associate editor and columnist with the financial times. when the chancellor said the office for public responsibility hadn't had site for some of the date they should've had regarding those unfunded and undisclosed spending commitments that the previous conservative government have got. how significant was that in your mind? i how significant was that in your mind? ~ ., �* , how significant was that in your mind? ~ . �* , ., how significant was that in your mind? ~ . �*, ., ., mind? i think that's the real wow moment of— mind? i think that's the real wow moment of the _ mind? i think that's the real wow moment of the statement. - mind? i think that's the real wow moment of the statement. up i mind? i think that's the real wow i moment of the statement. up until those words, up until the statement lots of us were saying look, yes, there is a hole in the public finances but it's nothing we didn't know about. that moment can bond with the ob ours letter say were
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going to review what happened because we also don't think we did get this right is the moment which completely exploded which up until now had been an effective line for the conservatives to take witches, come on, you did know about this before the election. it come on, you did know about this before the election.— before the election. it after the shadow two _ before the election. it after the shadow two previous _ before the election. it after the shadow two previous shadow i shadow two previous shadow chancellor said hold on a minute, this is a matter of trust. you are committing to £24 billion of extra spending in a 2k days you been in office. you knew how bad it was and then she came back with the ob r line. ~ , , ., , .,, line. while it is serious it was also effective _ line. while it is serious it was also effective political- line. while it is serious it was| also effective political theatre line. while it is serious it was i also effective political theatre to lure your opponent into coming back in the way to becoming back and then produce another bit of collateral saying, you are bent to right. this is going to be the question for all of these considered for leadership election. what line did they want to have on this put up —— conservative leadership. they don't want to fail to get their story straight on the financial crisis.— to get their story straight on the financial crisis. great to have you
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here. i financial crisis. great to have you here- ithink— financial crisis. great to have you here. i think all— financial crisis. great to have you here. i think all of— financial crisis. great to have you here. i think all of our— financial crisis. great to have you here. i think all of our guests - here. i think all of our guests should make such an effort as you have done this afternoon. stephen bush, thank you very much from the financial times. as we've heard, the stonehenge tunnel is one of the projects expected to be paused or scrapped completely. we've spoken to people who are pleased that that title under need the unesco world heritage is no longer going to happen. not everybody shares that view. not everybody shares that view. joining me now is paul mckernan, shrewton parish councillor and lead of the shrewton traffic working group. thank you forjoining us for that what is your reaction to the chancellors decision to scrap the tunnel? �* ., , ., chancellors decision to scrap the tunnel? �* . , ., ,., tunnel? i'm devastated both personally — tunnel? i'm devastated both personally and _ tunnel? i'm devastated both personally and on _ tunnel? i'm devastated both personally and on behalf - tunnel? i'm devastated both personally and on behalf of. tunnel? i'm devastated both i personally and on behalf of the villagers. shrews and is the point in which the traffic that can't usually meets. we've been campaigning for decades for relief from the excess traffic that we suffer from. from the excess traffic that we sufferfrom. we get
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from the excess traffic that we suffer from. we get several thousand vehicles a day diverting through shrewton for the and the advent has just made it worse. our villagers cannot use the high street, it's a narrow village high street for the on street parking is a necessity for many of the villagers. and places it doesn't have pavement. it makes shrewton a dangerous place to try and move around. in addition, the diverging traffic both east and westbound blocks the local roads and stops us going about our daily journey. visits to amesbury, which is about eight miles away should take 15 minutes or so, some days i can take 45 minutes each way. it's really difficult to live in a world like that. 50 really difficult to live in a world like that. �* , ., ., ., really difficult to live in a world like that. �*, ., ., ., ., like that. so it's not going to go ahead as a _ like that. so it's not going to go ahead as a tunnel. _ like that. so it's not going to go ahead as a tunnel. there - like that. so it's not going to go ahead as a tunnel. there have l like that. so it's not going to go - ahead as a tunnel. there have been other suggestions which acknowledge her concerns about traffic congestion and the dangers and the
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blight that it brings your communities. such as a bypass or making that road a dual carriage road. because the argument is the it will be less damaging and less expensive. why aren't they acceptable solutions to you? is not that they are _ acceptable solutions to you? is not that they are not _ acceptable solutions to you? is not that they are not acceptable - acceptable solutions to you? is not that they are not acceptable to - acceptable solutions to you? is not| that they are not acceptable to me, they are not acceptable to the shareholders, the stakeholders in this project. it's my understanding that the tunnel is the only solution which all of the stakeholders would sign up to. i struggle to see how a project that will be further away from these stones, well below the level of the archaeology and where the entry and exit points are subject to intensive archaeological survey can be more damaging than the existing 8303 or dual carriage way
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or a tunnel. —— a 303. this title will bisected when a new current 303 was put in. we didn't have those concerns about preserving rights and way and countryside. ijust struggled to see how this can't be an improvement. for those who say well, we're damaging the archaeology, this poor .6 million allocated in the project to conduct intensive archaeology surveys around the entrance and exits. —— 4.6. i think what we're facing is a vision of how stonehenge used to be that is held by a small group of people. and they are determined that nothing should change. it's committing our village to death by traffic. it looks like a different solution is going to have to be found. paul,
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thank you very much for talking to us. we're almost at the end of our programme from college green. we're almost at the end of our programme from college green. ian dunt is a columnist for the i newspaper. what was your reaction when you were listening to that statement? to what extent is it set out the type of chancellor rager rees is going to be a? ,, �* , , , chancellor rager rees is going to be a? ,, �*, , , ., , chancellor rager rees is going to be a? she's pretty deadly, my impression. _ a? she's pretty deadly, my impression. it _ a? she's pretty deadly, my impression. it was - a? she's pretty deadly, my impression. it was quite i a? she's pretty deadly, my impression. it was quite a l a? she's pretty deadly, my - impression. it was quite a striking blow that she dealt today. —— rachel rees was that we had a few weeks of labour putting out these whispers going ok, we found a big black hole, it is a problem there. most journalists are saying hang on a minute, you have been able to see all the stuff, it's been visible to you. this morning labour came out and say talk to us again once we've made the statement. the labour statement, they are real, they are objectively real recognises such
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they are now 6 billion on a housing costs. at consequence of policymaking decisions by the conservatives. by the end of that you think of it you just inflicted some serious previous damage on the conservative front bench right now. i think when they look at her they will think we better be careful how we handle this person. haifa will think we better be careful how we handle this person.— will think we better be careful how we handle this person. how do you think people _ we handle this person. how do you think people who _ we handle this person. how do you think people who voted _ we handle this person. how do you think people who voted for- we handle this person. how do you think people who voted for a - we handle this person. how do you | think people who voted for a change of the last election will have received the message today? it’s received the message today? it's hard. i received the message today? it�*s hard. i think there's an understanding of the state we're in. the funny thing is, all of this theatre we see right now but who has access to the information all past. what doesn't pass is the public experience of the breakdown of the system of the last few years with the road, rail, person, health, they felt it. even though they voted for change they are essentially aware of the degree of deterioration they've experienced recently financially and in terms of basic organisational competence. i expect they will give labour a few years with a by the time we get the end of parliament went labour is going for allegedly
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better show results with the buyer imagine this fundamental message of the conservatives broke it and it will take a while for us to put it back together will land.- will take a while for us to put it back together will land. later in the ear back together will land. later in the year we _ back together will land. later in the year we will _ back together will land. later in the year we will see _ back together will land. later in the year we will see spending i back together will land. later in - the year we will see spending views and detailed examination of what's being spent but also tax rises. rachel reeves said today working people will not be affected. where are those tax increases gavara? i think the code is were looking at world taxes rather than taxes on income for the national insurance, looking at capital gains you may have noticed to the general election the subterfuge that was used where rachel reeves would be asked, i have a capital gains tax and no plans to do anything with that, which is political code for we definitely but not boring that out. indeed i think that's very likely to happen for that's very likely to happen for that one of the first things we will see in the autumn getting the budget will be rises in capital gains taxes for the possible will see inheritance as well. what we will see is the area she pledged income tax, national insurance. idit see is the area she pledged income
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tax, national insurance.— tax, national insurance. ian dunt from the i— tax, national insurance. ian dunt from the i newspaper. _ tax, national insurance. ian dunt from the i newspaper. thank- tax, national insurance. ian dunt from the i newspaper. thank you | tax, national insurance. ian dunt i from the i newspaper. thank you for joining us here on bbc news. tomorrow is the return of the deputy prime minister. angela rayner will be looking at the kinds of planning changes that this government wants to bring an end. of course they made a commitment to building many more houses. let's turn our attention to the olympics. john daly has what is fifth medal in the men synchronised ten metre platform in paris. let's hear his reaction. we're both over the moon. it's been really special to be able to dive in front of a crowd again, because tokyo is such a different olympics. and, you know, for me to be able to dive in front of my kids and to be able to die in front of my husband and my whole family, all my friends, it was actually really emotional for me to step out in the practice before the competition and see them all there, because like that for me,
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was my goal this year was to get to the olympics because i had taken two years off and decided to come back, and i was like, you know what? this was all worth it to see them all there and to know how much support and love i have. the result of the competition was kind of going to be irrelevant to me. but you know, i'm glad we did come away with something. yeah, i feel so happy. i mean, first medal, so i can't really complain too much. i literally feel like i did the best i could, and to do the best you can and come away with a medal, i can't. with a medal, i can't, i don't have any complaints. and to have my family there, obviously tom had loads of family and friends. the support was insane, mainly because of this guy, but it was a really special moment. how was it training together? well, our training together is like slightly complicated because i live in la and he lives in london. so we got together for the first time in november, and then we've probably done a total of about eight weeks training together. it's not a massive amount. no, we only trained at competitions, so we would only we would like have the week before a competition and then the competition if it was a major. but then for the world cup series,
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it was just one week and we would have maybe five days training together. so it's yeah, we're very, very new partnership. so given all of that we've done we've done pretty well. no i'll be honest with me. he's not listening. was he good to train with? oh is it easy. i mean the synchro came naturally and then to train with obviously because he is so good like he's been for medals before this, the fifth medal. and, uh, obviously i hadn't done that. and that's something i wanted to achieve. i literally had to feel like i step up in training every day. and i mean, it's got me here. so yeah, it's been great. tell me a little bit more about what this means in terms of this olympics, because paris has a very different feel to tokyo, doesn't it? oh, yeah. this games feels so much more, you know, i don't know for... and it's almost feels like very for the people even just doing the opening ceremony on the river and being able to have as many people as possible witness it and see it and feel it, itjust feels like it's really in the heart of everything. that flag i kept thinking, i know i was, it. was so wet, it was unbelievable. we had like a little thing that we were able to put it into the side so we could actually, like, hold on to it.
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but then when we were trying to like it was... yeah, it was very, wet. got your titanic. we did. yeah. as soon as we got on the boat, i was like, helen, we have to do the titanic. but i definitely you have to be jack. yeah, it was really, really i don't know, it was really nice. it was really a massive honour to be a flag bearer at my first olympics. i remember in 2008, walking out behind mark foster in the beijing opening ceremony, so to, you know, to have been able to be one of the very few people to get to do that and, you know, very, very proud. tonight at six: eight people, including a number of children, have been injured in a stabbing here in southport on merseyside. armed officers arrested a 17—year—old boy and police say there is no wider threat to the public. and so 10 million pensioners will lose their
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winter fuel payments. but rachel reeves is offering junior doctors in england a 22% pay rise over two years — plus an above inflation offer for teachers. the former bbc news presenter huw edwards is charged with three counts of making indecent images of children. at the olympics, a fight to the finish by team gb's tom pidcock who retains his mountain bike title with ruthless skill. and more saddle success, as the eventing team retain their olympic title to win britain's first gold of the games. on bbc london: £2 million of mayoral money for projects to combat and coming up in sport on bbc news, paris 2024 organisers say they're confident the olympic triathlon events will go ahead as scheduled from tomorrow, despite concerns over pollution in the river seine.

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