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victims are trapped. and pollution in the seine forces the olympic organisers to postpone the men's triathlon — just hours before it was due to begin. hello. police have confirmed that a third girl has died from her injuries — after the multiple stabbings in southport in the north west of england. the attack, on a summer—holiday dance workshop, has also left five the first picture of the nine—year—old girl has been released, this is a lease, she is the daughter of portuguese parents. this is the first image, the heartbreaking image, and has been released in the last few moments.
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the attack, on a summer—holiday dance workshop, has also left five children and two adults in a critical condition. a 17—year—old boy has been arrested on suspicion of murder and attempted murder. he can't be named because of his age, but the bbc can report, that he was born in cardiff — to rwandan parents — and moved to the southport area, 11 years ago. on tuesday morning, the home secretary visited the seaside town. yvette cooper was visibly moved as she laid flowers at the scene. the pop star taylor swift — whose music inspired the dance—class — posted a tribute on social media — describing the "horrendous trauma inflicted". quietly paying respects, the home secretary among those who have been here today, a moment's pause in a community that may never be able to understand why. it has been confirmed a third child has died, a nine—year—old girl, in addition to two girls aged six and seven. eight other children
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suffered some points, five of them are critically ill. two adults are also in a critical condition. the horror unfolded at what was supposed to be a fun taylor swift themed holiday workshop for primary schoolchildren. yoga, dancing, bracelet making in what is usually a safe space, a haven for pregnant women where baby and children's classes also take place. i think it is unimaginable what has happened, devastating and horrific, this attack. all of our thoughts will be with the families who have been affected, loved ones who have been lost, and the children who have been injured. it is really important to get all of the support they need. the bbc understands leanne lucas was among those attacked. the woman running the workshop yesterday has been praised for her bravery, although her condition has not been confirmed by authorities. in a statement on instagram,
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taylor swift said: the community- here feel the same. lam iamjust i am just completely in shock. these were just _ i am just completely in shock. these were just little — i am just completely in shock. these were just little kids _ i am just completely in shock. these were just little kids at _ i am just completely in shock. these were just little kids at a _ i am just completely in shock. these were just little kids at a dance - were just little kids at a dance class, — were just little kids at a dance class, i— were just little kids at a dance class, i am _ were just little kids at a dance class, i am not _ were just little kids at a dance class, i am not a _ were just little kids at a dance class, i am not a complete - were just little kids at a dance i class, i am not a complete loss were just little kids at a dance - class, i am not a complete loss at how to _ class, i am not a complete loss at how to convey _ class, i am not a complete loss at how to convey my _ class, i am not a complete loss at how to convey my ec— class, i am not a complete loss at how to convey my ec please. - class, i am not a complete loss at how to convey my ec please. children should be able _ how to convey my ec please. children should be able to _ how to convey my ec please. children should be able to enjoy _ how to convey my ec please. children should be able to enjoy the _ how to convey my ec please. children should be able to enjoy the holidays | should be able to enjoy the holidays and the beginning of it, this tragedy has happened and it is so utterly, you cannot describe in words how does awful it is. southport is a very small town and there _ southport is a very small town and there will— southport is a very small town and there will be many, many people, both personally impacted by what happened yesterday, but they will also know the families, their children— also know the families, their children will know the chapter and who were — children will know the chapter and who were in that room and they need to give _ who were in that room and they need to give them — who were in that room and they need to give them space to articulate
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their— to give them space to articulate their emotions. a 17—year—old suspect who has been arrested was born in cardiff and moved to the southport area in 2013. his parents are from rwanda. the incident isn't being treated as terror—related. there is still a lotj to be figured out. the police said i that they arrested one 17—year—old individual. they are not currently . looking for anybody else, they don't believe there is . anybody else related to this. it is obviously complicated, . the investigation, so they will now take some time now. to figure out what happened and why it happened. specialist medical teams like those at the famous alder hey hospital continue to try to save as many lives as they can. there are more and more flowers as the day goes on, one with a poem saying: "we cling to future hope we can now speak to our correspondent nicky schiller in southport, and rowan bridge outside alder hey children's hospital
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we had that devastating update earlier, didn't we? about the brutality. earlier, didn't we? about the brutali . . , brutality. that is right, in the last coume — brutality. that is right, in the last couple of— brutality. that is right, in the last couple of hours - brutality. that is right, in the last couple of hours we - brutality. that is right, in the last couple of hours we have | brutality. that is right, in the - last couple of hours we have heard that the nine—year—old who was yesterday, critically injured, died overnight in hospital and in the last half an hour we have had a photo of her released. her name is alice and the information that we are getting is coming from the portuguese minister talking on television. he said that she is the daughter of portuguese parents, originally from madeira, she was nine years old. he said that she was one of the victims of this awful crime, family live in southport and he would not be surprised, to know that the minister is saying that they are in a state of shock. early on facebook, a relative described a moment of such pain and said it hurts the soul, it hurts the body.
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we can now bring you the full statement, from her mother, and it reads, princess alice, in this mode of such pain, it hurts the soul, it hurts the body, adhere to the mind. a lump in the throat, you were just an innocent child, happy girl, smiling, who has a bright life ahead of her. which are despicable being took from you, without mercy or pity, without any reason. look after your parent to suffer, who are desolate, destroyed, look after them, fly high our little star. i love you. that, a statement from a family member, the nine—year old alice who we know now has died and it says a lump in your throat. i think that sums up the mood here, throughout the day, they can see the media is here. in force. this is
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media not only from here in the united kingdom, but around the world. australia, france, colleagues from germany, and throughout the day this has been building and they may also be able to see it behind me. the flowers that have been building throughout the day. so many people coming and laying floral tributes, you mentioned in your introduction, that the home secretary came here, she came with the local mp and members of the merseyside police force. unusually, these incidents, it was absolutely quiet here. or you could hear was the sound of the cameras clicking, the journalists went silent, the members of the public are we here went silent, the police officers around went silent,
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and you just watch the home secretary laying her flowers, looking at the other tributes that have been left, and then she hugged, in quite an emotional moment, the local mp as well. for a moment, they stood there in silence. that has been happening through the day earlier, a gentlemanjust came up and stood here at the barrier, and silent, also offering a little prayer. the seaside town in the north west of england, is in the state of shock. in a state of grief, to dave, after batman stabbing yesterday. what happened on the street, a man holiday group, it was the start of the summer holidays in the start of the summer holidays in the united kingdom and what is being held was a taylor swift aimed dance event and there were 25 children there, taking part also making bracelets. things like that, these
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groups happen all over the country during the summer holidays, probably all around the world, parents drop off their children for a few hours during the summer holidays to do an event. this one in particular was aimed at six to ii—year—olds. there were 25 children inside. then, the police was disrupted by a man who ran page inside the building. as we now know three girls have died. we have mentioned manuals alice, we had her picture in the last couple of hours but also we know that the other girls were aged six and seven. this group was aimed at six to ii—year—olds, one of those has died was just six years old. as we said, five others are in a critical condition. also, two adults are in a critical condition. now, police have been talking about the fact that
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those two adults were trying to protect the children at this event during this incident. they were injured during that rampage. they, as i said, are still in a critical condition in hospital.- as i said, are still in a critical condition in hospital. thanks very much, condition in hospital. thanks very much. let's _ condition in hospital. thanks very much, let's find _ condition in hospital. thanks very much, let's find out _ condition in hospital. thanks very much, let's find out more - condition in hospital. thanks very much, let's find out more about i much, let's find out more about that. bring me right up to date in terms of any sort of update that has come from the hospital about all those others involved both children and adults. we those others involved both children and adults. ~ . , those others involved both children and adults. ~ ., , , ., , ., and adults. we have been promised an u date and adults. we have been promised an update from — and adults. we have been promised an update from about _ and adults. we have been promised an update from about nine o'clock - and adults. we have been promised an update from about nine o'clock this - update from about nine o'clock this morning and then it did come injust before midday the new that nobody wants to hear that alice had died as a result of her injuries overnight and that they confirmed the details as he was saying of the other two
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children that were involved. we know that there are still five children and two adults that are in critical condition, we have not been given any more details about them, we do not know how old they are, what sex they are, or what details there are better injuries. we know that one person who was injured as a result of the attack was leanne lucas who was running the dance lesson, there have been tributes being paid on my to her for have been tributes being paid on my to herfor her have been tributes being paid on my to her for her efforts that she made when this attack happened. but, we have not been given any official data regards to her condition. the children injured were taken to to hospital one in all the high and one in manchester. the reason they were used was that they are then mated to a trauma centre is the children in the north west of england, in fact, the north west of england, in fact, the skin of what they were facing here today alder hey declared it a major incident and that has now been stood down but clearly these were difficult and distressing times for
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the doctors and nurses here. because, this is not a situation that was an accidental children have had an incident, this is what police described as a ferocious attack on young primary school age children. i think what we've also seen is that the shock, the numbness that there is in the community. i was down at the police because in this morning and they are right, it is a beautifully sunny day here in liverpool and it wasn't output this but what you notice how white it was. it's the summer holidays comedy you would expect children for them to be around and as it stands the community. but you've also seen in the worst of times the word pasta people. there is a fundraising page has been set up to pay for alder hey to help some of the critically ill children which was set up this morning. that is raised more than £100,000 today already.-
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morning. that is raised more than £100,000 today already. thanks very much. £100,000 today already. thanks very much- they're — £100,000 today already. thanks very much- they're at _ £100,000 today already. thanks very much. they're at alder _ £100,000 today already. thanks very much. they're at alder hey _ £100,000 today already. thanks very much. they're at alder hey hospital. | much. they're at alder hey hospital. you will have seen a flurry of pictures from the floral tributes because we were just seeing officials from a football club arrive there at the scene to lay their tributes and that is still going on, we have been told that both officials and players from everton and liverpool, a fierce rivalry between the two clubs, but of course in a day like yesterday and today they are coming together so those club officials there at the scene. to lay their flowers there, their tributes and have a few moments of thought at that scene. it grows by the hour in terms of the number of flowers left there, we will return in the next little while but let's pick up and talk to peter williams is a former inspector with merseyside police and is a senior lecturer at the liverpool centre for advanced policing studies
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at liverpooljohn moores university. thank you so much for being here with us, the whole community as we saw is absolutely shell—shocked. in terms of what the police will be doing as we are talking, give me give me a clearer idea.— give me a clearer idea. good afternoon. — give me a clearer idea. good afternoon, everybody - give me a clearer idea. good afternoon, everybody is - give me a clearer idea. good - afternoon, everybody is shocked give me a clearer idea. (emf. afternoon, everybody is shocked and you are quite right, i think what the reports have said, as very eloquently described, they reflected the community's feelings but in relation to the police service which you responded to directly, they will be what they should be, and that is very professional in conducting, what is a criminal investigation and a major one as well. that will be a key part of that, was, it is no
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secret that we have seen it already, but the cordons and the like will be the forensic examinations, i imagine it'll be quite extensive. i understand the suspect was arrested at a separate premises, so effectively there are two scenes which the force will be managing at the moment. i would imagine will take some time before that is actually concluded, in addition to that, release offices will be on the grounds doing the routine inquiries that are necessary in this very justification such as this, and that is the basic police were, knocking on doors, house—to—house inquiries, speaking to people, looking for further evidence from cctv, ring the door bell evidence and the purpose of all this culminating, coming together, is to principal picture as together, is to principal picture as to what has happened. there is little point in the suspect being
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interviewed by the police until we are in possession all the police is in possession, are in possession of the full facts. the public are waiting for updates, as they come but so far, as you notice the police have been very matter—of—fact. i’m have been very matter-of-fact. i'm sor to have been very matter-of-fact. i'm sorry to cut — have been very matter—of—fact. i'm sorry to cut across you but i do, for an important reason because as you are just midway through that answer, merseyside police have issued a later statement. confirmation of all three names of the three girls who died yesterday. in southport. we were looking at that picture of nine—year—olds and this onlyjust a short while ago but the police, in the last few moments, have also now identified the two other girls. who we know had died, bb king and also seven—year—olds
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elsie doffed. those are the three names, we have had one set of pictures released earlier and we anticipate more pictures in the next while but the police are confirming the identities and the ages, we knew that from the earlier statement, six, seven and nine, and just to repeat, bb and lc who was seven and alice who was nine. the statement goes on to say that the families were being supported by specialist officers, they have issued photos, they've asked for their privacy to be respected. a family has released a tribute. no words can describe the devastating, devastation that has hit our family as we try to deal with the loss of our little girl. the family have
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released a tribute, keep smiling and dancing, as we said before, you are always a princess and nobody will change that. love from your hero daddy and mummy. that isjust change that. love from your hero daddy and mummy. that is just coming from merseyside police, every aspect of the story is excruciating and so we see the floral tributes there they grow and grow by the hour, with officials in the last little while milled by local clubs they have come, we have seen politicians there, the home secretary was there, early in the day. of course, members of the publicjust early in the day. of course, members of the public just taking their flowers, their cards, pausing their to think and suggest taking, i mentioned there at the start, the shellshock of the community. this is a small town, southport, in the
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north west of england and it is such a shocking incident, and every description, are to in terms of what we heard from witnesses yesterday, but the first responders had to actually endure in the first few moments. so, those other scenes, let me bring in peter williams. i was talking to and peter, sorry to break away to give our viewers that update, another distressing update, you were just taking us through what the police will be doing and you finished your answer by saying that in a sense, there is no point having a word or interviews with anyone involved, that they have defined established what has happened and they have so many with this account structure go through don't they?
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indeed, notjust on the lines but the complexity of the inquiry that is what a constable said in the first press conference, yesterday afternoon. obviously, and system there is a clock ticking away and there is a clock ticking away and the male was arrested at around one o'clock yesterday so police authorisation will give until one o'clock tomorrow morning and i anticipate later on this afternoon there will be an application at the nearest magistrates�* court for a warrant of further detention, the law entitles that to be extended to 96 hours which, of course, is four days which takes us on friday. i wouldn�*t anticipate any interviews of the suspect that has been arrested until thursday at the earliest. given the amount of forensic evidence that they need to collect a potential number of witnesses in order to get as particular full picture that i been
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speaking about before the interviewing officers can actually go and interview the suspect that has been arrested. so, this is a complex inquiry but it is also an inquiry that is necessary to be concluded and carried out expeditiously because of the inquiring that under law. from the criminal and evidence act, you are used to being aware of. and when i started by what the police will be doing, they will be doing exactly what they are trained to do, they are skilled at doing that and that is actually investigating, what is obviously a horrific crime but gathering the evidence for a, for the pro—criminal prosecution. gathering the evidence for a, for the pro-criminal prosecution. peter, sor to the pro-criminal prosecution. peter, sorry to cut — the pro-criminal prosecution. peter, sorry to cut in. _ the pro-criminal prosecution. peter, sorry to cut in, use _ the pro-criminal prosecution. peter, sorry to cut in, use that _ the pro-criminal prosecution. peter, sorry to cut in, use that phrase - the pro-criminal prosecution. peter, sorry to cut in, use that phrase you | sorry to cut in, use that phrase you they are doing what they are trying to do and that was also the case yesterday but that does not take
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away from arriving and having to deal with the most harrowing, dramatic scenes.— deal with the most harrowing, dramatic scenes. ., ., , �* ., dramatic scenes. no, it doesn't and nobody exoeets _ dramatic scenes. no, it doesn't and nobody expects that _ dramatic scenes. no, it doesn't and nobody expects that at _ dramatic scenes. no, it doesn't and nobody expects that at all. - dramatic scenes. no, it doesn't and nobody expects that at all. of - nobody expects that at all. of course, there were other first responders as well such as the fire and rescue and of course the paramedics and the ambulance. that will have been, there is no doubt, that was an absolutely horrific scene to be sent to. and arrive at. of scene to be sent to. and arrive at. of course, that will have been extremely traumatic. of course, as an organisation and as a service the police, and the ambulance services have to be professional and how they conduct and investigate and their duties but you�*re absolutely right, it is not something that we, fortunately, see that much of, we know this from the amount of public outcry and that sort of thing and
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unfortunately my service in merseyside i�*ve seen witnesses, if you�*ll remember, the shooting of nine—year—olds olivia and whilst they were completely horrific incident, we now see this on a huge scale and i think going forward you get this and they need to look at theissue get this and they need to look at the issue in relation to knife crime. in a wider context than, perhaps, what we are looking at at the moment. perhaps, what we are looking at at the moment-— the moment. stay with me again because i want _ the moment. stay with me again because i want to _ the moment. stay with me again because i want to return - the moment. stay with me again because i want to return to - the moment. stay with me again because i want to return to thatl because i want to return to that news that i brought you a short while ago, the update from merseyside. confirmation in the last few minutes of the names of all three of the guild who died. in the stabbing. the pictures have also been released to let me take you
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through it one by one. the police are saying that bb king, who was six, was one of the people we knew had died yesterday. after that attack. she was six years old, her family sharing a tribute, no words can describe the devastation that has hit our family as we try to deal with the loss of our little girl. also, the police confirming that seven—year—old lc was the second of the two little girls we knew who had died yesterday to confirm that yesterday, we have that in the evening, the press conference, that is lc who was seven. the picture and details and also in the last hour and also that nine—year old had died and also that nine—year old had died and she died overnight, she was one of the people taken to alder hey
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children�*s hospital, with medical staff battling their better losing the battle and after lunchtime, the confirmation of the news that the nine—year—old also died after yesterday�*s attack and her family paying distributor, saying to keep smiling and dancing i�*d love to do our process, you are always a princess, and no one can change that. so, the first pictures there of all three of the bills, just bringing home, isuppose, when you see those pictures the age of the girls we are talking about. this was primary school ages, this dance class in the holidays and celebrating taylor swift, her music and of course the singer has put out her own statement earlier today and we will get to bat a little later in the programme but those other first details of the names, the pictures, let me bring you back in because we
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were talking to you about the variety of lines of the police investigation and each treatment keeps returning to the fundamental request from the police for people not to speculate but people are searching for answers and at the moment there are very few. yeah, i think the reason _ moment there are very few. yeah, i think the reason why, _ moment there are very few. yeah, i think the reason why, one _ moment there are very few. yeah, i think the reason why, one reason i moment there are very few. yeah, i l think the reason why, one reason why the police are doing that is because of an incident that happened 18 months ago and in the north west of england, you might remember that was the sad case of nickel a bully and on that occasion of course the it was hijacked, its particularly by social media, the responses at that time and as a result of that, there was an inquiry by the police which was an inquiry by the police which was published last november. it is all available on their website should anybody wish to read it and it does say that the lancashire
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police was professional overall, there were events which effectively overshadowed that investigation, that was the influence of social media and i think merseyside police will, they will be aware of that and they will want to minimise as much as they can the influence of that and they will want to stay in control of the media output, if you like, which is why i said earlier, if you noticed the press releases and the press conferences so far have been very matter—of—fact with very little speculation and i would imagine that will continue. i suspect all of those officials are well aware of what it says in terms of the law that covers areas like this and that is of course one of the reasons why there is no name attached to the 17—year—old who has been arrested is given the age of the person that we are talking
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about. a final thought though, because the community very clearly need support, the families absolutely obviously, the police reference the very support staff that are with all of those families. in terms of the emergency services, the police who are very close links with, i had a winning interview yesterday saying that actually things are very different to how they were perhaps a generation ago in terms of the amount of support those offices will get in a situation like this.- those offices will get in a situation like this. , . ,., situation like this. very much so, durin: situation like this. very much so, during my _ situation like this. very much so, during my service _ situation like this. very much so, during my service in _ situation like this. very much so, during my service in my - situation like this. very much so, during my service in my time - situation like this. very much so, during my service in my time it . situation like this. very much so, l during my service in my time it was very patchy, if at all, there was a very patchy, if at all, there was a very little support, there was very little recognition of what trauma could be when people reflected on what they had actually witnessed and... and seen, like those officers and... and seen, like those officers and other first responders and... and seen, like those officers and otherfirst responders but i�*m happy to say that has changed hundred percent and there are goods
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professional services available available in situations like this, and in fact there is a proactive campaign to encourage officers and otherfirst responders campaign to encourage officers and other first responders to access those services. so, they are there now but it has been a long struggle but to answer the question in short term, yes they are there but i think, oh you know, we have had to learn the hard way temperatures look to be closer to normal for the time of year. thank you forjoining us here on bbc news. let�*s head back to southport. since we came away from you we saw those officials from everton football club arriving to pay their tributes but the politicians have also been there. the home secretary was there this morning. just remind
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our viewers what she said when she was there, because she was clearly moved when she was there kneeling at the flowers, leaving her tributes and flowers and cards.— and flowers and cards. yeah, absolutely. _ and flowers and cards. yeah, absolutely, matty. _ and flowers and cards. yeah, - absolutely, matty. interestingly, you say what she said, she didn�*t say anything when she was actually here at the scene. and that is often unusual when a politician comes to do something, they will answer a question from the media. we had none of that today so yvette cooper came with her flowers. of that today so yvette cooper came with herflowers. she laid of that today so yvette cooper came with her flowers. she laid the flowers. she was joined with her flowers. she laid the flowers. she wasjoined by with her flowers. she laid the flowers. she was joined by the local mp here and also members of merseyside police force. and it was unusual, both myself and my other colleagues who were here, how it was absolutely quiet. members of the public fell silent. the press fell silent and all you could hear was the clicking of the cameras going. nothing else.

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