this go on to a list and groups like this go on to a list and be banned? i groups like this go on to a list and be banned?— groups like this go on to a list and be banned? ~ , h , i, i, , be banned? i think prescription does have its place _ be banned? i think prescription does have its place and _ be banned? i think prescription does have its place and there _ be banned? i think prescription does have its place and there is _ be banned? i think prescription does have its place and there is an - be banned? i think prescription does have its place and there is an issue | have its place and there is an issue over whether it would be effective or not to ban groups that have officially been disbanded but are still active in some ways. we should look at that urgently but it is only part of the picture given actually you have to have the same ringleaders, the same people who can be active and are able at very quick notice now to build up these fluid, unofficial groupings. it can take a matter of hours, you can create a new telegram channel and be able to organise through that. so i think being at the forefront of what we can do in terms of clamping down on criminal incitement and organising

on social media is something we also urgently need to look at, including the way that hostile states have been able to wrap this up systematically. there is a real need to be able to go after that capability urgently and have more resources to shut it down.- capability urgently and have more resources to shut it down. thank you very much- — tim montgomerie. coco khan and the uk director of more in common luke tryl. he was talking about hostile state involvement. any insight into that, luke? it involvement. any insight into that, luke? , m ., ., luke? it is difficult to have insiaht luke? it is difficult to have insight and _ luke? it is difficult to have insight and others - luke? it is difficult to have insight and others will - luke? it is difficult to have l insight and others will know luke? it is difficult to have - insight and others will know more than me _ insight and others will know more than me but there seems to be a recurring — than me but there seems to be a recurring suggestion that hostile actors _ recurring suggestion that hostile actors want to weaponise events and moments _ actors want to weaponise events and moments like this and i think we have _ moments like this and i think we have to — moments like this and i think we have to be — moments like this and i think we have to be aware and a life to it. there _ have to be aware and a life to it. there are — have to be aware and a life to it. there are new fronts of international conflict now, the spread — international conflict now, the spread of— international conflict now, the spread of this information, misinformation designed to disrupt states _ misinformation designed to disrupt states. ., , ., ~ misinformation designed to disrupt states. . , ., ,, ., states. he was talking about potentially _ states. he was talking about potentially proscribing - potentially proscribing these organisations. do you think cracking

down hard is the answer? fipen organisations. do you think cracking down hard is the answer?— organisations. do you think cracking down hard is the answer? open to any kind of law-enforcement _ down hard is the answer? open to any kind of law-enforcement measure - down hard is the answer? open to any| kind of law-enforcement measure that kind of law—enforcement measure that deals with these thugs. they cannot be the representative of any community in britain. the fact that you have british muslims, huge contributors to our society, most of them are good people, the fact that they are frightened tonight because of these yobs, we need the full power and the force of law to crack down and i would support pretty authoritarian measures to ensure those communities feel safe. we've seen some — those communities feel safe. we've seen some rather— those communities feel safe. we've seen some rather powerful, - those communities feel safe. we've seen some rather powerful, wonderful scenes, the imam talking about the community in southport, the reaction, going from the worst day of his life to the best day of his life, the community helping him. similarly we heard from sunderland, a similar conversation being had. i think that's really heartening because _ think that's really heartening because sometimes- think that's really heartening because sometimes you - think that's really heartening because sometimes you cani think that's really heartening - because sometimes you can read stuff online _ because sometimes you can read stuff online and _ because sometimes you can read stuff online and you — because sometimes you can read stuff online and you have _ because sometimes you can read stuff online and you have to _ because sometimes you can read stuff

online and you have to go _ because sometimes you can read stuff online and you have to go out - because sometimes you can read stuff online and you have to go out and - online and you have to go out and smell_ online and you have to go out and smell the — online and you have to go out and smell the air~ _ online and you have to go out and smell the air. in— online and you have to go out and smell the air. in reality— smell the air. in reality communities— smell the air. in reality communities are - smell the air. in reality communities are much| smell the air. in reality- communities are much more smell the air. in reality— communities are much more cohesive and loving _ communities are much more cohesive and loving and — communities are much more cohesive and loving and caring. _ communities are much more cohesive and loving and caring. mixed - communities are much more cohesive and loving and caring. mixed race, . and loving and caring. mixed race, i'm in_ and loving and caring. mixed race, i'm ina— and loving and caring. mixed race, i'm ina mixed_ and loving and caring. mixed race, i'm in a mixed race... _ and loving and caring. mixed race, i'm in a mixed race... we - and loving and caring. mixed race, i'm in a mixed race... we are- and loving and caring. mixed race, | i'm in a mixed race... we are doing multiculturalism _ i'm in a mixed race... we are doing multiculturalism quite _ i'm in a mixed race... we are doing multiculturalism quite well. - i'm in a mixed race... we are doing multiculturalism quite well. let's. multiculturalism quite well. let's put some — multiculturalism quite well. let's put some money— multiculturalism quite well. let's put some money towards - multiculturalism quite well. let's put some money towards it. - multiculturalism quite well. let'si put some money towards it. what brings— put some money towards it. what brings people _ put some money towards it. what brings people together? - put some money towards it. what brings people together? it’s- put some money towards it. what brings people together?— brings people together? it's not “ust about brings people together? it's not just about money, _ brings people together? it's not just about money, though. - brings people together? it's not just about money, though. i - brings people together? it's not. just about money, though. i largely agree, integration is good but there are pockets where it is awful and communities feel very divided and that there is a two tier form of policing. that there is a two tier form of olicinu. ., that there is a two tier form of olicinu. . ., that there is a two tier form of olicinu. ., ., , ., , ., policing. part of it is money and art of it policing. part of it is money and part of it is _ policing. part of it is money and part of it is requirements. - policing. part of it is money and part of it is requirements. it - policing. part of it is money and i part of it is requirements. it has been _ part of it is requirements. it has been neglected by successive governments who don't want to talk about— governments who don't want to talk about integration. we governments who don't want to talk about integration.— about integration. we have to leave it there because _ about integration. we have to leave it there because we _ about integration. we have to leave it there because we have _ about integration. we have to leave it there because we have run - about integration. we have to leave it there because we have run out. about integration. we have to leave it there because we have run out of| it there because we have run out of time. i'm back on monday. till then, have a lovely weekend. goodnight.

you're watching bbc news. hello, i'm azadeh moshiri. we believe with we begin with violence in sunderland. a police office has been attacked and the property next to it set alight, as protesters clashed with police in sunderland tonight during a demonstration linked to the southport knife attack. northumbria police said its officers had been "subjected to serious violence" and have advised members of the public to avoid the area. earlier, police in riot gear were pelted with beer cans and stones outside a mosque in the city. mounted officers pushed back demonstrators, some of whom were in masks. members of the crowd chanted in support of far—right activist tommy robinson, while others shouted racist slurs. cars in the city centre have also been targeted by the group, with one overturned car being set on fire.

in response, yvette cooper took to x, writing... events in sunderland are the latest in a series of disturbances in a number of english towns this week, after three children were fatally stabbed in southport on monday. our home editor mark easton reports from sunderland. there were fears of violent far right protests that could turn into an all night to all out riot. police were doled out to deal with a wave of criminality. around the next corner, a taxi overturned and satellite. about 4—500 protesters

here in the centre of sunderland, we've got a police helicopter overhead — you can probably see the right squads just getting out of their van, we've had police on horseback charging through the crowd to disperse them. but it's a strange scene, to be honest, because you've got the hard right mask the olives hurling bricks at the police lines — then you've got families all wearing england tops tearing them along. i've seen babies and pushchairs, very small children on the march, and scores of teenagers, young boys and scores of teenagers, young boys and girls club all dressed up to their nines out on a friday night just looking for a bit of excitement. gathering missiles to throw it police officers. "head for the mosques," shouted one. as fears grew that the town might descend into major public disorder. mark

easton, bbc news, sunderland. let's now get the latest from mark. we know that a large group of youths have been looting and smashing shops in the town centre, in the high street here in sunderland. we're also getting reports that the police office in the high street in sunderland was broken into by some of the young people and has been set alight. so really, very serious disturbances going on in the centre of sunderland this evening. my understanding is that the police here have actually called for reinforcements, they're worried that the protest is too difficult for them to contain using their own resources. all police leave has been cancelled for tomorrow. but the situation is really extremely troubling, and i think there is still profound concern that the violence here could escalate still further. meanwhile, about 200 anti—racist protestors gathered outside

a mosque in liverpool, after reports that a far—right demonstration had been planned. our correspondent dan johnson is in liverpool. a much quieter night here in liverpool. we have seen maybe about 300 people on the street here — probably 200 of them who came out to protect, they said, their mosque, which has stood here for more than 120 years. on the other side of the road, there were perhaps about 100 people chanting anti—immigrant slogans, saying things like they wanted their country back. there were a few minor scuffles and the police had to get involved at one stge, a couple of things thrown but no serious disorder thrown, there are a huge number of police out on the streets, the helicopter as above. but of course, the focus of everything this week has been the tragic events in southport — and i was there earlier today, talking to people about how they're processing everything that has

happened in that town since monday. five days isn't long to process something so awful. and people are still struggling with everything that has hit their town this week. there's collective grief for three little girls, but at its heart are bereaved relatives. like elsie dot stancombe's great aunt, jean. it is the first time we have spoken to one of the girl's family. i was giving elsie sewing lessons because she takes after me. what was she like? she was lovely, she was so sweet and so, so gentle. so gentle. how do you think people will cope? i have no idea. i have no idea, peoplejust cope in their own ways. ijust know elsie's mum and dad are going to struggle.

really struggle. those grieving and injured were the focus of friday prayers. we want those angels to remembered for what they where, young and free, now they are dancing in the sky. that's how we want them to be remembered. on tuesday, this was the target of a riot — and they are thanking the police and the community. we want to show people - that we love them very much. we respect them very much, - and we are part of them, and i am sure they are part of us. they are in our hearts. it was humbling to see the help - and support they came and gave us. john takes spiritual support to the streets of his hometown. he's somehow staying upbeat. we're only at the beginning of

mourning for the three tragic lives and the others who were injured. but southport will recover. and there's determination that positivity will dominate this response. i think it will make the community stronger. yeah, definitely. definitely. things can only change for the better after this, you know. hopefully, anyway. elsie, seven, bebe, six, and alice, nine, the sudden loss of such youthful innocence is still impossible to comprehend. there is deep strength here, but it has been sorely tested. danjohnson, bbc news, southport. let's turn now to a diplomatic feat that's been watched around the world. in the past few hours, some of the prisoners released

by russia in the the largest prisoner swap between russia and the west since the cold war, have been holding a press conference in germany. two of the freed russian activists had a clear message. they urged the world to distinguish between russia's people and its president, as they thanked everyone who had helped secure their release and that of ia other political prisoners from russianjails. one of those released, ilya yashin — who'd been jailed for denouncing russia's war in ukraine — also warned the swap would only encourate president putin to, as he put it, "take more hostages." meanwhile, the kremlin has been giving more details about the russians who returned to moscow, as part of the huge prisoner swap, admitting that vadim krasikov — convicted of killing a former chechen rebel in berlin — was an fsb agent who served in its special forces unit. let's take a listen to some of what the russian british activist let's speak to danielle gilbert, assitant professor of politics at north western university, and a hostage expert. she also works in a bipartisan commission focusing exactly on these

sorts of hostage exchanges. professor gilbert, it's good to have you now. this is such a joyous and important moment for the families, and for the country — could you just put into perspective the sheer amount of work that goes into a moment like this? i amount of work that goes into a moment like this?— moment like this? i share with you that excitement _ moment like this? i share with you that excitement for _ moment like this? i share with you that excitement for the _ moment like this? i share with you that excitement for the families, i that excitement for the families, for the prisoners and hostages who are returning home after months, if not years of brutal captivity. and also for the diplomats and officials who have been working on this behind—the—scenes for quite some time. i've been astounded by the investigative reporting that has come out in the last 2a hours about everything that went into this deal. there were diplomatic channels at the highest levels, leaders from seven different countries involved in the swap that were speaking at the highest levels, as well as spies and intelligence officials that had been meeting in back channels to

figure out how to make this complex multiparty deal go forward. so folks have been working on this for quite some time. have been working on this for quite some time-— some time. wright, danielle, the scale ou some time. wright, danielle, the scale you just _ some time. wright, danielle, the scale you just laid _ some time. wright, danielle, the scale you just laid out _ some time. wright, danielle, the scale you just laid out there - scale you just laid out there is huge — but despite what a joyous and wonderful moment this is for the families, is there not the risk — some are saying president putin will look at this and think, "this worked out pretty well, why not do it again?" out pretty well, why not do it auain?" �* , ., out pretty well, why not do it main?" �*, ., ., out pretty well, why not do it aain?�* �*, . . , ., again?" it's a great question - hostaue again?" it's a great question - hostage taking _ again?" it's a great question - hostage taking is _ again?" it's a great question - hostage taking is a _ again?" it's a great question - hostage taking is a crime - again?" it's a great question - hostage taking is a crime as i again?" it's a great question - l hostage taking is a crime as old as the written word, and perpetrators typically engage in this kind of coercive captivity because they know it works to get back the concessions in prisoners, and whatever they're asking for. at the same time, we might ask whether vladimir putin would be doing this anyway — he is intent on a crackdown on dissidents, on opposition leaders, on journalists, and he is arresting people that serve his own domestic

clinical needs regardless if he'll ever get prisoners in return. so, rather than worry about denying concessions as a way to prevent this going forward, i think the governments involved in the swap decided that there was a moral imperative to work on getting their people home, and try to figure out other ways to make vladimir putin experience consequences for engaging in this kind of unlawful, unjust behaviour. in this kind of unlawful, un'ust behaviounfi in this kind of unlawful, un'ust behaviour. ,, ., , , behaviour. danielle, i know this is art of behaviour. danielle, i know this is part of the — behaviour. danielle, i know this is part of the work _ behaviour. danielle, i know this is part of the work you're _ behaviour. danielle, i know this is part of the work you're doing - part of the work you're doing on this commission — what are some of those solutions then to deter countries from doing this again? because of course, iran is another country engaged, such as one who was unlawfully imprisoned, he actually works with you. unlawfully imprisoned, he actually works with yon-— unlawfully imprisoned, he actually works with you. there are a handful of countries — works with you. there are a handful of countries that _ works with you. there are a handful of countries that are _ works with you. there are a handful of countries that are increasingly i of countries that are increasingly engaging in this kind of behaviour, including iran and russia — those have been the two worst

perpetrators, the worst bad actors of this practice in recent years. there are a few different policy tools that countries are trying to come up with on how to curve this practice. the first is simply try and prevent it in the first place — how can governments educate their citizens about risky travel, what kind of travel warnings and restrictions can they impose to keep their citizens from travelling to these kinds of places? but also, what kind of coordinated tools can governments engage in that might affect this practice going forward? so that looks like sanctions, different kinds of targeted sanctions, visa restrictions for the kinds of officials that have been involved responsible for, or complicit in this kind of behaviour. and there's also efforts for governments to co—ordinate in the international system perhaps to come up international system perhaps to come up with new treaty language or international cooperation that might set a bright line between those

countries that are opposed to this practice and those bad actors that will have to show that they change their behaviour to receive a welcome back into the international system in fair standing with those countries once again. danielle gilbert, thank— countries once again. danielle gilbert, thank you _ countries once again. danielle gilbert, thank you so - countries once again. danielle gilbert, thank you so much i countries once again. danielle | gilbert, thank you so much for countries once again. danielle - gilbert, thank you so much for your time, really appreciate your expertise there. the political leader of hamas, ismail haniyeh, has been buried in qatar where he lived and played a key role in ceasefire negotiations about the war in gaza. he was killed in iran on wednesday. with mourners calling for revenge, there are fears of a slide towards all—out war in the middle east. hamas and its main backer, iran, have both vowed to retaliate against israel, which is widely blamed for the killing. from doha, our senior international correspondent 0rla guerin reports.

doha's largest mosque, the setting for funeral prayers for ismail haniyeh. qatar has been his base for years. and in punishing heat, thousands came to mourn the slain leader of hamas. among the crowd, many had the same demand. we will look for revenge. yes, yes, i'm very honest with you, we will look for revenge. may i ask, do you fear now that there could be all out war in the region, that there could now be a bigger war taking place? yes we are... now it could be very danger, and it could be the world war iii. but maybe that's what israel look for? and israel is widely accused of tracking him down in tehran and killing him. here he was on tuesday in the heart of the iranian regime. he didn't live to see the next morning. in hamas terms, he was viewed as a moderate.

in uk and us terms, he led a terrorist organisation. to many here, including these visitors from britain, he defended an oppressed people. i'm actually quite deeply saddened. he was a good man, and he stood up for good as well. so it's a hard time for everybody. the palestinian cause is one that moves many, so it's a sad day for everyone. mourners are still arriving here, streaming in to say prayers for ismail haniyeh. his assassination has reverberated around the region. the question is, what comes next? there will be retaliation by iran, but how severe, and will things escalate into all out regional war? for now, the main battlefield is gaza. israeli troops advancing whatever the cost. palestinian sources say haniyeh was pushing for a ceasefire deal

before he was blown to pieces. today he was mourned, soon he'll be replaced. it's not the end of hamas. but it is one more escalation in a region nearing boiling point. 0rla guerin, bbc news, doha. the second of two female fighters competing in the women's boxing, despite failing gender eligibility tests for the world championships, won her fight today. taiwan's lin yu—ting joins algerian imane khelif in the next round — khelif beat her italian opponent in just 46 seconds yesterday. both women had been tested by the international boxing association before the world championships — and while not revealing the type of test they undertook,

the iba has told the bbc that both women were found to have xy chromosomes — the combination for a man. the international olympic committee no longer recognises the iba — and has allowed them to compete using its criteria. 0ur sports editor dan roan reports from paris. controversy continues to hang over this olympic boxing arena. lin yu—ting! for the second successive day, a fighter has competed in the women's competition despite reportedly failing a gender test last year. taiwan's lin yu—ting on the way to winning a first bout of the games against uzbekistan's sitora turdibekova by unanimous decision. banned by the international boxing association but allowed to fight here by the ioc, yu—ting declined to comment afterwards. what does lin say to those who say she shouldn't be here? i don't know, you enjoy the game, 0k? the controversy erupted yesterday when algerian imane khelif, another fighter banned by the iba forfailing an unspecified gender test, won herfirst bout

when opponent, angela carini, withdrew after 46 seconds, claiming she had to preserve her life. today, the italian apologised to khelif, saying she felt sorry for her — but, amid an outcry over safety, the controversy has now gone beyond boxing. it was an incredibally uncomfortable watch. and i know there is a lot of concern about women competitors as sporting bodies try to get that balance between inclusion, fairness and safety, there is a role for government to make sure that they've got the guidance and the framework and the support to make those decisions correctly. there is little information about what tests the iba carried out to decide the fighters were not eligable for women's boxing. the ioc, which is organising the boxing competition because the iba is suspended over governace issues, has said the tests were arbitrary and that the fighters meet their rules. the algerian boxer was born female, was registered female, lived her life as a female, boxed as a female, has a female passport. this is not a transgender case.

scientifically, this is not a man fighting a woman. tomorrow in this ring, khelif will fight again against a hungarian opponent and tonight in a statement the hungarian boxing association said it was raising concerns, saying they objected to khelif�*s participation as this row intensifies. commonwealth champion michaela walsh told me what she made of an issue that is casting a shadow over her sport. yeah, very sad but, like you said, they have strict rules and stick to one set of rules. but that's nothing i can control. obviously the safety of the boxers is the main thing, and we just want fairness and equality. tonight, hungarianfighter anna luca hamori said she didn't think it was fair that her next opponent, khelif, was in the women's category. at the heart of this crisis are athletes with dreams of olympic success. but in this competition, there seems to be few winners. dan roan, bbc news, paris.

it's been a a glorious day for british athletes in paris. three more gold medals, bringing the total so far to nine — team gb are now fifth in the medals table. it's been the most successful opening week at an olympics ever. laura scott has more from paris. three gold medals in just over three hours. they had waited three years to erase the memories of tokyo where they missed a medal by 100th of a second. but not this time — they were dominant. with each stroke, their grasp on gold tightened until it was finally, gloriously theirs. and the emotions soon flowed. the double sculls won't be held again, meaning they will forever be olympic champions and forever

indebted to one another. she took me from a clueless single sculler who did not know how to row a double to an olympic champion, and she has been there every single step of the way. the days when i didn't even know i could do it, ijust have to look at her and i know we'll be fine. there were points today where i needed that.

having won silver and bronze medals before, gold would take something special. this is looking good.

time for hardtalk. welcome to hardtalk, i'm stephen sackur. when the race for the white house was a rerun contest between two old white guys, it seemed likely that 78—year—old donald trump would beat 81—year—old and increasingly frail, joe biden. but now the landscape's changed. team trump has to rethink its strategy to take on the all—but—certain democratic party nominee, vice president kamala harris. younger, a woman of colour and clearly more energetic. my guest is democratic congressman adam smith. is his party now in danger of overestimating the kamala effect?