let's return to the middle east, where a rocket attack on a base in iraq wounded seven americans. a pentagon statement on a call between the us defence secretary lloyd austin and his israeli counterpart, yoav gallant, described the rocket fire as an "iran—aligned militia attack on us forces", marking what the two defined "a dangerous escalation". joining me is mark cancian, senior adviser with the center for strategic and international studies. always very good to see you, mark, thank you for taking the time to join us here. we will talk a little bit more about that meeting and that call, i should say, with the us defence secretary and his israeli counterpart, but firstly i wanted to get your reaction to the news of yahya sinwar becoming the full

leader, politicaland yahya sinwar becoming the full leader, political and military, yahya sinwar becoming the full leader, politicaland military, of hamas. and what you think this means for the war. do you think itjust became more dangerous? i for the war. do you think it “ust became more dangerous? i think it did. he is became more dangerous? i think it did- he is a — became more dangerous? i think it did- he is a very — became more dangerous? i think it did. he is a very scary _ became more dangerous? i think it did. he is a very scary guy, - became more dangerous? i think it did. he is a very scary guy, he's - became more dangerous? i think it did. he is a very scary guy, he's a l did. he is a very scary guy, he's a lifelong terrorist, he's admitted to personally murdering many palestinians he regarded as collaborators, he masterminded the october 7 attacks, he is really a secret police man, not a military quy' secret police man, not a military guy, but like saddam hussein in that regard but a lot smarter. he was and israeli prisons for 20 years and learned hebrews and studied israeli history, the biographies of senior officials, in order to fight them more effectively. he will lead the war on into very bloody directions. of war on into very bloody directions. of course the backdrop to all of this is what many people have been watching in the past few days, the prospect of an iranian attack on whether that's through iran or through its proxies on israel. of

course we've got this latest breaking news line with regards to yahya sinwar, but coming back to iran, do you have any clear idea or thoughts on what that might look like when it might strike, how it might unfold? iran like when it might strike, how it might unfold?— like when it might strike, how it miaht unfold? . . ., , ., might unfold? iran certainly will do something- — might unfold? iran certainly will do something. they _ might unfold? iran certainly will do something. they feel _ might unfold? iran certainly will do something. they feel attacked - might unfold? iran certainly will do something. they feel attacked in i might unfold? iran certainly will do i something. they feel attacked in the centre of tehran, and always strike backin centre of tehran, and always strike back in some way. we might see more attacks on us facilities in syria and iraq, as wejust attacks on us facilities in syria and iraq, as we just saw. attacks on us facilities in syria and iraq, as wejust saw. i think there is a high likelihood of some attacks on israeli organisations and institutions overseas, maybe embassies or schools or synagogues. it's possible they will try missile attacks against israel, but those failed last time, so they are likely to have the kind of effect the irradiance want. but they will do something. == irradiance want. but they will do something-— irradiance want. but they will do something. -- they are unlikely. referrin: something. -- they are unlikely. referring to _

something. -- they are unlikely. referring to that _ something. -- they are unlikely. referring to that attack - something. -- they are unlikely. referring to that attack in - something. -- they are unlikely. referring to that attack in april. | referring to that attack in april. let's touch on what lloyd austin had to say speaking to yoav gallant, and of course washington has said it is boosting its military capabilities in the region, and of course we also know we had us service personnel injured in iraq. i guess my question to you is, is there now the risk this tips over into something far more serious, greater, bringing washington in further and there could also be a miscalculation here with regards to the response from tehran? fix, with regards to the response from tehran? �* ., , , ., ., tehran? a lot depends on what the irradiance too. _ tehran? a lot depends on what the irradiance too. the _ tehran? a lot depends on what the irradiance too. the united - tehran? a lot depends on what the irradiance too. the united states . irradiance too. the united states does not want to have boots on the ground, they went out of their way during the building of this peer to keep americans off the ground, but they used defensive missiles, very extensively, to protect israel and our allies in the region, they have launched missiles at targets, threatening israel and the united

states, so i think you will see the united states doing more of that, but not putting troops on the ground or getting involved in any offensive operations against hamas, for example. i operations against hamas, for examle. ., where you think this leaves the uk, where you think this leaves the uk, where are we to see that kind of escalation of the washington becoming further embroiled? i have to ask you, do you think there are any last—ditch attempts for diplomacy here that could still come to fruition? it is diplomacy here that could still come to fruition? , ., ., , ., to fruition? it is hard to see how they could- _ to fruition? it is hard to see how they could. the _ to fruition? it is hard to see how they could. the us _ to fruition? it is hard to see how they could. the us is _ to fruition? it is hard to see how they could. the us is not - to fruition? it is hard to see how they could. the us is not some. they could. the us is not some impartial— they could. the us is not some impartial arbiter in this, it's been backing _ impartial arbiter in this, it's been backing dictatorships across the middle — backing dictatorships across the middle east for decades, it's been backing _ middle east for decades, it's been backing israel to the help, it had 'ust backing israel to the help, it had just put— backing israel to the help, it had just put out a statement today with you of— just put out a statement today with you of gallant, a man the international criminal court has an arrest _ international criminal court has an arrest warrant out against for war crimes _ arrest warrant out against for war crimes this— arrest warrant out against for war crimes. this is who the us is happy keeping _ crimes. this is who the us is happy keeping company with. 40,000 palestinians are dead and we are

talking _ palestinians are dead and we are talking about, could there be an escalation? this has isolated far enough — escalation? this has isolated far enough and the us and uk are still selling _ enough and the us and uk are still selling arms to israel of the international court ofjustice, despite — international court ofjustice, despite the arrest warrants by the international criminal court. we are packing. _ international criminal court. we are packing. as— international criminal court. we are packing, as we have done with saudi arabia, _ packing, as we have done with saudi arabia, with — packing, as we have done with saudi arabia, with saddam hussein, people committing atrocities in the middle east, _ committing atrocities in the middle east, and _ committing atrocities in the middle east, and then when iran does something through its proxies, we say, that's— something through its proxies, we say, that's bad, that's a terrible thing. _ say, that's bad, that's a terrible thing. that— say, that's bad, that's a terrible thing, that could be an escalation. is thing, that could be an escalation. is the _ thing, that could be an escalation. is the rest— thing, that could be an escalation. is the rest of the middle east supposed to sit back and let the uk and us— supposed to sit back and let the uk and us bomb who elects, support who elects. _ and us bomb who elects, support who elects. sell_ and us bomb who elects, support who elects, sell weapons to it likes? there _ elects, sell weapons to it likes? there is— elects, sell weapons to it likes? there is an _ elects, sell weapons to it likes? there is an immense double standard here and _ there is an immense double standard here and i_ there is an immense double standard here and i think it's very hard to see how— here and i think it's very hard to see how it— here and i think it's very hard to see how it is— here and i think it's very hard to see how it is de—escalated. it is a tragic— see how it is de—escalated. it is a tragic situation for the innocent people — tragic situation for the innocent pennie of— tragic situation for the innocent people of the middle east because they are _ people of the middle east because they are pawns in a much bigger game where _ they are pawns in a much bigger game where actually that is not to seem to he _ where actually that is not to seem to he a _ where actually that is not to seem to he a site — where actually that is not to seem to be a site who actually cares for the humanity of the people of that region— the humanity of the people of that region"m — the humanity of the people of that region i'm not in the uk, not in washington and not in much of the middle _ washington and not in much of the middle east in terms of the leaderships of those countries.

heartbreaking. | leaderships of those countries. heartbreaking. i do leaderships of those countries. heartbreaking.— leaderships of those countries. heartbreaking. leaderships of those countries. heartbreakina. ., . ., ., , ., heartbreaking. i do have to ask you, rina, if heartbreaking. i do have to ask you, rina. if there _ heartbreaking. i do have to ask you, rina, if there is _ heartbreaking. i do have to ask you, rina, if there is that _ heartbreaking. i do have to ask you, rina, if there is that further - rina, if there is that further escalation as andrew was talking about, attention for that being the case, knowing we are in an election cycle, knowing there is the possibility of another trump administration, how do you think that administration would look on a broader regional war in the middle east? i broader regional war in the middle east? , ~ . ~ ., east? i just think back to the former trump _ east? i just think back to the former trump administration east? i just think back to the - 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solution, that is not even in the . verbiage of anybody talking inside the beltway— verbiage of anybody talking inside the beltway here _ verbiage of anybody talking inside the beltway here in— verbiage of anybody talking inside the beltway here in washington. i verbiage of anybody talking inside i the beltway here in washington. it is a boring — -- it is —— it is abhorrent how much of a lack— —— it is abhorrent how much of a lack of— —— it is abhorrent how much of a lack of humanity— —— it is abhorrent how much of a lack of humanity is _ —— it is abhorrent how much of a lack of humanity is around. - —— it is abhorrent how much of a lack of humanity is around. i - —— it is abhorrent how much of a l lack of humanity is around. i don't trust _ lack of humanity is around. i don't trust trump — lack of humanity is around. i don't trust trump to _ lack of humanity is around. i don't trust trump to do _ lack of humanity is around. idon't trust trump to do any— lack of humanity is around. i don't trust trump to do any better - 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telling you, it is not going to| change unless we change the telling you, it is not going to - change unless we change the guard completely, — change unless we change the guard completely. and _ change unless we change the guard completely, and that's _ change unless we change the guard completely, and that's why- change unless we change the guard completely, and that's why am - completely, and that's why am looking — completely, and that's why am looking at— completely, and that's why am looking at the _ completely, and that's why am looking at the harris _ completely, and that's why am looking at the harris lost - completely, and that's why amj looking at the harris lost ticket with bigger— looking at the harris lost ticket with bigger and _ looking at the harris lost ticket with bigger and more - looking at the harris lost ticket with bigger and more open - looking at the harris lost ticketl with bigger and more open eyes looking at the harris lost ticket - with bigger and more open eyes than most americans. _ with bigger and more open eyes than most americans. —— _ with bigger and more open eyes than most americans. —— we _ with bigger and more open eyes than most americans. —— we understand l most americans. —— we understand biden— most americans. —— we understand biden and _ most americans. —— we understand biden and ligon _ most americans. —— we understand biden and ligon have _ most americans. —— we understand biden and ligon have ruined - most americans. —— we understand biden and ligon have ruined the . most americans. —— we understand i biden and ligon have ruined the game here _ biden and ligon have ruined the game here. .. biden and ligon have ruined the game here. ., , , here. you were saying things must chance, here. you were saying things must change, washington _ here. you were saying things must change, washington must - here. you were saying things must change, washington must be - here. you were saying things must. change, washington must be telling israel what to do. mark, do you think realistically that would

happen, change in administration or not? it happen, change in administration or not? , , ~ , happen, change in administration or not? , , ~' , .. happen, change in administration or not? , , ~' , happen, change in administration or not? . , ~ , . not? it is very unlikely to see a ma'or not? it is very unlikely to see a major change- _ not? it is very unlikely to see a major change. it _ not? it is very unlikely to see a major change. it is _ not? it is very unlikely to see a major change. it is a _ not? it is very unlikely to see a major change. it is a little - not? it is very unlikely to see a i major change. it is a little hard to say what harris might do because she is on the left side of the democratic party, but most of the democrats and the republicans strongly support israel and its fight for existence, and i disagree with the previous speaker about trump. trump was externally successful with the abraham accords in the persian gulf, if he had been a different person, he would have gotten a nobel prize for it. he rarely used military force. he used it once in his administration. that was against syria, they attacked an airbase. but he threatened to use military force, but he never did, so i am more optimistic about what a trump administration might do in the previous people stop what shaking your head? previous people stop what shaking our head? , previous people stop what shaking our head? . .. previous people stop what shaking our head? , ., , ., ., your head? trump to show he was enrichin: your head? trump to show he was enriching his _ your head? trump to show he was enriching his family, _ your head? trump to show he was enriching his family, those - your head? trump to show he was enriching his family, those deals, | enriching his family, those deals, whatever— enriching his family, those deals, whatever he — enriching his family, those deals, whatever he brokered _ enriching his family, those deals, whatever he brokered over- enriching his family, those deals, j whatever he brokered over there, enriching his family, those deals, . whatever he brokered over there, it

was all— whatever he brokered over there, it was all done — whatever he brokered over there, it was all done in _ whatever he brokered over there, it was all done in the _ whatever he brokered over there, it was all done in the dark— whatever he brokered over there, it was all done in the dark of- was all done in the dark of night, he tried — was all done in the dark of night, he tried to — was all done in the dark of night, he tried to show _ was all done in the dark of night, he tried to show an _ was all done in the dark of night, he tried to show an open... - was all done in the dark of night, l he tried to show an open... it was all smoke — he tried to show an open... it was all smoke and _ he tried to show an open... it was all smoke and mirrors _ he tried to show an open... it was all smoke and mirrors with - he tried to show an open... it wasl all smoke and mirrors with trump. he tried to show an open... it was - all smoke and mirrors with trump. we can say— all smoke and mirrors with trump. we can say what— all smoke and mirrors with trump. we can say what we — all smoke and mirrors with trump. we can say what we want _ all smoke and mirrors with trump. we can say what we want on _ all smoke and mirrors with trump. we can say what we want on the _ all smoke and mirrors with trump. we can say what we want on the policy- can say what we want on the policy front _ can say what we want on the policy front but _ can say what we want on the policy front but we — can say what we want on the policy front but we know _ can say what we want on the policy front but we know his _ can say what we want on the policy front but we know his family - can say what we want on the policy front but we know his family camel front but we know his family came out of— front but we know his family came out of millions _ front but we know his family came out of millions if— front but we know his family came out of millions if not _ front but we know his family came out of millions if not billions - front but we know his family came out of millions if not billions of. out of millions if not billions of dollars. — out of millions if not billions of dollars, enriched _ out of millions if not billions of dollars, enriched by— out of millions if not billions of dollars, enriched by whateverl out of millions if not billions of- dollars, enriched by whatever they were doing — dollars, enriched by whatever they were doing over— dollars, enriched by whatever they were doing over here _ dollars, enriched by whatever they were doing over here and - dollars, enriched by whatever they were doing over here and there. . dollars, enriched by whatever they. were doing over here and there. they try to _ were doing over here and there. they try to smile _ were doing over here and there. they try to smile and — were doing over here and there. they try to smile and nod _ were doing over here and there. they try to smile and nod and _ were doing over here and there. they try to smile and nod and say- were doing over here and there. they try to smile and nod and say it- were doing over here and there. they try to smile and nod and say it was. try to smile and nod and say it was all good _ try to smile and nod and say it was all good but — try to smile and nod and say it was all good but i — try to smile and nod and say it was all good but i think we _ try to smile and nod and say it was all good but i think we arrived - all good but i think we arrived at october— all good but i think we arrived at october 7— all good but i think we arrived at october 7 because _ all good but i think we arrived at october 7 because trump - all good but i think we arrived at| october 7 because trump set the stage _ october 7 because trump set the stage for— october 7 because trump set the stage for that _ october 7 because trump set the stage for that and _ october 7 because trump set the stage for that and i _ october 7 because trump set the stage for that and i am _ october 7 because trump set the stage for that and i am summit. october 7 because trump set the i stage for that and i am summit who does not _ stage for that and i am summit who does not want — stage for that and i am summit who does not want more, _ stage for that and i am summit who does not want more, i— stage for that and i am summit who does not want more, i want - stage for that and i am summit who does not want more, i want peace. i am tired — does not want more, i want peace. i am tired of— does not want more, i want peace. i am tired of the — does not want more, i want peace. i am tired of the american— does not want more, i want peace. i am tired of the american military. am tired of the american military industrial complex— am tired of the american military industrial complex enriching - am tired of the american militaryl industrial complex enriching itself and i'm _ industrial complex enriching itself and im tired _ industrial complex enriching itself and i'm tired of— industrial complex enriching itself and i'm tired of former— industrial complex enriching itself and i'm tired of former presidents doing _ and i'm tired of former presidents doing that — and i'm tired of former presidents doinu that. a ~ and i'm tired of former presidents doinu that. ~ . . . and i'm tired of former presidents doing that-— doing that. mark cancian, we will have to say _ doing that. mark cancian, we will have to say goodbye _ doing that. mark cancian, we will have to say goodbye to _ doing that. mark cancian, we will have to say goodbye to you - doing that. mark cancian, we will have to say goodbye to you now. | have to say goodbye to you now. thanks for sharing your thoughts with us here on the context on bbc news. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news.

we are on tropical storm debby watch at this hour. it's expected to bring downpours and flooding to historic southern us cities, including savannah in georgia. debby slammed into florida as a category one hurricane, killing five people, before weakening

to a tropical storm. a state of emergency was declared. some people in the state had only just finished repairing their homes after hurricane idalia. but even a weaker tropical storm brings distinct dangers with it — namely rain, and lots of it. the national hurricane centre warned of a "life—threatening" flood threat as the slow—moving storm soaks part of the us southeast. and the science says that slow—moving storms are just one consequence of climate change. let's cross live now tojonathan erdman — senior meteorologist at weather.com. very good to have you with us. one thing i want to touch on is the fact that storm to initially had as a hurricane but to just talk to us about how, i guess, wet, to very basic about this storm, it actually is and how much of a problem that can actually present, the storm surge or —— stormer debby.

can actually present, the storm surge or -- stormer debby. yes, troical surge or -- stormer debby. yes, tropical storms _ surge or -- stormer debby. yes, tropical storms and _ surge or —— stormer debby. ye: tropical storms and hurricanes are categorised how strong the winds blow, but in debbie's is, that is not important. what is important is how debby is moving. over the next 36-48 how debby is moving. over the next 36—48 hours, debby may only move about the coast, so all the things held equal, slow—moving tropical storms and hurricanes can produce prolific rainfall totals and in this case we may see totals will over 20 inches and parts of the carolinas. just talk to us more about and the role the science when it comes to climate change, scientists and climate change, scientists and climate change, scientists and climate change can have a role in making these storms more rainy, more persistent, and ultimately i suppose more deadly? first persistent, and ultimately i suppose more deadly?— more deadly? first in a warming climate we _ more deadly? first in a warming climate we expect _ more deadly? first in a warming climate we expect more - more deadly? first in a warming climate we expect more water . more deadly? first in a warming - climate we expect more water vapour into air, more evaporation... i think we just lost you there. could you tell us more about the impact of

climate change? i think unfortunately, john may have frozen, hopefully not impacted by any storm, let's go over to our panel to discuss a little bit more of this. rina, firstly coming to you, i have to say i was covering the hurricane in florida just last year, many people, they've onlyjust recovered, they were not able to get insurance for their homes for example, now they are facing this. when you look at the climate policy of the candidates and climate being discussed in this presidential election, do you think is being talked about enough? absolutely not. this summer — talked about enough? absolutely not. this summer in _ talked about enough? absolutely not. this summer in washington, - talked about enough? absolutely not. this summer in washington, dc, - talked about enough? absolutely not. this summer in washington, dc, one | this summer in washington, dc, one of the _ this summer in washington, dc, one of the hottest — this summer in washington, dc, one of the hottest on _ this summer in washington, dc, one of the hottest on record, _ this summer in washington, dc, one of the hottest on record, and - this summer in washington, dc, one of the hottest on record, and if- of the hottest on record, and if you're — of the hottest on record, and if you're not— of the hottest on record, and if you're not acknowledging - of the hottest on record, and if you're not acknowledging and i you're not acknowledging and changing _ you're not acknowledging and changing climate _ you're not acknowledging and changing climate around - you're not acknowledging and changing climate around you, j you're not acknowledging and - changing climate around you, are you acknowledging — changing climate around you, are you acknowledging a _ changing climate around you, are you acknowledging a reality? _ changing climate around you, are you acknowledging a reality? it _ changing climate around you, are you acknowledging a reality? it is - acknowledging a reality? it is directly— acknowledging a reality? it is directly related _ acknowledging a reality? it is directly related to _ acknowledging a reality? it is directly related to humid - acknowledging a reality? it is - directly related to humid behaviour. where _ directly related to humid behaviour. where we _ directly related to humid behaviour. where we dispose _ directly related to humid behaviour. where we dispose our— directly related to humid behaviour. where we dispose our trash- directly related to humid behaviour. where we dispose our trash from i directly related to humid behaviour. j where we dispose our trash from all this is— where we dispose our trash from all this is circular, _ where we dispose our trash from all this is circular, and _ where we dispose our trash from all

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believe will be more responsible in their talk on climate, will they get| their talk on climate, will they get their talk on climate, will they get the more — their talk on climate, will they get the more moderate _ their talk on climate, will they get the more moderate segment- their talk on climate, will they get the more moderate segment of. the more moderate segment of american — the more moderate segment of american voters _ the more moderate segment of american voters to _ the more moderate segment ofl american voters to acknowledge the more moderate segment of- american voters to acknowledge what they seem _ american voters to acknowledge what they seem to— american voters to acknowledge what they seem to acknowledge, _ american voters to acknowledge what they seem to acknowledge, we - american voters to acknowledge what they seem to acknowledge, we can i they seem to acknowledge, we can change _ they seem to acknowledge, we can change certain— they seem to acknowledge, we can change certain things _ they seem to acknowledge, we can change certain things in _ they seem to acknowledge, we can change certain things in our- change certain things in our society, _ change certain things in our society. ask— change certain things in our society, ask corporations i change certain things in our society, ask corporations to change certain things in our- society, ask corporations to the right— society, ask corporations to the right thing. _ society, ask corporations to the right thing, while _ society, ask corporations to the right thing, while again - right thing, while again acknowledging - right thing, while again acknowledging what. right thing, while againl acknowledging what the right thing, while again - acknowledging what the southern right thing, while again _ acknowledging what the southern part of our _ acknowledging what the southern part of our country — acknowledging what the southern part of our country is — acknowledging what the southern part of our country is dealing _ acknowledging what the southern part of our country is dealing with, - of our country is dealing with, record — of our country is dealing with, record high— of our country is dealing with, record high temperatures, - of our country is dealing with,| record high temperatures, not of our country is dealing with, - record high temperatures, notjust in the _ record high temperatures, notjust in the summertime _ record high temperatures, notjust in the summertime but— record high temperatures, notjust in the summertime but around - record high temperatures, notjust in the summertime but around thej in the summertime but around the year? _ in the summertime but around the year? there — in the summertime but around the year? there are _ in the summertime but around the year? there are republicans - in the summertime but around the year? there are republicans in - year? there are republicans in miami, — year? there are republicans in miami, florida, _ year? there are republicans in miami, florida, who— year? there are republicans in miami, florida, who have - year? there are republicans in miami, florida, who have long| miami, florida, who have long knowledge _ miami, florida, who have long knowledge miami _ miami, florida, who have long knowledge miami might- miami, florida, who have long knowledge miami might ceasej miami, florida, who have long. knowledge miami might cease to miami, florida, who have long - knowledge miami might cease to be examined _ knowledge miami might cease to be examined exist _ knowledge miami might cease to be examined exist sometime _ knowledge miami might cease to be examined exist sometime in- knowledge miami might cease to be examined exist sometime in our- examined exist sometime in our lifetimes — examined exist sometime in our lifetimes so _ examined exist sometime in our lifetimes so i _ examined exist sometime in our lifetimes so i think— examined exist sometime in our lifetimes so i think a _ examined exist sometime in our| lifetimes so i think a responsible climate — lifetimes so i think a responsible climate narrative _ lifetimes so i think a responsible climate narrative is _ lifetimes so i think a responsible climate narrative is needed - lifetimes so i think a responsible climate narrative is needed fromj lifetimes so i think a responsible - climate narrative is needed from the film climate narrative is needed from the right and _ climate narrative is needed from the right and i— climate narrative is needed from the right and i think— climate narrative is needed from the right and i think it's— climate narrative is needed from the right and i think it's possible, - right and i think it's possible, there — right and i think it's possible, there is— right and i think it's possible, there is an _ right and i think it's possible, there is an organisation - right and i think it's possible, there is an organisation cold i right and i think it's possible, i there is an organisation cold the american — there is an organisation cold the american conservation - there is an organisation cold the | american conservation coalition, mostly— american conservation coalition, mostly millennials_ american conservation coalition, mostly millennials and _ american conservation coalition, mostly millennials and gen - 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they are try to put that forward, trying to inject normalcy- they are try to put that forward, trying to inject normalcy back. they are try to put that forward, l trying to inject normalcy back into the debate — trying to inject normalcy back into the debate about _ trying to inject normalcy back into the debate about environment - trying to inject normalcy back into| the debate about environment and energy _ the debate about environment and ener _ . ., ., ., the debate about environment and ener: . . the debate about environment and ener. i ., ., ., ., i., ., energy. jonathan, coming to you on that oint, energy. jonathan, coming to you on that point, those _ energy. jonathan, coming to you on that point, those heat _ energy. jonathan, coming to you on that point, those heat domes - energy. jonathan, coming to you on that point, those heat domes we i energy. jonathan, coming to you on i that point, those heat domes we have seenin that point, those heat domes we have seen in the likes of miami, california, wildfires, hurricanes happening earlier and earlier than usualfor the united happening earlier and earlier than usual for the united states, studying the weather as you do over so many years, just talk to us about the changes you have seen at the hands of climate change they are in the united states. the hands of climate change they are in the united states.— the united states. the thinking is that the earth _ the united states. the thinking is that the earth is _ the united states. the thinking is that the earth is not _ the united states. the thinking is that the earth is not warming - that the earth is not warming uniformly, so the arctic platitudes are actually warming faster than the tropical latitudes, so what can happen, then, is the steering winds for hurricanes, for weather systems can actually slow down, the jet stream becomes more wavy and does these buckles, so what can happen is you can get more persistent weather patterns lasting longer, these heat domes, longer heat waves, and in the particular case of, say, something like debby, it is steering winds

that are actually weaker. we could see more of the slow—moving tropical storms and hurricanes in warmer world. it storms and hurricanes in warmer world. , ., world. it is not quite the same in the uk but _ world. it is not quite the same in the uk but people _ world. it is not quite the same in the uk but people here - world. it is not quite the same in the uk but people here have - world. it is not quite the same in l the uk but people here have been dealing with a far cooler summer than usual. andrew, coming to you on that point, starmer�*s new cabinet obviously has had a lot to deal with recently in his first few weeks in power, but have climate policies been getting the building that you would like to see?— been getting the building that you would like to see? yeah, it played a reuional would like to see? yeah, it played a regional part _ would like to see? yeah, it played a regional part in _ would like to see? yeah, it played a regional part in the _ would like to see? yeah, it played a regional part in the election - regional part in the election campaign for labour, the great british— campaign for labour, the great british energy corporation they are trying _ british energy corporation they are trying to— british energy corporation they are trying to set up, the talk of a national— trying to set up, the talk of a national wealth front for renewables, will be a bigger bigger part of— renewables, will be a bigger bigger part of the narrative. the key for politicians — part of the narrative. the key for politicians is to sell this is a win-win— politicians is to sell this is a win—win and make sure to deliver it, more _ win—win and make sure to deliver it, more importantly, as a win—win for consumers. — more importantly, as a win—win for consumers, because there's a lot of fears— consumers, because there's a lot of fears this _ consumers, because there's a lot of fears this will mean extra cost for consumers — fears this will mean extra cost for consumers and that is why it is important _ consumers and that is why it is important there is public investment

and public— important there is public investment and public control of some of this investment so we don't see the kind of profiteering that means prices go for consumers. we need to talk about home _ for consumers. we need to talk about home insulation, that is a really bil home insulation, that is a really big part — home insulation, that is a really big part here in the uk where it is a bit— big part here in the uk where it is a bit colder, — big part here in the uk where it is a bit colder, parts of the us, that applies— a bit colder, parts of the us, that applies as — a bit colder, parts of the us, that applies as well, and there is an argument — applies as well, and there is an argument here about, we can get your pills down, _ argument here about, we can get your pills down, we can tackle climate change. — pills down, we can tackle climate change, we can improve your standard of living _ change, we can improve your standard of living all— change, we can improve your standard of living all in — change, we can improve your standard of living all in the same package. we can— of living all in the same package. we can create newjobs in new industries _ we can create newjobs in new industries as well and it's making sure the policies deliver on that. otherwise — sure the policies deliver on that. otherwise we'll see this kind of populist — otherwise we'll see this kind of populist backlash that isjust outright denial nihilism, like we've seen _ outright denial nihilism, like we've seen in _ outright denial nihilism, like we've seen in the — outright denial nihilism, like we've seen in the us about rounds trump and that— seen in the us about rounds trump and that wing of the republican. our anel will and that wing of the republican. oi" panel will stay with us. jonathan erdman, thank you for being with us. now it's time for the panel. we have unfortunately run out of time fairly short, but nevertheless, andrew, coming to you first, i know

you want to talk about another environmental topic — thames water, northumbria water facing some significant fines over spillage is. tell us more.— tell us more. yes, the water regulator _ tell us more. yes, the water regulator off _ tell us more. yes, the water regulator off what _ tell us more. yes, the water regulator off what has - tell us more. yes, the water i regulator off what has basically issued — regulator off what has basically issued a — regulator off what has basically issued a record find to thames water. — issued a record find to thames water, which is the biggest water company— water, which is the biggest water company in the uk today. but that needs— company in the uk today. but that needs to _ company in the uk today. but that needs to be put in context. it was a fine of— needs to be put in context. it was a fine of £104— needs to be put in context. it was a fine of £104 million on the amount of sewage — fine of £104 million on the amount of sewage the spills and rivers and seas doubled in the last year, thames— seas doubled in the last year, thames water made £398 million worth of profit _ thames water made £398 million worth of profit last year. it has just been — of profit last year. it has just been allowed last month by the same regular— been allowed last month by the same regular to _ been allowed last month by the same regular to hike bills by 21% over the next — regular to hike bills by 21% over the next five years. there's a lot of parts — the next five years. there's a lot of parts to — the next five years. there's a lot of parts to this story that is in the one — of parts to this story that is in the one hand giving the water companies more money to profiteer from and _ companies more money to profiteer from and at — companies more money to profiteer from and at the same time giving them _ from and at the same time giving them a _ from and at the same time giving them a wrap on the knuckles. thames water— them a wrap on the knuckles. thames water is _ them a wrap on the knuckles. thames water is basically bankrupt. it could — water is basically bankrupt. it could be — water is basically bankrupt. it could be taken into public ownership at any— could be taken into public ownership at any time — could be taken into public ownership at any time for virtually nothing because — at any time for virtually nothing because it —

at any time for virtually nothing because it is worthless, frankly, since _ because it is worthless, frankly, since so — because it is worthless, frankly, since so much debt, far greater that its book— since so much debt, far greater that its book value, and that is what needs— its book value, and that is what needs to — its book value, and that is what needs to happen. we are one of the few countries in europe, certainly the only— few countries in europe, certainly the only major country in europe, and as— the only major country in europe, and as ever— the only major country in europe, and as ever privatise its water. these — and as ever privatise its water. these are _ and as ever privatise its water. these are natural monopolies. you cannot— these are natural monopolies. you cannot change which pipe you get your water— cannot change which pipe you get your water from it. cannot change which pipe you get yourwaterfrom it. it's cannot change which pipe you get your water from it. it's really a case: — your water from it. it's really a case, i— your water from it. it's really a case, i think, your water from it. it's really a case, ithink, you your water from it. it's really a case, i think, you can either of these — case, i think, you can either of these finds— case, i think, you can either of these finds or put them out of business — these finds or put them out of business or end up biting the bullet and taking — business or end up biting the bullet and taking them into public ownership. and taking them into public ownership-— and taking them into public ownershi. ,, , ., ., ownership. questions as to whether that will be the — ownership. questions as to whether that will be the next _ ownership. questions as to whether that will be the next big _ ownership. questions as to whether that will be the next big crisis - ownership. questions as to whether that will be the next big crisis for i that will be the next big crisis for the starmer government. only about a minute, butjust tell us about the starmer government. only about a minute, but just tell us about your story, a country star, a grocery food store? tell us more. fine story, a country star, a grocery food store? tell us more. one of my favourite country _ food store? tell us more. one of my favourite country singers _ food store? tell us more. one of my favourite country singers brad - favourite country singers brad paisley is opening up yet another three grocery store there in tennessee and i think it is really important to highlight because there's a link to today's vp running mate, because governor tim walzjust last year in minnesota signed into law a bill that feeds minnesota in

children, for universal lunch for minnesotan children and i think it highlights the fact hunger is still a problem in these united states. in my opinion there should be no hungry americans, certainly no hungry americans, certainly no hungry american kid. children to have access to good nutrition, they cannot thrive, and that goes for our entire population. we are the richest country in the world. we should be feeding our people, clothing our children, and this highlights celebrities can do good and should do good. mi highlights celebrities can do good and should do good.— highlights celebrities can do good and should do good. all right... we are out of time, _ and should do good. all right... we are out of time, but _ and should do good. all right... we are out of time, but i _ and should do good. all right... we are out of time, but i can already i are out of time, but i can already hear the country song already. many thanks to our panel, rina shah, andrew fisher, for being with us. i'm helena humphrey. thanks as ever for your company. the news continues here on bbc news. hello, iam hello, i am olly foster with the latest sports news.

there has been a huge shock in the men's 1500 metre final, billed as a head to head between fierce rivals, great britain'sjosh kerr and norway's olympic champion jacob ingebritssen, but it was the american cole hocker who stole the show. ingebritsen led from the off and set a world record pace as he looked to unsettle kerr, who beat him in the world championships last year. kerr moved past him coming off the final bend, but they weren't alone, and as both tired, hocker stormed up the inside to take gold in an olympic record time — three minutes 27.65 seconds. ingebritsen's exertions caught up with him as he faded out of the medals, and kerr only took silver on a photo finish ahead of another american, yared nuguse. i'm 26 years old. i really wanted it today. i told you what i wanted and obviously i did not get it, so there's going to be that part of me that's eager and ready for that next one, but i'm really, really proud of the way i executed today, and that's just going to have to be enough are

just going to have to be enough are just now, i'm hungry for more, and i am happy i was able to add another tally to the medal count for team gb today. team gb's dina asher—smith and daryl neitta finished fourth and fifth in the women's 200 metres final. the usa's gabby thomas running away with gold. silver went to st lucia's 100 metre championjulien alfred. the usa's brittany brown edged out asher—smith for bronze by two hundredths of a second. great britain's first medal of the day came in the park skateboarding event, as sky brown matched the bronze that she won three years ago as a 13—year—old. it was an incredible result considering that she dislocated her shoulderjust over a week ago and needs surgery. her third and last run lifted her up to the silver, but she had to wait for four other competitors to complete their final runs, and japan's cocona hiraki pushed her down to bronze, just as she did in tokyo. 14—year—old australian arisa trew took gold.

very stoked. this journey has been crazy. lots of downs but also lots of ups. since tokyo, learned a lot. won every event since then until the last. it'sjust been won every event since then until the last. it's just been like, yeah, won every event since then until the last. it'sjust been like, yeah, a lot of downs too, i was not even sure i was going to make it here, so just stoked to be back on the podium. in the velodrome, great britain were no match for netherlands in the men's team sprint. the dutch smashed their own world record twice in defending their title — harrie lavreysen, roy van den berg and jeffrey hoogland were the same three that took gold in tokyo, ending the olympic stranglehold that team gb had on the event since london 2012. the british trio of ed lowe, hamish turnbull and jack carlin had no complaints about taking silver. at the diving, andrea spendolini—siriex couldn't add an individual medal to her bronze in the ten metre platform syncro —

she could only finish sixth after a poor second dive saw her playing catch—up. the gold and silver went to china's quan hongchan and chen yuxi. china have won five out of five diving events and are targeting three more to complete a clean sweep. north korea's kim mi—rae took bronze. the usa women's football team have made it into the final after beating germany 1—0 in extra time in lyon. usa were the favourites having beaten germany 4—1 earlier in the competition, but it was a game of few chances, goaless at full—time. sophia smith scored their winner in the first period of extra time. joy for emma hayes, the former chelsea manager — this is herfirst major tournament since becoming us coach early this summer. it looks like they will face brazil, who are beating spain 3—0 in the other semi.

rangers scored deep into stoppage time to draw 1—1 against dynamo kviv in the first leg of their champions league third qualifying round. cyriel dessers scored with the last kick of the game against the ukrainian side, in the match which was played in poland. the second leg is at hampden next tuesday. the winners will go into the play—off round and face either salzburg or fc twente. england's sam curran starred with both bat and ball as oval invincibles men beat manchester originals at old trafford in the hundred. curran hit 68 runs and bowled the last ball of the match as usamah mir was caught by tom lammonby, invincibles winning by three runs. earlier, invincibles women beat originals by seven wickets. the england captain ben stokes was out first ball in his first match in the hundred since the inaugural season in 2021. stokes' duck for northern superchargers came in their ten—wicket defeat to birmingham phoenix at edgebaston.

better news for the superchargers women — alice davidson—richards hit an unbeaten 49 as they beat phoenix by 61 runs. that is all of the sport for now. the olympics is still going on. you can keep across it on the bbc export app can keep across it on the bbc export app and bbc sport website, but for now, from me, goodbye. hello. the weather's varied a fair bit today, from sunny skies to quite wet conditions in one or two spots. how about this evening and overnight? the skies will clear, showers will start to fade and it's going to be a fairly quiet night on the weatherfront. so here's the earlier satellite picture. this is the weather front that brought the outbreaks of rain to east anglia and the south—east. but through the evening hours, we'll see showers spreading into western parts of scotland, then a bit of a gap and then more showers through the early hours

as we get closer to the centre of this low pressure, which is approaching the uk. but elsewhere it's mostly clear, particularly in the east central areas and further south, and whether you're in the north or the south, temperatures will be about the same early in the morning on wednesday — between 10—13 celsius. so here's that low pressure with its cluster of showers sweeping across western and north—western scotland. showers also further south, into northern england, northern ireland, some also around merseyside, and blustery winds further north. in fact, gusts could approach or exceed 40mph. further south, it's scattered fair weather clouds. a decent breeze, but pleasant enough — 23 in london, around 18 in glasgow. and then on thursday, as one area of low pressure pulls away, the next one comes in. this is going to bring extensive layers of cloud initially to many western and south—western parts of the uk. so it starts off quite bright in the east, but then heavier rain will spread into north—western england, across northern ireland and eventually into parts of scotland.

but it does look as though east anglia and the south—east could just about stay dry through most of the day and the far north of scotland too. so that's thursday — how about end of the week? well, that low pressure pulls away. in its wake, still a weather front draped across scotland, so that means thicker cloud and some showers, but also quite blustery weather. once again, 40mph winds. to the south of that, it's going to be a breezy day, but a generally sunny day. and despite the wind, still up to about 25 celsius, i think, in london and typically the low—20s further north. so that's the week — how about the weekend? after a fairly changeable week, it does look as though things gradually through the weekend could actually turn very warm across many parts of england. and there are signs that we could get something really quite hot early in the week, but it's just a low chance for now. bye.

tonight at 10 — the prime minister tells communities they will be safe as concern grows about dozens of planned

protests tomorrow. this was belfast last night — sir keir starmer is warning those who get involved in disorder that they will face the full force of the law. elon musk — owner of social media company x — ramps up his war of words with sir keir starmer over the way the unrest is being policed. also tonight... kamala harris reveals who she has picked ahead of november's presidential election — he's the minnesota governor tim walz. commentator: it's going to be cole hocker! - at the olympics — huge shock as britain'sjosh kerr and norway's jakob ingebrigtsen — the favourites and bitter rivals — are beaten in the 1500 metres. britain's skateboard star sky brown gets her second bronze at her second olympics — and she's only 16. and tears from keely hodgkinson at her medal ceremony tonight