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hello to you, welcome. israel has agreed to send a delegation to a new round of talks on a possible ceasefire deal with hamas that would also see remaining hostages released. the united states, egypt and qatar issued a joint call for talks to resume next week in either cairo or doha, but hamas has yet to respond. fears have been growing that the gaza war will escalate into a wider conflict after the killing of the hamas leader ismail haniyeh in iran. alon pinkas was an adviser to former israeli prime ministers ehud barak and shimon peres. he explained how benjamin netanyahu came to the decision to send a delegation for a fresh round of talks. he's not listening to anyone. he's only listening to his political instincts, only manipulating the, you know, a given situation, thinking of how he gets through the next day. there's no long—term strategic thinking.
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the thing is, where you're right in how you described it, is that the pressure was on the verge, was on the precipice of becoming very public. let's speak to khaled elgindy, political scientist and palestine programme director at the middle east institute. good to have you with us. and so we know that the three nations, egypt, qatar in the us, have released a statement saying a framework agreement was ready and knowing the details of implementation are left to conclude. it strikes me that that is the most contentious part of this, the limitation of this plan. that's exactly right. as they say, the devil— that's exactly right. as they say, the devil is — that's exactly right. as they say, the devil is always in the details. we have — the devil is always in the details. we have seen two or at least two vastly— we have seen two or at least two vastly different understandings of what this cease—fire deal would entail— what this cease—fire deal would entail from prime minister benjamin netanyahu. he's under the entail from prime minister benjamin netanyahu. he's underthe belief that a _ netanyahu. he's underthe belief that a cease—fire deal would mean
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that a cease—fire deal would mean that israel— that a cease—fire deal would mean that israel could simply pick up the fighting _ that israel could simply pick up the fighting after the israeli hostages were released. that is a fundamentally different interpretation that i think hamas and others in the region would have. the cease—fire in their view would mean _ the cease—fire in their view would mean an— the cease—fire in their view would mean an end to the fighting even if is hot _ mean an end to the fighting even if is not explicitly stated in the agreement. sol is not explicitly stated in the agreement. so i think that's a core difference — agreement. 50 i think that's a core difference. ., agreement. 50 i think that's a core difference. . ., ' . difference. yeah, a core difference, and i difference. yeah, a core difference, and i wonder— difference. yeah, a core difference, and i wonder benjamin _ difference. yeah, a core difference, and i wonder benjamin netanyahu l and i wonder benjamin netanyahu saying the conflict can only stop once hamas has been defeated. does this suggest whether there is in a change in tone there or not? i this suggest whether there is in a change in tone there or not? i mean, i don't change in tone there or not? i mean, i don't think— change in tone there or not? i mean, i don't think there _ change in tone there or not? i mean, i don't think there is _ change in tone there or not? i mean, i don't think there is a _ change in tone there or not? i mean, i don't think there is a change - i don't think there is a change in tone _ i don't think there is a change in tone from — i don't think there is a change in tone from the israeli leadership. they— tone from the israeli leadership. they have — tone from the israeli leadership. they have insisted and if sort of scent _ they have insisted and if sort of scent both _ they have insisted and if sort of scent both messages at the same time _ scent both messages at the same time. privately, they tell their
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american _ time. privately, they tell their american and other interlocutors that they— american and other interlocutors that they are ready to sign a cease—fire deal, they have agreed supposedly the deal on the table is the israeii — supposedly the deal on the table is the israeli proposal. but publicly, netanyahu is saying something very, very different, they will fight untit— very different, they will fight until the end, until hamas is destroyed and total victory. those are very. — destroyed and total victory. those are very, very different things. he is clearly— are very, very different things. he is clearly trying to appease the extremists in his government who threatened to bring down his coatition— threatened to bring down his coalition if he were to sign a cease-fire _ coalition if he were to sign a cease—fire deal while at the same time _ cease—fire deal while at the same time trying to appear to the united states. _ time trying to appear to the united states. his — time trying to appear to the united states, his key benefactor and supporter throughout this war, that he is still— supporter throughout this war, that he is still interested in a cease—fire deal. but he cannot really — cease—fire deal. but he cannot really have both. cease-fire deal. but he cannot really have both.— cease-fire deal. but he cannot really have both. how difficult will it be to reach _ really have both. how difficult will it be to reach some sort _ really have both. how difficult will it be to reach some sort of- it be to reach some sort of agreement given what we've seen in this last week and particularly of course hamas poz �*s decision to
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elect yahya sinwar as its new leader, the man that israel holds response will for planning and executing those attacks but they were the seventh and commonly seen as one of their most extreme figures? how will that factor in any negotiations that the three nations, the us, egypt and qatar expect to happen? it the us, egypt and qatar expect to ha en? , the us, egypt and qatar expect to hauen? ,, ., _ , happen? it very seriously, locates the whole cease-fire _ happen? it very seriously, locates the whole cease-fire negotiation i the whole cease—fire negotiation process — the whole cease—fire negotiation process if— the whole cease—fire negotiation process if not undermines it totaiiy~ _ process if not undermines it totaiiy~ i_ process if not undermines it totally. i mean, the man who was assassinated, ismail haniyeh come it was widely— assassinated, ismail haniyeh come it was widely known to be a relative moderate — was widely known to be a relative moderate within hamas. he was a pragmatist. he had been in some ways a moderating influence on yahya sinwar, — a moderating influence on yahya sinwar, now that he has been killed, the message to hamas is negotiations don't matter, and policy does not matter. _ don't matter, and policy does not matter, whatever we may say in public _ matter, whatever we may say in public about a cease—fire, we are still committed to continuing this
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fi-ht still committed to continuing this fight and — still committed to continuing this fight and so hamas has responded by appointing _ fight and so hamas has responded by appointing their enemy number one to lead the _ appointing their enemy number one to lead the group. and so it will make cease-fire — lead the group. and so it will make cease—fire talks much more difficult in large _ cease—fire talks much more difficult in large part also because people are waiting for some kind of retaliatory response from iran. and so it would — retaliatory response from iran. and so it would be odd if everyone returned — so it would be odd if everyone returned to the negotiating table next week only to have that process blow up _ next week only to have that process blow up yet — next week only to have that process blow up yet again because now a ron has responded with a retaliation against — has responded with a retaliation against israel. so it's unlikely that— against israel. so it's unlikely that the — against israel. so it's unlikely that the israelis did not anticipate hamas's— that the israelis did not anticipate hamas's response. and then they understood this would make the cease-fire — understood this would make the cease—fire negotiations much harder, and that— cease—fire negotiations much harder, and that irr— cease—fire negotiations much harder, and that in fact maybe netanyahu's objective — and that in fact maybe netanyahu's ob'ective. . ._ and that in fact maybe netanyahu's ob'ective. ,, ._ , and that in fact maybe netanyahu's ob'ective. . ._ , ., and that in fact maybe netanyahu's ob'ective. ,, ., , ., ., objective. stay with us, i want to brina in objective. stay with us, i want to bring in the _ objective. stay with us, i want to bring in the panel—
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objective. stay with us, i want to bring in the panel and _ objective. stay with us, i want to bring in the panel and dreer- bring in the panel and drexel and annabella still with us. drexel, i wonder all of this is designed to avert this crisis escalating into a whole region issue, but quite clearly in washington they'll be looking at this very closely hoping this can be resolved before those elections in november.— elections in november. sorry... yeah, this _ elections in november. sorry... yeah, this is — elections in november. sorry... yeah, this is a _ elections in november. sorry... yeah, this is a critical— elections in november. sorry... yeah, this is a critical time - elections in november. sorry... yeah, this is a critical time for. yeah, this is a critical time for the biden- _ yeah, this is a critical time for the biden— harris— yeah, this is a critical time for. the biden— harris administration yeah, this is a critical time for- the biden— harris administration to really— the biden— harris administration to really seat— the biden— harris administration to really seat the _ the biden— harris administration to really seal the deal— the biden— harris administration to really seal the deal on _ the biden— harris administration to really seal the deal on these - really seal the deal on these talks with benjamin— really seal the deal on these talks with benjamin netanyahu - really seal the deal on these talks with benjamin netanyahu and - really seal the deal on these talks with benjamin netanyahu and the| with benjamin netanyahu and the hamas— with benjamin netanyahu and the hamas leaders, _ with benjamin netanyahu and the hamas leaders, to _ with benjamin netanyahu and the hamas leaders, to come - with benjamin netanyahu and the hamas leaders, to come to- with benjamin netanyahu and the hamas leaders, to come to the l hamas leaders, to come to the conclusion— hamas leaders, to come to the conclusion before _ hamas leaders, to come to the conclusion before certainly- hamas leaders, to come to the conclusion before certainly a i hamas leaders, to come to the - conclusion before certainly a donald trump _ conclusion before certainly a donald trump administration _ conclusion before certainly a donald trump administration muddies - conclusion before certainly a donald trump administration muddies up . conclusion before certainly a donald i trump administration muddies up the deal. trump administration muddies up the deai~ we _ trump administration muddies up the deai~ we are — trump administration muddies up the deal. we are seeing _ trump administration muddies up the deal. we are seeing active _ deal. we are seeing active cease-fire _ deal. we are seeing active cease—fire requests- deal. we are seeing activej cease—fire requests across deal. we are seeing active - cease—fire requests across the country~ — cease—fire requests across the country. those _ cease—fire requests across the country. those have _ cease—fire requests across the country. those have been - cease—fire requests across the - country. those have been certainly targeting _ country. those have been certainly targeting the — country. those have been certainly targeting the harris _ country. those have been certainly targeting the harris — _ country. those have been certainly targeting the harris — walz- country. those have been certainly targeting the harris — walz rally. . targeting the harris — walz rally. certainty — targeting the harris — walz rally. certainly questions _ targeting the harris — walz rally. certainly questions from - targeting the harris — walz rally. certainly questions from the - targeting the harris — walz rally. j certainly questions from the vice president— certainly questions from the vice president what _ certainly questions from the vice president what her— certainly questions from the vice president what her plan - certainly questions from the vice president what her plan will- certainly questions from the vice president what her plan will be l certainly questions from the vicei president what her plan will be to secure _ president what her plan will be to secure this— president what her plan will be to secure this deal— president what her plan will be to secure this deal come _
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president what her plan will be to secure this deal come secure - president what her plan will be to secure this deal come secure a i secure this deal come secure a cease-fire. _ secure this deal come secure a cease-fire. to _ secure this deal come secure a cease—fire, to secure - secure this deal come secure a cease—fire, to secure and - secure this deal come secure a| cease—fire, to secure and make secure this deal come secure a - cease—fire, to secure and make sure that israet— cease—fire, to secure and make sure that israel remains— cease—fire, to secure and make sure that israel remains safe _ cease—fire, to secure and make sure that israel remains safe and - cease—fire, to secure and make sure that israel remains safe and as an i that israel remains safe and as an ally _ that israel remains safe and as an ally those — that israel remains safe and as an ally. those are _ that israel remains safe and as an ally. those are the _ that israel remains safe and as an ally. those are the things - that israel remains safe and as an ally. those are the things that - that israel remains safe and as anj ally. those are the things that the biden— ally. those are the things that the biden administration— ally. those are the things that the biden administration and - ally. those are the things that the biden administration and certainly somebody— biden administration and certainly somebody with _ biden administration and certainly somebody with the _ biden administration and certainly somebody with the breath - biden administration and certainly somebody with the breath of- somebody with the breath of foreign-policy— somebody with the breath of foreign—policy experience i somebody with the breath of foreign—policy experience in| somebody with the breath of. foreign—policy experience in joe biden— foreign—policy experience in joe biden has— foreign—policy experience in joe biden has handed _ foreign—policy experience in joe biden has handed over- foreign—policy experience in joe biden has handed over his - foreign—policy experience in joe biden has handed over his 50 l foreign—policy experience in joe - biden has handed over his 50 years is really— biden has handed over his 50 years is really hoping _ biden has handed over his 50 years is really hoping will _ biden has handed over his 50 years is really hoping will secure - biden has handed over his 50 years is really hoping will secure his- is really hoping will secure his legacy— is really hoping will secure his legacy as _ is really hoping will secure his legacy as that _ is really hoping will secure his legacy as that great _ is really hoping will secure his legacy as that great unifier. is really hoping will secure his. legacy as that great unifier that is really hoping will secure his- legacy as that great unifier that he certainty— legacy as that great unifier that he certainly has — legacy as that great unifier that he certainly has been _ legacy as that great unifier that he certainly has been in _ legacy as that great unifier that he certainly has been in his— legacy as that great unifier that he certainly has been in his career. i legacy as that great unifier that he | certainly has been in his career. so that is— certainly has been in his career. so that is certainly— certainly has been in his career. so that is certainly something - certainly has been in his career. so that is certainly something that - certainly has been in his career. so that is certainly something that byl that is certainly something that by the administration _ that is certainly something that by the administration will _ that is certainly something that by the administration will be - that is certainly something that by the administration will be lookingl the administration will be looking at over— the administration will be looking at over the — the administration will be looking at over the next _ the administration will be looking at over the next 90—100 - the administration will be looking at over the next 90—100 days - the administration will be looking at over the next 90—100 days asl the administration will be looking - at over the next 90—100 days as they finish _ at over the next 90—100 days as they finish up _ at over the next 90—100 days as they finish up that — at over the next 90—100 days as they finish up that term. _ at over the next 90—100 days as they finish up that term. find _ at over the next 90-100 days as they finish up that term.— finish up that term. and it feels somewhat _ finish up that term. and it feels somewhat perverse _ finish up that term. and it feels somewhat perverse that - finish up that term. and it feels somewhat perverse that we - finish up that term. and it feels| somewhat perverse that we talk finish up that term. and it feels - somewhat perverse that we talk about a possible peace deal when governments around the world including the uk are calling on their citizens to leave the region because of their fears about a significant escalation given the events of the last week. and so it sort of seems a little premature to talk about the possibility of a peace deal with that if the current advice. , , ., , ., advice. yes, it feels as though the 're advice. yes, it feels as though they're saying _ advice. yes, it feels as though they're saying one _ advice. yes, it feels as though they're saying one thing - advice. yes, it feels as though they're saying one thing and l advice. yes, it feels as though - they're saying one thing and doing another, and of course is essential to people who are in places,
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citizens who were in places which may not be safe for them to begin our leaving those countries as soon as possible. of course each of the previous discussion, it is incumbent on benjamin netanyahu to get back those hostages, is absolutely essential. we are talking about 120 people, is believed, who then held in captivity in unimaginable conditions for the last nine months, and netanyahu is under so much pressure domestically to get those people back. but at the same time, as your previous guest said, he has made no secret of what his war aims are, at least publicly, and his intention to root out hamas. they wantjust wonder has to how compatible it is a list cease—fire, with a peace deal, let's not forget that we have been in this position before. over the last year, there have been negotiations running hot and cold with all of the key players
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in the different system of course is the context, the assassination of those key hezbollah and hamas players and the rest that iran can be brought into direct conflict with israel. at the moment i think that looks unlikely but weirdly about volatile, irrational actors in that region, so the west cannot be complacent. region, so the west cannot be complacent-— region, so the west cannot be comlacent. . , ., ., complacent. and you heard their annabella say — complacent. and you heard their annabella say we _ complacent. and you heard their annabella say we have _ complacent. and you heard their annabella say we have been - complacent. and you heard their| annabella say we have been here before. what is different about this time? how optimistic are you that this time is different? filth. time? how optimistic are you that this time is different?— this time is different? oh, i'm not otimistic this time is different? oh, i'm not optimistic it _ this time is different? oh, i'm not optimistic it off _ this time is different? oh, i'm not optimistic it off because _ this time is different? oh, i'm not optimistic it off because the - optimistic it off because the fundamental calculations of all sides— fundamental calculations of all sides have not changed, and in fact have sort of— sides have not changed, and in fact have sort of entrenched more towards this wider— have sort of entrenched more towards this wider escalation. and really the missing link here is there is nothing. — the missing link here is there is nothing, there is really no pressure on netanyahu to change course. he has been _ on netanyahu to change course. he has been in — on netanyahu to change course. he has been in the driver's seat since
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last october. he has defied president biden at every turn, whether— president biden at every turn, whether it was on humanitarian aid and israeii — whether it was on humanitarian aid and israeli restrictions there or the so—called redline in rafah, at every— the so—called redline in rafah, at every stage he has defied the president and we met at the precipice _ president and we met at the precipice of this cease—fire deal for many, — precipice of this cease—fire deal for many, many months. so what is going _ for many, many months. so what is going to _ for many, many months. so what is going to have to change is that the prime _ going to have to change is that the prime minister netanyahu is going to have to _ prime minister netanyahu is going to have to decide that it's more costly for him _ have to decide that it's more costly for him to— have to decide that it's more costly for him to continue the war that it is to— for him to continue the war that it is to end — for him to continue the war that it is to end it. — for him to continue the war that it is to end it, and it will only happen— is to end it, and it will only happen with significant pressure from _ happen with significant pressure from washington. but as long as washington says, look, we don't like what you're — washington says, look, we don't like what you're doing, we want this war to end _ what you're doing, we want this war to end but _ what you're doing, we want this war to end but here's a god weapons the need to— to end but here's a god weapons the need to continue this war, that's not going — need to continue this war, that's not going to end the war. so it's really— not going to end the war. so it's really in — not going to end the war. so it's really in the president's hands to end it _ really in the president's hands to end it we — really in the president's hands to end it. we just have not seen, he does _ end it. we just have not seen, he does not — end it. we just have not seen, he does not have the political will to
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expend _ does not have the political will to expend political capital on this issue. — expend political capital on this issue, especiallyjust before a major— issue, especiallyjust before a major election. issue, especially 'ust before a major election._ issue, especially 'ust before a major election. issue, especially 'ust before a ma'orelection. ., ., ,, ., major election. good to talk to you, thank you — major election. good to talk to you, thank you. political— major election. good to talk to you, thank you. political scientist - major election. good to talk to you, thank you. political scientist at - thank you. political scientist at the palestine programme director at the palestine programme director at the middle east institute. now to us politics, with election dayjust three months away. the two main candidates will be back on the campaign trail later today. vice president kamala harris will be in arizona as she continues her tour of battleground states with her running mate, minnesota governor tim walz. arizona went forjoe biden in 2020, but is considered a toss—up and key to winning the election. before the last election, it had been republican for more than 20 years. this comes as the white house announced ms harris and mr biden will make their firstjoint campaign stop next week in maryland since he dropped out of the race. and as harris continues her aggressive schedule, former president donald trump is holding just one rally this week. the republican nominee will be in montana later
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to drum up support for senate candidate tim sheehy. with control of the us senate at stake, donald trump is hoping to help oust the democrat incumbent senatorjon tester. the senate seat in montana is considered key for the balance of power in congress. montana is not a battleground state for the presidency and has been solidly republican for decades. so let's talk to the panel again. drexel, and he start with you because talk to me about this schedule. we are sort of getting a sense of what it might look like now, 90 days or so out from the selection was a president trump saying i will do one a week, but for kamala harris, it's full on it, the foot and on the excelerator campaigning in these crucial swing states. , ~ , , states. listen, ithink this is something _ states. listen, ithink this is something that _ states. listen, ithink this is something that donald - states. listen, i think this is i something that donald trump states. listen, i think this is - something that donald trump is trying _ something that donald trump is trying to— something that donald trump is trying to run— something that donald trump is trying to run away— something that donald trump is trying to run away from - something that donald trump is trying to run away from a - something that donald trump is trying to run away from a record something that donald trump is i trying to run away from a record as president. —
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trying to run away from a record as president. and _ trying to run away from a record as president. and a _ trying to run away from a record as president, and a lack— trying to run away from a record as president, and a lack of— trying to run away from a record as president, and a lack of policy- trying to run away from a record as president, and a lack of policy thatj president, and a lack of policy that he is _ president, and a lack of policy that he is going — president, and a lack of policy that he is going to _ president, and a lack of policy that he is going to have _ president, and a lack of policy that he is going to have to _ president, and a lack of policy that he is going to have to answer- president, and a lack of policy thatl he is going to have to answer for on the road _ he is going to have to answer for on the road was — he is going to have to answer for on the road was up _ he is going to have to answer for on the road was up if— he is going to have to answer for on the road was up if you _ he is going to have to answer for on the road was up if you listen- he is going to have to answer for on the road was up if you listen to - 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ousted in 2020. he is been talking about— ousted in 2020. he is been talking about the — ousted in 2020. he is been talking about the same _ ousted in 2020. he is been talking about the same things _ ousted in 2020. he is been talking about the same things over- ousted in 2020. he is been talking about the same things over and i ousted in 2020. he is been talking i about the same things over and over. he also— about the same things over and over. he also knows— about the same things over and over. he also knows that _ about the same things over and over. he also knows that he _ about the same things over and over. he also knows that he is _ about the same things over and over. he also knows that he is hurting his l he also knows that he is hurting his own ticket— he also knows that he is hurting his own ticket being _ he also knows that he is hurting his own ticket being the _ he also knows that he is hurting his own ticket being the remic- he also knows that he is hurting his own ticket being the remic and - own ticket being the remic and nominee — own ticket being the remic and nominee for— own ticket being the remic and nominee for president - own ticket being the remic and nominee for president the - own ticket being the remic and| nominee for president the more own ticket being the remic and - nominee for president the more that he talks— nominee for president the more that he talks in— nominee for president the more that he talks in public, _ nominee for president the more that he talks in public, so— nominee for president the more that he talks in public, so it's _ nominee for president the more that he talks in public, so it's not - he talks in public, so it's not surprising _ he talks in public, so it's not surprising that— he talks in public, so it's not surprising that his _ he talks in public, so it's not surprising that his campaign| he talks in public, so it's not - surprising that his campaign would put him _ surprising that his campaign would put him or— surprising that his campaign would put him or make _ surprising that his campaign would put him or make him _ surprising that his campaign would put him or make him the - surprising that his campaign would put him or make him the least - put him or make him the least accessibie _ put him or make him the least accessible person— put him or make him the least accessible person on - put him or make him the least accessible person on the - put him or make him the least accessible person on the roadl put him or make him the least - accessible person on the road right now, _ accessible person on the road right now. even— accessible person on the road right now. even as — accessible person on the road right now, even as replicants _ accessible person on the road right now, even as replicants talk- accessible person on the road right now, even as replicants talk about| now, even as replicants talk about vice president— now, even as replicants talk about vice president harris— now, even as replicants talk about vice president harris on— now, even as replicants talk about vice president harris on talking i now, even as replicants talk about vice president harris on talking to| vice president harris on talking to the she _ vice president harris on talking to the she is— vice president harris on talking to the she is out— vice president harris on talking to the she is out there _ vice president harris on talking to the she is out there talking - vice president harris on talking to the she is out there talking to - the she is out there talking to voters — the she is out there talking to voters we _ the she is out there talking to voters. we have _ the she is out there talking to voters. we have seen - the she is out there talking to voters. we have seen the - the she is out there talking to i voters. we have seen the relics the she is out there talking to - voters. we have seen the relics of pennsylvania. _ voters. we have seen the relics of pennsylvania, in _ voters. we have seen the relics of pennsylvania, in detroit, - voters. we have seen the relics of pennsylvania, in detroit, we - voters. we have seen the relics of pennsylvania, in detroit, we are l pennsylvania, in detroit, we are seeing _ pennsylvania, in detroit, we are seeing the — pennsylvania, in detroit, we are seeing the turnout _ pennsylvania, in detroit, we are seeing the turnout in _ pennsylvania, in detroit, we are seeing the turnout in arizona i pennsylvania, in detroit, we arel seeing the turnout in arizona and all across— seeing the turnout in arizona and all across the _ seeing the turnout in arizona and all across the united _ seeing the turnout in arizona and all across the united states - 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now and the enthusiasm for vice president harris, anna _ now and the enthusiasm for vice president harris, anna has- now and the enthusiasm for vice president harris, anna has not. president harris, anna has not changed — president harris, anna has not changed. donald _ president harris, anna has not changed. donald trump - president harris, anna has not changed. donald trump does i president harris, anna has not. changed. donald trump does not president harris, anna has not- changed. donald trump does not have the same _ changed. donald trump does not have the same level— changed. donald trump does not have the same level of— changed. donald trump does not have the same level of enthusiasm - changed. donald trump does not have the same level of enthusiasm because the same level of enthusiasm because the same _ the same level of enthusiasm because the same base — the same level of enthusiasm because the same base he _ the same level of enthusiasm because the same base he has— the same level of enthusiasm because the same base he has been— the same level of enthusiasm because the same base he has been talking - the same level of enthusiasm because the same base he has been talking to| the same base he has been talking to since he _ the same base he has been talking to since he was — the same base he has been talking to since he was elected _ the same base he has been talking to since he was elected in 2016, - the same base he has been talking to since he was elected in 2016, and - since he was elected in 2016, and he is not _ since he was elected in 2016, and he is not expended _ since he was elected in 2016, and he is not expended that _ since he was elected in 2016, and he is not expended that base _ since he was elected in 2016, and he is not expended that base so- since he was elected in 2016, and he is not expended that base so it's - is not expended that base so it's no surprise _ is not expended that base so it's no surprise that — is not expended that base so it's no surprise that he _ is not expended that base so it's no surprise that he would _ is not expended that base so it's no surprise that he would go _ is not expended that base so it's no surprise that he would go out - 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to do his dirty work but that event has its own set of problems that l to do his dirty work but that event. has its own set of problems that he has its own set of problems that he has got _ has its own set of problems that he has got to— has its own set of problems that he has got to overcome. _ has its own set of problems that he has got to overcome. and - has its own set of problems that he has got to overcome. and he - has its own set of problems that he has got to overcome. and he is - has its own set of problems that he has got to overcome. and he is a l has got to overcome. and he is a novice _ has got to overcome. and he is a novice in— has got to overcome. and he is a novice in this _ has got to overcome. and he is a novice in this whole _ has got to overcome. and he is a novice in this whole situation, i novice in this whole situation, turns— novice in this whole situation, turns out— novice in this whole situation, turns out that _ novice in this whole situation, turns out that he _ novice in this whole situation, turns out that he is _ novice in this whole situation, turns out that he is not - novice in this whole situation, turns out that he is not very. novice in this whole situation, . turns out that he is not very good at this— turns out that he is not very good at this game _ turns out that he is not very good at this game. and _ turns out that he is not very good at this game. and so— turns out that he is not very good at this game. and so i— turns out that he is not very good at this game. and so i think- at this game. and so i think democrats _ at this game. and so i think democrats are _ at this game. and so i think democrats are excited - at this game. and so i think democrats are excited to i at this game. and so i think. democrats are excited to have at this game. and so i think- democrats are excited to have both of them _ democrats are excited to have both of them whether— democrats are excited to have both of them whether or _ democrats are excited to have both of them whether or not _ democrats are excited to have both of them whether or not they- democrats are excited to have both of them whether or not they are - democrats are excited to have both of them whether or not they are on| of them whether or not they are on or off— of them whether or not they are on or off the _ of them whether or not they are on or off the trail— of them whether or not they are on or off the trail kind _ of them whether or not they are on or off the trail kind of _ of them whether or not they are on or off the trail kind of doing - or off the trail kind of doing whatever— or off the trail kind of doing whatever they're _ or off the trail kind of doing whatever they're doing - or off the trail kind of doing - whatever they're doing and vice president — whatever they're doing and vice president harris _ whatever they're doing and vice president harris and _ whatever they're doing and vice president harris and her- whatever they're doing and vice | president harris and her running mate _ president harris and her running mate tim — president harris and her running mate tim walz— president harris and her running mate tim walz doing _ president harris and her running mate tim walz doing it - president harris and her running mate tim walz doing it only - president harris and her running i mate tim walz doing it only what democrats — mate tim walz doing it only what democrats been _ mate tim walz doing it only what democrats been doing _ mate tim walz doing it only what democrats been doing every- mate tim walz doing it only what - democrats been doing every election company— democrats been doing every election company about — democrats been doing every election company about the _ democrats been doing every election company about the issues _ democrats been doing every election company about the issues and - democrats been doing every election company about the issues and the i company about the issues and the voters _ company about the issues and the voters and — company about the issues and the voters and the _ company about the issues and the voters and the connecting. - voters and the connecting. interesting _ voters and the connecting. interesting there - voters and the connecting. interesting there drexel. voters and the connecting. - interesting there drexel talking about the crown to him and people are attending these events donald trump not mocking the size of
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kamala's carousing and they are similar to the crowds he would attract most of also falsely claiming that the size of the gravity addressed on january the 6th that fateful day in 2021, said it was as large as those who passed the national mall in washington for martin luther king's speech. nothing of the sort. the images and looking at the numbers, it's about a quarter of a million people attended in august 1953 in the latest estimates they were actually 53,000 for president trump. what does he get these numbers from? i president trump. what does he get these numbers from?— president trump. what does he get these numbers from? i think we have lona known these numbers from? i think we have long known that _ these numbers from? i think we have long known that donald _ these numbers from? i think we have long known that donald trump - these numbers from? i think we have long known that donald trump has i long known that donald trump has quite a loose relationship with the truth and has been known to stray into hyperbole in order to try and win audiences over. and unfortunately in the modern era, it does seem like the light spreads around the world while the truth is still putting its use on. bbc verified recently did a fact picking up verified recently did a fact picking up some of the claims that donald
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trump had recently been making about kamala, about the democrats record in office, and again there were some discrepancies there. when i find sort of quite interesting really is that the republicans have gone on the attack so much was it was up or get a month ago everybody bought this election was a loser. donald trump had the assassination attempt and there was the absolutely amazing and there was the absolutely amazing and striking image of him in the immediate aftermath of it. nobody thought anybody will be able to touch them and air force were not expecting at that point forjoe biden to step aside, but now it does seem like the wind is in the democrat sales and it does seem like kamala harris is able to move the dial and that's what i was pressure on the republican party and leaving donald trump to have to perhaps behave even more erratically than usual. and one suspects it we are not once did that stop in the next
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90 days or so. 90 not once did that stop in the next 90 days or so-_ 90 days or so. 90 days of all this to come- — 90 days or so. 90 days of all this to come- for— 90 days or so. 90 days of all this to come. for now, thank - 90 days or so. 90 days of all this to come. for now, thank you. . around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news.
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now it's time for the panel. and this is the bit where we let our panelists tell us what they want to talk about. drexel muh tell about penny flanagan. who is she a mother she potentially have a newjob in 90 days? she potentially have a new 'ob in 90 da s? ~ , ., ., ., she potentially have a new 'ob in 90 das? , days? well, peggy flanagan is the current lieutenant _ days? well, peggy flanagan is the current lieutenant governor - days? well, peggy flanagan is the current lieutenant governor of - current lieutenant governor of minnesota. she is the first native american woman to hold thatjob and under tim walz, if he becomes the vice president, peggy flanagan becomes the first native american woman to become a governor in the us. that is a very historic possibility for us and certainly for minnesota and she spoke at the 2016
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convention. she had a key spot during the convention and she was in the minnesota house of representatives went on to become lieutenant governor and as of november the 5th hoping to become the next governor of minnesota. would be quite a moment with kamala harris potential of the first woman in my first black woman and first person of indian descent to be in the top office as well to a lot of first if that ticket wins. allison about paying for more than lodging but this time if you are in prison. yes, this isjust an but this time if you are in prison. yes, this is just an absolute disgrace _ yes, this is just an absolute disgrace of the victims of historic miscarriages ofjustice have been told by— miscarriages ofjustice have been told by the government today that they will _ told by the government today that they will have bed and board costs for the _ they will have bed and board costs for the time that they were wrongfully imprisoned deducted from their compensation payments. now, look. _ their compensation payments. now, look. i'm _ their compensation payments. now, iook. i'm of— their compensation payments. now, look, i'm of the sort of person who attends _ look, i'm of the sort of person who attends to— look, i'm of the sort of person who attends to advocate for taxpayers sheiting _ attends to advocate for taxpayers shelling out a necessarily but in this case — shelling out a necessarily but in this case a _ shelling out a necessarily but in this case a really strongly feel as a people — this case a really strongly feel as a people ought to be compensated to the max _ a people ought to be compensated to the max and the people have been deprived _ the max and the people have been deprived for years of years of their
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freedom — deprived for years of years of their freedom. they've been forced to live in sguaior— freedom. they've been forced to live in squalor and fear with a never—ending sense of injustice. barely— never—ending sense of injustice. barely something that you can bring yourself— barely something that you can bring yourself to think about. and yet is somehow— yourself to think about. and yet is somehow the government deciding that this is— somehow the government deciding that this is the _ somehow the government deciding that this is the redline that is going to drop when— this is the redline that is going to drop when we've got an enormous amount— drop when we've got an enormous amount of— drop when we've got an enormous amount of public spending, this is the payment that is unwilling to make _ the payment that is unwilling to make and i think it's shameful. good to talk to you — make and i think it's shameful. good to talk to you both. _ make and i think it's shameful. good to talk to you both. great _ make and i think it's shameful. (13pm to talk to you both. great to have you on the contents of this is friday evening, thank you for your time. thank you as well for watching with deadlines coming up very shortly but from me, good night, bye—bye. hello from the bbc sport centre. i'm jane dougall. katerina johnson—thompson has won her first ever olympic medal at the fourth attempt, taking silver in the heptathlon behind belgium's nafi thiam, who has won a third consecutive title. johnson—thompson had to finish at least 8.5 seconds ahead of thiam to get the gold, but despite running a personal best,
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the brit was only able to put five seconds between her and the belgian to finish 36 points behind in second place. belgium's noor vidts took bronze, while britain's jade o'dowda finished tenth. a tearfuljohnson—thompson tried to sum up her feelings afterwards. i cannot even describe the words of this weekend is taken. i'm just so relieved, i'm so happy, i'm so happy that i've got an olympic medal to add to my collection. if the only one that i did not have. it's been so hard getting to this point, getting back to this point, so i'm just so relieved. there was also silver for team gb in the women's 4x100—metre relay. dina asher—smith, imani lansiquot, amy hunt and daryll neita had two tricky changeovers as the rain fell in paris, but neita was superb on the anchor leg.
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it wasn't quite enough, though, and they finished just behind the americans. germany took the bronze. there was so much gas going on but we are _ there was so much gas going on but we are so— there was so much gas going on but we are so well drilled as a team and that's— we are so well drilled as a team and that's our— we are so well drilled as a team and that's our biggest strength is we are skilled with spot ladies and make _ are skilled with spot ladies and make sure we got in. that was our motto _ make sure we got in. that was our motto today— make sure we got in. that was our motto today so i'm very proud of these _ motto today so i'm very proud of these ladies was not absolutely in these ladies was not absolutely in the new— these ladies was not absolutely in the new displays for home? | these ladies was not absolutely in the new displays for home? i did. i was not going _ the new displays for home? i did. i was not going to — the new displays for home? i did. i was not going to let _ the new displays for home? i did. i was not going to let these - the new displays for home? i did. i was not going to let these ladies i was not going to let these ladies down~ _ was not going to let these ladies down it— was not going to let these ladies down it was— was not going to let these ladies down. it was just _ was not going to let these ladies down. it wasjust go, _ was not going to let these ladies down. it wasjust go, go, - was not going to let these ladies down. it wasjust go, go, go - was not going to let these ladies down. it wasjust go, go, go and was not going to let these ladies . down. it wasjust go, go, go and for us to— down. it wasjust go, go, go and for us to leave — down. it wasjust go, go, go and for us to leave here _ down. it wasjust go, go, go and for us to leave here with a _ down. it wasjust go, go, go and for us to leave here with a silver - down. it wasjust go, go, go and for us to leave here with a silver medal| us to leave here with a silver medal at the _ us to leave here with a silver medal at the limit — us to leave here with a silver medal at the limit games _ us to leave here with a silver medal at the limit games and _ us to leave here with a silver medal at the limit games and going - us to leave here with a silver medal at the limit games and going on - us to leave here with a silver medalj at the limit games and going on the podium _ at the limit games and going on the podium presenting _ at the limit games and going on the podium presenting team _ at the limit games and going on the podium presenting team gb - at the limit games and going on the podium presenting team gb in - at the limit games and going on the l podium presenting team gb in great britain. _ podium presenting team gb in great britain. we _ podium presenting team gb in great britain. we are— podium presenting team gb in great britain, we are just _ podium presenting team gb in great britain, we are just so _ podium presenting team gb in great britain, we are just so proud. - zharnel hughes helped team gb take bronze in the men's 4x100—metres, running an impressive anchor leg to get a medal for himself, jeremiah azu, louie hinch—liffe and nethaneel mitchell—blake. canada won gold, with south africa taking silver. the usa were disqualified after a disastrous first changeover. on the cycling track,
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neah evans and elinor barker won silver in the women's madison. britain went into the 120—lap race as the world champions and defending olympic champions, but they couldn't keep up with the italians, who lapped the rest of the field. but the brits remained in the medal positions throughout and won a final sprint to take a hard—earned silver. meanwhile, jack carlin took a dramatic bronze in the men's sprint, beating his dutch compatriot jeffrey hoogland over three races to win the bronze medal race. there was some controversy, though, when carlin mistakenly caused a collision that could have caused him to be disqualified. toby roberts won great britain's 14th gold in paris and their first medal in sport climbing at a games with a dramatic victory in the boulder and lead event. after a strong performance in the boulder saw him in the bronze medal position, roberts scored 92.1 out of a 100 in the lead to move
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into provisional first place. japanese favourite sorato anraku needed to score 86 to relegate roberts into second, but lost his grip to the shock of both roberts and 6000 people in the crowd at le bourget. roberts' team—mate hamish mcarthur finished fifth. away from the olympics, lee carsley has been appointed interim england manager ahead of september's nations league games as the search for gareth southgate's successor continues. the 50—year—old has stepped up from his role as england under—21 head coach to replace southgate, who resigned two days after losing the euros final to spain last month. carsley led england under—21s to victory in the final of the european championship last season, beating — you've guessed it — spain in the final. the english football season is under way. sheffield united who were relegated from the premier league are taking
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on preston north end. and the blades are heading towards an opening day victory and the blades have just secured an opening day victory as they hope for a promotion back to the top flight at the first time of asking. they're won 2—0 up at deepdale, with the goals coming from ollie arblaster and gus hamer. elsewhere, blackburn rovers beat newly promoted derby county 4—2 at ewood park. last season's championship top scorer sammie szmodics getting rovers' third goal. tyrhys dolan and summer signings andi weimann and yuki ohashi with the others for blackburn. keep up—to—date with all of the sport at the olympics on the bbc website and across the bbc. and that's all the sport for now. hello there! heat and humidity is set to build as we go through the weekend, but we do need to caveat that with saturday, there is going to be quite a lot of cloud around for most of us.
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but it will turn increasingly very warm and very humid from sunday onwards. let's take a look at what's happening, then. this weather front will bring more cloud on saturday into south—west england and wales, and with isobars quite tightly packed together further north, that's going to feed in plenty of showers, particularly from west to east across scotland throughout the day. southern scotland, northern ireland keeping some sunshine. england and wales, quite a lot of cloud feeding in. at times, there'll be some light, drizzly rain and poor visibility through the irish sea coast there. top temperatures, though, 2a degrees. that's still 75 fahrenheit. but as we move out of saturday and into sunday, this area of low pressure is going to move in and allow the winds to change to a southerly direction. and that means we're going to tap into some very hot weather that's taking place across the mediterranean at the moment. so early morning cloud will break up quite quickly. a lot of dry, settled, sunny weather
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right across the country on sunday. increasingly hot, increasingly humid. this weather front threatening to the north—west, but it will stay away during the daylight hours. 16—23 degrees likely in scotland. highest values, though, of 28 — 82 fahrenheit — in the south—east. that will lead to a very humid night to come, and on monday, the heat is likely to peak. we could see some record—breaking heat in bordeaux if we get temperatures in excess of 41 degrees. but for the south—east, we're likely to see temperatures peaking somewhere around 32—33 degrees. at the same time, further north, that weather front moves in, and with that heat and humidity coupled with that front, we are likely to see some sharp, thundery downpours. really quite torrential, heavy rain for a time. that will freshen the story up further north, but we've still got that heat and humidity clinging on in the south—east of england. one low eases away, another is likely to move in, again bringing some unsettled weather. not for all of us, but certainly a fresher feel as we go
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through the week ahead. there will continue to be some lengthy spells of sunshine, particularly across southern england. showers or longer spells of rain likely further north.
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at10:00, disbelief in russia as ukraine launches a major incursion across the border, seizing territory. this, a column of russian armour, attacked, burned and abandoned,
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in the kursk region. also tonight, the king praises communities for coming together to counter the aggression and criminality of the riots. it comes after three men are jailed for comments posted online, during the recent violence. a passenger plane has crashed in brazil, killing all 62 people on board. the bbc wants the former news presenter huw edwards to return £200,000 in earnings paid after his arrest last november. scaling the heights at the olympics, 19—year—old toby roberts wins team gb's first gold medal in climbing. a great run from katrina johnson—thompson! and stay with us here on bbc news for continuing coverage and analysis from our team of correspondents in the uk and around the world.

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