to address affordability and ensure freedom of decisions over your health care and ensure opportunity so everyone can achieve the american dream much like those who have been seen to be elected. fin much like those who have been seen to be elected.— seen to be elected. on what rodney said. _ seen to be elected. on what rodney said, do _ seen to be elected. on what rodney said, do you - seen to be elected. on what rodney said, do you think. rodney said, do you think president clinton, we have a big circus speaking on behalf of kamala harris but will he be an important messenger for the campaign? it's not uncommon for conventions to have former presidents speak at the convention, it's quite normal to have former leaders speak. it was abnormal to not have, you know, george bush orformer leaders in republican party speak the republican national convention, it's a reflection of how far the republican party has drifted away from the principles that they once had when those people held elected office and that's the only

reason you didn't see it there so it stands in contrast to this convention, which follows pretty normal approach is where you do bring former leaders onto the stage. clinton does have the ability to speak to working class americans, i don't know how much will be on the campaign trail because katir in his voice, he is feeling older and more mature in his age, so i think there will be a decision for him, but there is an element of the democratic party that is still very much believing in strong leadership, globalisation, free trade, balancing the budget, all things that clinton did when he was president. rodney, one thing that — when he was president. rodney, one thing that we _ when he was president. rodney, one thing that we have _ when he was president. rodney, one thing that we have heard - when he was president. rodney, one thing that we have heard on | one thing that we have heard on a few speeches tonight is this message of hope, is there

something that you think is going to resonate beyond this arena, to voters? the themes based upon — arena, to voters? the themes based upon what _ arena, to voters? the themes based upon what the - arena, to voters? the themes| based upon what the democrat activists — based upon what the democrat activists believe is going to convince _ activists believe is going to convince enough undecided voters _ convince enough undecided voters to vote for kamala harris _ voters to vote for kamala harris and tim walz. it's also getting — harris and tim walz. it's also getting people the democrats, the most partisan democrats, getting — the most partisan democrats, getting them to go out and work as hard — getting them to go out and work as hard as — getting them to go out and work as hard as they can in the states— as hard as they can in the states that will matter. at the bottom — states that will matter. at the bottom line is, tonight has been — bottom line is, tonight has been kind of boring compared to the previous night. and that excitement has got to change before — excitement has got to change before governor walz hits the stage. — before governor walz hits the stage, he has to end it on a high — stage, he has to end it on a high note, _ stage, he has to end it on a high note, and tomorrow vice president _ high note, and tomorrow vice president harris has got to do the same _ president harris has got to do the same type ofjob that barack— the same type ofjob that barack obama and michelle obama

did last _ barack obama and michelle obama did last night, to continue this— did last night, to continue this excitement. bill clinton, ithink— this excitement. bill clinton, i think the democrats are probably going tojoe biden him and not — probably going tojoe biden him and not put on the campaign trail, — and not put on the campaign trail, he _ and not put on the campaign trail, he is— and not put on the campaign trail, he is not somebody who will he — trail, he is not somebody who will be able to go to talk to the voters in middle america, he is — the voters in middle america, he is not _ the voters in middle america, he is not one... he and democrats have lost those voters _ democrats have lost those voters to republicans and frankly _ voters to republicans and frankly to donald trump. he is not going _ frankly to donald trump. he is not going to be an asset as the campaign — not going to be an asset as the campaign goes on. he not going to be an asset as the campaign goes on.— campaign goes on. he is a luminary _ campaign goes on. he is a luminary of _ campaign goes on. he is a luminary of the _ campaign goes on. he is a | luminary of the democratic party, he is here to lend his support but certainly not expecting him to be as active in the campaign trail. i expecting him to be as active in the campaign trail.- in the campaign trail. i don't think s0- _ in the campaign trail. i don't think s0- l — in the campaign trail. i don't think so. i would _ in the campaign trail. i don't think so. i would have - in the campaign trail. i don't l think so. i would have thought he would — think so. i would have thought he would have been treated like prince _ he would have been treated like prince harry by the royals and may— prince harry by the royals and may pushed aside a little bit. let's — may pushed aside a little bit. let's not _ may pushed aside a little bit. let's not go down that road on the bbc! but let me ask you both about policy, because we've been speaking to various members of congress, who have been drawn tonight about what to expect from tim walz and stage and kamala harris. given

the country a bit of a better idea of who they are and what they stand for. do you think, stephanie, by the end of the convention, some of those questions will be answered for people who are just tuning in and don't know the answers yet? i think they are being answered, they are talking about access to health care, freedom to choose from talking about economic policies and they will continue to double down on those things. but they down on those things. but they do want to avoid a version of, i had a plan for that. nobody really wants to hear a ten point plan at a convention. you wouldn't expect that. so we shouldn't speak about it as if there are not any proposals out there. ~ ., ., ,, ~' there. what do you think, rodney. _ there. what do you think, rodney, will _ there. what do you think, rodney, will we _ there. what do you think, rodney, will we have - there. what do you think, rodney, will we have a i there. what do you think, - rodney, will we have a better idea of who they are by the end of this convention for what we've seen so far? ladle of this convention for what we've seen so far? we have 323

p -- my — we've seen so far? we have 323 p -- my 323 _ we've seen so far? we have 323 p -- my 323 million _ we've seen so far? we have 323 p -- my 323 million in - we've seen so far? we have 323 p -- my 323 million in this - p —— my 323 million in this country— p —— my 323 million in this country and the average viewership with this convention has been — viewership with this convention has been around 20 million on any given— has been around 20 million on any given time period during the convention time slots, so most — the convention time slots, so most americans are not paying attention— most americans are not paying attention to what's happening here — attention to what's happening here. but those that are probably the most political. the bottom line is, democrats have _ the bottom line is, democrats have to — the bottom line is, democrats have to leave chicago, just like — have to leave chicago, just like republicans should have left milwaukee, wondering who those _ left milwaukee, wondering who those people are who are going to make — those people are who are going to make a — those people are who are going to make a difference in the targeted states. do i believe what's — targeted states. do i believe what's happening here is going to be _ what's happening here is going to be the — what's happening here is going to be the turning factor and whether— to be the turning factor and whether kamala harris wins and tim walz— whether kamala harris wins and tim walz wins? no. but i believe _ tim walz wins? no. but i believe the excitement here can have _ believe the excitement here can have an — believe the excitement here can have an effect. but who wins in those _ have an effect. but who wins in those very— have an effect. but who wins in those very tight races in those very— those very tight races in those very targeted states in the focus _ very targeted states in the focus in _ very targeted states in the focus in the rust belt in arizona _ focus in the rust belt in arizona-— focus in the rust belt in arizona. ~ ., arizona. we were at the rnc toaether arizona. we were at the rnc together as _ arizona. we were at the rnc together as well, _ arizona. we were at the rnc together as well, there - arizona. we were at the rnc together as well, there was. arizona. we were at the rnc| together as well, there was a lot of joy and together as well, there was a lot ofjoy and euphoria there, you're saying republicans didn't leave that convention picking that up in the way they should have? i picking that up in the way they should have?— should have? i think president trump lost _

should have? i think president trump lost the _ should have? i think president trump lost the trust _ should have? i think president trump lost the trust he - should have? i think president trump lost the trust he had i should have? i think president. trump lost the trust he had and i trump lost the trust he had and i believe — trump lost the trust he had and i believe republicans unfortunately leaving milwaukee knowing it was going to be a race — knowing it was going to be a race at— knowing it was going to be a race at the time between president biden and president trump — president biden and president trump so they might not have needed — trump so they might not have needed to work as hard. they need — needed to work as hard. they need to— needed to work as hard. they need to take a step back president trump needs to take a step back— president trump needs to take a step back and become bored —— more _ step back and become bored —— more discipline. hopefully he is doing — more discipline. hopefully he is doing that and applicants need — is doing that and applicants need to— is doing that and applicants need to be energised as the republicans are going to be ferman _ republicans are going to be ferman vice president harris delivers _ ferman vice president harris delivers a _ ferman vice president harris delivers a barn—burner speech tomorrow— delivers a barn—burner speech tomorrow which i expect. we have seen — tomorrow which i expect. - have seen president trump and his running matejd vance out on the campaign trail in battleground states, but let's see now if we can go to my colleague. she was going to be at the convention floor, i don't think she's there yet. it is a very fluid situation. we are going to try to get katrina parry up. she's been speaking to some delegates. in the meantime, stephanie, if we come back to you, go ahead. i

meantime, stephanie, if we come back to you, go ahead.— back to you, go ahead. i think president _ back to you, go ahead. i think president trump _ back to you, go ahead. i think president trump was - back to you, go ahead. i think president trump was not - president trump was not encouraging his supporters to get out and vote. he spoke and he said, were not focus on getting more people to vote, we are focused on ensuring the other side doesn't cheat. to me, it sounds a bit dangerous, because it is laying the groundwork for claiming that the election was unfair even before there was an election. i think that the really dangerous thing. he is not doing what candidates should do which is to encourage people to vote tomorrow that he is. katrina, if ou tomorrow that he is. katrina, if you can _ tomorrow that he is. katrina, if you can hear _ tomorrow that he is. katrina, if you can hear us, _ tomorrow that he is. katrina, if you can hear us, let - tomorrow that he is. katrina, if you can hear us, let us - tomorrow that he is. katrina, | if you can hear us, let us know what you're seeing on the floor. i think ithinki i think i can hear now, it is very loud down here, as you can imagine. they have closed all

the doors so if you're not on the doors so if you're not on the far right now i had of the address by tim walz as he formally accepts the party nomination, delegates are not going to get in. a great level of excitement and anticipation. we just heard from tony west, donald harris's brother—in—law, and i want now to bring in a friend of the family. she is a bay area artist and friend of kamala harris and herfamily. how exciting a moment is this for you to be at the convention here and hearing from her and tim walz? it here and hearing from her and tim walz?— tim walz? it is extremely exciting- _ tim walz? it is extremely exciting- l _ tim walz? it is extremely exciting. i have _ tim walz? it is extremely exciting. i have never- tim walz? it is extremely. exciting. i have never been tim walz? it is extremely - exciting. i have never been to the convention before, but i feel— the convention before, but i feel personally invested, being from _ feel personally invested, being from the — feel personally invested, being from the bay area and knowing kamala — from the bay area and knowing kamala harris and knowing what a big _ kamala harris and knowing what a big moment this is. i don't a big moment this is. idon't feel— a big moment this is. i don't feel like _ a big moment this is. i don't feel like we could have a more fitting — feel like we could have a more fitting president, also here in support— fitting president, also here in support of congresswoman barbara — support of congresswoman barbara lee and congresswoman latifa _ barbara lee and congresswoman latifa simon. barbara lee and congresswoman latifa simon-—

latifa simon. there is a big delegation _ latifa simon. there is a big delegation from _ latifa simon. there is a big delegation from california . delegation from california here, also all the friends and family, big moment forthe family, big moment for the state. family, big moment forthe state. it family, big moment for the state. , ., state. it is huge for california, - state. it is huge for california, it - state. it is huge for california, it is - state. it is huge for| california, it is huge state. it is huge for- california, it is huge for the bay— california, it is huge for the bay area _ california, it is huge for the bay area and it is huge for women _ bay area and it is huge for women of colour. this is really a special— women of colour. this is really a special moment and i feel like — a special moment and i feel like it— a special moment and i feel like it is— a special moment and i feel like it is our moment and i feel— like it is our moment and i feel like _ like it is our moment and i feel like they understand the issues — feel like they understand the issues for everyone. yellow might— issues for everyone. yellow might be _ issues for everyone. yellow might be onto that energy and excitement and enthusiasm from those _ excitement and enthusiasm from those of— excitement and enthusiasm from those of you who know kamala harris, — those of you who know kamala harris, is — those of you who know kamala harris, is she going to appeal beyond — harris, is she going to appeal beyond that, is this a moment across— beyond that, is this a moment across the _ beyond that, is this a moment across the country? for sure, and _ across the country? for sure, and i_ across the country? for sure, and i feel— across the country? for sure, and i feel like she is highly qualified, and i know she understands the struggle on every— understands the struggle on every level and has such a wide perspective, so i'm excited for her leadership and i think it's time — her leadership and i think it's time. ., ., , ., time. you have performed as a number of— time. you have performed as a number of family _ time. you have performed as a number of family events - time. you have performed as a number of family events for i time. you have performed as a| number of family events for her over the years, she is a big

supporter of local artists, thatis supporter of local artists, that is something that matters to her. , ., ~ that is something that matters to her. , . ,, ., to her. yes, and i think art and music. _ to her. yes, and i think art and music, we _ to her. yes, and i think art and music, we influence i to her. yes, and i think art. and music, we influence life and — and music, we influence life and life _ and music, we influence life and life influences us and i think— and life influences us and i think it's _ and life influences us and i think it's important to have someone _ think it's important to have someone who understands that investment and who believes in inspiring — investment and who believes in inspiring joy and what is possible. so inspiring 'oy and what is possible.— inspiring 'oy and what is ossible. ., , . possible. so do you expect if she is elected _ possible. so do you expect if she is elected you _ possible. so do you expect if she is elected you might i possible. so do you expect if she is elected you might get| she is elected you might get invited to the white house? i don't want to assume anything, but i _ don't want to assume anything, but i would hope so!— but i would hope so! that's . reat, but i would hope so! that's great, thank _ but i would hope so! that's great, thank you _ but i would hope so! that's great, thank you so - but i would hope so! that's great, thank you so much l but i would hope so! that's i great, thank you so much for speaking to us, we really appreciated. as you heard there, the excitement is building ahead of tim walz the minnesota governor, who will take to the stage quite shortly behind us there. wejust take to the stage quite shortly behind us there. we just have the nevada senator coming out there. it is standing room only

here, people are wedged in an standing along the aisles, you are blocking the view of other delegates so security are doing their best to move people along, a certain amount of anticipation as well as to what governor walz might say in his speech. he is very well—known in of course, a two term governor and multi—term congressman as well, high school teacher, football coach and so on. but this really is his moment to introduce himself to the nation. those who are gathered here today obviously very supportive, convinced and convicted democrats who have volunteered, who have done everything for the party that merits them to be a delegate and to attend here but it is also a massive television audience as well, and that is who tim walz and kamala harris and the whole campaign team are seeking to appeal to, so we are going to hearfrom him, essentially telling us about

his background, his life story, growing up a foreign —— on a farm in nebraska, his service in the national guard, is a high school teacher, is a football coach, the qualities that he thinks he would bring to being a vice president and appealing particularly to those voters in that midwestern region, the states neighbouring and nearby to his own which of course those key battleground states where this race potentially is going to come down to a few hundred or a few thousand votes. all right, thank you so much for that update the floor. —— from the floor. i want to come now to my guest to my left, congresswoman debbie wasserman shultz and the former chair of the dnc for so good to have you with us on bbc news. as former chair of the dnc, give us an idea of what you make of this convention so far stop it was

obviously a pretty quick switch for organisers to change from president biden to vice president biden to vice president harris. think the transition we have made... from joe biden transition we have made... from joe biden softly _ transition we have made... from joe biden softly stepping - transition we have made... fr'rrrn joe biden softly stepping aside and passing the torch, endorsing kamala harris and being here in this electrified arena with the momentum and the crescendo that we've been building, demonstrates how nimble the democratic party is, how unified we are, how clear it is to us that we need to make sure that we draw that contrast between extreme makka republican policies that have taken this country backwards and that we don't want to return to, and the biden—harris administration because my progress and the ability to build on what they laid out the other day, making sure homeowners have an opportunity to build affordable housing, ensuring that we adopt the child tax credit again so

people don't have to choose between childcare and working, ensuring that we can really make sure we reduce the cost of health care because the health care crisis forces people to live one paycheque away from devastation. that's the contrast. donald trump and dean—macro maga republicans care more about taking care of the wealthy, we take care of working families. if the wealthy, we take care of working families.— working families. if we talk about the _ working families. if we talk about the economic - working families. if we talk i about the economic situation... you know what, i think we are seeing the pets governorjosh shapiro speaking at the moment. —— the pennsylvania governor. let's listen in to what he is going to say. let's listen in to what he is going to say-— let's listen in to what he is going to say. thank you. two and a half — going to say. thank you. two and a half centuries - going to say. thank you. two and a half centuries ago, i going to say. thank you. two and a half centuries ago, in l and a half centuries ago, in philadelphia, a band of patriots declared their independence from a king and set ourselves on a path of self—determination. generation

after— self—determination. generation after generation has embraced the responsibility. ordinary americans rising up, demanding more, _ americans rising up, demanding more, seekingjustice. and in every— more, seekingjustice. and in every chapter of our american story, — every chapter of our american story, we _ every chapter of our american story, we have made progress and advance the cause of freedom. today, well, today we find ourselves writing that next — find ourselves writing that next chapter. will we be a nation _ next chapter. will we be a nation defined by chaos and extremism, orwill we nation defined by chaos and extremism, or will we choose a path _ extremism, or will we choose a path of— extremism, or will we choose a path of decency, honour and continued progress? kamala harris, — continued progress? kamala harris, well, she has spent her entire — harris, well, she has spent her entire career making progress. donald — entire career making progress. donald trump, a man with no guard — donald trump, a man with no guard rails, wants to take away our rights — guard rails, wants to take away our rights and our freedoms, and — our rights and our freedoms, and listen, while he cloaks himself— and listen, while he cloaks himself in the blanket of

freedom, what he is offering isn't — freedom, what he is offering isn't freedom at all. because, hear— isn't freedom at all. because, hear me — isn't freedom at all. because, hear me on this, it is no freedom _ hear me on this, it is no freedom to tell our children what — freedom to tell our children what books they are allowed to read _ what books they are allowed to read no, — what books they are allowed to read. no, it's not. and it is not — read. no, it's not. and it is not freedom to tell women what they can — not freedom to tell women what they can do with their bodies. and _ they can do with their bodies. and here _ they can do with their bodies. and here me on this, it sure as hell— and here me on this, it sure as hell isn't — and here me on this, it sure as hell isn't freedom to say you can go— hell isn't freedom to say you can go vote but he gets to pick the winner. that's not freedom. but you — the winner. that's not freedom. but you know what? democrats, we are _ but you know what? democrats, we are the — but you know what? democrats, we are the party of real freedom. that's right. the kind of real— freedom. that's right. the kind of real freedom that comes when that child — of real freedom that comes when that child has a great public school, _ that child has a great public school, with an awesome teacher, _ school, with an awesome teacher, because we believe in her future _

teacher, because we believe in herfuture. realfreedom teacher, because we believe in her future. real freedom that comes— her future. real freedom that comes when we invest in the police — comes when we invest in the police and the community, so that— police and the community, so that child _ police and the community, so that child can walk to and from school — that child can walk to and from school and get home safely to her mum _ school and get home safely to her mum. real freedom, school and get home safely to her mum. realfreedom, real freedom _ her mum. realfreedom, real freedom that comes when she can 'oin freedom that comes when she can join a _ freedom that comes when she can join a union. — freedom that comes when she can join a union, marry who she loves, — join a union, marry who she loves, start a family on her own— loves, start a family on her own terms, breathe clean air, drink— own terms, breathe clean air, drink pure _ own terms, breathe clean air, drink pure water, worship how shi once — drink pure water, worship how shi once and live a life of purpose _ shi once and live a life of purpose where she is respected for who — purpose where she is respected for who she is. purpose where she is respected forwho she is. —— purpose where she is respected for who she is. —— worship hao shi one — for who she is. —— worship hao shi one -- _ for who she is. —— worship hao shi one. —— how she wants. real freedom — shi one. —— how she wants. real freedom that comes when she can look at _ freedom that comes when she can look at madam president and know— look at madam president and know that this is a nation where _ know that this is a nation where anything and everything is possible. that is real

freedom, and that is what we are fighting for. you know, carla — are fighting for. you know, carla and _ are fighting for. you know, carla and tim's names may be on the ballot — carla and tim's names may be on the ballot but it is your rights, _ the ballot but it is your rights, it is our rights, it is our— rights, it is our rights, it is our future _ rights, it is our rights, it is our future and freedoms that are on— our future and freedoms that are on the line. —— kamala and tim's— are on the line. —— kamala and tim's names _ are on the line. —— kamala and tim's names. you have the power to shape — tim's names. you have the power to shape the — tim's names. you have the power to shape the future of this country. _ to shape the future of this country, just like our ancestors, who fought for freedom on the battlefield and sat in— freedom on the battlefield and sat in at— freedom on the battlefield and sat in at lunch counters so our kids— sat in at lunch counters so our kids could _ sat in at lunch counters so our kids could stand up. now it's on us, — kids could stand up. now it's on us, it's— kids could stand up. now it's on us, it's on us, my friends, to organise _ on us, it's on us, my friends, to organise in our communities, and on — to organise in our communities, and on our—

to organise in our communities, and on our for you pages on three _ and on our for you pages on three american principles. we value — three american principles. we value our— three american principles. we value our freedom, we cherish our democracy, and we love this country — country. cheering and applause and listen... we love this country. and listen, _ we love this country. and listen, despite our challenges, hear— listen, despite our challenges, hear me — listen, despite our challenges, hear me on this, i want you to know. — hear me on this, i want you to know. i— hear me on this, i want you to know, i have never been more hopeful. — know, i have never been more hopeful, because i see in all of you — hopeful, because i see in all of you the enduring promise of america — of you the enduring promise of america. out of many, one. it is not — america. out of many, one. it is not merely a motto from the past, _ is not merely a motto from the past, it— is not merely a motto from the past, it is— is not merely a motto from the past, it is our direction for the — past, it is our direction for the future. you see, you all give — the future. you see, you all give me _ the future. you see, you all give me hope, and you all have the power _

give me hope, and you all have the power. so let's use that power. _ the power. so let's use that power, let's do the hard work necessary— power, let's do the hard work necessary to win this election and to— necessary to win this election and to write the next chapter in our — and to write the next chapter in ouramerican and to write the next chapter in our american story. so, are you _ in our american story. so, are you ready— in our american story. so, are you ready to— in our american story. so, are you ready to protect our rights? _ you ready to protect our rights? are you ready to secure a freedoms? and are you ready to defend — a freedoms? and are you ready to defend our democracy? and are you — to defend our democracy? and are you ready to elect kamala harris — are you ready to elect kamala harris and tim walz? america, let's— harris and tim walz? america, let's get— harris and tim walz? america, let's get to _ harris and tim walz? america, let's get to work. thank you. josh shapiro bringing the arena to the floor there. he could see people getting a out of their seats to cheer him. go to speaking to debbie wasserman shultz, just to get your

reaction to that speech, really leading into the theme of freedom, saying we are the party of real freedom. i5 party of real freedom. i3 absolutely right and that is the contrast i talking about earlier. you have the extreme maga republicans who want to dictate every aspect of our lives, and in books, taking away women's reproductive choices, getting involved in who you can love and who you can marry and preventing people who are gay from serving in the military and going after trans people, but we are doing is making sure that we can create more opportunities, that choices are more available to anyone, notjust most anyone, not just most fortunate, anyone, notjust most fortunate, not based on who you are or you love or your background or your creed. that's the choice that people will have going into this election. i will have going into this election-— will have going into this election. . ., ., election. i wanted to ask you, ou election. i wanted to ask you, you have _ election. i wanted to ask you, you have been _ election. i wanted to ask you, you have been very _ election. i wanted to ask you, you have been very vocal- election. i wanted to ask you, . you have been very vocal about your support for israel and of course the israel gaza war has been a subject topic of this

convention. we saw hostage families speaking, very emotional moments, just tell us a bit more, and i'm assuming you have spoken to them, what is it they want to see from the us right now? 50 is it they want to see from the us right now?— is it they want to see from the us right now? so many different hostaue us right now? so many different hostage families, _ us right now? so many different hostage families, the _ us right now? so many different hostage families, the what i hostage families, the what exactly what they said on the stage, they want the hostages released, they want the terror threat that hamas represents brought to an end. no nation should look for the terrorist threat on their doorsteps. and the suffering has to be brought to an end. and that suffering is at the hands of hamas. both the palestinian in gaza who are victims of hamas as have been the israelis. we are here united in this hall behind that notion, you saw people standing up notion, you saw people standing up and saying, bring them home. he saw people supportive of the

entire message, which is, we need to make sure that the hostages are brought home and we need to make sure that everyone's suffering is brought to an end. we need hamas to take the deal and that is what will happen as a result. he said unity _ will happen as a result. he said unity here at the convention, there are a number of uncommitted delegates who say that they asked for a palestinian speaker to be represented on stage here at the convention and they were disappointed that did not happen. they want to see more voice even to palestinian suffering, also from the biden—harris administration. what is your response to that, these uncommitted delegates? i think it was made very clear from the floor tonight, a good friend and former colleague keith ellison, now the attorney general of minnesota, he is a muslim american and made very clear that again, everyone's suffering needs to be brought to an end, do a ceasefire deal

that brings the hostages home and ensures that we have a plan so that you don't have a terrorist organisation able to continue to persecute people, and who are sworn to the destruction of israel and who has their own people, the palestinian people in gaza, suffer at their hands every single day. if suffer at their hands every single day-— suffer at their hands every sinale da . ., , ., single day. if the war is going to continue, _ single day. if the war is going to continue, if— single day. if the war is going to continue, if a _ single day. if the war is going to continue, if a ceasefire i to continue, if a ceasefire deal does not come to bear, despite the current negotiations, are you concerned that tens of thousands of palestinians who have been suffering and dying, it will really impact also this election?— really impact also this election? ~ ., election? we are committed, the united states _ election? we are committed, the united states and _ election? we are committed, the united states and israel- election? we are committed, the united states and israel are i united states and israel are committed to making sure that the humanitarian aid gets into the humanitarian aid gets into the palestinian people in gaza, but who is that from happening? hamas. they siphon food of the top, they still supplies, there are so many different facets of their victimisation of their own people, and their

victimisation of israelis. they need to take the deal, and the world and the allies in the arab leadership in the region need to bring more pressure to bear. b. need to bring more pressure to bear. �* w' .,, need to bring more pressure to bear. . w .,, , ., bear. a quick last question, what are — bear. a quick last question, what are you _ bear. a quick last question, what are you looking - bear. a quick last question, | what are you looking forward bear. a quick last question, i what are you looking forward to seeing from governor walz on stage tonight? tim seeing from governor walz on stage tonight?— seeing from governor walz on stage tonight? tim walz is the most genuine. _ stage tonight? tim walz is the most genuine, gently - stage tonight? tim walz is the most genuine, gently spoken . stage tonight? tim walz is the i most genuine, gently spoken and bighearted guy, such a dear friend, and you will see on the stage tonight that his genuineness and has plans to be a partner to kamala harris, to ensure that we can rebuild our economy from the middle out and not the top down like the other side has been doing.— side has been doing. always treat to side has been doing. always great to have _ side has been doing. always great to have you, _ side has been doing. always great to have you, thank- side has been doing. always| great to have you, thank you forjoining us. we are going to continue the conversation here to my right. we have patrick mercer. —— marc murphy. america's first iraq veteran elected to congress. and former

roommate of tim walz. we were asked about that in the moment but first of all, pennsylvania, what did you think of the address from governor shapiro? he crushed it, and he talked about instead ofjust about instead of just mentioning, about instead ofjust mentioning, this election is about freedom, freedom to chooseif about freedom, freedom to choose if you are a woman of your own productive rights, freedom to assemble and the first amendment in the workplace and potentially strike, which donald trump and elon musk said, just fire everybody, which by the way it is against federal law. it is to be that the republicans just want to get involved in how people do the business at home and that is not one of the principles of the constitution, the democratic party, frankie most americans.— the democratic party, frankie most americans. and it will be a critical state _ most americans. and it will be a critical state for _ most americans. and it will be a critical state for both - a critical state for both sides, what you think, harris and tim walz need to do to be able to win pennsylvania? i think they continue to speak form from their hearts. a lot

of the base is in the suburbs in the state, what you see is folks in pennsylvania, where we have just under a folks in pennsylvania, where we havejust under a million have just under a million veterans, havejust under a million veterans, have have just under a million veterans, have about havejust under a million veterans, have about 4 million catholics in pennsylvania, they love kamala harris and tim walz, the love her plain—spoken this. that team is a breath of fresh air, and people work for them, they will help them get elected to the highest office, they will be proud for the rest of their lies. let they will be proud for the rest of their lies.— of their lies. let me ask you about tim — of their lies. let me ask you about tim walz, _ of their lies. let me ask you about tim walz, he - of their lies. let me ask you about tim walz, he was i of their lies. let me ask you | about tim walz, he was your roommate, tell us about what you learnt of him they think it's important for people to know. �* , , know. it's interesting, we went to orientation, _ know. it's interesting, we went to orientation, both _ know. it's interesting, we went to orientation, both with i know. it's interesting, we went to orientation, both with young families, we were looking frankly for the cheapest apartments we could get in washington. he served for 20,

40 washington. he served for 20, a0 years in washington. he served for 20, ao years in our army and i serve, with both deployed after 9/11, i lost 19 men in my unit, which is why i ran for congress and won and had the honour of serving with him. he really see how people are when the cameras are not on. you only see what people are once a long day and you go home and talk about those issues. when i was his roommate, he led the fight for the 21st century gi bill. either the fight does my... i will tell you, some are like him, knowing him and his family, i couldn't be more proud as an american and i hope he is our next vice president.

we have seen a number of attacks from the republicans. one of them has been, we have seen a letter, from house republicans accusing him of egregious misrepresentation of his military career. what do you think other than what is your response? i you think other than what is your response?— your response? i think it's absolutely _ your response? i think it's absolutely disgraceful. i your response? i think it's i absolutely disgraceful. they did it to john absolutely disgraceful. they did it tojohn kerry in 200a and we will not let it happen again. tim walz served honourably. he has been in some of the longest wars in america, he left his wife and his job to serve, he came home and retired. forthese serve, he came home and retired. for these jokers, serve, he came home and retired. forthesejokers, led by donald trump, who got five deferments during vietnam. i think they should be ashamed of themselves. we think they should be ashamed of themselves-— think they should be ashamed of themselves. we had to leave the conversation _ themselves. we had to leave the conversation there _ themselves. we had to leave the conversation there are _ themselves. we had to leave the conversation there are but i conversation there are but thank you much forjoining us, the have you on bbc news.

katrina, i think you are down there. i don't know if you can hear me, but i think we are seeing oprah out on stage. this seeing oprah out on stage. as ou seeing oprah out on stage. is you can probably hear from your position, the arena has gone absolutely wild. everybody has leapt to their feet, cheering and clapping oprah winfrey, a real icon in american public life, so let's listen to what she is saying.— life, so let's listen to what she is saying. who says you can't go _ she is saying. who says you can't go home _ she is saying. who says you can't go home again? i she is saying. who says you can't go home again? after| can't go home again? after watching obamas last night, that was some epic fire, wasn't it? some — that was some epic fire, wasn't it? some epic fire. we are now

so fired — it? some epic fire. we are now so fired up. _ it? some epic fire. we are now so fired up, we can't wait to leave — so fired up, we can't wait to leave here _ so fired up, we can't wait to leave here and do something. and what— leave here and do something. and what we are going to do is select— and what we are going to do is select kamala harris as the next — select kamala harris as the next president of the united states _ applause lam iamso i am so honoured to be asked to speak— i am so honoured to be asked to speak on— i am so honoured to be asked to speak on tonight steam about what — speak on tonight steam about what matters most to me, to you and all — what matters most to me, to you and all of _ what matters most to me, to you and all of us — what matters most to me, to you and all of us americans. freedom. there are people who want _ freedom. there are people who want you — freedom. there are people who want you to see our country as a nation — want you to see our country as a nation of— want you to see our country as a nation of us against them, people — a nation of us against them, people who want to scare you, who _ people who want to scare you, who want _ people who want to scare you, who want to rule you, people who — who want to rule you, people who would have you believe that books _ who would have you believe that books are — who would have you believe that books are dangerous. and

assault— books are dangerous. and assault rifles are safe. that there — assault rifles are safe. that there is _ assault rifles are safe. that there is a _ assault rifles are safe. that there is a right way to worship under— there is a right way to worship under wrong way to love. people who seek— under wrong way to love. people who seek first to divide and then— who seek first to divide and then to _ who seek first to divide and then to conquer. but here is then to conquer. but here is the thing _ then to conquer. but here is the thing. when we stand together, it is impossible to conquer— together, it is impossible to conquer us. applause in the words of an extraordinary american, the late — extraordinary american, the late congressman, john lewis. he said. — late congressman, john lewis. he said, no matter what ship our ancestors arrived on, we are — our ancestors arrived on, we are all— our ancestors arrived on, we are all in— our ancestors arrived on, we are all in the same boat now. congresswoman lewis knew very well how — congresswoman lewis knew very well how far this country has come. — well how far this country has come, because he was one of the brilliant _ come, because he was one of the brilliant americans who helped to get— brilliant americans who helped to get us—

brilliant americans who helped to get us where we are. but he also _ to get us where we are. but he also knew— to get us where we are. but he also knew that the work is not done, — also knew that the work is not done, the _ also knew that the work is not done, the work will never be done — done, the work will never be done because freedom is not free — done because freedom is not free. america is an ongoing project _ free. america is an ongoing project it— free. america is an ongoing project. it requires commitment, it requires commitment, it requires commitment and being open to the hard — commitment and being open to the hard work and the heart work— the hard work and the heart work of— the hard work and the heart work of democracy. and every now _ work of democracy. and every now and — work of democracy. and every now and then, it requires standing _ now and then, it requires standing up to life's bullies. i standing up to life's bullies. i know— standing up to life's bullies. i know this. i have lived in mississippi. in tennessee. in wisconsin. maryland. florida. hawaii — wisconsin. maryland. florida. hawaii. colorado. california. and — hawaii. colorado. california. and sweet home chicago,

illinois _ i have actually travelled this country _ i have actually travelled this country from the redwood forest. _ country from the redwood forest, love those redwood to the gulf— forest, love those redwood to the gulf stream forests and i've the gulf stream forests and i've seen— the gulf stream forests and i've seen racism, sexism and income — i've seen racism, sexism and income inequality. i've not only— income inequality. i've not only seen it, at times i've been _ only seen it, at times i've been on _ only seen it, at times i've been on the receiving end of it. been on the receiving end of it but — been on the receiving end of it. but more often than not, what — it. but more often than not, what i've _ it. but more often than not, what i've witnessed and experienced are human beings, both— experienced are human beings, both conservative and liberal who — both conservative and liberal who may _ both conservative and liberal who may not agree with each other— who may not agree with each other but _ who may not agree with each other but who still would help you in — other but who still would help you in a — other but who still would help you in a heartbeat if you were in trouble _ you in a heartbeat if you were in trouble. these are the people _ in trouble. these are the people who make me proud to say that i_ people who make me proud to say that i am — people who make me proud to say that i am an american. applause they are the best of america, and despite what some would have — and despite what some would have you _

and despite what some would have you think, we are not so different— have you think, we are not so different from our neighbours. when — different from our neighbours. when a — different from our neighbours. when a house is on fire, we don't — when a house is on fire, we don't ask— when a house is on fire, we don't ask about the hone owner's _ don't ask about the hone owner's race or religion. we don't — owner's race or religion. we don't wonder who their partner is or— don't wonder who their partner is or how— don't wonder who their partner is or how they voted. no. we just— is or how they voted. no. we just try— is or how they voted. no. we just try to— is or how they voted. no. we just try to do the best we can to save — just try to do the best we can to save them and if the place happens _ to save them and if the place happens to belong to a childless cat lady... applause well, we try to get that cat out to _ well, we try to get that cat out to. because we are a country— out to. because we are a country of people who work hard for the _ country of people who work hard for the money. we wish our brothers— for the money. we wish our brothers and sisters well and we pray— brothers and sisters well and we pray for peace. we know all of the — we pray for peace. we know all of the old — we pray for peace. we know all of the old tricks and tropes that— of the old tricks and tropes that are _ of the old tricks and tropes that are designed to distract us from _ that are designed to distract us from what actually matters,

but we — us from what actually matters, but we are _ us from what actually matters, but we are beyond ridiculous tweets — but we are beyond ridiculous tweets and lies and foolery. these — tweets and lies and foolery. these are complicated times, people. — these are complicated times, people, and they require adult conversation. and i welcome those — conversation. and i welcome those conversations, because civilised — those conversations, because civilised debate it is vital to democracy and it is the best of america — democracy and it is the best of america. overthe democracy and it is the best of america. over the last couple of nights, _ america. over the last couple of nights, we have all seen brave — of nights, we have all seen brave people walk onto the stage — brave people walk onto the stage and share their most private _ stage and share their most private pain. amanda and josh, caitlin, — private pain. amanda and josh, caitlin, hadley, they told us their— caitlin, hadley, they told us their story of rape and incest and — their story of rape and incest and near— their story of rape and incest and near death experiences from having _ and near death experiences from having the — and near death experiences from having the state deny them the abortion— having the state deny them the abortion that their doctor explained whilst medically necessary. i may have told us these — necessary. i may have told us these things for one reason,

which — these things for one reason, which is _ these things for one reason, which is to keep what happened to them — which is to keep what happened to them from happening to anybody else. because if you do not have — anybody else. because if you do not have autonomy over this, over— not have autonomy over this, over this, _ not have autonomy over this, overthis, if not have autonomy over this, over this, if you cannot control, _ over this, if you cannot control, when and how you choose _ control, when and how you choose to _ control, when and how you choose to bring your children into — choose to bring your children into this _ choose to bring your children into this world and how they are raised and supported, there is no _ are raised and supported, there is no american dream. applause the women and men who are battling — the women and men who are battling to keep us from going back— battling to keep us from going back to — battling to keep us from going back to a _ battling to keep us from going back to a time of desperation and shame and stone cold fear, they— and shame and stone cold fear, they are — and shame and stone cold fear, they are the new freedom fighters. and make no mistake, they— fighters. and make no mistake, they are — fighters. and make no mistake, they are the best of america. i want _ they are the best of america. i want to— they are the best of america. i want to talk now about someone who is— want to talk now about someone who is not— want to talk now about someone who is not with us tonight. tessie _ who is not with us tonight. tessie was born in new orleans

not long — tessie was born in new orleans not long after the supreme court — not long after the supreme court ruled that segregated public — court ruled that segregated public schools were unconstitutional. that was in 1954, — unconstitutional. that was in 1954, the _ unconstitutional. that was in 1954, the year i was born but i didn't— 1954, the year i was born but i didn't have _ 1954, the year i was born but i didn't have to head to first grade _ didn't have to head to first grade at— didn't have to head to first grade at the all white school with — grade at the all white school with the _ grade at the all white school with the us marshal by my side like tessie did and when i got to school, _ like tessie did and when i got to school, the building wasn't empty— to school, the building wasn't empty like it was for tessie. you — empty like it was for tessie. you see, _ empty like it was for tessie. you see, rather than allowing madonna _ you see, rather than allowing madonna to be integrated, parents _ madonna to be integrated, parents pulled their kids out of the — parents pulled their kids out of the school, leaving only tessie _ of the school, leaving only tessie and two other little black— tessie and two other little black girls, gail and tessie and two other little black girls, gailand leona, to sit in — black girls, gailand leona, to sit in a — black girls, gailand leona, to sit in a classroom with the windows— sit in a classroom with the windows papered over to block snipers — windows papered over to block snipers from attacking their six—year—old bodies. tessie passed _ six—year—old bodies. tessie passed away six weeks ago, and itell— passed away six weeks ago, and i tell this —

passed away six weeks ago, and i tell this story to honour her tonight _ i tell this story to honour her tonight. because she... applause she, like ruby bridges and her friends, — she, like ruby bridges and her friends, leona and gail, the new— friends, leona and gail, the new orleans macro for they were called. _ you're you ' re loyally you're loyally may break barriers _ you're loyally may break barriers and they paid dearly for it— barriers and they paid dearly for it but— barriers and they paid dearly for it but it was the grace and guts— for it but it was the grace and guts and _ for it but it was the grace and guts and courage of women like tessie _ guts and courage of women like tessie that paved the way for another— tessie that paved the way for another young girl who nine years— another young girl who nine years later became part of the second — years later became part of the second class to integrate the public — second class to integrate the public schools in berkeley, california. this and it seems to me — california. this and it seems to me that our school and at home, — to me that our school and at home, somebody did a beautiful 'ob home, somebody did a beautiful job of— home, somebody did a beautiful job of showing this young girl how to — job of showing this young girl how to challenge the people at

the top — how to challenge the people at the top and empower the at the bottom. they showed her how to — at the bottom. they showed her how to look at the world and see not— how to look at the world and see not what is but what can be. see not what is but what can be they _ see not what is but what can be. they instilled in her a passion _ be. they instilled in her a passion forjustice and freedom and the — passion forjustice and freedom and the glorious fighting spirit _ and the glorious fighting spirit necessary to pursue that passion — spirit necessary to pursue that passion. i'm soon, and very soon — passion. i'm soon, and very soon -- _ passion. i'm soon, and very soon -- and _ passion. i'm soon, and very soon —— and sooner and very soon~~ _ soon —— and sooner and very soon~~ we _ soon —— and sooner and very soon... we are going to be teaching _ soon... we are going to be teaching our daughters and sons about— teaching our daughters and sons about how this child of an indian _ about how this child of an indian motherand a about how this child of an indian mother and a jamaican father, — indian mother and a jamaican father, two idealistic, energetic immigrants, immigrants... applause how this child grew up to be the 47th _ how this child grew up to be the 47th president of the united _ the 47th president of the united states. applause

that is the best of america. you know... let me tell you this — you know... let me tell you this this— you know... let me tell you this. this election is not about— this. this election is not about us— this. this election is not about us and them. it's about you and — about us and them. it's about you and me. and what we want our future _ you and me. and what we want our future is to look like. there _ our future is to look like. there are _ our future is to look like. there are choices to be made when — there are choices to be made when we _ there are choices to be made when we cast our ballots. there is a certain— when we cast our ballots. there is a certain candidate who says if we _ is a certain candidate who says if we go — is a certain candidate who says if we go to— is a certain candidate who says if we go to the polls this one time, — if we go to the polls this one time, we _ if we go to the polls this one time, we never have to do it again — time, we never have to do it again. well, you know what? you are looking — again. well, you know what? you are looking at a registered independent who is proud to vote — independent who is proud to vote again and again and again because — vote again and again and again because i'm an american and that— because i'm an american and that is— because i'm an american and that is what americans do.

applause voting is the best of america. and _ voting is the best of america. and i— voting is the best of america. and i have _ voting is the best of america. and i have always, since i was eligible — and i have always, since i was eligible to— and i have always, since i was eligible to vote, i've always voted — eligible to vote, i've always voted my values, and that is what — voted my values, and that is what is — voted my values, and that is what is needed in this election now more _ what is needed in this election now more than ever, so i'm calling — now more than ever, so i'm calling on— now more than ever, so i'm calling on all of you independence and all of you undecideds, you know this is true — undecideds, you know this is true you _ undecideds, you know this is true. you know i'm telling the truth — true. you know i'm telling the truth that— true. you know i'm telling the truth that values and character matter— truth that values and character matter most of all. applause in leadership and in life, and more — in leadership and in life, and more than anything, you know this is— more than anything, you know this is true, the decency and respect _ this is true, the decency and respect are on the ballot in

2024 _ respect are on the ballot in 2024. and just plain common sense — 2024. and just plain common sense. common sense tells you that kamala harris and tim walz can give — that kamala harris and tim walz can give us— that kamala harris and tim walz can give us decency and respect _ can give us decency and respect. they are the ones to give — respect. they are the ones to give it— respect. they are the ones to give it to _ respect. they are the ones to give it to us. so, we are americans, we are americans. let us — americans, we are americans. let us choose loyalty to the constitution over loyalty to any — constitution over loyalty to any individual. because that is the best— any individual. because that is the best of america. and let us choose — the best of america. and let us choose optimism over cynicism, because — choose optimism over cynicism, because that is the best of american —— america. letters include — american —— america. letters include -- _ american —— america. letters include —— have inclusion over retribution— include —— have inclusion over retribution and common sense

over— retribution and common sense over nonsense. because that is the best of america. and let us choose the sweet — america. and let us choose the sweet promise of tomorrow over the bay— sweet promise of tomorrow over the bay to— sweet promise of tomorrow over the bay to return to yesterday. -- the — the bay to return to yesterday. —— the bitter return. we will not — —— the bitter return. we will not be — —— the bitter return. we will not be sent back, pushed back, pulled — not be sent back, pushed back, pulled back, bullied back. we are not— pulled back, bullied back. we are not going back. applause we are not going back. so, let us choose _ we are not going back. so, let us choose the truth, let us choose _ us choose the truth, let us choose honour, and let us sure use -- — choose honour, and let us sure use —— choose joy. because that

is the _ use —— choose joy. because that is the best— use —— choose joy. because that is the best of america. but more — is the best of america. but more than anything else, let us choose — more than anything else, let us choose freedom. why? because that's— choose freedom. why? because that's the — choose freedom. why? because that's the best of america. we are all— that's the best of america. we are all americans, and together, let's all choose kamala _ together, let's all choose kamala harris. thank you, chicago _ oprah winfrey delivering a rousing speech. the entire crowd isjust rousing speech. the entire crowd is just absolutely electrified, as you probably heard there. we have been listening into the speech together with former virginia governor terry mcculloch. good to have you with us and i should say you are also the co—chairman of bill clinton's 1996 free election campaign and

chairman of hillary clinton's 2008 campaign and you told us you are down with bill clinton earlier. what did you think of his remarks? it earlier. what did you think of his remarks?— earlier. what did you think of his remarks? ., , ., s, ., his remarks? it was good and he and i his remarks? it was good and he and i went _ his remarks? it was good and he and i went through _ his remarks? it was good and he and i went through the - his remarks? it was good and he and i went through the speech . and i went through the speech before he came up. interesting, the teleprompter guy had a tough time because the president likes to do his thing, so double for his remarks, but he is the explainer in chief and this is his 13th one, a little emotional because it was 28 years ago that he accepted the renomination on that stage here in chicago. and as president, two years of budget surpluses, historic presidency. iie two years of budget surpluses, historic presidency.— historic presidency. he talked a lot about — historic presidency. he talked a lot about his _ historic presidency. he talked a lot about his economic i a lot about his economic record. i understand you are doing work with the harris—walz campaign. tell us what you think so far in this convention that the message has been or needs to be from tim walz tonight on stage.—

needs to be from tim walz tonight on stage. first of all i understand _ tonight on stage. first of all i understand we _ tonight on stage. first of all i understand we are - tonight on stage. first of all i understand we are coming | tonight on stage. first of all. i understand we are coming in the convention in a unique position. normally it takes a day or two of conventions for people to come together and we have had the primary on the warring factions, but none of that. she's raised over $500 million in 27 days. no is done that in the history of american politics. 500,000 people have signed up to knock on doors. never been done before. so the messages, kamala harris and tim walz is a ticket to protect reproductive freedoms for women, protect democracy and grow the economy. we are not staying where we are, lived everyone up, against trump, a convicted felon who has an extreme agenda, project 2025 and that's not where americans want to be. this will be an historic election.— historic election. it's not where some _ historic election. it's not where some elections i historic election. it's not i where some elections want to historic election. it's not - where some elections want to be as half the country still support the former president and his running mate, and they have accused kamala harris and tim walz are promoting a far

left radical agenda, so how do kamala harris and tim walz need to need to reply to this attack from donald trump and jd vance? there nothing donald trump has ever said that is the truth and i've known the man for 30 years and fact check thousands of incorrect statements as president, so we won't respond to donald trump. who cares crush marquees a convicted felon. we are running to appeal to americans to lift them up and this will be a very close election. 2000, won the election. 2000, won the election nearly but didn't get it, 2016 and hillary clinton got millions more votes but we didn't get it. michigan and wisconsin and pennsylvania, in those three states, probably a million people are undecided and that's it. so we've got to get those million people in those three states and we have to work in arizona and nevada and georgia and now north carolina. if you look at the

map today, we are up in the swing states. bright but we've got to work hard. we are not taking anything for granted but we are coming out of this convention in the best shape we've ever been in and we saw president clinton tonight, president clinton tonight, president obama and president biden and oprah. did donald trump have dick cheney or his vice president or president bush? ., ., vice president or president bush? . s, .h vice president or president bush? ., ., .,, ., bush? none of them. there was a lot of euphoria _ bush? none of them. there was a lot of euphoria and _ bush? none of them. there was a lot of euphoria and joy _ bush? none of them. there was a lot of euphoria and joy at - bush? none of them. there was a lot of euphoria and joy at the i lot of euphoria and joy at the convention and people were ecstatic about their nominee, donald trump and his running mate, jd vance and virginia is a state that might mirror some of the challenges the harris waltz campaign might face as it's a place where you have these blue pockets, cities where you have more progressive voters who will vote democrat and more rural areas where you see republican voters, so do you think it will be a challenge in the battleground states like in pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin for

kamala harris and tim walz. not the urban areas where they tend to vote democrat. you the urban areas where they tend to vote democrat.— to vote democrat. you have to reach out — to vote democrat. you have to reach out to — to vote democrat. you have to reach out to everyone. - to vote democrat. you have to j reach out to everyone. virginia won't be in play. i chair the campaign for the president and he had no staff in virginia and we have a lot of federal workers averaging is the most set of workers in the country and they don't like donald trump and people losing their pay, so put virginia aside but you've got it right, you have to go out and get every vote, urban, suburban, rural but it isa urban, suburban, rural but it is a message that works. joe biden kamala harris created 16 millionjobs and biden kamala harris created 16 million jobs and inflation biden kamala harris created 16 millionjobs and inflation is under 3% and we have an infrastructure bill and a $60 billion chip bill. thing is the americans have always wanted, they got in the last three and a half years. irate they got in the last three and a half years-— they got in the last three and a half years. we have to leave the conversation _ a half years. we have to leave the conversation for _ a half years. we have to leave the conversation for now- a half years. we have to leave the conversation for now but l a half years. we have to leave. the conversation for now but to you and so many thanks for joining us on bbc news. love the bbc- _ joining us on bbc news. love the bbc- we _ joining us on bbc news. love the bbc. we love _ joining us on bbc news. love the bbc. we love to - joining us on bbc news. love the bbc. we love to hear- joining us on bbc news. love. the bbc. we love to hear that. let's go to katrina parry on

the convention floor and we lost you because oprah winfrey came out, but give us an idea of what you have been seeing and hearing on the floor? the crowd is in — and hearing on the floor? iie: crowd is in incredibly and hearing on the floor? tie: crowd is in incredibly fired and hearing on the floor? ti9: crowd is in incredibly fired up mood on the floor and you can hear the governor of maryland on the stage at the moment and he is a governor in his mid—aos, and first term incredibly popular and seen as the next generation of the party so interesting he has been given such a top billing and is part of the build—up to governor tim walz who we will hear from governor tim walz who we will hearfrom in governor tim walz who we will hear from in the governor tim walz who we will hearfrom in the next governor tim walz who we will hear from in the next short while. oprah winfrey speaking, very much book ending a segment on freedom, and that theme of the night is around freedom for our future the night is around freedom for ourfuture and we the night is around freedom for our future and we had the night is around freedom for ourfuture and we had a poem from america's youngest inaugural poet, amanda gorman, who will be remembered from the biden inauguration where she

delivered a poem i wrote something especially for the convention which she delivered and then oprah winfrey coming out and speaking to that theme of freedom and rights and quoted the late congressman john lewis. it doesn't matter what shape our ancestors arrived on, we are on the same boat and she spoke about reproductive rights in all of those things are very much a key part of the platform of the democratic party in the election, notjust the election, not just the presidential level election, notjust the presidential level but up and down the ticket as well, so very much excitement building and speaking to a few of the delegates and standing aside the massachusetts delegation, when i asked them what they thought of oprah winfrey, a few were speechless and the general consensus was that she had just been amazing and that has been the theme of the night from those gathered and still plenty

more to come.— those gathered and still plenty more to come. katrina, so much ener: more to come. katrina, so much energy here _ more to come. katrina, so much energy here in — more to come. katrina, so much energy here in this _ more to come. katrina, so much energy here in this arena - energy here in this arena around oprah winfrey speaking earlier and right now on the stage you have the marilyn government in our little studio here, rodney and stephanie, pretty important to note that oprah winfrey can still really get a crowd are gallery in chicago. what did you think of her speech? aha, chicago. what did you think of her speech?— her speech? a really great seech her speech? a really great speech that _ her speech? a really great speech that lifted - her speech? a really great speech that lifted the i her speech? a really great i speech that lifted the energy level back to where we had seen it in the last couple of days and it's really great and i thought the most important moment, or one of them in her speech was when she called out the independent voters and swing voters, the undecided and

said, vote your values. and i think that reinforces that this campaign has been trying to put out there to show america what their values are. and oprah winfrey has incredible power because she was so empathetic as the host of that show, part of so many peoples lives and she makes people feel as if they really matter and i think thatis they really matter and i think that is critically important. thank you. thank you. good evening _ thank you. thank you. good evening democrats. thank you

chicago — evening democrats. thank you chicago. here is a sentence i never— chicago. here is a sentence i never thought i would hear myself _ never thought i would hear myself saying. you might recognise me from fox news. i believe — recognise me from fox news. i believe in — recognise me from fox news. i believe in going anywhere. in the service of a good cause and friends, — the service of a good cause and friends, we _ the service of a good cause and friends, we gather in a very good — friends, we gather in a very good cause, electing kamala harris — good cause, electing kamala harris and tim walz the next president and vice president of the united states. applause the choice could not be clearer~ _ the choice could not be clearer. donald trump rants about — clearer. donald trump rants about law and order. as if he wasn't — about law and order. as if he wasn't a _ about law and order. as if he wasn't a convicted criminal running _ wasn't a convicted criminal running against a prosecutor. as if— running against a prosecutor. as if we — running against a prosecutor. as if we were going to forget that— as if we were going to forget that crime was higher on his watch — that crime was higher on his watch he _ that crime was higher on his watch. he talks about the

forgotten man, hoping we will forget — forgotten man, hoping we will forget that the only economic promise — forget that the only economic promise he actually kept was to cut taxes — promise he actually kept was to cut taxes for the rich. and don't _ cut taxes for the rich. and don't even get me started on his new— don't even get me started on his new running mate. at least mike _ his new running mate. at least mike pence was polite. jd vance is one _ mike pence was polite. jd vance is one of— mike pence was polite. jd vance is one of those guys who thinks if you _ is one of those guys who thinks if you don't live the life he has — if you don't live the life he has in _ if you don't live the life he has in mind for you, you don't count — has in mind for you, you don't count. someone who said that if you don't— count. someone who said that if you don't have kids, you have, guote, — you don't have kids, you have, quote, no _ you don't have kids, you have, quote, no physical commitment to the _ quote, no physical commitment to the future of this country. you — to the future of this country. you know. _ to the future of this country. you know, senator, when i deployed _ you know, senator, when i deployed to afghanistan i didn't— deployed to afghanistan i didn't have kids then. many of the men — didn't have kids then. many of the men and women who went outside — the men and women who went outside the wire with me didn't have _ outside the wire with me didn't have kids — outside the wire with me didn't have kids either. let me tell

you. — have kids either. let me tell you. our— have kids either. let me tell you, our commitment to the future — you, our commitment to the future of— you, our commitment to the future of this country was pretty _ future of this country was pretty damn physical. applause choosing a guy like jd vance to be america's next vice president sends a message, and the message is that they are doubling down on negativity and grievance. committing to a concept _ grievance. committing to a concept of campaigning best summed up in one word. darkness. darkness is what they are selling. the thing is, i just— are selling. the thing is, i just don't— are selling. the thing is, i just don't believe that america today— just don't believe that america today is— just don't believe that america today is in the market for darkness. applause i believe america is ready for a better— i believe america is ready for a better kind of politics. yes, politics — a better kind of politics. yes, politics at _ a better kind of politics. yes, politics at its worst can be ugly _ politics at its worst can be ugly, crushing, demeaning, but it doesn't— ugly, crushing, demeaning, but it doesn't have to be. at its

best. — it doesn't have to be. at its best, politics can be empowering, uplifting and even a kind _ empowering, uplifting and even a kind of— empowering, uplifting and even a kind of soul craft. my faith teaches _ a kind of soul craft. my faith teaches me that the world is not made up of good people and bad people, but rather that each — bad people, but rather that each of— bad people, but rather that each of us is capable of good and — each of us is capable of good and bad _ each of us is capable of good and bad things. and i believe leaders — and bad things. and i believe leaders matter because they bring — leaders matter because they bring out in what we can in each — bring out in what we can in each of— bring out in what we can in each of us, the good or bad. right — each of us, the good or bad. right now— each of us, the good or bad. right now the other side is appealing to what is smallest within— appealing to what is smallest within you. they are telling you — within you. they are telling you that _ within you. they are telling you that greatness comes from going _ you that greatness comes from going back to the past, they are telling you that anyone from — are telling you that anyone from you is a threat. they are telling — from you is a threat. they are telling you _ from you is a threat. they are telling you that your neighbour or nephew or daughter who disagrees with you politically isn't — disagrees with you politically isn'tjust wrong, but is now the — isn'tjust wrong, but is now the enemy. i believe in a better— the enemy. i believe in a better politics. one that finds us at — better politics. one that finds us at our— better politics. one that finds us at our most decent and open and brave. _

us at our most decent and open and brave, the kind of politics that— and brave, the kind of politics that kamala harris and tim walz are offering, and as you have felt these _ are offering, and as you have felt these many days, that kind of politics also just feels better _ of politics also just feels better to be part of. applause there isjoy in it, as well as power~ _ there isjoy in it, as well as power. and if all of that sounds _ power. and if all of that sounds naive, let me insist that— sounds naive, let me insist that i— sounds naive, let me insist that i have come to this view not by— that i have come to this view not by way of idealism, but by way of— not by way of idealism, but by way of experience. not just the experience of my unlikely career~ _ experience of my unlikely career. someone like me serving in india. — career. someone like me serving in india, serving in washington, serving in uniform. i'm thinking of something much more _ i'm thinking of something much more basic. i'm thinking of dinnertime at our house in michigan. when the dog is barking _ michigan. when the dog is barking and the air fire is keeping— barking and the air fire is keeping and the mac and cheese is boiling — keeping and the mac and cheese is boiling over and it feels like — is boiling over and it feels

like all— is boiling over and it feels like all the political negotiating experience in the world — negotiating experience in the world is— negotiating experience in the world is not enough for me to -et world is not enough for me to get our— world is not enough for me to get our three—year—old son and are three—year—old daughter to 'ust are three—year—old daughter to just wash — are three—year—old daughter to just wash their hands and sit at the — just wash their hands and sit at the table. it's the part of our— at the table. it's the part of our day— at the table. it's the part of our day when politics seems most — our day when politics seems most distant. and yet, the make-up _ most distant. and yet, the make—up of our kitchen table, the existence of my family is 'ust the existence of my family is just one _ the existence of my family is just one example of something that was— just one example of something that was literally impossible as recently as 25 years ago, when — as recently as 25 years ago, when an— as recently as 25 years ago, when an anxious teenager growing _ when an anxious teenager growing up in indiana wondered if he _ growing up in indiana wondered if he would ever find belonging in this— if he would ever find belonging in this world. this kind of life went from impossible to possible, from possibl — impossible to possible, from possibl to real, from real to almost _ possibl to real, from real to almost ordinary, in less than half— almost ordinary, in less than half a — almost ordinary, in less than half a lifetime. but that

didn't— half a lifetime. but that didn'tjust