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�* well rolling �*well rolling the pitch it's all very well rolling the pitch for some difficult decisions but those decisions have to be explained, scrutinised and at least some of them will definitely face a bit of opposition. and in that sense this is the moment when it starts to get really real for the government. they come back after the summer break when parliament returns next week and that's when the real pressure will start to hit home and i will be interested to see how labour mps react on that issue of the winter fuel payment. privately we know some are really unhappy. publicly some have started to say it will stop i'm wondering could there be more over the next couple of weeks. i wonder how much those decisions will be laid at the door of the previous administration and the 1a years of conservative rule. that previous administration and the 14 years of conservative rule.- years of conservative rule. that is the message _ years of conservative rule. that is the message that _ years of conservative rule. that is the message that will _ years of conservative rule. that is the message that will be - years of conservative rule. that is i the message that will be hammered years of conservative rule. that is - the message that will be hammered by this new government. the borrowing from the george osborne —— they are
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borrowing from the george osborne and david cameron playbook. you say that things are so terrible that we will have to make really difficult decisions. don't blame me, blame the last lot. we are trying to fix the mess. they have evidence to suggest that argument isn't completely fabricated. however, icannot emphasise enough that making decisions is difficult. and the government will have to choose to do certain things. and when it makes those decisions, it will face the consequences of its actions. and in that sense, yes, you can blame the last administration. yes, you can say that there is not as much money as we hoped or thought or could have been available if the economy had been available if the economy had been managed in a different way. but you still have to take responsibility for the decisions that you are taking. so in that sense, there is no doubt this government is going to feel a lot of pressure over the next few weeks, particularly leading up to the budget at the end of october. because it is going to have to explain why it is choosing to do one
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thing, for example, cut winter fuel payments for a lot of pensioners, and not another. for example, cutting other benefits or perhaps cutting other benefits or perhaps cutting parts of the state or cutting parts of the state or cutting back on public spending. likewise, there is a question for the government about why it is prepared to spend taxpayers' money on pay rises which are above the current rate of inflation. it would say, we are just following the recommendations from the public sector review, pay review bodies. but it is still a choice, it is still a choice this government is making. yes, look, there is no doubt that the economic picture is challenging. the growth has not been what some had hoped. in that sense, what some had hoped. in that sense, what ministers can do is constrained. even within those constraints, there is room to make different decisions and to prioritise different things. that is the big question the prime minister and the chance of face. why are you making the decisions you choose to make? figs making the decisions you choose to make? �* , , ., making the decisions you choose to make? ~ , , ., ., making the decisions you choose to make? ~ , ,, ., ., , make? as you ended that answer, i can see on —
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make? as you ended that answer, i can see on one _ make? as you ended that answer, i can see on one of— make? as you ended that answer, i can see on one of my _ make? as you ended that answer, i can see on one of my screens - make? as you ended that answer, i can see on one of my screens the l can see on one of my screens the prime minister sir keir starmer walking across the rose garden. he is now at the lectern and we will listen in to what he has to say. good morning. and welcome. sunshine, no rain, no wind. probably tempting fate. but it is really good to see you all here and to see familiar faces in this garden, so thank you so much for coming along this morning. when i stood on the steps of downing streetjust over there two months ago, i promised that this government would serve people like you. apprentices, teachers, nurses, small owners, firefighters. those serving our community and our country every day. —— small—business owners. i promised we would get a grip on the problem is that we face and that we would be judged by our
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actions, not by our words. i said before the election and i say again really clearly today, growth and frankly, by that, i do mean wealth creation, is the number one priority of this labour government. and that's why in the first few weeks, we have set up the national wealth fund, because we want every person and every community to benefit. it is why we have unlocked planning decisions, because we are going to build 1.5 million new homes. it is why we set up great british energy, to create good jobs and cut people's bills. and it is why we ended the national strikes that have crippled our country for years. because i defy anyone to tell me that you can grow the economy when people cannot get to work because the transport
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system is broken can't return to work because they are stuck on an nhs waiting list. —— or can't return. we have done more in seven weeks in the last government did in seven years. and these are just the first steps towards the change that people voted for, the change that i am determined to deliver. but before the election, i also gave a warning. i said, change would not happen overnight. when there is a deep rot at the heart of the structure, you can't just cover at the heart of the structure, you can'tjust cover it up. you cannot just tinker or rely on quick fixes. you have to overhaul the entire thing. tackle it at route. even if it is hard work and takes more time. because otherwise, what happens? the rot returns. in all the same places.
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and it spreads worse than before. you know that. i know that. and that's why this project has also been about fixing the foundations of our country. but i have to be honest with you. things are worse than we ever imagined. in the first few weeks, we discovered £22 billion black hole in the public finances. and before anyone says, oh, this is just performative or playing politics, let's remember the obr did not know about it. they wrote a letter setting that out. and they didn't know because the last government hid it. and even last wednesday, just last wednesday, we found out that thanks to the last government's recklessness, we borrowed almost £5 billion more than
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the obr expected in the last three months alone. that is not performative, that is fact. but as well as the things that we discovered, we have also seen shocking scenes across the nation. and a mindless minority of thugs who thought that they could get away with causing chaos. smashing up communities and terrifying minorities. vandalising and destroying people's property. even trying to set fire to a building with human beings inside it. and as if that wasn't despicable enough, people displaying swastika tattoos, chanting racist slurs on our streets, and nazi salutes at the cenotaph. the cenotaph, the very place where we honour those who gave their lives for this country. desecrating their memory, under the
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pretence, and it is a pretence, of legitimate protest. now they are learning that crime has consequences stop that i won't tolerate a breakdown in law and order under any circumstances —— and that. i won't listen to those who exploit grieving families and disrespect local communities. but these riots didn't happen in a vacuum. they exposed the state of our country, revealed a deeply unhealthy society, the cracks in our foundations laid deeply unhealthy society, the cracks in ourfoundations laid bare. weakened by a decade of division and decline. infected by a spiral of populism which fed off cycles of failure of the last government. every time they faced a difficult problem, they failed to be honest. they offered the snake oil of populism. which led to more failure,
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round and round and round. stuck in the rot of the politics of performance. now, isaw the rot of the politics of performance. now, i saw the beginning of that downward spiral first hand back in 2011. when riots ripped through london and across the country. i was then director of public prosecutions. and when i think back to that time, i see just how far we have fallen. because responding to those riots was hard. of course it was. but dealing with the riots this summer was much harder. back in 2011, i didn't doubt that the courts could do what they needed to do. this time, to be honest with you, i genuinely didn't know. let me tell you this, every
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day of that disorder, literally every day, we had to check the precise number of prison places and where those places were to make sure that we could arrest, charge and prosecute people quickly. not having enough prison places is about as fundamental a failure as you can get. and those people throwing rocks, torching cars, making threats, they didn'tjust know the system was broken, they were betting on it. gaming it. they thought, oh, they will never arrest me. and if they will never arrest me. and if they do, i won't be prosecuted. and if i am, i won't get much of a sentence. they saw the cracks in our society after 14 years of failure, and exploited them. that is what we have inherited. notjust an economic
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black hole, a societal black hole. and that's why we have to take action and do things differently. and part of that is being honest with people about the choices that we face. how tough this will be. and frankly, things will get worse before they get better. i didn't want to release prisoners early. i was chief prosecutor for five years. it goes against the grain of everything i have ever done. but to be blunt, if we hadn't taken that difficult decision immediately, we wouldn't have been able to respond to the riots as we did. and if we don't take tough action across the board, we won't be able to fix the foundations of the country as we need. i didn't want to means—test the winter fuel payments. but it was
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a choice that we had to make. a choice to protect the most vulnerable pensioners, while doing what is necessary to repair the public finances. because pensioners also rely on a functioning nhs. good public transport, strong national infrastructure. they want their children to be able to buy homes, they want their grandchildren to get a good education. so we have made that difficult decision to amend the public finances so everyone benefits in the long—term. including pensioners —— to mend. now, that is a difficult trade—off. and there will be more to come. i won't shy away from making unpopular decisions now if it is the right thing for the country in the long—term. that is
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what a government of service means. shouldn't be a country where people fear walking down the street. the tv showing cars and buildings being set on fire. this shouldn't be a country where the prime minister cannot guarantee prison places. this shouldn't be a country where people are paying thousands more on their mortgages or waiting months for hospital appointments they desperately need. where our waters are filled with sewage. where parents worry their kids won't get the opportunities that they did. when nothing seems to work any more. so when i talk about the inheritance the last government left us, the £22 billion black hole in ourfinances, thatis billion black hole in ourfinances, that is not about a line on a graph. that is about people's lives, your lives. and the tories are still not
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being honest. they know their recklessness cost them the election, but they won't accept the cost that they have inflicted on the country. and they won't apologise for what they have cost you. they are just still thinking about themselves. now, this government won't always be perfect. but i promise you this. you will be at the heart of it. in the forefront of our minds, at the centre of everything that we do. and that's why i wanted to invite you here today, to show that decent hard—working people, who make up the backbone of this country, belong here. this is a government for you. a garden and a building that were once used for lockdown parties. remember the picture isjust over
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there of the wine and the food? well, this garden and this building are now back in your service. it is notjust are now back in your service. it is not just that the last government relied on easy gimmicks and bad ideas come of those things happened precisely because the government itself lost its focus on the hopes and ambitions of working people —— bad ideas, those things happened. during those recent riots, i made a huge ask of the police and of the criminaljustice huge ask of the police and of the criminal justice system. huge ask of the police and of the criminaljustice system. people already stretched to the limit. they knew i was making big asks of them. and i am not going to apologise for it. but let me tell you this. they delivered. they deserve our gratitude. and that's why i went to southport, to lambeth, to belfast,
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to thank them personally. to shake the hands of the first responders who rose up to the ask i was making of them. they deserve a government that trusts them, supports them and works with them. that is the sort of government that we will be. one that works with people, not does things to them, one that believes in hard graft, not gimmicks. honest about the challenges we face is working tirelessly to fix them. and that is how we will always work —— and working tirelessly. next week, parliament returns. the business of politics will resume. but it won't be business as usual because we cannot go on like this any more. things will have to be done differently. we will do the hard work to root out 14 years of rot,
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reverse a decade of decline and fix the foundations. between now and christmas, we will carry on as we have started, action not words. we will introduce legislation and take decisions to protect taxpayers' money, to take on the blockers by accelerating planning, to build homes and boost growth. we will harness the full potential this autumn of ai for growth and for the public good. we will bring rail services into public ownership, putting the passengers first. the biggest levelling up of workers' rights in a generation to give people security, dignity and respect at work. and great british energy will be owned by the taxpayer, making money for the taxpayer. producing clean energy and creating good jobs. that is our focus for the rest of the year. but i will be
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honest with you, there is a budget coming in october and it is going to be painful. we have no other choice, given the situation that we are in. those with the broadest shoulders should bear the heavy burden. that's why we are cracking down on non—dom is. those who made the mess should have to do their bit to clean it up —— non—doms. we are strengthening the powers of the water regulator and backing tough fines on the water companies that have let sewage floods our rivers, lakes and seas. butjust floods our rivers, lakes and seas. but just as when floods our rivers, lakes and seas. butjust as when i responded to the riots, i will have to turn to the contrary and make big asks of you as well. to accept short—term pain for long—term good. the difficult trade—off for the genuine solution. and i know that after all that you
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have been through, it is a really big task and really difficult to hear. that is not the position we should be in —— big ask. it is not the position i want to be in. but we have to end the politics of the easy answer that solves nothing. but i also know that we can get through this together. because the riots didn'tjust betray this together. because the riots didn't just betray the this together. because the riots didn'tjust betray the sickness, they also revealed a cure. found not in the cynical conflict of populism, but in the coming together of a country. the people who got together the morning after all around the country with their brooms, shovels and trials and cleaned up their community. they reminded us who we really are. i felt real pride in those people who cleaned up our
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streets, who built the walls, repaired the damage. and i couldn't help thinking about the obvious parallels. because imagine the pride we will feel as a nation when after the hard work of clearing up the mess that has been done, we have a country that we have built together, built to last. that belongs to every single one of us, and all of us have a stake in it. our hard work rewarded a dozen times over. because we will have an economy that works for everyone. an nhs notjust back on its feet, but fit for the future. streets that everyone feel safe in. no longer dependent on foreign dictators because we are producing our own clean energy right here. and giving every child, wherever they come from, whatever their background, the chance to go as far
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as their talents will take them. i won't lose sight of that prize. i won't lose sight of that prize. i won't lose sight of that prize. i won't lose sight of what we were elected to do. and most importantly, i won't lose sight of the people that we were elected to do it for. you. this is our country. let's fix it together. thank you very much. applause thank you. applause thank ou. ., ., ., ., , thank you. now i have got a number of questions — thank you. now i have got a number of questions from _ thank you. now i have got a number of questions from the _ thank you. now i have got a number of questions from the media - thank you. now i have got a number of questions from the media and - thank you. now i have got a number of questions from the media and i i of questions from the media and i will start if i may with vicki young from bbc news.— will start if i may with vicki young from bbc news. vicki young come in bbc news. prime _ from bbc news. vicki young come in bbc news. prime minister, - from bbc news. vicki young come in bbc news. prime minister, you - from bbc news. vicki young come in bbc news. prime minister, you say l bbc news. prime minister, you say you want_ bbc news. prime minister, you say you want to — bbc news. prime minister, you say you want to be open with people, but some _ you want to be open with people, but some will_ you want to be open with people, but some will think you are not honest during _ some will think you are not honest during the — some will think you are not honest during the election campaign about changes— during the election campaign about changes to winter fuel allowance for example _ changes to winter fuel allowance for example and many now want to know
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what the _ example and many now want to know what the impact of the budget will be. what the impact of the budget will be so— what the impact of the budget will be so if— what the impact of the budget will be. so if you are being honest, can you tell— be. so if you are being honest, can you tell them know what kind of tax rises you _ you tell them know what kind of tax rises you are considering? two you tell them know what kind of tax rises you are considering?— rises you are considering? two or three things _ rises you are considering? two or three things to _ rises you are considering? two or three things to say _ rises you are considering? two or three things to say about - rises you are considering? two or three things to say about that. rises you are considering? two or three things to say about that in i three things to say about that in the first place. we were being honest about the situation before the election. we set out very clearly what we would be doing with tax rises. i made it clear on numerous occasions national insurance, vat and tax would not go up, the triple—lock for working people, income tax. and that remains the position. i also set out that our plans were fully funded and fully costed. what i did not expect was £22 billion black hole. and i know the tories say that is performative. if it is performative, why didn't the obr know about it? look at that figure 5 billion last week in three months. if that is performative, why didn't the obr know about it? these are basic
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questions about what we have inherited. as ijust said, i didn't want to have to deal with the winter fuel for pensioners. but we have to fix the nhs. —— winter fuel payments. we have to fix the n excess, our schools and homes and pensioners rely on them the same way as everybody else. i am not going to pre—empt the budget, but i am absolutely not going to accept that the inheritance that we have is anything other than diet. the £22 billion black hole. and to add to that what i said about the prisons because i feel very strongly about this. taft gauge every day of those disorders, when people are trying to burn down hotels and i am looking at lists of where we have got prisons because for the mess we were left, thatis because for the mess we were left, that is disgraceful —— to have to gauge. no prime minister should be in that position when dealing with disorder. that is what we inherited and that is what we will fix. thank you. and that is what we will fix. thank ou. �* ., , and that is what we will fix. thank ou. ., , ,
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and that is what we will fix. thank you-— prime - you. anoushka, please. prime minister, _ you. anoushka, please. prime minister. you _ you. anoushka, please. prime minister, you talk— you. anoushka, please. prime minister, you talk about - you. anoushka, please. prime. minister, you talk about choices you. anoushka, please. prime- minister, you talk about choices and there _ minister, you talk about choices and there are _ minister, you talk about choices and there are plenty— minister, you talk about choices and there are plenty of _ minister, you talk about choices and there are plenty of things _ minister, you talk about choices and there are plenty of things you - minister, you talk about choices and there are plenty of things you have. there are plenty of things you have chosen _ there are plenty of things you have chosen to — there are plenty of things you have chosen to spend _ there are plenty of things you have chosen to spend money— there are plenty of things you have chosen to spend money on. - there are plenty of things you have chosen to spend money on. you i there are plenty of things you have . chosen to spend money on. you have chosen _ chosen to spend money on. you have chosen to _ chosen to spend money on. you have chosen to give — chosen to spend money on. you have chosen to give bumper _ chosen to spend money on. you have chosen to give bumper pay _ chosen to spend money on. you have chosen to give bumper pay raises - chosen to spend money on. you have chosen to give bumper pay raises to. chosen to give bumper pay raises to doctors _ chosen to give bumper pay raises to doctors higher— chosen to give bumper pay raises to doctors higher than— chosen to give bumper pay raises to doctors higher than for— chosen to give bumper pay raises to doctors higher than for nurses - chosen to give bumper pay raises to doctors higher than for nurses and i doctors higher than for nurses and teachers. — doctors higher than for nurses and teachers. and _ doctors higher than for nurses and teachers, and you _ doctors higher than for nurses and teachers, and you have _ doctors higher than for nurses and teachers, and you have chosen- doctors higher than for nurses and teachers, and you have chosen toi teachers, and you have chosen to take these — teachers, and you have chosen to take these benefits _ teachers, and you have chosen to take these benefits off— teachers, and you have chosen to. take these benefits off pensioners. ale take these benefits off pensioners. age uk_ take these benefits off pensioners. age uk say— take these benefits off pensioners. age uk say 2— take these benefits off pensioners. age uk say 2 million— take these benefits off pensioners. age uk say 2 million will— take these benefits off pensioners. age uk say 2 million will be - take these benefits off pensioners. | age uk say 2 million will be pushed into hardship— age uk say 2 million will be pushed into hardship as _ age uk say 2 million will be pushed into hardship as a _ age uk say 2 million will be pushed into hardship as a result. _ age uk say 2 million will be pushed into hardship as a result. so - age uk say 2 million will be pushed into hardship as a result. so what l into hardship as a result. so what you say— into hardship as a result. so what you say to — into hardship as a result. so what you say to those _ into hardship as a result. so what you say to those pensioners - into hardship as a result. so what you say to those pensioners who i into hardship as a result. so what i you say to those pensioners who are not well _ you say to those pensioners who are not well off, — you say to those pensioners who are not well off, you _ you say to those pensioners who are not well off, you feel— you say to those pensioners who are not well off, you feel you _ you say to those pensioners who are not well off, you feel you are - not well off, you feel you are choosing _ not well off, you feel you are choosing to _ not well off, you feel you are choosing to balance - not well off, you feel you are choosing to balance the i not well off, you feel you arel choosing to balance the books not well off, you feel you are i choosing to balance the books on their— choosing to balance the books on their backs? 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cannot grow the economy if you have no basic transport system that is working. you cannot grow the economy if people can't get back to work because they cannot get the operations they need, and we've got to get the economy going. that's why we make the decisions that we have made. and on the pay review bodies more broadly, it doesn't cover all of the disputes that we have had to deal with. what we know is the last government didn't set a framework for that when they started down the road of the pay review, and they put at least one of them in the cupboard of the buildings over the road and ran away from it. we can't carry on like that, we have to make difficult choices. emily from channel 4. choices. emily from channello. prime minister, choices. emily from channel4. prime minister. on — choices. emily from channel4. prime minister, on prisons, _ choices. emily from channel4. prime minister, on prisons, what _ choices. emily from channel 4. prime minister, on prisons, what guarantee can you _ minister, on prisons, what guarantee can you give — minister, on prisons, what guarantee can you give to the public that no prisoner— can you give to the public that no prisoner who is let out early will io prisoner who is let out early will go on _ prisoner who is let out early will go on to— prisoner who is let out early will go on to harm anyone, or is the truth _ go on to harm anyone, or is the truth that— go on to harm anyone, or is the truth that you can't guarantee that
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and that— truth that you can't guarantee that and that the early release scheme carries— and that the early release scheme carries with it an undeniable risk? look, _ carries with it an undeniable risk? look, the — carries with it an undeniable risk? look, the first thing is obviously, we have put in place a framework to ensure that we don't release those who create the greatest risk, that is a basic safeguard that we have had to put in. and i am not pretending for one minute this is a decision i want to make. i spent five years prosecuting people and putting them in prison. the idea of releasing people who should be in prison because the prisons are too full and we don't have the places goes against everything i have worked for four years, but we have to face facts. they haven't built the prisons, the last government. they have pretended you could have longer and longer sentences and send more people to prison. at the same time you could veto or choose not to have a prison built near you. they were false choices and here we are without the prison places that we need. so what are the options available to an incoming government? let the prisons get so overcrowded
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that we cannot arrest people and put them before the courts? would that have worked in the disorder? i don't think so. i was really clear in my mind that one of the main ways in which we will have to deal with the disorder was making sure those who were throwing rocks, setting fire to buildings on a saturday or sunday was facing the full face of the law within days. i had to create the conditions for that because the alternative, you would put a question to me saying, how come all these people didn't even get arrested and have not been put before the courts and cannot be sentenced because we have no places? this is not a decision that i wanted to take it is not a decision any prime minister would want to take. and i cannot tell you how shocked i was when i discovered the full extent of what they had done with our prisons and it will take time to fix it. i cannot build a prison by saturday. we will fix it, we already taken the measures necessary to make sure we can get through the disorder. but i should not sit in the cobras room with a list of prison places across the country on
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a day by day basis working out how we deal with disorder —— cobra room. that is the position i was put in and it is frankly not good enough. thank you, emily.— and it is frankly not good enough. thank you, emily. beth. thank you, prime minister. _ thank you, emily. beth. thank you, prime minister. sky _ thank you, emily. beth. thank you, prime minister. sky news. - thank you, emily. beth. thank you, prime minister. sky news. prime i prime minister. sky news. prime minister. — prime minister. sky news. prime minister. you _ prime minister. sky news. prime minister. you say— prime minister. sky news. prime minister, you say you _ prime minister. sky news. prime minister, you say you want i prime minister. sky news. prime minister, you say you want to i prime minister. sky news. prime i minister, you say you want to build trust _ minister, you say you want to build trust and _ minister, you say you want to build trust and he — minister, you say you want to build trust and be honest _ minister, you say you want to build trust and be honest with _ minister, you say you want to build trust and be honest with people, i minister, you say you want to build l trust and be honest with people, you have got— trust and be honest with people, you have got off— trust and be honest with people, you have got off to — trust and be honest with people, you have got off to a _ trust and be honest with people, you have got off to a bad _ trust and be honest with people, you have got off to a bad start _ trust and be honest with people, you have got off to a bad start with i have got off to a bad start with pensioners— have got off to a bad start with pensioners who _ have got off to a bad start with pensioners who voted - 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looking when you talk about the broadest shoulders, are you - looking when you talk about the - broadest shoulders, are you looking at taxes _ broadest shoulders, are you looking at taxes on — broadest shoulders, are you looking at taxes on working _ broadest shoulders, are you looking at taxes on working people - broadest shoulders, are you looking at taxes on working people or- broadest shoulders, are you looking at taxes on working people or are l at taxes on working people or are you now— at taxes on working people or are you now looking _ at taxes on working people or are you now looking at _ at taxes on working people or are you now looking at a _ at taxes on working people or are you now looking at a range - at taxes on working people or are you now looking at a range of - at taxes on working people or are i you now looking at a range of wealth taxes _ you now looking at a range of wealth taxes on _ you now looking at a range of wealth taxes on shareholders, _ you now looking at a range of wealthi taxes on shareholders, homeowners, bil taxes on shareholders, homeowners, big business? — taxes on shareholders, homeowners, big business?— big business? thank you. as i said in a campaign _ big business? thank you. as i said
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in a campaign committee - big business? thank you. as i said in a campaign committee in - big business? thank you. as i said l in a campaign committee in relation to working people, income tax, vat, national insurance, we will not increase tax —— in our campaign, in relation. i was clear before the election and i am clear again after the election. obviously, the budget is in a number of weeks and the detail will be set out there. but i say again what i said before the election. we have to get away from this idea that the only levers that can be pulled on more taxes or more spending. our number one mission is to grow the economy to make sure that we are creating the money in the first place, that remains the number one mission. nothing knocks that mission and that's why we have a transport system that works, its important we have an nh is capable of getting through the backlog and we have the national wealth fund, great british energy, not planning so we can get on. all of those decisions have been taken in the first seven weeks to make sure we get the economy where we need it. but we are going to have to have to take tough decisions. i did not
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caterfor £22 billion black hole. and that is because it was not on the obr's books. as you are, we were looking at the available material. but it was not there, the obr didn't know about it, that's why they are conducting a review to find out why they didn't know about it. the £22 billion black hole on top of what we knew to be the situation is a problem that i am notjust going to pretend is not there or that we can easily fix. we are going to have to fix it and fix it quickly because i genuinely do not think that the politics where we simply pretend things can be done that cannot be done is working and we will do it straightaway. that's why i talk about getting the rot out now. because if we don't do it on paper over it, we know what will happen and it is like a downpour and anybody who has decorated house knows how it works. ten it is not there paper over it and in ten years' time, it is ten times worse. we are not going to do it that way just pretend it is not there. i will take andy bell. if only so i can say personally and to your face,
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