hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. here in the uk, more than 3,500 shop workers from next have won a six—year battle for equal pay. the amount of back—pay owed could amount to more than £30 million. we speak to an employment and discrimination lawyer.

welcome back. the relationship between the united states and china has been severely tested during president biden�*s term in office. but since may last year, the us national security adviser jake sullivan has developed something of a connection with wang yi, the senior foreign policy official in beijing who answers directly to xi jinping. they met four times in the last year, a channel of communication that has served as something of a shock absorber when tensions arise over taiwan, ukraine, the south china sea. today, sullivan arrived in beijing to continue that conversation, with some suggestion that the two presidents might be laying the ground for another meeting beforejoe biden leaves office. it's really interesting, this, annabel, because it seems jake sullivan is the back channel between washington and beijing right now, and to what and? because there's been some sabre rattling in respect of ukraine and the special materials

ageing is applying to russia will do you think it could bring about a result in terms of china's support for russia?— for russia? certainly, i think the uk and us _ for russia? certainly, i think the uk and us need _ for russia? certainly, i think the uk and us need to _ for russia? certainly, i think the uk and us need to have - for russia? certainly, i think the uk and us need to have a - for russia? certainly, i think the uk and us need to have a more| uk and us need to have a more coherent and robust strategy when it comes to china, and the longer that the work indoors in ukraine, the more we are seeing that consolidation of the excess of evil between states, including russia, china, iran, north korea, those which have been involved directly or otherwise in the ukraine conflict, and my view is the west has two readily sat on his hands here. this meeting does at least signal china is a priority for the bite in the ministration, but talks between washington and beijing historically have never been very easy, there's an enormous amount they need to talk about. china is going to try to suss

out what a kamala harris presidency might mean when it comes to washington's approach to basing, and meanwhile, we've got similar uncertainty here in the uk because before the election, starmer was bound to be robust with china, and only a couple weeks ago, labour was refusing to call china a threat and either the us or the uk seem to know whether they are trying to decouple from china or whether the economic dependency as such they have no option but to maintain ties with china, and it does not seem to matter how aggressive china might be in the south china sea, nor the number of instances of espionage. we only had an incidence of it in april this year, espionage, two members of parliament here in the uk. doesn't seem to matter how many instances there are of this, our position, our resolve seems far too weak. what there are of this, our position, our resolve seems far too weak. what of that, robert? _ resolve seems far too weak. what of that, robert? do _ resolve seems far too weak. what of that, robert? do you _ resolve seems far too weak. what of that, robert? do you see any - that, robert? do you see any daylight of the position of the bite

in administration and one another trump administration, what their approach might be —— biden administration? the approach might be -- biden administration?— administration? the biden administration _ administration? the biden administration is - administration? the bidenl administration is interested administration? the biden - administration is interested in managing the competition between the us and _ managing the competition between the us and china to prevent an escalation of tensions. 0ne us and china to prevent an escalation of tensions. one of the worst_ escalation of tensions. one of the worst things that could possibly happen— worst things that could possibly happen to the world would be a war between _ happen to the world would be a war between the united states and china over the _ between the united states and china over the taiwan straits or over taiwan, — over the taiwan straits or over taiwan, or— over the taiwan straits or over taiwan, oranything over the taiwan straits or over taiwan, or anything else. these are the two _ taiwan, or anything else. these are the two biggest, most powerful countries, and we need to do everything we can to manage their competition and try... we have to engage _ competition and try... we have to engage with each other. the irony here is, robert, _ engage with each other. the irony here is, robert, when _ engage with each other. the irony here is, robert, when you - engage with each other. the irony here is, robert, when you talk - engage with each other. the irony i here is, robert, when you talk about taiwan, there's all sorts of tough talk when it comes to taiwan, but the chinese understand pragmatically it is the americans have the ear of the taiwanese government? we certainly hope they understand the pragmatics of the situation on their side _ pragmatics of the situation on their side and _ pragmatics of the situation on their

side and i— pragmatics of the situation on their side. and i fear that a trump administration, managed by the same kind of— administration, managed by the same kind of people that managed last time, _ kind of people that managed last time, many of whom have abandoned trump _ time, many of whom have abandoned trump because of their fear of his irrationality... 0n the one hand, he tries— irrationality... 0n the one hand, he tries to _ irrationality... 0n the one hand, he tries to make — irrationality... 0n the one hand, he tries to make nice to people like the dictator in north korea, an on the dictator in north korea, an on the other— the dictator in north korea, an on the other hand, he is explosive in his responses.— the other hand, he is explosive in his responses. the other hand, he is explosive in his resonses. . ., ., ., his responses. what would it mean if the were his responses. what would it mean if they were more _ his responses. what would it mean if they were more trade _ his responses. what would it mean if they were more trade tariffs - his responses. what would it mean if they were more trade tariffs put - his responses. what would it mean if they were more trade tariffs put in i they were more trade tariffs put in place? joe biden has put a number of tariffs in place on steel, on chinese cars, on solar panels. what would it mean if there was a trump administration at the helm what would that mean for global trade? how would it impact the rest of us? trumpesque talked about putting 100% tariff on_ trumpesque talked about putting 100% tariff on everything. not 100%, pardon — tariff on everything. not 100%, pardon me, but a tariff on all the imports — pardon me, but a tariff on all the imports to— pardon me, but a tariff on all the imports to the united states. that would _ imports to the united states. that would be — imports to the united states. that would be a — imports to the united states. that would be a crazy idea in my book, it would _ would be a crazy idea in my book, it would be _ would be a crazy idea in my book, it would be a — would be a crazy idea in my book, it would be a sales tax on everybody in

america. _ would be a sales tax on everybody in america. it _ would be a sales tax on everybody in america, it would raise our raise prices _ america, it would raise our raise prices 0h— america, it would raise our raise prices. 0n the other hand, selective tariffs _ prices. 0n the other hand, selective tariffs are _ prices. 0n the other hand, selective tariffs are an — prices. 0n the other hand, selective tariffs are an effective weapon and the biden— tariffs are an effective weapon and the biden harris in ministry and have _ the biden harris in ministry and have used — the biden harris in ministry and have used it effectively to advance our position. with respect of electric— our position. with respect of electric cars their concern is the extent— electric cars their concern is the extent to — electric cars their concern is the extent to which government subsidies that allow— extent to which government subsidies that allow the chinese manufacturers to undercut everybody else positive prices _ to undercut everybody else positive prices in _ to undercut everybody else positive prices in a — to undercut everybody else positive prices in a way that it is anti—competitive in the end and ultimately allow for the domination of the _ ultimately allow for the domination of the whole industry by the chinese companies _ of the whole industry by the chinese companies and that would be unfair opposition — companies and that would be unfair opposition. is companies and that would be unfair o- osition. , ., .,, ., opposition. is that where europe and china would — opposition. is that where europe and china would see _ opposition. is that where europe and china would see eye _ opposition. is that where europe and china would see eye to _ opposition. is that where europe and china would see eye to eye, - opposition. is that where europe and china would see eye to eye, if- opposition. is that where europe and china would see eye to eye, if you i china would see eye to eye, if you start to get back into tariffs, trade wars between the continents, between the superpowers, your palouse out from that as well? yes. palouse out from that as well? yes, and europe — palouse out from that as well? yes, and europe is— palouse out from that as well? yes, and europe is worried _ palouse out from that as well? yes, and europe is worried -- _ palouse out from that as well? is: and europe is worried —— europe would lose out? when it comes to electric cars, solar panels, china

is running away, and becoming the absolute dominant player in those markets. it is being challenged by the us, but the us is to being forced to impose those tariffs, and in the end, as robert says, it is the consumers who will lose. they will pay higher prices. a slightly ten general point, but i think it has been long obvious that the approach to net zero in the west has been a gift to china, and perhaps we are not necessarily approaching the very important matter of decarbonisation in the right way, by having... decarbonisation in the right way, by havinu... g decarbonisation in the right way, by havinu... j ., ., decarbonisation in the right way, by havinu... .,�* ., ., having... you've open pandora's box there! 0k- — having... you've open pandora's box there! 0k. believe _ having... you've open pandora's box there! 0k. believe that _ having... you've open pandora's box there! 0k. believe that there. - having... you've open pandora's box there! 0k. believe that there. we i there! 0k. believe that there. we will maybe come back to that point another time when you are on. —— we will leave that there. big news today for 3,500 women who have worked for the fashion retailer next. they have won a six—year fight for equal pay. it's the first time an equal pay claim of this type has been awarded, and the cost to next may be over £30 million. the employment tribunal ruled the retailer had failed to show that

paying their sales consultants, who are overwhelmingly women, lower hourly pay rates than those employed in the warehouses, was not sex discrimination. next said it will appeal. but they are not the only company facing this. workers at five of the uk's largest supermarkets, asda, tesco, morrisons, sainsbury�*s and the co—op, are also pursuing equal pay cases, with the firms using the same arguments used by the women employed at next. we can speak to emma satyamurti, head of leigh day's employment and discrimination department. thanks for coming on the programme. it's significant, this, because it's the first the retailer that's lost a case of this nature. what are the implications for the others? thank ou. yes, implications for the others? thank you- yes. i — implications for the others? thank you. yes, i think— implications for the others? thank you. yes, i think the _ implications for the others? thank you. yes, i think the clients - implications for the others? thank| you. yes, i think the clients across all of— you. yes, i think the clients across all of those — you. yes, i think the clients across all of those big _ you. yes, i think the clients across all of those big supermarket - you. yes, i think the clients acrossl all of those big supermarket claims you've _ all of those big supermarket claims you've just— all of those big supermarket claims you've just mentioned _ all of those big supermarket claims you've just mentioned will - all of those big supermarket claimsl you've just mentioned will be hugely encouraged — you've just mentioned will be hugely encouraged by— you've just mentioned will be hugely encouraged by this _ you've just mentioned will be hugely encouraged by this decision. - you've just mentioned will be hugely encouraged by this decision. it - encouraged by this decision. it really— encouraged by this decision. it really is — encouraged by this decision. it really is a _ encouraged by this decision. it really is a landmark. _

encouraged by this decision. it really is a landmark. because i encouraged by this decision. it i really is a landmark. because the next _ really is a landmark. because the next claimant _ really is a landmark. because the next claimant have _ really is a landmark. because the next claimant have not _ really is a landmark. because the next claimant have not this i really is a landmark. because the i next claimant have not this won the next hurdle — next claimant have not this won the next hurdle in — next claimant have not this won the next hurdle in their— next claimant have not this won the next hurdle in their equal— next claimant have not this won the next hurdle in their equal pay- next hurdle in their equal pay litigation, _ next hurdle in their equal pay litigation, they— next hurdle in their equal pay litigation, they have - next hurdle in their equal pay litigation, they have won i next hurdle in their equal pay litigation, they have won thei next hurdle in their equal pay- litigation, they have won the right the pay— litigation, they have won the right the pay they— litigation, they have won the right the pay they should _ litigation, they have won the right the pay they should have - litigation, they have won the right the pay they should have had i litigation, they have won the right the pay they should have had all. the pay they should have had all along, _ the pay they should have had all along, so— the pay they should have had all along, so although _ the pay they should have had all along, so although it _ the pay they should have had all along, so although it does i the pay they should have had all along, so although it does not. the pay they should have had all. along, so although it does not set a precedent _ along, so although it does not set a precedent in — along, so although it does not set a precedent in their— along, so although it does not set a precedent in their legal— along, so although it does not set a precedent in their legal terms, i along, so although it does not set a precedent in their legal terms, we i precedent in their legal terms, we think— precedent in their legal terms, we think it _ precedent in their legal terms, we think it will — precedent in their legal terms, we think it will be — precedent in their legal terms, we think it will be persuasive - precedent in their legal terms, we think it will be persuasive in - precedent in their legal terms, we think it will be persuasive in the i think it will be persuasive in the supermarket _ think it will be persuasive in the supermarket claims— think it will be persuasive in the supermarket claims going i think it will be persuasive in the supermarket claims going on i think it will be persuasive in the i supermarket claims going on behind, not least _ supermarket claims going on behind, not least because _ supermarket claims going on behind, not least because the _ supermarket claims going on behind, not least because the supermarket i not least because the supermarket claimants, — not least because the supermarket claimants, like _ not least because the supermarket claimants, like the _ not least because the supermarket claimants, like the next— not least because the supermarket| claimants, like the next claimants, are comparing _ claimants, like the next claimants, are comparing themselves - claimants, like the next claimants, are comparing themselves to - are comparing themselves to warehouse _ are comparing themselves to warehouse operatives, - are comparing themselves to warehouse operatives, so i are comparing themselves toj warehouse operatives, so it's are comparing themselves to i warehouse operatives, so it's the same _ warehouse operatives, so it's the same market— warehouse operatives, so it's the same market we _ warehouse operatives, so it's the same market we are _ warehouse operatives, so it's the same market we are talking i warehouse operatives, so it's thel same market we are talking about warehouse operatives, so it's the i same market we are talking about the same _ same market we are talking about the same comparison _ same market we are talking about the same comparison across _ same market we are talking about the same comparison across gender i same comparison across gender segregated _ same comparison across gender segregated workforces. - same comparison across gender segregated workforces. and i same comparison across gender segregated workforces. and we| same comparison across gender i segregated workforces. and we have already— segregated workforces. and we have already seen — segregated workforces. and we have already seen in — segregated workforces. and we have already seen in many— segregated workforces. and we have already seen in many of— segregated workforces. and we have already seen in many of the - already seen in many of the supermarket _ already seen in many of the supermarket cases - already seen in many of the supermarket cases some i already seen in many of the supermarket cases some ofj already seen in many of the i supermarket cases some of the reasons — supermarket cases some of the reasons that _ supermarket cases some of the reasons that next _ supermarket cases some of the reasons that next put - supermarket cases some of the reasons that next put forward, | supermarket cases some of the i reasons that next put forward, or shadowed, — reasons that next put forward, or shadowed, and _ reasons that next put forward, or shadowed, and those _ reasons that next put forward, or shadowed, and those other- reasons that next put forward, ori shadowed, and those other cases. reasons that next put forward, or- shadowed, and those other cases. the defence shadowed, and those other cases. defence next was running is shadowed, and those other cases. tip; defence next was running is that, 0k, yes, this work is of equal value and it is paid differently, but we are ok to do that because the market

dictates the pay rate. these warehouse payjobs higher in the markets we have to pay the going rate the tribunal says, —— andy verity bennell says, no, that's not good enough. we are about the retailers but across a whole range of public sector and private sector businesses that has huge ramifications, surely. it certainly does. you can absolutely see the force of the tribunal�*s reasoning, because what does the market rate mean? it means what employers are willing to pay. for that particular type ofjob. if employers are allowed to hide behind the so—called market rates, ie what they themselves are choosing to pay, claimants like the next women are effectively stuck in an endless doom loop unequal pay. and so what this judgment does is free the women

claiming equal pay from that endless loop and come as you rightly say, that same business model of mostly women serving customers in shops, with mostly men servicing the warehouses, is replicated widely in the retail sector.— warehouses, is replicated widely in the retail sector. annabel denham, the retail sector. annabel denham, the gmb union _ the retail sector. annabel denham, the gmb union says _ the retail sector. annabel denham, the gmb union says it _ the retail sector. annabel denham, the gmb union says it has - the retail sector. annabel denham, the gmb union says it has about i the retail sector. annabel denham, | the gmb union says it has about ten of these cases that it's chasing up at the moment, but some of them have been years in the works, and air pushing the new government to choose an enforcement unit on equal pay. they hope that would mean there would be a more proactive approach to this sort of regulation. what would that mean for industry? i think it's a problematic indeed you have the government orjudges in this case setting people's wages rather than the market deciding. if

it was a monopoly, and next were the only retailer in britain, perhaps you could say they were hiding behind the wages that they are setting themselves, but they are not. people are free to take their labour elsewhere, and indeed these women were free to apply forjobs in warehouses rather than working on the shop floors, which i imagine is more pleasant work, with better hours... , ., ., , hours... they would say, no, they are opening _ hours... they would say, no, they are opening the — hours... they would say, no, they are opening the boxes _ hours... they would say, no, they are opening the boxes the - are opening the boxes the descriptors packed, they are working with the public, it is harder work than any warehouses, they say. that's subjective, and it looks like there were shortages when he came to filling the warehouse roles which meant that next were forced to raise the pay in order to attract more people into it. we have talked a lot in this country about the gender pay gap and equal pay, but ultimately equal pay has been mandated by law since 1970 and we have a gender pay gap because of compensating differentials in free choice. people make decisions, as well they should come to choose roles would sooth

them, and lifestyles of whatever it may be, and they accept the pay because with that... we may be, and they accept the pay because with that. . ._ because with that... we do have legislation- _ because with that... we do have legislation. we _ because with that... we do have legislation. we have _ because with that... we do have legislation. we have legislationl because with that... we do have l legislation. we have legislation in the united states as well, but here's what kamala harris said about equal pay in the us — our economy has not been working as well as it should for the women in our nation. women are paid less, promoted slower, routinely shut out of good jobs in high—paying industries, in part because our society tells women that some industries are notjust for them. sounds like you've got a similar problem?— similar problem? i couldn't agree more. similar problem? i couldn't agree more- we've _ similar problem? i couldn't agree more. we've been _ similar problem? i couldn't agree more. we've been moving - similar problem? i couldn't agree i more. we've been moving gradually, ever so— more. we've been moving gradually, ever so gradually, toward an understanding that men and women should _ understanding that men and women should be _ understanding that men and women should be paid the same thing for equal— should be paid the same thing for equal work, should be paid the same thing for equalwork, but should be paid the same thing for equal work, but these categories of the shop _ equal work, but these categories of the shop work, the stuff any warehouses, have to be broken down and people _ warehouses, have to be broken down and people have to be paid...

markets— and people have to be paid... markets are find to help get resources. they are not defined to allocate _ resources. they are not defined to allocate the resources of the society— allocate the resources of the society to the people in the society _ society to the people in the society. we need to have terms of fairness _ society. we need to have terms of fairness and understanding of who deserves— fairness and understanding of who deserves a — fairness and understanding of who deserves a basic, decent living. no 'ob deserves a basic, decent living. no job should — deserves a basic, decent living. no job should be paid anything less than what's necessary to live a decent — than what's necessary to live a decent life.— than what's necessary to live a decent life. ., ., , ., ~' decent life. emma, do you think that's where _ decent life. emma, do you think that's where we _ decent life. emma, do you think that's where we are _ decent life. emma, do you think that's where we are headed i decent life. emma, do you think. that's where we are headed here, that's where we are headed here, that in future, women should be allowed to apply forjobs in the warehouse, but it won't be the market that's at the going rate, it will be perhaps a unit, a government unit that decides what should be paid and isn't? i unit that decides what should be paid and isn't?— paid and isn't? i don't think it's the government _ paid and isn't? i don't think it's the government setting - paid and isn't? i don't think it's the government setting pay i paid and isn't? i don't think it's i the government setting pay rates. the central— the government setting pay rates. the central point _ the government setting pay rates. the central point of _ the government setting pay rates. the central point of equal- the government setting pay rates. the central point of equal pay- the government setting pay rates. the central point of equal pay is i the central point of equal pay is that, _ the central point of equal pay is that, as — the central point of equal pay is that, as was _ the central point of equal pay is that, as was said _ the central point of equal pay is that, as was said by— the central point of equal pay is that, as was said by the - that, as was said by the previous speaker. — that, as was said by the previous speaker. if— that, as was said by the previous speaker. if you— that, as was said by the previous speaker, if you have a _ that, as was said by the previous speaker, if you have a woman i that, as was said by the previous i speaker, if you have a woman doing a

'ob speaker, if you have a woman doing a job that _ speaker, if you have a woman doing a job that is _ speaker, if you have a woman doing a job that is of— speaker, if you have a woman doing a job that is of equal— speaker, if you have a woman doing a job that is of equal value, _ speaker, if you have a woman doing a job that is of equal value, and - job that is of equal value, and that's— job that is of equal value, and that's a — job that is of equal value, and that's a robust _ job that is of equal value, and that's a robust process - job that is of equal value, and that's a robust process to i job that is of equal value, and i that's a robust process to assess, equal— that's a robust process to assess, equal value — that's a robust process to assess, equal value of— that's a robust process to assess, equal value of a _ that's a robust process to assess, equal value of a job _ that's a robust process to assess, equal value of a job being - that's a robust process to assess, equal value of a job being done i that's a robust process to assess, | equal value of a job being done by that's a robust process to assess, i equal value of a job being done by a man in— equal value of a job being done by a man in the — equal value of a job being done by a man in the same _ equal value of a job being done by a man in the same workplace, - equal value of a job being done by ai man in the same workplace, loosely, she is— man in the same workplace, loosely, she is entitled — man in the same workplace, loosely, she is entitled to _ man in the same workplace, loosely, she is entitled to equal— man in the same workplace, loosely, she is entitled to equal pay. - man in the same workplace, loosely, she is entitled to equal pay. she i she is entitled to equal pay. she doesn't — she is entitled to equal pay. she doesn't have _ she is entitled to equal pay. she doesn't have to _ she is entitled to equal pay. she doesn't have to up _ she is entitled to equal pay. she doesn't have to up sticks - she is entitled to equal pay. she doesn't have to up sticks and i she is entitled to equal pay. she doesn't have to up sticks and go| doesn't have to up sticks and go work_ doesn't have to up sticks and go work somewhere _ doesn't have to up sticks and go work somewhere else _ doesn't have to up sticks and go work somewhere else or- doesn't have to up sticks and go. work somewhere else or anything doesn't have to up sticks and go - work somewhere else or anything like that. work somewhere else or anything like that indeed. — work somewhere else or anything like that indeed. if— work somewhere else or anything like that. indeed, if that _ work somewhere else or anything like that. indeed, if that was _ work somewhere else or anything like that. indeed, if that was the - that. indeed, if that was the answer. _ that. indeed, if that was the answer, there _ that. indeed, if that was the answer, there would - that. indeed, if that was the answer, there would be - that. indeed, if that was the answer, there would be no. that. indeed, if that was the - answer, there would be no shops with people _ answer, there would be no shops with people to _ answer, there would be no shops with people to serve — answer, there would be no shops with people to serve us, _ answer, there would be no shops with people to serve us, because - answer, there would be no shops with people to serve us, because they - people to serve us, because they would _ people to serve us, because they would all— people to serve us, because they would all be _ people to serve us, because they would all be in _ people to serve us, because they would all be in the _ people to serve us, because they would all be in the warehouses. i people to serve us, because they would all be in the warehouses. [i would all be in the warehouses. would all be in the warehouses. would just say, all we are would all be in the warehouses]. would just say, all we are going to see is an increasing automation, so there will be fewerjobs for everyone, and he point that, often, legislation like this does not help women. it d incentivises firms from hiring them for a few they will be in front of an employment tribunal. the problem of waiting into this when they're all going to be all service of

unintended consequences, and i would make... the culture we have in britain where we are telling young girls, does not matter how hard they try, how are they work, they will never be as good as men on account of their sex. it is very, very damaging. i of their sex. it is very, very damaging-— of their sex. it is very, very damauain. ., . . i'v e i've got to get in! we are short and up i've got to get in! we are short and up against the break. it is an interesting debate. emma, thank you for coming in. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news.

now it's time for the panel. robert, i am going to start with you. since you are at the convention in chicago last week, many people might not know that there is a very rich debate in the us about pizza and different kinds of pizza, from state to state. and the debate was settled in chicago last week, you say? we have lost your mike! sorry.

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that of you! laughter what your favourite topping? mt; what your favourite topping? my favourite what? topping! - what your favourite topping? my favourite what? topping! i'm - what your favourite topping? my favourite what? topping! i'm a l favourite what? topping! i'm a vegetarian. — favourite what? topping! i'm a vegetarian, so _ favourite what? topping! i'm a vegetarian, so i _ favourite what? topping! i'm a vegetarian, so i prefer - favourite what? topping! i'm a - vegetarian, so i prefer mushrooms, ohiohs _ vegetarian, so i prefer mushrooms, onions and — vegetarian, so i prefer mushrooms, onions and tomatoes. no pineapple? pinea le onions and tomatoes. no pineapple? pineapple is — onions and tomatoes. no pineapple? pineapple is good. _ onions and tomatoes. no pineapple? pineapple is good. you've _ onions and tomatoes. no pineapple? pineapple is good. you've lost - onions and tomatoes. no pineapple? pineapple is good. you've lost me i pineapple is good. you've lost me now! you've lost me now! we are going to move on to annabelle. you want to talk about oasis. i have pressed my children into slave labour rules, getting me tickets. are you doing the same coachella i lam. iam.|am i am. i am more excited than i thou:ht i am. i am more excited than i thought i _ i am. i am more excited than i thought i could _ i am. i am more excited than i thought i could possibly - i am. i am more excited than i thought i could possibly be. i i am. i am more excited than i. thought i could possibly be. oasis are reuniting after a decade and a half in the wilderness, squabbling between noel and liam gallagher throughout that period. they have got this big tour in the uk in 2025, this announcement is coming near

enough to the 30th anniversary of their seminal debut album, definitely maybe. questions of what is motivating this, it could bring no means of pounds of ticket sales. i hope you are second in line next next —— millions of pounds. but they will get two free tickets out of it. if they are successful. thank you for your time. we are back tomorrow. join us for that. hello, i'm sarah mulkerrins at the bbc sport centre. let's start with tennis. 2021 women's singles champion emma raducanu begins her us open campaign later tonight against the american sofia kenin, but fellow briton jack draper is already through to the second round after his opponent zhang zhuizen retired injured in the third set. the british number one looked in fine form as he blasted his way through the first two sets,

taking them 6—3, 6—0. the chinese player had to have a leg strapped and was clearly unable to play to his ability and eventually called it a day with draper 4—0 up in the third set. draper progresses. british numberfive dan evans is in a battle with 23rd seed karen khachenov. evans came from a set down and now leads 2—1. all three sets went to tie—breaks. it's currently 1—1 in the 4th. world number one jannik sinner is playing his first match since it emerged he had twice tested positive for a banned substance but escaped a lengthy ban. he lost the first set against american opponent mackenzie macdonald, but has bounced back taking the next two sets dropping just three games. as you can see there,

4—1 in the fourth. about to wrap that up there. there's been a couple of upsets in the men's draw, with two big names going out. number 1! seed stefanos tsitsipas was knocked out in four sets by autralian world number 86 thanasi kokkinakis. and the 2021 semi—finalist felix auger—aliassime lost in straight sets to the 18—year—old czech jakub mensik. in the women's draw, the british number one katie boulter is through. she beat belarus's aliaksandra sasnovich in three sets to progress to the second round. there's been a big win for naomi osaka. the japanese player beat 10th seed jelena ostapenko in straight sets, 6—3, 6—2. it's her first win over a top ten player in four years. world number one iga swiatek had to battle hard to win her first round match against kamilla rakhimova. it was an unconvincing display from the 2022 champion. she committed 41 unforced errors and had to fight off three set points before taking

a 6—4, 7—6 win. and numberfour seed elena rybakina hasjust won against the australian destenee aiava, world number194, 6—1, 7—6. plenty more, of course, on the bbc sport tennis of all the tennis ongoing. —— bbc sport website. olly stone will replace mark wood in the only change to england's ii for the second test against sri lanka at lord's. england have begun their preparation, after a five—wicket win at old trafford last week. stone was in the squad for that one, but comes in to start forjust his fourth test cap, following wood's withdrawal due to an injury and he's hopeful he can make an impact. ijust love, yeah, the slog, should i say, of that hard graft and going out there and providing your team with something different to try

and help you win the game. and i've always said, which is one of the reasons why i've been down certain surgical routes, like to have my back sorted, so i can go out there and play test cricket again. so it's never been in my eyes to give that up, and if my body then gave up on me, i may have to step away. but thankfully so far i've found a way and i can be back out there in an england shirt. the paralympics are nearly upon us as athletes continue to arrive in the village ahead of the opening ceremony in paris on wednesday. paralympics gb have named theirflag bearers as seven—time para wheelchair basketballer terry bywater and wheelchair tennis athlete lucy shuker, who herself will be competing at her fifth games. it's mind—blowing. to be a paralympian is one thing, to be a five—time paralympian and then be a flag bearer isjust insane. it's a career that i have to look back and be very proud of.

everyone's arriving at different times, but every time you arrive, you are welcomed with heartfelt emotions. people are proud. we have all qualified. we exist in our team sports so much that when we all come together, it is a huge team and we are so proud to represent our country. there's 18 games in the second round of the league cup this evening, and everton were able to forget about their poor premier league form with a 3—0 win against league two's doncaster rovers. the goal of the game was scored by iliman ndiaye — the summer signing from marseille got the second of the game for sean dyche's side, who pick up their first win of the season. potentially some confidence too. elsewhere, fulham are also comfortably through with victory at birmingham city — a rauljiminez penalty and this strike from jay stansfield enough to wrap up a 2—0 win.

full details of the 18 games are on the bbc sport website and app, but thatisit the bbc sport website and app, but that is it for me for now. goodbye. hello there. tuesday brought us three different zones of weather across the uk, so it was quite a mixed weather picture. it was across parts of the east midlands, central, southern england, east anglia and the south east that we had the best of the day sunshine and it was warm too, temperatures reached the mid 20s in the warmest spots. but not that far away we had this stripe of rain, a slow moving weather front that brought wet weather. the front itself did move away from scotland and northern ireland for the most part after a soggy morning here in crieff and perth and kinross. at least the weather brighten up through the afternoon. now looking at the weather picture overnight tonight, here is our weak weather front, stretched across northern england, wales and into the south west of england. with that there will be some areas of low cloud, bit of mist and fog around some of the hills and the coast, and further patches of mostly light rain.

there will be some rain returning to northern ireland towards the end of the night as well. we've got these three zones of weather then for the forecast tomorrow too. first of all, our old weather front, well, it could pep up to bring one or two heavier bursts of rain, but i think more likely the heaviest rain on wednesday will be affecting northern ireland and into parts of scotland through the course of the day, but that still leaves east anglia and south east england, where it's going to be dry, sunny and warm. if anything, it could be even hotter. temperatures might reach 27 degrees in the very warmest spots. now, by the time we get to thursday, a cold front will have swept away that heat from easternmost areas of england, so temperatures will be returning back closer to average. a lot of dry weather around. a few blustery showers, though, for the north—west of scotland and a few isolated showers, possibly building through the day in northern ireland and the north—west of both england and wales. but overall, thursday's not a bad kind of day. and for friday, well, there is a risk of seeing a few showers affect the northern isles for a time, thanks to this area of low pressure. but otherwise high pressure starts to build across the uk and that's going to be with us through friday and into the weekend beyond.

what that means is for most of you, it's looking dry to the end of the week. could be a few early morning mist and fog patches to clear, but otherwise some fine spells of sunshine are forecast to develop widely. temperatures again climbing into the 20s widely across england and wales. high teens for scotland and northern ireland. in that late august sunshine it should feel pleasantly warm and the sunny skies stay with us into the weekend as well. however, there isjust a small chance of a few showers coming up from france to affect southernmost areas of england on sunday.

tonight at ten — prepare for a painful budget in october, warns the prime minister. i'll have to turn to the country and make big asks of you as well, to accept short—term pain for long—term good. we'll be asking what choices the government might make. also on the programme... free after more than ten months — a hostage taken by hamas is rescued from a tunnel in gaza. the usjustice department tries

again to file charges against donald trump for his attempt to overturn the 2020 presidential election. it was a landmark supreme court ruling that put the case on hold. in the last few minutes we have heard from government lawyers who say they will try again. the un visits the nuclear power plant in russia which it warns is at risk because of fighting in the region. # so sally can wait... the previously feuding gallagher brothers announce oasis is reforming and will be touring next year. and we hear from the 14—year—old table tennis player hoping to bring home a medal for paralympics gb. and stay with us here on bbc news for continuing coverage and analysis from our team of correspondents in the uk and around the world.