many of those there will be and where they might crop up. and actually, saturday will be a largely dry day. quite a lot of sunshine around, more cloud spilling into southern parts of england, perhaps south wales, and the chance of one or two showers and perhaps the odd thunderstorm across the channel islands and perhaps south—east england later in the day. a breeze will keep things cool close to these north sea coasts — 17 for aberdeen and newcastle. more generally, though, 19 to 22 or 23 degrees, so quite a warm day. quite warm and humid overnight, through saturday night into sunday, especially across the south, and we will see further, very well—scattered showers and thunderstorms pushing northwards, i think especially across some eastern counties of england. 16 degrees the overnight low in london, a cooler 9 degrees there for glasgow. as we go through sunday, well, that warm, humid air continues to push northwards. with it, quite a lot of cloud and the chance for one or two of those showers and thunderstorms. if they do crop up, they could bring a lot of rain,

perhaps some squally winds, maybe some hail thrown in, especially across eastern england, but many spots will avoid the showers and stay dry. 19 to maybe 27 or 28 degrees down towards the south—east. now, through sunday night, we will see further showers and thunderstorms, perhaps most especially across eastern england. but low pressure�*s swirling in from the west, and that means from monday, there will be a lot of cloud, there will be some outbreaks of rain. some of that rain will be heavy, possibly thundery. it could really be quite misty and murky around some coasts out towards the west, but we will see some spells of sunshine as well. still getting up to around 25 degrees across parts of east anglia, but out towards the west, things will be turning cooler and fresher. and that sets the theme, really, through the middle part of the week — some cooler conditions, some rain at times. it might warm up again, though, for some of us by the end of the week.

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getting our public services working again. getting those and itjust waiting list down, and i'm really proud after what we have seen over the past 1a years to be part of a government that is ruthlessly determined to make sure we achieve those most important aims on the of the british people. you've worked alonuside a of the british people. you've worked alongside a party — of the british people. you've worked alongside a party leader, _ of the british people. you've worked alongside a party leader, and - of the british people. you've worked alongside a party leader, and it - of the british people. you've worked alongside a party leader, and it is i alongside a party leader, and it is true. we didn't go down, but you think that fairly precipitous drop, 20 points in eight weeks, will that alarmed the leaders office? it will alarmed the leaders office? it will do, i alarmed the leaders office? it will do. i think — alarmed the leaders office? it will do. i think the _ alarmed the leaders office? it will do, i think the people _ alarmed the leaders office? it will do, i think the people in - alarmed the leaders office? it will do, i think the people in keir- do, i think the people in keir starmer's _ do, i think the people in keir starmer's office will look at that and be — starmer's office will look at that and be thinking, we need to turn it around~ _ and be thinking, we need to turn it around. you're expecting to be a

little _ around. you're expecting to be a little bit — around. you're expecting to be a little bit unpopular, especially if you tell — little bit unpopular, especially if you tell people, you voted for change — you tell people, you voted for change but it's all about to get worse. — change but it's all about to get worse, but you want to do things in a way— worse, but you want to do things in a way that— worse, but you want to do things in a way that you can take the people with you _ a way that you can take the people with you and i think labour had a good _ with you and i think labour had a good couple of weeks at the beginning, they clearly had an agenda — beginning, they clearly had an agenda of undoing some of the things the tories _ agenda of undoing some of the things the tories had done. that's the easy part of— the tories had done. that's the easy part of going into government to make _ part of going into government to make getting to what your predecessors have done. what they're finding _ predecessors have done. what they're finding now _ predecessors have done. what they're finding now is governing is difficult _ finding now is governing is difficult. actually sent out what you are — difficult. actually sent out what you are going to do, how you are going _ you are going to do, how you are going to — you are going to do, how you are going to make that change you have promised, _ going to make that change you have promised, they haven't done that yet. promised, they haven't done that yet no— promised, they haven't done that yet. no substance to their ideas and we had _ yet. no substance to their ideas and we had this— yet. no substance to their ideas and we had this whole picture about growth, — we had this whole picture about growth, there is no big plan there yet, growth, there is no big plan there yet. no _ growth, there is no big plan there yet, no substance on the plan for this and — yet, no substance on the plan for this and tessmann is going to come from, _ this and tessmann is going to come from, instead talk of more cuts. come _ from, instead talk of more cuts. come ltack— from, instead talk of more cuts. come back to growth in the second. a lot of the policies that labour have introduced, that feel to me like smart government, get people to stop smoking, get more people

into the workplace. isn't that what government should be doing if they cannot spend the sort of money they would like to spend on?— would like to spend on? happy to go throu~h the would like to spend on? happy to go through the detail _ would like to spend on? happy to go through the detail on _ would like to spend on? happy to go through the detail on any _ would like to spend on? happy to go through the detail on any individual. through the detail on any individual policy, _ through the detail on any individual policy, but — through the detail on any individual policy, but the _ through the detail on any individual policy. but the big _ through the detail on any individual policy, but the big set—piece - through the detail on any individual policy, but the big set—piece of- policy, but the big set—piece of this government _ policy, but the big set—piece of this government was _ policy, but the big set—piece of this government was that - policy, but the big set—piece of- this government was that statement in the _ this government was that statement in the house — this government was that statement in the house of— this government was that statement in the house of commons _ this government was that statement in the house of commons at - 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to say that and then give these inflation — to say that and then give these inflation busting _ to say that and then give these inflation busting pay— to say that and then give these inflation busting pay awards i inflation busting pay awards to train _ inflation busting pay awards to train drivers— inflation busting pay awards to train drivers in— inflation busting pay awards to train drivers in the _ inflation busting pay awards to train drivers in the public- inflation busting pay awards to i train drivers in the public sector union. — train drivers in the public sector union. it — train drivers in the public sector union. it was— train drivers in the public sector union. it wasa— train drivers in the public sector union, it was a very— train drivers in the public sector union, it was a very bad - train drivers in the public sector union, it was a very bad first. union, it was a very bad first impression _ union, it was a very bad first impression to— union, it was a very bad first impression to give, - union, it was a very bad first impression to give, and - union, it was a very bad first impression to give, and i- union, it was a very bad first . impression to give, and i think union, it was a very bad first - impression to give, and i think it's the absolute — impression to give, and i think it's the absolute fund _ impression to give, and i think it's the absolute fund mental- impression to give, and i think it's the absolute fund mental reason i impression to give, and i think it's. the absolute fund mental reason why that graph _ the absolute fund mental reason why that graph you — the absolute fund mental reason why that graph you just _ the absolute fund mental reason why that graph you just put _ the absolute fund mental reason why that graph you just put up _ the absolute fund mental reason why that graph you just put up there - the absolute fund mental reason why that graph you just put up there is i that graph you just put up there is is that as — that graph you just put up there is is that as it— that graph you just put up there is is that as it is, _ that graph you just put up there is is that as it is, and _ that graph you just put up there is is that as it is, and chris - that graph you just put up there is is that as it is, and chris is - is that as it is, and chris is a former— is that as it is, and chris is a former pollster— is that as it is, and chris is a former pollster and - is that as it is, and chris is a former pollster and he - is that as it is, and chris is a former pollster and he is. is that as it is, and chris is a . former pollster and he is doing is that as it is, and chris is a - former pollster and he is doing a very good — former pollster and he is doing a very good job _ former pollster and he is doing a very good job of _ former pollster and he is doing a very good job of spending - former pollster and he is doing a very good job of spending that. very good job of spending that pole, but that's— very good job of spending that pole, but that's a — very good job of spending that pole, but that's a bad _ very good job of spending that pole, but that's a bad pull. _ it's like a teacher in the first day

of school — if you are soft - in front of your classroom - on the first day, they will never respect you or you gain your authority— afterwards is very difficult. authority _ what labour have done is notjustl the fact that this sector pay awards will cost six or £7 billion, - that will not be helping pensioners heat their homes this winter, it is because every public sector union now in the country looks at this government and think - they are a soft touch. they will now have to establish their strength in a way - that they have thrown away in the first few weeks. - strikes are very expensive. i think you're being deeply inresponsible to do two things, one is to allow the strike to continue given the billions and billions of pounds they cost the economy, but notjust the economy but peoples' lives that have lost in the national health service because of many reasons. and further strikes would not have helped that. one of the most important things we can do for economic growth in the country is get down nhs waiting lists, because there are people not going to work because they are stuck on waiting lists. i'm not going to apologise for making sure we come to an agreement with doctors and the city get them back into hospitals to start getting down

those waiting lists. on top of that, what we have seen in the past 1a years is real dramatic real terms cuts to our nhs pay staff, and one of the consequences of that has been a dramatic shortage of nurses and doctors in this country. if you run a business, and i've worked in the private sector all my life, and you have a big staff shortage, one of the things you do is you don't do what the previous conservative government wanted to do — let's do another real terms cut of those staff we've got a massive shortage of. you come up with a plan in order to start getting the stuff back into the nhs. the problem with labour and the pay deals, and i'm supporting the public sector workers getting good pay, the scottish government when i was there, they did get pay rises when the tories weren't giving them pay rises in england, but labour have created a situation where they could actually put more money in to do this. they put the fiscal straitjacket on themselves and instead they are saying...

the left are pointing to a new 0br report that shows raising public investment by 1% of gdp would boost output by 0.4% after five years, 2.5% of the 50 years. this return to austerity concerns a lot of people in your party. we will have to see what the plans are in the budget. ultimately, we need to be an economy that invests. a lot of that will have to come, most of it from the private sector as well. but you need stability in the private sector, and today you talk about condensing the working week into four days, so is that the sort of stability that encourages employers to invest? being the kind of a country... it'ss really important and that's why some of the reforms we have them to the planning system will be so crucial. this is the other contradiction, - you can't be a government that says there is no money left and throw money at the unions, _ you can't say you are a government for growth and then you cancel - infrastructure projects, you make it a lot more|

expensive for employers to start hiring workers. i basically, a lot more red tape thrown into the economy. - the government at some point really i is going to have to take some hard i choices, and at the moment, - it's making pensioners pay an awful lot more over the winter,j by losing their winter fuel allowance, but the people that fund |the labour party, the trade unions, j are getting off scot—free. it really isn't good enough - for chris to just blame the tories. the fact is, what every public city union now, i as you have indicated, _ you're frightened of strike action. you said that strikes hurt people. they hear that — they know just the threat of a strike l l and you will cave in to their wage . demands and that will cause so many problems down the line. crosstalk we had 1a years of trying the other way, this completely confrontational attitude of, "let's just be nasty to the trade unions and see what happens," and what is the consequence? people not being able to get to work on trains because they don't run, people not being able to go to the nhs and get appointments... crosstalk

the problem with that analysis is you've taken what the tories have done on not investing, rachel reeves has flexibility, the 0br is showing there is room to invest and get growth, and so far she is refusing to do that, which is putting you in this position where you have to cut budgets — which is getting passed on to local authorities, devolved governments. it's not going to generate... it's not a change, it's taking the same fiscal policy the tories had and locking yourself into it. we can't magic money from somewhere, but it's not the same approach, it's a different approach. we are investing in the economy, setting up a new publicly owned energy company, gb energy, that will invest in energy security to help our economy, but in the long term, i think something at least we can all agree on is that rachel's central diagnosis, that the most important mission is to get growth back into the economy, after the anaemic growth we have seen after 1a years of conservatives, will be crucially important and we are starting to make those

decisions that are necessary to achieve that. we'll leave that there, thank you. the social media giant x, owned by elon musk, has tonight been banned from brazil. the supreme court ordered the "immediate and complete suspension" of the service after the company refused to take down dozens of x accounts the justice ministry said was spreading disinformation. it comes on the back of a decision in france this week to prosecute the russian owner of telegram pavol durov. he is facing a litany of charges linked to fraud, drug trafficking and child pornography that was faciliated by the telegram app. it all marks an extraordinary shift in attitudes towards the social media companies and in particular encrypted messaging. never before have the biggest companies been held criminally responsible for things circulating on their platforms. lord richard allan is a liberal democrat peer, and for ten years, he was facebook�*s director of policy in europe. welcome. two very big stories. are we seeing a sea change, a real watershed moment?

what we are seeing is that these companies are now important enough, they have massive societal effects, and there is an expectation they respect the rule of law. in many cases, they are doing that already. the biggest companies are. if you look at meta over the last six months of 2023, meta were asked to provide uk data by law enforcement, british law enforcement are going to them 50 times a day asking for data. and in the vast majority of cases, they are getting it. there is an amount of routine cooperation that goes with it. pavol durov was arrested in france because he did not have a licence to run a messaging app in france. did you realise you need a licence in france? we did you realise you need a licence in france?— in france? we are still seeing the details. they do relate to this failure to cooperate with law enforcement.

law enforcement agencies come to you, and if they are investigating something live now, where people are being hurt because of activity on the platform, people are coordinating a terrorist attack or whatever it is, they want you to cooperate with them. end to end encryption is not as it seems. do you alert police to things that might be in that encryption service? what end to end encryption means that if uk law enforcement captures some data from the bt network, they cannot read it. but what usually happens is they have caught one person in a network, they've got that person, they've got that phone — they can see the messages and they go to the platform and say, here are ten other people in the network plotting some horrendous activity, can you give us e—mail addresses, phone numbers and ip addresses so we can find them? they expect you to cooperate, and the ethical thing for any platform is to cooperate where they have a good—faith belief that the law enforcement agency going after people who are causing active harm. but what is unique is denying culpability for not tackling crime on the platform

in the name of free speech is no longer a sufficient defence. not if you are failing to cooperate on a serious criminal activity. my experience is if a government says, "we want you to take down the opposition politician's speech," you can push back. is that is what is happening in brazil? result is closer to that, actually. myjob was to read the room and understand where a government's red lines were and try to get us to not cross them, or if we do, let's do it very deliberately, let's withdraw in an orderly way. if you're going to read the room... after the rights in the uk, —— riots in the uk... ..86% of the public blamed social media for fuelling the disruption in the riots. there is an expectation that responsible companies behave responsibly. we have an online safety act that 0fcom is introducing,

and there is an expectation that 0fcom will be tough with companies and say, look, you should not tolerate things that provoke illegal activity on the streets. that's not ok. there is speech, people expressing views there, we can have an argument, but where the speech is linked to somebody going out, dragging somebody from a car because of the colour of their skin and beating them up, any responsible platform should be willing to... that's the thing about responsible platforms. there might be some people who guard their privacyjealously and value end to end encryption and say, having listened to you tonight, they do deal with the police, they do open up e—mail accounts, they do provide information. do you worry that, with tighter regulation in europe, you might push users to those rogue states where apps are not policed properly? absolutely. and i will be in parliament, defending end to end encryption, but that is conditional on being responsible and engaging with law enforcement when they have identified bad guys.

the two go hand in hand. you are right. if the british government ordered the banning of and doing can —— end to end encryption, they would go somewhere else. let's keep these major services encrypted, because for most people most of the time, the privacy is valuable, including most politicians, but conditional on the platforms engaging with law enforcement responsibly when they have identified a real problem. they are not trying to censor the opposition, they are trying to stop nasty people hurting fellow citizens. good to get your thoughts. thank you. the scottish national party lost 38 seats in the general election. today the postmortem began, as members gathered in edinburgh for the annual party conference. it has been a dreadful yearfor the snp — the party and their former leader are still subject to an ongoing police investigation, the membership has collapsed, support for independence remains high, but that is always tied to the political fortunes of the party. so how does the party regroup and rebuild from here? here's the snp leader and first minister of scotland, john swinney.

my message to the party conference will be that we are the party that can deliver hope and ambition for scotland, by setting out that our strong, financially viable and successful country can do an awful lot better as an independent country. and we've got to make that case to the people of scotland. we will do that by proving ourselves as an effective government that acts in the public interest in scotland. liz, there has been a lot of finger—pointing within the party over the summer, a lot of dissatisfaction with the leadership — people don't think they are being listened to, concerns over the spending choices that are coming at holyrood. it's not the backdrop for a reset, is it? i was there today when the party began... actually, it did not begin today, it started injuly. but the party gathered for a sort of review _ but the party gathered for a sort of review this — but the party gathered for a sort of review this morning. but it was candid, it was quite hard, sometimes quite difficult to listen to, but it was actually very refreshing. john swinney have been around the country across the summer, with candidates that lost,

they have been listening to the party. they were doing it again this morning. by the end of this morning's session, there was a coming together. everyone had kind of had their say, got their points across, everyone felt they had been heard. at least in the room i had been in. by the end of the session, everyone said, right, we know we have a lot to do internally and externally to get back on track. but a determination to do that. i was quite surprised... how long will that last? it is a very broad tent, the snp, it brings together a lot of political views, and the glue that kept it together was the push for independence. if you only have nine seats at westminster, if things don't look rosy in 2026, how cohesive is the party? the party has had a number of issues over the last year or two and it has reduced in size, but what is there now, the group i saw this morning,

was a cohesive group. they are not about to give up. a smaller government... i'm not sure we ever grasped how to handle so many members. it was a workmanlike tone this morning. what you need now are people that are going _ what you need now are people that are going to reform the party internally. there is a real sense is morning that they were up for that. in government, they need to work out how to protect public services and protect what the snp has delivered that is unique, the social contract with the people of scotland, that doesn't exist of the uk, which is under threat because of this continuation of austerity. the fiscal commission says they have given away a lot of money on public sector pay deals, so there is not money left. this is the challenge. under conservatives, we have had either austerity as a result of the financial crash or austerity under the conservatives. there was reason to hope that that might change as we were told under labour,

it is not, so a government that does not know how much money it has got, because rachel reeves hasn't told it yet, has to work out how to pay public sector pay deals, which it should do, because public servants have earned that pay. i think the basic problem is, and ithink the basic problem is, and i don't _ ithink the basic problem is, and i don't think— ithink the basic problem is, and i don't think you _ ithink the basic problem is, and i don't think you cute _ ithink the basic problem is, and i don't think you cute away - ithink the basic problem is, and i don't think you cute away from i ithink the basic problem is, and i. don't think you cute away from it... you have a record now. i'm old enough to remember- that the scottish education system |was absolutely the best in the uk, | it nowhere is now in the same way. the nhs in scotland gets a lot more money, but the results... _ so they are bound to their record? as are the tories. absolutely. that dragged us down at the last election i and it is inevitable that the s&p... not to mention the . terrible drugs record. is it easier to reset when you're out in the wilderness cut away from government? the snp has a job to do in holyrood. there is a lot of truth in that. government is incredibly hard.

no one outside of government realises— no one outside of government realises the _ no one outside of government realises the pace _ no one outside of government realises the pace of— no one outside of government realises the pace of events. i to rethink, which the snp needsl to do, as my party needed to do, it's hard to reinvent - yourself in government. for labour, it was a good election result north of the border, but when you look to 2026, there might be people who lost trust in the snp who say, if we elect a labour leadership, we will have more power. ultimately, the problem we have seen in the snp is quite similar to what we have seen with the conservatives, it is that sort of chaos and cronyism that has caused those problems. you can talk about that, but the issue is for the party that there has been too much focus on independence and not the bread—and—butter issues of how you run a country. in the meantime, we have to get the economy growing, which means right across the country, in scotland as well as the rest of the uk and we want to make sure...

this is one of the key issues — the scottish elections are 18 months away, that is a good test of how labourare doing. so what the scottish electorate will be doing is looking at how the snp has done and how the labour government have done. labour in scotland have not been accountable for a long time. your fortunes are entwined, because rachel reeves has to set the budget and the spending and you have to do something with it. at the moment, the scottish government is in a position, because of what was announced a week ago, they are trying to work out how to spend money when it doesn't know how much it has and we're almost halfway through the year. that is ridiculous. how serious is the investigation? and how much does that overshadow what the party is trying to do? it's not a day—to—day presence, you can't deny... no—one could deny that it was not an issue in the election.

it casts doubt over the party. nobody knows what is going on... it is taking forever. and there is a fair amount of disgruntlement in the party and the public, because people don't have answers and don't know what is going on. however it ends, the sooner it ends, the better. we are going to change the subject entirely. there is a new criminal trend emerging in england. beaver bombing. conservationists are warning that vigilantes have been covertly releasing beavers into the countryside because successive governments have failed to organise and licence wild releases. supporters of the beaver say they are the earth's natural healer, often revitalising the rivers in which they live. and we need more of them. but it has to be done responsibly. derek gow is a conservationist and author of bringing back the beaver. he is with us from his farm in devon. lovely to see you. thank you for coming on the programme.

let's start with the beaver — why is it the earth's best friend? it is because it is a gardener, it creates is complex sponges by building dams and canals to suit its own needs, and it regenerates the wetland, moss is reformed, and it slows the flow of water. if you don't want water coming in and flooding your schools and churches and institutions, then beavers above your village are good news. do you support beaver bombing? yes, i think we should erect statues to the brave people who took action. without them, nothing would have happened. what you would have had from the politicians and many nature conservationists and organisations is fine words but no action. so the people who released the beavers and established a population that might amounts to somewhere in the region of 3500 animals nationally, they are heroes.

i'm trying to get an impression of what they look like. are they clambering down river banks in the dead of night with beavers in their baskets? how does it work? where do they target? live from washington. this is bbc news. a russian strike on an apartment complex and a playground in ukraine's eastern city of kharkiv kills israel's military hits an aid convoy in gaza — killing four people. and, riding high in the polls. the far—right alternative for germany looks set to come out on top in state elections this sunday. we begin in ukraine, where a russian air strike killed at least seven people on friday in the eastern city of kharkiv. six people were killed when a guided bomb hit

an apartment buiding, while a 14—year—old girl at a nearby playground was also killed. many more were wounded in the strike, including 20 who are in a "severe condition" according to the regional governor. kharkiv has come under heavy russian attacks for months. 0ur correspondent abdujalil abdurasulov is following from kyiv. each day in car they also killed a 14—year—old girl in the playground. the guided bombs that moscow used to attack kharkiv _

guided bombs that moscow used to attack kharkiv are _ guided bombs that moscow used to attack kharkiv are cruise -