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against polio is getting under way in gaza this weekend. israel and hamas have agreed to pause fighting in certain areas to allow the roll—out to take place. the far right is on the cusp of winning the most votes in german state elections for the first time since the nazis. hundreds of thousands of people are right now queueing online for tickets for next year's reunion tour of the british rock band oasis. the defending men's tennis champion, novak djokovic, has been knocked out of the us open by australia's alexei popyrin. let's go back to the scramble to get oasis tickets for their reunion gigs which went on sale two and half hours ago in the uk. and as you can imagine, booking websites have gone into meltdown as fans tried to get on to book. similar issues were encountered when the two shows at dublin's croke park, in ireland went on sale. the band has warned that any tickets for their reunion concerts resold unofficially at inflated prices will be cancelled.
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rogers in bolton. it has been quite a stressful morning here as people have been trying to get in the queue. we heard of website problems, ticketmaster are insisting they have not crashed, to hold your place and just have one tab open at a time. there are 17 dates, around 1.4 million tickets and around 1.4 million tickets and a good number of people in this room trying to get them. so what are your chances? remi, you said it was your mum, but we heard a squeal.— you said it was your mum, but we heard a squeal. why? we “ust entered the fi we heard a squeal. why? we 'ust entered the queue, i we heard a squeal. why? we 'ust entered the queue, which is h entered the queue, which is quite — entered the queue, which is quite rare _ entered the queue, which is quite rare in the room here so far, _ quite rare in the room here so far. so— quite rare in the room here so far. so we _ quite rare in the room here so far, so we thought we were doing — far, so we thought we were doing well for ourselves. you are 10,000. _
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doing well for ourselves. you are 10,000. are _ doing well for ourselves. you are 10,000. are you - doing well for ourselves. you are 10,000. are you feeling | are 10,000. are you feeling hepeful? — are 10,000. are you feeling hepeful? we _ are 10,000. are you feeling hopeful? we have _ are 10,000. are you feeling hopeful? we have gone - are 10,000. are you feeling l hopeful? we have gone down about— hopeful? we have gone down about 9045 minutes, so there is about 9045 minutes, so there is a long _ about 9045 minutes, so there is a long weit— about 9045 minutes, so there is a long wait still.— a long wait still. india, we have heard _ a long wait still. india, we have heard already - a long wait still. india, we have heard already that i a long wait still. india, we . have heard already that there are problems with the website. ticketmaster has said they are not crashing.— not crashing. ours did crash. we did manage _ not crashing. ours did crash. we did manage to _ not crashing. ours did crash. we did manage to get - not crashing. ours did crash. we did manage to get some | we did manage to get some presale _ we did manage to get some presale yesterday, - we did manage to get some presale yesterday, but - we did manage to get some presale yesterday, but we . we did manage to get some i presale yesterday, but we have crashed — presale yesterday, but we have crashed we _ presale yesterday, but we have crashed. we have _ presale yesterday, but we have crashed. we have given- presale yesterday, but we have crashed. we have given up. - presale yesterday, but we havei crashed. we have given up. you are on 75,000! _ crashed. we have given up. are on 75,000! charlie, where are on 75,000! charlie, where are you up to? are on 75,000! charlie, where are you up to?— are you up to? still at the same place- _ are you up to? still at the same place. this - are you up to? still at the same place. this is - are you up to? still at the same place. this is what l are you up to? still at the | same place. this is what it looks like. _ same place. this is what it looks like. it _ same place. this is what it looks like. it gets - same place. this is what it looks like. it gets you - same place. this is what it looks like. it gets you all | looks like. it gets you all excited. _ looks like. it gets you all excited, then _ looks like. it gets you all excited, then it - looks like. it gets you all excited, then it just - looks like. it gets you all l excited, then itjust shoots back— excited, then itjust shoots back down. excited, then it 'ust shoots back down.h excited, then it 'ust shoots backdown. ., ., ., ., back down. you have had that circle of death _ back down. you have had that circle of death for _ back down. you have had that circle of death for about - back down. you have had that circle of death for about ten i circle of death for about ten minutes. circle of death for about ten minutes-— minutes. you don't want to touch the _ minutes. you don't want to touch the ipad. _ minutes. you don't want to touch the ipad. don't - minutes. you don't want to touch the ipad. don't touch anything. _ touch the ipad. don't touch anything, nobody - touch the ipad. don't touch anything, nobody knew. i touch the ipad. don't touch l anything, nobody knew. one touch the ipad. don't touch - anything, nobody knew. one chap here is sitting quite pretty.
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darren, why are you so happy while everyone else is stressed? i while everyone else is stressed?— while everyone else is stressed? ., . , , , stressed? i got wembley tickets last nieht. stressed? i got wembley tickets last night- i'm — stressed? i got wembley tickets last night. i'm happy. _ stressed? i got wembley tickets last night. i'm happy. i- stressed? i got wembley tickets last night. i'm happy. i don't - last night. i'm happy. i don't want to say _ last night. i'm happy. i don't want to say that _ last night. i'm happy. i don't want to say that you - last night. i'm happy. i don't want to say that you look - last night. i'm happy. i don't - want to say that you look smug, but you do. i want to say that you look smug, but you do-_ but you do. i am, very smug. watching _ but you do. i am, very smug. watching all— but you do. i am, very smug. watching all these _ but you do. i am, very smug. watching all these panic, - but you do. i am, very smug. watching all these panic, it's| watching all these panic, it's deiightfui _ watching all these panic, it's delightful. i'm _ watching all these panic, it's delightful. i'm going - watching all these panic, it's delightful. i'm going to- watching all these panic, it's delightful. i'm going to the l delightful. i'm going to the first— delightful. i'm going to the first night— delightful. i'm going to the first night at _ delightful. i'm going to the first night at wembley. - delightful. i'm going to the first night at wembley. fisl delightful. i'm going to the first night at wembley. as you mentioned. — first night at wembley. as you mentioned, there _ first night at wembley. as you mentioned, there is _ first night at wembley. as you mentioned, there is that - mentioned, there is that morning, a lot of tickets that people are buying will end up on resale sites. the ban to put out a statement to say do not buy these. please choose to be really careful you are bang in front from. the band say it is ticketmaster tatts you get them from and you should only buy them at resale at face value. do bear that in mind, don't get carried away. these tickets are going at supersonic speed. will there be more dates,
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definitely, maybe, who knows? you're watching bbc news. injanuary, the un's top court, the international court ofjustice, ruled that israel must take all measures to prevent genocidal acts in gaza, including public statements that could incite genocide. it was an interim ruling in a case brought by south africa accusing israel of committing genocide, which israel strongly rejects. bbc news arabic has been investigating what's been said publicly in israel since then, and what action the state has taken to prevent incitement. here is the full report. israel has a genocidal intent against the palestinians in gaza. the charge of genocide levelled against israel is not only false, it's outrageous. the highest court of i the united nations has ruled that israel must take all measures to prevent i genocidal acts in gaza. the court's january ruling also included this provision for israel. to prevent and punish the direct and public incitement to commit genocide.
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but israel has been accused of allowing controversial statements to continue. since hamas's attack on israel in october 2023 and israel's subsequent military campaign in gaza. both sides have used inflammatory language. bbc news arabic asks what action has israel taken since the ruling at the international court ofjustice? we investigate what's been said publicly since then by israeli leaders and in the media, and examine what israeli soldiers in gaza have been posting online. could these statements reach the level of inciting genocide? the icj case is against israel, a signatory to the genocide convention, so that is the focus of this film. but what about hamas? why aren't their leaders who are accused of war crimes being taken to the icj? genocide is defined
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as acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group. the convention outlines five punishable acts, one of which is the direct and public incitement or call to action to commit genocide. this crime is also illegal under israeli national law. the deputy speaker, a member of the prime minister's likud party made these comments weeks after the ch�*s order. he'd previously called to burn gaza in a post on x. he said he deleted it following a request from the platform, but he didn't apologise. and controversial comments have been made even by members of the government team.
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this call by israel's national security minister was made just two days after the icj ruling. before becoming a minister, mr ben—gvir was convicted on eight charges, including inciting violence and supporting a terrorist organisation. the minister has been calling for palestinians to leave gaza since 7th october, saying israelis should settle there and that this is the right thing to do. and that this is the right thing to do according to the torah. a similar sentiment was also echoed by israeli soldiers on the ground in gaza before the icj order. a human rights organisation has been collecting cases they argue are inciting genocide and include minister ben—gvir�*s speeches.
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we consider the calling to displacement of the gaza population as part of the ethnic cleansing that is ongoing in gaza, that is part of the genocide. ethnic cleansing has not been recognised as an independent crime under international law. the un defines it as using force or intimidation to remove persons of giving groups from the area. the commission of experts say such acts could also fall within the meaning of the genocide convention. certain statements, let's say, by itamar ben—gvir and others, you know, i'm definitely not going to defend such statements, but they do not rise to the level of genocide. certainly. in a lobby meeting at the knesset, minister ben—gvir set out plans for settlements in gaza and the emigration of palestinians who live there.
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the voluntary migration plan, which would involve resettling gazans, a population of more than two million, reportedly to the congo, among other countries, has seen support from dozens of cabinet ministers, members of the knesset and some from the prime minister's likud party. mr ben—gvirand mr vaturi did not respond to the bbc�*s request for comment. there have been videos since 7th october by idf soldiers mocking and celebrating the destruction of gaza.
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we can see that it's impossible to return gaza to what it was, because 70% of it has been destroyed. because over 33,000 people have been killed, 14,000 of whom are children. so the incitement against the people of gaza has translated, infact, into concrete actions. so there is a direct link. i mean, it cannot be missed. the idf told the bbc that it handles videos posted by soldiers with command and disciplinary measures, and that in some of the examined cases, it is concluded that the expression or behaviour of the soldiers in the footage is inappropriate. south africa claimed... israel's political leaders, military commanders and persons holding official positions have systematically and in explicit terms declared their genocidal
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intent. and these statements are then repeated by soldiers on the ground in gaza. and gave this example... this speech was addressing soldiers before the ground offensive in gaza. amalek comes from a biblical story where israelites are ambushed by the amalek people and god commands their destruction, women and children included. the war against amalek is described as a mitzvah war underjudaism. it includes defending jewish life and sovereignty. it is a war commanded by god and it's obligatory to fight. i think netanyahu's reference to amalek in the modern context of this war was highly problematic, because it was, in a way, kind of dog whistling. in a way, it was using a term that's vague and could be understood in different ways in order to rally support, especially among the religious camp.
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prime minister netanyahu's office says he was talking about hamas in connection to amalek and not palestinian civilians. to understand the reach of the term amalek, the bbc investigated online mentions since the start of the war, filtering those to ones associated with gaza war, and narrowing that down further to mentions just in hebrew. we collected over 3,600 mentions and found they reached a total of six million users within a time frame of september 2023 to june 2024. to june 2024, mentions peaked around the time of mr netanyahu's speech, and again at the beginning of december, when this video went viral.
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this religious language and ideology has become part of the messaging within israel, at least in some communities. in march, an annual conference took place for all zionist yeshivas — jewish religious schools in israel. rabbi eliyahu mali gives a lecture which he describes as being about the treatment of civilians in gaza. the following clip went viral and has been watched over a million times. we have added our own verified translations. one description of a mitzvah war, which rabbi mali discusses in his lecture, includes a commandment that states do not allow a soul to live. can the mitzvah war be a genocidal war? well, i mean, it's a bit anachronistic to talk about genocide
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when you're referring to texts that are 3,500 years ago. back then, the term genocide wasn't applied. taking verbally and literally ancient wars and applying those standards to today could be considered genocide. the original video posted by the yeshiva conference was taken down, but by that time clips have been copied and shared. we contacted rabbi eliyahu malhi about his lecture. his legal representative replied saying that the rabbi's lecture had been grossly misrepresented, and that he made it very clear that anyone following the biblical commandment today would be causing the army and the nation extreme harm. the rabbi said that it is forbidden to harm the civilian population from a child to an old man. we asked for a copy of the full 47 minute video but did not receive a response. we managed to track down the whole lecture from a different source, and rabbi malhi does conclude the following.
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however, earlier in the lecture, he discusses the position ofjewish texts in relation to civilian populations and says this.
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this unsubstantiated claim was followed by a question from the audience. the rabbi also recounts a conversation he had with his son, who went to fight after the attacks by hamas on seventh october. after examining open source information, the bbc found that rabbi mahli is the head of a yeshiva that is part of a network receiving funding from the israeli government, specifically the ministry of defence.
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the yeshivas have a combined total of over 10,000 students who mix torah study with military service, and many are active in the israel defense forces. israeli authorities are considering whether to open a criminal investigation into rabbi mahli's lecture on suspicion of incitement to genocide, violence and terrorism. israeli media outlet haaretz reported that police are recommending the case be dropped, and that a final decision will be made by the state prosecutor. the bbc has not been able to verify this. the case application was made by itai mach, a lawyer representing the israeli anti—racism organisation, who gave us this update. we are waiting for the state prosecutor to decide if the police should open a criminal investigation into rabbi malhi. if they don't, it will be a message to the far right in israel that they can continue the incitement not only regarding civilians in gaza,
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but also in the west bank and non—jews inside of israel. israel sas long accused hamas in many palestinian and arab leaders of using language that is anti—semitic and sometimes with genocidal intent. calls for violence against israelis and dues are also shared on arabic language social media. the bbc analysed online posts in arabic since october 7th, and found at least 6,000 posts using the term kill the dues or israelis, which reached around four million users. hamas calls for the end of israeli military occupation in gaza and the west bank, and for israel to be replaced by an islamic state. they used the language of militantjihad, which, like the mitzva war injudaism, is a form of religiously sanctioned warfare. the annihilationist language of hamas's charter is repeated regularly by its leaders.
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since the attacks on 7th october, when around 1,200 people were killed, the majority civilians, and 252 were taken hostage, some hamas officials have said they will repeat the acts. and there are widespread calls for hamas, proscribed as a terrorist group by the us, uk and other western countries, to be held to account. it's quite clear that they do have genocidal intent, and we hear very little about investigating hamas, and i think that's a real missing piece in this entire conflict. hamas cannot be taken to the icj because it is a group governing a territory not legally recognised as a state,
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though its leaders have been accused of crimes against humanity by the separate international criminal court. when assessing genocide, one is to look at the words spoken uttered by leaders, but also other two elements — the capacity to commit genocide, which hamas per se doesn't seem to have. israel is a signatory to the genocide convention and says it upholds international standards. its prime minister and defence minister also have arrest warrants being sought against them at the icc. israel has conducted this war by fighting hamas. hamas hides behind civilians and inevitably some of those civilians have regrettably and tragically been harmed. hamas did not respond to the bbc�*s request for comment.
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broadcasters and the media shape public opinion. as such, what they say is significant. here is one post january exchange. the patriots is a popular current affairs talk show broadcast daily on israel's right wing channel 14. it's seen viewership skyrocket since october 7th. these comments were broadcast after hamas reported that dozens of civilians in gaza were killed in an operation to assassinate a senior member of hamas.
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prime minister netanyahu has continued to give interviews to channel 14, despite reportedly boycotting most israeli channels since the start of the war in gaza. controversial comments have also been broadcast on israel's most watched commercial tv channel, channel 12. in israel, as in many countries around the world, media organisations are held to account. regulators, which is the state, have to make sure that public broadcasting is not exploited. it's not calling for genocide. it's showing a, you know, disturbing lack of empathy for people in gaza and what they're going through right now. the bbc contacted state regulators, both broadcasters and journalists, for comment, and only received a response
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from yehuda schlesinger, who highlighted the atrocities on october 7th, and the civilians, including children who were killed or taken hostage by hamas and other militant groups. two days before the court hearing injanuary, israel's attorney general said any statements calling for intentional harm to civilians contradicts the policy of the state of israel and may amount to a criminal offence, including the offence of incitement. currently, several such cases are being examined by israeli law enforcement authorities. the icj ordered israel to submit a report within one month, detailing the action it has taken to investigate and prosecute possible instances of incitement. the court confirmed that the report was received in february, but nothing else has been made public. we have been very worried that israelis are exposed to such
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incitement without any law enforcement reaction, and that israelis who incite to genocide or use genocidal rhetoric, are even today immune from prosecution. whether there are investigations, of course, depends on whether in theirview any arguable incitement to genocide has happened. israeli media is reporting an investigation into mr ben—gvirfor incitement has been opened. mr ben—gvir reacted to the report saying, "unbelievable. the state attorney is trying to indict an israeli minister for inciting against enemy state citizens seventh". the bbc contacted
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israel's state attorney, police commissioner and ministry of justice for comment. only the ministry of justice replied, saying they have to balance the constitutional right to freedom of speech while safeguarding against harmful incitement, and that law enforcement authorities constantly act to curtail incitement offences, and these efforts have been prioritised by israel's attorney general in recent months. what happens if israel does not comply with the icj? it's not a criminal court, so it doesn't sentence anyone to jail. it makes rulings which are usually ignored by the countries against whom they go. the icj only issues orders, but enforcement falls to the un security council and member states. so if israel does not comply, it could theoretically face economic and trade sanctions, arms embargoes and travel bans. but this could be vetoed by its allies at the un, in particular the us. contrary to allegations against israel made by the international court ofjustice, what is happening is not genocide. we reject that. however, more countries have come out in support of the case against israel.
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13 countries and territories, including those of spain and ireland, intend tojoin south africa in accusing israel of genocide in the gaza strip. once part of the case, those countries will be able to make submissions and speak at public hearings. i think it's really time for accountability at the international level, and i say so in the interest of both palestinians and israelis. the icj issued the interim order because the final verdict will take years. and while there is no end in sight to this deadly and long standing conflict between israelis and palestinians, inflammatory language from both sides continues. it's unclear what gaza will look like or how it will be governed once a final ruling is eventually issued. in aberdeenshire, just one of the many pictures we have had this morning.
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we have cloud across the south—east of england and a few showers have moved their way in as well. that cloud will continue into the afternoon. still a possibility of the odd shower but elsewhere, that sunshine will continue and it is going to be a pleasant day with maximum temperatures of 17 to 22 celsius. perhaps fresher around the north sea coasts. through tonight, we will see some pretty heavy showers starting to move their way in across the south—east of england. those could potentially be heavy and thundery into the early hours of sunday morning. they will drift further northward and with that, much more warm and humid air. temperatures will rise but it also means that sunday morning will be pretty warm in the south—east of england, 15 or 16 degrees here but further north, not as chilly as last
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night with temperatures down to nine or 10 degrees. sunday we will continue to see the thread to see the threat of the showers moving in across southern areas. the odd rumble of thunder, some gusty winds with that. uncertainty on the exact locations of those showers but there will be some dry weather further north for most of the day with some sunny spells, and turning quite warm in the southeast with temperatures up to 26 or 27 degrees. next week, high—pressure shifts away to scandinavia, low pressure moves in. that will bring a more unsettled feel. we will see some showers and longer spells of rain but that rain could be on the heavy side with thunder as well. as well. they will drift north they will drift north and sunny spells developing in central, eastern and sunny spells developing in central, eastern and southern parts later on the and southern parts later on the day on monday. day on monday. temperatures are still temperatures are still getting into the mid—20s across the south—east, getting into the mid—20s across the south—east, elsewhere, temperatures at 17 elsewhere, temperatures at 17 to 21 degrees. to 21 degrees. on through the week, on through the week, it will remain a little it will remain a little bit mixed. bit mixed. some rain around at times some rain around at times particularly on tuesday particularly on tuesday but there will also be a good but there will also be a good
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deal of dry weather with some deal of dry weather with some sunny spells. sunny spells. temperatures, 18 to 24 temperatures, 18 to 24 degrees, typical for this degrees, typical for this time of year. time of year. live from london, this is bbc news. live from london, this is bbc news. fighting causes in parts of fighting of gaza in preparation for the gaza in preparation for the delivery of polio vaccines, delivery of polio more than 600,000 children are to be inoculated. social media silence as brazil bands x. the supreme court suspends elon musk and's platform until it complies with the legal orders. oasis fans content with queues and crashes as they race for tickets for one of the most hotly anticipated reunion. and the museum welcomes back a four—year—old boy who smashed a three and a half thousand year old vase.
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