we are working to make them even more meaningful, we also provide these educational services from the outside, that is , as you can see, the help is quite diverse, multifaceted, and, well , effective, as for exhibition activities, you have already mentioned this a little , another direction of yours, what do we have in the near future? this year we held five collective large exhibitions, the geography is quite wide, these include the cis countries, uzbekistan, for example, then the middle east, saudi arabia, pakistan, iran, from the nearest, nearest, we are planning a major exhibition in vietnam, it will be vietnam expo, it will be held in ha chi minh city in december, from december 7 to 9, so many enterprises from various industries will be represented, that is, our participation will be quite representative of the exhibitions .

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hello, you are watching the program say don’t be silent, victoria popova and tatyana sherbina are in the studio. and today our guest is the artist, chairman of the belarusian union of artists, greb anatolyevich otchik. hello. hello. glep anatolyevich, we found among your works the one called

the story of one family. we ’ll show it now, you can lose yourself in this work and meditate for hours, it seems to me, but against its background we ask. tell you about your family, we know that your mother and father were artists and your grandmother was engaged in folk art? yes, this work was born just like that, i planned it as a child, this is one of the still lifes that i saw every day, this is a cactus, this is a family consisting of several cacti, the largest one is dad, next to me is mom and me sister, that is, my sister, a designer, so i looked i had such an association with this one since childhood. that this is like our family, the four of them are all the time, together all the time, well , the circle is the outline of the fact that this is one cell, and the thorns, and the thorns - it doesn’t matter, that is, the hedgehog also has thorns, but can hugging, how not to say, these are personal boundaries, yes, yes, so as not to bore you

once again with a list of what you personally have created in recent years, let's listen to how you describe it in the program the meaning of life? i'm not one of those who shout if an artist' who will make a small object yes in their lives they will talk about this on every corner, i still think that time should be evaluated, because today, well, starting from the thirteenth year, that is , i have a lot of objects behind me, this is the palace of independence , this is the azerbaijani embassy in baku, our belarusian one, this is the kazakhstan embassy, ​​we completed 170 km of ceiling painting in 7 days, in the republic this is the personal commission, yes, that is, this is the slutsky museum , this is the author’s concept of the historical museum of the future, the late olegomovich and i vorobyov developed it, you translated it from karl marx, yes, yes, yes, a new building, today this is the lepel museum, this is the cherven

museum of local history, this is the grodno castle, the same one, this is the writers' alley in kopol, a series of bok, that is, today we have project, we are also developing a museum, now there will be a meeting , this is in khatyn, which is being built, yes, that is, we are working and brainstorming constantly, which is worth noting, you do not stay for a long time in any one genre or artistic direction, yours favorite cure for burnout is change activities, well, probably the most cure for burnout for me is creativity, this is my painting, because here i, as you know, many people relax, yes, that is, some people play sports, some... read books, yes , that is, for me today painting has become - this is what i try not to sell, what i do for myself, and strangely enough, when this urge came to do it for myself, it began to sell, but painting took a long time to didn’t suit you, but you, well,

since i’m a muralist, of course, my main bread, when i graduated from the academy, was monumental frescoes, paintings, stained glass, that is, objects and this incredible number, in the city of minsk, these are mostly private objects, well, from urban sculpture to frescoes, then to painting, which is everything -does the genre bring you the greatest moral satisfaction? today time is changing, it is changing very quickly, and you simply correspond to this time, when we are immersed in the historical layer, and when we are in the ideological space, yes, that is when we create museums like khatyn, there kakarich, like ala, like in borki, for me it touches us today, captivates , captivates us, because this is our history, this is a whole layer and we must carry it like a flag in front of us, yeah , well, your small architectural forms are becoming truly folk, and let’s make sure of this. wow, now it’s normal, can you imagine how much of it you can eat, this condensed milk,

in general there are no indifferent people, everyone who passes rogachov, along the highway, stops, considers it their duty at your sculpture, this jar condensed milk dedicated to our famous brand to take a photo or make some kind of video, but today in fact this is a truly unique small-architectural form, because i... had two objects, the first was the rock of abundance, from which it was made of bronze , a rather expensive sculpture , then the management says: no, we have a brand , let’s give it the maximum, that is , present it this way, i say, let’s then make a mosaic, that is, when you didn’t see it in the video, but the evening lighting, when this jar is illuminated, it has a special meaning, such a crystal, an orgachev crystal, which is multifaceted, which shines, and indeed all the people who pass by me... the most interesting thing is that even my distant relatives are from russia, where - there, and he says, we were , we liked it so much, i’m serious, i

didn’t take this small architectural form seriously at the beginning, yes, but i just see what an incredible image it gave the city, all the weddings stop there, all the people take pictures, they are already just a legend i thought i had to go there , and the mosaic, you know, it’s not at all in our tradition, it’s more reminiscent of something oriental, like some kind of hammam, this paste, than your istanbul style, it seems to me , he sings some kind of tune, this, this mosaic, did you come up with it yourself, or is it you, yes, this is completely my author’s development, that is, i spent a long time, well, choosing the scales so that one to two, the slope was calculated, that is, it seemed with its simplicity, yes, that is, well, choose these scales, these volumes so that one works with the other and works spatially, that is, this is the 4 m composition itself, well, in relation to the building, that is, it is really well chosen in space, yeah. it seems to me that it is precisely this simplicity, this simplicity lies in what is popular, the secret of popularity,

that the residents of the city do not need to guess what the artist meant, well, a can of condensed milk , well, that’s absolutely right, because i can bear it, and today it it’s no secret that people spend a lot of time, go somewhere to egypt, there to turkey, or somewhere else to relax, our country is so beautiful, it’s all nearby, we just don’t see it, we don’t have a sea, but we do, i’ve fallen in love with our country three times lately... this is our green sea, what wealth we have , we just don’t understand, thousands of rivers , lakes, yes, that the chinese know how to value forests, ours come, they don’t have this, they say that we ourselves don’t even realize what kind of gold we are sitting on, well, yes, absolutely right , how did you come to faith, did monumental art somehow influence your religiosity, yes, that is, since childhood i went... to a church school, my mother took me, plus we had traditions, these are all

orthodox holidays, we revered them, that is, easter, the nativity of christ, even christmas was more important than the new year, yes, and i was probably very lucky to visit holland in 1994, we went under the chernobyl program, studied there for 2 months, and there was a mandatory lesson, this is orthodox teaching, not orthodox, christian, probably, but not protestants themselves. and there we sculpted, drew, this whole bible, went through it directly motor skills, and after, of course, the academy of arts , when we arrived at the mirozh monastery, the snyatogorsky monastery, when i met the famous restorer sarabyanov, who dedicated his entire work to polotsk, that is , this is an incredible time, fascinating, where you not only immerse yourself in religion, you you just have it at your fingertips, you copy it, you have a whole incredible layer of history there, a layer of professional skills you have acquired. after this time, of course, i dreamed of painting the temple, well, exactly in byzantine style, because he

just penetrated me and lived with me for 20 years, until he realized this idea, and you said that you returned to faith, what does this mean, but you know, like in any business there is also disappointment, yes, that is - when the abbess of the monastery came and said, mother fatina, in my opinion, i’m mistaken today, she says, well, in general, i would probably plaster all these frescoes, putty, well, god forgive me, that i’m saying this now, but i would have painted it with brand new fresh ones, well that is, for me it was the first shock. the second shock, my colleague and i worked there, well, when we all finished in 2 weeks, you ’re talking about the vishnevo temple, i’m talking, i’m talking about the monastery, and about the monastery, and uh, he asked to paint the gates, they painted the gates, we thought , now we ’re running out of money, how can i say, i think, well, probably, now we ’ll earn money, we’ll feed ours here

, i was the head boy, they give us some absolutely ridiculous amount there for a day for some kind of donation, and for... for me it's there was such disappointment that , well, how can it be, we’re trying there, we communicate there , not only do they not understand art, but they also deceived us there, yes, that is, well, god hasn’t abandoned us, you know , it was the city holiday of the millennium of pskov, we sat in the park, the students had no money, this is a different country, they didn’t understand what to do, what to eat, we still had 2 weeks to live, we sat down, i painted children’s portraits, my colleagues were adults, we immediately doped with prices, twice cheaper, believe me, we had them, we are from the park we went out, the pskov girls met us there, they took us there in a carriage, they then took us home in a carriage, we had a lot of money from russian money, and we bought cakes, came to our people with good news, well, we celebrated such a victory , we had enough money and brought it with us, just like musicians, yes, when there is not enough money, they go into transition and that

’s disappointment, you know, for some reason i want to go back to disappointment, for a long time it was as if i had something like this to reflect religion, god is always. wasn't there, but i didn’t have such communication with the clergy, yes, there were , as i said, a lot of such private objects, you had disappointment in the institute, yes, yes, in the church, yes, yes, in the institute, and when, uh, here i already graduated from the academy, i went this way at the age of 20, and very miraculously one day i realized for myself that, let’s say, there is a private customer, and you draw, for example, he asks, well, i was in venice, please draw for me in venice , that’s what i want, i say, well, come on, maybe i’ll offer you a creative sketch, i i began to offer everyone my creative vision, and why didn’t i want to draw venice, for one simple reason, before that i had already painted it there three or four times, but when i visited there in the eleventh year at the bianale, i realized that i’m deceiving people, it’s another venice, i’ve never

been there, but i painted it for them, you need to convey the image, the spirit of this place where you ’ve been, then it will be right. and after that i started doing creative work, all my customers ran away, because there, well, one, two, three remained, and so to speak, a hungry time came , well, teaching, you know, doesn’t bring in much income, and after six months i returned to god, began to pray, began to pray, and literally a year later, the lord was there for me this kind of fishing is also an interesting story, so we met father alexander and with his blessing. the bishop of the youth had the opportunity to paint the temple, namely a fresco, this is a fresco with pigments using italian technology. yeah, and i’ll also remind you that you keep the fast for our viewers and now not always, but you are trying, and in one of these abstinences a project came to you about under the sign of fish, yes, and

i would like to know what other symbols, besides fish, do you consider powerful in our christianity? well, i think, of course, this is the cross in all its manifestations, i even studied the cross and well, earlier there is the 5th century, the fourth, that is, it is very interesting, for me, of course , these are the symbols of the evangelists and the seraphim, this is a very powerful christian symbol, well , from this i can probably also say that the star is probably nine-pointed, and that is well, that is, the symbols, in principle , are all christian strong, there is a symbol of a ship , a symbol, when you were working in the temple , you were painting it, you felt some kind of presence, but invisible, artists always talk about some kind of mystical manifestations at that moment, you had , you know, i had one mystical manifestation, but firstly, i never felt tired there, yeah, that is, well, despite the fact that you had to work there from 9 to 9:00 in the evening, that is, you didn’t feel tired ,

second, i had such an interesting case, well, my father told me that if everything comes easy, then it’s from the evil one, if there are some thorns, some friction, some conflicts, then it means, well, we’re shying away from god’s right, so there was one such case when we had an argument, the space is small, well, i defended the dark blue color, which later expanded the space, but when the fox is in the temple, everything is covered with film and you don’t understand how everyone was just afraid that before the temple was light and painted , whitewashed with this white paint, was big, actually no, laws monumentally a little different, this dark blue color eventually expanded the space and the parishioners themselves cried, but what was the miracle when we argued with him? we left the church with father alexander, i felt such a smell, such an incense, this is how it happens, well, like a miracle, this, i say, father alexander, you feel, look at the kind of fragrant

herbs on the field, he says, no, and then i understood it, after that he probably resigned himself, and a miracle happened, for the painting of the cherry temple, you at one time received a national award, tell us more about this work and how such amazing frescoes were created in general? well, you know, here in this temple a unique technology was used, when we opened the walls, that is, they were painted on the bottom, it was painted, well, with ordinary miles, this is lime plaster, at first we planned a classic fresco on the damp, but since the construction of the ceiling did not allow we should do this, we made a decision, i already had a lot of practice, these are italian - venetian, yes, that is, these are special lime -based pastes, on top there is a pigment, this is a natural pigment that... is used, that is, there are no acrylic resins, nothing, well , let’s say, a very complex space, this is the dome, in the center is christ, yes , symbols

of the evangelists, the angelic chimney, that is , the seraphim and the angelic chimney, well, the main holidays are the ascension of christ, the nativity, uh, the altar part is also very interesting, and where the ascension we depict cosmos and domian, too such a monumental example, the basic legends, you know that a cosmoman are healers who did not take any bribe for their healing, and one of them took three eggs, they quarreled, well, in honor of the holy spirit, yes, that is, they quarreled, and the legend says , that when they buried one, the second one said not to bury everything nearby, but the camel then spoke in the desert with a human voice, bury it, it ’s okay, he broke no vow, so this arch, which today connects the cosma and the domian, this is also at the core lies. that is all the ornaments were thought out, thought out, even the very interesting scene of the last judgment in the narthex, everyone who again passes by comes into this temple, they then write

rave reviews, and before recording you told us that we could create a very interesting route, maybe tell our viewers, you know, this land , that is, this is cherry, he won’t let me go here, after painting the temple we are already holding eight plein airs, it’s called the holy land of belarus , together with the moldechensk park, with the orthodox church, that’s where we are all spend time with everyone well, colleagues who come from st. petersburg , there from moscow, from bashkartastan, there, from moldova, i’m taking along the route, this is vishneva, it’s a must see, that is, then we go, go to the temple, scabs and domyata, inert domyata is a must, look with from different angles, there is a font there today, also with mosaics, and you can take a dip, even in hot weather, because the water there is cold, but the font is probably always closed, no, it’s open, it’s open all the time. at any time of the day you can, it doesn’t close, uh-huh, this is, of course, a church, one of the most ancient in our territory, after that come to bogdanova to see the storage of the first world war,

that is, this is a must, this is the grave of ferdinand ruszczyca, our famous artist, uh-huh, then this is the golshany castle, well, everything that is there, that is, take a walk through golshany, then this breakers, our vidno boroko and we return through krevo to minsk, well, beauty, thank you. huge, in order to do something great, you need to believe, well, in particular, believe not only in god, but in yourself, you have enough self-confidence, as you probably think, self-confidence is never enough, you are an artist all the time, in order to develop and whatever he does, he always doubts, he always questions something, he is not afraid, he should not be afraid of spoiling, he should not be in love with himself, that is, these are probably qualities that should move you, but is there some kind of artistic skill? or a skill that you don’t have, but would like to learn, i probably have one, well, not really a skill, i have it, as

a child i’ll just tell you, i sculpted very well, and i dreamed of becoming a sculptor, i have here is my teacher, lyudmila golubeva , she said, just apply for sculpture, you say, well, you have all the makings, yes, that is, apply for sculpture, so i still think, i just probably haven’t gotten around to it, i don’t have enough free time , but i will definitely take up professional sculpture. because i already see the time has come, i want to try it, that is, change the painting, she’s a girl, i’m not changing the painting, i’m just in parallel, i just want to do it live, this is no longer work , anatolyevich said that this is already, this is even part rest, you know, you can make a symbiosis , that is, apply color to a sculpture, i know that you love symbiosis and we will discuss it in the second part, but for now we’ll take a break for a while, i remind you that we have a telegram channel, say no keep quiet, subscribe, ask questions, and suggest guests, we are in touch. don’t be silent on the air again,

today our guest is the artist, chairman of the belarusian union of artists, gleb otchik, but it’s worth noting that the post of chairman is no less difficult than a religious post the belarusian union of artists, you joined it at the age of 36, in 20020, there were about a thousand people in the union of artists, how many are there now? today there are 1071, if i’m not mistaken, today, in addition to the fact that there are more than a thousand members, these are 10 unitary enterprises, and the leading one is a sculpture studio, an art cabin, a palace of arts, this is an incredible responsibility , and i can say that despite the fact that there are difficult covid and economic times, we have increased all indicators; today we have day, that’s when we statistics of more than 500 events in 3 years took place throughout

the country, this is a republican... international, joint, personal exhibitions, and today we are implementing everything, well, almost 95% without the support of, so to speak, the ministry of culture, and please tell me, which artists’ departure do you consider irreplaceable for the country, there are those who cause you sincere regret, well, you know, in our country i can probably say that out of a thousand people, i’ll probably leave the country about ten, it’s even probable , there is less than 1%, i think that everyone has their own choice, that is , everyone goes their own way, everyone has their own beliefs, but in fact, it seems to me that time will, well, sort of arrange, replenish, and take away and bring someone to their senses, well, that is, you you don’t have a normal attitude towards the phrase irreplaceable, i believe that our land is very rich in talent, and i can say, even in the word irreplaceable, when we held an international competition in the eighteenth year, this is

florendi. famous art academy in italy, was the chairman of the jury and when we took all the first places, our children, i mauri, the professor of this academy came up and said: you have a great future, i say, why mori, you have very talented children, yeah, we rely on them, but there are those who, out of stupidity, as you think, got carried away, of course, completely true, a lot, because well, i think that even today it seems to me that there is a little bit of a bias towards our artists, because they are emotional people, they are creative people, they are people who can... easily trust and believe someone , i believe that very many, well, that is, on emotions, somewhere out of ignorance somehow, they were deceived, and today they receive some kind of ban, but i think that this needs to be looked into carefully, because this inattention, when we now begin to look carefully, it’s just that there are three people there right away, we realized that somewhere out there someone had made a mistake, yes, that is, that is why it is very important to approach each person carefully, because each of them is a whole world, a whole philosophy,

an image? this is uniqueness, yes, that is, they are not such that they can be there for someone replace someone and so on, well, you contradict yourself, it’s possible to replace, no, i’m saying that new ones will come, but we won’t get that anymore, you like to repeat that today artists should think in projects, why how? do you think we haven’t had at least one big exhibition dedicated to the events of 2020, and the artist, well, he’s art in general, it’s done in such a way that it still educates the right people, and educates... so that a person moves, for a person to create, yes, that is, i think that in the twentieth year showed a lot, yes, and what is happening today with our art, that we are returning, and a lot of steps have been taken by our youth movement, and the youth generation, what is happening today at our exhibitions, yes, that is, those patriotic notes, and those projects there , for example, and those collaborations that are happening, with there we showed a wide

range of works when we did... such a cross-section by may 9, then this exhibition was shown in the cities where we have an older generation studio military artists, where we have young people who work at a high level and make such objects like ala yes, for example, they raise it like khatyn, there like assemblies, and into the object, that is, i can say that there is a very close connection here, in addition to this twentieth year, there were also a lot of processes, but the fact that it did not affect art, i cannot say so, i understand that there is no why, well, that impulse and think about the future, well, against the backdrop of your picture, the legend of choice, please explain why were you chosen as the head bsj at such a young age? well, you know , it’s probably trust, yes, i can say that i didn’t have a strong desire, that is, i just came when i came and let’s say so with

artists. i saw what was missing , something that could be worked on, and as a rule, we have all the chairmen, this has been the case for 60 years, but they are elected, well, honestly, i can tell you what it is. well, they don’t want to change anything much, and some kind of reforms, some kind of movement, so that this is all, well, of course, we are filled with life of the artists’ union, yes, that is, we, if before there was not a single plein air there, this is at least five plein airs a year , i remember that your predecessor, he was worried about free workshops, this was his main project, and he put a lot of effort into it , so that artists have some kind of reduced payment ratios, and so on and so forth. well, this was before rygor semyonovich, this was vladimir petrovich, and this wave caught me too, that is, i also had to sladimich prokoptsov with andreimovich klivosheev, so we were engaged in the second, again when we passed these, and were deprived

benefits, thanks to the ministry of culture, we also set aside this coefficient, yet it was preserved, of course, it was preserved, and today , thanks to the state, our artists have a unique opportunity to rent premises at a reduced coefficient, another thing was that exhibition activities were suspended, very we often giggled at the fact that in the palace of arts they sell fur coats and honey and warm socks, but you won’t find artists there during the day, of course you changed this topic, but firstly we changed the projects, we instead of one bianaly, trianali appeared, three trianali, which we conduct once every 3 years, this is one trianaly of painting, graffiti, sculpture, the second is adrenaline, so to speak, we have art objects, these are such innovations, well, decorative... descartes of decorative and applied arts, and we carry the best extracts from these projects throughout the country. in particular, i saw mogilev, recently an exhibition of conceptual art, and you said in one interview that you even

asked for an extension, but it was so true that yes, that’s when projects began to appear in the palace of arts, and people started walking when we were talking, let’s say that the director of a famous museum, i say, how many people visit you during covid times, he says, 12 people a day, and we have 250, that is, us, well, people really go there , where it’s interesting, yeah, well, i wanted to ask, see what they saw, and how they perceived conceptual art in mogilyo, if there is a reaction, if people go, ask for an extension, they also go, i i think that this means that it is interesting, that is, in principle, as we can understand, i liked it, i didn’t like this visit, that is... it’s word of mouth, which, not a single advertisement, will give such an influx of viewers, recently in this studio we discussed the sculpture of a bird, your colleague maxim petrul, it made a lot of noise, it’s a success on your opinion? well, you know, i

’m referring to maxim petrul as the only sculptor so far, who is very progressive in his work, very organic, and what he does is a clear example of how things should happen today, let’s say, well the author, as he should enter... into the urban space here, he does not betray himself, he is not different, that is, what i see in the workshop, i see in the exterior, then in the interior, so this is his great victory, merit and a maximum of only new achievements, but not all of our viewers, our viewers will agree with you and say that you need to have some kind of superpowers in order to see a work of art in this, you know, well, probably, this is still upbringing, this must be instilled , this must be taught, this, because you must learn to look at pictures, you must not just go to the exhibition, go for a ship expert, ask for the author’s exhibition , if the author is being restored, yes, so that, because when you guide a person, when you tell him, it’s right there, well, 80% of you will see what you haven’t seen before

that, so you can put a qr code here so that people can read it, so that it can be told that even though people, well, i can tell you more about the visuals, after all, art shouldn’t be completely understandable, something? must be associative, that is, it must specify questions and answer questions, yes , it’s this kind of not entirely clear art, it gives birth to helps a person move, this visual series, he will, let ’s say, walk around from this sculpture for 20 years, yes, and at the age of 21 he will say, here i am now understood, solved, the infinity sign, but at the beginning we talked about the fact that here is a simple can of condensed milk, it is understandable, therefore popular, here the birds are not obvious, will they become? not popular, well , there is hype - that’s obvious, but it’s not necessary that it become popular, the most the main thing is that today this is a task, that is , the task is a little different, so as not to become popular, but so that today a person, everyone who will encounter, firstly, so that

he raises his spiritual plastic development, so that he asks questions, answers them, so that he doesn’t think that everything is clear, so that he develops his vision , so that he discovers something new for himself every day, i agree, your works: from textured paste, which people called mayonnaise, yes, paintings, they were also a great success , but in particular it seems to me that she was attracted name of the technique. but also this ukrainian still life was one of the first works that sold, and it seems to me that you still have the rural and still life, right? yes, this is the only job that remained out of all of them, i wonder why the ukrainian one went, everything is the same, but the rural ones no longer wanted it, well, the fact is that it was the fourteenth year, this is when this conflict began in ukraine, so well , in this ukrainian committee you see how there are two vessels, and a black vessel, it separates, yellow and black, that is, here it is, as it were

it turns out how the division started, here among the people you see, there is the center of the composition, this is a black vessel and two two glasses, this is like a flag that is separated, well, i was transmitting the time, i saw that this was already happening, that this was going on , and that this was a division, the same thing i felt in the nineteenth year when i made the project it was called peacetime, that is, it is an allegory of war and goodness and i did not yet know that there would be some kind of conflict operation, well, a group of artists, four people, we made a project peacetime, where they showed the allegory, so peacetime war, that is, an artist in a sense must be a little ahead of time, well, time demands from artists more and more new subjects, let's say in your new works you reflect on war and peace, but what is on your soul now? today my soul, you know, is very calm and in such a calm state, you know, i have this

, by the way, from the peacetime project, work, yes, this was done before the 2nd year, i understand you very well, at the same time approximately the time in nineteen i was at the dacha, we were walking through the meadow there, picking flowers, then we saw a train that was carrying tanks, and it burst into this pastoral landscape so much that i somehow became anxious, and when i saw your work, i realized what you were thinking about the same thing, and in conversation, that is in my soul, today is probably the time when i have a great responsibility in my soul, for the union of artists, for myself, for each of us, because today an artist is not just a hobby, not just a note, this is a big responsibility, and we must understand today that everyone a person who touches a white canvas, or begins to sculpt something on a piece of clay, today, well, we are responsible not only for our creative impoverishment, but for our entire country, this work, which we just saw, also has an interesting name , one in the field is not a warrior, which also has, well, several

meanings and meanings, and you are such a pacifist, i feel, i remember back in the village when they brought us as children, grandmother, i say, i was in holland, you know, i’m telling it so interestingly in a daze, with my impressions, i say, you would like to get there someday, she won’t give you a grandchild, no matter how there was a war, and all the time, well, hehe-ha-ha, i thought that it was far away, that it wasn’t true, it’s all like this turns out to be nearby and can happen at any moment, so well, that’s why you need to appreciate every day, have time to do good deeds, especially create art, the artists had even bigger plans related to the construction of a new building of the historical museum, and you spoke so deliciously about these plans, led rivers from first to fourth floor, i was simply fascinated, and i would like to see it, if the project is frozen, and it is frozen, tell me, well, today there have been conversations for a long time about the place of this... today i know, after all, the best

place, as originally it was supposed, they didn’t find it, at what stage, i know that it seems that we should return to this issue in the twenty-fourth year, to the discussion, yeah, i wanted to suggest to you, maybe you could implement these rivers for now, while the essence is completed somewhere on other platforms, what do you say about this? well you know, today in a slightly different context, but like these sharp angular rivers, we used them in khatyn, that is, this is a raised floor with one meter, it was this idea that served as the implementation of the museum, these rivers, as we said at the beginning of the program, that today we have more than 10,000 rivers and 2,000 lakes in belarus, and this is exactly our theme, belarus sign, this is history one way or another, ours is all connected, all large cities were built around rivers, all history was built around rivers, therefore, these rivers that today pierce, well, the building of the historical museum, i dream that after all... it will be realized someday, because this should be the main museum of our country, well, i also

dream, but the question is what? well, the thing is that there are probably various factors that got in the way, that is, first some kind of misunderstanding, then untimely, maybe some - well, probably a complex of factors, and of course, i think the first priority was to complete the museum quarter , which vladim ivanovich did, i think, took the main financial part of it all upon himself, but we... deserved it, i must say, of course, that’s why we give way to the older ones, well, besides the rivers, what else, what kind of fillings are there, you know, a lot of attention was paid there, of course, to modern ones. technologies that, so to speak, were used in the republic of belarus before that time, this is a lot in each innovation zone, that is, if you look at a battle there, you can take part in it wearing a helmet, that is, these are educational classes, these are questions and answers, this is the soundtrack , this is immersion due to the materials of the walls there, there is primitive society,

how it changed, you are right there you are immersed, that is, it is precisely an immersion in our history and the last one there, when we find ourselves in behind modern belarus, that is , all of our modern belarus is revealed there, in the center of the hall there is a papad flower, this is a sculpture that is stylized, and when we approach, we touch, it is blooming, that is, this is the path to happiness, every belarusian should go through this, touch it, how great it is, i would like to finally find this papyrus flower, of course you can succeed, i am sure that many artists who participated in development of this project, they are very much looking forward to it, yes. and now we ’ll take a short break, after a short pause, we’ll return to this studio again, for now subscribe to our telegram channel, say don’t be silent, look for all our episodes on the youtube channel belarus 1. in your opinion, kimpinsky and the circus in minsk, these buildings

they coexist harmoniously, well, in my opinion, no , because i’m still very much in favor of the architecture that we inherited, then this part that leads to victory square was very well thought out, i simply admired it, here i see a little bit of dissonance now, on the air again say don’t be silent, our guest is the artist klep oichik, according to the results of this year’s national award, your design project of the slutsk regional history museum won first place and victory. tell me what will happen there, well, yes , it’s very nice, because my second prize, the first one i received was for the vishnev temple, nationally, the second is in the field of design, you know, it turned out to be a very interesting museum, since i i fell in love with the slovak region very much during these 2 years, imbued completely history, i almost became

an honorary member there or some kind of uh jihar, so let’s say, yes, that is, for me it was very interesting, uh, what was most important, probably in this museum, are those people with whom i worked, those museum workers who conveyed their love for this museum, for this region, and we built the museum slowly, very thoughtfully, yes, that is, every corner there is thought out, there is no such thing accidental, each, we thought through the design of each showcase, that is, they are all different in all rooms, that is they are from primitive society to modern society, to space, where we have portholes already there with illumination in... colors, where the astronaut flies, this is a project, or you can already see it, you can already see it, we have already done it design in the year twenty-twenty, and implemented already in the twenty-second end, by the way , our colleague, svetlana borovskaya, recently visited slutsk, let’s take a look, but this is just the abc for kids, indeed, at one time vladimir samoilovich basalygo, this is again

the second half eighties past century, created a unique series of works called “mova nash”. dear, this is our belarusian alphabet, of course, i’m not begging the beautiful russian language, and we speak it, but in general, how good, beautiful, obloki, yes, here i am, the smell of apples all together, obloki, what a beautiful word, unfortunately, our dear vladimir samoilovich’s series of movs was not completed, he stopped at the letter and, uh-huh, later of course, and... in the next lives everything will be completed, probably, i’ll say optimally, and much more, optimistic svetlana borovskaya, well, as we see, the alphabet haunts many generations of artists, you also have a similar series, you deliberately pick up the theme, this series of paintings was born over the work

for the day of writing in kopol, when we asked so to speak, you can think something, we we don’t want... to install some kind of classic copper inkwell or something else, that is , he says, let ’s turn to some creative person and think that it can be creative, i looked at the number of writers, there are about 56, i looked at what letters begin their surnames, and a project with 17 letters was born, and these are art objects that are located there in the park and two benches, a qr code where you can read who the writer is, what they wrote, and so on, and when i developed it. .. design of the project, this architectural project, i wanted, why not write a letter, so a project was born with these, a pictorial project with this alphabet, it’s also curious that you also fell in love with slutsk, and solyga was also the chairman of the union of artists, several convocations, yes , but i understand that you, you

still have some kind of invisible thread connected with predecessors, what do you think, i think , a generally invisible thread, when today, at the eighty-fifth union, i am the curator and it was my personal initiative to make an exhibition, we first thought about which one to make from the funds, but there are already a lot of funds, we make our collection every year , when i took the list of all the chairmen, there are 19 chairmen, i think , i looked that all of them, except one, yes, these are personalities in art, and there was an idea to make an exhibition of the chairmen from our collection of funds in the palace of arts, this since 1938, it turned out to be an incredible project with an incredible visit to people and artists, first of all , taking advantage of their official position, well, the fact is that, well, this is really a big responsibility, this is 85 - this is a whole layer of life that they gave, they were not just good managers there, yes, they were... the belarusian union of artists should be first of all an artist or a manager? well

, we even have in the charter that there must be an artist first and foremost, a manager - these are the qualities that probably necessary in today's time, especially in modern times, just to draw beautifully or sculpt well, this is not enough today, today i can say that i combine everything, probably when i was involved in the museum, i already realized that eight professions have been added, this is well there is a multimedia specialist, there is light, a lighting designer , there and so on, i know how the air should flow, what humidity should be, what kind of display cases there are and so on, but here still today, well, that is, the chairman, what should he have, i have a crust on fire safety, on labor protection, that is, i communicate on the same note with all the staff there and so on, that is, today i have a great understanding of the system. today, well, i can calmly join the union of artists, that is, head some kind of trust and i will be no worse, well, as you say,

fu, fu, fu, i was just painting a temple, and here some one is just saying that today it’s not just an artist and a manager, yes, today it is a complex, probably these are the professions that you must combine in order to speak the same language with our colleagues, well, this is very important, of course, you will have to live with it, and valentin goborev was recently in our studio. he said that he was very relieved, a contract with a private french gallery from government orders, today we are making plans for something, and since it froze, and some kind of construction is all and you are already left without work, what do you think about, uh , whether an artist should be dependent or not, on the state, on state orders, well, today i think everyone chooses their own path, yes, that is, someone needs it like air, and someone needs free flight. but the system that was successfully implemented, today we see our stock works, which we purchased from our artists until the eighties, this is

really very important, because the large formats raised very interesting topics, their disclosures, yes, that is, this , well, today i can say that you won’t even see such formats at exhibitions, so it is necessary, we need to return to this practice like air, and we have already successfully taken the first steps for this with the ministry of culture, i think next year we will be even bigger. turnover in this regard, you will buy from artists all the time in order to give a theme, that is , to select the best sketch works, then give them, well, an agreement, a contract, so that they write specifically, that is, specifically, well, specifically give the work, well secondly, i would like, of course, to return to this soviet practice, by the way, no one abolished it at the legislative level, i don’t know why it dissolved, it’s 1-2% of the construction project, it doesn’t matter if there’s a residential building or a kindergarten or a hospital there, uh, to have it on monumental and artistic design , so that we still instill this taste of childhood, so that a person who

is immersed in the environment, yes, so that he looks at beautiful landscapes, at human work, at historical themes, because this visual series, so or else, it will still work, but what do you personally see as your role in the dialogue between artists and power? well, today i want to be so to speak, well , not a switch, most likely a bridge , probably the bridge that connects and so that today this dialogue simply develops, was widely developed, discussed, because today we, let’s say, are already asking for the eighth letter, let’s say our colleagues support that the chairman of the union should sit down at the collegium table so that he can convey information, because we have the largest influential union, i would like there to be more dialogue, yes, and indeed, that we would be heard, that we would be heard, and that this would only be for our benefit. country, our state, for years now we have been writing a letter asking the chairmen of the union to sit at the table of the board of the ministry of culture, well, yes, that is, this is what we are talking about, today you are not

present there, but this is strange, indeed, and in the same way, it seems to me, the code on culture was edited, but there are things that are missing in this code, yes, i think that here it is necessary to reveal even more deeply the concept of what creative activity is, yes , that is, to the maximum of it , well, so that there is a concept, yes, that is, i think that more attention needs to be paid to patriotic education, yes, that is, just i would still like this to be included in the code correction to what i said about monumental propaganda, yes, so that it does return. us in the right sense of the word, because for me, let’s say, it’s very painful when i see an unprofessional painting of a mural, when i receive a million calls, as you allowed this to happen, that is, we have mosaic works that we knock down, yes, we still don’t have a register where we would list all this and at least somehow protect it, well , that is, because when people plaster over a gorgeous mosaic out of ignorance,

yes, that is, for me this is a crime, today i will never be able to come to terms with it. and you have been teaching at the belarusian state academy of arts for many years, please tell me, do you easily find a common language with young people? today it ’s not just being a teacher, today i’m like an attending physician, that is, you need to make a diagnosis and not tell them how to treat it, because they must be creative individuals, you are afraid to give your method to them or make everyone the same, what’s the problem here? i don't want them to be similar and think like i, they must learn to think, that is, i say mistakes, but i don’t say how to correct them, that is, well, i don’t... i refuse if i see a helpless student, yes, well, you take the pencil, the piquant situation is that among your son has students, he is studying to become a sculptor, do you think he will become a great artist? well, i’m glad that my dream is coming true, i once wanted to become a sculptor, but i think that time will tell, as a child, i know you made a dragon, and this became your first commercial work, because it was as good as you said, you were

always good at sculpting, even at school age, in the second grade, right? yes , in the second grade and you, uh, showed it to your classmates , in my opinion, they wanted to have it too, and you exchanged condensed milk for two cans of condensed milk, what am i saying, nothing happens by chance in our lives, and well, i don’t even mean that, so that i wouldn’t suggest doing this, yes, but the man himself just came up and said, what do you like, i say, well, there’s condensed milk, there you’re ready to exchange it for a can, i say, no, for one no, for one. there was already a manager then, yes, gleb anatolyevich, and i remind you that the year of the dragon is coming, tell us what you will ask the dragon for, and what we can expect from the dragon, what kind of beast this is, i always have this association when we we are talking about the dragon, yes, it takes us more to the east, yes, these are our chinese partners, i

think it is very significant that the last trip, which took place in august, was a working visit. ten days, eight cooperation agreements were signed, ranging from institutes to the union of artists and museums, and today we have a very large program to popularize belarusian art and joint steps in this direction, so we are planning a large exhibition in our palace of arts, this is a chinese-belarusian exhibition and a reciprocal one in beijing, plus we have a lot of small projects, which we have planned, that is, for implementation throughout the country, because we visited both the south and the north of changchun city, and beijing , and therefore, in the year of the dragon , we go to the east as much as possible, well, great, because we are resuming this again, yes these connections, they once upon a time there were, i remember vladimir ivanovich every time he flew somewhere, to china, this is the former director of an art museum, then they were really waiting for us there, then there was some kind of pause, probably with covid with you, covid yes, they closed completely borders, although we managed to produce already, they were still closed,

but we held an exhibition in shanghai, and now we are already... proud that we have implemented three projects, but you sculpted the dragon, how to handle it, what to prepare for in new year, well, today is a dragon, in fact it’s unpredictable, yes, but everything is here, everything is here there is fire, there is also fear , there is hope, there is victory, that is, today it unites a lot of qualities, i think that today there is no need to be afraid, we need to be confident, so that the most important thing, it seems to me, the goal of art today is that there are no indifferent people, this fire in the eyes is the main thing. support him and that he never gas, well, i am impressed by your courage, i heard today that you and the prefects were in your student years, in general, there is nothing surprising in the fact that you headed such a complex union, i don’t see it now, we wish you only gleb anatorevich, patience, good luck on your creative path, may everything work out as you planned, thank you for meeting today, tatyana

sherbina, victoria popova, we say goodbye to you, goodbye. goodbye, and now gleb otchik speaks. i would like to congratulate our dear colleagues on their anniversary. today is a beautiful date for the union of artists, 85 years old, we wish them new achievements, new ones. creative victories for the benefit of our country and state. we cannot release the artist without an autograph on the painting by gleb anatolych. write to us briefly your wishes and sign. thank you.

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, stretch the entire front line of the body, you need to try to jump on your full foot on bent knees to protect the knee joint , watch the breakfast of the champion program on the belarus 24 tv channel!

live broadcast of the main news at noon, in the studio olga kalayirova, hello and briefly about the topics of the issue.