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author, national writer and hero of kyrgyzstan, a photo book exhibition was opened there. the exhibition presents novels, stories and short stories, as well as plays by the writer. his works have been set to music more than once; unesco considers his books the most read in the world after the works of shakespeare and tolstoy. if we talk about the scale of creativity, we can look at the numbers to say that his works have been translated.
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by this time, my colleagues will add information in the following issues, but at this point i say goodbye to you, all the best, hello, i am authorized to announce on the air of the saz program, i am its presenter nadezhda sas, i greet you. let me remind you that this is a program for those who want to better understand what is happening and understand how these processes, events, people will affect the life of the country of each of us. donbass: 9 years of war. this is exactly the theme of today’s program, in which we will talk about those who pushed for this war. those who exterminated their own population and those who tried in every possible way to fight this war. stop about people
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who are eyewitnesses of the current ukrainian drama. and ours the main task is to track the cause-and-effect relationship of the processes surrounding us today. but first, let's tell you about the main events in world politics this week. president of belarus alexander lukashenko visited china on a working visit, which became his second trip to beijing this year. during a meeting with chinese president sidzenping, alexander lukashenko announced a historic increase in the level. relations between the two states, recognizing for the first time that their rapprochement is based on a commonality of ideologies, not limited to the development of trade and economic relations, beijing and minsk are joining forces to change the system of global governance, promising to support minsk in opposing external interference, beijing is integrating belarus into its projects, the belt and road and the community of a common destiny for humanity. the belarusian leader’s two-day visit to beijing, the main event of which was negotiations on monday.
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government residence with chinese president sidinping continued the unprecedented rapprochement of the two countries, caused not only by interest in developing business ties, but by increasingly conflicting geopolitics. disagreements between democrats and republicans could derail aid to israel and ukraine. the us democratic and republican parties have failed negotiations in an attempt to reach an agreement to consider a border security and control bill. with the migration crisis to reconcile president joe biden's request for additional funding to ukraine, israel and taiwan. republicans are threatening to block biden's request for security and foreign aid without adequate immigration changes. all attempts by political opponents to reach an agreement ended in deep disagreements. on december 6, a former ukrainian deputy was killed in the moscow region. yakiva, an unknown person
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shot him with an unidentified weapon, the politician died on the spot from his wounds, an investigation is currently underway, and a criminal case has been opened into the incident. the speaker of the main intelligence directorate of the ministry of defense of ukraine, andrey yusov, also confirmed that kiva was killed. prior to this , the ukrainian telegram channel union, citing sources, reported that the former deputy of the was liquidated by the ukrainian security service. two weeks before his death, the ex-detail of the rada spoke. that the khimprom drug cartel has been operating in ukraine for several years. according to him, this criminal group produces a huge amount of synthetic drugs, which are distributed not only within the country, but throughout the eu and cis countries. ukrainian scenario for belarus at the end of november, the so-called belarusian opposition gathered in kiev for a thematic conference called path to freedom - reports belarusian belta publications. the key
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sponsor was the foundation of the american financier george soros, and members of the terrorist organization kalinowski's regiment were responsible for execution. the strategy was discussed at the conference. the liberation of belarus refers to the specific plan that the ukrainian special services are offering to fugitive radicals. volunteer battalions seize a district or districts of the brest region and declare themselves supposedly legitimate authorities there. there they should supposedly be supported by supporters of change in belarus. ukraine itself recognizes this power in these territories as legitimate, leads its troops and joins nato. thus, part of belarus will be captured, which will entail. war in the country, why ukraine today should go for a new round of aggravation of relations with belarus remains in question. and i would like to recall one extensive quote from vladimir putin’s historic speech on february 21, 2022. as
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a result of the bolshevik policy , soviet ukraine arose, which today can rightfully be called ukraine named after vladimir ilyevich lenin. he is its author and architect. is fully confirmed by archival documents, including lenin’s strict directives on donbass, which were literally squeezed into ukraine. at the same time , the russian president promised to show what real decommunization means for ukraine. but if donbass as part of ukraine really turned out to be the will of one person, then it took a long time and painfully for its inhabitants to lose this region. about how the right-western authorities in kiev cut off donbass from ukraine. and how their criminal policy led to the current one the big war will be discussed in today's program, i am glad to welcome you. in our studio there is radion valerievich miroshnik, ambassador-at-large for the crimes of the kiev regime of the ministry of the russian federation. hello. good afternoon. also in our studio today is oleg sergeevich
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gaidukevich, deputy of the house of representatives of the national assembly of the republic of belarus, chairman of the liberal democratic party of belarus. glad to see you. by tradition , we are starting our program. question addressed to each of the guests present: who, in your opinion, is the most guilty of the ukrainian politicians for the donbass tragedy, because we are talking about the regime, and the specific ukrainian regime, the kiev government, who in your opinion was the point of befurcation, who contributed to this, there are no such people among ukrainian politicians, they everyone was hired. politicians, starting from leonid kuchma, who signed an agreement with nato, yushchenko, who further developed and said that ukraine should join nato, cleared the donbass of all military units of the ukrainian army, poroshenko, who blessed the bombing of lugansk and donetsk,
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zelensky, who essentially unleashed a period of escalation, that is, military action to destroy donbass, which of them is more to blame, this is already a collective responsibility, this is certainly collective. the entire regime. olek sergeevich, how do you like me to support my colleague, because you can’t destroy any country with an apology if it is strong inside. belarus is an example of this, no matter how much we were not pumped for 30 years, we had a huge external attempt to destroy our state, but it did not work. therefore everything is up one ukrainian leader, starting with the collapse of the ussr, at the beginning they led the country to the events of the fourteenth year, but it was their fault that these events happened, their fault, starting. if this is what i remember, what could, maybe , be the third round of the presidential election, and yushchenko is president there, this is already a violation of the constitution, this was the first such key collapse for me, although there were many of these stages, then the maidan, not a single one there there is no leader who would not be to blame for that blood, for
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those deaths, for those events that took place there happened, and the west, yes, the west, but if there weren’t these corrupt politicians, there weren’t traitors, there weren’t those people who didn’t think about the national interests of ukraine. but i was thinking exclusively about my money, that ’s the truth, money, money, money, nothing more, these events that are happening now would not have happened, the conflict in donbass itself needed and could have been resolved peacefully and, above all, through the implementation of agreements , named after the capital of belarus, it was necessary and possible, if only this conflict, those who are losing global hegemony was not considered a point of no return, the passage of which would mean the decline of western dominance. by prolonging this war, they are delaying the transition to a new system of international relations, gaining time for themselves, and completely different people paying for it with their lives. we will recall the details of those dramatic events in our story, we look together: for 9 years there has been no peaceful sky over donbass, this
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bloody, deadly story began back in april 2014. then the militia seized the sbu building in lugansk and the regional building administration. participation in the festive procession for victory day. civilians, pensioners who took
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armed clashes began in the city, ukrainian security forces opened fire on later there was an assault on slavyansk, an attack by kiev aviation on donetsk airport, a missile strike on the building of the former lugansk regional state administration. then the battle for ilovaisk, the bombing of snezhny and novoazovsk. in belarus , events are being monitored. with pain and offered their own version of the development of events. the minsk agreements were supposed to end the hot phase conflict, and a ceasefire in the belarusian capital was agreed upon in 2015 by the normandy four, the leaders of france, germany, russia and ukraine. the document was signed, but recently it turned out that not everyone planned to comply with the conditions. merkel admitted that the minsk agreements were only a delay for kiev to build up its military resources. they are with poroshenko.
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if this is so, it is not so, but if so, why then moan that there is a war, you were preparing for it, a series of negotiations and meetings continued, belovezhskaya pushcha saw several rounds or attempts to find a compromise, they tried to come to an agreement, in particular on humanitarian corridors, but as it later became clear, they existed only on paper. the ukrainian side, following the results of the third round of negotiations, which took place at the beginning of march 22, stated:
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that the situation will change, hope, thank you for
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the question, in fact, everything you just asked about, everything that alexander grigorievich spoke about in my interview in this fragment of this interview, and the maidan, which you recalled today in the studio, is all a link in one chain, and you cannot talk about one thing, because all this is very interconnected, everything is very complex, very simple at the same time, and if i say it in literally two sentences... then what happened? this is what the president of belarus has now voiced in this fragment, this is a consequence of what happened exactly 10 years ago, on the maidan, where i was every day, like... 10 years later, yes, i really got to donbass, i really wanted to do this was earlier, but then it was impossible, because i was responsible not only for myself, but for my colleagues, imagine that a ukrainian journalist who represents the ukrainian media goes to donbass, returning at that time was impossible, i often repeat, we all do not understand, in fact,
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this is the horror of the entire degree of censorship and dictatorship that then... reigned in ukraine, which now is completely unprecedented, that now donbass, all these years until february 24, donbass was such a variable, such a variable in the equation, what will happen to ukraine, because how this conflict was resolved depended on it, in particular safety ukraine, not only ukraine , today security in other countries, today depends on what... is happening in ukraine, perhaps, and this will be said loudly, but it depends on security on the entire continent, today in ukraine they still talk about borders of the ninety-first year, that they want to return donbass, and you know very well that all of this, unfortunately, is the most terrible hypocrisy, no one cares about those people, they don’t even care about those territories, but that’s the
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official line, that’s exactly what it is, what impressed me most in donbass, i can talk endlessly, this is a very complex question. but perhaps i, as a person who can compare, who was in kiev on february 24, and the first six months after all this began, who himself experienced a huge war, hatred and everything that happened, attacks, and i don’t want to remember all this, i feel the anger that i felt towards myself, as a person who simply wanted peace, towards other dissidents, hope, you also know about this, i didn’t see all this in donbass and when i... here i was just asking i approached people on the street when i asked them, what would you say to people in kiev and kharkov, if i had the opportunity to address them, i did not hear a single word of hatred, not a single word of hatred, which, unfortunately you can’t say about people in other cities, in lvov, even kharkov, odessa and
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so on, to sum it up, what i want to say, and this is very important, i... would like the audience of your program to pay attention to this, i saw , like a small group of people, i worked on the maidan in an office that i was on khreshchatyk 5, it was practically on the maidan, like 10-20 people who came out there to cheerful music, and then they killed and ruined the country, i saw how all this was ignited, i understand, very well, i know how the flame is ignited, and what am i saying, it’s very easy to fool people’s heads... it’s very easy to get people into their heads for what is good and bright, especially such segments of the population as the youth there , who are always for change, the intelligentsia, who are always against, and permanently, this very easy, these are very simple technologies, and you are hope, you know how this is done , stay with us, just a minute, radion
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valerievich, not so long ago in the telegram channel you wrote that a non-healing memorial was opened in lugansk...
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so they methodically drove out ukrainian guns, set them up and hit them, there it was 7:00 pm , and the shelling started, people were dying in the streets, they were just falling, which means they couldn’t be pulled out, yes, that is, because while the shelling was going on, that means the person was there... there was just a corpse lying there people, then they collected people, which means they dug mass graves, because, well, the person was just passing through, she had no documents or anything, a huge number of people were simply buried without a trace,
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these are missing people, then it means work was done and today this memorial appeared, where these people were taken, they worked as hard as possible to to identify these people, today there is this memorial, today this number is visible, this is the fourteenth year, the fourteenth, the fifteenth year, when when neither kiev nor lviv approximately. didn’t even understand what was happening in donbass, they they didn’t understand at all that what crimes turchynov was committing, what crimes he was committing, poroshenko was committing , that is, they were all their rulers, it was all good, at that time these shellings began, just openly killing people began, these people today they, today, that is, everyone who now comes to the territory of the lpr, yes, that is , considers it their duty to come to this memorial, at least bow to the memory of these people, because they were the first to fall victims, this is the first victim. in the ukrainian constitution
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, the army cannot be used within the country, as in many other countries, turchynov did what they sent to war and decided to kill people living in these territories, and before that yushchenko withdrew from the territory of the then luhansk region, donetsk region, identified all military units, not a single military unit remained on the territory of the lpr, on the territory of lugansk. someone still believes that this was a spontaneous, spontaneous attack, oh stop it, oh leave it, that is, there were formed, that is, when the troops arrived , i met them myself, i met in 1914 with the troops who were driven into the donbass and the boys were afraid to shoot, they just let them in, walked around with machine guns, with grenades under their bags, they were afraid to twitch, because that there were similar people, then they gathered them on turchinov’s instructions. brigades, which later received the name right sector, they, they recruited nazis, they recruited repeat offenders, everything is possible, they released them under these obligations of their prisons, so they sent them to kill, these already
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came to kill. diana, we often hear the term genocide, especially in the ukrainian media, which try to explain the actions of the russian federation using this very term. why, knowing about the crimes that have been committed since 2014. i asked people in donbass about what was happening in kiev, this question was absolutely sincere, aren’t you offended that representatives of the world’s media do not come here, that they
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are not interested, that people are also dying here and have been dying all these years, and the biggest hypocrisy for me, believe me, i won’t stop talking about it to repeat that today in ukraine the return of donbass has been elevated to a cult in national politics, because yes... everything that ukraine lives with today, for now, although there is an incredible, severe hangover there today, this is the border of the ninety-first year, the border 1991, again , which no one cared about, kiev was having fun, dancing, people were drinking prosek, smoking hookahs, while the donbass was being shelled, you say the genocide of ukrainians, why tell me, please, then in the post-national war there are millions ukrainians left. russia and belarus, what kind of genocide is this, why is no one destroying these ukrainians in russia and belarus , no one killing them, and why is no one talking about this, and in general it’s not
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customary to talk about these people, so we say, how many went to europe, so we say how many went to some other countries, but we don’t talk about these people, because this is all technology, absolutely technology, and from one word yes, genocide, beating, barbarism and so on, it depends how people perceive it later social networks , in which they spend today... 7-9 hours a day, this is how we got an incredible, monstrous situation, double standards, when the deaths of some are important, the deaths of others, unfortunately, are not, by the way, vladimir zelensky not so long ago he said that it would be more difficult for ukraine to return donbass than crimea due to the fact that local residents fought against the ukrainian armed forces, it could happen, quote, that we will return the territory before these people, if, for example, we take donbass.
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options for these events not to happen, me too as a deputy was in donbass, i am one of those deputies who was in donbass, i have several conclusions too, i talked with these people, the first thing i was surprised by, and it moved me to tears, they ran to the car when they saw belarusian flag, they thanked us for what, i didn’t understand why, they said: you are happy people, you live in the country, take care, take care, they thanked our president for the fact that many now really have found shelter here in belarus,
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work, live . and we will never behave differently, never here in belarus have not and will not divide by language , by nationality, we will always help, the second thing i understood is that donbass will never be there again, never, the point of no return has been passed, i have not found a single person there who would want this, so many so much blood has been shed that it’s not even worth talking about, i’m now worried about something else, how much more will there be blood on faces, how many more will there be in graves? when i read the news from kiev now, total mobilization, yes, we know that there will be many more killed, but we will go, knowing that nothing will happen, how can we ruin own population, knowing that there will be no results, this is the most scary thing, when i watch our president, how many times he met with a respected journalist who has connections with us, and before that, how many statements he made, what predictions of the president did not come true, which ones, all of them came true? so he
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is now saying that based on these new events, if this continues, it will only end with thousands more lying in their graves, and there will be no one to mobilize, for what, this is scary, but you know the most criminal, like zelensky, everyone who sits in kiev knows about this, they know that they will not win, that’s the worst thing, what people lie, do, if they even believed in their hearts that there would be victory, i would then could understand, but they know that they will lose, they know that... that there will be no victory, and people are thrown into slaughter, that’s what’s scary, and donbass will not return, vladislav surkov’s column came out so long ago, i’ll read a fragment: many on the bank street three secretly dream of minsk, and there will be no minsk, russia has long ceased to exist a mediator patiently sorting out the neighbor 's squabble, russia is now an impatient participant in the big struggle, which will take its toll, and
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of course, pagans, next year will be the year... of degradation and disorganization of the ukrainian dummy state, quite harshly, but truthfully, radion valerievich, minsk has always acted as a platform , a negotiation room, a platform for searching for compromises, alexander lukashenko took every possible action in order to ensure peace on ukrainian soil, neither the ukrainian authorities nor their curators, again, wanted this, do you think it can? the situation really goes in a different direction, do you believe in minsk-3, or is there rather no faith that the participants in this negotiation process will keep their word, because how many times have we said from the mouths of those who took part in the normandy format meetings, that we were liars, it was all profanation, you know, you started with the fact that minsk did a lot to organize the negotiation process, here i am as
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a person who... took part in the negotiations, only officially i was probably in minsk 150 times , on head-to-head bets negotiations, i can say that donbass treats with great reverence and gratitude the actions that the government in belarus took to organize this process, it was organized impeccably, from the point of view of integrity in terms of organizing the process, and so on. another problem was that there was a side that didn’t need it, it wasn’t going to agree on anything, they were just stalling for time, they were doing something outright. nationally, we spent hours, tens of hours discussing commas, phrases, there are options and everything else, it was just a blatant delay in time, but it was a global attempt to create conditions for coexistence, to determine the option of how kiev could coexist and how donbass could coexist, that is, it is clear that we were working out options , how we will defend ourselves from the kiev regime, which ones are local, what functions
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will be of local self-government, how will there be what... will there be an amnesty, what political rules and so on, that is, yes, there was a global, global interest somehow regulate the process, but it was used for something completely different, not to regulate it, but to pump up ukraine. during the evacuation , we had children, elderly people, parents taken out, we had to be taken out, because we understood that it was at least five times larger than the number of the army there, which stood before the line of combat contact, which would simply demolish both donetsk and lugansk , yes, that is, if at that moment russia had not declared a special military
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operation, if it had not recognized donetsk and lugansk, look at the middle east, look, yes, that is, it would be one on one, ukraine would destroy both donetsk and lugansk, look at the footage of gaza, look at what exactly is happening. the un said that he saw for himself how the ukrainian armed forces attacked a university in the market in donetsk using american missiles, i think it’s worth hearing a direct speech right now. i went to donbass, took a train to
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rostov, then took an armored vehicle to donetsk and mariupol. when we arrived, what did i see there when i arrived? the first thing i saw was a university that was being attacked with missiles from the united states. the staff cared for the wounded. carried out the dead. 20 minutes later the same place came under fire again. in order for the damage to be maximum for the people who helped the victims. i saw this on the very first day. on the second day i saw an open air market similar to what we have here at union square. women displayed flowers on the eve of the holiday. i covered this event. i saw the missiles hit right there. i arrived there in a few hours. they fired rockets at a civilian target. from usa hymars, i talked to the women , i asked how you decided to put flowers again, they said this is our land, you can kill us, they don't care about us, they attack civilian targets to intimidate us and expel from our land
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and take our resources. diana, we have to say goodbye to you, since you have limited time, but i really hope that the ukrainian audience sees us, hears us, and i would like ... you to contact them and do you believe, that this long-suffering, bloody land will really find long-awaited peace? here was footage of your negotiations in istanbul, where i saw mr. arakhamia, who recently said in an interview, already directly said what many knew, what the president of belarus told me in particular in an interview, that peace could be achieved back then in march, and...
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what happened even then, nothing, they threw it everywhere now, today, you noticed what kind of story is unfolding around the counter-offensive, they say that it was psychological attack , today every american general in nato
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knows that it is impossible to defeat russia militarily, they need to prolong the war as long as possible and solve their problems, they succeed, europe is being weakened, look what europe turns into during conflicts, europe suffers the most union , so today they will force another mobilization, they will still send assistance, but it will be less, more, such missiles will come, such missiles, they know that russia will never... only their national interests, understanding
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that some kind of calm, a freeze, not a complete solution to the problems, will not bring anything good for russia and for belarus, as russia’s main ally, the problem must be solved once and for all, this is my opinion. i remind you on the air of the program sas is authorized to declare donbass 9 years of war. so long ago there was news that the russian ministry of defense and a number of other departments are discussing the creation of a structure that would document the crime of the kiev regime, ukrainian troops against the civilian population, violation of international humanitarian law you are right, radion valerievich, tell us in more detail about this, if there is such a possibility, look, firstly, from the point of view of the foreign policy department of introducing such a position as ambassador for special assignments for crimes.
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there are operational centers, there are defense headquarters everywhere, there are monitoring centers everywhere that record this data, records again through the investigative committee, the prosecutor general's office, the ministry of health records its own ministry of emergency relations, its own emergency situations, then there is all this happening, that is, nothing is in vain, but probably at the moment, you know, during the second world war in 1943, a state emergency was created. committee, and this committee was,
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which included dr. burdenko, which included the writer alexei tolstoy, and there were many other respected people, the task of this emergency committee was to collect and record all the facts of the crimes of nazism at that time , now, and this is a single base, a single whole, such an array, which was later used by the soviet union to bring charges during the tribunal in nuremberg, now... it seems that the time has already come when we need a single database, which is now using digital technologies, of course, with recording there audiovisual means, documentation, creation of a database that will be unified, universal for all services, which on the one hand are investigative bodies that conduct their investigations, which collect according to protocols and rules evidence, these crimes are proven , there are politicians, there are information specialists, who today we still do not know, what is more important at what moment, because now on international platforms... representatives of the russian foreign ministry, this is the osce, this is the
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un security council, this is the council on human rights, and there are many, many others and dozens of embassies that are located in a whole number of, well, in the vast majority of states on planet earth, so they are faced with issues of crimes of the kiev regime, they must have a full-fledged, completely reliable information, not the fakes that ukraine is spreading today, not the fakes that the western media are feeding today, but fully proven crimes that can be presented. for which the political leadership of ukraine will ultimately be responsible. in what format? this will now be determined. this is a political issue. believe me, the closer it is to the end of the operation, the closer it will be to ours. victory, the sooner politicians will come to a consensus on what exactly the tribunal will be, what there will be a trial at which a verdict will be made, where the facts of crimes will be presented to the whole world and what responsibility will zelensky, yarmak, reznikov, and further down the list, all these characters who contributed to the murder of a huge number of people, the destruction of ukraine, the sale
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interests of this state, so this process is now quite actively, dynamically developing, now there are discussions on how, how this will be formalized... this is the second question, but the fact that the process is now underway and the fact that it will work not only on the judicial procedural track, but on the political and information track, that is, this is also an absolute fact, that is, people who see all this, who participate, they must have full data that what’s happening is how many hospitals have been destroyed , how many children have died, what old people have come under fire, how many prisoners of war there were and how they were abused, how many politically motivated prisoners are now in ukrainian prisons, that’s it.
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territory of the republic of belarus, how children get happy days and minutes in donbass, we’ll see in our story. on instructions from the president, belarus continues to accept donbass children for rehabilitation. guys from war zones understand like no one else. the value of a peaceful life and clear skies, students and volunteers who welcome guests in minsk are ready to share their childhood with them, along with activists of the alexei talai charitable foundation, he organizes the recreation and rehabilitation of donbass children with the support of the union secretary of state states. we became very close friends with some of the guys,
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i really don’t want to move, i don’t want to move at all, as our mother said, home is where your family is, our family is here, which means our home is here too, i liked everything, which is very... very cool, we went to the water park, went to belovezhskaya pushcha, everything was so kind-hearted, so touching that we didn’t even expect. for children from donbass, a holiday in belarus is an opportunity not only to feel safe, but to finally just be children. it's a pity that not everyone understands this; moreover, they are not ashamed to accuse russia and belarus of stealing children. the children are not to blame for anything, and we agreed.
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there is still unrest on the territory of donbass; children affected by military operations continue to come to rest in belarus, where they feel better and calmer than at home. oleg sergeevich, how was it possible to distort the truth so much, to pervert it, because today the republic of belarus really does.
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work in particular when the west now accuses russia of stealing children, deporting children, then here is the latest data that is announced on international platforms, ukraine says: we returned 300-odd children, but it was not ukraine that returned, but the russian obbudsman for children found, but paid for the travel of the parents, found them, checked their genetic data, we compared documents very often in minsk on the site. there was a process of transferring these children to ukrainian parents or relatives, and this all happened on the initiative of the russian commissioner for human rights
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marya alekseevna lvova-beloeva, that’s it, that is, here is the difference, but ukraine says: “we found them, we saved them.” who found it? you, what did you have to do with this? you had nothing at all, that is, not a single child whose parents are in ukraine, who wants to reunite with his family, no one is detaining him anywhere, they were rescued from sub-ukrainian shelling, they were taken out of mariupol, they were taken out.
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never lived in peace, just never, that’s when i understand these feelings, when we bring them to the moscow region, they still can’t get used to the plane flying nearby for a few more days, therefore, i perfectly understand the feelings of these who are eight, who are seven, yes, they are never children, parents, who are accepted by friendly belarus, which accepts, hugs, feeds, treats, so it says that...
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that the ukrainian government has committed such a number of horrific crimes against its own citizens, and today ukrainian society must understand who is right, who is wrong, who led to what, was this cause-and-effect relationship discussed initially today? unfortunately there are two moment: the first result of everything was clear from the beginning, how it began, its result was clear from the beginning, i remember our president. who says: i called zelensky, he called, he told me many times, you say what you are doing in general, sit down, negotiate,
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talk, you didn’t listen, today i again remember our president. he now says that he is telling the truth, any war always ends in negotiations, the question is how many people will go to their graves, and how many ukrainians will die before everything equally, the task of denationalization , which means the destruction of fascism , will be fulfilled, they will be fulfilled, the question is how many more people will go to the grave, i would like it to be fewer, but the fact that ukraine will be... the ukraine that we all dream of , i know this, i believe it, as a person who is connected with it by roots, by blood, because my grandmother, my relatives have always lived in odessa, and for me this country was native and will be native, and i know that the people there are wonderful, good, brotherly, friendly, and what is there scoundrels are in power, bad luck, i think this problem will be solved, radionvalich,
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i give you the final word on today’s program, you know, when you we... we are now massively discussing options for minsk , three negotiations that are pushing, so you know, negotiations will definitely take place , negotiations, the whole clash will definitely end with negotiations, but negotiations are clearly not with puppets, it is clear that negotiations should be conducted with people who themselves admit it, then johnson arrived and said we won’t agree on anything, and we took let's pretend to do it, well, you really think that you can negotiate something with them, so the west has not shown any desire yet. "guys, here are the conditions , we must agree on them, then we will be able to coexist normally between the west and the east , the russian world, the western world, this is how we can do it, but what is now, and we will return to this, we will definitely we will return to this as soon as the conditions are ripe, when the sponsors run out of steam, when political
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ambitions subside, when the ukrainian people finally understand that..." the power that is in ukraine today is not the ukrainian government, you know, the power that says: guys, you speak the wrong language, you don’t belong, you come from the wrong history, you study there, you go to the wrong church, wait , so maybe this power is not from there, maybe this power is not from this people, maybe it plays, but according to other rules, they do not correspond to the interests of the people who live in this territory, everything will definitely come to peace, it will all end , but unfortunately, for now everything will be bloody thus, while we have reached... we are at this peak, and we will liberate the territory of ukraine, because for now i really don’t see any options for coexistence with this regime, unfortunately, this means that any preservation of the influence of the morenet regime in this territory guarantees that the war will return to our home very, very soon, no matter how much we freeze it, so now we are talking specifically about denazification, about demilitarization, about ensuring that this territory is given to the interests of those people who live there, and not
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imposed on external regimes. thanks a lot. i won’t hide that this was a very difficult discussion for me, not just as a ukrainian, but also as a native of the lugansk region on my mother’s side, i visited kamashevakha many times as a child, popasno, and other towns and villages that were not spared by the war, instead of the usual quotes and analytical conclusions, simply using the right of a leader, i wish all my fellow countrymen that peace will come to them soon, let politicians and diplomats deal with the rest. thank you, it was the sazu powers program. state current the ukrainian drama was generated by many years of ignoring the donbass tragedy.
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secrets of good morning and good mood! good morning belarus! on the air of tv channel belarus 1 of the channel's satellites. belarus 24, good morning program belarus , my name is svetlana borovskaya, warm, you won’t even treat the legs of those who hurt, this is vitta’s living fur, i know that this is vitta ’s fur, thank you very much,
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you’re not bored here that's all, it's mom and dad forcing you, no, meeting amazing people, hello, oh, hello, oh, hello, we are glad to see you, but not everyone is given such suits that come here, they are beautiful, but how many? you wake up, today at 4:30 , great, it’s our time, and there’s also a lot of useful and interesting information, from such a square you get this kind of circle, all the time there were these machines, you only have girls, no, there are also boys, there are boys, there are fewer boys, of course, of course, there are fewer boys, as always, look at the ballerina, how she froze, putting on the plan, how you froze, no longer sitting, already waiting for us for three hours, here in in this position, please, if i entered, i must stand up and say: hello, what is his name? alex, what is his middle name? alex, like me, alekseevna! watch good ranitsa belarus with svetlana borovskaya on the
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belarus 24 tv channel. the tv news agency presents. in the public domain. we have no secrets from our people. once in the winter, january 1st received one-time pear aid and
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free shopping tickets for everything. many of them have been going on for thousands of months. former farmhand anna trafimauna kunets there are a lot of calras, which are more and more common in belarus. and the people who were lost in the light on the crystal of ivan koshar, who do not know the fate of argentina, are returning to their native meats. there is a lot to be said here, it is necessary to hutchey pabudavat yashche adzin kalgasny light. this time ivan kosher is busy with his family.

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