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belarus. hello, information and analytical project, a current microphone on air on the belarusian radio, tv channel belarus 24, with you the presenter andrei sych, as well as our guest, political scientist yuri voskresensky. hello, i can’t wait to discuss a number of important news, yuri and i just had aesthetic pleasure before the broadcast. that news who come from our brotherly poland, donald tusk remains one of the main music makers at the moment in our region, setting a certain pace in cooperation with the former ruling power on the territory of the polish state, an investigation was opened against two former officials, a criminal case, as far as i understand, they decided to hide in the residence of their

patron, the current president. andrzej duda, and a very curious situation occurred: andrzej duda went away for a while to meet with a certain svetlana tikhanovskaya, during this at that moment, representatives of law enforcement agencies, accompanied by the presidential security service, entered his residence and detained the ex-minister of internal affairs, as far as i

understand, his assistant. police officers and arrested them on a court warrant, which was issued on january 8, that is , these subjects have sins, they were. polish relations, and we emphasize , once again, we call on the new government of poland to overload relations with belarus and begin to build a normal, constructive dialogue based on economic and other

preferences, benefits, mutual benefits , which means that as regards, that is, this is the first moment, yes, the continuation of the internal political struggle, the second point, the losing party of justice, duda, morawiecki, kaczynski, does not respect the law, that is, it has demonstrated, this is unthinkable , when two criminals are hiding in the presidential residence, this is some kind of banana republic, well, even in africa, it seems to me, they don’t do this anymore, there are probably no states where this would be possible, poland is positioning itself as such a stronghold democracy and values, but this is simply how much damage to the image in general and the state system of poland and directly. two criminals are hiding from a court decision in the presidential residence, i know this

, which reminded me how at a certain moment our fugitives tried to hide on the territory of embassies of different states, on the territory of belarus, they were then taken out in trunks without memory, plus or minus the same situation, only here, probably... there were plans to remove andrze duda from this residence, so i don’t know these officials in the trunk somewhere in the direction of germany, but it’s also unlikely, after they ruined all relations, it’s not even clear where to take these two characters, well, they probably really planned to hide them from justice more deeply after duda's return from a meeting with representatives of the fugitive belarusian opposition,

but this did not happen, in general everything that... living in belarus is funny, i liked kaczynski's statement on this matter, this grandfather who falls asleep on big, which means they tell us about the meetings of the polish sejm, he came to the podium and said that the propaganda that is now coming from the screens of polish television is very much reminiscent of the narratives that were in poland for 8 years, but in the other direction, what's this? because all these provocations that were organized by representatives, including the polish special services, they have a double-edged side, now they are faced with the same thing, they now do not know what to do with

television, or what to do with their own called the opposition, but for some reason we do not see constitutional interaction within the framework of parliament, but we simply see the defeat

of the winning side, defeat. preserved country, state, and it seems to me that in general it is being rewarded according to its deserts, here, it is also interesting, your opinion regarding this split in polish society, it has been for probably 8 years already, well, it is clearly recorded, that duda won the elections, in my opinion, with a margin of victory over his, well, second candidate, with a difference of 3%, if i’m not mistaken, this figure is somehow persecutes... the polish state, the fugitive

opposition, and so, over the course of these eight years, polish society, it has grouped into two equal, approximately such parts of society that enter into such a tough confrontation with each other, here is lech walenza during the election campaign in the sejm has already repeatedly said that poland is on the verge of a civil war, what do you think about this, whether it could lead to such a confrontation, because the forces at the moment are, well, approximately equal. one parts of polish society behind it, the president , who represents, continues to represent the very ruling party of law and justice, this is the once opposition structure headed by donald tusk at the moment, and if earlier it was in the media space, today we see this confrontation already on the streets of the polish state, again regarding these two arrests , the opposition law and justice has already announced that it will bring the maximum number of its supporters onto the streets...

to protest against this arbitrariness, what did they call this detention? it is quite possible that not only poland, but also other countries of the european union, faces the threat of civil confrontation. we observe that just yesterday hundreds of people in black shirts gathered in the center of italy, yawning and glorifying nazism. leaders chanted nazi slogans, and at an officially sanctioned rally. why does this all happen? from the fact that europeans and poles in this case, the polish government, i mean, do not listen to their people, but, too much got carried away under the influence of their american, british curators, brussels curators, with foreign policy, instead of

engaging in domestic politics... it stimulates, this is a very important problem,

this is causing a split, a split in polish and european society, it will grow if we if we take europe further, then such issues as policy towards migrants already come into play, this is a catastrophe of the policy towards tolerance, the so-called, this is also a catastrophe in delayed action, but in poland, thank god these issues not this way. but also, you know, andrey, it’s very interesting, dear listeners, how to look at the mimicry of representatives of this fugitive belarusian opposition, we sometimes often remember it, although it does not have any role in events, neither in the world, not in europe, but events in poland, apparently , it has an effect, events in poland have an effect only

if they carry out some one-time receiving of the polish special services, but look why we mention them, look: how they behave in some similar situations or in situations that are critical for freedom words, rights people, they seize state television, silence, they expel opponents there , deputies from the sejm, silence, they captured them, broke into the palace of the president of poland, now he called it a challenge to polish statehood, tomorrow they are gathering some kind of maidan near the walls of the polish... do you publicly support or condemn one side or another, because they are supported, they are kept women, supported by funds that give them financing, so if god forbid they would get their

hands on something in belarus, they would also carry out the will of those who give them money, because whoever gives money plays music and dances. this is a very important point, in such a crisis polish situation, look at our representatives who have been telling us all these years about democracy, human rights, the inviolability of private property, humanitarian law, this is generally a separate issue, how the polish border guards doom the unfortunate migrants to death, beat them they throw them over the fence in the cold, although they are obliged... to accept them according to european legislation, and not a single one words, we didn’t hear from civil activists, an interesting point is about the refugees who are dying on the polish border, and the last case, in my opinion, happened yesterday, if i’m not mistaken, and the most interesting and revealing thing is what i noticed, in the video that belarusian

border guards publish, this man of arab appearance in a light summer jacket lies frozen to death. that is, we can assume that this person either came to the territory of poland during some warm period, but clearly he did not come from somewhere in a light jacket and walked along forest towards the polish border, conditionally, or again, this is a person who got into poland generally legally, because the investigation into this visa scandal was recently completed, according to which the polish state officially sold visas in africa and asia to refugees for, i don’t remember about . similar documents were implemented, that is, these people could officially enter the territory of poland according to their official documents, at the moment they are simply thrown towards the belarusian border, they watch, watch how they freeze

to death on this adjacent territory, but this is simply terrible, in my opinion, the approach is terrible, terrible, monstrous, and our border guards are here. our law enforcement officers are holy people , never in their lives, if you imagine , can such a situation, can a belarusian border guard take a person by the hands, feet, throw him into the cold, knowing what will happen to him, over this wall, this the fence built by the polish side is usually driven over the rocks, this one is supposedly for animals, this is never even in our heads, even if there will be such an order, people will say: what are you talking about, you can’t do that, and there will never even be such an order, and at the same time, the dehumanization of the polish security forces has been going on for the second year, because they are watching, they accept it, but accepting it, they must understand , that fate can also happen to them, she is such

an interesting, ironic fate, lady, she can do exactly the same thing, to watch how calmly how people... die in our swamps, forests, cold, border, it’s monstrous, this is already a manifestation and the beginnings of nazism, you know, it should be noted here that the polish border guards themselves are treated no better than animals, because today they publish quite a lot of videos where, uh, well , actually, the video shows how - in what conditions they are on this border territory, these are some kind of dog-like booths created here, maybe someone has seen, there are special cubes into which sand is poured, they build such military structures, essentially a booth 2 by 2 m is made from these cubes with sand. with a wooden door, they are there like dogs, angry polish border guards, i am not surprised that such an animal attitude towards their own

representatives of the paramilitary structure, it already causes some kind of anger in these people, that it is because of you, because of the refugees, that we are here in such inhumane dog-like conditions , so maybe such a beast acts in relation to these people, so they no longer begin to perceive them as people. really treats them like animals, because well, they are treated approximately the same, not much better than the same refugees, but everything is very simple, yes, the fish rots from the head, in belarus power belongs to the people, in poland power belongs not to the poles, but to the political polish elites, elites, clans, groups that divide the budget, pit one group of the population against another, and also apply to polish

military personnel, until... actions of civil arrest will soon take place , that is, when certain groups of polish people, for example, truck drivers or farmers, are forced to defend their rights, by the way, we... see we are already observing in germany, because the politicians to whom they entrusted their votes do not defend their rights,

despite some progressive slogans, as soon as they are elected, the same thing happens , well, just regarding scholz, his resignation is now being actively discussed in germany , and many political scientists openly say that scholz may not serve out the rest of his term, this is the protest. farmers, which has now expanded, more and more representatives of other professions are joining it, from today, as far as i know, railway workers are getting involved - in this action, in germany, if maybe someone doesn’t know, and so in general the situation is quite complicated, we are used to the fact that a train, if it is written that it will arrive at 12:30, then it will arrive at 12 :30 will be on the platform, that is, already there 10-20 minutes before departure, in germany you can arrive at this time and leave around four in the evening, because... interruptions due to these increasingly frequent protests, complexity in general, with the provision of the

railway, resources, qualified personnel and so on, it’s practically unprecedented, so this protest action of farmers, it ’s really colossal, you watch the video where, it seems to me, tens of thousands of tractors are driving out, when they turn on their flashing lights especially at night, it feels like half of germany shines at this moment. and people are quite determined, plus the german government and law enforcement agencies say that during this peaceful protest, it is truly peaceful, farmers do not want any radical actions, but during this peaceful protest people with fairly radical views are trying to integrate, all this can develop into a fairly serious confrontation, including with the security forces, what do you think

about this? i think that the shadow... it’s very painful to watch, yesterday we found out who became the prime minister of france, this is a representative

of another lgbt, but is there really no normal... man in france, excuse me, we definitely have to take the sexual, excuse me, pervert, prime minister -the minister of a great nuclear power, this simple frenchman, this a simple german, this simple italian , is filled with rage, looking, observing what is happening, in connection with this, these conflicts will escalate, they will escalate , among other things, because the five million army... of migrants, at a minimum, means that they have settled in that germany, with its own orders, with its own rules, with its own demands , unfortunately, the european authorities in some cities are meeting these odious, terrible demands, for example, the new year ban, or the ban on some type of meat

in school canteens, that is that we

we observe - these are not jokes if they... it seems to me that we are now in the late thirties, if we draw parallels, someone says forty-one, forty-three, no, we are in the late thirties, we need to survive at all costs, to ensure peace, to ensure stability, uh, that means this is our most important task, not to get in anywhere, through all these ice floes, foreign policy, geopolitical, to sail calmly, providing our... people, our pensioners, a stable, calm life, the situation really extremely complicated, probably two or three years ago, within the framework of the tv news agency , i published my column regarding the rampant and rise of right-wing populists in the european union, i want to say that this situation with the black shirts in italy, it is not the only one, in spain they go

out to similar marches, because there is also a cult of certain, leaders of right-wing views in spain, in germany, in france, that is , old europe, especially people of conservative views, they find in these ideas a certain an outlet, as it seems to me, this is already , you know, an outburst of those emotions that people accumulate against this lgbt imposition, against the fact that people are forced, it’s absurd, when at the legislative level they come to you and say that if if you... tell your child to finance his transition from a boy to a girl, you will be subject to criminal prosecution. this is how absurd the situation in the state must be for you to have criminal liability for something like this. i liked it, and by the way, i did too not long ago i watched a video of a russian-speaking german who said: i don’t allow my 4-year-old child to choose whether he will eat sausage

or porridge for breakfast, well, because i’m a parent, that’s what i can conditionally give him. with severe psychological trauma, when after 2-3 years the realization comes to you that this has not solved some of your social issues, some opportunity to get a mate there, and so on, then everything begins, nature takes its toll and people understand, well , that’s probably all there is to a way out of this situation, either commit suicide, or those who still continue to retain some common sense,

they go into pro-radical ideas and see

a solution to this... i would think about where to move to raise my children, well, in some... then under normal conditions? there is no claim to the european citizens themselves, because they were left no choice, they have only one door to go into this radicalism, because everything that is imposed, and this contradicts the human, moral, spiritual foundations, because the great german, polish, spanish culture, it this does not imply everything, because you need to understand why they are lobbying for all this, so that

we become dehumanized, do not reproduce, that ’s where this propaganda of all these outrages comes from, so that we do not reproduce, that’s what their goal is for those who lobby for this, that’s , but... plus to this is added a war against certain groups of the population, against its economy, well, how can you explain that the polish government is destroying its truck drivers, the german government is destroying its farmers, the german government is destroying its economy, allowing

gas pipelines to explode, which ensured. european values ​​and see what it’s like to be on maternity leave for six months, and not 3 years, or to make an appointment with a therapist or pediatrician and receive this appointment in 2 months, and not tomorrow, like ours, to search throughout poland for an mri device to pay for it 300-400 euros. recently , there was also news in the news that

the center... is so super good, like in the most developed countries of europe, we have not yet reached this point, but we are making adjustments, and it’s super good, life there only part of the population, even if only some. middle class, but 10, 20% of them are starving , live in shacks, lie on the street, die there, this is not propaganda, no, these are facts, it’s very good that our skeptics

who laughed at our economic and political device, they now see it all, now they are thinking what to do, like going back, their pride doesn’t allow them, but how come it didn’t work out for us, they can’t stay there. look at what is happening, because when you look, even how they beat your children at school, with these values , tolerant in quotes, then you don’t want anything, you want... excursions and told me, there’s even a smell , because my child recently arrived from the city, the smell of this grass, everyone who goes there they come, they know that there is a smell of drugs, and so, now you will be faced , even at the smallest level, with... the horrors

of the so-called civilized west, only if you have money for an elite school, for life in some kind of elite ghetto, then you can feel complete there a person, and this is how you will always feel to the people, so if our fellow citizens are still thinking about returning, we urge them to return immediately, the territory of belarus is the territory of the world, because i repeat, we are now like... belarusian radio , our guest was yuri voskresensky, a political scientist, and i, host

andrey sych, see you. together with the belarus 24 tv channel, we will plunge into the cultural life of our country. now they would say the opera and ballet theater, because look, our stage is quite high, you see the bars below, but from there the artist could unexpectedly come out and say: hello, there’s something else to play. this is a city with harmonious sleeping, suffering and good everyday life, rich history and bright everyday life. let's remember folk traditions. here there was an outstanding garadian tradition, skin day, and the day 's beautiful dances flowing with the sounds of belarusian fanfare. geta is a trumpeter, like all the people of grodzen, who are so good and

calm. eight getae.