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tv   [untitled]  BELARUSTV  January 11, 2024 1:05pm-2:05pm MSK

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the largest protest is planned for 4 p.m. the organizers of the march hope that at least 50 thousand people will come out to protest. on the first day of the russian biathlon championship in cheikovsky, the belarusian team wins its first medal. anna sola won the silver award following the super sprint in difficult weather conditions. in qualifying, she showed the sixth time, and in the medal race she was able to improve her position. she made it to the podium, losing just a little. more than a second
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of the winner tamara derbusheva, when she was qualifying, i actually ran around in a warm-up overall so as not to freeze, now, in principle, the race didn’t have time to freeze quickly anyway, the wind is strong and it interferes with shooting, so i decided not to aim, to try, if anything, to win back with my feet, because here there is no penalty loop so big, by that moment the men's race had already ended, the belarusians could not get on the podium, however... dmitry lazovsky made it into the top 10. that's all i have for news. my colleagues will update the information at 3:00 pm. stay on the first button.
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the first talk show broadcast in 2024 is on the air, today kirill kazakov and i, alen sirova, together with our respected experts and speakers, will talk about faith, about interfaith peace on our land, about these subtle nuances that can ... arise when you want to find understanding , as always, we invite you to become participants in our program, here at the bottom of the screen you see a qr code, point your smartphone screen at it and follow the link, write questions or opinions in the chat, we will try our best take into account answer everything, well, in the lower right corner there is a link to our telegram channel, where you can learn more about life about opinions on the merits, let's get started, hello, well, i would like
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to initially say that i am proud to live in the country where we we can absolutely calmly bring together representatives of different religions on one platform in order to talk about one main goal, about peace in our country, in belarus, because despite this word tolerance, which is now being talked about, many western countries, first of all of the west, this tolerance... turns into such a radical symbolism of its own opinions, when the minority tries to dictate its opinion to the majority, and not always traditional religions, not always traditional beliefs and generally just traditions are taken into account in order to build some kind of a normal, flourishing human state, humane, i like this word very well, i read one good idea when i was preparing that...
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it helps somehow create the image of a country in which you want to live, and you know, the president also once said that we have passed our limit of wars, we have also passed our limit of conflicts, and i will once again return to the fact that i am proud to live in a country where you can calmly talk, including on religious topics, live with different representatives of different faiths, and this is probably very valuable. that’s why i had two christmases,
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well, i would like to turn to you, please tell me, the orthodox faith, we understand perfectly well that there are more orthodox people in belarus, but there is some kind of misunderstanding, for example, with other confessions, or perhaps you understand that orthodoxy puts pressure on other confessions, or this word is not here at all... described, well , there is no pressure, of course, because we fulfill the gospel, that is, the lord is ours gave us a way of life, gave us commandments, gave us the opportunity to live in peace, in love, in joy, in harmony,
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and a true believer, he first of all takes care of his soul, he first of all cares about what he will inherit... kingdom of heaven, here you say the future, of course, we are all looking to the future, because we understand that this material world is changeable, what is happening here, but we all strive to unite with god, and in order to be worthy of this, we must go through purification, and purification is through humility, through love, through consent , through mutual understanding, therefore the orthodox church, first of all... preaches the gospel, preaches the teachings of christ and calls on all the people of god to measure their lives with the gospel in order to worthily, truly, beautifully, well, if we are talking about orthodoxy as the most numerous
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and religion in our country is associated with the secular life of the state, then last year we adopted changes to the constitution, let it be enshrined. the special status of the orthodox church in our country has been secured. how timely is this step, in your opinion? no society can develop without spiritual guidelines. if people begin to live only in the material world, this means that there will always be division, there will never be agreement, there will be no mutual understanding, therefore every state and... society that wants to create its beautiful, clear, peaceful future, it must first of all take care of the spiritual component, therefore the recognition of the church as predominant, well, given that
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the majority of the population and historically traditionally, it was our people who accepted the orthodox faith , then of course this is... a change in the constitution, it reflects both denmark ’s historical tradition and the current state of affairs. well, in general, i’m already here - behind the scenes i talked about the fact that mm, not only, because there are major religious holidays were, not only because, uh, such is the new year, yes, winter period, we decided to invite representatives of all faiths to our site to talk on the merits, but also because we understand perfectly well that, in general, faith in the soul of the belarusian people has always been and is, well, the basis, yes, the basis, in general, of our, creating, as i think, spiritual world, and we understand that we have a rather difficult period ahead,
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two major electoral elections await us at once campaigns, literally there for 2 years, it’s obvious that...
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you don’t repair the cleaning or the car for 20 years, but in what condition it will be, the law is not related to
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the upcoming election campaign, this is definite, and you mentioned the constitution, what is written in the constitution, no, you know, it’s not planned now, it’s already in the law, which the president signed on january 3 already spells out the special role of the belarusian orthodox church. the role of other major religions is spelled out, this law, no matter how our enemies try, it is still aimed at creation, it is designed to make our society resistant to challenges from the outside, you mentioned our enemies in the upcoming election campaign, you know, some have already appeared...
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what is relio? a religious organization is a community of people who voluntarily united for the purpose of free religion, to say that in our country of ten 9.5 million people religious organizations are somehow oppressed is also not necessary, there are more than 3,500 churches registered with us 25 confessions, directions. temples, thousands of priests, this suggests that people
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calmly in your desire to go to church, let's go back again to our recent history, literally recent history, remember the times of covid, remember the president, yeah, the president said several times that we never close and will not close the doors to the temple, maybe someone perceived it as god, someone like in the usa, who defends religious freedoms, believes in satan, here,
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but about this, yes, re-registration, putting things in order, what is this, how will the process be organized in general, what is it will introduce himself, some certain demands will probably be put forward , because well, for 20 years they can tell you, well, for 20 years everything was generally normal, our parties underwent re-registration, it will be somewhat similar, here it is or not, yes and no. well, look, 20 years, let’s say, 20 years ago some kind of religious organization, well, a community, was formed, in 20 years a person can move to another country, in 20 years a person, excuse me, can die, something else, well, if from this a community of 10 people has no one left, does it have the right to simply hanging dead in thunderstorms, no, as for the requirements, they, they are not unique, they... usually, there is nothing supernatural in this situation, when the law comes into force,
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the corresponding by- laws will be issued that will streamline all this, i am sure that it will pass without excesses, a question for you, the second largest religion in our country is catholicism, and i , well... not to say sincerely, many people perceive it as a mostly pro-polish organization, what is the mission of catholicism to belarus? here? i understand perfectly well that many people who they profess catholicism, have lived here for centuries and do not consider themselves poles at all, and in fact, our president has always said, even if these are poles, these are our belarusian poles, this is the mission of belarusian catholicism, maybe i’ll say this remark at the beginning that everything-
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after all, faith and religion are about the past, present and future , creating the past, regretting for... correcting in the present, we look to the future, there was a ninetieth year, when there was a need for priests to come and help, well, feed people, who, who were truly baptized in the church and were catholics, now there is no such need, we have a very small percentage of priests serving from abroad, we have our own seminary, which...
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or then i’m not playing at religion, therefore, complementing sergei sergeevich, speaking about the law, about the changes that have been made, we very often evaluate it from the point of view of the main confessions, but we are not talking about those, let’s say, sects that cause enormous harm, destructive sects, yes, which, well, there should be control , and today they don't even know themselves anymore are called religious organizations, and this is a very important point, so this is a new stage in development, and it is also pleasing that at the constitutional level the law states that the main religions and confessions have their own weight, this speaks of our society as this is a guarantee, a guarantee of this enormous spirituality, today we can safely say and am ready
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to do so, that it is our country in all... europe today that is this, you know, foundation, stronghold, where normal relations are still preserved not only between confessions, but and we save this one spirituality, and the time will come when we will share our successes with others, unless you said, the only thing left in europe is somewhere else...
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and - an orthodox priest, a catholic axeon are two respected people, uh i always wanted to understand, inside it ’s like, in theory, there are two faiths, well, two two confessions, in any case, there arises, uh, well , a certain need to uh increase your flock, how does it react , for example, i have a family, yes, i'm orthodox, my wife is catholic, we get along, she doesn't like me drags her into orthodoxy, i her, or rather into catholicism, i drag her into orthodoxy, we live normally, this is normal, well, from the point of view of the catholic church? you yourself answered your question, moving from one shtetl to a family , look how many we have, we have many mixed families, and this is normal, two christmases, two easters, this is a wealth of traditions that we only multiply by collecting, and this
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shows here ours is precisely wealth and dignity, yes ours. our society, our, our people, talk about finding a flock in in a small town or village , where there are 300 or 400 people left, no one talks about tugging, no one talks about it now, the husband will not drag his wife from the churches to the church, also on the contrary, this is already a culture, a culture of being, a culture of being together, when we are not looking for different things, for what divides us. when we create and rejoice in what enriches us, because in a family, the husband is not there to correct his wife, but in order to...
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some global difficulties that exist, moreover, that’s just -oh yeah new law, about which, about a new amendment, and to the law, a new version of the law, we are talking, then
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we believe that this is a long overdue document, because this is an opportunity for new ones, including local communities , to arise somewhere , because, well, it’s no secret that there is such a certain bones and individual, maybe officials,
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that was essentially laid down in the pre-christian period, when there was diverse paganism or east slavic polytheism, when it existed in different territories belarusian lands believed in certain gods , christianity came, christianity coexisted with paganism, not without problems, but ultimately a synthesis occurred: byzantine orthodoxy and eastern christian polytheism, as a result of which a special phenomenon of east slavic, belarusian, in this case, orthodoxy appeared. new tests, but this required the development of new mechanisms of interaction, from the end of the 14th century, when the position of the roman catholic church strengthened on the territory of belarus. this is quite.
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what is worth strengthening, what is worth being proud of, and what needs to be preserved and protected, then the question is for you, the coat of arms of the bssr in 1937 had four inscriptions in polish, russian, belarusian yiddish, it was clearly stated that there really are a lot of jews here, the saddle line passed here, in the city of bobruisk, known there in the books of ilf and
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petrov. precisely as places where jews lived first of all, and i understand that it’s great, now is not the time and the number of people professing judaism is much smaller, but you come there, again, if you see a catholic church or an orthodox church, you will 100% find out that there was a synagogue somewhere, this is a normal story, at the moment, this is how you think the contribution of the jews is the jews? into the politics of belarus, exactly into the current politics, this is what you are doing and what the state is doing for you, thank you very much for the questions, for the invitation, it seems to me that we should start with the fact that religion is politics, they can be together on the part of society, but there is no need for them to be together due to the fact that there are different vector directions politics and religion, but the question is very
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correct, that ... religious associations of jews, for a second there are three chairmen of three jews from 20 to 40 thousand, i don’t think that there is any other country where they will immediately invite two orthodox
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associations , one reformist, in terms of timing they will speak no less than 10% of the time, so this is the fact with which, in general, you put it on the table, and... which, in general, we have a place be and live, and now what do we do in side of the state, i listened for a long time to questions about where you have a holocaust memorial museum, and what is being done here, and what is being done there, the genocide of the belarusian people, have they forgotten about the holocaust, there are such questions, these are correct, these are fresh, these are topical issues, no, we haven’t forgotten, in a textbook for the first to fourth grades; to be honest, i don’t even know how subtly they should have been thought through. this textbook, because just recently, when we were in israel with my wife and our children, there are rules there, up to a certain age you can’t even go to a museum come in, but for the first and second grades you need to very carefully talk about war, about genocide, about deaths, and many things can
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be touched upon in general, and not only the textbook itself is thought out, but there are certain pages, certain facts and even certain photographs that talk about the holocaust, about the tragedy of the jewish people, besides this day... i encountered this in 2020, i think that everyone here encountered this, when people came instead of praying, disputes began, who voted for whom, who how who is right, who is wrong, who is not this and so on and so forth,
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at some stage this not only interfered with prayer , it probably interfered with the peace and harmony that we all expect in the temple, no matter how we swear outside the temple, we come to the temple for understanding, for peace , for prayer, for health, for... birth, wedding and so on, for many other things, well, there is such a tendency that here is the place where i came for prayer, i probably suggested maybe not the best, but i don't regret what i offered, i say you you know, let’s just sit there, if you voted for this candidate, you go here, if for this one, here, if there for this one , here, so don’t quarrel, this is a bad proposal, ravina, i can honestly say, well, that’s all they turned to me and said, no, we won’t sit down like that, we are one community. prayer for the state, yes, and we say it, and we say it almost every day, yes, especially there and on shabbat we say it, when
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we read the torah, let us designate this place as a place not to continue our disputes and discussions, but the continuation of our reflections, studies and prayers, this is probably the policy that the synago should be, it seems to me, while i... roots, cemetery, and home, everything that i can remember, i said with my own hands, yes, let's close it, with this re-registration , i'm not talking about any general policy now, i'm talking to myself now, we 're going back to what i'm calling and saying, let's think about it, maybe we'll restore it, maybe we'll do something that was hastily
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closed, because it can be quickly destroyed, then there is sergei sergeevich, it turns out that this decision was inspired by the times, in general, not so much initiated by the state as possible... in order to develop the proposals that were included in the new edition of the law, every leader of all our leading faiths was asked several times, and not one , not two, not three, not four, our parliamentarians made a balanced decision, took into account all the wishes, somewhere they taught, somewhere honestly, maybe they didn’t teach, but no less, this is a balanced decision.
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and this will not happen, well, this simply means that many of our enemies, we will now return to them, they first of all say, here’s any re-registration - first of all, we will now clean it up, leave what is needed, and what is not it is necessary, no, when they stop believing in someone, to believe in something, yes, no matter what religion, then it turns out. such a story that they can be managed more easily, for example, the
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same coronavirus is a story that is completely inexplicable, well, that is, it came from somewhere, it’s clear that the disease is there, that history needs it, so and so, in general , it began, it’s essentially, we continue the topic of peace, first of all, the religious world, and let’s talk about 2020, unfortunately, there are enemies in our country, father alexander, i’ll tell you you have a story, it happened yesterday, yesterday... relatively speaking for belarus for the president, which means grisha just showed me today screenshots of those inscriptions that came to the telegram channel. after this interview, the whole
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point is that the people who really wrote very bad things about her, they call themselves patriots of new belarus. my question now is, how can you and the orthodox priest tolerate it and either somehow do something to punish these people? this is how to act in this story, especially when you understand that this is an orthodox priest, she is well... in fact, she is getting out of her own way, this is how to act in this story? it seems to me, as a result of the analysis of all these inscriptions, it seems to me that non-believers leave them, there is a certain political bias, because a believer a person, he will not interfere in politics like this, much less swear, much less hang labels to insult another person, he understands that... everyone has the image of god, that
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the main means of peace is a prayer to god for every person, for admonition, about peace, that’s why these prayers are offered in our churches every day, about peace, reason, so that people understand the essence of their existence, the purpose of life, since in politics we know little, you have to be an expert. and ordinary people, simple ones, they understand very little, they don’t know many undercurrents, but it happens that they say something aggressively, so the true faith , it calls, first of all, to treat with respect, understanding that we ourselves cannot carry out any judgment, since the lord says, if we do not judge, you will not be judged, every judgment.. .is entrusted to god, but every person
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must act in such a way as to remain righteous before god, therefore, when we begin to swear, condemn another, we take upon ourselves the prerogative of a judge, which only belongs to god. but we agree, yes, it is possible that most of these people are non-believers and so further, but at the same time, but they say that they believe, well, they have to judge your opinion about the church. they express this , including publicly, and one can also say this about representatives of any other faith, when , well, we also often see when someone expresses this or that opinion, in general. most of all, they begin to teach bishops how they should serve, priests, how they should preach, this is a very complex topic, i always tell my parishioners: you came to the temple, i support rabbi gregory, what i say: leave daily problems are behind the doors
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, we have gathered here for a different reason, you will return to them, they will not be solved without you, but you will return to solve them with god's wisdom, and not on... emotions, you will return to solve them with a calm heart, full of love, then problems are solved in a different way, questions are resolved in a different way, so it’s difficult for us clergymen on the one hand, on the other hand it’s easier, because there is a gospel, there is a holy scripture that we must follow, and about opinions, how many people so many opinions, so this is holy scripture, led to the temptation for everyone to interpret this in their own way, that’s exactly what the problem is. that, as a rule, this is done by illiterate people who do not know either the scripture or its interpretation, you need to turn to the priesthood, you need to turn to people who are educated and understand what we are talking about and get an answer, and otherwise, you know when there were these troubles, so many people called me and
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told me what we should do, yeah, then i listened to it all, i already told the next one, you know, i’ve already collected 10 algorithms, which one should i follow, after all, i’ve chosen one, i can’t please these nine anymore , so please leave us the right to decide how we should act and what we should do, because the church, it calls on god to admonish him, according to the inspiration of the holy spirit, she acts with... a conciliar decision on everything together, and not individually due to our own misunderstanding, ignorance , misunderstanding, you need to understand this, andre , well, you listened to our entire long conversation, i also overheard you behind the scenes, a long conversation, in general, at the beginning of the program i said that what in
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the near future, well, my opinion is that it is our wealth, our consent will be tried.
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the first point was touched on this word tolerance, yes, which on the one hand, everyone says that it is inherent in the mentality of belarusians, i agree, yes, but on the other hand, recently this term, well, how to say, is being devalued, but it ’s being attributed to a slightly different meaning, and
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that’s exactly it, that’s what i wanted to say, i wanted to say, from a christian point of view, and in this case, religious tolerance is probably easier to replace.
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here i will say as a person from the education system, yes, this situation needs to be supported and it needs to be supported precisely through education, because despite the wonderful picture that we have painted, well, i would still note, how can i say, insufficient education and our youth.
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regarding the uniqueness, it is worth noting that muslims in belarus, i apologize, but i have to
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say this too, are a unique example not only for europe, eastern europe, for the whole world, because here for the first time in the history of humanity, muslims lived on the territory of belarus, without being either conquerors or conquered, this is a very important point. which distinguishes the belarusian identity and the belarusian, well, belarusian mentality, there is such a word, by the way, when talking about tolerance, our muftis very often replace it with a good word, good neighborliness, a very simple, ordinary word, but really, if we are talking about relations between faiths , then this is just the upholstery we talked, one such example, a muslim holiday comes to a catholic priest, an orthodox priest.
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yes, tolerance, which has now been attached a little to another, but it seems to me that the best protection is to be a house of prayer, a house of meeting and a house of study for any temple, and another protection - this has already been done is the involvement of the confession in the discussion of the constitution and not just on the superficial level, and we respected it, everyone contributed certain things.
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we were in the mosque, discussing ecology, and it would seem that a lot is being written now, well what is going on there, now the conflict in israel, how is belarus reflected, very simply reflected, not me, but mufti abubakir came up to me and said how muslim imams gathered, discussed, and i answered how there was also a discussion within the jewish communities , yes
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, this is a conflict, yes, this is a problem, yes, this is a war, well, ours...
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there is no need to get involved in the little things, and especially not to waste television time, we discussed the issue of transvestites, yeah, maybe there are 10 of them, maybe there are 11 of them , maybe 12, well, this question is raised, that these people exist, that they are present, that there are examples there when they are together, when they even take care of children in orphanages, well, if there are 10-12 of them there, one could
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say, listen, well, this is a trifle, let’s discuss it. that society and those geographical places where communication will be good, but if we remember that very notorious 2020, when it was difficult, how close your interfaith interaction was, some kind of common position was developed, well , i understand that the word headquarters is here , probably not applicable, but in the soviet plan it may be such a story, a group, but
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there was a group on telegram, that’s where we are, well, anyway. the day allowed me a lot, and my brother , a priest, told me, he is a sociologist, he is a sociology teacher, he says: there is no need to invent the wheel, look at jesus, he was involved in politics, i will not go into a historical perspective now - a snapshot of how jerusalem lived, the people of israel during the time of jesus, what difficulties there were, jesus came and said: “love god with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and your neighbor as yourself.”
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i also wanted to add a remark to marika regarding religion and politics, here is the situation when the secular position is the religious-church position in this audience, in any case, it is identical, that religion is for god and for man, for his salvation, in any case, all religions believe so, but the fact that there should be distancing between...
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