tv [untitled] BELARUSTV January 29, 2024 10:45pm-11:46pm MSK
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shuddering at every rustle, tosya and vitya lay holding their breath, they were afraid to move, the bushes became a saving wall, tears flowed down their faces, the children wondered what would happen to their friends, the germans loaded them into a car and took them away, they managed to get in, they were lucky, and others. sniffling, the girl brushed aside the terrible thoughts, but somewhere deep down in her soul she understood that there was trouble with the kids. faces stood before my eyes, peacocks, that’s what they called their teacher and her little angels.
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she brought this horror in her soul until the last of her days, a resident of leplevka was digging. sickly when i saw a car at the edge of the forest. children's cries and machine gun fire , cutting the air of a sunny day , sounded in her head again, replaying a crazy picture, not understanding out of fear how long she lay there, covering her head with her hands, she still dared to go to that place in the forest. the earth
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seemed to be moving, the children's bodies were barely covered, this tragic story begins here, this building, an orphanage , literally next door the children had a laundry room, and this is a deep basement, where next to children were hiding in food from the hell of shelling and bombing. after the war , many people were interested in this basement, and not all of them spoke russian. the hostess talks about the mysterious guest. she lives here after the war, there was everything in this building, but in the end the grandfather was given it for housing. from snatches of the stranger's phrases, the woman realized that perhaps his father was among the children who are called on this earth. they were adopted and dismantled
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by local residents in the second year of the war. with him was a representative of some brez organization, what is it? some famous artist from chicago, he was with his son and daughter-in-law, and that his father was in this orphanage. the foreigner was not verbose, and stood for a long time, thoughtfully, peering into the emptiness of the damp basement. his eyes seemed to be looking for something. he was interested in this particular orphanage, basement and cemetery where jews were buried. when two more women arrived. from russia, for some reason they were also interested in this basement, some of them came every year. press
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to feed the children, a man wiping his tears at the monument, semyon katkov, he grew up in this orphanage, semyon ivanovich has long been dead, but his testimony is still alive, i remember well the day when german planes bombed our orphanage , our building burned down, they were already sleeping , it seems to me, like... before everyone had a bed, three or four people were already sleeping on a bed, yes, not only were there not enough beds, in forty-one there were more than 100 people huddled here, from archival documents, testimony of anastasia usova from domachevo. on the first day of the war, a german who entered the courtyard
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of an orphanage saw a mass of children and said: “it’s a shame we didn’t send a couple of extra shells here, otherwise we’ll have to feed the parasites. ” but the first month of the war cleared out the boarding rooms, 15 children, the kids were the first to be hit with jewish roots, they were taken to the ghetto and a year later in 1942 they were shot. such atrocity could not have been imagined by the future teacher of children polina grokholskaya, a girl from a ukrainian village in... premershchina, 20 years old, she gathered around herself orphaned children, became their second mother and brought them to domachevo, how she found herself on belarusian soil, which led her to brest, more on this a little later, from the memories of learning at home by
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elizaveta grachev, the orphanage lived for the first month on the supplies of food that were received next month, but not calculated. and in the evening there was coffee again, the children were often sick, some could not be saved, there was not enough food or medicine, but hell awaited the strongest. the girl
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tosya, who escaped from the germans, reached the polish village of slovatachi, this is literally a couple of kilometers from damachev, until the thirty-ninth year, the residents of the frequented... they did not fall, the psychos fed on beets, she says that circles appeared, yellow circles in the eyes, that is
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, this is a living memory, and they say that there was a special shed, yes, that is, where they were thrown out there, if you could, get up, and after this procedure go back to the orphanage, you returned when... you remembered this, you always cried,” says taisiya shakhmetova’s grandson, andrei mikhalenko. these photos were taken before the war. everything is still here happy, my mother, who was shot in 1942, is alive. here is a note on the photograph made by tosya. her younger brother died of dysentery at the age of one and a half years. and misha, the eldest, will be driven away to germany. tosya has always been a girl in her body, which is why they often took blood from her.
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yes, the definition is the merciless mass destruction of innocent civilians . there are many such bloody spots on the map of the brezsky district. western propaganda presents the german occupiers to their new generation as the saviors of the world from the communists, the benefactors who came to ours. to liberate the land from the soviet yoke, behind their distorting mirrors there are rivers of blood, violence,
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robberies, the cynical genocide of the belarusian people, the total extermination of the jews. each german division, passing through soviet territory, had a lot of photographs, there was a propaganda company, i was always amazed by this figure when i learned that the german... army by june 22, 1941 numbered approximately 6 million amateur photographers and 6 million cameras, that is , you can imagine how many photographic documents are stored to this day in german archives, this is how the nazis acted, who came here to conquer territory, develop and liberate living space, as nazi ideologists said, today what do they say openly, but how and who? speaks at the level of heads of state, they say , they attacked us, belarus, russia
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, because belarus supports russia and our allied states, you understand what it is, they show mariupol, there are other cities there, it doesn’t matter what it is there are, and they are done by the same nazis or those who were born after them, in the baltics, look, the ss battalions , well... the heirs in the ss uniform, marching uniforms, belarusian children were tortured, experiments were performed on them, they were starved in... camps, burned alive along with old people in villages, khatyn, dalva, more than four hundred burned villages along with their inhabitants, genocide is not only when they killed, i don’t see any difference today, for example, there is judeophobia in the concepts, and, let’s say, belarusophobia, russophobia, i
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don’t see such a difference, the main thing is , this is when someone begins to consider someone as a being more, so to say, of a low order, children, their tears, childhood shot, the tragedy in domachevo - a separate story of a war crime. the policy of genocide was promoted by nazi hangers-on and lackeys, often local residents. more than 40 residents of the brest region were interrogated, who are still real... namely living witnesses of those atrocities, this will go down in history and it will be loudly stated that the people were massacred, mercilessly, the revival of fascism is unacceptable. on september 23, the children were told to put on their best things. let me help you get ready, let's collect all the best. what can i help you with?
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public, help me fold my shirt. of course, bunny! the kids, who were mostly 4-5, 6, 7 years old, took their favorite toys with them, and the truck arrived right in the courtyard of the orphanage. the orphanage workers were warned the day before that they would simply be transported to the city; it turned out that something completely different was waiting for them.
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tosya, as i remember. then more than once she escaped from the executioners by jumping from the car together with vitya abramov. they lay in the bushes, then realized that the grandfather’s house was closed. we went to vitya’s mother in the village. the boy was sent to a boarding school only because there was nothing to feed the child. in the evening, when everything had calmed down, tosya decided to find out what was happening in the orphanage. the same truck stood at the commandant’s office, with the clothes of her friends in it. the girl understood immediately.
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in the trauma department as a nurse, all my life i helped people, about how i dug potatoes, heard shots, and after she tried to dig up the children, a resident of leplevka told not only her fellow villagers, but later investigators: a mass grave of children, what could be worse, that’s what the archives keep from her memories, when they came, they said that the earth was still sinking, right... sprinkled where there was a place where the execution took place, blood clots oozed straight from there, there were 20 along the grokholskaya line, she remained from...
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profession, a student of the zhytomyr pedagogical college fell in love with the school director, a year later he was drafted into the army, sent to studying at the leningrad military-political school, then bombs, the howling of sirens and the unknown, the road of fate led the guy to the border of brest, the question was raised a lot, and who? she brought with her, yes, that is, there is information that she did not come here alone, but came with children, and they say that these were the children of the officers of the brez fortress, or, that is, these are the children of officers, and if we
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look, then among the children who were shot there are really a lot of names, that is, experts say that these are some of those who defended the cross during the attack, long after... arkady blyakher, a front-line soldier, artilleryman, intelligence officer and journalist, who spent his entire post-war life engaged in search work, published an article about the tragedy of the orphanage in the all-union newspaper krasnaya zvezda, the publication accidentally fell into the hands of polima’s parents, and so the truth was revealed who such stepan kazachenko, when brest was liberated, came here and searched for a long time. he never knew anything about his wife, and a few months later he died on the territory of poland, with the rank of major. this is how the life of this young family turned out, in which,
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of course, the fascists are to blame. history is collected bit by bit at the domachevo school, a school that is 150 years old, within whose walls many generations have grown up. children perceive differently, little ones cannot understand. how is this possible in principle, why did they shoot the children? older children, passing through their souls, realize how monstrous those events were. there was such an example, very vivid, when we had an exhibition opening, and the girl simply learned the poems, recited them, and after this exhibition was presented. here it is it touched me so much that i even got the impression that she was about to cry, she began to get confused by what
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she heard, you know, after the war they talked very little about the war, even still little, when i compare it with today, well as i remember, somehow the fontoviki were shy and maybe didn’t want to upset us once again, so something was remembered. that’s where the children were shot, that’s where they lived, that’s where the teacher was with them, that’s where some people demanded information, and since this was talked about somehow, well, with maybe even with a certain anxiety, it was transmitted, this mood was transmitted to us. for many years, this place caused shock even among those who knew nothing about the tragedy. people spoke of a sudden, incomprehensible feeling of fear.
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therefore, over time, they put up a cross, the fear that came from the place of execution, it disappeared somewhere. in 1987 , a monument of grief and protest was erected at the turn to domachy. these are bronze sculptures of children with their hands raised in supplication. this is a moral object, a political object, a spiritual object. and it was probably built with a special feeling. probably the most exciting thing was the period when these figures were already brought to
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the open. well, you understand, they were processed through the village, covered with a certain substance, transported there, unloaded there, when the sculptors formed a train, and we lifted it with a crane , mounted it there , attached it, of course, tears welled up, of course, in our eyes, here every year the pioneers saluted, carried flowers to the kobelisk children's figures, people of different nationalities, passing cars stopped, but the locals knew... the real place execution, hidden in the forest, it used to be written everywhere on the monument that there were 54 children, only recently, literally, something like 53, it turned out that there were still surviving children, here it is necessary, well, we didn’t know these names for a long time, who these children are, arkady blyakher, that is, a journalist through
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society, again helped. young prisoners of concentration camps, shortly before the opening of the monument, the second monument at the site of execution, he sends, yes, that is, the school corresponded with him, and he sends lists, lists of not all, more thirty children who were killed on that day, september 23, in that place, that is, but it is still impossible to completely establish all the names, because it is clear that there is a war, something is damaged, something has not been established, this is already about ...
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that captain shevchenko, he was the quartermaster of the commandant’s office, reached the village of idragichina and died there. it turned out that captain shevchenko had a son who ended up in an orphanage. ilya shevchenko, it turns out, was attended by doctor navitsky, who was later shot by the germans, but the boy remained alive and actually lived to see our days. he was much older than me, of course, but i still remember. maybe i was in the second or third grade, he was in high school , he was adopted by the residents of the village of kobelka, this is where he lived, he graduated from our school, i remember it seemed to me that he was kind of gloomy, the second is the same family in the sticks - this is the family of junior lieutenant zuikov, he was the deputy head of the outpost and, too, when the outpost took the first battle,
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his two children fought for 5 hours. ended up in an orphanage, these girls were found here, in this forest, here they are, on black marble slab galya zuikova, lida zuikova, 2.4 years old, these babies shared the fate of other executed children. alexander volkovich, a military journalist and writer, the son of a front-line soldier, shows his new...
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other names are also being restored through the works of researchers and historians, such as kirill gavrilenko. he shows an unusual wall. her appearance has not changed since the forties. one of the locals immediately after the war made this inscription: the paints are like new. another victim of the orphanage can be considered its director, this is anna lenkova. on the very first day of the war, she took part in rescuing children during an air raid. and she just mentions the first three victims of the orphanage who died in the raid. her fate is quite complicated; she is accused of having connections with the communist party, with the underground in november. from the second year she is taken to a place called sands and shot. when the kids were shot, semyon katkov, the same gray-haired man with tears at the rally, was in the hospital.
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the wound he received essentially saved his life. you know what question torments me, why before their death, these children were stripped, but it turns out that at the same time an orphanage was created for the children of folsdoch, the so-called, at that time children's clothing, children's goods were quite rare, and these children's clothes were from these undressed...
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or at the end of forty-two, the partisans caught him, i don’t know, this is not confirmed, at least that’s what the local residents told me, that they crucified him on a birch tree, history puts everything in its place, everyone will be rewarded, many of the nazis, both germans and local policemen received deservedly, in the ninety-fifth year , employees of the english city, they carried out measures to expose one of the very last on... these criminals whom they detained in england at that time, andrei savanyuk, at that time he was the chief of police here, took an active part in the executions of civilians, and naturally, i was somehow involved in this tragedy, because when i talked with
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witnesses, with whom we also went, working with scotland staff to interrogate witnesses, many they remembered that it was the domachevsky boarding house, the tragedy was studied in detail at the nuremberg trials. the act on fascist atrocities was drawn up in november 1944. eyewitnesses of the execution, residents of damachev, leplevka and kobelka. some of them were personally present at the trial. residents of two villages of kobyolka, who watched from afar as children were taken to be shot, they spoke out. they described in detail who and how children were taken away to be executed; nazi crimes began long before that. famous names of nazi leaders of the brez district, according to whom according to orders, children were shot, like the names of those
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who pulled the trigger in that very forest. why, why did the germans and slavic peoples dislike them so much? what are we to blame for? the fact is that we... russians, belarusians, ukrainians, want to break the unity of the slavic peoples, but we see what the situation is today, the whole and europe is already everything, you know, children must know, they must know history, in order for us to live, existed, it is impossible without history, if we already forget about this, then, probably, then, probably, the nation will cease to exist, our opponents, opponents abroad, history is being redrawn, criminals are being framed, and...
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she was found with great difficulty by her own father, lieutenant colonel stepan shakhmetov, carrying love through the roads of war, never. i did not lose hope of seeing my children again. in 1945 i found my eldest son misha, whom the nazis had taken to germany. after the war, stepan shakhmetov. my daughter and i settled in kobrin, where we lived many peaceful, happy days, but retained the memory of the children’s mass grave the nazis built in domachevo.
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the second one was given a pindle, but it seems like both are flying, and what different trajectories, prospects, 34 trillion, the us national debt mark has been reached, they live at someone else’s expense, and this is a very important element that the united states will try to preserve at any cost. all politics is based on this now, it’s very nice to talk about democracy, to actually make money from human blood. we have different motivations , these people... just want money, we are determined
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to create, thank you very much to our alexander grigorievich that we have order in the world and that we don’t have war, many don’t understand this, it’s like air that you don’t notice , when it ends, you begin to understand that you have lost, markov’s project is nothing personal, watch it on the belarus 24 tv channel, the tv news agency presents it, we don’t have it in the public domain. in the little months, the house of adpachynka zhdanovichy was relaxed, the days of the holidays have become the students , savoring the table of the most satisfying, like a bachytse , no one sleeps, the hour of the exam is tense, and cyapper... a fresh wind, is there plenty of space for skiers here
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, the students spent their winter holidays calmly and cheerfully. all sports are good, choose according to your taste, as you can see, natasha has already chosen, but you won’t go on the ice right away. at the beginning, physical education, therapy, and teaching became difficult for her. the hour is our sustrechy, and we were waiting for
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the most important changes, taking part in the great competition snow, ice and fantasy. you, napaina, do you want to save three happy mothers? no, you were thinking, damn it . matrun klyamentsena klyaus, saugasa byhauski. yana, as it seems, this is true. happy, dear, before that i gave birth to twins, and now matruna klimentsiina gave birth to seven. please feel free to celebrate your mother's day.
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hello, you are watching the program “say don’t be silent”, in the studio of victoria popova and tatyana shchorbina. and our guest today is political scientist vadim borovik. good afternoon. hello, vadim, we are very glad to see you again in our studios. last week, at one of the meetings, alexander lukashenko raised the topic of the sovereignty of our country. let's listen to
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what he said. we, russia and belarus are a sovereign and independent state. that everything, belarus is losing sovereignty, we are not losing anything, not only you, but also journalists, you see that on this sovereign territory, which belongs to our people, only we make decisions, and we act only in exceptional conditions that are beneficial for us . we remember that back in
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are interested in tearing belarus away from russia and there are unsighted politicians inside russia , which with their statements... the address of the former soviet republics create such an incorrect stir, so i often said that sometimes seemingly patriotic statements seem to be for russia mother, but in this way it is so unseemly expressed to this or that post-soviet republic that this causes caution, this should not be done, russia has quite normal pragmatic relations with belarus, friendly, fraternal, but we see that today we have strengthened thanks to the russian federations in military terms, also tactical nuclear weapons, are... a guarantee of our security and ensuring sovereignty, this is an opportunity for us not to divert huge funds to the armed forces, including, we will... naturally support the armed forces and give them due attention, but tactical nuclear weapons are a serious deterrent, allowing us to
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approach the issue of strengthening our military component in a more planned way, this is great support for belarus, including in an economic sense. in the russian market, as we are present now, economic security is the key to sovereignty. russia has completely opened its market for us, in this vein we can say that we have no problems, so we need... and interests shoulder to shoulder, but what is this message means? he said correctly, in what context is this our, our position, yes, we
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are together, that’s what alexander goryevich spoke about, we will build a union that will have no analogues in the world, it will be effective, economically, in security matters , in matters of some social standards, but we remain sovereign states, we ensure independence, he was not just talking about the independence of a union state. about the independence of belarus and russia within the framework of a union state, this is the thesis which we, in general, the republic of belarus , first gained sovereignty, especially when alexander lukashenko came to power, we defend it, the closest strategic relations with our traditional allies the russian federation, while maintaining sovereignty, look, any political campaign in the world, and there are people interested in getting their hands on this, it’s not like here we are, it’s always profitable. because - there is a change of political elites during elections, or the political elites retain power, in this situation it is very possible
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finance certain political movements, bring them to power, or destabilize the situation, already in this troubled water, catch the fish that is beneficial to you, yes, that is, it is always interesting, what interests you is uh, economics, yes, capturing certain markets, this geopolitical ambitions of some kind, this is a question: but unfortunately, but these are very tough approaches today in global international relations,
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no one looks closely at the fate of the ordinary man in the street who lives somewhere in some region people look at the situation, look at the map, see that this is beneficial today in the context of either economic expansion, or military presence, or otherwise needs to be absorbed. and it acts, and then the fate of a person, that he will have to move as a refugee or die , is of no interest to anyone, this is true, you understand, so for you and me today, what is important, this is what distinguishes us, look, this is what distinguishes our policy, no matter how our comrades try to present the president of belarus in some bad way, but that one the humanity that he shows towards the people will serve as an example for the majority. politicians all over the world, look, because he, thanks to his attitude towards the belarusian people,
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towards the belarusians, the common people, did not allow the republic of belarus to be drawn into military conflicts throughout the entire sovereign period of our history, and there were cases, not only now, yes , this is an attitude towards a person, something that is still the focus of our policy, not in words, in fact, a person, here we are, for example, an international dispute, a conflict through peaceful means, and even often the parties who are helping to resolve any confrontation, we try to find a common language with both sides, to sit them down at the negotiating table. our policy is aimed at ensuring that the common man, the common man, does not suffer, that is, our policy is more humane, that is, we are adequately aware of our role in the world. we do not lay claim to the territory, we do not have these global ambitions to redistribute something there, we want our position to be taken into account, to have
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a worthy place in the system of international relations, at the same time... we do not want to achieve results in the economy, militarily, politically, or otherwise at the expense of someone, on the contrary, we will try to work on the principle of plus for plus, yes, that is, you should it’s profitable to be with us, you should feel good with us , tell me one partner in the world who was not profitable to work with us, it was beneficial for everyone, ukraine was very profitable, yes, only for those to whom we did not submit, that is, to whom we did not give up, it was profitable to work, it was profitable for the european union, we processed petroleum products, the cleanest purification in the well... post-soviet space, we took inexpensive russian resources, processed them with the cleanest purification, petroleum products, please, transit, quality of transit, safety, infrastructure for them was built, please, ukraine we need help, which means they cleared the fields with our diesel engine, they didn’t have time to clear them, we sent them our tractors , supplied bitumen for roads, it’s not profitable for russia today, tell me, today we’re talking about that the russian federation has
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mutually beneficial trade and economic relations with us, and we make money from this, of course, but... isn’t this beneficial for russia, it is very beneficial for russia, especially in the current situation, the fact that we have preserved industry, then, that we have retained personnel , that we responsibly approach the fulfillment of our obligations, this is very beneficial for russia , look, belarus, well, thanks , among other things, and in many ways and primarily to the fact that this wise policy of lukashenko is not aimed at escalation, to find compromise options for cooperation, it was not easy
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to carry out an escalation, they want to make this gilya , this weight heavier, the middle east, they want to hang another weight on eurasia, but these are not issues of mutually beneficial cooperation, but these are questions of geostrategic planning, methods of developing territories and redistribution world , you know, different things, but our policy in this regard is very competent, the nato exercise, the largest in recent decades, is it worth fearing, the largest exercise since the end of the cold war, we... to any we take the exercises seriously , we are watching them, however , there should not be any panic, this is a normal process, our partners are learning, we take this seriously, in turn, we are also ready to respond appropriately to their actions on our continent, ending with responding to the question about lavrov , that is, what is lavrov talking about, that these revolutions, which, as we
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but on the territory of poland there are somewhere around 10 thousand american soldier, what not may not be alarming, that is , what poland is preparing for and what we should be afraid of in this regard, again in the light of lavrov’s statement, when he openly, loudly declares that just show up, we will defend, there are several aspects here, i would like in different aspects looked, firstly, you must always understand the other side, but in order to work with anyone, with any side, even your most dangerous opponent... you must, well , stand in his place, that’s right, stand in his place poles, of course, including them there are some concerns, but understand, our friends in washington are great masters at this, they managed to create such a nerve in eurasia of such non-reconciliation, mutual distrust and constantly exploit it, is it enough for you to convince one side that you are being threatened?
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it will begin to build up its military potential, to become stronger, the other side will be forced to respond, even if it did not have aggressive plans, you understand, yes, when they constantly add fuel to the fire, abe. this option did not suit certain countries, regarding poland, which means, first, that they have objective fears, well , listen, we say that there is a war near our borders among the belarusians, this causes concern, our territory
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is not deep, for us a military conflict is a disaster, you understand, those who like to blow other pipes, they don’t understand anything, in principle, even in military matters, i don’t pretend to be, i’m not an expert, but i’m saying that often there... they begin to join some neighboring armies, for example, i’m against this , we have a small depth of territory, in case involving us in a military conflict, by any of the parties, the consequences will be catastrophic for the economy, for infrastructure, for demography, this is precisely why we have tactical nuclear weapons, so we must still act as a sovereign state in these matters of ensuring national security, taking into account our allied obligations. nowhere to run ahead of the locomotive, and definitely not to participate proactively somewhere, the same is true for the poles, on the one hand, they have a war on the border, you know, on the border, they have refugees, naturally they have a certain
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tension, but there are questions for the poles, who created this tension, they spoke provocatively towards us in many ways, but in relation to belarus, they behaved brazenly in the elections on instructions, including from american intelligence, but they themselves were not against, that means , yes, yes, yes, yes, and they themselves were not against, yes, grodno, brest, they are not against vilnius to themselves, yes, that is, the americans were able to exploit this idea of greater poland very competently in their time, that is, they may have counted on it in 20, we didn’t, definitely didn’t we say, but in principle, what our intelligence services saw, what our government saw, during this campaign, they were not against it, i took part. an unfriendly attitude or distrust towards the polish side
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, including on our part, further, they then actively accepted certain representatives of the opposition on their territory and created headquarters there, from there, from this place, calling for belarus, that is, causing us direct economic damage, yes direct economic damage. territories were applied to us, the polish government of these persons protects, but i don’t even want to remember them here, we need to forget all these names, their actions towards us, we didn’t do anything bad to them, we never interfered in their elections, if you look at it like that, we already said in this the studio more than once that all sanctions, all unfriendly actions were provoked by them, we are going no further at all, so we are demonstrating in a civilized manner, without visas, this is a demonstration that we are a european state, we are in the center of the euro.
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