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information and analytical project current microphone in aired on belarusian radio, tv channel belarus 24, with you the presenter andrei sych, as well as our guest, chairman belarusian-lithuanian international public association, international forum of good neighborliness edikos egelavichus, hello, hello friends. taking into account

the certain specifics of our guest, we are accordingly discussing the lithuanian agenda, our relations with lithuania, the nature of, say, what is happening, what has happened so far. parliament is a multi-party parliamentary republic with the characteristic features of a presidential republic, the fundamental law is the constitution of the republic of lithuania, according to it , state power means parliament, president, government court.

having its own parliament, flag, anthem and coat of arms, nevertheless, the financial system of lithuania is controlled by scandinavian banks, and... in the media, that means western transnational corporations and politics, foreign domestic policy is dictated, dictated by the eec and nato, to put it correctly , which means it is like a protectorate of the us and a periphery of the eu. in soviet times, it was like lithuania and the baltic states in general were a showcase of the soviet union, now. it has become the backwaters of the european union, that is here is a recent example that very clearly shows, say, how scandinavian banks are managed in lithuania, now we have candidates preparing for the elections of the president

of the republic of lithuania, candidates for candidates must now be there well...

until, say, the moment of collecting signatures, some... then votes for yourself, at this level. yes, it turns out that the scandinavian bank regulates who can participate in the election process, well, let’s say, in this case, in the presidential election. in your opinion, why are relations between belarus and lithuania so are rapidly deteriorating, which is why lithuania is such a, let’s say, instigator in this matter. well, lithuania, as i already said, is... it is a protractorate of the united states, the periphery of the european union, it is at the forefront of various anti-russian sanctions and does not make independent decisions, and this leads to an increase in confrontation with the republic of belarus and the russian federation,

therefore it’s as if they are fulfilling and even trying to exceed the will of the owners, they are going into confrontation with the russian federation and the republic of belarus. in your opinion than the initiative to close borders is due to the fact that literally every time, almost every month, we see either a statement that another border checkpoint will be closed, or the news that it is closing, well, it reaches the point of absurdity, especially in various border areas in the baltic cities, poland, they are starting to display some kind of anti-tank hedgehogs there and so on, but one gets the impression that in many ways this is still some kind of media story to demonstrate. probably including some potential aggression on the part of belarus, while taking its own proactive steps from the point of view of destroying these intercultural, socio-economic ties, well, last summer two

border crossing points were closed, now on march 1, two more points have been closed since march 1 out of six, that means there are two transition points left, in my opinion it’s like... it’s like once again the western countries are lowering the iron curtain, well , why is this, well, i think, why can they do this, well, let’s say , maybe...

any challenge for the baltic countries and poland? well, you know, many in lithuania think that this visa-free regime has made our international forum of good neighborliness, because after several meetings with alexander grigorievich, well, our representative orek shvenchonya, it so happened that she talked with alexander grigorievich a couple of times, just she asked these questions about visa-free travel, and as soon as she asked for the first time out of ignorance, maybe by coincidence, maybe...

relations between belarus and lithuania, that’s how it is i would never have imagined this before, that because of friendship, because of how leopold the cat in the soviet cartoon, if you offer to be friends, then you are already becoming an enemy in lithuania, well, this is some kind of surrealism, i don’t know some, this... this visa-free period, let's say, as it seems to me, he really won the information war,

well, let's say, during the visa-free period, as far as i remember, more than 800, 800,000 residents have already visited the republic of belarus eu, they come to the republic of belarus, they see the streets are clean here, they see here friendly, well-disposed people, they see here that there is order in everything here, they have some kind of... break in the pattern, they think how it is, here in lithuania they show that here bears walk along the streets, with a bottle of vodka in their hand , they always show everything in such negative tones, they come here, but here they see something else, that’s when people start not to believe our lithuanian media, then people start to doubt that they write there , let’s even say about the latest events there in lithuania in...

i mean , there are also family and kinship ties, now this initiative to close the border with the republic of belarus, it’s probably even to a greater extent, well, first of all, should not be considered from the point of view of violating economic ties , as a violation of all kinds of family ties, opportunities to communicate, are you able to conduct a dialogue with people who are currently in the border areas? and is there any data about the opinions of these people, what they think about do they have any reaction to this?

well, you know, lately i’ve come across a lot of people who generally call, well, they know about our good neighbor forum, they call asking what we should do, where should we go, where should we run away, and the people who have relatives here have, but they, in principle, are more or less informed, and if they are friends with these relatives, then they are more...

they ripped him to pieces, and there was a lot of industry of all kinds, and even thermal power plants, and some of them have already been closed, reserved, this probably caused a lot of unemployment, and in order to somehow level this out, they opened the borders, and people who could not earn money in their

country were forced to go somewhere else, to the west , a lot... a lot of people left for england, a lot of people left for america, even that very one, in your opinion, this is some kind of deliberate, let’s say, approach, because, judging by your words, with the advent of the schengen zone this worked a kind of vacuum cleaner that was pumped out of the baltic countries population, by and large today there are lithuanians and latvians and estonians, they are boosting the economies of other states to which people have moved, no, i think this is a necessary measure for them. this is even a convenient measure so that no social discontent arises, so that people, keep in mind it is beneficial for the leadership for the administrators of lithuania, as we call them, the administrators of lithuania, because they are not trying for the people of lithuania, but they are trying for overseas owners, that’s why we call them administrators. well, by the way, i’m not so long ago i came across an opinion, they also wrote down

a resident of latvia, who, too, how typical this is for lithuania, is interesting. he indicated that the presidents and the ruling class in general in latvia are people who come there as if on a business trip, having dual citizenship, they simply serve their term, conditionally, as the president of latvia and then go back to live in the states or scandinavian countries countries, as far as this is relevant for lithuania, there was a whole pleiad of baltic presidents who were citizens some from canada, some from america, in lithuania we had valdas adamkus, he was a citizen. in america, he even, well, here in the media they even write, well, some alternative media write that he was even a cia employee from the year ninety-one, when the first color revolution was carried out in the soviet union, it was in vilnius , near the tv tower, there were many other events, so

this future president of lithuania actively participated there, so there... of course, after the collapse, when the soviet union, say, destroyed itself, this was immediately picked up by some western services there, the cia and everyone else there and began to do their work, by the way, they did this work efficiently, because these people are now completely reprogrammed, completely on the agenda of the west, and people like us, of course, such people are already waking up, starting to see this, but we still still have such people... in the minority, we have already partially touched upon the situation regarding infrastructure projects in lithuania, but your opinion is also interesting, did the situation change in any way after lithuania began to participate, and in general initiated many european sanctions against belarus, how do ordinary lithuanians feel about this, firstly, did it affect

their lives and how are things going with klaipetsky now? a port with a railway, because in... the news, including the lithuanian ones , there is indeed information that the situation is very serious, people are being laid off on the railways and so on, but how true this is is interesting this is first-hand experience from a person who lives in this territory? well, yes, i can just say what i read in the lithuanian media, they write that 1,600 workers were fired and those who were fired were paid 6 million euros. compensation, this means, not for every person, for everyone, for everyone, yes, yes, 6 million euros, what an impressive amount this is for lithuania, namely, if divided by all people, well, 1,600 by 6 million by 1.

from the russian and chinese cargo, which also went through the territory of belarus, yes, yes, that’s 10% of all cargo, latvia and estonia lost russian cargo, so in latvia i remember the figure was 16%, in estonia 27%, that’s what they lost and...

well then i don’t know, to be honest, how lithuania will survive, because well , it’s unlikely that the americans will somehow replace these cargo flows, and where, in fact , can we redirect the cargo that will arrive at the moment. in your opinion, for what purpose is the lithuanian government at the moment, firstly, for what purpose did they support extremists of belarusian origin, and secondly, with for what purpose do they continue to finance them and let's say...

litvinism, yes, litvinism pops up in the lithuanian media at those moments when they need to once again paint the image of the enemy, then they start, take this topic of litvinism from the shelf and start promoting it there, well it’s that lithuania has some kind of imperial ambitions, but it’s quite somehow, to be honest, well , lithuania and imperial ambitions sound ironic, well , usually they are now, i remember an article was published on january 17 of this year, an article was published, now i’ll tell you how it is it's called there

this means that this is said by those people whom they have accepted, well, such radical nationalists who really consider part of the lithuanian territory the current constitutional legitimate goal in order to conditionally expropriate it into the republic of belarus, for many, this is also the goal political, with the lady they are sheltering there now in lithuania, this would also be on the state agenda, if god forbid, she somehow managed to do it here, or those who stand behind her. could to carry out a coup d'etat in our country, lithuania would have questions of territorial integrity after this, do they really not realize this? well, nationalists are similar everywhere, i don’t know about

ukrainian nationalists. there they dug up the black sea with spoons, these nationalists are taking it away, appropriating our common history, appropriating it, so it seems to me that this is normal for nationalists, they need to stick out something, they need to inflate something, so that on the basis of this how to do it some of your own to substantiate your claim, your claim to power, that they are currently at the decision-making levers, i understand you, but it’s interesting, again, the lithuanian government, it’s clear that it’s somewhere...

ordinary people, i can say that they write to the database placements, where these people are, well , comments, i read a comment under this article, yes, the comments there were such that let’s drive out these enemies, that these enemies have settled here, well, there were quite a lot of such comments among lithuanians, but mostly the whole lithuanian mass, which is not immersed in some kind of political jungle, she doesn’t know about it, i doubt that many people read there... lithuanian newspapers are watched there, well, lithuanian television is watched, of course, yes, but well, those of our people who do not have our views on television looks and well, they understand that it’s like some kind of virus, i don’t know, well , people in general, well, then you can’t talk about anything with these people, that is, this topic in general is not discussed in lithuanian society, that radical groups are in the territory of this country, well, in general, a large

mass of people... i think a lot of people don’t know about this a lot of people, well, the one who is immersed in this, who is interested in this, well, of course, he expresses some kind of his opinion, just while we were going to the broadcast, the news came out that lithuanian customs officers said that the cars with russian numbers must leave lithuania before march 11, with russian numbers, since it seems to me that this was already russian before, now with belarusian numbers they must leave the territory of lithuania.

to take away real estate not only from legal entities, even from individuals, they are already preparing such bills, so where are we heading, this, this, this, i don’t know, this isn’t the thirty-third year already before the war, this is very interesting, but i just don’t quite understand how this will be implemented, people will be kicked out into the street or driven towards the border, that’s how now they are doing this to refugees who from asian and african countries

end up in the baltic states and poland. well, actually they are beating them to death with batons, that they also plan to beat up russian-speaking passport holders, say lithuania, latvia, estonia, and throw them out at the border, but this will be as strange as possible, well, i can to use the example of our estonian colleague chaulin, the man there went through this immortal floor, yes, when they are carrying, well, a harmless hysterical action in memory of his relatives, and in memory of his relatives, so they took him at this event, took away these portraits from him about... well, about the relatives of former relatives and well , at some point the police call him and say: come to the police, take these portraits of your relatives, a man dressed in a work uniform comes to the police, and they immediately hand him some kind of there's a agenda, signing, they take him to the border right in his work uniform, give him a kick in the ass and say: that’s it, go to the russian

side, you’ve been deported from here. i already voiced practical precedents, there are more than one such cases, there are already many such cases, listen, well, this is absurd, but is the european commission and the european parliament really not reacting? for such cases, because well , this is an open violation of human rights, you know, so that they don’t try, well, maybe you have some data, have you tried these people who face such problems should go to the human rights court, for example, yes, of course, you can go to the human rights court, firstly, you must go through all the courts in lithuania, so that you can then go to some european or at the un authorities, firstly, until you go through all the authorities in the lita, it will take... more than one year, and then to go to the european courts, it can take up to 5 years, it’s just until you solve this problem there , and maybe you won’t even decide, it could take ten years, and the person who doesn’t

i know, not everyone has enough strength to deal with courts for 10 years, and these are costs, this is money, time, everything else, look, well, let's get back to cars, do you have information about what is planned? what to do with these confiscated cars after march 11 , they will be put up for sale, i don’t know, disposed of, what are the options for the development of events, or is there an opportunity to somehow defend their property from people, well , i think they can even send help to ukraine how to send humanitarian aid to ukraine, an interesting way, let’s say, of providing assistance, yes, yes, i think they will even act in this way, because for, well, somewhere until recently.

they are doing this and they are already sending from the baltic territory , 750 million euros have been sent, they have been sent to the humanities , well, in general, and with money in all different ways , so now we will say that this is a good topic, this is a good topic for money laundering, and now they have touched upon ukraine, i’m also interested in your opinion. regarding what goals are being pursued the leadership of lithuania as a whole of the baltic countries, acting as such hawks of the events that are unfolding there, because as a rule, even somewhere, france and

germany are gradually talking about the need for peace negotiations, because the war will not end with the victory of ukraine, awareness this is gradually coming, but the main instigators of the continuation of this conflict are just

1,800 euros, which means for three rooms they paid 5,400 euros for one night, well, well, we know, they also published data that one madam feels comfortable in lithuanian hotels, but i... think that gradually this feeding trough will close, because feeding, say, a non-performing asset is currently unprofitable, and i think that in lithuania they also count their money and are much more optimistic treat them to stick to their own pocket, and not to the pocket of these people who are running along the border there, thank you very much for your opinion, for taking the time to take part in our program, the information and analytical project is relevant the microphone was broadcast on the belarusian radio tv channel belarus 24, with you was the presenter andrei sych, as well as our guest, the chairman of the belarusian-lithuanian international

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