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are the first person to see me like this, i feel like, you know, the organizer of some kind of drug cartel, in any society there are degenerates who definitely need to share something. i didn’t want, firstly, for it to be covered in blood, and secondly, i didn’t i wanted it to be turned, by analogy with ukraine, into manure for the endless fields of europe. belarusians learned a lot very quickly. this doll was not inflated in 1920, but they continue to maintain it. i would go and throw myself off a cliff like ostovsky’s heroine until the russian people achieve the goals outlined by the supreme commander-in-chief, i think that no, it won’t stop, this is the first military confrontation in world history that is happening live.

hello, the program say no is on air. be quiet, victoria popova and tatyana are with you today. but today we are on the hospitable platform of the business complex, which i mentioned at the very beginning, and here we are, as it were, with you in moscow, but in belarus, because the embassy territory, it implies such intimacy, you have already felt

the belarusian atmosphere, now those 5 minutes that we enter the frame, you know, i never felt, when i came on numerous tours to the republic, that i was in another country. we looked at how much money, uh, they invest the united states is in the electoral cycle, and there is a special website - grands.com, and we realized that now it will be fun and beautiful, as

usual, in the orange revolution, at the end of may we said this, instantly becoming enemies, well, we, it’s me and alexey anatolevich. my friend , co-host, for many years, instantly becoming enemies of the entire progressive belarusian public, because they complained about us everywhere, that we don’t understand anything, what kind of revolution, where did you get the idea, money won’t work, such tikhanovskaya, yes stop those kind of babariks, that same one, never sober up , brat, what are you guys doing, look carefully, it means that this was going down the drain, i think we received the last complaint about...

and let’s say, sorry , brothers, we don’t understand anything at all, neither in electoral cycles, nor in just the last, seventh evening , the announcement begins, and we see that all the belarusian media left as if on command, that is, they are gone, everything is over for everyone, that is , how nothing is updated, the ninth evening, the ninth, excuse me, the ninth, you see, i have already oberation of memory, in parallel.

and we think, what should we do, that is, we also cannot be holier than the pope, well , because this is a strange situation, it means there is such absolute silence here, and we have to say something, we are broadcasting to belarus , and an absolutely crazy amount of responses, that is, i had the feeling that all of belarus was watching us, all the cities, but our internet still didn’t work?

already aired, because these first days - morning, afternoon and evening, that is,

in parallel with me and all these people there stories, and i ’m responsible for a lot of everything there, and we also worked for belarus, it was a plague, well, you understand our question, armen, here you go, what do you care about belarus, but i already know i saw so much blood as a result of these orange revolutions. i didn’t want the very warm , soulful streets of minsk and mogilev, babruisk and grodno, brest, i haven’t been to brest, but i read a lot about it, naturally, yes, i didn’t want all this, firstly , they were covered in blood, and i understood perfectly well that it would be even worse than in ukraine, because you, you’ll probably remember there now, in addition to this.

complained about us, they admitted that we were right, and the fact that later, hundreds, up to a thousand, probably, citizens of belarus wrote thank you, this is fraternal help, it seems to me that these are the moments for which something is probably worth do, you did something good in life, you saved the country from bloodshed, our relations, as it seems to you , have improved recently since the twentieth, if you count, have you got...

the same etymology as in in the case of ukraine, they supported it, but this is our case, this is in general, i was born in this area , here everything is just native to me, i was born here on clean ponds, how long it takes to walk here - 5 minutes, and they show me, that means footage, and our correspondent works here, right in these days, some idiots came, it means that here right next to the embassy, ​​they set up, it means tikhanovskaya is our president, there’s this famous carousel here. when they were lining up and i looked and yes , that’s when they started shouting freedom

to their younger brother, it’s like it’s not patriotism russian is different, by the way, yes, you’re right in saying that it’s always their idea, that is , they know it, we all really liked it, we liked the two definitions that alexander grigoryevich lukashenko gave, the first is that he comes here not to visit, but home, he said at... at the parade on may 9, yeah, the second he once said that a belarusian is a russian with a mark of quality, that’s how we ’ve always treated it, well, that’s what... that’s what we have too has taken root, so to speak, in belarus, well, you understand, no one will divide, well, well, everything is one common thing, and the attitude has always been like this, and armen, now we have an election campaign in the country, and you probably followed it, there is an even more important period ahead, these are the presidential elections next year, by analogy with

the previous elections, you notice something suspicious , it’s time to sound the alarm, or is everything calm, well...

at least tell them what it is, tell them about ostrovsky’s collaboration there, about might god, this video has gone viral, i ’ve seen it in so many formats in general, that is, apparently someone is just like that specially cut it, separately about maybe, god, separately about the creation of this one, it was just a collapse, but... then after 2 months there, from the lips of well-known journalists in belarus, i heard my version, i heard what, why my version, i i told this from documents; in fact , what i told differs little from the exhibition that is in the museum of the great patriotic war in minsk,

an absolutely wonderful museum, i was there, it differs little from the museum in mogilev or bobruisk. historical facts, just different the question is that no one thought that this would come to light , you know, that is, there was an absolute feeling that this idiocy, yes, it can only be in ukraine, our dad bandera, but i said, guys, what ’s the difference, then here the same thing was just smaller, the question is different, what if - ukraine forced it all, all these jumps around collaboration, then in belarus, because according to minimal estimates, everyone ...

poles, americans, british, but this is madness, madness, but nevertheless it happens, but the fact that society has become different, the fact that the authorities have made absolutely correct conclusions for themselves is an expensive condition, but what do you think is the reason for this openness, yes, that now everything is transparent, firstly, everything became transparent after the is began, because that this is the first military confrontation in world history that is taking place live, yeah, it’s never even been shown like this.

this will be their payment for supporting lukashenko, i ’m not a lazy person, i took a calculator, calculated this figure and announced it in the next broadcast, you see, this is a real-time counteraction mode, yeah. so what’s there to hide, well, yes , there is a base, but before that there weren’t these bases, there were always, well, there were, it’s just that the belarusians were tactfully silent, and the poles pretended that the belarusians didn’t

know what was happening there, well, the poles how many times in history have we gone through these lessons, so to speak, of polish aggression, when their ideas, military plans, in general, ended with the division of poland itself, well , you understand, poland has... a historical complex failed empire, it is precisely this complex that prevents the poles from developing, because they always have these flashbacks, these unclosed gestalts, if we are talking about belarus, yes, then this is grodno, this is brest, and so on, yes, they were trying this soft soft power somewhere. push, but nothing worked, as a result, they have questions not only for belarusians, but the question is, they have questions for the russians, for ukraine, and even for lithuania, you know, what kind of state can

to develop, if you are constantly following some kind of complex, you know, it ’s the same as i don’t know, so i would walk there all day long, muttering, here’s mogilev, during the first world war, our headquarters was located there, there’s there were prisoners in bekhov and there was even a song that in bekhov... there was not a prisoner, but a faithful friend, well, no matter how long it would take for me to be sent to hell, so good, armenians, well, in real time, these skirmishes are already happening entire countries and states, this is no longer a manageable process, as you think, not manageable, but for this there must be a detente, and i even think that this will simply begin to gradually change the political elites to those who will simply write off all this. they are insane, whoever remembers the old, look out, but from this point of view, you see, uh, we look at things the same way, with us, what with

us, what with you, uh, dostoevsky, what the great wrote fyodor mikhailovich, that the russian people have a messianic idea, to give happiness to europe, sometimes it can be done by force, that’s why we have such an attitude towards this, but we won’t last long. let's take a break, i remind you that we have a telegram channel, say don't be silent, subscribe, ask questions and suggest guests, we are connected! the program “say don’t be silent” is on air again, and today our guest is a tv and radio presenter, journalist, publicist, historian, political scientist, armen gosporyan, if we speak.

not political elites, these are political elites and there is no one to change for, the whole point is that these are managers, they are not politicians, a politician would not shoot so many shots at himself in different parts of the body, if there were politicians in poland, they would not pump would. situation so, they would have found - then much more obvious paths, they acted head-on, as at waterlow, you know, that is, they were so convinced that neither the authorities nor society could oppose anything, that plan b was not even invented , if the option with tikhanovskaya doesn’t work, then what to do, this is not politics, this is management, politics is... when you have two, three or more options, well, you said that in the twentieth year this doll did not was pouting, but they continue to support her and no one else

no, who will you use? moldova, then there were lists of russian liberals , then belarusians, we had this opposition, well , i don’t know, you can call it belarusian there, but the warsaw idea of ​​the republic of belarus subjected us to sanctions, well, the apogee there was already the twenty-second year, among i received the first sanctions from the european union, well, all of them in a row, the last one was

criminal. a period of 10 years from confiscation of property in ukraine, that is, i myself - i feel like, you know, the organizer of some kind of drug cartel, because marriage is just world, well, by the way, regarding ukraine, in november and last year you were sentenced to this term of 10 years, but it could not come into force, because it turned out that a complaint had been filed with the court of appeal, and recently it was considered, the appellate court did not make any decision, it postponed the hearing , now to may, well, because it is so - you even understand, it is considered that there is a classic of the genre, the trial of georgiy dimitrov, but nothing worse from the point of view there jurisprudence, justice, there can be no common sense, it’s just a disgrace, and at the same time dimitrov won it, and here it’s even worse, that is, what is this deformation of the information war, what is it like

? you see, the problem is that they also understand perfectly well that there will be no extradition to them, and therefore they do not pay attention to any legal formalities at all, in order to comply with all this, so that at least there is some way... then it was like international law, for them the factor itself is simply important, you know, it’s like trotskyism, then there is, but it’s not the result that is important, but the process, so they seem to get pleasure from it. so one gets the impression that these orange revolutions are a process, in many ways yes, this is an element of controlled chaos, and belarus essentially became the first country where it did not work, at the moment, but no, i’m lying, well in this a large volume , and the first thing, it’s just that the first failure occurred in 1919, also in august in moscow, when uh-huh, when no one came out, as they

expected.

i understood perfectly well what would happen now said, i turn on, listen, and i feel how the hair began to grow on my head, because the president began to speak in the words that were in my book, the denazification of ukraine, and after that ukraine itself said that gosporyan - this is a car of the 21st century, adding there, it means the ideologist of the defeat of tikhanovskaya, that is, such a cerberus cerberus, the book was written back in 2017, moreover. “this is a very funny story, we were sitting on the air and talking about denazification, i started talking about germany, and dimka kulyakov says: “listen, sumbat, no one knows this anyway, write a book,” then the assistant to the president of russia, we also talked to him about this, and he also became interested, he says, no one knows anything at all , i need a book, so i wrote this book, it passed, well, well, in

expert circles, yes there... the experts discussed it, this is not a book of a manual for military operations, yes, it was a polemic with the ukrainian opposition, with yanukovych, with azarov, with all these, with this. remember how in the movie "the hussar's slot, you papa mephistophius." he is spinoza. well, besides this 24x7 workload that you saw in the fog of war right now, how can we

understand what is happening? you know, i very often remember the words of anton ivanovich denikin, what if in this difficult moment... history would not have found those russian people who would have challenged, we would have become manure for the endless fields of europe. fortunately, denikin wrote further, we belong to a great, albeit tortured people. so i began to remember this very often .first, i saw rebirth, this is the second time, yes, we have everything the same, i’m telling you, one thing is simple. when people whom i would never have suspected of any patriotism in my life, they all

started beating ours right away, and it was fantastic, of course, how many people were involved in humanitarian work, they continue, as i know, they continue, and you look . the majority have not changed anything since the time of pushkin, we are lazy and incurious,

he has incentives, the majority, that the majority will watch whatever, and in general their job is to turn on the tv in the evening and watch the series, this is the mysterious russian soul, yes, when, as you said, with a click they got up and went. do something, now the russian people can’t be stopped, i think no , i think it’s impossible, until the russian people achieve the goals outlined by the supreme commander-in-chief, i think no, it can’t be stopped, but you understand, for everyone it became, it became part of such internal... human integrity, of course, none of us thought that it would happen like this, well, how do you agree that this is a civil war, and here even in ukraine, of course, from the very beginning there was nothing to talk about, but this is such

a terrible price, and for healing, for brother to kill brother, you know, if they told me 30 years ago, what will i do in life?

still, let’s talk a little more about ukraine, zelensky’s five-year term of office expires in may, may 20, yes, yes, he doesn’t want to go to the polls, what do you think about the figure of zelensky in general at this historical stage? you know, in nineteen i was, again, this is how it turns out, i’m always in the minority, i say about this that it’s not a shame to be in the minority, it’s a shame to be in the stage, uh, 20, it was, april 21, the second round, in moscow the expert was like this, election night, i he came and said, guys , listen, now there will be a war, look carefully at this man, can’t you see that he has a napoleon complex, sumbatich is all good,

what a napoleon, you , he doesn’t get out of corporate events here, that’s it, he’s a libertarian, he’s there for marijuana, i say, what does this have to do with it, look carefully, it means that the epiphany began at the first normandy format, which is also the last with his participation, because the representative of russia, a very famous person, came out and said: “this is khlestokov.” he was extraordinary in his ease of thought , i still thought that maybe, okay, he didn’t want to listen to us, i honestly thought that maybe he would listen to lukashenko, and he did listen to him, which is the most interesting thing, and nodded , then what happened, he started to be rude to his napoleon complex, because initially yes...

healthy people who work in production, they will not return to the country

, everything is mined, how many years will it take to clear the mines and how much money will it cost , and so on and so forth, that is, he simply destroyed the country, because no one in the west will invest money in its restoration, remember how in forty-six, well, don’t remember, but you know that in forty -six there was a press conference by churchill , sir winston asked: they will come out after some time, the scary thing is that

the prospects for the state have been destroyed , you you think that ukraine will cease to exist as a state, but no, you see, look what is meant by the concept of a ukrainian state, after all , excuse me, there is a belarusian rada in exile, there’s the churvila, she’s beautiful there, how old is she , 94 years old? she also considers herself, excuse me, a representative of the belarusian government, that is , will ukraine be a subject of politics, or will it still be... now we can already imagine a simple option, yes, poland takes the eastern seat of galicia and volyn, romania takes the chernovidsky region, in the end it was given by the fuhrer of the great german reich adolf alozevich hitler. ukraine may exist, for example, in the format of zhytomyr region, vinnytsia region and a couple more, can it exist?

another question is that to what extent this state will be a state as such, and not a bandustan, because let ’s not forget, we don’t control the circulation of weapons by anyone, it’s all over, these people, they are used to killing, this is what they will do, they they will go to sow grain, we remember, how long did it take after the war, yes, for all this to settle down, and this, excuse me, during a super-tough situation. positions of power, yeah, on the territory of the same belarus panomarenko, and he, excuse me, is not a pacifist at all, he is not a tolstoyan, he was by no means a leader. headquarters of the partisan movement, but you understand that now such methods and norms are impossible, because it generally contradicts the western understanding of democracy, and how else will you do it? here is an important question, but you have all this banditry, it is already enshrined in law, plus you

imagine, a 10-year-old person is told only one thing: you are lucky, you gave birth. with a ukrainian, the whole world owes you, and then it turns out that the whole world doesn’t owe you, and now you’re in this state of euphoria, you don’t need to do anything, you understand what the difference between belarus and ukraine is, alexander grigorievich constantly talks about that we need to work better, we need to develop, if we can work in principle, yes, if something doesn’t work out for us, let’s be for...

you know, as it was written back in the green van, a living witness of your child frivolity, and zelensky knows too much , and under no circumstances should he start telling something like that, now we ’ll take a break for a while, after a short pause we’ll return to the conversation again, for now subscribe to our telegram channel, say don’t be silent, all our episodes search on the youtube channel belarus 1 on the beltelerokpaniya website. on the air again, say don’t be silent, our guest is a brilliant blogger, famous publicist, historian, armen gosporyan. the question is that the belarusians, after all, you said, woke up and

somehow quite quickly, and you notice changes in the ukrainians during this svo, so that they change their point of view, like someone, like... the belarusians listened, we didn’t call for something, we didn’t invest in head to god posekism, we simply told what we ourselves see, uh-huh, what we went through and gave a forecast of how it would develop, every next day showed that everything we said was so. ukraine is a different story, post-maidan ukraine, living by the principle: “remember a stranger, here is a ukrainian ruler ." a stranger can be understood as anyone, even a native of ukraine. with all this, deep down, there is a plan b. if the russians come,

we will be brothers again, the russians will help. listen, i have sincerely seen the light in 2016, when one unknown ukrainian political scientist told me live on air: your great-grandfather is buried in kharkov, so you will come and restore him, nothing has happened yet, yes, that is, there is nothing left to restore, but he already knows this, well what a terrible psychology still consumer, no, uh, you understand, mm, a native of the kherson region, if my memory serves me right, lev davidovich trotsky, once very accurately noted that it’s worth... just giving the little russian peasant this merchant in the depths of his soul the opportunity to make something in spite of and problems you won’t get around to, and that’s exactly what happened

, you know, what also amazes me is this psychology of ukrainians, i recently talked with a person who, since 2014... the lining of a jacket, they will get a party card communist party of the russian federation, they will get a thank you note from the parquet letter from the administration of the president of belarus, this is the public, you have nothing to do with them...

of course not, but do they need a restored ukraine is also generally a question, if it is in the format of anti-russia, antiberus, yes, it is needed, and if it is in the format uh, prodigal son , yes, this model of christian repentance, then of course, they don’t need it at all, but theoretically you are even considering the possibility of reuniting russia, belarus and ukraine, but i would really like this, you understand, here’s mine generation... "we live with this trauma, we didn’t understand what was happening, you know, none of us

realized then in december of ninety-one what the lowering of the flag meant, we weren’t aware of it, absolutely, that is, despite the fact that we were all already running around with with us yeltsin and kabetz, trikalor at ladskon, it was all, but we did not understand what the collapse of the country was, i can tell you when i realized it. it’s the beginning of the spring of ninety-two, the sportekexpress newspaper publishes the table of the football championship, i look and don’t see where dynamo minsk is, what a find, dynamo minsk, where, where it’s like a dynamo kiev, where it’s a pity, where , when something personal began to disappear, and from yours, absolutely, and this moment when it began, began to fade away,

it also sincerely amazes me, that is, since 2008 , cia officers sitting in the sbu building in kiev, this was when valentin nalyvaichenko first came to the post of head of the security service of ukraine, everyone puts on such innocence on their faces, like nothing like this has ever happened, it’s strange that no one knows that the staff specialists are from the alliance led all these processes in ukraine. in including the germans, that there are representatives of the english special evacement force

, seriously, guys, this is like such a great secret, i think that all this media noise, delight, these statements are exactly because , that was the calculation, it seems to me that the leak was generally from scholz, this was done on purpose, of course, firstly, he got away with it, he says what kind of missiles, can’t you see that the russians are standing on their hind legs, what kind of missiles, what are you talking about, and secondly, he thereby cut off his comrades, the president of france, whose wife and mother are in after macron got in there, because in one bottle, he was waving a flag there, that he will be the main one in supporting ukraine, he received from everyone from lub, even from estonia, this is generally rare big, scholz, so to speak, presented him with allaverdy. my question, this

information noise, is it... will russia continue to look back at europe after this time has passed, i think not, but you know, there are no people in the world now more daring than us, we abandoned a challenge to everything, we know, such a collective dartanian, we are in a state like this, we are on our own

, i’m fighting because i’m fighting, that we were brought to this, we didn’t want, we didn’t want this, we offered so much, let's resolve the issues, we have been told all the time that this is , in fact, you know, again, so that every belarusian understands, this is what alexander grigorievich said, the more you build training bases here, pump in money, you will definitely get that i will go next presidential term, okay they have brought it up, you can often hear that russia is fighting alone with the entire collective west. support in the world , look at these sports games and in russia, the youth festival and so on, just for many, it is now very dangerous to admit that he is morally or mentally with

the russian, because we are like melentin, with during the invasion of the huns, europe did not see such horror, this is us, but in fact we are kind, good, but still armanov, how many people come, no matter what, to the fact that this is dangerous, even the same games in sochi or the youth festival, which already has the first victim, already in latvia members of the hockey team were kicked out of this hockey team, let them drink soda, it helps with heartburn. "we remained the same people who we were, we had a very strong, christian, real russian principle that moved us, we remained like that, and armen, thank you so much again for the fact that we are the first belarusians who took from interview you after the famous events of the twentieth year, and i want

so that our forecasts would still be less apocalyptic, or something, right? we say goodbye to you for today, goodbye, goodbye , armen gasparyan is speaking now, dear belarusian friends, you know, i will be different from everyone, probably the guests of this wonderful program, i will not wish you anything, you already have everything, save what you have, think with your head, live with your heart, this is the most important thing, i repeat, everything else is yours... and the fact that we love you in russia, in my opinion, means absolutely nothing to you secret. i hope to come soon.

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