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microphone on air on the belarusian radio , tv channel belarus24, with you is the presenter andrei sych, also our guest, the chairman of the belarusian party belarus, oleg romanov, hello, i will not list all the regalia, because our program is not enough, and a member of parliament and a doctor philosophical sciences, let's dwell on this, oleg aleksandrovich, in your opinion, what is happening in the world now is reaching the point of absurdity , in fact, when they begin to mock, literally mock, make caricatures of the pope , it would seem, such... an

inviolable figure in some kind of encroachment into this area, why does it come to this, why do they begin to allow themselves, say, this kind of political discussion, even... let's say so, although we have seen that on the territory of ukraine the attitude towards religious figures is quite specific , but here such a representative of western culture, say, religious including, he was usually unshakable, because zelensky in general met with him, and it would seem that this figure was untouchable, but everything went, let’s say, along a different path, which is connected with , well, let’s probably start with the general, we’ll generally follow this path of movement from the general to the specific, if we start with the first part of your question, what’s happening in the world, the movement of tectonic plates is taking place, well , this is an image, if formulated more strictly rationally , then changes occur throughout systems of the world order, if i don’t go into history there, but if we talk about

the last decades, the following happened: after the collapse of the soviet union , the collapse of the bipolar system, where there were two large poles, the soviet union and the usa, this is bipolar. led by the united states of america , a unipolar system , a unipolar world was established , it was also sometimes called allies, in principle this system could be stable, so... analyze objectively, regardless of the subjective factor, regardless of the ideology of the united states, there elites of the usa and europe, it could be sustainable if america pursued a course more or less beneficial or at least acceptable

to the rest of the world, but it took the path of such an arrogant disregard for the interests of countries that exist, except for about 200 of them in the world, except for the united states, it has followed the path of such stupid enrichment at the expense of the rest of the world and a contemptuous disregard for the needs, needs of countries of peoples outside the west, outside of themselves , loved ones for them. it is clear that this caused at first it was so restrained, or rather, restrained in the sense that it was restrained in the sense that. well, not explicitly stated, but the further it goes, the more clearly expressed discontent on the part of other countries and peoples. at the current stage of historical development, this is already the mainstream, the mainstream is associated with dissatisfaction with the united states, its policies with

the need to form a multipolar world. our president, our policy for many decades has been aimed precisely at this, at the formation of a multipolar world, where... the interests of non-western countries are accepted, respected, they can protect and realize their interests, so this is the general context. as for the pope, his statement also needs to be analyzed deeply, i am not ready for such a comprehensive analysis here right now, but i want to say the following: the pope is not, to put it mildly, not an ordinary character, he is one of the representatives of the world elite, representatives of so called old elites, there are new ones. elite, old elite, uh, this is a person who has enormous formal and even greater informal influence in the world, this a person who is connected by various connections , ideological, financial, uh, these elites are intertwined with each other and family relationships, i’m talking about the pope, in

general, an old elite, in this sense, his influence in the world is enormous, well, even if we take the formal side, this there are about one and a half billion catholics all over the world, primarily, of course, latin america. this is southern europe, this is part of africa, well, in other regions of the world the influence of catholicism is also great. so, therefore, the statement of the pope must be taken completely seriously. it expresses the interests of some part, part of the world elites of the western world, who are aware of the inevitability of changes in the world order and... that it is necessary to enter this new world order while minimizing their losses while preserving their influence and their weight in this emerging new world, they are aware that losses cannot be avoided,

well, perhaps, not just territorial, but not exactly losses, but that they need to make some compromises, maybe sacrifice something, hence his... position associated with the possibility of peace in the post-soviet space, in ukraine, and so on. zelensky’s hysterical reaction to this matter is related. firstly, with the fact that the situation in the world is murderous for him in the literal and proper sense of the word, he represents the party of war, peace is completely unacceptable to him for many, many reasons, he is not needed there, most importantly, he will simply be allowed into from my point of view, the expense is physical, he knows too much, he carried out activities that, to put it mildly, did not advertise.

such a political mainstream, it’s more like such testing of the waters on the part of some of the political and financial elites of the west. well , you just touched on an interesting topic, that poperimsky really represents a certain part of the western establishment, but it seems that the second part of this western establishment is represented by such ardent hawks who are really ready for open confrontation, confrontation. representatives of france are openly talking today about what is necessary...

advantageous today, it would really be , well, here’s my theory: it seems to me that the western world, because if , let's say, trump wins the presidential election, he can really for...

he gave back, he said there that no, no, this is not now, we are thinking about the future, this is a statement took place at a meeting with the leaders of opposition parties in france, each of whom almost either unequivocally or with minor reservations, but condemned this statement by macron, thereby, well, even in the political establishment of france this idea does not find support, if you still look at this broader topic, okay, suppose this is indeed such a provocative statement, but behind it... there is some kind of reality and much more serious people than macron himself, who are generally

ready to unleash this kind of conflict, a direct conflict between nato and russia. what does this mean? we will recall the concept of national security of the russian federation, which states that the russian federation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons, all their types, tactical, strategic, in the event of direct aggression against a country, against a russian one. from russia, including, as far as i remember, both the president of the russian federation and smaller figures commented one way or another and said that if france does not have red lines, we will not have them, some of the officials, the press -secretary of the president, said the following: well, this will mean an inevitable conflict with all its dimensions, including the possibility of using weapons of mass

destruction, what does this indicate, this speaks of the possibility of collective suicide of humanity about... burning out civilization on surface of planet earth, are the hawks ready for this, well, probably not, so i would not give a high probability to this scenario, however, roughly imagining the intellectual, moral, simply human level of the leaders of the western world and those people who are behind them, i can’t rule it out completely , look, when there was, for example, the caribbean crisis, yes, the beginning of the sixties, at least there was someone to talk to, in fact, there was someone to talk to, the same president kennedy, who then headed the united states , or the period of aggravation of the early seventies , well, which ended with detente in the mid-seventies, in our country was led by the repeatedly ridiculed leonid ilyevich brezhnev, who does not deserve such an attitude towards

himself, he had mistakes, major mistakes, but he was a front-line soldier, he was a man who had actually gone through the war, knowing... what war is and basing his policy on the thesis, again many times by our liberals, if only there would be no war, but really if only there would be no war, because what war is, i think, is different now let’s rethink, many now see what war is when it actually takes place on someone’s territories, well, in cities, villages, which were just recently peaceful and creative, well, more so.

families, they do not value life as the highest value that must be continued, and there are even some elements of satanism in their ideology, and therefore in their activities, so it is completely impossible to rule out that these are the people who are now responsible for carrying out politics, foreign policy, military policy of the west, that they will not follow this catastrophic scenario, i can’t , in fact, really... the situation is complicated, and i , for example, have come across this version that this statement by macron, it is largely connected with the upcoming elections in france, supposedly he is thus flirting with radical nationalists, but it seems to me that this version actually does not correspond to reality, because france today really behaves like such a tough hawk, in my opinion, we have already

discussed several times both in our program and i voiced in my projects that europe is on the verge of a major transformation. and one gets the impression that france in this transformation is not even fighting against russia, but for its dominant position in - this, in this space of the future europe, because we see that germany is somehow being kicked deep - under the plinth, and well unfortunately, i think that a repetition awaits us; every time in history, when the germans begin to feel offended and infringed, that same spirit of national pride appears. and here's the wish to restore historical justice , what this leads to, at least we have already repeatedly experienced in our history, the most interesting thing is that, as a rule, the germans are shown a certain direction of their problems and the trouble in which they find themselves, so your opinion is interesting, taking this into account transformation of europe, is there an internal confrontation between state leaders,

because just an hour before the broadcast i read the news that, in my opinion, on the 15th... just the other day , the leaders of france, germany and poland are gathering in germany, what is surprising, in fact, for me, is that poland was brought to the negotiating table, because as a rule, it was a permanent berlin-paris axis that governed the territory of the european union, one way or another, achieving a majority when making certain decisions in various government bodies, so i wonder why they are bringing poland to the negotiating table as one of these...

remark, i will fully support you in the fact that you correctly saw the historical context. germany, the germans are a great country and a proud people who, through their humiliation, national humiliation is compensated, sometimes in inadequate forms, but this, nevertheless , we must be aware of this and not force the great people to react to that humiliation in this way, well, for example, we can talk about something, that the treaty of versailles, what was it? was it a mistake of the western anglo-saxon diplomats, or was it , on the contrary, a far-sighted move in order to then, by manipulating discontent in germany,

fish in this troubled water and bring the fascists to power there, then also manipulate them, and, well, the first world war the war, i won’t go into now, it was also a reaction to the situation in which germany found itself, so now we can really expect that germany will react in some way. another conversation : did they bleed her? for some reason it seems to me that these last decades of the implantation of liberalism, the erosion of the tefton spirit from the consciousness of the germans, they did not pass without a trace. isn't today 's germany toothless? well, i don’t have an answer to this question yet, history will tell. as for the general situation in general, my position is next: europe, a united europe was, now to a much lesser extent remains a major... political player, one of the possible poles of the world, so we started with where, the formation of a multipolar world, what kind of multipolar world is this?

well, of course, the usa will remain one of these poles, but this is a united europe, this is russia, this is china, this is india, this is the islamic world, latin america, we are here, i do not set out to list them all, but just to understand what it is beyond the poles, so, of course, they have their weight, they are not equal. each other, perhaps coalitions, very difficult relations between them, so europe, america, realizing that a multipolar world was being formed, played to weaken any pole that could challenge it , what they did to europe, they destroyed it economically, one of these steps - it was the undermining of the northern flows, on which the power of europe rested, strong industries, this is not... financial speculation of wall street, i’m talking about the usa, this is not this headquarters banking economy, where it was through banking speculation that economic

domination, economic dominance, and this is rather the economy of production, i do not exclude, of course, the importance of european banks, european financial institutions, but nevertheless, to a greater extent this is production, high-tech production, but no matter how high-tech it is. it still needs energy, it needs resources for its progressive development, it was precisely this needle that america broke with cheap resources, they came almost exclusively from russia, and, of course, there are norway has its own oil, let’s assume, and so on, but this is clearly not enough to support the industrial economy of europe, in exchange for cheap russian gas, america... lived its own gas, well, well, by the way, i’m also very interested in your opinion, how doctor of philosophy, that’s it , well, we’ll move away from the topic a little, i’ll ask you

to comment on how they, how they manage to do this, they always expose their dirty tricks with some proud, important names, here’s the same expensive liquefied natural gas, they designated as molecules freedom, they liberate russia, the molecules of freedom give, let’s say, this opportunity to act freely, in that same europe, well, how can you heat up the entire civilized conventional world with money, we already understand that this is not exactly a name referring to western europe, but, but how can this happen, you know, i may not speak in a politically correct way, but it seems to me that this is a centuries-old history of colonization and in order to clothe, to put it mildly, not very attractive such colonization activities, but essentially the destruction of entire peoples, this

is... in other ways the weakening of europe occurs , what are these a number of other ways, if we still talk about them, this is an offer to europe of a completely unviable ideology, the ideology of neoliberalism, the essence of which is to follow all sorts of human whims, once upon a time there was such a prominent russian philosopher, i took his ideas to a large extent, alexander sergeevich panarin, he wrote that neoliberalism made

the following substitution: freedom of the individual, it replaced the freedom of instinct, if before there was freedom of personality, freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of creativity, true real freedom, although well, also with certain reservations, now this is freedom of instinct, freedom of all kinds of sin, all kinds of evil, debauchery, this is what is called human freedom, to change gender, to do whatever it is everything that pleases, any forms of consumerism and so on, this... decades of this ideology could have passed without a trace, they have greatly weakened the spirit of europe, although i do not want to say that it has been completely destroyed, there are still no healthy forces are quite strong, but weakening nevertheless occurred, this is the migrant crisis, this is another way, is it by chance that in the tenth years , completely wild, from a perfect point of view , decisions were made by invitation, and not even by invitation, but simply by opening borders for migrants, they endless streams

filled the most... germany, france, sweden, britain and so on. and it turns out that not just anything is changing, but the appearance of the people is changing, because we can talk as much as we want, none of us are racist, we don’t consider anyone better, worse, but the fact that each nation has its own ethnic foundation, its own demographic foundation is undoubtedly, when it is eroded, after some time there will be a change in everything, the political system, economic activity. theses regarding allowing migrants into german territory, but what is most interesting is that this did not go anywhere, several years later, when they already began to talk about the migration crisis as a

problem... scholz, when he came to power, he from the rostrum of the bundestag, said that we are a country of migrants, we must make it as easy as possible for people to visit our country, this is precisely one of his theses - that is, in my opinion, to obtain citizenship under the accelerated german program, they really began to actively oppose this, but as we understand, the opinion of ordinary germans , as a rule, remains with them, in contrast to... the position dictated by the ruling class in germany, this is a really big problem, we see how it spills out onto the streets of european cities, this is exactly what we are talking about we say, probably , the cities are really being eroded , i absolutely agree with you here, but this peasant uprising that we see today, it really creates a big problem for european states, for those people of supranational bodies, including those who

dictate our own interests, including this is why we are seeing the same struggle with farms against the backdrop of ecology, the green agenda, when they say, well , theses reaching the point of absurdity, that farting cows, their belching, are the main problem, not large enterprises, it’s just a farting cow, it destroys the ozone layer, we’re all about to burn with vad flames from the sun, let’s just say, well, these are theses, one way or another they intersect with the events in ukraine. unfortunately, in any case, all politics, the geopolitics of our region is tied precisely to this state, one of the most discussed theses at the moment is whether zaluzhny can become zelensky’s successor, i’m interested in your opinion in this area, because today many are trying speculate on this topic, and there are two versions, one of them is that zelensky is sending a prisoner into exile on

the territory of great britain, but... the diplomatic service in great britain is a completely different status, no one can tell you that you are a military man and cannot apply for a post there, for example, the same president, because you have already studied international relations, influenced these international relations, enough handshakes in high office circles, so what do you think about this? well andrey, i will say that both of these scenarios are real, by the way, they do not contradict each other, it seems to me that if zelensky had his way, he would simply deal with him, but there is no such will, so he is forced to do what he is told. as for zaluzhny, yes, indeed , this is a transfer of the cartridge, well, let’s put it this way, from yes to such a spare, spare carbine, from where it can be, it can be obtained at any moment,

in this sense, i would not rule out zaluzhny’s political career, but i wanted i would like to sharpen this thesis, one of the scenarios, we don’t know what the future will be, the future is always not...

in the world of ninety-six, when the first chechen company was mediocrely stopped, not finished, but stopped. was there a hotbed of terrorism in the north caucasus? no , economic, political, any problems were resolved, no, on the contrary, this was perceived by those terrorist forces that were then operating in the north caucasus as a manifestation of russia’s weakness and then terrorist attacks, kidnappings and...

how they negotiate on equal terms, and by the way speaking they achieved they sat down opposite, so to why this led to the fact that vladimir putin, when he came to power, was forced to launch a second chechen campaign to destroy this hotbed of terrorism in the north caucasus, creating a normal region of russia, so that’s why i brought this historical analogy, so if it happens now - measurement with this regime and its living conditions there, that they have... their own statehood, their army, their, uh, the political system that they want to have, but this will be a second khasavyurd with much more difficult consequences, so the issue must be resolved in principle and completely, now how to solve it in principle and completely, this of course should

be done by politicians, but i am not proposing anything here, but i assume that this could be through changes in general to this system of borders in ... thank you for finding the time, i know that in your busy schedule this is quite difficult to do, i am grateful that you took part in the program, answered the questions of our listeners, thank you, andrey, thank you for the good conversation, very smart questions, informational current analytical project the microphone was broadcast on the belarusian radio, tv channel belarus24, with you was the presenter andrei sych, also our guest is the chairman of the belarusian party white russia, oleg romanov.

on what basis do certain american corporations, ngos, soros, media-like structures dictate to us the rules of life in our state, is still cherished. the idea of ​​starting a military conflict in one way or another, namely provocatively, because otherwise there is no way to start a military conflict, at the moment there are no prerequisites for defeating us, now... we are standing on border of the election campaigns , the terrorist activity of our opponents , it is beginning to increase significantly, here is the clear interaction of various law enforcement agencies and components, here are the armed forces, the state security committee , the ministry of internal affairs, the border service agencies, it is our joint activity that prevents us from coming terrorists directly onto our soil. belarus is forever inscribed in red letters in the history of diplomacy.

on the belarus24 tv channel we choose the best routes only for our viewers. we we are in a small town in the grodno region called bridges. welcome. having eaten too much, for a long time they could not eat either baked fish or fish soup, they just sat and said a hundred lin. since then the name of the city stolin has come. and we set off on an exciting journey. century there was a large settlement on this place, and it appeared

at the intersection of major trade routes, the meman and bresko-vilnius. the almans are a real tourist highlight, the only ones preserved in their natural state in belarus and the largest in europe. these are the twenties, thirty-nine years. i can safely say that this is the best time for urban architecture. sidewalks and highways appeared, trees were planted and construction was built. new beautiful publications to show how unusual and wonderful our country is, when he moved from one place to another, the horses were unharnessed and transported by the believers themselves, the jews, from one place to another, now, as we see, the image is clearly visible, they began colors appear, this is of course a miracle of god, watch the program “cities of belarus” on...

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