on what basis do certain american corporations, ngos, sarossyats, media-like structures dictate to us the rules of life in our state? i still have the idea of ​​how, in one way or another, in a provocative way, because otherwise there is no way to unleash military conflict, at the moment there are no prerequisites for defeating us.

it’s a miracle when a person writes about himself, and people come and say that this is about me, when the ode to joy was published, what feelings did you experience, i wrote it in... the memory of my mother, so that she would not disappear, the fact that she came out to me as some kind of, well, document of life, that everything was not in vain. why do you believe , valeria, the immortality of the soul, this is life , which is only a moment, because one day you understand that these are not empty words, and how did it happen that my husband failed to switch to literature? it was a big problem for me to understand why i want man, why do i want to get married, i’m even skeptical now about marriages of like-minded people, about marriages between people of the same profession, some people are good at it, but this is not my destiny, we can’t help

but ask you about that book or those books that you should read everything, a book that teaches you not to take yourself seriously and take life seriously. hello, the program “say don’t be silent” is on air, victoria popova and svetlana smolonskaya are in the studio. and today our guest is literary critic, writer, valeria pustovaya. good afternoon, valeria. hello. we are glad to see you here in minsk, you came for an international book. is it your first time at the fair or in belarus and what are your first impressions of our forum? i just i arrived, so far i have participated in only one event in the children's library , they took a very cordial interest in children's adult literature, in the exchange of information , it was very pleasant to say, but this is your first

time in minsk, in minsk, it’s my first time, yes, i was amazed, it seems to me that you’ll stand here and won’t reach the point, just such a big, unlimited look, as if where am i going, where, where is my goal, yes... it will set me up, i ’ll go, i’ll go right through, through the whole city, our avenues make an impression, yes, yes, just the first impression, this is so bright, you will probably present your book in one of our forums, this is about joy, ask your readers questions and you can ask us too, because we are them, on the eve of our meeting, we got acquainted with the book, here is one of the quotes: my grandmother turned 90 years old in kyrgyzstan, and her daughter... 66 years old was buried in a cemetery near moscow, well, right away this is one of the first pages that catches you, what do you think is the reason for this that our mothers leave earlier, than grandmothers, is this the stress of the 21st century? it seems to me that this is such a lack of skill

to replenish a resource, and this is a generation that may have learned to live for others, and this is such valor for others, this is really, i believe that my mother is from this heroic generation that does not spare... itself, and maybe now they reproach young people for feeling too sorry for themselves, running around with their traumas, with their little grievances, almost running to a psychologist, but maybe this has its own meaning, because it’s safer this way, and it’s more respectful, maybe to ourselves, and so - the resource in a person is replenished , when we spend all the time, spend it on others, i realized too late that my mother simply had no place to get new strength from to replenish this well, and my grandmothers were at

a construction site, doing a lot of work for the good of society , but we don’t know at what price this happened in their souls, in russia they greatly respect the cult book of pavel sanaev, protect me by the plinth, many years have passed since it was published, they still read it , they argue, there’s one there of such grandmothers, such neurosis became the price of this tough, strong survival, i agree with you now, because i remember that my parents turned to their parents and said, how can we learn not to take everything to heart?

but fear is also probably pity, when especially you read about them like this from the outside in other books, well, another quote from you: queues and grievances, which we have already talked about, snow in mounds, at what age do grievances in a person begin to accumulate on your sight? it seems to me that when hope of fixing something is lost, everyone has this moment your own, because well, in your youth it’s somehow easier to overcome everything, at some point this midlife crisis is also in the fact that you suddenly realize that what... you did, you did, you wrote it in your life , and there simply isn’t any resource left to take a step back, you have to largely go along the same lines, then some kind of resentment for the wrong turn that happened, the wrong choice, it becomes, well, probably more total in you, and i think this is very scary,

because i want to turn to a person in at any age and say that, after all , it’s never too late to find that turning point, maybe small, maybe some everyday habit to change, to move something in your life, but... well, shake off such a word, i i work a lot, i ’m like that person, i’m a big fan of psychology, i respect psychologists, i’m very worried when their entire workshop is simply discredited indiscriminately, of course, there are charlatans, bad psychologists, psychologists who impose themselves, who assert themselves at the expense of the client, but it happens very valuable specialists, i was also lucky with such people, and i worked a lot, for example, in the last one, my discovery thanks to a psychologist , it turns out there is byren katie, working with convictions, and which teaches you how to detach yourself from others and make demands on yourself,

yes, every time i get offended, in fact i want to, so i knock on this wall, i don’t say: wall, love me, wall, don’t you dare tell me that, wall, don’t devalue me, but it’s all inside me, i it's like i'm talking to myself, here cry it all out to understand that i can tell all this to myself, don’t devalue me, i ’ll stop punishing myself there, stop blaming myself already, relax and finally live, but is it working out? well, that’s how old i am, and i ’ve been doing this since i don’t know at a young age, sorting out my grievances, and of course, well, now there is some progress, and it can still be so gripping that it’s just like black world, as if you don’t see anything and see only this emotion inside yourself and valeria, do i understand you correctly, that well, with as you get older, grievances accumulate, it seems to me that it is very valuable in the modern world that there are a lot of keys to heal yourself, then grievances don’t accumulate, they become such a springboard. a little bit of a reason to change something, it’s very difficult, but it just seems to me that

a person wins in him either the desire to live or the desire, listen, i’ve had enough of clouding the sky with these grievances, i’ve had enough of black emotions, i don’t know, envy, some old memory, i’m just so tired to live, it seems to me that fatigue is very important, i decided for myself that i need to be tired, to be offended, i need to be tired of being abandoned, lonely, misunderstood, when i get tired, i tell myself, listen, well, let ’s not do this anymore..

i’ll spend it as much as i can, i’ll dispose of it, but it seems to me that it’s a pretty healthy attitude, at least it made me feel better, you know, why do you believe, valeria, the immortality of the soul, why is there someone watching over us, moms , grandmothers, looks after, well, this is becoming such a naive everyday belief on the other hand this is also a religious side, of course, because if we believe that we were created for a reason, we return to our creator, to god, but the main thing seems to me that for a person... it is important to comprehend and justify everything, so much happens in life , that you cannot

justify in any way from within it, how to live for the sake of living, to explain life by the tasks of life, at some point it fails, you understand that it cannot be so painful or so dead-end, so stupid , moronic, everything is limited to this, there must be some meaning, then life is only a path, it probably has meaning, that’s what you’ll come there with, it’s very difficult to remember that’s how you came to religion, but how is it somehow? a compensatory thing , i came to religion in an absolutely wonderful way, it seems to me that this is the most common practice of coming to religion, it seems to me, it can be arrogant, and through, again, resentment, and resentment towards a young man, so i had some... then here is another dead-end relationship that has gone absolutely nowhere, and i was so offended and i came, i tell the priest, well, what does this say, i say, it’s so offensive, and what it says is offensive to you, a young man should respect like a girl, he didn’t say anything to me, to be honest, but now i would say, well, what are you ? and this fell on some kind of soil, i received some kind of consolation, some kind of support , probably not from the search for god, i somehow

had no doubt that god exists, that’s not where it started for me, that’s it is precisely from this desire that somehow there is some kind of ceiling that even psychology cannot cope with, then you go to church, because there you can just cry and say, well, okay, i’m letting go of this for god’s sake, i’m letting go of this, because god said that you have to suffer in order to have it, well, in order to rise above this suffering, in order to have it. yes, for the sake of exultation. well, this, unfortunately, is quite typical for a kind of modern consciousness, many fields, flows of information are open to us, everyone deals with them as best they can, of course i can, i ’m even a child, i have a problem that on the one hand i can’t don't invite him to a game of horoscope, well, it’s just a symbolic series, it’s not simple, these are myths, these are some images, on the other hand you understand that this is complete nonsense, here

are some constellations, some eastern years, for some reason they have to coincide, i don’t know, my husband doesn’t believe in this at all and... classifying them as if in a sandbox, there are squares here, diamonds here, roughly speaking, there are circles here, but you know, it helps, helps to navigate, and for me how it helped how such systems helped not to demand everything from a person, that is, for example, you meet a person who is very modest, good, and so reliable, but you want him to make you laugh, take you to discos, in general there was a trash frenzy, as if he would shower you with gifts with flowers, but there won’t be such a person, and you can come to someone with experience, or you can through such systems, the system says, so a man with a sign like this, there is this typology, he will be like this, but he won’t be like that, oh, well, thank you for explaining, valeria, a man proposes marriage, but a woman proposes children, this is a phrase from a memo with which the internet is filled,

but it was also useful to you once, for me it was a big problem to understand why i wanted it. a man, why do i want to get married, i had this phrase all the time: i want to live with a man, but they tell me why you want to live with a man, i couldn’t come to this, i couldn’t explain to myself the idea of ​​partnership , the idea that i need children, no matter how you think about it, you just feel that you feel bad alone, you seem to be alone, as if a little incomplete, and then i kept wanting a man somehow he decided for me, why should i marry him, why should i have children from him, where will we go, what will we do, it seemed to me that it was...

just convenient that there was a person nearby who would decide everything for me, it will be normal , plus you shifted the responsibility onto someone , it turns out, yes, of course, because whoever suggested it is the same one who develops all this, otherwise you have to plump yourself, but it turns out that this is interesting, that is, beat with your paws to make it rise your dream, or even a small wish, turns out to be interesting, then there is really no need to sit in the tower to send a knight, that he plowed your field there, cut down all the dragons, sometimes

you can come out like this, waving, on the other hand , this nonsense that you are filled with. the internet, these reminders, these images of princes on a white horse, that is, is it possible in this regard, against this background, to call a person a set of random phrases read somewhere, stereotypes, personal beliefs, well, what are we made of in this case, even if phrases from the memo, well , let’s say i have something like this, don’t get cluttered, i have this kind of decluttering a checklist, but this helps me, i think, god, what am i made of, or some kind of set? in memory, so what do you think about it? it seems to me that a person takes what touches him and what he was internally prepared for in advance, i somehow this is also such a problem as resentment for the advice carried out, that is, you advised me, i followed as best you could, everything was, everything turned out to be wrong, but it was i who chose to follow, there is really a lot of information noise now, a lot of teachings, a lot of some kind of therapy, and with

that old traditional models remain, there are religious models, there are philosophical models, there is simply such practical psychology, cheap psychology. people still defer a little bit, like children do a little bit for their parents, but i just feel it in myself and it’s a little dangerous, but it’s still good to take advantage of it and go your own way, decide for yourself what to do? well

, for example, i have such an old example, i bought a thick book about despondency in church in a church shop, because i felt somehow no, wow, such a thick volume was good, i just opened it by accident and it was simply written there, among other things: don’t wish and you won’t be sad, i closed the book, so i paid, i paid the money, i bought the book, that was it for the sake of i’m becoming like her, do you agree with this? yes, you know, it’s like that , my grandmother had such a phrase, which really irritated my mother, and then it began to irritate me, she looked at my mother and said,

well, here i am, that is, lera is smart, and we with you means fools, then i gave birth to a baby and it turned out that i was a fool, and my grandmother was the smart one, that is, for some reason she always shifted this focus of mind in the family to the youngest generation, she had some reasons of her own for doing this, but then i realized, that there is something in this, i really look at children, they are smarter. maybe because in the last generation some old scenario is playing out and it has already been exhausted, all its pros and cons are clear, it’s already a dead end, somehow you can’t go anywhere, and the new generation is simply because that this has already been played out, it is trying something different and every time i had the previous one, here is a well-known phenomenon, when in the 20th century there was a generation of parents who were very focused on material survival, to provide a house, to have a car, to have good clothes, because life. taught that it is necessary, well, first of all , to furnish the body like this, their children, who received all this as ready-made, they say: listen, like hippies, spirituality, practices, love in general, peace is all there, and friendship is chewing gum, that’s it

there is, well, go around there, travel, look for yourself, that’s what i want, and there was a big conflict of generations, but in a sense they are smarter, because the material has already been won back, their parents invested, they have already done it for them, why will they accept this model, they move on, then from this it also came... on the air again, say don’t be silent , literary critic and writer valeria

pustovaya is our guest. let's move on, read on your ode to joy, a wonderful book: a child is a dimensionless plug in the place of any absence, he replaces communication and sex, loss of inspiration, ambition and meaning in life. i think that mothers and mothers are now clutching their heads and... you write, you still need to put this distance a little, about the plug, after all , the child really obscures a lot, performs a lot, i somehow don’t

i can underestimate the phenomenon of children in my life, i never particularly strived for this, it now turns out to me that a child will take away my time for creativity, take away myself from me, and of course i eventually discovered that, firstly, he gives me a lot of reasons for self-therapy, for researching myself, all my emotional reactions, all my clues, all my infantilism, laziness, some limitations. in my thinking , everything comes out next to the children, well, i’m not the first to discover this, everyone understands this, yes, when it becomes materially that everything comes out of you, you already thought that you were a perfect auntie, such an adult woman, you have everything grasped , you went through everything, happy marriage, there are children, yes, of course, for you and your child all this destroys all these settings, so of course it replaces the meaning of life, because children can become the meaning of life, and of course, it also replaces realization, this feeling of need, warmth, a very dangerous situation when... i understand that i am undergoing a little treatment, of course with the children, because this feeling that he is from this a partner who will not leave you anywhere, this partner will not leave you, this is a bit of a false, bad feeling, but i

admit it to myself. it’s just good that i see this in myself, that a little child heals me. of course, psychologists advise not to get carried away with this and still remain an adult when your child, and not a begging baby , because it’s dangerous, but the fact that children don’t just turn life around, they fill it in a new way, for me it was just a huge discovery at the time, and i ’ll repeat it directly, not i can underestimate a child in life, but both men and women, well, we understand correctly that late children are welcome. well, it’s just that when you can’t find yourself for a long time and then establish relationships, then at the beginning you get it, well, like over 30, when you give birth, there’s even over 35, yes, but it seems to me that the main thing is that this basically came to life, now i understand that of course in my 20-year period, i wouldn’t have been able to pull it off, i was too focused on myself, i needed so much, you know, this feeling that they say that everything should come on time, your firstborn is on the screen, his name is samson,

unexpectedly.

to separate your children, and then i see, now it seems that in kindergartens somehow they don’t really cling to it, it seems to me that maybe the culture has become a little softer, more diverse, the world has somehow opened up a little for people, so i look, well not scores, it seems to me, are special now, maybe at the level of kindergarten in schools, maybe still, but i look, no names, nothing brings up, but laura was just also looking for something so original and i don’t remember when i arrived, i remember that until the last minute, i really really wanted it, i thought that god forbid my husband would choose some good option, but now i really wanted it. option , unfortunately, i don’t even remember how i came to it, it’s true, sometimes you don’t know where it’s coming to you, somehow it came across, for some reason didn’t come across, all some things in our lives happen intuitively. valeria, was it more difficult for you to decide on laura or was it easier to decide on a second child? but somehow i somehow wanted to, i everything, i brought up my entire childhood as such a slightly lonely child under the feet of adults, but this image is famous in cinema and literature, when

adults are sitting, having lunch, with them feast and... well, god willing, it worked out, god willing, yes, that valeria, well, time really heals, has your pain subsided due to the loss of a loved one person, mother? probably time heals when , first of all, you don’t resist it, you don’t deliberately pull yourself back, i try not to pull myself back, because i know that it again clouds life very much, it interferes with being, this is what i hate a feeling of darkness that clouds your vision, you can walk next to your loved ones and be in

a television studio. you can drink the most delicious coffee there, i don’t know, with a cake, everything is just black , i hate this state of blackness, it seems to me that this is an abyss, this is hell, with this i really want to destroy this, to embarrass my life, but on the other hand , sometimes there really are situations that can bring back this feeling of resentment, why is this so, why is it possible to suddenly burst into tears, but still these are some kind of sudden, penetrating pain points, and it seems to me that you can allow yourself to do this...

some observations accumulated that accumulated around some feeling of one plot twist so emotional, i really didn’t expect that people would recognize themselves in my story, it seems to me , it’s some kind of miracle that such a trend is now popular, which is considered to be outliving its usefulness, everyone is already tired of it, but it’s a miracle when a person writes about himself, and people come and say that this is about me, this is this dialogue when everyone talks to themselves, but they meet in something in common, but it seems to me that i myself love such books, books of some kind of experience, books of confession, i myself let them into my life from time to time, it seems to me that in general experience - this is the most valuable thing that we can pass on to each other, the experience of how you went through through this, that’s how it was for you,

because it feeds and helps you feel not like an idiot, not alone, not some black sheep to whom this happened alone, the most bitter feeling is that it only happened to me, when you you understand that this is just the order of things, it’s somehow completely troublesome. some thought, some problem posed, some problem that is solved through the text, it seems to me that it’s simple - it’s a little bit like that, well, a narrow understanding of literature, literature is created in general due to what, due to some

aesthetic distance, esthetic relationship, and this is when i take experience and make beauty out of it, make something observable out of it, make some kind of knowledge about life out of it, make an image out of it, and this is all literature. has its own personal thing, well, it is absolutely obvious that i wrote it in memory of my mother, so that she would not disappear, and i am very glad that i did it, at least even for myself, because i would not recreate many things from here now, i wouldn't have written it, i'm glad i didn't make

a story out of it, because you know, i i really like to observe what life is like, life itself manifests itself surprisingly, i really don’t like to invent in life how these events were connected, or how the hero went there, to typify something, for example, to connect my mother and someone else’s mother, yes ... notes, not thinking that it was for a book, i just wanted to remember, i wanted to remember how it would be, because my mother left for six months, i wanted to record this, and i record how the children grow, because again i know that i will forget, i will forget, no one will tell them, not even me, what it was like when they

were very small and i’m simply attracted by this touch of the present time in the past, i want to feel it through this detail, when you put all this together with some kind of meaningful text, it plays even more, that’s why of course for me it’s... a big event, because it means that i took some part of my life and put it together, as they say, out of chaos, cosmos, such a small cosmos, then you wrote in pain, this is completely obvious, so it can be soulful, precise words chosen , because the book catches you, when i finished reading there, i realized, and somewhere there was something so good, so cozy, there was something like this, this is your book, i read it, you know, that is, it really produces such a interesting therapeutic effect. can we say, do you encourage children to read? i am very passionate about children's literature, i believe that modern children's literature has made some kind of crazy breakthrough in all sectors, in all directions, it is really a very progressive art, creating children's books today, and

of course, i include it even too much, in general i receive condemnation from my relatives for loading it up with books, just now we were in the children's library and there they talked about, well, modern children, they have their own children's shelf, how good, we have this not a shelf. soon he will not stand, because there will be no place left for him to stand, he will literally stand on the library. well , what can i do? i have a little passion here, i feel a little like my own threshold, but i can’t resist, maybe it’s the child in me wants all these beautiful , wonderful children’s books, i don’t know, but the fact that they respond to these, let’s say, desires of yours, it’s still, well, read, read, and well, consume a lot of children’s literature, excuse the word consume, this is solely your merit , of course, it is considered very important to read with a child, that is, investing emotional time in this is easy. the problem is that maybe not everyone likes it, i just

like it, and for me, to be honest, some kind of ambitious inner trepidation, this is to show him how wonderful it is that i like, there is a little bit of this, i have such leadership and i would be very upset if he didn’t like it, i don’t know, there’s a talking hobbit, for example, but he liked it, yes, i would be very upset , if he weren’t interested in these educational, bright modern books, but he liked it, and well, we all want a little bit for our children to share with us, yes, because of course it’s good to feed a child with shoes, that’s the first step. how did this happen and what are your points? contact?

well, here are the points of contact, firstly, i am terribly happy that my husband is not a writer, he reads, he loves science fiction and in general he is a person who seems to be interested in cinema and high-quality modern tv series, something that i, for example, am not very much, i’m not knowledgeable about this, but he enlightens me about it, yes, the huge world of modern serial cinema, but it seems to me that i overestimated this before... such people are uncomfortable, i want to talk to them more, just to yes, and

this is not the case, and in general , from the point of contact it may be that, for example, what is pathetic and what is funny, that is, you should both be funny about the same things or pathetic in the same sense, and i also really like this the ability to let a person be different, my husband is infinitely far from me for some reason, i don’t know how he communicates with people, what he chooses, i don’t know how to look. yes, he knows some things that i’m completely interested in, they don’t even bother me, and he ’s not interested in things that i’m interested in absolutely, but it’s so cool that we can exchange this, i can observe this other, just like that, up close and personal , study some world that would otherwise be simply completely closed to me, and so now i’m honestly even skeptical i now regard marriages of like-minded people, marriages of people of the same profession, some are good at it, but this was not my fate , it should be noted that you are a strict mother. and samsun can say that mom, give me an owl, and no, turn on mom, yes,

turn on the owl, yes, but how did it happen that you strict, because i can’t feel it here during our communication, it seems to me that i’m not strict, just the opposite, so i think that my mother was a kind mother, well, to the best of her ability, as it were, and she was kind mother, precisely because she was very strong, and she could be big about the child, but i, unfortunately, am happy with such a person, but she is still more fragile, infantile and timid. and it’s just because of this overexertion of oneself that this effect is born: don’t spill it, because i have to clean it up now, don’t get in there, because i don’t want to sort out these problems later, it’s just out of weakness, i’m actually very convinced that parents argue out of weakness, unfortunately, i realized this directly myself. i scold the child, i criticize only out of weakness, because i just need

to make him really comfortable, really predictable, predictable, i’m very worried about the child’s predictability, and this is impossible, but i also work a lot with this, as if i’m moving towards this, to perceive this as such a current life enjoy the fact that a child is still a child, and not yours, i don’t know, a forty-year- old partner who will suck you half-assed, turn on the owl, yes, we had such a difficult period, just when our second child was born, when i just unlocked. tension, i remember directly, it was a very difficult period for me, i didn’t expect that it would be so psychologically difficult for me to hold two children, not physically, not financially, not to wash my butt , to feed, this is all nonsense, just psychologically... .to split up in some way moment i just wanted to just calm down the older child, just give me peace, let me do it calmly, i just can’t, that’s it, when i was too closed at such moments, so, he says, come on , i’m talking to the owl, i’m not talking to

you, i remembered, i switched to this play language, play therapy in general, humor therapy in relationships, sometimes i don’t like something. child, and then i first bark, and then i start making jokes about it, and this is included in our such funny memes in family, and i understand that you are more focused, that is, yes, i barked, it hurt me, it hurt him, but now it came back through humor and now i’m no longer afraid of this situation, they forgive you, yes, for example, here i used to really care that samson doesn’t listen to me, he’s just always in his dreams and he says what you said, this phrase, what you said, i’m coming to you, you, you, you and your mother, who am i, those who are empty that’s all, that is, it just made me sick. now we're just each other, he he said that he was also irritated by one of my phrases, and i told him, well, that’s how samson is , and he says what you said, and for us it’s funny phrases, but it’s funny for us , it doesn’t hurt anymore, well, when was this period complex, and where was the husband, what position did he take in this relationship, well, probably still

a little bit masculine, the man provides a little bit of a cave outside, of course, it still seems to me like this... in such a classical model, in a family it's hard for my husband to be constantly involved, i wouldn't do it from him demanded, because his burden was falling, after all, this is the story, that let us be equally attracted, well , it won’t work if you work five days a day, you can’t be so involved with children, you’ll just be some things to miss and miss, and this is good for the mother, well, it will be very exhausting, all this is hard, constantly being closed with the child, you need to go out, you need to relax yourself there, you need to look for ways to pause. but still, i would be very upset if i weren’t closely with the children, to be honest, if i weren’t i saw some little things, i write them down, i don’t know, but with my first smile, for the first time i said this word, i peeled an egg differently today, i don’t know, these are some little things that are dear to every mother, but they would have passed me by, i would have just seen a ready-made child who grew up first to 3 years old, then to six, so

the kindergarten, school, everything, according to plan, brings, thank god that he does not suffer from the fact that...

expectations and even, well, to suggest something, what is he distracting with, some kind of circle, but this is the maximum, i think, let he chooses himself, because i feel that it’s not up to me to decide what my children should do, and now we’ll take a break for a while, i remind you that we have a telegram channel, say don’t be silent, subscribe, ask questions and suggest guests, we are connected!

the program “say don’t be silent” is on air again, our guest is the russian writer, literary critic, valeria pustovaya. thanks to you, valeria, we were still surprised to discover that such a magazine as friendship of peoples is being published, who is publishing it now, who is filling it out now, we are already about i imagine, but who reads thick literary magazines? i am after graduating from the faculty of journalism at moscow state university. got into a thick magazine, i worked for many years in the literary magazine october, now it unfortunately has stopped publishing, but there was also a lot of valuable stuff there, so my whole youth was spent there, and of course there... a new world, znamya, friendship of peoples and other russian literary magazines, the urals again, and they all have some kind of experience, well, such

professional survival of literature, now even our younger generation is discovering new literary platforms, but already online , without this paper version, because it’s cheaper, faster, as it were, over time, and october died under financial time, well, it seemed to have stopped, but it didn’t open further due to financial time, but it was eaten up there the rent for... ate something else, it’s just become, well, hard to keep employees and pay for the printing house, but well, we ’ve been working towards this for a long time, it’s just that each magazine struggles with this in a completely special way, well, i understand correctly that in recent times it's still years such a thing within literature and history , a literary magazine, it is such a platform that one way or another is very necessary for the professional existence of literature, and of course it is read, i think, by people who are still professionally at least somehow connected, that is, library students there.

i understand that they remember with gratitude that they started with a magazine publication. well, that is, this is still some kind of recognition, this recognition is certainly professional , i’m afraid that reader recognition

is when your book is actively sold, yes, but professionalism can begin in a thick literary magazine, yeah, your mother was born in baku, grew up in asia, studied in siberia, lived and worked in moscow, you yourself often visit kyrgyzstan, where you have many relatives, they still live there , well, since the magazine...

lack of some kind of respect, peculiarity, it was such a reverse country of this boundlessness of this country, that is, let everyone live in the middle, let everyone live like some kind of generalized soviet person, but the fact that every soviet person lives on some own land, which shapes differently, and a person from moscow , tashkent and beshkek simply cannot be one to such an extent, there will still be something of his own, now this of his own has become very intensified, well, i’m with some big ...

the country is resetting artificial settings, it seems to me that they are just people, they live as best they can, the state is leading somewhere, but they survive as best they can, and they can often do so due to some kind of return. somehow - to the rhythm, to the way of life, which is more characteristic of their culture, climate and, in general, their history stories of their origin and of course kyrgyzstan

is a funny country, because my husband also tells me, how can you tell the difference there? uzbeks and kirkiz live, so yes, it happened historically , there is a dramatic history of this existence , naturally, they exist, but well , you can walk right together, you can see them next to each other, he says, how do you distinguish them, i say, dear, you are alone once you see them, you will never confuse them, they are completely different peoples, cultures in general, that is, right down to the fact that there is a girl in jeans, it will be kyrgyz, and such a traditional , wrapped up uzbek girl, a completely different type of life, and the fact that it’s like in a cauldron, and it comes together like that. in every kyrgyz city, this is amazing, this is also some kind of path to a kind of openness, of this, well, not european, probably kind, but also to the narrowing of different peoples, because well, peoples have to live with each other, here is one of examples of such, well , finally, as a literary critic, writer, we cannot help but ask you about that book or those books that everyone should read, that you will strongly

recommend to us, well, the problem is... the history of women's life in the middle ages, the story of how a woman rushed between resentment and love, it is just so deep, so encompassing different spheres of life, and such fairy tales and...

this is the fact that there are a lot of genres mixed in here, the fact that you don’t understand where is reality and where is mysticism, the fact that you are generally confused, which means in the testimony of the heroes, i think it's a book that doesn't teach seriously taking yourself seriously in life, well, great, even i thought about the difference between the city, the capital and the province , yes, there is already a difference in the presentation of materials, in the way the writer feels the difference, and if we talk about entire countries, then they cannot but exist, and priori, every nuance plays a role here, yes, even the number of sunny days, valeria, today you certainly brought us the sun to our studio, and it is no coincidence, yes, it is no coincidence that your book is so called, thank you for this amazing meeting, we invite you to come to belarus more often, do not be afraid of our wide avenues, they are not scary at all, they are safe and very inspiring, svetlana smolonskaya, victoria

popova, we say goodbye to you for today, goodbye. goodbye, valeria pustovaya is speaking now. i wish you that, in spite of everything, this joy of life, the joy of instant presence here, and simply existence in this world will always be with you, nourish your thoughts, your intentions of accomplishment. valeria, this probably wo n’t be the first time you’ve heard this proposal, please write leave us an autograph of something as a souvenir. good.

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