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the tv channel. 24 and discover belarus. information and analytical project current microphone on air on the belarusian radio tv channel belarus24. with you is the presenter andrei sych, as well as our guest ksenia lebedeva, a journalist. my colleague, ksenia, i propose to start the conversation with your return from yet another business trip, please tell us for what purpose you visited the line of combat contact once again, that you are there i forgot, our whole company is worried about you, you don’t stop going there with what results you returned, well, let’s just say that we never got to the line of combat contact, but thank god, the main task was, because our main task is always

to return , it’s not entirely safe there, but... we have slightly different tasks, we don’t work operationally on military topics, and therefore, well , we’re looking at it from a slightly different angle, but the main task was probably covering the presidential elections, and the elections of the president of russia in the dpr, that’s why they worked in two cities, in donetsk, in mariupol, but we looked at how people reacted, whether they were actually walking at gunpoint, as they wrote, hacks, you can’t call them anything else, because there were... a lot of fakes, stuffing , characteristic of them, characteristic of tsypso, when they filmed a staged video in one room and demonstrating that supposedly people vote at gunpoint, well, it’s like all this is absolutely funny, because talking with people, no matter what, yes, for example, in mariupol, mariupol was seriously destroyed, and one could say that the people there might be somehow up in arms, maybe somehow negatively

disposed, but at the same time the people... the masses came in in a good mood, and as they all said, we are waiting bright future, they have such a phrase, it sounded from mouth to mouth, was passed on, so... well, everyone answered the question, who are you voting for, they certainly spoke for the current president of russia, for vladimir putin, so the mood was good, here in donetsk, since mariupol experienced, let’s say, active wartime, this it’s the twenty-second year, and donetsk has been actively shelled since the fourteenth year, people simply said with tears in their eyes that we are waiting for the end of the war, and therefore such hopes are placed on, look, they are still pushing back a little. representatives of the armed forces of ukraine, many fall under investigation, under criminal, say, responsibility for shelling these peaceful cities, at least in these regions, let’s say, a more or less calm situation is felt, after

this pushing back took place, and you mean when maryenko and ovdeevka have become ours, yes, as they say, of course, yes, they are felt, i want to say that if donetsk had previously been actively shelled with hail. now this is no longer the case, but another problem has appeared, they are starting to fire missiles, and that is , they will have to be pushed back even further, of course, this will happen, this will continue until the war ends, because long- range missiles, we all understand, like what kind of missiles are supplied to them, hummers are actively used, and they are actively used throughout the city, while air defense is actively working, in the morning,

in the evening, so it was... to determine the output of this or that belarus by the sound, when the guy is 10 years old, and he can already shoot a projectile, its caliber, the distance of the output. in which direction it flew, but this is tough, it seems to me, look, now the situation around kharkov is being actively discussed on the internet, what do you think, your opinion is interesting, because one way or another you are much more involved in the agenda than most journalists on territory

of belarus, they are actively promoting the topic of an offensive by russian troops, that’s what’s interesting, we can’t know whether it will happen or not will happen, and the ukrainians say that this is inevitable and what’s interesting is that there is no... evacuation of this city is not being carried out, in fact, just as it was in the first days of the conflict with the russian federation, no, no evacuation, let’s say, not it was announced, including it turns out that even if, say, an offensive by russian troops on the territory of ukraine would take place, it would still be possible to implement this process of evacuating people and not hide behind their backs, the same situation would happen, they would again drive equipment to residential areas, well, apparently yes, judging by... according to the information that is now present on the network, the fact that the azovites have filled kharkov and its and surrounding city, then of course, they will probably act in the old way , as in mariupol, but the interesting thing is that yes, they say that this is inevitable,

so there is no need to say that it will happen tomorrow, for example, but definitely yes, it will happen someday, they are already preparing for it, i understand that kharkov is a big city and quite important for... promotion the russian army, of course, understanding that there are a lot of proto-russians in kharkov, of course they are already preparing, and i want to say that it is probably not surprising that the first to enter there now are the azov people, this is absolutely, this is the third assault brigade, in my opinion , they were renamed so as not to be called azovites and it sounded more cultural in the western information space, but the role did not seem to change much, and as a result their strategy and tactics did not change much, because again we are talking about the fact that they were under avdeevka, that although they say that they allegedly helped simply to make corridors for the high-tech, but in fact they left

their traces there, too, but again we will say that most likely this will be a tactic-strategy developed already in mariupol, despite the fact that it turned out to be deplorable for them, and they had to surrender, and the city was surrendered. but in any case, they most likely have worked on the mistakes and will work using the same technology, why is there no evacuation today, and

why? in principle, it doesn’t matter what

the west thinks about them, money is important to them; sponsorship of their money comes from the west, too, of course, yes, but they just put the west in a situation where they cannot refuse, and these are on the front line and supposedly they sacrifice themselves, sacrifice their people, and do it for the sake of peace throughout europe, and what we regularly hear about, that is, they blackmail the west, so the tactics, i doubt that they are coordinating anything, most likely they are just acting on their own terrorist methods. for achievement specific goals, perhaps here you just need to deliberately argue, and not hide it from the west, or the west simply pretends that it does not understand, here, too , you can consider different points, but the fact that the west will not and will not stop them, this can be said absolutely, today, well, they continue, they don’t stop occupying, for example, there are kindergartens, schools, fire departments... units, if you pay attention to what is supposedly in ukrainian resources, what is supposedly

in reports, when information appears russia launched its missiles at a fire station, kindergartens, and somewhere else, and after that there is the following message that the sbu caught a spotter who was directing missiles at the locations of the military defenses. that there is no need for this, the main task is still denarcification and

demilitarization, and therefore, the fact that the spotter is caught and they say that she allegedly told the places of deployment, these messages just need to be combined to be done conclusion, and the following conclusion is that in social objects it is still everywhere in ukraine there are paramilitary organizations based, i will tell you from the example in mariupol, this is a very good... example and it seems to me that having studied everything that is happening there from the very beginning there since 1914, it becomes clear in general the vision of the war on the part of ukraine and not just why the city was cleared in this way, let’s say, because there was no other possibility, because the azov people had been going there since 1914, and initially they were sent there for what purpose, in order to intimidate the local residents, because they were absolutely pro-russian, they are still pro-russian today, there are of course elements who... have always been for the position

of ukraine, but for the most part these are people who speak and always spoke russian, when they went there they occupied sanatoriums, this again according to the stories of local residents, they occupied kindergartens, and until the eighteenth year they simply lived there, until the local authorities handed them over from the eighteenth year they began to equip them, strengthen them, the buildings housed military equipment and people they also saw this, they could count how many tanks there were, bmps, some other vehicles, they watched how the azov people had been actively training since... a year, again, running in formation, how disciplined they had become, unlike those who came to in the fourteenth year, and again azov steel, and the people who worked there, again as refugees, came to us in belarus , they say that military vehicles regularly drove there,

no one knows what they were loaded with, because moving along the astal , and there are five floors down only, it was limited and even then... in the fourteenth year , hedgehogs were placed at the checkpoints, for which they were placed, that is, they expected the same thing, that is, they knew that mariupol would be taken, they understood that, given the large number of pro-russian population, it will be difficult to hold it, similar to kharkov, i am more than sure that the situation will be very similar, why, that’s why people today, let’s say, are not evacuated, although information on... human life, for which it is worth nothing. look, the other day i came across interesting information regarding the fact that today, out of almost 100%, well, the distribution

of this 100% of assistance from the west, it is divided, so 80 - this goes to services, to treating people. how this distribution happens, well , including we have seen statements by european western politicians who say that yes, indeed, let’s say, 70% of the announced amounts to help ukraine, they remain on the territory of the west, for defense and so on, but this is the distribution within ukraine itself, these 80% supposedly

are spent on helping the susushniks, the wounded, and so on, they disappear somewhere, or what happens to them if the susushniks themselves continue to record. in order to go to fight on the front line, you need to buy a weapon yourself, buy a rifle yourself, a rifle costs 90.00 hryvnia,

this is the middle ages, you have to buy it for yourself in order to die, and it’s great that you, in order to die and most likely. .. then they didn’t pick you up somewhere, but you were left to rot, well, just judging by the numbers, it turns out they get paid if a person is on the front line, they are paid approximately 130-150 thousand hryvnia, well, that’s more than $3.00, that’s if you live to see the payment until the end of the month, this is also a nuance, yes, of course, of course, so no one bothers about this, but before how to go to war, because as i understand it, they

don’t have anything to fight with, but they say that you have to... how they transport wounded dry-landers across the border in an ambulance and they took the evacuation there by plane, let’s say medical , they took care of it at the moment, well, probably i've been like this for about a year, if not a year and a half i’m not watching the video, well, you see, apparently it’s just not profitable for them to demonstrate all this, then it was profitable now for some reason it’s not profitable, too , moments, but maybe there are no those who are now being treated there, maybe they’ve all been there for a long time and left, they distinguished themselves, they distinguished themselves, yes. look, by the way, if we touched on this topic, just today on our favorite telegram channel js premium they published quite interesting information, and one, say, terrorist regiment, a regiment on the territory of ukraine and poland, is not entirely clear, where he is based, this unit of about 15 people probably

published a photograph that allegedly handed over 150 drones to this unit, and this was the first screen, the second screen is where the unit itself says that the same people gave them two drones, where there are 148 drones stated, have you watched this one? post, no, i haven’t seen this post yet, but nothing surprises me, because the war in general is the utrusk war, it revealed a lot of things, there is the movement of people, human trafficking, including corruption, yes, because she's just kind of crazy there, i'm not just talking about this one - a gender that doesn't exist, yes, but also about ukraine, because it seems to me that stealing money like that is already indecent, even. in front of their people, who are dying and who are sent for meat, all people understand this, but today they do not have a mechanism for those who remained there

to rise up and declare this, because people are afraid, today there is very serious repression by the sbu in their regard, therefore, and as for this regiment, well, what are we talking about here? to say, if there are 15 people, why do they need 150 drones, well, in general, yes, it seems logical, yes, so they showed, yes, they divided the rest, sold everything. normal, great, look, interesting - the situation is unfolding with the sending of western troops to the territory of ukraine, by the way, let's first discuss a little something else, just the other day, were you following the situation or not, a polish general committed suicide somewhere, suddenly by accident, before several american generals accidentally committed suicide, somewhere in the mountains someone lost their head on skis, someone a private plane will crash. that is , well, somehow there are too many such random deaths, in particular regarding this death

of a polish general, an interesting story, the day before there was a publication in one of the telegram channels that a blow had been struck at decision-making centers on the territory of ukraine, expect it in the near future time information will appear that one of the high-ranking european military, something happened to him once again, like this... happened, this polish general, literally a few hours later the news surfaced that he died somewhere under unclear, let's say, circumstances, in your opinion, this situation, it in no way resonates in the news of the european countries, of which these high-ranking military personnel are representatives, including whether this correlates with the very

statements about , which is already necessary... people without professional education in the military sphere understand that there is a simple rule: in order to carry out, say, offensive actions, it is necessary to create

a group exceeding the number of three times from its potential rival or enemy, so, in order for belarus to be able to somehow create a threat to the polish state, poland now has an army of almost 200,000 bayonets, belarus needs to create an army of 600,000 in order, say, to provide some kind of yes, influence, and even just a hypothetical threat to create for the poles, it is necessary to create 600,000, we currently have an army of 60,000 together with civilian

personnel with... he asked whether a conditional parliament would allow him, and he asked the opinion of the french on about this, are the french ready to fight for other people’s national interests, or are there french national interests there, a little, say, at a distant distance from paris, what do you think about this? of course, there are today in ukraine there are interests of all the countries of the european union, of all those who surrounded ukraine, so the french will not die in vain, no, they will die. most likely the french will not get anything, it’s a slightly different story, because ukraine has already been divided today, and in fact this is not an absolute joke, the question has been divided it’s just how much, how much russia will allow to take, but the fact that today they are behaving like mongrels, snapping at russia itself, but at the same time they are already waiting for what will happen, when this ukraine will surrender,

this is certainly happening, everyone has already outlined a piece for themselves, somewhere in behind-the-scenes conversations. will go to jail in france for she has been in the donbass for 8 years, because she once simply started talking about who was actually shelling the donbass, and after that she began to pose a danger to the national security of france, when i also voice my discussions with colleagues from europe, i try not to name names, because i know that at the moment, let’s say, freedom of speech weighs so heavily on their shoulders that then the majority ends up in the dungeons

of the kazimats, there is this is what she told us... we were discussing exactly the moment that macron is going to send 2.0 of his soldiers, his soldiers, yes, because he is, as it were, his personal soldiers, and she is going to send them to the front, to ukraine said that again, this is so, in general, the situation is as follows, it’s just that in this way he wants, let’s say, to bring out the public field of where the soldiers are already there,

that is, to legalize, yes, to legalize. the fact that there are french and polish troops there, that’s what we were talking about, that the general died in an unknown place, but died, yes, you know, we must give credit to the french, they really, well... military wars, here without i’m speaking sarcastically, it’s a fairly serious military school and so on, and it seems to me that the military leadership there has natural questions, why are ours soldiers arrive in zinc coffins, all this is done anonymously, without any awards, honors and so on, you’re just like a bag of garbage returning from an unknown war, completely forgotten,

despite the fact that you sacrificed yourself for... what will you tell the parents, for example, the relatives of this person, is he a hero in general, or what happened to him, and how do these people write off in general in the army, in the french, do they even tell their relatives that he was on the territory of ukraine or he crashed, for example, somewhere, because these are the same polish exercises, well, five people died, did they die during the exercises, or maybe somewhere in ukraine they just cooked it, hit the wrong side, they were torn into pieces there and

were simply written off as. .. where zelensky is depicted, in some kind of apostolic costume, i saw an icon like that, but i didn’t quite understand, it was lying on the ground, yes, you saw about it, yes, i saw about it, when he just swears and says that these are the leaflets, these are the icons, and the icons were distributed at the front, he he says: you’re making fun of us, people are dying here, and you’re handing out this, excuse me, shit, here, he threw it away and urinated, well, completely. i just think that a separate separate group of people is being taken for fools, you know, at the front, again, looking at the videos that people publish, ukrainians with the front line on tiktok,

a logical question arises, because, for example, a tough conflict between the older and younger generations, when men are sitting, supposedly 50 years old, some kind of, well, i’m sorry, immature, approaches them, twenty years old asks: oh, listen, grandfather , how old are you? oh, the man answers him, and he says: so maybe you also served there in world war ii? and he was like: no, but my grandfather fought, he was like: oh, they say, you are red. begins to incline it according to cases, that ’s the same thing, the same internal political situation within the organization itself, let ’s say, because it’s venarized, lately i want to call it less and less often, but terrorist more and more often, unfortunately, because the guru, the armed forces of ukraine, these are the units that are currently carry out terrorist attacks on the civilian population of the russian federation, including what we have seen. the other day a film was released about how

terrorist attacks are organized on the territory of the republic of belarus, the information and analytical project current microphone was broadcast on the belarusian radio tv channel belarus24, with you the presenter andrei sych, as well as our guest journalist

ksenia lebedeva. see you. we did not test nuclear weapons on civilians, the soviet army was in afghanistan, it was, but what was the soviet union doing there? built plants and factories, paved roads, treated people, leaving there, he left civilized society, the americans came, how many times did drug production jump in afghanistan, not even several times, the civilized world without ridicule. without irony,

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