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[000:00:00;00] russian expert vladimir kornilov shared this opinion with our tv channel. you understand that ukrainian radical nationalism was cultivated there in ukraine for a very long time, for decades. these are the ideological concepts that were created. there were significant grants for this in western countries. and i say all this again, i was nurturing in ukraine for a very long time, and accordingly, they suddenly appeared out of nowhere . the so-called bandera members of yaroslav statsko already then began to overthrow monuments to soviet soldiers and all this indeed, it was very actively nurtured, significant funds were invested in this, the result we see now is who is coming to power in europe today, how ordinary citizens of ukraine were convinced that their heroes are crazy criminals and who is behind war crimes on the territory of belarus. watch the trends project
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today after the panorama. like hardships. war childhood were reflected in the fate of creativity, a guest of the program say don’t be silent, artist nikolai opiok frankly said, the author has a whole portrait gallery of outstanding belarusians, among them biathlete daria dumracheva, cosmonauts vladimir kovalunok and oleg novitsky, is the artist preparing a space triptych with marina vasilevskaya, why did he support actor gennady ovsyanikov during political attacks in 1920, and is art reflected in the ideology of the state? culture and art are the second wing of state ideology, then a powerful wing like the first, these two wings, it holds this bird, it must, it will get away from the enemy with the help of these wings, what is it about? says the president: there is no need to get involved in politics, you need to do your job politically competently and worthy of replenishment, the new release of the project
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“tell me not to be silent” is already available for viewing on... all internet platforms of the bel tv and radio company. in memory, eternal flame. a project under this name began to burn in the country's main library. the premiere is timed to coincide with victory day, the eightieth anniversary of the liberation of belarus from the nazi invaders. the format is diverse, you can view book, documentary and visual materials about the contribution of belarusians of the entire soviet people to liberation of the country. the exhibition focuses on essays about the feats of medical workers at the front. thematic shows are also planned. war films. the project will last until november this year. detailed information on the official website of the national library of belarus. that's all for me, i say goodbye to you, and at 3:00 pm my colleagues will update the information. stay on the first
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button. music dj. hello everyone, soon a hero will come to us who will answer everything, but first, according to tradition, our questions to the heroes: where is it more exciting to perform on the parade ground in front of suvorov officers or in front of television cameras, what’s here and what’s there, your audience is children, so i think it’s the same. do you agree with the statement that children are sensitive to when they are told a lie. i'm convinced. well,
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then good luck, dear program participants. dmitry vladimirovich, i want to warn you that according to the rules of our program, if for any reason you cannot or do not want to answer, you have the right to refuse the question three times and be careful, at the end of the program you... should choose the best one question, now you have one minute to briefly introduce yourself. time has passed. i am dmitry kuchok, born in the republic of belarus, in the city of marinagorka, i grew up there as a family worker. throughout my life , i changed more than one garrison together with my parents, which, let’s say, was the fundamental choice of my profession. and i
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walked from the colonel's vault. thank you, you did it in one minute, excellent bearing, and now questions from the audience, we have 100 participants in the studio. seeing what the officers do, what they do soldiers, instilled in me this love for the armed forces, by the age of 15 i had clearly formed the idea that i would be
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an officer and an officer of special operations forces. your father often brought you to his work, i was always next to him. at all different events, and the events were different, these included some kind of demonstration performances in hand-to-hand combat, and parachute jumps, fire training, and many moments that are included in the combat training program of these units, that’s why i’m here and i’m in uniform , what was your first step towards the profession? you can divide your childhood into two parts, so to speak, this is the part when i was at school in order to enter the sovar school, the second part, when i studied at
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the youth paratroopers club, this is, well, according to modern patriotic class, here in one of the sections was parachute jumping, and in front of the sovarsky school, i boldly and confidently made three parachute jumps. which was the first step of my cherished goal, to become a paratrooper. what skills should possess suvorvis and what selection criteria exist? this is, first of all , the boy’s desire to become a sulorov student, his readiness to take it and pass physical training tests, professional selection tests, and also to pass a test in mathematics. language, and the most important thing is to be healthy, that’s it, the road is open. now you have to turn around, the purple sector. how does studying at the svovorov school differ from studying at a regular school? well, probably from the first
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days of being within the walls of our suurov military school, the boy understands that with on the one hand, this is a school, on the other hand, this is... a small army, what is this? well, here’s a simple example for you, here you go home after school, somewhere you go outside, run, somewhere look at the computer, here you have settled into a clearly regulated daily routine: getting up at 7 o’clock in the morning, making your bed, washing, physical exercise, breakfast , after which he drops out for classes. after lunch he has time for personal needs, as well as for visiting various clubs and electives according to his interests, after which the suorz decreases self-preparation, what it is, it’s just
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preparation for tomorrow’s classes, what is asked as usual at school, with photos, just like in a regular school they give homework, he does it all, but the only difference from... school is what you do at home is alone, and suvorov students do it as part of a training platoon of a group, after which there is dinner, watching tv shows, an evening walk and lights out, that is, if an ordinary student is given more time to himself, then there is constant control from the outside teachers, from
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officers-educators, well, i guess i was an ordinary student. yes, i, like any boy, could run, jump, and have fun somewhere. regarding my favorite subjects, my favorite subject was history, geography, foreign languages, and despite the fact that i loved foreign languages, so to speak, my main least favorite subject was the russian language, and you yourself ironed shirts and hemmed collars, yes, there is such a tradition in our sorovsky military school that... after the first line,
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after the presentation of the scarlet shoulder straps to the freshmen, the senior courses go to show them how to properly hem a collar, help him sew on his first shoulder straps in life, and then everything is done on your own, my name is snezhana, and at what age were you the first time you picked up a real weapon, you were scared , was this in childhood? so, let’s say, for about 10-11 years, it probably wasn’t scary, it was most likely, probably exciting, because this is a military weapon, well, probably, it was, as there was already a question before, the first step towards my childhood dream of becoming an officer, what do you think? why in our time do people fight and kill each other, why can’t they come to an agreement? a very relevant question, anya, i’m very pleased
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to answer it unequivocally, it probably won’t work, well, first of all, i think, both in the past and now, there is a certain circle of people who believe that their opinion is theirs desire, it is higher than others. people that are no better than other people, probably this is salvation, the fact that wars develop, wars are started, or human blood is shed. unfortunately, throughout the history of our humanity there have been wars never stopped. you yourself know that
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there are various armed conflicts going on now. the black sector is to your left. who do you think resolves conflicts better, politicians or the military, and what is stronger, the word or the weapon? there is such an expression, a fight prevented, there is a fight won. our politicians are doing everything to prevent bloodshed on our land, and as i... said, we
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are lucky in this, firstly we are very lucky that at the head of our state is a very strong -willed person who madly loves our country, our people, who are making every effort, even possible and impossible, to prevent this bleeding on our territory, although there are a lot of people who want it. and probably, a lot really depends on politicians, because the use of military force, well, this is a continuation of politics, if politicians agree, if politicians can keep everything in their hands, then we will avoid bloodshed, and we will live peacefully, then the yellow sector to your left, please, in one of your interviews you... said that the main task of suborovsky school is to educate a patriot of your
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country, what do you understand by the word patriot? well, first of all, this is such a multifaceted concept of a patriot, but this is a person who selflessly loves his family, parents, sisters, brothers, friends, who is able to stand up for them at any moment, even... without taking into account his own interests, this is the person who wants to benefit his state, this is the person. who does not run around the squares, does not shout various slogans, calmly does his job, let it be in the military sphere, economic sphere, in education, well, in any activity of our society, but its most important task will be to bring benefit, and
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if each of us brings benefit in our place, our state will only prosper and develop . did you immediately learn the military salute, didn’t get your hands mixed up, i saw what the military personnel do, how drills are conducted , among other things, so the adaptation went very quickly, you can teach me, it’s easy, come on in, well, first of all, turn around, well, look here, and your shoulders. there are several options for giving a military greeting while moving on the spot with a headdress without a headdress. today i will show you how easy it is to give a military
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greeting without a headdress on the spot when a senior commander appears. head towards the boss, placing the foot of the next step, you continue to move, thereby giving onsky’s commands, well, let’s also say that due to the nature of my work i often communicate with young people, this is a traditional question, i was ready for it, so you should
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memory, here’s a reminder of drill training, thank you. they say guys don’t cry, are you embarrassed by tears, what can make you cry?
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well, am i embarrassed by tears? well, probably, in childhood, yes, i was a little shy, now i understand. for years you liked some girl, of course you liked her, yeah, but did you manage to meet, did you go on a date? i managed to meet, but in order to meet the girl i loved, i had to behave well for a whole week, study well, without getting bad grades, so that
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saturday-sunday to get a leave of absence to go home to meet with her, and if i got a bad mark or indulged, accordingly i didn’t go anywhere. interesting details. we turn 180°. the next question comes from there. red sector. is it true that all suvorovites belong to the brotherhood, is it some kind of secret brotherhood? no, there are no secrets here. as i said earlier, we are a closed educational institution. in what sense ? that from monday to sunday we are located weekly constantly, the guys are constantly together, they are together, they go for physical exercises, they have breakfast together, they... go to classes together, they help each other with various household chores, participate in various competitions, visit
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cinemas, museums, films, discos, somewhere maybe they share their innermost secrets, that he likes some girl, that he would like to achieve some goals, to become an officer of this type of troops, this...
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we meet, literally that year on anniversary we constantly communicate, call each other, we celebrated our school’s seventieth anniversary, i saw many, even guys i hadn’t seen for a long time, so to speak, constantly in touch, constantly. was side by side. does svorovets have his own oath ? do you remember it by heart? of course, there is
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an oath, since the guys are under the age of 18, they do not have the right to take an oath according to our law, but upon entering the sovorov school, they take the suvorov oath. this happens solemnly, on a solemn line. on always with the invitation of the top officials of the state, with the invitation of school graduates, well, accordingly, parents, brothers, sisters, our boys come out and solemnly take an oath, and you’re lucky, come out here, such an oath, it includes three sections, the first is to be loyal to their fatherland, the second to the military traditions
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of the armed forces... but nevertheless, they have time to relax, to pursue their hobbies, this is the time after lunch, when the guys attend various clubs, electives, currently very, so to speak, causes great the kids' interest is in unmanned aerial systems; the kids can also learn these skills within the walls of the slorov school. forgiveness with weapons, there is also a shooting section under the guidance of very highly qualified
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teachers, the guys also attend various clubs not only within the walls of the school, but also outside it, much attention in the school is paid to the development of creative skills, singing, dancing, the ability to communicate and joke . the so-called kvn, that is, an expression that the guys have no free time time, they have a lot of free time, they just spend this time usefully, so i think that they have enough time, and the most important thing is that with all this they are constantly under the control of trained teachers, trained educational officers. a lot of officer-educators are graduates of our school. please tell us about your happiest
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memory from your cadet period? well, probably the happiest of the cadet period, when we took the cadet oath, it took place near minsk, at one of the training grounds republic of belarus, in the evening, during the evening inspection, the castle platoon read out an oath, and we all, to each person who heard the name, answered, i cense on... those that we study in the textbook? well, the most important difference is that the world does not stand still, it moves, develops,
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military science develops with them, the forms of warfare change. therefore, yes, we analyze how various military conflicts proceed or occur, and not that we study, and we introduce, we tell the suvorovites that there is such, such, such a method and form, there is such a method and form, and there is a classic, so definitely we, as modern military personnel... constantly study, analyze, in order to then teach our upbringings . they say that in the army the food is healthy, filling, but not always tasty, but how are things going with this in school and do you have a favorite dish? well, i probably won’t do any advertising, i’m just
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inviting you to a meal at our sovorov military school, come to it. say that they will meet you at my place, feed you, then you will tell everyone how they feed you, and no joke, the food is very good, very tasty, the diet is different, these include meat products, these are sausages, these are fish products, these are yoghurts, juices, various , various cereals, soups, here i’ll be honest, the diet is very, very rich, and as for my favorite dish, well, probably, since my childhood was spent partly on the territory of military camps, and partly with my grandparents, we grandparents lived in village, my favorite is probably fried potatoes and fried meat, lard. many years after graduating from the svorod school, you returned to it, but in the role
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of a boss, what has changed in... within the walls of the school over the years, and you immediately recognized the corridors of the classrooms, the school is a cultural and historical value of the republic of belarus, first floor , this was at one time a theological women's seminary, and in fact the corridors there have not changed, they have been transformed, as they are... the very location of the school, since it is in the center of minsk, has also not actually changed, but it was the educational and material base has been expanded, a lot of sports facilities have appeared, a lot of computer classes have appeared, a modern medical center has appeared on the territory of the school, and in some places the
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uniform has changed. and so to say that the corridors were globally swapped, no, everything remained the same as it was with me, so, of course, i found out, and another such remark is that throughout my life i still came to the scenes of my native college, i met friends and teachers there, so it was such a failure that i graduated here, here appeared, i didn’t have one, somewhere from time to time i visited the stages of my native school. it’s true that cadets have to train for a very long time to learn how to march so beautifully, well, for a long time, i wouldn’t say so, but in order to hone their drill bearing, for this there are certain drill classes, where, let’s say,
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for a certain time sugorov’s are on the parade ground. and improve your drill training, since here we showed you, we start with a drill stand, then move with a troop step, to say a lot time. well, i probably don’t need to say that it takes a lot of time, a certain amount of time, but it does take, because, well , it’s no secret that our boys are always the first to open parades in our country, they set the pace for the whole parade, and you can imagine what a responsibility these boys have, that they go first with the drums, tapping the step, beautifully. believe me, it’s very exciting, but can you teach me? easy, miron, don’t be shy, please go out to the parade ground, but i suggest doing
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this is for some other young man, i’m trying, stand, this is to take an island stance, chin higher, we walk, this is a preliminary command, that’s right, move the body forward, that’s right, the center of gravity of the jump is on your toes, move it like that, from your left leg we are taking a clear island step, marching, we are almost ready for the apparatus, a wonderful experience, let's move on to the next question, this is the purple sector, it is to your right, why are girls not accepted into the school, girls are very upset. change some your foundations, rules? throughout the cessation of development of the sovrov schools,
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which were created in 1943, the first of them, these schools, were based on the traditions of the cadet corps of the tsarist army, the cadet corps of the tsarist army were always enrolled only to young men. school, in the russian federation, in our country, and for girls we have created cadet schools, patriotic classes, where you can undergo the same training as the suvorov soldiers undergo, only a little, so to speak, at a lower level, and after that to enter the military academy, we
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we are always waiting for beautiful girls. what is more important for a military man: to be strong or to be smart? you know, the modern world, modern weapons require very high mental abilities from military personnel, because these are various sights, these are quadcopters, this is a large system, so to speak, of communications and control. therefore, there is no such concept, strong means he is better, and smart means he is weaker, no, the combination of these two qualities
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is currently probably the criterion for a member of the armed forces our homeland, who is ready to ask a question, hello, my name is ivan, what does the word boy mean to you? well, probably, at my age, it is already more relevant to say the word of a cadet, the word of a man, the word of an officer, but nevertheless, the meaning does not change from this, this is, first of all, responsibility. what's your favorite song? blue, blue berets. let's sleep. the blue spilled, splashed, spilled over the shoulder straps, over the berets, i want
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this song to continue according to the harsh, according to the landing precepts, an all-round brave man. and in what situations does the army discipline? helped you in everyday life? well, in childhood, like all children, sometimes, you don’t want to do something. there is already an internal consciousness that this is necessary, this is necessary, this is your main task, then the question is from the red sector, you will have to turn around, raise your hand, whoever
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asks it, i wish you health... name is rastislav, the young hero of the movie, the officers received a punishment for that , that instead of lessons you went to see a hippopotamus, did you receive any punishment during your service, of course you did, somewhere you didn’t understand the instructions correctly enough, orders, somewhere he himself was wrong. therefore , i had to receive a punishment, and then, of course, i tried to improve myself, to get encouragement from my commanders, it was like this, can you tell me an example, well, let’s take the svorovsky school, but when i entered the sorovsky school, my first outfit, and what is outfit, these are four people on duty.
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they restore order around the clock, maintain order, at that time we were still delivering barrels of food to each table for the entire company, well , there is a line when you are standing on the bedside table, well for about an hour there are 45 minutes, without a habit it’s quite difficult, you can’t stand in one place, you can’t lean. you can’t sit down , you can’t lie down, you just stand at your will, well, i see there’s no one there, i think i’ll go and sit in the utility room, well, at that time the foreman comes in, well, that was probably my first punishment, yes, it’s clear that there’s no one there they didn’t shout at me, nothing, they tried to explain to me that i was wrong, the punishment consisted of a suggestion that there was a need. you
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are responsible for this, for this, and you are obliged here to be, especially at that time there were still a number of premises that we were guarding, that ’s probably my first punishment was, belarus is a very peace-loving country, then why do we need an army, you know, girl, back in the 15th century, the french commander napoleon, who tried...
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therefore, not a single state in the world can do without its armed forces. next, the black sector is to your left. what do you think is more important: to be able to attack or to be able to defend? well, it depends from what angle you look at it. if viewed from perspective fight, it is important to be able to attack, too. it’s time to be able to defend, to defend, if you look from a military point of view, defense is good, but without an attack there will be no victory, so i believe that these two words, they are always side by side, if you want to win, you must
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be able to defend and attack. tell us about your family, do you have a wife, children, of course, there is a spouse, she is her teacher, there are children who, however, have already grown up, they have their own families, but i think i have been lucky in life. there's a person next to me a like-minded person who, you know, like in the movie matchmakers, yes, who watched, there... ivan stepanovich gave a good definition of what a family is, it’s a mechanism, a domestic assembly, which when you need to stroke it, when you need to stick it in, so i think that i was lucky, my wife always
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supported me in everything, guided me in some places, gave me hints in others, and most importantly , even now, i really... listen to her very much, because she has many times more teaching experience much more than i have him, she is my teacher primary school, so for me family is sacred, it is the most precious thing that any person has, in particular me. dmitry vladimirovich, did your children become military? some have journalism, others have medicine, these are some of these areas. the red sector is next for us, i heard that cyber troops have appeared in belarus, what is this? is it
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to play shooting games and tanks on the computer? well, probably not entirely correct, but in principle, yes, indeed, development. armed forces, it does not stand still, modern trends they dictate to us the conditions in order to have a special unit that will be engaged in the development of the armed forces, specifically in cyberspace, well, what is cyberspace, this is for well, in your understandable language, these are specialists, these are people who develop programs. armed forces, are assembling some kind of simulators, developing communication, control, and weapons systems that will facilitate the accomplishment of victory tasks if necessary.
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next question from the purple sector: how do you cope with stress? well maybe, just s... he says, why are you silent, you ’re nervous, i’m carrying something in me, in myself, in myself, somewhere, well, of course, when i come home, my wife is always later in conversation, when you express it to a person close to you to a person, about his problems, what has boiled over. somehow it becomes easier on the soul; already in a calm state you can make the only correct and correct decision. hello, my name is zlata. you have come a long way from cadet to colonel, wearing different shoulder straps.
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do the military have star fever and do you dream of becoming a general? well there is such a thing expression: a bad soldier is one who does not consider becoming a general, so of course. any savvy, excursionist, officer, he wants to achieve some specific career growth, including becoming a general, not everyone, of course, manages to reach this level, but nevertheless, i believe there are no star diseases, behind this lies the everyday sweaty work, you can’t achieve some high ranks in the armed forces by lying on the couch. this is first of all work, work on yourself, work with your team, and most importantly, for every commander 90%, even 95% of his success is his team, these
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are the people who stand behind him, if the team trusts its leader, the leader has every chance of achieving high ranks and positions, if the team does not trust... i think it is very difficult do. the next question is the red sector. hello, my name is svetlana. my question is: is it true that every suvorovite knows how to dance? yes its true. we purposefully work on teaching our students to dance ballroom dancing. do you know how to dance? a little? what if i i’ll make you sad, won’t you refuse to dance? easily. it's called the white dance, when ladies
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invite gentlemen, do you know how to dance? thank you, this is one of the oldest, very worthy, in my opinion, traditions of the sugurov school, bravo, if you were offered to film a biography, who or perhaps what would you like to make a film about? well, first of all, about my family, not just my family... my wife and children, but about my parents, about my grandparents,
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about my friends, about how the formation of special operations forces took place armed forces of the republic of belarus, there are a lot of interesting moments there, well, probably, here are two such directions of life, which i would choose, if you had a chance to see a person from the past, then who is it ? probably, it’s impossible to say so definitely, who if i specifically wanted to see, to visit my childhood, i probably would, this does not mean that my path in life would probably change, but maybe i would have done completely differently in my attitude towards some things -to another. dmitry vladimirovich, this signal means that time
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questions have expired. now you have to choose the best question of this program. who spoke about family? introduce yourself, what school are you from, what grade are you in? i'm from school 153. i'm in eighth grade. according to the rules of our program, the author of the best question, roma, receives a special gift from our guest. go out onto the site, well, roma, i would like to first of all give you this book, which was published in honor of our seventieth anniversary, since childhood, we were each given your name, this is svorovits, well, small keepsakes, thank you for your question, thank you very much. dmitry vladimirovich, now you can ask the children
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your question. question for everyone. are there any young guys in the audience who would like to enter the slovak military school? i am very attracted to military affairs; since childhood i dreamed of becoming a military man, but unfortunately, due to poor eyesight, i’m unlikely to be able to. realize your dream, why do you need to approach it from a medical point of view, you need to get checked, or maybe it’s age-related, so don’t be foolish, everything will be fine, you just need to always achieve your goal goals, i would like to become more disciplined, well, learn to defend myself if someone attacks, i agree with you, there is an opportunity within our walls, i really
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wanted to enter the suvorov school, girls are not accepted there, you gave me the name of other institutions, where i can go, and i ’m very happy about it, we, as i say, we are always waiting for beautiful girls in the ranks of the armed forces, it’s time to say goodbye to our audience, dear guys, i’m glad i talked today. with you, if suddenly you had any questions and i didn’t answer them, come to the school, i’m always there, well , see you again, the head of the minsk suburov military school, colonel dmitry kuchuk, today i’m visiting the program 100 questions for adults, i’m waiting for you at the entrance to the site, here i’ll ask you to stay, which one of the questions asked today was the most difficult for you? well,
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probably the question is why people fought and continue to fight. it is certainly very gratifying that our children at such a young age are interested in such complex issues. what question have you been waiting for, but you were never asked? well, they probably asked all the questions that the children would be interested in, and i tried to answer them sincerely. today you managed to answer 52 questions, tell me. if we call you again, will you agree to come? with pleasure. and now i turn to our audience: do you think that our hero was as frank as possible with you today? whoever thinks so, raise your hands. well, it seemed to me that he answered our questions very openly and honestly. he seemed like a very simple and kind person, i hope that everyone
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people will follow his example. it seemed to me quite honest, because he spoke with reason. all the questions, while simultaneously giving truthful answers, so i am very glad that i came here, i was very interested in listening to the opinion of such a specialist in my field. who thinks that dmitry vladimirovich was cunning, didn’t say enough, was a little disingenuous? and i think that she didn’t finish the word a little, because the questions about why people continue
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to fight, his answer was quite general, so it’s even better that. would protect the child’s psyche, that’s right, yes, that’s also true, dmitry vladimirovich, we have this rule: the hero always has the last word, sum up the conversation that took place. i believe that our two-way conversation was probably as open and as honest as possible; the questions were really interesting and quite unexpected, so i am glad that such a meeting is taking place. somehow such projects are of interest to our youth. the head of the minsk suovorov military school , colonel dmitry kuchuk, was a guest today on the program 100 questions for adults. before meeting in a week. watch in the next
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issue. dear program participants, today. our guest is tv presenter, honored artist of belarus, alena speredovich. let's meet! do you worry before your broadcasts? can there be friendship between the presenters or just competition? what would the world be like without journalism? how do you manage to deal with star fever? how do you manage to smile even when you want to cry? 100 questions for an adult: in order to work on television, you have no right to be sick, you have to learn very little sleep a lot, work a lot, you also need to always be in a good mood, this is also part of
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my job. karbyshev dmitry mikhailovich, participant in the great patriotic war, soviet military engineer, lieutenant general of the engineering troops, professor. at the beginning of june 1941, karbyshev was sent to the western special military district. the great patriotic war found him at... at the headquarters of the third army in grodno. on june 27, the army headquarters was surrounded. in august 1941, while trying to get out of encirclement, the lieutenant general was seriously shell-shocked in a battle in the dnieper region. in an unconscious state he was captured. the nazis repeatedly tried
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to persuade karbyshev to commit treason; he refused to serve the nazis. on the night of february 18 , 1945, in the mounthousen concentration camp, along with other prisoners, he was doused with water in the cold and died. for exceptional steadfastness and courage shown in the fight against the german invaders in the great patriotic war, lieutenant general of the engineering troops, dmitry mikhailovich karbyshev was awarded
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the title of hero of the soviet union. posthumously. those who came from the fields did not once come to our land, but turned into white cranes,
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they still, from those distant times, fly and give us voices, isn’t that why we are so often

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