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this is my homeland, this is my love, this is my life, and i am happy that i will live here, here, where i was born, where i was born, where i came in handy, this is about me, what will happen to polesie in many years, i think that woodland will probably exist, be reborn, and life, life will be in full swing here, this is... the region, here, i think, it will be easy and free to breathe.
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vasily trafimovich varonyansky, one of the leaders of the partisan movement in the minsk region. years of the great patriotic war, born august 25, 1901 years in the village of dekanka, poltava region, participant in the civil war and the battles at lake khasan in 1938. for impeccable service he was awarded a personalized watch from the people's commissar of defense voroshilov. at the beginning of the great patriotic war he found himself surrounded. with a handful of fighters made their way to
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the east, they managed to get to the logoisk region and organize the avenger partisan detachment, which later grew into a brigade. voronyansky's partisans destroyed more than 13,000 german police soldiers, derailed 161 trains, blew up 152 bridges, destroyed seven aircraft, five tanks, 325 vehicles and six guns. in september 1943 , the plane on which voronyansky was flying to moscow came under fire. the commander of the partisan brigade was mortally wounded. soon after the death of kambrig, the partisans received a radiogram informing them that the people's avengers partisan brigade had been named after its commander and organizer. today it bears the name of voronyansky.
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streets in minsk, lagoisk pleshchennitsy. we tell you how to choose. quality products for healthy meals. take the nuts to hands, estimate their weight. don't take ones that are too light. such fruits either have no kernels at all, or they are dried out. ground beef is dark red in color and has a pleasant smell with a slight milky aroma. a proper breakfast is the key to health and good mood. today we will prepare lasagna with pumpkin and spinach. quite unusual, but it seems to me. sometimes
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you can pamper yourself, let's get started if you have a difficult day ahead and you know that you need a huge amount of energy, this is the breakfast that is like once again it will help you, don’t forget about invigorating exercises, we raise our arms up, raise our legs and do this cool exercise, cockroach, we start shaking our arms and legs, our lymph flow starts, watch the breakfast of the champion project, on the belarus24 tv channel. children's curiosity and genuine interest, absolute honesty and sincere emotions of the characters. hello everyone, in exactly a minute a hero will come to us who will answer everything. are you ready to meet our hero? why do you think the children chose you to talk to? i hope i can answer their questions. a talk show in which famous people answer tricky questions. the younger generation,
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how do you differ at work from yourself at home, it seems to me, solely in appearance, i turn from some kind of grumpy person into a cute one. kitty, no, i’m either grinza everywhere, or kitty everywhere, how do you feel when people feel sorry for you, extremely categorically negative, to feel sorry is not the same as to sympathize, pity is an arrogant feeling, this is a feeling of superiority, see project 100 questions to an adult on tv channel belarus 24.
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alexander alexandrovich, good evening, hello, sergeevich, today we live in a terrible time, when the last veterans are leaving. great patriotic war, and the collective west does not hesitate to rewrite history, at such moments an effective symbol of heroism is needed more than ever. the brest fortress is also a symbol of the collapse of the wehrmacht's hopes for the blitz creek. in conditions of complete encirclement , no one expected such courage from the soviet people. well, by the way, as well as from the belarusians. let's say frankly, in the twentieth year. yes. just like 80 years ago, the citadel is at the forefront of a war, a new war, informational, hybrid, do you see parallels in these events? i see, because i’ve been working, as it were , in the fortress since 2003, yes, so i’ve already seen a lot over the years and felt, when i came from
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the krovech museum work to work in the brest fortress, there was already a certain historical attack, a falsification on the fortress, so it’s not accidental.. we joke bitterly that we have another defense of the brest fortress, only now from falsifiers of history and this is scary, but we need to understand that falsification is possible only in a society that does not know its history well, therefore our very important task, and it is no coincidence that we have a historical policy in our state, now it is insistent, that our youth especially knew her history, because we say: that we must raise a citizen of the country, but a citizen of the country, his inherent quality, without which he cannot be a real citizen of knowledge of his history and respect for his history, therefore our citadel, our the brez fortress, it seems to me, is now playing a particularly important role in educating
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a citizen, instilling pride in one’s country. you know, it’s not by chance that i invited you to the program today, because in reality we’ve known each other for probably years. before our eyes is a reminder of fascism, this symbol of our heroism is before our eyes, how could they fall for western manipulation in 2020, especially since, well, let’s just go a little further south, at that moment nazism had been flourishing in ukraine for at least 6 years, that’s what
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this is a blurry look, a greenhouse effect said, do you have your own answer? you know, i also thought about this, because this question also bothered me, because in brest, there really were collisions on masherov boulevard, but they destroyed everything, they broke vandalism, this happened and it seemed, well, perhaps we didn’t improve on something - well, then i realized that these guys who defended our country, and the president who defended our country, they were also in the brest fortress, an excursion, so after all, the fact that we defended the country is our essential role, and why, why did these people come out, everything that you listed, it’s all true, a certain typicality, somewhat infantile, i ’ll tell you, because now life is like it
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’s never been in belarus, calm, well-fed by and large , even look at the number of cars in brest, it’s a huge number, and people probably thought that it would always be like this. but what are the manipulations , you know, what immediately repulsed and shocked me, these, remember, 3%, yeah, that is, there are 97 of us, and you have 3%, someone trembled and... thought that it would be better with the majority, they went in these demonstrations, but it was such a blatant manipulation, and i think, how am i there, my family, yes, my friends, and how are the people in the regions, in rural areas, should you immediately cross them out, that is, these are not people, this is 3%, this is a huge mass of the population, but about ukraine i’ll just say, for me such a marker of this happened is that at one time... immediately after its acquisition, probably, the independence of ukraine, if i’m not mistaken, renamed the museum of the great patriotic war to the museum of the second world war
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war in kiev, yes it would seem, well , aren’t they right, but you see, there is such a big difference between the second world war and the great patriotic war, even where the war was for the seizure of territories, for the seizure of economic countries and so on, in our country, where the war was going for destruction, you see, the question of reconciliation immediately arises. it won’t work, because you understand, ukraine is our fraternal people, now in connection with the war in ukraine, you watch these videos and empathize, and the slavs are dying there, they remember that, well, our people, yes, what defenders of the brest fortress, how many ukrainian heroes there were. you ask yourself: how did you get to this life? and this is like we had in the twentieth year, a quiet change of consciousness,
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manipulation, historical memory, and what is their own for them, well, i have already said more than once, and during my excursions i say, well, you understand, excursions come from ukraine, they are good people, all ours, but for them we gradually had to explain, ours, who are ours, you know, they are gradually now the red army by default, as for us, they no longer have that. was being prepared in 1956, it’s called the museum of the defense of the brest fortress, there would be a museum of the storming of the brest fortress, as
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they are trying to do, you know, that is, everything would be reformatted, yes, i just see in retrospect back and forth that how clearly it is gradually little by little this policy was just underway, turning into the fact that the brez fortress is a soviet myth, that there was nothing here, don’t believe the excursions there, nothing, we ’ll tell you another one now. true story, that is, the periodically raised question about that in reality there was no heroic defense, of course, of course, that the memorial is soviet propaganda, that the writer sergei sergeevich smirnov is a propagandist, he exaggerated everything here, that there is nothing to be proud of, this is the key word, look, some pseudo-historians, they also claim that the supposed defense of the brest fortress, yes, as such, is a fiction, the red army soldiers surrendered en masse , that’s the most ridiculous one. if you personally had to debunk the myth, i won’t say that they are ridiculous, but bitter, perhaps even for
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perceptions, firstly, our sofa experts, dear ones, i often had to read that there was a living barrier, this is all a myth invented by the defenders of the fortress, this is that the germans were hiding behind a living barrier of women and children, i decided this question for myself unequivocally, you see, there was also a military meaning in this living barrier. they took certain positions, hiding behind women prisoners, children there, the second memory is numerous, one of our women wrote, the commander’s wife, that they put me and the children there near the guns that were firing direct fire on the positions of the defenders of the brest fortress, her son became deaf, after that he was deaf in one ear, you know, modernity is a historian, he must always compare it with modernity, even on excursions, when we lead excursions, well, you can’t... they only tell history, we must always update this excursion, so you see, the war in
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ukraine, this is a terrible, bitter war, shows that living barriers are the trademark of the nazis, so for me in this moral sense, not only historical, i fully believe that they are did, did these war crimes, but you have to prove it on excursions to say that , believe me, the crimes of fascism are not made up, this is the topic of executions, that for some time in germany... they said that no, wehrmach, honest soldiers, they could not shoot on hitler’s orders , yes, about the treatment of prisoners, there, but the treatment of commissars, jews, like, no, only the sss did that. there are no wehrmachs, well, numerous documents are now memoirs of the same diaries of participants in the assault on the brest fortress from the forty-fifth infantry division of the wehrmacht, the germans themselves, or austrians, well, yes, there were a lot of austrians, they write directly, but there were executions, we were read an order on the treatment of commissars a few days before the start of the war, without the right
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to take notes, that is, write it down, understand by ear, that is, we were already thinking about it, and god forbid something goes wrong. the order was not signed, they read everything, remembered it, you understand, that’s why there were very, very falsification attempts, several years ago foreign media almost buried the last defender of the brest fortress, and in israel, by the way, you tried in this confusion to figure it out, at that moment, yes , pyotr kotelnikov remained alive, he is the youngest, still in russia, who is 100 years old, the defenders of those like petya kotelnik, although he fought with a weapon in his hands as a twelve-year-old boy, are no longer there, unfortunately , there are children who survived the war, who met the war at a young age, but i must say that boris efimovich feerstein, who died in israel, is also a defender, but a defender of the fifth fort. another question is that sergei sergeevich smirnov,
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the museum staff of those years, yes, uh, thought defenders. the fortresses of the defenders of the fortress core of these four islands, and those who fought in the forts of the brest fortress, they were considered participants in the battles in the brest area, and defenders of brest, that’s why, on the one hand, yes, he was a participant in the battles, a hero, he ended up into captivity, went through all the horrors of captivity, like the jews, there are very tragic stories there, this is a separate topic of conversation, but in the very core of the fortress he did not fight then in the forty-first year, therefore part of the truth, as always, yes, part is a little exaggerated, but well, it is believed that the last defender of the brest fortress, even major gavrilov was officially recognized, who took the last battle on july 23 , 1941, that is, a month after the start of the war, was captured, then much later after the war he became a hero of the soviet
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union, and was buried in brest, yes from krasnodar, yes, but is it true that even... in august, before hitler and musalini arrived at the fortress, the ruins were still being shot at. gavrilov, pyotr mikhailovich, we always say that this is the last of the famous heroes of the brest fortress. there are german documents already written on july 24, 25 that on july 23, while clearing the ruins of the fortress, a german team was there.
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dan fortress von unruh wrote that when he arrived in brest at the end of july for his post, there was still shooting, and he fought with this shooting, so the cleansing was carried out back in august of the forty-first year, in early august before the arrival of hitler and mussolini , so this confirmation is probably still waiting in the german archives, and even more so this famous story with... the last defender, who in forty-two year in the spring he was captured, it became the basis for the story of boris vasilyev was not on the lists, i would like to literally tell you a little, briefly, why i, for example, think that most likely this fact took place, because sergei sergeevich smirnov
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about it wrote in his letter, the foreman of the eighty rifle regiment durasov, he was for the wounded patients, together with one of the jews, and there they chopped firewood for our prisoners, yes, he worked in brest and so on, such service work, and says how i've been there about once already april 1942, this jew was late, and then he told here... a story that when he was going to work, he was stopped by a german officer who got out of the car, will you come with me, that they arrived at the fortress, he said, he’s sitting there a russian who doesn’t give up and... persuade him or we ’ll shoot you, this famous story happened, yes, when he said that you’re crying, that i want to see your powerlessness, and the german officer said that this is a real
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hero, this everyone knows, this is written well in the story, but what next? sergey sergeevich smirnov, in the course of his research work, based on the characteristic features of this jew, yes, that he was a violinist in a restaurant, by the way, the building where the restaurant was was still preserved in brest on komsomolskaya street, he determined that... what is it was zalmonsky, that is, you see, durasov did not know the surname, it had already acquired its existence, specifics, and already in the course of the research work of writing the book brest fortress, but this is not enough, we have a unique brest in that the only archive of the bresse ghetto in europe has been preserved , the germans did not have time to destroy it in 1944, when a museum employee examined this archive, she found a card from zalmanstavsky, do you understand?
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is in great need, an active civic position is very good, but the symbiosis of an active historian, a specialist who has been involved in the preservation and historical memory in practice for more than 20 years, yes, and in such a symbolic place, you represent the first region in the council of the republic and will be a delegate of the supreme council, let 's digress a little, but what was this path from a researcher to the head of the brest fortress, this is not just a brez fortress, but a belarusian symbol of courage. well , to be honest, frankly speaking, i never set myself the task of being a director or some kind of political figure, i just did
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my job, probably the main secret is, and i always tell our youth, yes, that comes to the brest fortress, loves his job, if you don’t love your job, don’t do it, it’s impossible, you see, yet... touching on this issue, yes, we have a certain staff turnover, people they leave, but believe me, not the previous director, and grigory grigorevich bysyuk, whom i respect very much, not me, on purpose, yes, we don’t fire anyone there, they leave on their own, if suddenly, you know, there is a difference in their views, here in their head there is a difference with by what you say, it is impossible, impossible, so yes, i regret that people leave, but i think, well, the fortress itself often squeezed you out, because well, that’s not what it means. a place where you have to work, so, well, it so happened that yes, i loved history since childhood, went to the brest fortress, and gradually came here like this
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to work there, and worked, worked, and finally worked my way up, so yes, i just probably love my job, i like to give excursions, although now it’s not required by my position, on the one hand, but sometimes i take excursions, because in order to -first of all, don’t forget, the practice was simple. communicating with people, you also get great pleasure, that’s why i’m probably saying that take a playing coach, believe me, this is very important, especially since i remember my impression of how this story of yours about the fastidious fortress really had such an impact back then a very serious influence, it was completely different, not as usual, you know , probably also because, well, it’s not modest to say well about myself, but well, i honestly pass every excursion through my soul, and the main thing is that for me these defenders of the fortress, they are like family to our... team, therefore, when we talk about them on excursions, we worry about them, let them pass through our souls, i must say that one of the significant moments in the work of the memorial
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is that we continuity of generations has been preserved, yes, we are not in a mine, in the sense yes, that for us, physical health and age are not the main thing, experience is very important, so i, as a director, try, here is our older generation, yes, who taught me, for as long as possible, i say, while you work, work, because you are a living example history, the connection between generations, yes, and you educate our youth, who come by your example, with these incendiary relationships, who are not indifferent to work, this is very important, because this is very important, you know, such a person read important words, history can only educate with the truth , rewrite you don’t give the story, even for the sake of even more drama, well, you are the same person who wrapped up the script for uglynikov’s film...
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life itself came up with it, no one will come up with it, so these ones, yes, on the one hand it seems, well, it’s a good moment , gavrilov is spitting there, let’s say in hitler’s face, yes, well, well, this doesn’t happen in real life, as soon as you lie, they stop believing you in the rest, of course, but alexander alexandrovich, after all, hollywood is not shy about rewriting history, attributing victory to itself through film epics, and well, maybe sometimes we...
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lie or embellish ourselves, she wins in the end, however, she will still make her way, but they are now imagining this, which is now already during polls in poland, i watched, yes, he already says with whom, poland won with which allies, yes, the usa, england, france, poland, and against whom, germany and the soviet union, there is kheroshima, a recent example, already numerous, yes, that almost the ussr bombed, historical, published there in america, i read, you know, about gagarin it was written, the first soviet cosmonaut, that is, how subtly, you know, manipulation, the first soviet cosmonaut, that is, not just the first man in space, but the first soviet, and so on in everything, especially with regard to the great patriotic war, but people are also not stupid in the west, but here, when they are faced with this outright
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lie, they want... to find out, but what really happened, this is when they want to know, unfortunately, a significant number, excuse me, as they say people eat it up, but not for such slang very relevant to the program, but i remember a very specific example now, yes, when the wargaming company, when they were drawing the image of an astronaut, there was gagarin, all in a helmet, well , this well-known inscription of the ussr, yes, but suddenly it wasn’t there, it’s just not it turned out, because you seem to know the image. cosmonaut is the first, yes, but a small nuance, but so indicative, familiarity with belarusian enterprises and the outstanding results of their work, the difference between our equipment is that they have very great capabilities, this
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knitting. mechanical engineering, i have no doubt that in the special post-soviet space we will achieve our goals, watch the quality mark project on the belarus 24 tv channel, information is a weapon, propaganda is a weapon, they made a fuss about ours in order to create an information fund around the deployment of german troops, are marching
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into lithuania as occupiers, this will be... today we are saving europe from a big war with our competent independent policy, the project is objective, don’t miss new episodes on the belarus24 tv channel, well, look here
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i always thought that modern textbooks were soviet. school, school, exactly, yes, it was exemplary in terms of presenting information about the great patriotic war about the war in general, in our current belarusian textbooks there is enough information about the brez fortress, you probably evaluate this, and is its presentation adequate, this one the defense of the brest fortress as a whole, the great patriotic war, is it enough, you know, now they give more than that in the ninth grade textbooks, more information. the entire second world war, in in the ninth grade, more information about the defense of the brest fortress is given and names, some circumstances, the task of the school is to give basic
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knowledge, and the task of the second school is to take them on excursions, and to the same khatyn, the museum of the great patriotic war in minsk, or from the ninth grade he start, so the kindergarten needs these things in principle. and it was right, because no matter what happened in the late eighties, in the nineties, when they drugged us, well, then you see, all the same, this childish upbringing is now manifesting itself in us, therefore i believe that the state should
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allocate huge resources to educators so that they have higher salaries, because a lot depends on educators, you know, when a person becomes 13-14 years old, it takes a lot to convince him of something. but we need to learn it now, that’s why our ministry of culture has developed a system of communication with the ministry of education so that museum-pedagogical classes are held for younger schoolchildren, we have a wonderful excursion, hello museum, when the kids come, they are... overloaded information, but at least you understand, they will come, and then they will say, yes, i was in the brest fortress, i received something, you know, they threw a grain, and then rostock grows from there and a patriot of his country grows up, and about the ussr, i also want , you know, how to say, i
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thought for a long time, and so i assessed why films about the great patriotic war do not turn out, well, basically, i even watch a little of everything, turn it off, but because it is impossible to make a film. about the great patriotic war, well, without communist ideology, no matter how we get there treated, communists, anti-communist, well , when it just pulls out, you know, as if there was nothing, everything is falling apart, because no matter what we say, the komsomol members, the communists went forward, the idea was big, that’s what is sometimes missing in our times, that’s why having thrown this out, it’s like we ’re throwing out the baby with the bathwater, so if we’re talking about patriotic education, i’m interested in your personal opinion, on another issue, i would, in addition to preserving the memory of the great patriotic war, return lessons of the law of god, i heard that your brother paints icons, but this is how faith, in your
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opinion, can help preserve memory, historical memory, and well, war and faith are also inseparable, you know, if we’re talking about such theological issues, i read the book ... about the serbian saint about the future war, when he wrote before the second world war, many parameters predicted its future very correctly and what it will be is impossible without faith. to achieve victory in a holy cause, yes, it is temporarily possible, of course, success, because why does it seem that the godless soviet state has won germany, but because they still had bright feelings, patriotism, they really fought against evil, against the end of hell, so the war must be waged, of course, thank god, i didn’t fight, but with respect to any enemy, you know, without mocking .
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spiritual education of the military, this is a great stronghold for them now in our brez garrison, an interesting story, yes, in the 19th century a garrison orthodox church was built, then in the twenties and thirties, due to politics , the polish garrison was rebuilt into the church of st. casimir, just the day before a military club, in which, by the way, fommin said at a lecture before the screening of the film on june 21 that there will be no war, that’s it. message from the tas that these are all rumors, immediately after a few
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hours the war begins, and then - the dilapidated temple stood as an object of a memorial complex, yes, in the ninety- fourth year it was decided to hand it over to the believers, its restoration began, the rector of the temple, father igor, in general, put his life into its restoration, but inside the temple there were still traces of battles, so... a very strong contrast, external beauty, yes, in a pseudo-byzantine style, you go inside, traces of battles, marks, yes, this is very important not to lose, because the energy there is very powerful, crazy, it’s true, and i believe that a warrior without faith cannot be a real warrior , a defender of his fatherland, because i ’ll tell you more, also touching on the patriotic issue, but how can we raise a patriot, fight society? consumption, which now prevails all over the world, and over
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spiritual values, because, as the modern war in ukraine has shown, yes, an egoist is not will go to defend his country, because he only cares about himself, only a person is not selfish, he can give his life for something, but our task as a state is to help young people understand why they can give their lives, we do not call for yes they died or something, but he simply must understand that there is something... something more sacred than his life, this is his own country, it is very difficult to educate in modern society, well, this is our task, well, returning a little to the main issue, on the territory of the brest fortress, they are still excavations find the remains of the dead, and what new facts can you tell, indeed, when the last public question is that at the volyn fortification , according to them... the assumption should be that
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the remains of soldiers should be buried, our fifty-second separate specialized battalion , the ministry of defense, carried out excavations, found 10 remains that were reburied under the memorial slab, it is important to understand here, to know that when the memorial was torn off in 1971, there were the remains of 823 people, solemnly reburied, these are the ones that were reburied from the garrison cemetery, where they were until... they were solemnly preserved, that is
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, discovered, so this search work will continue until the last one is found, yes, no, the war is not over, in 2011, when they found karl’s funnel, this is a very clear illustration of the kind of work that was carried out here in our museum, and they found 58 remains in this crater, a crater made from a large-caliber and a six-hundred-millimeter mortar shell, karl, yeah. and but she was found from photographs that appeared in on the internet, how our prisoners dump the remains of the dead there, yes, if i’m not mistaken, 11 medallions were found, but... only two were read and one was identified from letters in partmon, one of these three people out of 58 identified was taglin, defender of the fortress, imagine that in the seventy -first year his name was symbolic according to documents, yes, according to the memoirs certified
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by the military registration and enlistment office, eyewitnesses of his death are listed on the slabs and memorials, 70 years after his death in 2011, his remains with a medallion were found , do you understand? this is very important moment, a connection between the times that the defenders of the fortress, we still find them, we snatch their names from oblivion. well, now the belarusian prosecutor general’s office is closely involved in the issues of the genocide of our people and is carrying out this colossal work, including finding out the truth of this historical truth. who now, in your opinion, can effectively resist attempts to rewrite history?
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well, what can i say, there are times, yes, when you have to go to the brest fortress, the teachers say, oh, again to this disgusting fortress, if the teacher says what the child will think, or the parent will tell him, again money needs to be spent on this brez fortress, it is very important that these people who tell
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children about the great patriotic war themselves empathize, they themselves love this topic and themselves, well , there is a word:
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you think, what the wwii, even in documents and public space, the great patriotic war is so shortened, it is impossible, there are things that cannot be either shortened or accelerated, because by this reduction of the wwii we disrespect the memory of the great patriotic war, i say to myself, sometimes
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you yourself make such mistakes, but it is very important to be faithful to the memory in small things, because... without this there will be only verbiage and we will not achieve anything, then an important understanding, as for lawmaking, yes, so that memorial places have a special status, because now one often has to deal with the understanding that the brest fortress is a tourist site, no, the brest fortress is first of all a memorial place, a memorial complex, so there should be some restrictions on many things questions.
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we need to spend money on this, invest in it, because then the losses from stopping the economy for ideological reasons will cost us all much more, and we return with you again to the topic of 2020, when we were tortured in this way, it turns out that we are somewhere here the belarusian dimness did not want to offend the same neighboring poland, did not touch on some issues of the thirty-ninth year, everything... it turned out that they were investing this serious money there in a pole’s card, there in other things, on the internet, on social networks, which were very successfully manipulated
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our good people, because i know, well , a lot of people who, you know, just seem to have replaced their brains, that is, not, well , nlp technologies, let’s be honest, they were used, if we don’t educate our generation, we won’t do it their upbringing, other people will come who will raise them the way they need. i am very sorry that i am forced to ask the last, traditionally semi-philosophical question, a lot of films have been made about the brisk fortress, what we need to learn from them, and what we need to learn, you know, i really love the writer, from him in the book, the area of ​​fallen fighters is like this...
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is this pride for their country, for what has been done, now thank god, we understand everything, then the next question is that people gave their lives, yes, repression, again, so i touched on the question in the film brezh fortress in the credits, according to gavrilov it says, but about repressions and how many experts on the brest fortress told us, here gavrilov was repressed, he was never repressed, he says, read in the credits, it says he was subjected to repressions, that this means what gavrilov, right? i learned from the army that he, with the mark of a prisoner, could not get a normal job, he worked as a watchman in
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krasnodar in some shack that he knocked down with his own hands, is this a place for a hero? we should not turn a blind eye to the negative moments in history, because when we embellish it, let’s see if we do it, young people will not believe this story, so we should talk about these relations towards former prisoners in the history of the fortress, but what is significant? those who survived were even treated unfairly of the soviet state, yes, in the first years, after the war, there was a küng, nikolai fedorovich, the same defender of the fortress, who was beaten there for several months in prison, because in buchenwald he was among the participants in the uprising in the camp, yes, and they tried to confess to him, that he is an sdm agent there and so on, and what do you think, they lived with a grudge against their country, no. until the last days of my life, but thanks to the fact that i came to the fortress a long time ago, i even corresponded with them, and they wrote
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all the time in letters about how we could arrange russia, belarus, that is, they were worried about the country, the quality of a patriot, because patriotism is not only in the biological feeling of love, no, patriotism must be conscious, we must understand and see the shortcomings and think about how we can improve the country, you know, life in country, and this is what the defenders of the fortress teach us all about. because in fact, you know, some historians say that the war was won by ten years, that is, education, culture, which we must invest in our people, but this, i’m not an economist, i i understand that economic programs are put in first place somewhere, but if we miss education and culture, then who will we grow up, but it’s impossible from childhood, so i want to finish with this, and i want to really be heard, we need to start from childhood. from kindergarten from kindergarten.
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as soon as you say belarusian milk abroad, people immediately begin to sing odes to it, and of course, this is pleasant, because we do a lot of things, among all this deliciousness, of course... the cheese product is worthy of compliments, and today we will find out how it is do. hello everyone, my name is hey and i'm from china. now i live in minsk and love to try different foods. i really like belarusian cheese, if possible, i would really like to visit some cheese production. hello, oh, hello, you've been waiting for me for a long time, yes, no, okay.

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