for this motor rally of polochani and novopolotsk and shumilina, dubrovno, well, all the territorial bodies of internal affairs that, let’s say, along the route will join, i think that this will become a bright event. patriotic motor rallies of the vitebsk police are already a tradition; each time the column grows with new participants. they genetically passed on to us the desire for love and creation. the following, especially for us, is a digitized newsreel of the july events. despite what you've been through. available in the public

domain right now. tv news agency is. in the public domain. we have no secrets from our people. all of belarus became a complete hell for the occupiers. 213 partisan brigades, 258 detachments, it was a real front, only without a front line. on july 3, 1944, at dawn, tank guards burst into minsk. from a suicide note.

with warm gratitude, we once again honor the heroic liberators of the belarusian land, the soviet land, former front-line soldiers, underground partisans, front-line soldiers, 35th summer from the day of conscription.

on leninsky prospekt in minsk. participants legendary operation bagration. in june, forty -something, few knew that the name of the russian commander was coded for the operation to liberate belarus from the nazi invaders. bagration is the happiness of liberation. the sigh of the people, who were destined for the fate of slaves by fascism. holy, and as long as

the belarusian people are alive, they will suffer like holy saints, day 3 days, from year to year. training in the country, this is an initiative of the ministry of defense, they explained that the planned change will primarily affect foreigners who are already studying or working on the territory of estonia. it is proposed to conclude voluntary service agreements with them, this will make it possible to attract citizens of foreign states

who already have certain skills in this area, including as instructors, to the state defense of the republic. hundreds of tourists are being evacuated from hotels in greece due to raging forest fires... the rapid spread of fire is facilitated by prolonged heat and strong winds, according to representatives of the fire service, in the last 24 hours alone, 52 fires have broken out throughout greece fires, 44 of them were extinguished, while a storm warning has been announced for today in greece, predicting that the country will be hit by powerful thunderstorms and hail. there are also thunderstorms in belarus today and up to +32. it will rain almost all over the country, in some areas heavily, hail is possible in the east, strong gusty winds, tomorrow the weather pattern will not change, the weekend will be dry and hot, thunderstorms only in places. more information from my colleagues at 15 o'clock, i say goodbye to you at this point,

all the best, 33 happy summers, my love the holiday brings friends together again. on july 15 , the international arts festival slavic bazaar will be held in vitebsk for the thirty-third time with popular songs, fiery dances, a bright show and the smiles of thousands of spectators, welcome to the infinity of art, look for details on the website in the official communities of the festival, a real talk show, today we will talk about a not entirely festive topic, we will discuss our history, various historical periods and our attitude towards them. in the studio, as always, there are respected, competent experts, and you, our dear viewers, can become participants in the program, there is

a qr code at the bottom of the screen, point your smartphone screen at it and join our conversation on youtube broadcast, well, in the right corner is a link to our telegram channel, where you can find out more. and how we live, what we think behind the scenes of this program, we, kirill kazakov and alena syrova, let's get started, good evening, well, many times we talk about our history, especially modern history, we talk about the fact that it is not similar to the history of our neighbors , be that as it may, we are some even examples we present how we should probably treat the events that took place.

there, for example, taking these dates back to the beginning of the 20th century, or from the soviet union. belarus took the best from the soviet union, it seems to me, and no matter how they grinned 10 years ago, they said back that our historians, well, they say, the red banner, our coat of arms, which goes specifically to the soviet coat of arms of the bssr, and tourists those who came here echo the historian and say, well, yes, there is a lot, a lot of soviet stuff, but at the same time it’s good soviet stuff, it seems to me that it’s very good soviet, latest.

our ancestors live on this land, at this geopolitical crossroads of the millennium, even before they began to be called belarusians, these were our ancestors, they lived here for millennia on this land, of course, the hardest, the hardest geopolitical node that is belarus, but themselves , if we think about it and are imbued with respect for our ancestors, they not only survived on this land, the long-suffering belarusian land, but defended their right to live on it as we see fit, this one the real sovereignty that he is talking about...

there, this country did not replace me, let me put it this way, to mock and write the belarusian language and write

my dissertation and the basic principles of my writing in my native language, saprauda shmat robits tsa and we have an institution of knowledge, name yakub kolas, as a timid shmat pratz, vos navat vos mova, yes mova yana does not belong to any number of people at his side, in our land there are two pavins, and we are pavits and pavazhats... the choice of our citizenship, we size robim for the papularizatsy of our language, that is, the skin year the truth is the belarusian record, which we ask all those who are interested in, let’s say, from our center, from the academy of sciences, write a record on youtube broadcasts, let’s say, an online record is possible, you can write on the radio yo, on tv, ale belarusian language - geta no adziny instituts movaznaўstva, gata z pgladzіtse, і roznya satsialnaya advertising, rozny, what іdze, let’s say, the scale of the measures is good, we issue books,

publications, we all say it right, communication is our newspaper ublikanskaya, yana goes to the belarusian language, journalists are practicing dachshund, not forbidden to anyone, let’s say, get out, piss, get along with, let’s say, your own native language and its razmaulyatsya, papularlizavat, shmat robitssa, it’s clear that the language is geta adzin and dentifikataraў of our citizenship, that... that we are belarusians this saprady adzin s we will say such markers of the nation and here the great jumper will say our president on this point: the first thing is that two of mine - this is our wealth, russian language - this is our intellect, whatever you want.

here’s grigory azaryonok, he denies everything belarusian, he’s only soviet, here’s him say that there was prince vitov, he will spit on you. this is rubbish, these people who talk like that, they don’t know anything, they haven’t read anything, they haven’t read maxim tank, you are lucky, freedom and friendship, vyashchu, you are the bright sunshine of the earth , you are a living sir krynitsa, krystal russian language, this is written by maxim tank, i don’t know this information, i’m going to let you go to the historical question.

flows around, oh, yes, sir, master, white man and so on, they are lackeys of the west, that’s all, the only thing they want, around which they build the historical, the war with the muscovites, that's all, they have nothing else, 300 years of war with moscow, and it all adds up, we see what this has led our neighbors to, it all adds up to real life, political cataclysms and disasters, we must resist, therefore

every historical character, you can find documents about him, facts, you can find everything you need. kolas , great-father’s pisa, new land, here’s everything ours bathed, great-father’s pisa, small, they hung on dry asina, but navat asina, adsyaba adryne , and the most interesting thing, few people talk about that both kolas and kupalo were communists, it’s just that few people talk about it, and the best part is that i can’t. agree with gregory that history as a science does not exist; by the way, it exists in our country; the examples that gregory gave are examples of the complete politicization of historical science, something that exists in the west, when, for the sake of political reasons, then entire periods are crossed out for interests, they are kept silent, their history is crossed out, we don’t have that, i’ll emphasize again, we are guided by this principle of objectivity, we are against distortion

falsification of historical facts, but we clearly understand that any fact, events, activities of a particular person are different. by the way, he also made an important contribution to the creation of a sovereign belarusian state, our last conversation with you in an interview, when we said that lenin and stalin are two people, you can treat them differently, but as leaders of the soviet state, they did for the belarusian republics are the maximum of what was, you can say in different ways, one created, the second reunited two parts, well

by the way, if we talk about stalin, i still said that we should thank stalin more than lenin, i’ll tell you this as a person, here already, as they say. it’s easy to just give it away or just keep quiet about some historical moments, we will do it, the same period of the grand duchy of lithuania came out, the lithuanians still do not have the four-volume encyclopedia that we have, where everything is listed.

including through the mass audience and some historical paintings, well, they should capture the wide ones, cover the wide ones periods we came out with a wonderful picture dedicated to the events of the thirty-ninth year

on the other side, yes, this is class, this is in a certain sense a breakthrough, something about which we not only remained silent for many years, but also right away on a small screen, you’re probably already a little tired of these questions, but together with that when...

concepts, they have soviet history, it went into films, and it’s very fashionable, now they’re filming about the seventies, about the sixties, about the eighties, and at the same time they’re filming about

catherine, about peter i, about some... that noble stories, maybe they somehow synthesize these things, we can do this, naturally, we can, and i think this is necessary, with us today, people of science, i think, will make a proposal, we will also fine-tune this strategy .

will be well supported by the ministry of culture, but don’t you think that we don’t have finances, it’s not about finances, it’s about content, we have good opportunities, and i ’ll repeat it again, and people here even in the studio, they support it, so i don’t see any problems here, the main thing is to outline some tasks for them to solve the question, can we also ask if it’s a feature film, it’s out there somewhere, it’s a more expensive story, right? our school is not the same, well, let’s face it, like that of russia and ukraine, here is the school of animation, belarusian, legendary, brilliant.

a film about our teachers in order to popularize this profession, so everything is moving here, maybe not at such a fast pace, russia, of course, must be followed, there are many studios there, there are many conditions there and so on, but we are not standing still either, we have about 28 different films in production, and documentary and fiction, so the studio moves and lives, look, it means that history is not a science, well, i’m like a professional historian. i don’t entirely agree with this, but still history needs to be sold competently, i agree that history, especially historical hoaxes, in many countries a historical hoax, it is romanticized, glorified and presented, in fact, as some kind of success there almost since the times of ancient greece, how to sell this history correctly, how to sell belarusian history correctly culture, so that it, well, not just buys it, so that they want to buy it, here

, by and large, this question is... complex, because we are talking about marketing in the field of culture, here it must be said that many cultural institutions have already started build long-term relationships with your potential visitors, that is , remember the period when museums discovered , for example, social networks, how they began to publish educational content, that is, not just conventionally how it is to feed the audience with myths, all myths are about black people we know panna, that’s right, as it were, and then , well, nesvizh sells beautifully. i understand, but from the point of view of the historicity of these events, this raises the question, as if from the point of view of even a hoax, as i say, this is a beautiful hoax, but that’s why museums still strive to move away from mystification, and other institutions culture, therefore , various cultural and educational programs, quizzes, etc. are being developed, that is, in this case, culture can be sold in such a way as to meet the needs -

potential consumer of these services, and what does the consumer want ? i really like it, these are the summer musical and tourist evenings in minsk, the festival of national cultures in grodno, yes, if we talk directly deeply, then even... the regions of belarus have begun to build their own regional brands, for example, the museum squirrels in a large birch bark or a cherry festival in the deep, santa claus in belozhskaya pushcha - it’s the same thing, it’s probably the most popular brand, yes, that is, by and large , the main thing is to analyze the market and find those working ideas that will be in demand, here’s another one the main point is that selling it is not bad, of course, you need to earn money, but the main thing is not to lose your soul, that’s the spiritual component in which i will say,

it is very important that... we citizens of the republic of belarus knew our history, were proud of our history and culture, when we promote, when you are proud of your history and culture, you are interested in telling about it, conveying this information to the widest possible circle. persons when this will be plus the spiritual component, as i said, in addition to what my respected colleague said, this product will be in demand, because in the modern world there are very few really such real, not deceitful, not pretentious superficial things of some kind - then things, but what is done with the soul, this is sometimes a grisha attraction, that’s really a historical attraction or a historical monument, the main thing you know is when they gave us the attraction, when in the late eighties people came to the magazine ogonyok, korotich and so on, they said you have a myth here. everything you have here is soviet propaganda, now we will tell you the truth. ozoya kosmodimyanskaya was a pyromaniac, alexander matrosov rushed into the embrasure drunk, which means that all the partisans are to blame for burning down khatyn, this is all the truth about stalin, repressions, horror, fear, blood, for 5 years the people

were driven so crazy that then no one came out to defend a huge country for which they paid 27 million, these are historical attractions, this was all done under a pretext, we will now tell you the truth. these were myths and so on, so you need to pay attention to these things, there are historical narratives, all the people, maybe i said it harshly, but you can’t drag all the people into the archives, all the people won’t read the books, 50 volumes, so people need a clear set, so to speak, this is what the soviet man had, the chapaevs, the elusive avengers, the partisans, the great patriotic war, the red heroes and so on, people from school should have a basic set and basic, basic answers to all questions, you can call it propaganda, a myth. no, grisha, look, i agree with you, but look, it seems to me that we should not limit ourselves to 1917, because the whole story that was, look, in the forty -third year, stalin returned the shoulder straps to the army, why telling that the history of soviet, russian victories, it is long and

long, because we too, when we say that the thirty-ninth year is a film about nevsky, the thirty-ninth year, this is even before, so that we don’t forget this, the same worldly castle and nesvere castle, because the head touched all of this. also appropriated it to themselves without reading them, the most important thing, i will even give you, as they say, from a personal example, when one lady who, in general, yara spoke out there in 1920 against the current government, she

said that there i was quoting what they were discussing there from the ear of corn under your sickle, yes, and i asked her, and you read it, and she said, no, after a while i condemn,

we try to get along with the little bastards, with dzyatsіnstvo and reading, there in the 8th hour we have a great festival of many books, this and in the museum of yakub kolas mikhasev jumps, and in the town of francis skaryna, kali national and libraries, and various academic centers, that is , not only but in all of belarus this is all true, and since there are thousands of literatures that need to be learned, there is a need to learn that literature is skin... creation - this master's creation, and learn from it history is only possible at the next level, that is, there is some details about the life of the gistarychnaga, kali nu geta sapraudny pesmennik, mentality, kali mova yashche kalistsi, mov,

mentality, all geta, well this taxama is talenavity pesmennik, like geta is all good and vykaristovaya in their creations, as thousands of the same karatkevich, that’s what they said. the private kalas fell with your syarp, then geta ramantychnaya, karatkevich ramantyk, he’s restraining his history, like a ramantyk, he’s not reporting what happened,

we’re not taking the initiative into our own hands, that’s somehow,

maybe a year ago, somehow, again same, on the site essentially, the deputy minister education said that soon there should appear a list or, as kirillo calls it, a pantheon of heroes of france , there is such a concept: a pantheon of national heroes, when there is a certain hero who can be perceived differently by historians, but for france he is important, in in this case, they can name a street in his honor, in honor... because stalingrad is a battle that became a great turning point, and we are ashamed of it, so maybe we need such a pantheon, we certainly need it, and we have it by and large, it just needs to be popularized and brought to our population en masse through the education system, that means starting from kindergarten, i am deeply convinced of this, school then through the media. honor, praise, that there are programs like yours, that we have

the opportunity to communicate, talk about this topic, look at the streets of our cities, they are also named after outstanding figures of our people and our state, these names are present, but i still since they're trying again, excuse me, i'll interrupt you, they're trying work now so that pandora's box is not opened, when they start to change no, why rename, new streets are being built, certain settlements are expanding there, you can always find, which means a place for a worthy person from different historical eras and periods, to... name him honor the street, i mean that you just need to approach your historical past calmly, thoughtfully, not rush from one extreme to another, that means once upon a time in the soviet period, and there they tried to cross out what was connected with tsarist russia, there that means some older things, something that didn’t fit, didn’t fit into the ideology, on the other hand, then the pendulum swung in the opposite direction, we started indiscriminate denigration of the soviet union, a healthy compromise, a balanced objective approach, and i’ll emphasize again, we have our own. the national domestic concept of national history, developed by our

historians, who represent our belarusian view of the historical past. we have not crossed out more than one historical period. we are also looking at the polovsk principality, the principality of turov, the old russian state, the grand duchy of lithuania, russian, zhemoit, russian empire, as the historical forms of statehood of our people, these are multi-ethnic associations, their history belongs to all the peoples they were part of, but in these state impoverishments our ancestors played a very, very large role , just to say, here we are, for example. we can also have a conversation with the poles, who were surprised that i was leaving on a business trip, yes, i showed him the documents with my address communist television, they say, well , everything is communist there, i say, no, there is, i say, prushinsky street, there is lev sapieha, there is ifrosine polovskaya, they were very surprised, that’s right, it’s like all this is being introduced here, so, here’s svetlana nikolaevna, novogrudok, let’s take one period right away, 1232, this is the capital of the grand duchy of lithuania, mindovk, no mindas, mindovk, novogrudok, that’s all,

this is one period to which our enemies seemed to be servile until twentieth years, because they believed that , strictly speaking, this is what it is, but... at the same time , novogrudok suffered during the great patriotic war, there are heroes who defended and liberated it, so the question arises, how is this city, well, maybe for us in minsk it’s not clear, maybe it ’s clearer to you, like this city in western belarus, this is another place sacred to our enemies, as they say, it fits in with modern belarus, but you said it yourself, a new town, so of course the history of novogrudok is very significant. and significantly, and i now want to support vyacheslav viktorovich regarding the fact that yes, from kindergarten you need to teach the history of your native land, and not just history, because look, the parents of the 90s forgot what history is, so , probably

the saying that where you were born, you came in handy, you should know your place, your birth should know your native roots first of all, but novogrudok, of course, has a very rich history, it was often rewritten, by the lithuanians, by the poles, by the latvians they told themselves that and adam mitskevich, and mindolkh, as you said, mindolkh, yes, mindolgov, these are their ancestors, but no, it was here on the territory of novogrudok that it took place. history during the great patriotic war, it suffered very much, it was the first to accept the flow of nazi invaders and was defeated, and everyone remembers and knows about the novogrudok cauldron, it really is a great story, but we survived and today we are taking

our place, let’s say, an honorable place among many other cities, not only the grodzen region, but also of the entire republic of belarus. you just talked about this so interestingly, beautifully, figuratively, how when people love their city, you can feel it, yes, but if that’s the case, it’s clear that it’s bad to judge indiscriminately, but at the same time, i think that’s where you belong -it will be a shame that globally so few people talk about novogrudok and few even belarusians know it, they know it in two extremes, either as you say the novogrudok cauldron, or well, there is a third extreme,

learn everything from history, from the foundation, from 1044 to our times, look, you say, i’m listening right now about novogrudy, i wanted to ask you a question, why do russians find such a middle ground between romanticizing, for example, the sheremetyevs and trubetskoys and the romanovs, at the

same time they talk about the heroes of the second world war, and we when, for example, we begin to remember about the radivils, that’s how you say, mrs. kokhanka immediately has this... history, and at the same time, how can we find a story that the radivils, in principle, yes, well, oppressed, yes, something else, but there turbetskys, sheremetyevs with everything, with all their attitude towards russian history, after all, they were doing the same thing, vyacheslav viktorovich, won’t let us put it together, there are several approaches, one of them is a class approach, there is an idealistic approach, there is a class approach, there are different approaches, and so, that’s what they continue to follow, that they drop to on may 9, the russians, they are destroying the mausalee of vladimirovich lenin, so that... the time of celebrations there on may 9 always sounds the same, the people there won in spite of, you try to gather here today in defiance of the leader,

yes, try in defiance of the leader 10 to gather people, well, it’s impossible, there ’s a huge war here, as for these characters, i understand that this is ours, these people lived here with them, but then what’s the chain, who is this, these were tycoons, they considered themselves europeans, that means we are europeans, yeah, and that we are not in the european union now, and they wrote statutes, and we don’t have a democracy, but we have a dictatorship, but you can’t, you can’t deny everything, and moreover, it’s correct, and the head of state says that that it is important to be able to admit your own mistakes, are not afraid to look your history in the face, and chapter states indicated who they were, people who exploited their people mercilessly in the message in the twenty-second, in my opinion, with all this, gregory is right in terms of the fact that yes , indeed, it means there are enough scoundrels and other things, that means, but that’s it the people who lived on this land are also part of our people, which...

judgments, yes, we know that we had pesnyars, we know that we had klemuk, kovalyonok, what else do we know, we also know

deniska’s stories, and what else do we have, well, if we return to this topic , yet again i started to say that it’s highly debatable, okay, let’s maybe say something like that, that is, here we are again, well, let’s watch the same sensational tv series the thaw, it’s from that time, now you can’t shake a russian tv series, it’s in the seventies and eighties, maybe we should go there, you know? we must naturally draw a conclusion from this whole story and take all the good things and, most importantly , we must constantly improve the best we can take, maybe the russians are following a good path, but i think we have we have enough of our own in the information space of russia, we still won’t jump out of there, we want to do something about it , in fact, i’ll tell the truth, well, maybe this is my personal fantasy, but i would like to see minsk, how mtz is created there, how it is created mas, dive in. in this very temporary period, these and this historical period, because you know, in fact, even about the beginning of the war, about june 22, 1941,

this is the day when komsomolskoe lake was supposed to open, this is exactly the day when graduates went there, these were stories that would probably sell well, we now understand that they don’t read books, maybe they don’t read them in such quantities, that’s right, but they watch films, so maybe we can play on this so that we, well fine. we argue, for example, in a class approach to those characters we like, do n’t like in history, we argue, we don’t argue, the most important thing is that we argue, this is our freedom, and to form some kind of attachment to the city, because to minsk - we don’t have any ideological or class prejudices there, yes, there is minsk, there are stories, this is how we opened the tram, this is how we built the metro, the metro took 40 years, well, maybe i’m doing something, maybe i want something too big.

and the time has probably come to film about it, but look at what the strength, the strength of spirit of our people is, we’re talking about a hero city, a wonderful one, rightly so, they did what they did to give minsk the title of hero city, even if not right away, but look, our population did not initially say that minsk must be given the title of hero, then we will do something here, to restore when the city was almost completely destroyed, consulted with people, decided to restore minsk in the

same place where it was, this is the greatest labor feat, people did not expect awards when there were them...

maxim tank wrote in his diaries: i i went and voted for lukashenka, because the rest are some kind of crazy people, it wasn’t published here, it was published there once , everything was in magazines there, they don’t even know about it here. shamyakin until 2003, before his death, he wrote the sabbath of former police officers, about these security officers and so on further, about their congress, the yans gathered at the war and so on. no one here knows this, so that, as we are now saying, there is more here, there is more here even about the younger generation, at least to hand over at least one small edition.

speaking about the frunze, we all know this story, but we would like to compile it, we would , in fact, collect this story so that no one drags it anywhere, otherwise it turns out that someone is uncomfortable and does not want to study it one historical period, someone is uncomfortable talking about another historical period, someone likes someone, someone doesn’t like someone, but there is , as it were, an objective reality, and there is our objective main interest, this is a sovereign independent belarus, in which... there

are no lists was listed, so is sotnikovo, you understand, that is, there must be a balance here , we are talking about this, because there is a feeling, well, i’ll tell you straight, that they are trying to push us to some extreme, that’s how they are trying to push us into the fire of a hot war, so they are trying to push us to some extreme renunciation of either one or the other, so that we, well, relatively speaking, have pretytsky drawn on a t-shirt or prince vitovt drawn on a t-shirt? so that we don’t get the feeling that: