control and forecasting of inflation, others, to monitor compliance with price legislation. the state will receive an effective operational tool for monitoring the objective establishment of selling prices for goods sold in retail chains in belarus. the platform operator for the developers will be a subsidiary of the development bank, a servicing and reengineering agency. even before launching a system for analyzing and controlling prices , some adjustments to the legislative framework are necessary, as well as unification. significant amount of information systems, various government agencies into a single database. today marks the 171st anniversary of the fire service of belarus; president alexander lukashenko congratulated the employees and veterans of the ministry of emergency situations on their professional holiday. about 800 calls are received on lines 101 and 112 every day. in half the cases these are combat missions. just 20 years ago, over a thousand people died in fire. today the figure has been reduced by more than half. decreased six times.

deaths in fires are the result of a warning and prevention system. today, the fire service of belarus is not only highly qualified specialists, it is also modern equipment that helps to provide assistance at any time on land, in water and from the air. on july 27 , belarusian rescuers will clearly demonstrate all their capabilities at a festival in honor of fire service day, which will be held in the capital’s gorky park. the program includes a festive concert, swimming parade, and water sports. exhibition of rare fire fighting equipment, children's interactive areas. at the stadium park there will be a football match between the teams of the ministry of emergency situations of belarus and russia. school markets have opened in minsk department stores. a wide range of products for children and teenagers is presented. for comfortable preparation for the new school year, department stores have opened additional shopping malls and fitting rooms. on weekends in august , large-scale school fairs are planned in regional centers, where it will be possible. purchase clothes,

shoes and stationery. the belarusian women's field hockey team made a victorious start in the international cup tournament friendship. in addition to the men's and women's national teams of belarus and russia, junior teams are also competing for the main trophy. our women's team is the current winner. she has already emerged victorious twice, and today she met with the russian national team. let us remind you that in the last draw the belarusians lost to the russians in the group stage, but were able to take revenge in the final. win the coveted title, the winner of the trophy will be determined on sunday. this is a socio-political talk show.

essence, alena syrovaya, kirill kazakov, we today we will talk, well, let’s put it this way, about the place in geopolitics that belarus has occupied lately, well, this is the last week, we are denied entry, we are allowed to leave, in fact, let’s talk about what is happening on our borders in diplomatic field. if you want to join our program, point your phone at the qr code that now appears at the bottom of the screen and write a message, we will voice it here on the site, but in order to be aware, the editorial team lives outside of this studio, then connect to another qr code, go to the telegram channel essentially. so let's begin. good evening. well, in general, we have already become accustomed to the fact that for quite a long period of time, the most alarming news comes from our southern borders, where fighting is currently taking place on the territory of ukraine.

and the inconvenience, why this is being done, i think that today we will try to discuss from different sides to understand, in order to still be aware of the context, but at the same time, anton, a question for you, well, last week we already voiced it as kirill, found out that lithuanians do not we are glad to belarusians and passenger vehicles with belarusian license plates, which means that latvians made this decision earlier, at the same time we...

are opening visa-free entry for all members of the european union, we are all monitoring resources and the queues at the borders continue.

last week, on the 16th, the latvians restricted the entry of passenger vehicles with belarusian registration; then 2 days later, the lithuanians did the same, although with some restrictions and relaxations there, until august 16th you can still somehow enter there, but for legal entities passenger vehicles with belarusian registration can no longer move across the territory to enter european countries.

an increase in the number of cars that enter us, or the propaganda that works inside there, well, is doing everything possible so that, strictly speaking, why should lithuanians, latvians, poles, estonia, which borders us especially, also ban entry, strictly speaking, yes, propaganda really works, of course, but the numbers, firstly, which we are discussing now, speak for themselves they say, and despite the fact that less than four days have passed since the introduction of a visa-free regime for another thirty-five states of the european region, we are already approaching the figure of 100 people who entered our territory already under the new visa-free regime, this not necessarily lithuanians, latvians and poles, that is, these are the far so -called foreign countries, relatively speaking, the first

was a german citizen, he crossed the border from the territory of lithuania, literally an hour and a half after the introduction of a visa-free regime for here these countries. well, probably yes, i probably need to say something else here, i want to note that after all, without visas, it was introduced, let’s say, for europeans, a little unexpectedly, there was no big announcement, the decision of the head of state was made and actually immediately implemented, that’s why one must understand that the flow will also change in the future, people who planned to visit the republic of belarus have naturally already issued visas in advance and so on, but in the future...

and in fact will not give the opportunity to come alen, well, they will create, they will not create, they have already, probably since the end of the twentieth year, created everything, created everything, we answer them, and it seems to me that he is quite worthy, andrei vecheslavich, let us clarify a little, what are the rules in general, that’s what

has changed for the europeans, that means how, who can come, who can’t come because of this very visa-free regime, but it seemed to me that alena’s question was also mentioned earlier. to show that we are open, because well, strictly speaking, we are accused of lowering the iron again, but on the other hand, sometimes a normal person there is a feeling that a tooth for a tooth, an eye for an eye, that is, in this regard, so, well , well, let's start with why, well , really, it was a proposal from the ministry of foreign affairs, which we sent to the government, and the government supported this proposal , as a result , the decision of the head of state appeared, which we are discussing here with you today, but i would not like... probably for these latest changes regarding the entry of foreigners to be presented as something

downright revolutionary and radical, this another step in line with the liberalization of the visa policy of the republic of belarus, if you allow me to return a little to the background, back in the seventeenth year, a decree of the president of the republic of belarus was issued, in accordance with which we began to accept foreigners through the airport, uh, who do not pose a threat to. .. since our country is still open so that foreigners can see for themselves what belarusians are like,

that they, that they are really peaceful people, and not some kind of warlike horde, and find your own evidence here by coming to us in belarus, as for the possibilities for entry, the last decision is that a foreigner from the list of these 35 countries can enter us an unlimited number of times for up to 30 days, the number of days is limited to a total stay during the calendar year of 90 days, well, 3 months is normal, that is, at least for the period for which this decision was made, that is, until the end of the year, well, approximately, unfortunately, here already not that...

and so on, at the same time, yes, we are opening, we are opening, our social networks, yes, that we will go out to the center of minsk, we see in recent days, this is the queue to sign up in a notebook at the italian visa center to receive visas, what is this anyway , i just want to immediately clarify that there is no question that belarusians should not travel there, yes, here are these shots, please, belarusians should not travel abroad there.

it is said, but most people in europe, they also understand this, this is declared,

in principle, living in small european cities, having the opportunity to travel inside this small state entity, they don’t go anywhere, they are actually accustomed to the fact that belarus is when you cross a red sign, and you end up here with people in chenilles, exclusively soviet cars, cars in general there are practically none and they are against it,

a notebook is such a blasphemy, a mockery of our citizens, this must be admitted right away, moreover, we must say that there are no notebooks, there is some kind of electronic record, but for this you won’t be able to get an electronic registration either, because in order for someone to register you for an electronic registration at other embassies of other eu countries, you also have to pay some guy to register you through bots using your notebook number.

we are talking about the european union, the european union adheres to the same concept, everyone, everyone, even our citizens, they don’t need us, yes, not as tourists, not as buyers of used cars, even if they give visas, look, they expire they reduced it, they no longer give it for 3 years, they give it for a year, not for a year, but for a month,

for the duration of the request, for the duration of the request, you know, but in order to get a tourist visa, how much do you have to pay? some pay 400 euros just to get a tourist visa and enter europe under a tourist visa, look, this is actually bialystok, i just recently watched a video from the cavalry market from bialystok, which means everything is closed there and the locals say that belarusians have left and business is dying here, that is, we are essentially saying that when we were told that we are the backyard of europe, belarus is the backyard of europe, it turned out that bialystok and vilnius are beyond the backyards of europe, well, listen, something always came to bialystok.

such, but many invested money in shopping centers in the expectation that belarusians would continue to travel, that’s it, their expectations were not met, investments went to zero, that’s it, belarusians will not continue to save the polish economy, andrei petrovich, well, let’s add a little , so to speak, well, first of all, i would like to say that for a long time i think that people do not perceive belarus in the overcoat with the balalaika, already andrei petrovich, people they come from the cis countries, they come.

ironclad for everything, and today who preaches the narratives of the cold war, this very west, which writes down our citizens in a notebook, whom it builds kilometer-long queues of our citizens, so as not to, but at the same time they write interestingly, it’s good that the belarusians seem to have allowed without visas, because in this way they will meet with civilized people coming from abroad, look, all these notebooks, they, well, i understand why they act, they act like this: people should become embittered.

the main goal is to make the population of both russia and belarus realize that all the harmfulness comes directly from your government, you need to remove the government, then you will be given access to the european union. the most important thing is that many believe in this, but there will be no admission to the european union and this wonderful life, it will be the same as now in ukraine. it seems to me that if the minds there were guided by such, such reasoning, then our mentality is very bad; they know that ours probably works from the opposite, because these things, this kind of thing can be allowed up to a certain period, then the spring will uncompress in the other direction.

well, are the latvians here all of a sudden or not so much? well , my answer seems to be simple, they were the first to make a museum of nazism in riga, so how

is everything logical here, their behavior now is like this, but it wasn’t the latvians who did it, it’s the elite and the government, who , look who’s there in this case, this business is managed, the point is that this visa-free, visa-free, yes, in fact it is this option. diplomatic border or, as it were, visa aikido, yes, that is, we use their strength against them, it is impossible to call the opening of the border an unfriendly or aggressive step, but without visas, don’t call it that bad, that is, in fact, we have disarmed them in this regard, that’s why they again take out all these pictures with these convicted terrorists and so on, even if he is a german citizen and all that stuff. the point is that all these citizens of the european union will come here, look, see, i i remember once working with a polish delegation, it seemed like they lived

next door, we were still on normal terms, it was a long time ago, but nevertheless, i noticed that these were high-ranking poles in the military sphere, that is, acquaintances with some people who have not seen each other and so on, that is, they arrived and i keep looking, they look who is standing there in line, it’s not belarusian officials standing there, ordinary ordinary citizens, but, that is, all these sanctions westerners, they are not against the

belarusian authorities,

and in fact, they discredit the entire european union, so they won’t be able to fly from there, or is this really some kind of consolidated position, let us make sure that no one goes to belarus, that ’s exactly the main idea is that this is a consolidated position, in this case , neither the poles, nor the lithuanians, nor the latvians ever worried about, as they say, the face of the european union in this regard, they all the time... harassed, taxed everyone crossing the borders, because in fact there were always queues, always, never it so happened that he arrived and crossed, never, all the time there was a queue, all the time i was stuck on what, first, the standard, they have 10 cars per hour, everything else needs to be paid extra, neither a pole, nor a lithuanian, nor any latai will do this, only belarusians could do more what are the norms, so that

it’s faster, more convenient...

to travel, to see europe, and thereby to be imbued with these european values, but starting from the twentieth-twenty-first year, this is not connected there by the events in belarus in the twentieth year, the post-covid period, they are changing dramatically all policies towards to the eastern direction, including refugees and migrants there, this policy is connected with the fact that at some stage all these corporate political elites realized that they were facing a severe... financial and economic crisis, they can cope with this crisis only if they begin to harshly suppress any migration flows, flows of refugees, including in the form of some pseudo-tourists who then stay there or pseudo students who also then stay there, why is unemployment growing, socialist protests, yes the mood is growing, they understand that

they cannot cope with... these moods, they need to cut off this entire flow , begin to strictly control the internal socio-political structure, how, with the arrival of radical right-wing forces and the conditional spread of fascism, migrants come to them more or less no, there are no more or less any in italy , come to italy, look at how they treat the famous island of lampedusa, which actually belongs to migrants. this is understandable, but what about continental they are part of italy, believe me, until about the twentieth year they simply tolerated the italians, now they don’t tolerate it, they said, we understand that we need nationalist dash nazi parties that would destroy, well, in parentheses, they say so softly for now, all these migrants and refugees, they vote for this, look at what parties and what leaders are now coming to power,

the question. political, look, they have already calculated that, for example, a belarusian without a visa to shanghai, with all the fees at the airport , has to fly for about 10 hours in order to... which is 130 km away, taking into account the border, about 30 hours, three times more, that’s the question, is this a united europe that we need so badly, or, having entered the sco on the threshold of brix, we can say that we have got a visa-free asia , well, really, we don’t need a visa to china, maybe we should just somehow start convincing people that turn your head there and there is much more interesting and wider, you know, i think... like poland, followed by the baltic countries, they are playing out the agenda that it is beneficial for them, they play the role of an outpost between, let’s say, next to belarus, including our ally russia, the vector that

we have chosen, and just recently entered the shanghai cooperation organization, opens up, of course, enormous prospects for our country. knock, open all the doors that are possible, the fact that we have entered the highway, well, you know, the prospects here are huge, this is a market, and people just don’t understand well what it is, why did i start the question with what is in shanghai for 10 hours, can we get vilnius in 30,

even though the difference in mileage here is very huge, just so that people understand that we can get there faster, because for the majority of our inhabitants the sco is something very amorphous and incomprehensible, let me add literally. what is the meaning of this quote from the head of state, pay attention, the president said this phrase not 2 years ago and not 3 years ago, yes, right now, why? yes, today, why, because in europe itself, there are those political corporate forces that understand that without belarus, without russia can’t move further, that’s why the orban effect has appeared...

money actually makes decisions, azerbaijan, because we don’t have a direct line

to europe, that is, they can fly in like that, here’s a frenchman, that’s essentially it, we’ll continue to talk about how belarus is now, well, let’s say, not very mirror- like in its opposition to europe on the ban on driving cars without a visa, in fact, we started talking about... shanghai. and the question is this: if we go east, what are our plans, for example, to ease the visa requirements? legislation with the countries of the sho, with the countries of asia. i understand that mija is working to ensure that our passport, relatively speaking, is one of the strongest, so that we can travel around the world without visas, but my colleagues say that this is not the best in europe and in general, there is a procedure for obtaining visas all over the world, well, indeed, china is visa-free, then what can await us? well , it really sounded, probably some kind of justified resentment, that we find ourselves almost locked in with respect to the european borders, but at the same time, galina probably correctly expressed the idea

that any conflicts do end, and we are sure that these temporary situations will eventually open up, we would like that a little sooner rather than later, the borders with europe, but for today, today it is valid. one of the key tasks of the consular service in the ministry of foreign affairs is to find countries to find understanding regarding the possibility of concluding visa-free agreements. will allow everyone to do this, but in order to ensure

that opportunities for travel are preserved, of course, we are actively working on this, and, for example, from the last few years of agreements, we have agreements with the same arab emirates, more than a visa-free, more than a tourist destination, there is a visa-free agreement with albania, well, the option is probably relative, given the lack of direct direct and yes, but europe, we signed.

they won’t go to moscow, because

security in this direction is, naturally, ensured in close cooperation with the competent authorities of the russian federation, but in addition, we we inform these same foreigners upon entry that they do not have the opportunity to cross the border into the russian federation, but, by the way, a feature of this last decision of the head of state was also the fact that previously there was a visa-free regime, which we visited here. .. poland, latvia and lithuania, it was necessary to return again by ground transport, yes, today this can be done and after flying through the airport, please come by train, we will advertise belavia, buy belavia tickets, well, we are in they don’t fly to europe, but they can fly to other countries, let’s get back to coffee in vilnius and those who drink it now, in general, is there any connection, andrey petrovich? latvia is under the guise, well

, we really didn’t hear much about it, more and more attention is paid to lithuania and poland, and meanwhile they also have an airplane, certain events are happening here, i think you will inform us in a little more detail whether this is related to the closure for travel for ordinary ordinary citizens of belarus with those. russian federation, republic of belarus, namely from the western countries, from the old west,

which by and large, well, in many cases, doesn’t give a damn what’s going on in this ukraine, that is, a ukraine-centric world . then this is where we live today, since these are our closest neighbors, these are our fraternal people, this is the russian federation, which, that is, this is our region, that is , by and large, this is our religion, this is our almost common similar language, our single culture, everything else, the baltic countries, together with poland, they do their job clearly, and let’s say clearly and correctly that there really is a relationship, of course there is a relationship, because everything...

it’s this russian world that is approaching, and the russian world, you know, we are not part of the russian world, we are russian world, we are belarusians, russian ukrainians, we are

the russian world, this is a civilizational approach, this is what trump is talking about today, who is taking clear leaps and bounds to his power today, right? with his shot ear, which will bring him glory and, probably, for the next 12 years of rule of these same republicans all over the world, there will be a completely different approach, issues related to europe, old, new europe, will be resolved precisely on a geopolitical and geostrategic plan, our overhang over the suwałki corridor is exactly where the upcoming future conflict will be, this is possible, can i single out one phrase from your speech that i would just like to chew on a little, the absence. civilians on the border - it’s dangerous, well, it seems so to me, and you’re talking approximately, maybe be about this, it turns out that the absence of civilians in their cars in the baltic direction indicates that, in principle , some kind of mobilization actions can be carried out there, well, this is one of the elements, that is, you understand that

everything is still considered in a complex , and intelligence is considering the complex, look at the ukrainian content on the internet, they are all prohibited from doing anything to civilians...

well, this was no longer necessary, but she understands that from a military point of view this is a very serious test of the readiness of the forces special operations that carried out marches, completed the tasks that were assigned to them... and this is a test and practical verification of the decisions made by commanders, commanders, headquarters, it was highly

appreciated by the head of state, as for visa-free, yes visa-free is good, but i would like to draw attention to one aspect, that not all people come from abroad with good intentions and thoughts, that is, we must understand that it is those people who will come who will look for the very speck in their eye then somewhere... then advertise it, well... it’s a little pro-border maybe less impact, because they crossed the border there, they let them through, that’s all, but all the other rural structures will, of course, have to look more actively, why? because we wouldn’t want bad rumors and uh thoughts to be spread in our country, of course, that’s what concerns the influx of citizens, that’s good, ordinary citizens will come, they’ll look at our life, they ’ll look at our country, they’ll look at how we live and, accordingly, i think, we will be conductors of those ideas that, yes, indeed our country is modern. european, and normal people live here, you know, you can’t put a scarf on every mouth, and

it’s probably not worth even trying to prove something to someone, it seems to me that we are already at an age when we can’t do this , everything is fine we know for ourselves that if, if we are talking about citizens who come here with some unfriendly purposes there, then i think that we have enough strength and means to, in general, identify this and prevent it. we have special services, lesh, look, no, i have a question, yes, we are talking to one, one on the other hand, we are talking about the fact that maybe we don’t need, as you say, to show for growth what we are for, but since soviet times such a theme as a showcase of some part of the world has been used, yes, the baltic states were a showcase of the soviet union, poland was a showcase of the soviet bloc, at the same time we can now. to say that poland for some time, well, about 10 years ago, was such a showcase of capitalism, as we said, we went to bialystok, again returning to this, we bought powder and

toilet paper, there is freedom, there you can show anything in the square, say who needs it, another question, suddenly sharply, well , my personal conviction is that bialystok and vilnius have become such a periphery, a periphery, so we, again, going back to the same soviet newspeak, can now claim to be a showcase of the same? union state, again , this eurasian unification, i slightly disagree with you, because the display is good, yes, we don’t show it to anyone, we don’t do some kind of pseudo-advertising, we’re already good, you know, that’s the point the main difference is when they come to us there from poland, well, from the countries of the european union, and they see that, you know, we say, go here, there are good shops, and here... don’t go here, because advertising doesn’t work, you know, with us there is no such thing, no matter where they come, they will always find both products and normal

service, so we are not a showcase, we are a natural, normal, developed country with sufficient well-being, yes, which can also share its well-being with poor citizens , and poland, that's right, i agree. oh remember uh, that’s what those who left for us from the baltic states and poland over the last 2 years say, they just ran away, yes, why did they run away, because the local special services began to simply press and bully them. they say: to us, our propaganda, yes, their western propaganda, openly says that the introduction of sanctions against belarus has led to the fact that you have no food, wild hunger, unemployment, and you have generally torn the economy to shreds, that’s it. they come here, everything is bursting with sausage,

cheese, dairy products, you know, this is it expectation, reality, we are talking about the fact that yes, we do it without visas, which means citizens from more western europe can come here and so on, and i don’t know whether i’m wrong or not, but it seems to me that he will react the fastest and has already responded .

people's diplomacy was invented, it solves all these problems that were established regarding belarus, people's diplomacy, all this is demolished very easily, why? because it’s better to see once than to hear 100 times, so people who come here without a visa are from here, fairy tales will not be lucky, they will just take their real impressions from here, they will take our goods, they will take... our impressions, photographs, all this will be posted on social networks, they still, look, they come and begin to admire the fact that belarus is turning out to be a very promising country, very clean, but all this is the most important thing: cleanliness, neatness, abundance, accessibility, peacefulness, safety, look, in fact, the whole world lives

by such marketing attraction, for example,

their media does not show the picture, then this picture is shown by people who from here are already trying to demonstrate this matter on social networks, they boast about what they were here, what they saw, that is, foreigners are boasting about our country, you see, you can’t think of anything better than to penetrate into the information space of another country, well, now it will begin , you know, they have already begun to sort through. if someone speaks well, returned from belarus, and to the so-called poland, it means that he is somehow not the same anymore, they begin completely there, god forbid, he is more or less some kind of public person, disembowel his biography, his beliefs there, and so on, what connects him with our country, because it is impossible, the case when this happens on a massive scale, it will be completely different information , she’s completely different, look, again,

these queues at the border, that is, we understand perfectly well that planes don’t fly from europe. uh-huh, yes, if you get here through istanbul, well , it’s really long, with cars to enter, checkpoints have been reduced to a minimum, the queues are wild, just like the lithuanians work poles, we also know, that is, on the one hand, we seem to be opening up, on the other hand, europe has introduced so many obstacles to enter here from the european side, you just have to try there, so they will say, so why , by the way, polish businessmen well, they begin to raise questions, they say, we don’t need your compensation... we don’t need it, we want to make money from belarus, and this can only be done if the border is opened, again, public diplomacy, the people’s self-government, which will demand from them the authorities, that is, it turns out to be a boomerang, they are torturing us so that we can have it, and we are creating a social mess for them, discontent

arises primarily there, so everything comes back as a ricochet relay. to the border, that’s right, and why is this, here are more elegant methods, here are repeaters, anton, in the border zone they put up billboards in polish, and a security check, some other way, they actually work, somehow there’s some feedback in general on how this was installed, and still is, at our checkpoint at in the lithuanian direction, a wonderful, in my opinion, shield in several languages ​​and that on the opposite side the same -

but here the idea was voiced that sooner or later we will come to the conclusion that the conflict will be resolved, and we will all live together just as we lived, peace to peace, friendship is chewing gum, in short, do you think in our lifetime this is possible, well, you know, after all, we must remain optimistic and believe in the best, but the worst always comes, so of course must be done to make it more...

china will strangle europe as a competitor, so

yes, attention from europe will be switched to the asia-pacific region, but this does not mean that the number of sanctions against sovereign states will decrease, well , that’s right, under trump so many sanctions were imposed on women, then in america it will be difficult to know what will be special. how she laughs, but in a panic, well, it’s a pity that the second second dialogue between the two presidents, this debate, yes, will not take place, because if in the first biden mentioned belarus, he was very worried about our existence, then here is trump, i think he still has to learn everything about our beautiful republic, yes, i think that we will still write, as they say, in the history of our relationship with western countries, but for now, unfortunately, today there is an escalation, it is still continues on our borders, this is evidenced first of all by walking.

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