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today we will talk about a topic that, in fact, is discussed in every family 2 weeks before the school year. school uniform, be it or not, who promises to make us wear it, should we do it? alena syrova, kirill kazakov are working with you in the studio, if you want. where you can read what we we write, including outside of broadcast time, hello, let's get started, well, basically, yes, if a few years ago, when the topic of uniforms was discussed on the eve of the school year...

which today, unfortunately, is not interpreted and read that way by various experts, yes, the ministry of education has repeatedly commented directly with local education authorities, the essence is as follows: 20 institutions, as you have already indicated, in the city of minsk, an experimental project with our belarusian light industry on the implementation one set for girls and boys of different ages, school uniforms of colors with... installed chevron, these are institutions of the city of minsk, differently called so experiment specific direct history, it is therefore interpreted, unambiguity, ambiguity, but the last thing that was stated in parent chats and officially commented by the minsk city committee committee that even if students come in business style clothes not in that capsule, not in that set, which is designated. they have the right to attend

institutions, i will explain why, because in our country everything, thank god, is regulated by legislation, school standards, in the twenty-second year the ministry of education at the board approved the fact that students of educational institutions should attend the educational process in business style clothes, there, by the way, it was not only about clothes, this is often forgotten, there was about piercing, about hairstyles, about appearance in general it was described, yes, that is, the president... in the twenty-first year at the pedagogical council then we clearly designated: school is a temple, and the corresponding approaches in discipline, in appearance should be for all participants, including for students, therefore nothing has changed, with the exception of this experiment, which is being carried out directly by the city of minsk, 20 institutions, here are about 20,000 students, the rest of the country is following the same path, the key is business style, appearance. student with

uniform elements for a particular educational institution, which are accepted by the school council or chevrons, badges, something such a badge. in case parents in one situation or another, we can also understand, situations are different, do not adhere to even the same dogma, but in business style clothes, then this is not a violation and not and not some kind of message in order to recognize the family in some provisions or convince the parent, the question.

the dacha will be looked at by those people who are directly involved in education, manage, make decisions on the ground, once again simply make sure that there is a clear understanding, and the way it should be arranged, the key is collegiality a decision that suits the parent

community, which is why it is collegial, if we said that this is the will of the head of the administration or the teaching staff, it would be a pedagogical council, which...

i would also like to emphasize that this trial project of minsk schools for the manufacturer is an additional volume, that is , there is mass production, mass serial production, which always includes a large model range of vests and jackets in collections for schoolchildren, blouses, respectively, trousers, and minsk schools by voting with parents, and accordingly, considering that we have 241 schools, so i think in minsk, and we...

criticism under some kind of such blow, probably, we still tried to cope with this with dignity, well, i know, as it was written, there are no designers, they make the same thing, that's why the form is mandatory, here i just quote from although for the vema it was an additional 37 pieces, additionally, only when parents had to explain at the points of sale about that and two models of trousers for girls, which are not quite the standard size for high school , neither one fits, i say, you know, you...

from memory 700 positions for girls and for boys together, that is, this is a question

of designers, the possibilities of those types that you can collect there, i mean images, not types, excuse me there for your child, and it is now posted and recommended to parents so that they can actually choose from there to navigate in school, maybe, and you know, maybe even this psychological moment works, yeah, experimentally, so it's possible. somewhere something special, elite, maybe some fabrics are different there, or maybe the price is completely different, cheaper, natalya vladimirovna, what do you say about this , this experimental clothing from the clothing that is generally sold every year, is different in some way, well, it's not different at all, because it's the same clothing, only the sewing model may be slightly different, the prices are different, the prices are from 15 rubles for a shirt to 100 rubles for a shirt, that is here everything also depends on the composition of the fabric and the size of the product itself, that's how the prices are not different. well, tell me, you know, here too , while collecting information, we came to the conclusion

that some parents, well, let's say in the regional centers, they say that it's clear that there is no such assortment as, for example, in tstsum-gum or here in our first national trading house in the regions, but in general this story, do you somehow observe it, that is, is there a choice, let's say chausy or let's say grodno, that's where there is enough of what there is in... minsk. i want to say that we conduct monitoring, this is the first thing. of course, first of all, we look at the market saturation with goods. if we really are in the regions, as you say, there may be a shortage of something, all our regions have already provided for traveling fairs, bazaars, so such events are always planned. all the information is posted on the websites, that is, the buyer can always see when he can visit or leave something, for example. if it is some very sparsely populated place, look at the fairs, yes regarding not only the uniform, but also

school supplies in general, i , for example, monitoring the history of different district centers, came to the conclusion that mothers tell you, don’t go to the fair, go to the store, at the fair it’s 2-3 rubles more expensive, plasticine, uniform, something else, that’s how much this story, well, again, alexey nikolaevich, it may not be this in minsk, but in the districts, i want to say that almost all school clothes... there the center, let’s say, yeah, uh, that’s their task in that regard, in advance, in advance, they

they know, uh, belstat gives official statistics for the city of minsk, children, how many first-graders are there, how many are in the middle class, older senior classes, and we can calculate regionally, we also form for the city of minsk, taking into account the newcomers, we form an application, so we worked with them, already starting in fact in november, december, the village councils, that is... consultation, that is, the beginning of winter - this was already a size selection, this is a model range, that is, for example, already in may, in may, i already have a full range presented all in white, the whole school, you understand, that is, it depends on the trade facility on the ground, how it prepared, now i also want to say, that means about fairs, at the fair we cannot according to the law, what to do, at your fair the price may be...

i repeat, belikprom, today they are more than ever, look, 70% is the minimum, it seems, yes, this is an update of the assortment, 70%, they did a good job, well done, and excuse me, i will add, that means, for example, i have in stock, if we take sewing products, and shoes, there are almost 869 models from memory, can you imagine what it is, that is, it means, not the same, it

is different in some way, it is different, of course, but this includes blouses for girls, shirts for... various jackets, bombers, i don't like this word, jacket, as you said, we had a jacket with an elastic band, yes, with an elastic band, blue, with buttons, everything was great, yes, so i will repeat once again that there is a huge assortment, choice, just come and buy, prices are regulated, plus, well, this is not advertising, i want to say, let's say, for example, this year we have increased the purchase of industrial goods specifically for the school year by 10% compared to last year, well , there are goods, and those who will help sell them, how are things? now in august, because the peak is coming, in addition, in addition to the staffing schedule of the section, almost 70 people include euro-experts, they work in the sections, we are now located this year not only on the third floor in the children's section, on the second floor for a teenager already 10-11 and for girls on the fourth floor, and all this is highlighted, here is valentina nikolaevna, brest region, tell us, well minsk is clear here, tsum,

the central university, then the central one, brest region, well, okay, we will again take the city of brest, well, conditional gantsevichi. that is, there will be trade according to schedules taking into account their interests, here are the recommendations or assortment and we will organize mobile trade, parents of schoolchildren turn to you with requests, what do they say? in general , the main trade department has not received any requests at all yet, we can conclude that in basically everything is fine, everything is good, well

, look, i 've been looking at my child for the last few years, that is, everyone basically wears vests. this is almost the most popular product, the most popular , yes, either blue or red, but blue is most often, everything else is a business style, this very business style, that is, we started with the fact that in minsk, roughly speaking , they came up with this capsule and everyone rushed to buy it, it seems like they came from the regions, that they sell this business style, what is it there you have it, it is different, as we understand, that belarus is the same for us, yes it is the same, it just depends on the school management, it’s just that each school probably has its own requirements. here it depends on the school principal, on the school council, what kind of uniform they have established, accepted, decided, and accordingly, they start choosing what to buy. elena lyanievna, here the editor suggests, i don’t know if it’s true or not, but you came in uniform. yes, that ’s right. that is, we have descended to the very level where these decisions are made. okay, you have children at school, and not only children. and children

at school in uniform. and not only children, well, not only, and not only children. well, first of all, a school uniform is not only beautiful, it is necessary, it is first of all an image institution, and of course, when you work for an image institution, you are proud of your institution, and even when i just started working as a manager in 1917, we had already begun to introduce elements that would distinguish our institutions from others, these were ties and we went through this path quite difficultly, because what is needed...

the decision is collegial and accordingly, when we chose certain elements that will be present without fail, that is, as a capsule collection, it was a blue vest, and we determined that it would be polesie. when we chose an element, another additional one, it was a tie, which we order on panda, but in addition, our guys have their own vision, and we should not

violate it and should not conflict with our guys, therefore, parents cannot pierce ears, but nevertheless, it is quite wide the assortment is presented in the retail trade, and accordingly they can already choose for themselves what they like, a certain one, almost does not correspond, well , conventionally speaking, we determine the color scheme, that is, and then, because someone can go to school in heavy luxury, you understand, yes, then, then the whole point is kind of lost, because, including school uniforms there in soviet times i certainly did not wear, but i read, it was of a certain quality from a certain fabric, that is, in this too there was the point is in quality, its own conditions. requires quality, now a vest can be made of artificial material, or it can be made of cashmere, the difference of course will be model features, here are these

features, we know very well that if you buy, say, heavy luxury or some kind of budget not very budget, but in a store where there is a mass market, yes , these are different things, what is the school uniform now, what you embroider i want to say, firstly, the concept of a school uniform, we have no regulations for this. which year 3 years in a row the last between schools, manufacturers and parents really show the child a beautiful business taste, this is an office, it should be elegant unpainted hair, another

thing, i want to say a few words about quality, that when i was studying, well already there at the end there is the tenth-eleventh grade, we also tried to introduce gymnasiums then these vests in school, and i remember exactly what they said about the fact that we unanimously order these ... our parents generally had complaints about the quality, i don’t know, then they changed it or not changed the place where they bought and sewed, but at the same time, if these are clothes that are worn every day, if these are clothes that, as we say, should discipline, that should make you feel some kind of composure, and also a readiness to absorb knowledge, then it should be of a certain quality, and of course. we understand that things made from, so to speak, unnatural materials can be cheaper, but more durable, can be more durable, but for example, not

suitable for other parameters, everyone has different priorities, someone for beauty and unnaturalness, someone for naturalness, but you can sacrifice the model somewhere, like they solve this issue on kalinka? well, look, i'll tell you, we 've been doing business-style school clothes for 20 years now, and that's why, probably, in all years always from the manufacturer.

25 should be presented in september of this year, so that people of the next year would say that we really are preparing a specific schedule in january, they are one of the best in this school, but they often return, come and return, the problem is sometimes on the trading object can arise in what plan, here is a capsule now in the form we will return, we still forget with you that many of our children they are of non-standard form and what we have assembled, right?

well, that's how often this happens , that is, we understand that when, let's say so, there is no choice from something, or some school, well , decided to show off, in russian, yes, to make for itself that there are still several schools that order the same model every year, this is a vest checkered- skirt, that is, in principle, well, personally for us. as for the manufacturer, my other colleagues, i know that they dress the whole school right from the turnkey, this is of course not for a large serial manufacturer, probably for a smaller type, because here it is more difficult to satisfy all these different types of figures, here you need to remake, here you need to measure, children grow, you measure a child in april, in august he can sell, here is the same question, often, for example,

schools come in advance and know that here ... minsk pre-orders, they gave us a size scale, there are not many of them, somewhere there about seven, i think, three schools, but nevertheless they come to us purposefully. first, we select the sizes of rostovochnu, so that like this, second, we have free fitting, but for all schoolchildren. third, that is, what concerns, i repeat once again, this is service, and we satisfy the need, what they want, we directly agree with the manufacturer, let's say that this is called a pre-order, this is very good, this is additional income, retail, when you have worked with the school, they passed it on to you, and you do not count, maybe, that these parents will come to you, but they are coming to you, tell me, we have an open market, right, russian marketplaces work,

for example, we have markets, they are not... closed, and school uniforms can be sold there, of course, sometimes march checks , among other things, well, it says that something does not correspond, in general, this story is before september 1, it is increasing for you, you check school uniforms more often, well, or, for example, school supplies, from august 1 we started large-scale monitoring, we are checking now really very widely throughout the republic, but these are monitorings, if we see violations somewhere, we do

behind the line on issues of organizing the school process from september 1, our specialists also visit regional centers, look, well, there more in principle for availability, and what you are asking questions about, i understand that you wanted to hear, what has already been said, we have established standards for children's clothing, that is, the quality is established for the zone, actually countries, which are located in evzs, import and quality , everything else here is looked at by the state standard

, respectively, and also such... those who hear incorrectly locally , there are more worries and concerns among parents, among schoolchildren, because everything that colleagues say, here on our program, confirms the thesis that the right to determine whether to order from kalinka in a cage for themselves or to go the way of a blue set, or to buy separately, that is, everything that colleagues said, i just listened carefully, yes speaks precisely about pluralism defined in this, that is, not everything is so totalitarian. this

is essentially, today we are talking about school uniforms, do we need to wear them or? do we need to, it turns out that we need to, the most important thing is that each school can have a different one, i am making a small entry like this, you know that in principle a lot of fashion collections come from school or student uniforms, for example, the american ivy league, yes or when we talk about the fact that school uniforms in the west, we have lived for 30 years with the fact that the west has the best, so when you start looking, for example, and you come to the conclusion that english private schools are expensive, they most often wear a uniform, everyone is obliged to wear it, so that's just it...

people in other schools, thank god, are the elite - these are all those who work within the legal framework, that is, they work, and that's all, all our people, this is the elite, so our parents, of course, should understand this, but many parents, today's you also talked here about the fact that some support, some do not, this is unfortunately, let's say, an echo of the nineties, parents nineties, here are the parents of the nineties, they, unfortunately, were brought up in different conditions at that time, for them there is no such example, and this materialism that we are talking about, when there is a competition there

for sneakers, the question arises, to what extent is the uniform available to younger children now, alexey nikolaevich, in fact, this is expensive, inexpensive, because you know, as many say, and what should i buy a uniform, my child wears jeans and t-shirts and now i bought him five turtlenecks, for him for every day, the child

classes within 300 rubles you can wear pretty good fashionable clothes, i will repeat again, our white this year like never before, such collections in general, that is, all sorts of accessories such additions, this story a year ago was also very much disseminated about the fact that teachers will now have a uniform, no, well here is the same message, let's

say so, we are moving away from the concept of a school uniform, well, it is customary to use it in everyday life and we say business style, we said, if we have elements of a school uniform within the framework of a business style for students, it is recommended and the teacher. the management of the institution should look at the neat, accordingly businesslike classical appearance of their teachers, fortunately there are manufacturers for adults in sufficient quantities belarusian and for schoolchildren. i would like to note that it still turned out that way with us, that we still have a pedagogical mentality, it developed in such a way, still from the soviet school, passed to the modern belarusian, that the teachers look accordingly, and the younger generation, it has not swayed here in the direction of precisely this discord in appearance, they still take care of themselves more, suits were present, so i came to the school bench to teach in 2004, the teaching staff of a large school in the city of lida. it corresponded to its appearance, maybe there were no men, but everyone wore

suits, there were a sufficient number of teachers, women too, any educational institution, well, in particular, elena leonidna made a decision yes that teachers should also adhere to a certain appearance, you have clothes for teachers - this is a pantsuit, as we see, we made this decision collegially with colleagues, and of course here we were guided not only by what we like, yes, we came to a single model, commentn we really liked this given model range, but someone likes the pants style, someone likes a skirt, someone a vest, we also relied primarily on how widely this model is presented, so that our teachers could implement it, so that they did not sew to order, yes, yes, they had the opportunity to buy it in a retail network, in addition, someone has different opportunities, someone can buy the whole model range,

policemen or military men receive uniforms, when you as a teacher come, you can buy trousers, a shirt, or you have trousers, a shirt left, you come, he tells you: no, we have a completely different style, of course, where to find this money, really, well, they can prove themselves here, that's good, the question.

here you are completely right, right now we are thinking about this issue, because we have a single element, a tie, on it is placed symbols of an educational institution, but since my educational institution opened only last academic year and accordingly we are kids in this direction, we have now matured the idea that there should be a distinctive badge of our institution, which will be worn by teachers and excellent students, well, well, this is excellent. and i also have such a question from practice, as they say, well, you say,

yes - a certain color, certainly beautiful, so beautiful to your eyes, you can just go crazy, you can in a masculine way, i'm not very i understand, it's turquoise, well yes, at the moment it's certainly a relevant shade, in 3 years, fashion may change, perhaps enterprises will stop buying fabric in this color, what to do? well, by the way, we had this question when we were choosing elements... for children, accordingly, here we also analyzed a knitted vest, is it woolen or is it cotton, we considered an enterprise that has the manufacture of this model in different directions, exactly so, of course, we are a little scared that we we chose this particular color, unusual, but now i think our belarusian production is widely represented, if komentern can't sew, we can really use the services of marketplaces or even buy fabric.

92% are black and blue, and in general , according to statistics for the last 5 years , 70% of what is sold in the junior school group is blue, less than 30% is black, in the senior teenage group it is of course black, because it is really fashionable today, it is classic today, and firstly, even here vests and jackets today sizes, they are forty

-six-forty-four, but they come, for example, to the tsum in the children's section, and some thin woman will be lucky, she will buy in the children's section. which graduated last year and we were always in uniform, yes, they always had ties depending on the chosen direction, well, they studied in the face, there they had the chemistry direction they had one color, pizmat they had a different color of tie, so i went to the program, asked the eldest daughter, well, well, well, you wore a uniform, well

your impression, of course it is necessary, of course it disciplines, and mom we now remember not only the educational institution, but also the uniform with nostalgia. lyceum, and another thing, junior school, for example, in junior school we also had a uniform in elementary school, yeah, we just talk about the fact that yes, a school uniform, it also instills a sense of style, a sense of neatness, a sense that at least this uniform needs to be looked after, well, that is, in my own way i try to find logic in this when we talk about that, that the uniform was in soviet times, how many sets were issued, one, not issued , bought.

that if the child is not allowed for health reasons or there are some restrictions in the unit, then there may be exceptions, yours, why, well, that is

, the parent must justify in a civilized manner, as we all must justify to each other, uh, to the class teacher, the school administration, and i am sure there will be no conflict, but here we are talking about preventing this from becoming a vicious practice and if you are not happy with it from the point of view of color, why are you not happy the color scheme is not yellow or purple, right? how many parents, so many opinions, some want a white shirt, others want a light blue shirt. 40-20 parents, why don't we

do, let's say, or prescribe , so that, let's say, well, they define, for example, there are several models, there are several color schemes, and so that there are distinctive signs, what kiri said, let's say.

there will be facts, contributed to these facts including the mess regarding the form, then of course we will accept the toughest worlds, because this is a state institution,

if some parent does not agree or is against it, well, that's his problem.

quite directly, but you certainly can't suspect alexander grigorievich of saying one thing and implying something else, the same goes for the vertical, when the ministry of education says that we are not going to introduce a single school uniform, if we were going to do that, you would already know about it, the ministry of education did not force any of the institutions of minsk, minsk region, brest, grodno and so on to introduce a single uniform, we are now talking about... in that this is advisory in nature, if anyone is interested, they can google what the word advisory means, then the initiative of local leaders and private opinion, that very human factor, i am sure that if people go to our respected deputies , uh, in a friendly friendly line, they will ask: please come out with an initiative and let us still persuade the ministry

of education to return to the soviet school uniform, then the question is...

here we also have this moment, we are simply here and we are conducting the program in sneakers, yes, he told me always says like you're wearing sneakers and i'm like you can't wear sneakers to school so sneakers are allowed this moment this is the most exciting question that parents and teenagers ask and here we lose to them of course sneakers are allowed but sneakers to yours.

i would explain, it matches today and there is a certain set of the collection, which actually does not violate, it is harmonious and does not distract with garishness or some other disa, by the way, another very important topic, it may not concern the form, but concerns school, which we also have to talk about, while we are not talking about passing laws, constantly talking about this about phones in school, because in elite western schools and eastern schools, it means that children are forbidden to use

a phone in school, and today we have forbidden this very thing.

what meaning do modern painters put into their works, and so that all this is not in vain, so that this...

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