hello, this is the program "sas is authorized to declare". my host is nadezhda sas, i welcome you and remind you that this is a program for those who want to better understand what is happening and understand how these processes, events, people will affect the life of the country of each of us. the topic of today's program is why the west lost the sanctions war, we will discuss this in more detail immediately after the digest of key events in world politics this week. president of belarus. alexander

lukashenko met with premier of the state council of the people's republic of china letyan on august 22, who visited minsk on an official two-day visit. the belarusian leader noted that the documents that were signed between the countries are of fundamental importance. one of them can definitely be called historic, this is an agreement on the creation of a free trade zone for services and investment. belarus is the first country in the eurasian economic union with which china is concluding such an agreement, the president noted. it is expected that in the next 5 years, the export of belarusian services to china will grow by at least 12-15%, and investments in belarus by at least 30%. during the official visit, prime minister of belarus roman golovchenko and premier of the state council of china lixiang held talks in a narrow format. the parties made a statement on strengthening cooperation in several sectors, trade, security, energy and finance. china and belarus will also strengthen cooperation in industrial supply chains and will continue to strengthen trade facilitation to reduce costs for both sides. belarus intends to deepen cooperation with the greater gulf. bundun

the hong kong-macau metropolis encompasses nine cities, including guangzhou, shenzhen and zhuhai. during his visit to minsk, li said that china-belarus relations have remained vibrant over the past 32 years despite the changing international landscape. u.s. vice president kamala harris has formally accepted the nomination as the democratic presidential candidate . harris has defended ukraine and nato, criticizing republican candidate donald trump's previous comments on the war in ukraine. according to the vice president, she warned kiev about the beginning of the conflict 5 days before the fighting began, and also helped shape the us diplomatic response to russia's military operation in ukraine. in june, on the sidelines of a peace conference in switzerland, hari said that washington was supporting kiev not for the sake of charity, but to preserve a world order that was beneficial to itself. republican candidate donald trump has repeatedly spoken out about the need to limit support for ukraine. in august, he also said that one of the main reasons for the beginning of the conflict in the country was the

were public statements by us president joe biden that kiev could join nato. indian prime minister narendro modi arrived in kiev. the official visit lasted one day, during which modi held talks with volodymyr zelensky. as friends and partners, we hope for the speedy restoration of peace and stability in the region, the indian prime minister noted. according to him, he continued previous conversations with zelensky and also exchanged views on a peaceful settlement of the conflict. at the same time. according to modi, he heard the position russian president and his positive views. in february 432 bc, the athenian assembly approved the so -called megarian psyphisms. a native of the city of megara was allowed to trade in

the markets of athens, and their ships were allowed to enter the ports of the athenian maritime union. in fact , a blockade of megara was established. the city's residents had no choice but to complain to the athenians' spartan rival. thus, the long pylapanesian war began because of the first known economic sanctions in history, devastating all of ancient greece. today, our the program is also about sanctions, it is also about war, about how moscow, minsk psyfisms of the west harm the world economy. and the west itself. i am glad to welcome, in our studio is inna aleksandrovna vitrenko, doctor of political science, professor, head of the department of social technologies, ran hicks from the russian federation. hello, hello. i am glad to welcome in our studio georgy vasilyevich grits, candidate of economic sciences, professor. hello, good afternoon. and alexander dudchak, economist, joins our broadcast via skype, leading researcher at the institute of cis countries, phd in economics. greetings, alexander.

they set these sanctions, they are losing in this battle and the goals that have not been partially achieved, why partially, because the damage from them is primarily inflicted on european countries, it is impossible to call this an unfortunate development of events for the united states, but this... but you can tell the story there in 1548, when sanctions were introduced against ivan the terrible, who hired specialists abroad, but they did not arrive because of the sanctions imposed there by one of

the baltic orders, so in this regard we are winning in this situation, yes, we unexpectedly received, one might say, for them the opposite effect to what we expected and...

the rest, well, the satellites, i don’t know what to call the other states correctly, which, unfortunately, for the sake of the same united states of america, forget about their exclusively internal sovereign interests, now i would like to draw attention to the chronology of the introduction of sanctions by the european union against belarus, georgy vasilyevich,

the list is colossal, and we selectively 14 package, yes, in my opinion, yes, we selectively took exactly those points in our opinion the most. march 9 , 2022, the eu council approved a new package of sanctions against the financial sector of belarus, among them disconnected. independent organization, that we see internet restrictions, we see the rupture of all

the wto status and so on like that, that is , so to speak, there is nothing to even talk about, but i would note only one sanction, which speaks of the anecdotal nature and lack of understanding of the collective west in general, well, so to speak, where to go next, this is the latest, in my opinion, decision to ban the supply of second-hand goods to belarus, that is, they have the impression in their heads that we...

full-fledged packages. are being taken against some state, against russia there were 14

germany, france, italy, they can write a request to the government of the russian federation, we have applied sanctions against you, we have suffered losses, please compensate us for this, they have such a right, but this is of course very funny, so i agree with the press secretary that there is no logic here, and moreover , there can be no justice.

the restriction of the company's access was called one of the goals of the sanctions pressure of the west of russia and belarus to innovative technologies in order to complicate their technical modernization, it is impossible to deny that in the west there are many developments of inventions that were important for the extraction of minerals at great depths, for the creation of ... which we are still experiencing now, and it will have consequences for the restoration

of our own technical, production bases, including the engineering base, in terms of developments, which will lead to a complete elimination of dependence on the west, yes, because we know that, for example, the equipment of the schlemberger company, it continues to flow into russia, there were publications in the us about this, that oh... what can we do, but in fact the americans are not really trying to block their own trade with russia, they first of all want the european union to stop trading with russia, selling us primarily high... some products, not to mention already about the production of various industrial equipment. let's say frankly that one of the goals was to inflict maximum damage on european, especially german industry. the sanctions were directed not only and not so much against russia and belarus, initially, well, and if we talk about the period from 22 to 24, then how much

were they aimed against the european union in general, since the competitiveness of the american industry has been declining for a long time. now they report that they have not had any since 2008 labor productivity in industry has grown and in general it is hard, they have 132,000 people laid off in the high-tech sector this year alone, which means they need to break their ally faster so that their own positions are stronger and use its market to support their own industry, especially high-tech, therefore, destroying the industry of europe is one of the goals of the sanctions... policy of the west, it is being achieved, that is, it works out, here they are, they create problems for us, we are these we solve problems, we develop, we move forward, well, who, who completely, so to speak, succumbs to the pressure of sanctions, who they hit most effectively, this is germany, these are other european countries, they are deprived of their competitive advantages, in particular , consisting in the supply of energy resources from

russia, but you and i understand this, but do the representatives of european?

over national european authorities, the european council, the european commission and so on, which are represented by people like ursula fondrian, as the head of the so-called diplomacy of the european barrel, they do not work out the interests of the peoples of european countries, after the second world war for many decades, after liberation from the nazi occupation, these countries were occupied by the united states, the occupation is still ongoing, over the decades these so-called...

stream were grown, but the lack of understanding that more than 50% of the shares - it was actually german, so to speak, and european banks financed, being the owners, that is, they even

within themselves no longer give an account of that policy, which they preach, so to speak, that is , in fact, they are all fighting with each other, that is, this is not normal, simply not normal, i will also add that the policy of sanctions is intended to evoke a kind of pavlov's dog reflex in international life, sanctions are often aimed at weakening. the enemy in the event of noticeable tension or a long dispute, they also often hide economic problems behind the assertion of great principles, and, finally, they seek to punish for what is considered a violation of international order, in the absence of consensus on more radical measures, the targets are usually major players in the international system who cannot be directly challenged in other ways, such as russia, china, iran, and currently the republic of belarus, but due to the split in the international community, sanctions are increasingly common.

to continue a career, that is, it is a kind of blackmail, after all, in many areas of modern science it is simply impossible to work seriously without participating in scientific exchange of information, with foreign colleagues, and belarus and russia in this regard are being artificially isolated and we find a lot of evidence, here are the possible solutions, maybe using interaction with friendly countries, like china, to include scientists in their programs of cooperation with the western scientific community, it is difficult to judge what is happening in belarus with the academic system, but in russia everything is very bad with it, not good because it is bureaucratized, young people simply

cannot do normal... well, how can i say, this is generally a money matter, and as for the other areas, well, the technical areas are probably much better there, the exact sciences, engineering, it is in good condition compared to the humanities, but in general there are a lot of steps, a lot of bureaucracy, extremely bureaucratic reporting, so it is very difficult to lure...

this is a social and humanitarian profile, my postgraduate recently defended his thesis, defenses are now taking place in various councils, internal and vak, there is such a right, defenses are effective, over the past 5 years we have reached the level protection increased by 27%, the system is far from bureaucratic, moreover, academic ties with other countries have been established, my department has been conducting a project with the people's republic of china for 5 years, we are studying

together. the social credit system, how it affects chinese society, how it is perceived in general in world science, so here is the feeling that my colleague is stuck somewhere 30, i see your smile, you need to speak responsibly, that is, you can't just take and tell the most perfect fairy tales, the most perfect fairy tales, everything is so bureaucratized, the bureaucracy itself is academic, you are probably its representative , that is why you are making excuses, i confirm the reality.

and even the usa, this is hushed up, the role of the state in the market economy is hushed up, probably in russia, it is not my business to advise, but it seems to me that this issue is ripe today.

the fact that ukraine is not ready for peace, alexander lukashenko also stated the other day, the reason was an incident in our airspace. why ukraine needs this, i do not understand, we clearly defined ourselves with them and brought this to their attention information that any provocations will not go unanswered. we are closely monitoring the situation and are ready to respond to any changes. stop provoking us. pull our pigtails and check the possible reaction, it is worth reminding our neighbors that the red line begins where the border of one state ends and ours, belarus, begins. ksenia lebedeva's authorial view on the policy of double

standards in the project is different. watch on the belarus24 tv channel. let me remind you that the program sas is authorized is on air to declare. we continue our heated discussion, i am grateful to the participants of today's program for their activity for the discussion points, because the truth is born in them. vasily georgievich, do you disagree with how european society reacts to the sanctions policy, from which it itself is already suffering? absolutely, i must say honestly that we have an incorrect, widespread incorrect idea of ​​the mood. europeans, but how they are set up, that's not so, not so long ago the mass protests of farmers in france showed, when on agricultural exhibition, farmers broke through to macron and began to express all their complaints about the dire situation, then they, in response to his

reproaches, said, we are not against ukraine, we are not against ukraine, we are not for russia in general , that is, they still, in their majority, perceive russia as prey, and belarus too, as something that will solve their problems, i am talking about the unconscious level of the european average person, i know that many finns are so inclined, just like that, at the click of a button , there will be no protests against nato, although they must be, society quietly swallowed finland's entry into nato, a society of supposedly pacifists, the same thing happened in sweden, so what we must understand in this situation is that the peoples still bear, firstly, they bear responsibility, that is, the european peoples bear responsibility for what they allowed, it was accepted to think that the people are never responsible for anything, because... of course it remains, but no one removes responsibility from the european peoples for what they allowed, they must fight against the united states, drive them out, because the united states is destroying their economy, depriving them of their

future, and the united states is the beneficiary of the sanctions war, another thing is that the united states, their digestive system is destroyed, they have already decomposed themselves with their financial policy, so this is what they get in the form of murder and ... european industry does not create an economic boom there, but still joe biden constantly emphasized that economic growth in the united states, the relative stability, even prosperity there, as he imagined it, is the result of... his policy, and we know that this policy is paid for by the reduction of industry in germany in other countries, the reduction of jobs there and the destruction of the middle class there, which and this process actually horrifies those who left belarus or russia to look at the wonders of western civilization, they are generally unhappy with what they see, because it does not look like a fairy tale, it does not look like a blooming garden at all, that's what happens, i don't want it, but at least it causes some special smile, hidden joy. but because it seems to me that justice has prevailed

. i would also like to discuss in more detail a difficult issue, because a separate big problem is air traffic. we can puff out our cheeks as much as we like, say that everything is great, but from my personal experience, from talking to belarusian and russian acquaintances, i can say that the narrowing of the road to europe to a narrow istanbul window, few people consider convenient, and someone likes it because of turbopatriots or no, but many in the west have business, real estate, relatives.

to digitize the situation with sanctions, which we have already talked about here for the most part, i will give a few examples, well, i will start with specific countries germany, for the first half of the year 0.1%. the european union - 0.7%, this is only in the plans for the twenty-fourth year, in fact, so far 0.3, the usa declared 2.5, so far for the half-year there is a vroyo we have a table that we have prepared, a forecast of changes.

european business representatives, american business representatives, whose departure even this year they tried to restrict, who come to the pmf in order to conclude such private partnership relations and agreements with russian business,

it is called the voice of the global south, and india held a fairly large forum, there was even such an event, it seems to me, extraordinary, the right to participate in this voice, with a speech was given to the european country alexander grigorech lukashenko, the leader of the republic of belarus, but the question is not even this, the question. india today has become a leader, the economy, they today must understand that, so to speak, the leading, speaker of the g7, in september

this g7 forum will take place, and there will be an agenda to hear the voice of the south, that is , today it is not easy.

in the state equation, than the stability of individual sections of the front? well, probably, because the russian economy is growing and growing quite dynamically, despite the high rate of the bank of russia, and here such a factor as capital, accumulated capital is included, that is, if a business has its own money, it does not need borrowed money, borrowed money is the last refuge of medium and small capital, and large businesses that are developing significant volumes of production, they don't need it, they have huge... funds , including off-shore ones, the president's task is to return this money, if we talk about sustainability. the second very important point of what is happening is that the growth of the russian economy, in general the development of the economies of the brics countries is happening with a weak role of the west, that is, these are not carriages that follow the western locomotive, when the rise in

the american economy launches the rise of the world economy, the situation is in fact standard for the period from 1880 to 2008. in particular for india, in particular for russia, this does not relieve them of various accumulated problems, as china has accumulated quite a few problems, but it gives opportunities to grow, to understand these mechanisms, it is still very difficult, because the situation is truly unique, yeah, yes, you know, i agree with you, it seems that when after 2.5 years of the tragedy of ukraine, the russian federation, because the republic of belarus, this is our internal struggle, unfortunately, our brothers, western partners, have become very skillful manipulated and played such a shameless game of chess, but in the end, when

you look at point a point b, where we arrived and how dynamically we approached the construction of a multipolar world, well , probably this whole incredible game could only have been invented, because the goal has been achieved and the multipolar world exists and we live in it, i think 10 years ago it was still difficult to predict that this is how it would be... china, india, although there are problems with secondary stations, there are problems with calculations, but it can all be solved, in this regard, unfortunately, we have what a colleague in the studio...

main income. of course, everything that, so to speak, is related income, and does not happen in the world in relation to oil and gas quotes, yes, this affects russia, because we really have large resources, we depend on this, there is no need to be disingenuous here, but the fact that we already began to understand somewhere around april, may june of the twenty-third year what to do with this, this is obvious on this graph, yes, we had a surge in october, then

a decline in january, in general, with regard to january, this month is always associated with a decline in terms of income from the oil and gas complex, and now it is holding at a certain level, so i think that now the management system of the oil and gas sector has been restructured, here colleagues complain about the increase in the key rate of the central bank, yes , of course... russian gas through pipelines, supplies were not completely stopped, they continue to go in transit through ukraine, through the territory,

which three large pipelines have been laid and it really cannot be disputed.

that it does not exist, and by eliminating it, this path of counter-reforms, it is inseparable from the path of the era, without masking this heritage, telling, industrial development, because pay attention that the main thing we now need is technically competent personnel, these are both technicians and engineers. we have quite a lot of accountants, we have a lot of economists, sociologists, lawyers, we do not have enough people who have specific knowledge that can be applied in material production. i am talking here about russia and about the union state as a whole, because this is a very serious problem, it cannot be solved without pulling the lapdog out of ourselves, the lapdog needs to be pulled out from within the russian academic system, destroyed, so that there is no more lapdog there, not

sitting there, not just renamed, but removed and further... further improve the quality of secondary education even more, and we will get, we will close this main problem, because we have two serious problems in growth, these are personnel, and this is expensive real estate, i think the union state is on the right track, georgy vasilyevich, please, well everything is said very correctly, the world is really changing, there are really trends, but i would like to warn a little or caution against excessive optimism, that is, today, if we talk about the union state, the share in the world economy is in the region of... 2-3%, that is, this is about 3 trillion us dollars, that is, from the point of view of the gross indicator, we cannot influence the processes. from the point of view of innovation, yes, this is a trend again, yes, today we talk a lot about technological sovereignty, but in reality, technological sovereignty today is on the side of the western world and china. china today spends trillions of dollars on this sovereignty. therefore, today we need to talk about

consolidation, unification, the formation of a single agenda. and a union state within the sco, brics, here in the global south, and this is probably a challenge, well, for all authorities and for business as well. thank you, alexander dutchak, yes, yes, i think we need to develop relations within the sco, brics, with our partners, to build our sovereign policy, to get rid of, as was said, the legacy of the past, we need mobilization, mobilization in the brain. on behalf of the union state , i would like to say to the west and the united states of america, you will not live to see it. i am grateful to all the participants of today's heated discussion, i was delighted, i hope that our esteemed viewer is also pleased. at the beginning of our program, i mentioned the first sanctions known from history, the migarian psiphisms. ancient authors claimed that the ruler of athens

pericalus achieved their acceptance under the influence of his beloved hetaera. salvation, who had personal scores to settle with the inhabitants of the city of megara. and the first famous woman, the creator of an intellectual secular salon, which was visited by both socrates and herodotus, was accused by her contemporaries of many things, including the sanctions that gave rise to the war. well, let's see who will be accused of the current sanctions war after some time, but given the morals in the west , it is unlikely to be the love of a strong charismatic man for a beautiful woman. thank you, it was the program "saz authorized to declare, see you". in a week. europe is the main victim of western sanctions against the union state.

what meaning do modern canon painters put into their work? so that it would not all be in vain, so that it would help people to pray, so that it would help them to repent, to become church-goers. how is teaching conducted in sunday schools today? one spiritual lesson, the law of god, one creativity lesson, one music lesson, and for the older ones, that is, adults, there are already lectures on subjects, well, so to speak, more serious preparation.

what is mercy? this is probably the food that we ourselves will always need, and this is the food of god, which is born in the heart of a compassionate soul. what unique shrines are kept in belarusian churches? here we have the holy relics of the martyr vanefaty of rome, and vanefaty is the patron helper of such a sin, which many, many people encounter, this is the sin of drinking wine, this particle of relics, which came to us just from greece, the answers to these and other questions in spiritual and educational projects on tv channel belarus 24. i am often asked: where do the cossacks in belarus come from? the belarusian cossacks are still a phenomenon, even if something had touched them, i

think the cossacks would have joined the people's militia. with what heart do you watch these persecutions of the orthodox church in ukraine? the cossacks are the knights of orthodoxy, god is on our side, he always helps orthodox people. and in real life, does otaman wave a saber? otaman said na... then the cossacks must line up until the last day, but we still haven't asked which cossacks you will be from? i found his great-grandfather among the tsaritsyn cossacks, the common thing is the orthodox faith, which unites all the cossacks and the commandments, which the cossacks also observe. hello, the program say don't be silent is on the air, in the studio svetlana smolonskaya and victoria popova. and today we have as guests, and there.